@@andrewpica2473 Great question! Here are the pouches I'm running... www.amazon.com/Livans-Tactical-Drastring-Adjustable-Paintball/dp/B07Y7CN2QL/ref=sxin_9_pa_sp_search_thematic_sspa?cv_ct_cx=dump+pouch&dchild=1&keywords=dump+pouch&pd_rd_i=B07Y7CN2QL&pd_rd_r=589bc757-beb5-4734-b4f9-c2aaaed5b1d8&pd_rd_w=0uv9Q&pd_rd_wg=XIpt3&pf_rd_p=9d5c7dec-ad7e-424f-9792-7751bf0f49a3&pf_rd_r=9F0EA18KBF2QYCEBAHEZ&qid=1619327539&sr=1-3-a73d1c8c-2fd2-4f19-aa41-2df022bcb241-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzMklETTNRV1hEODNSJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMjU1MTIzM0VBWkM4SlQyRFFMUyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUExMDIxMDE2VzhYNTVWSDhST1Amd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9zZWFyY2hfdGhlbWF0aWMmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl
@@vwjti18t Sorry, Andy! I'll take a look at it and put the link back up. I've added the link to my recent saddle review video's and must've messed it up! 👍🏽
You may be one of the most thorough and quality reviewers on TH-cam. Seriously, the amount of time, money, and thought that you put into this is outstanding. It is extraordinary that you would buy and sit in 5 different saddles in full hunting gear for an hour each. Thank you very much!
Dustin, I just want to say thank you for leaving such a supportive comment! I really appreciate that very much! I love doing product reviews and try to think of everything that someone would want to know about a product and then touch on it. The Ultimate Saddle Review was born out of my personal desire to find the ONE saddle that I loved most so that I could pass along the information to all the new guys entering the movement. Thank you again for the support- it is appreciated! I have three other saddle/sling reviews on my channel and in two of those videos I'm giving away a free saddle and sling (one per video).
I appreciate the way you presented all of the different saddles. Your video has greatly helped me make a decision on which one I want to purchase. Even your sound track music wasn't overbearing. I've seen more than one video that needed to drop the sound track music, but not this one. As it turns out, I purchased the H2 Tree Saddle, based off of your video presentation. I've been bow hunting since '77 and have used every method imaginable for hunting from a tree. This hunting method will give me options that didn't exist with climbers or hang-on stands. Thanks, again!
Thank you for the feedback, outdoorguy57! I truly appreciate it and I'm glad the video was helpful! The H2 is a great saddle and I know you'll enjoy it!
Thank you very much for the feedback, Jeff! I greatly appreciate it and hope you find the saddle you're looking for! Feel free to check out some of my other saddle reviews to see other/newer models out on the market. Take care!
Made a homemade Saddle last year because I too was not ready to commit to purchasing a Manufactured saddle. Thank you for spending your hard earned cash and spending your time to do this review I will be buying the H2 based off of your Review and will be using it for they 2021 to 2022 hunting season.
That's awesome, Tyler! I made my own DIY Sitdrag for my first saddle because I didn't want to commit either (until I had all the information). That's exactly why I put together that video. I'm glad it was helpful! The H2 is a great saddle and I hope you enjoy it! Thank you for the feedback and good luck to you moving forward!
I am new to the saddle hunting world and am ready to make a change. I bow hunt the Mississippi Valley in SW Wisconsin which is majority hill and bluff country. I have been doing a ton of research and have all the saddles tested on my radar. This video helps a ton with questions that wouldn’t be easily answered by a website. I would be interested to connect on one of the saddles.
A great in depth and honest review. For someone looking to get into saddle hunting and who lives in another country,Australia. It has greatly helped me in my quest to get into this style of hunting. I have also just signed up to the saddle hunting forum as well, hoping for more great tips from everyone on there. Many thanks for your time and effort MADHUNTS. I’ll be looking at the H2
Thank you, Adam! I really appreciate that and am super glad to help! Welcome to saddle hunting! ...and to the forum! I also posted a few other videos (with free drawing to win a saddle/sling) that you should check out: th-cam.com/video/VL5rNK3K_ss/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/6wwl-B4L9lg/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/moADh85AjwQ/w-d-xo.html
G’day. Yes when I subscribed to your channel and went through a lot of your previous videos. I saw the one about the sling harness. I put my hand up to be in the draw. Cheers
The best review of hunting saddle that I have found. Looking to buy my first hunting saddle and I really appreciate all of your time, effort and honest review. Thanks
Fisher Hawk, I really appreciate the feedback and I'm glad the review was helpful! I hope you find the right saddle for you and that you have a great season!
Thank you for the feedback, The Kernal03! I'm really glad the video was helpful! If you have ANY questions at all feel free to reach out! You can email me as well! Take care!
Have you seen the XOP hybrid saddle? Full package with platform is $200 plus state tax. Curious on your thoughts on it. Main differences would be shoulder straps, no belt, and integrated safety tree stand harness with a phantom like saddle.
Thanks for the comment, Christopher! I appreciate you reaching out. I'm hoping to do a review on the Renegade but we'll see if it pans out. Stay tuned!
This was a phenomenal review. The effort and time that went into it was great. I wish I would have watched it when it first came out. I’ve ordered a cruzr, but I may order an as H2 backup, they are on a 10 week backlog. it was nice to see a methodical, metric based approach to a review. Most “reviews” are pro staffers or company owners buddies, etc highlighting the features of the product they are pumping.
That's awesome, Ty Bo! Welcome to saddle hunting! Ordering the right saddle for you is exactly what it's about. 👍🏼 Email anytime if you have any questions.
This easy the first video I’ve seen from you and I’m impressed. As a new hunter this was very informative and I wanted to say thank you. You have given me a direction to start my research
Thank you so much, Austin! I really appreciate the feedback and I'm glad to help! If you have any questions about saddle hunting don't hesitate to ask!
I just started my own TH-cam channel a few months ago. I really enjoyed your reviews. I purchased a Tethrd Phantom recently. I'm glad it reviewed well! I'm hoping to get a few video hunts in this fall. I was able to film myself tagging out on spring turkey. Maybe I'll get a couple deer on video as well. I hope you have a great and safe deer season!
Thank you The Hunter Gatherer! I appreciate that! The Phantom is a great saddle- you'll enjoy it for sure! I checked out your channel and subscribed! Thanks for putting some content out there! Great job!
Thank you for making this video. I am just getting into saddle hunting. And I appreciate your review. I was worried about spending a lot of money and not like a saddle. I now have a lot better idea what way I want to go.
Ordered my new Phantom today. $207, shipped, with a SYS Hauler ES in olive green. Military discount (25%) made this saddle the winner, IMNSHO! Hunt safely, my Friends!
Great review! I'm a a fan of rocky camo too. I didn't like the look of that jacket but it's pretty styling when you wear it. Probably unintentionally sold me on that too. Thanks
Really solid review and very well made!!! I can’t speak to the other saddles, but 2 things to note on your TL set up. The carabiner that comes w the Trophyline kit is a pear shaped which allows for the webbing to slide through. Also your tether height seemed pretty high, I think of you tried to bring it down to eye level your hip pinch would have been a non issue. Again great job on the comprehensive reviews!!!
HangTimeOutdoors, GREAT information! I already had all my ropes and gear so I never thought about the TL kit for testing. I also run my tether a little high for my normal setup so adjusting it is a good point. Thanks for the comments!
That's awesome, Allen! Glad to help! I'll be releasing The Ultimate Saddle Review 2.0 really soon so keep an eye out for it. Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it!
I hope H2 Saddles does something for you b/c you are most likely the reason they are 5-6 weeks out. You sold my husband & I on them. Thank you for the awesome detauled review!
Those Buckles on the Aero hunter are the same style that an arborist would use!! So they might be little more complicated but I would almost guarantee there a hell of alot higher quality!!
@@mjoutdoorgear8134 I agree, they have switched to the more common raptor style buckle. Having the raptor style buckle while getting into a saddle in the dark is much easier. It's a little more difficult stepping through the waist belt, bridge, and leg straps like you had to do with the old style. Thank you for pointing that out and for the comment!
Apex Predator Outdoors, thank you for the information! Unfortunately, because I bought so many saddles just for the review, I was buying the saddles only and not the package deals for each in order to save some money. But I probably would have picked up the carabiner had I known prior. Thanks again!
Great video. I appreciate the amount of effort you put into this. I’m shopping for a saddle rig now. I’ll still use some stands on my property but I’m looking for a lighter weight rig and more versatility than my Summit Goliath for some of the public land I hunt which I tend to hike pretty far in. Anything to lighten up and streamline helps with not only getting in and out but for getting a deer out from some of the places I go. The buck I shot early into bow season this year was DEEP into the state forest. I had to make two trips to get him out and then my gear. The climber is very comfortable but it’s bulky and not super comfortable to carry a long way. Thanks!
Thank you for the feedback, Heath! I appreciate it! Congrats on the buck on public! Saddle hunting is definitely a lightweight way to go if you're a mobile hunter! I have other saddle reviews as well that came after this video- be sure to check them out as well before you make a decision! Good luck!
Thank you so much, this is exactly what I needed. I have had a Mantis for several years and while it is very light and portable it is not overly comfortable on longer sits. I really appreciate the time and effort that went into this video!
May want to check out the Tactisaddle ! I logged in over a hundred hrs in that saddle last year including a few all day sits and it worked great! John Tucker makes them here in Michigan. He's a great guy making a great saddle.
Paul, I reached out to Tactisaddle and never got a response back. I'd love to test one out and do a review on it. I will be doing a review on the Treehopper Recon which I believe is very similar to the Tactisaddle. Stay tuned for that review.
I know this is an older video and someone may have mentioned it before me, but you can get the Aero Kite with Raptor Buckles on your leg straps. I have one that I ordered that way.
I know this comment is coming in way after you made this video but this is one of the best saddle reviews I have found. You were honest with everything and straight forward. No selling of a product at all. So you definitely got a like and sub! Is it still possible to get that spread sheet?
Man, thank you for the nice comment and sub! I truly appreciate it! Here is a link to the spreadsheet for every saddle I've reviewed to date: drive.google.com/file/d/1AhQb0XFYQJ-zeTF5KRyuvYZP44QlpZ-6/view?usp=sharing
That was a great review video. Thanks for making that. I might look into selling my mantis trying a h2 because I have noticed the upward pull on the mantis myself. I also thing the adjustable bridge is a huge bonus.
Very fine review. Ontariofarmer. Your ratings would be close to mine. I buy, try and sell the ones I don’t want like you did. All the saddles are getting to be very good. I still have my recon, H2 and JX3. The flex is comfortable but heavy so I just sold it. Maybe more comfortable than the H2. I am going to try a Crüzr and TX5 next. Perhaps they have the comfort of a flex but not so heavy. The phantom is a good saddle and some guys will prefer it.
Trophey line most underrated saddle out there....I dont seem to have any problem that was said.think people over look them..best deal to get into saddle hunting
Thank you for the comment, Houseknives! I do think Trophyline makes a quality saddle and that they're probably overlooked. However, I think until they came out with their Covert saddle they were a little behind the time and they didn't offer many options. I'm excited to see the Covert in their lineup and I'd love to try it out! Thanks again for the comment!
@@madhuntsadventures I'm sure they will,they where the first to make them an from I got my saddle from them last year...they have added of of stuff to there webpage
Absolutely 100% amazing review. I have been tossing around the idea of getting into saddle hunting for the past year and a half. As always being brand new to something, I am the kind of person to fill myself full of knowledge on all available gear, before pulling the trigger on purchasing. This review helped me tremendously... Thank you for taking the time to thoroughly review, and explain your findings. Very much appreciated, and job well done. SUSCRIBED
Doug, thank you SO much for your feedback! I truly appreciate it! I love doing product reviews and helping fellow hunters out! Thank you for your support as well!
I just started to look into saddles and the time and effort and upfront money you spent for this review is crazy good lol. In the beginning I was going with the H2 as well and you sealed the deal for me thanks a million I gave u a thumbs up and subscribed!!! The spreadsheet was awesome as well. Appreciate your time and effort. Good luck this year hunting!!!
Thank you very much, Hunter! I appreciate the feedback, support, and you subscribing! It was a lot of time and upfront cost but I enjoy doing product reviews and helping fellow hunters out! Hope you have a great season!
Really enjoy the reviews! I’m looking at purchasing my first saddle soon. I’ve been looking at the Trophyline Venatic Saddle Kit, Tethrd Phantom kit and Cruzr XC kit. Was wondering what your thoughts are? Thank you!
Thank you for watching, Justin! ...and welcome to saddle hunting! I've not had a chance to review the Venatic yet but the Phantom and CRUZR XC are both great saddles. I personally use the XC at this time. Take a look at my saddle spreadsheet to get more information on saddle info. Here it is... drive.google.com/file/d/1VeNU...
Great review! Great video! I would only change one part, the announcement of the weights was confusing until I looked at the header in the spreadsheet. 2 pounds 2 oz not 2.2 oz. I wish I had seen your video before I bought my mantis. Keep up the good work. Happy hunting
Thank you, Robert! I appreciate that! Yeah I accidentally said 2.2 oz and never even realized it until the video was posted. Sorry for any confusion. haha Aaron Wright Outdoors has a video on making the Mantis more comfortable. You should check it out. th-cam.com/video/-MpOtepNUWs/w-d-xo.html
Thanks I will check it out. Yea I got the Mantis last year like a week before the Phantom came out. So I have not hunted in it yet who knows maybe I’ll be fine with it.
This was the most comprehensive saddle video I’ve found. Thank you very much. I’m new to saddle hunting and based on your extensive review I’m going with the H2. Thanks again for an outstanding video!
Thank you for the feedback, Robert! I appreciate that and I'm glad it helped! I've done a few other saddle reviews as well since this one so check them out before making a final decision just to be sure. Regardless, the H2 is a great saddle for the price! Have a great deer season!
@@anonymous_friendI think the Phantom is a great saddle. But for me, I'd go with the CRUZR XC if I was buying another one. It is FAR more comfortable than the Phantom in my opinion.
@@anonymous_friend I've never sat in the Flex, only the Kite. I like the comfort of the Kite probably better than the Phantom. I've heard the Flex is better than the Kite so based on that I'd probably go with the Flex over the Phantom. I'm not a Phantom hater at all, I just don't think it's the most comfortable saddle. Yes it has a lot of options (comfort fit channels, adjustable bridge, etc., but it's not the most comfortable in my opinion).
Thank you, I also used a modified sit drag last year because I wasn’t ready to pull the trigger on a commercially made saddle. This was an awesome review.
Awesome review! I ran a sit drag saddle last year and have been struggling to choose an actual saddle. This was great info I really appreciate it, you obviously put a lot of money and time into it. It's be interested in buying your phantom if you still have it.
Thank you, Josh! I appreciate that! The H2 is a great saddle for the money but check out my Crüzr XC video before you pull the trigger on the H2. In my opinion the Crüzr XC is the best saddle out there!
Thank you, nemarec! I appreciate that! All of the saddles on the market are very safe, like climbing rated safe, but you'll need to go to each manufacturers website to get safety info. That information is something I don't provide. Thank you for watching!
Thanks, James! I appreciate that! I just recently heard of the Cruzr and watched a review on it. How do you like it? Have you had other saddles to compare it to?
I have owned the Phantom, Mantis, Kestrel, Flex, and Cruzr. The Flex and Cruzr are, by far, the most comfortable to me. The Cruzr is my favorite of all them. Light, comfortable, reasonable price, quality construction, and user friendly. Basically, the best parts of all other saddles rolled into one. Your mileage may vary, of course.
Jeremy, thanks for the comment! I wasn’t able to purchase every saddle and selected what I felt was the most popular “entry level” saddles. I’ve never tried that saddle but I’d love to try one out for sure!
Thanks for the review! I have been looking for the right saddle for about two weeks and I was actually leaning towards the H2 over the phantom just off of all the research and you surely helped me make the right decision much appreciated 👍
Thanks for the feedback, Dylan! I'm glad the review helped! The H2 is a great saddle! You should also check out the Cruzr XC! It cost more but it is a really nice saddle. ...but I'd be happy with either one!
What is the type of carabiner you have and wear can I find them? We’re about to order 2 saddles and I like the carabiners better than having the traditional knots seems easier and quicker
Thanks for reaching out, Logan! I'll send you my affiliate links to the carabiners and the Ropeman 2 that I use. Feel free to research others as well but this is what I'm using. Good luck! amzn.to/3hr1Bfq amzn.to/3nVKWmF
@@madhuntsadventures I have a follow-up question. I live in the south and the temps during hunting season sometimes are pretty warm. The tethered saddle is mesh but what is the H2 and does it get hot (cause sweating) on warmer days?
@@jameshall7770 I believe the H2 is made of Cordura which is a nylon material. It definitely won't breath like a mesh saddle. You should check out the Cruzr XC! It is my favorite saddle and is mesh. th-cam.com/video/6wwl-B4L9lg/w-d-xo.html
Great video, been doing so e research and want to get a tree saddle but didn't realize how many options were out there still I started researching, so great video, very informative and greatly appreciated. I'm torn between the phantom and the Eberhart saddle. Leaning towards the Eberhart cause it has more adjustability with the seat/saddle. They aren't super expensive but enough money that the wrong choice is a regret. Any extra input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
Welcome to saddle hunting, Chad! Great idea to research all your options before making a purchase. I have used and own sling style saddles and single and double panel saddles and I personally wouldn't recommend a sling style saddle to a new guy. This is just my opinion but a sling style saddle is harder to use than a panel type saddle and there is a lot more fiddle factor. I have another review where I include the ESS and I have a spreadsheet in the description section that you can look at to see my pros and cons for each saddle. That may help you out as well. Here is a link: th-cam.com/video/1ir7_Yz2-WQ/w-d-xo.html
@@madhuntsadventures thank you for the reply. So the tethrd ess is a sling style I'm guessing? I just like being able to have two panel or one. I have used a climbing tree stand for years and ladder stands I build myself. I have no problem sitting all day, if I'm comfortable, mostly why I build my own ladder stands. I do construction/ building so heights, harness and all that I'm not new to, just the hanging part. Any recommendations for a first one? Comfort most important and I think I'ld like the option of back support if wanted but wouldn't always use it. Weight isn't that important as going from a climber to saddle anything is going to be alot lighter. What would you recommend for a first saddle with that in mind? Thank you so much for getting right back to me, your the first and only one so far, of prolly 10 videos I commented on, greatly appreciated.
@@chadbinette3201 Yes the ESS is a sling style which takes more effort to use than a "panel" type saddle. Comfort in a saddle is specific to each person so it's hard to pick one. I personally like the CRUZR XC, CRUZR Archon and Latitude Method as my top three saddles for comfort (and functionality) but there are several out there that are comfortable. If you have the chance to check out Saddlehunter.com you could post a comment asking if anyone lives in your area that would be willing to meet up so that you could try out a saddle or two before you purchase one. If you don't have the ability to do that one of the saddles I mentioned would definitely be a great saddle to get into. Hope that helps!
Great question, Wade! To be honest, I had several guys asking to buy the H2 from me and I finally caved and sold it. I replaced it with the CRUZR XC and that has been my primary saddle. I still think the H2 Slingshot (and the Hotshot) are great saddles for the money and pretty comfortable as well. You get a lot of bang for your buck with the H2.
I have the new phantom and I noticed the cupping made a big difference when I switched from the middle to the lower setting and then got into the sitting position .. didn’t see if you had tried it sitting or just the leaning position
John, I tried many variations with the comfort channels and leaning/sitting. I definitely agree with you that the lower channel is the best for sitting.
Unfortunately I've not had the opportunity to review the Method yet! I have been communicating with Latitude but we've not been able to make it happen at this point. Thank you for the feedback on the review! I really appreciate it!
@@larrybrown9301 I agree! Latitude was supposed to send me one to review but then they were really busy and we were having a hard time communicating and working it out. I'll be touching base with them again and I hope to make it happen!
Great Review. Just discovered this Saddle Hunting method and am looking into "Saddling Up" this 2021 season. Of the top I had estimated an initial cost of $300 - $400...I think my estimate might be a little low. Perhaps I will start with a modified Sit Drag...Do you have a video on your setup?
Welcome to saddle hunting, RRD! I actually don't have a video on my modified Sitdrag but I should do one! You'll still need to purchase all the ropes, carabiners, etc. but running a Sitdrag will save you on the cost of a saddle. That will also allow you to get a feel for it and help you decide what you're looking for.
Enjoy watching the video, definitely an all in one from the saddles I have been looking at. The only thing that I noticed was when you used the TrophyLine saddle, you didn’t have the Black Diamond Pearabiner carabiner that TrophyLine recommends for the 2” webbing. But overall, definitely one of the best review video.
Thank you for the feedback, Joseph! I appreciate that! You are correct, I did not have the recommended carabiner for the Trophyline but I didn't want to purchase one just for the review. Thanks again!
Very informative saddle video. I have never hunted from a saddle but I have been very curious about trying one. My wife told me to pick one out for my birthday in December so I have been watching video's to try and buy the right one for me. I am a small guy around 5ft. 6in. and 125 Lbs. I am looking for something that would be very easy to use since I have never been in one before and I need comfort since I am in my early 50's. I am leaning toward the H2 with the adjustable bridge after watching this video and others. Do you think it would be a good one for a beginner who only be sitting 4 hrs. at the most? Thanks for any feed back.
Hey, J Justice! Thank you for reaching out! ...and thank you for watching the video. Welcome to saddle hunting! First of all, yes, the H2 saddle would be a great saddle for comfort in my opinion at a very reasonable price. There are other saddles that are comfortable as well and I've done additional reviews since this video was posted. Feel free to check them out on my channel. If I can answer any questions don't hesitate to ask! Take care!
@@madhuntsadventures Thanks so much for feed back. I did also watch the your one on the 2 panel saddles but I think I am still leaning toward the H2. It just looked like it would be more comfortable than those.
@@madhuntsadventures I really enjoy your videos they are especially helpful to someone who is looking to get into saddle hunting and trying to make the best purchase for their needs. I have decided on the H2 Slingshot with the TriAd bridge in Camo Tree Hunter Fabric as my first saddle. Hard to beat their price for what you get.
Great question, Jason! I purchased the Phantom from an outdoor show and was able to try it on and test it for fit so I had the correct size for my build. I had also already purchased all of the saddles and picked the H2 because I felt it was a better option due to the unlimited adjustable bridge. I wasn't a fan of the three settings offered with the Phantom and the one setting didn't hold very well. Also, they were a tie in comfort so I felt the H2 had a slight advantage. The price/savings with the H2 was a plus as well.
Great question, Jb429421! Well I have to be honest and first say that my modified Sitdrag was pretty comfortable. Was it as comfortable as the H2, Cruzr XC, and Flex? I'd have to say no but it was pretty close. In addition, there are bigger differences that really make the difference. 1) You don't need a rock climbing harness paired with the Sitdrag. 2) A saddle is secure to your body and it includes the lineman loops. 3) A saddle has leg straps that hold it in place and a Sitdrag does not. 4) You don't have to continually adjust a saddle like you do a Sitdrag. 5) There is a peace of mind having one system that is completely safe over a DIY Sitdrag. So is there a huge difference in comfort in a Sitdrag and a saddle? Yes and no. My Sitdrag was comfortable but I'd have to shift it and adjust it after a bit and I don't have to do that with a saddle that is held in place and secure to my body. Not to mention the ability to get comfortable because you feel safe and secure with a saddle is something you don't fully get with a DIY Sitdrag. I hope that answered your question!
Wow, Thanks for the detailed response. It is the exact information I was looking for. I can't express to you enough my appreciation for taking the time to lay it out like that. Last year I hunted (3 sits) in a rch/sitdrag and really liked it. I've been primarily a climber hunter for the last 25 years and so I'm used to being very comfortable while on stand. I was comfortable last year but you always wonder what your missing out on going the less expensive rout. The one part of your response I'm still trying to wrap my head around is #5. With the rch I used two prussics on my tether. A short one to the sitdrag bridge and a longer one to the belay on the rch set just long enough not to add pressure or restrict movement. In my head that seems more secure than the saddle as a rch is designed less so for comfort and more so for safety. I guess in my head I'm trying to determine is the saddle worth spending the 💰 on. I know it saves the weight of the rch plus should be over all more comfortable. ....ahhh decisions decisions.
@@Jb429421 haha! We've all been there! Too many decisions for sure! No problem at all...I love helping fellow hunters! Here's my thoughts on your dilemma, if you're comfortable in the rch and you feel safe with your current setup, then I'd say stick with it one more season and keep researching and looking at saddle reviews, etc. until you know for sure what you're looking for. It sounds like you're hitting the two main factors (safety and comfort) with your current setup so there's no reason to rush anything. There are guys who run the tag end of their tether to a belay loop or a D-ring Cobra buckle on their saddles so you have that as a backup as well. Just look into all the options and don't rush it. You don't want to regret a purchase.
Which H2? Currently looking into them and theirs two different options? The one is $185 and another is $240? Something above $200. Just curious if I should go with the cheaper one or more expensive and why
Great question, Out Fishing Your Bass! In the Ultimate Saddle Review 2020 I was reviewing the H2 Slingshot saddle. However, I just released my Ultimate Saddle Reveiw 2.0 5 days ago and in that one I'm reviewing the H2 Hotshot. Both are really nice saddles but the Hotshot has a mesh panel which is cooler during early season sits. I also upgraded the bridge to the Amsteel TriAd bridge on the Hotshot so the retail price is $227 plus shipping. However, I'm selling the Hotshot at a 10% discount if you're interested? You can check out the video by clicking here... th-cam.com/video/bX8T9akfo6M/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for asking, Cody! Unfortunately I've not gotten one yet. I've talked with the owner several times and he was waiting for a shipment of supplies before getting one to me. I need to follow up with him. Thanks again for the reminder!
Kevin, I've never sat in the Flex but I did reach out to Aero Hunter in an effort to get one to review. I'm waiting to hear back. The Kite was very comfortable and I've heard the Flex is as well!
Great question, Payton! All "kits" should come with your lineman's and tether ropes. You can look at each manufacturer's kit to see what is offered prior to making the purchase. Hope that helps!
@@madhuntsadventures Ohhh man. I must have been tired when I left that comment. Your recon video is what swayed me to go with it. Haha Another great review! Just subbed.
Noticed it looks chilly in your neck of the woods. I mostly hunt in warmer climates, where a breathable saddle would cause less sweating. It appears as though the Phantom is much more breathable than the H2. Is this true in your experience? TIA.
Great question, FrostyNugs! Two answers... 1) Yes I would have to say the Phantom is more breathable simply due to it having mesh and the H2 having cordura (I believe). 2) I don't know that the cordura causes that much more of an issue in breathability but if you're hunting in a warmer climate I guess it could be something to consider. Where I'm at it isn't really a concern.
Thank you, Joe! Before you make a decision make sure you watch my other saddle reviews. I just released 4 new reviews on 12 new saddles to the market. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask! Take care.
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Here is the link to my Saddle Spreadsheet: drive.google.com/file/d/1VeNUwZwg2TqDp6WyreIVJbAlSffzA5f-/view
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Awesome thank for sharing this spreadsheet. I do have a question. What pouches do you use for your saddle?
@@andrewpica2473 Great question! Here are the pouches I'm running...
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It says you put it in the trash and can't download would you please send me a link. Love your videos
@@vwjti18t Sorry, Andy! I'll take a look at it and put the link back up. I've added the link to my recent saddle review video's and must've messed it up! 👍🏽
You may be one of the most thorough and quality reviewers on TH-cam. Seriously, the amount of time, money, and thought that you put into this is outstanding. It is extraordinary that you would buy and sit in 5 different saddles in full hunting gear for an hour each. Thank you very much!
Dustin, I just want to say thank you for leaving such a supportive comment! I really appreciate that very much! I love doing product reviews and try to think of everything that someone would want to know about a product and then touch on it. The Ultimate Saddle Review was born out of my personal desire to find the ONE saddle that I loved most so that I could pass along the information to all the new guys entering the movement. Thank you again for the support- it is appreciated!
I have three other saddle/sling reviews on my channel and in two of those videos I'm giving away a free saddle and sling (one per video).
not saying thus isn't a great video but have you seen nutnfancy?
@@Wills420913 I've not watched any of nutnfancy's vids. Was there one related to saddles that you're referring to?
I agree!! His reviews are second to none. Especially when it comes to the saddle world!!
I agree, this was very thorough and one of the most helpful reviews I have seen!
I appreciate the way you presented all of the different saddles. Your video has greatly helped me make a decision on which one I want to purchase. Even your sound track music wasn't overbearing. I've seen more than one video that needed to drop the sound track music, but not this one.
As it turns out, I purchased the H2 Tree Saddle, based off of your video presentation. I've been bow hunting since '77 and have used every method imaginable for hunting from a tree. This hunting method will give me options that didn't exist with climbers or hang-on stands. Thanks, again!
Thank you for the feedback, outdoorguy57! I truly appreciate it and I'm glad the video was helpful! The H2 is a great saddle and I know you'll enjoy it!
One of the most thorough, objective and professional gear reviews I have ever watched!
Thank you very much for the feedback, Cascade! I truly appreciate it!
I'm looking into saddles and this is the BEST review of different brands I've found. Well done. Thank you.
Thank you very much for the feedback, Jeff! I greatly appreciate it and hope you find the saddle you're looking for! Feel free to check out some of my other saddle reviews to see other/newer models out on the market. Take care!
Made a homemade Saddle last year because I too was not ready to commit to purchasing a Manufactured saddle. Thank you for spending your hard earned cash and spending your time to do this review I will be buying the H2 based off of your Review and will be using it for they 2021 to 2022 hunting season.
That's awesome, Tyler! I made my own DIY Sitdrag for my first saddle because I didn't want to commit either (until I had all the information). That's exactly why I put together that video. I'm glad it was helpful! The H2 is a great saddle and I hope you enjoy it! Thank you for the feedback and good luck to you moving forward!
Great video, I’m just starting to look for a saddle and this video is pushing me towards the h2, I’m looking for comfort, very thorough, thanks again.
I am new to the saddle hunting world and am ready to make a change. I bow hunt the Mississippi Valley in SW Wisconsin which is majority hill and bluff country. I have been doing a ton of research and have all the saddles tested on my radar. This video helps a ton with questions that wouldn’t be easily answered by a website. I would be interested to connect on one of the saddles.
Daniel, thanks for the reply! I appreciate the information. You can email me at madhunts2@gmail.com for more information.
Appreciated your time and help today at the Dixie Deer Classic
You are welcome, John! It was great meeting you! Maybe we'll see you again next year. Thank you for the support. 👍🏼
A great in depth and honest review. For someone looking to get into saddle hunting and who lives in another country,Australia. It has greatly helped me in my quest to get into this style of hunting. I have also just signed up to the saddle hunting forum as well, hoping for more great tips from everyone on there.
Many thanks for your time and effort MADHUNTS. I’ll be looking at the H2
Thank you, Adam! I really appreciate that and am super glad to help! Welcome to saddle hunting! ...and to the forum! I also posted a few other videos (with free drawing to win a saddle/sling) that you should check out:
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G’day. Yes when I subscribed to your channel and went through a lot of your previous videos. I saw the one about the sling harness. I put my hand up to be in the draw.
Cheers
The best review of hunting saddle that I have found. Looking to buy my first hunting saddle and I really appreciate all of your time, effort and honest review. Thanks
Fisher Hawk, I really appreciate the feedback and I'm glad the review was helpful! I hope you find the right saddle for you and that you have a great season!
Seriously. Even put in the effort making a google doc for us. I appreciate this guy so much
@@georgekrstev7712 Thank you for the kind words- I appreciate that very much! Glad to help! Hope you have a great season!
This is exactly what I’ve been needing! I keep commenting on videos asking people but no answers. This is really helpful
Thank you for the feedback, The Kernal03! I'm really glad the video was helpful! If you have ANY questions at all feel free to reach out! You can email me as well! Take care!
Have you seen the XOP hybrid saddle? Full package with platform is $200 plus state tax. Curious on your thoughts on it. Main differences would be shoulder straps, no belt, and integrated safety tree stand harness with a phantom like saddle.
Thanks for the comment, Christopher! I appreciate you reaching out. I'm hoping to do a review on the Renegade but we'll see if it pans out. Stay tuned!
This was a phenomenal review. The effort and time that went into it was great. I wish I would have watched it when it first came out. I’ve ordered a cruzr, but I may order an as H2 backup, they are on a 10 week backlog. it was nice to see a methodical, metric based approach to a review. Most “reviews” are pro staffers or company owners buddies, etc highlighting the features of the product they are pumping.
Got that Bill Dance vibe. Learned a lot about saddles. This is an all time classic soundtrack is on point. Great video
Thank you, Jensen! I appreciate the feedback! Thanks for watching!
Awesome review. I just ordered the phantom and alot of options to go with it. It was $$ but I'm glad I made the right choice for me
That's awesome, Ty Bo! Welcome to saddle hunting! Ordering the right saddle for you is exactly what it's about. 👍🏼 Email anytime if you have any questions.
This easy the first video I’ve seen from you and I’m impressed. As a new hunter this was very informative and I wanted to say thank you. You have given me a direction to start my research
Thank you so much, Austin! I really appreciate the feedback and I'm glad to help! If you have any questions about saddle hunting don't hesitate to ask!
I just started my own TH-cam channel a few months ago. I really enjoyed your reviews. I purchased a Tethrd Phantom recently. I'm glad it reviewed well! I'm hoping to get a few video hunts in this fall. I was able to film myself tagging out on spring turkey. Maybe I'll get a couple deer on video as well. I hope you have a great and safe deer season!
Thank you The Hunter Gatherer! I appreciate that! The Phantom is a great saddle- you'll enjoy it for sure! I checked out your channel and subscribed! Thanks for putting some content out there! Great job!
Thank you for making this video. I am just getting into saddle hunting. And I appreciate your review. I was worried about spending a lot of money and not like a saddle. I now have a lot better idea what way I want to go.
Awesome, Tim! Glad it helped! Hope you have a great season!
You as well
Ordered my new Phantom today. $207, shipped, with a SYS Hauler ES in olive green. Military discount (25%) made this saddle the winner, IMNSHO! Hunt safely, my Friends!
Team Crooks, that’s an awesome deal! Thanks for your service! The Phantom is a great saddle! Enjoy!
I have to say I really appreciate the content. Your video was BY FAR the best I have seen with an in-depth and analytical review of these saddles.
Thank you, Garrett! I really appreciate that!
Great review! I'm a a fan of rocky camo too. I didn't like the look of that jacket but it's pretty styling when you wear it. Probably unintentionally sold me on that too. Thanks
Haha! Jackcbr600, thank you! I appreciate that! I like that Camo! It’s not $1000 but it’s nice! Lol
Very Helpful for someone beginning to explore saddles. Thank you.
Really solid review and very well made!!!
I can’t speak to the other saddles, but 2 things to note on your TL set up. The carabiner that comes w the Trophyline kit is a pear shaped which allows for the webbing to slide through. Also your tether height seemed pretty high, I think of you tried to bring it down to eye level your hip pinch would have been a non issue. Again great job on the comprehensive reviews!!!
HangTimeOutdoors, GREAT information! I already had all my ropes and gear so I never thought about the TL kit for testing. I also run my tether a little high for my normal setup so adjusting it is a good point. Thanks for the comments!
I was looking for this video. Had a bunch of options all together instead of searching for individual reviews. Good job sir 👏
That's awesome, Allen! Glad to help! I'll be releasing The Ultimate Saddle Review 2.0 really soon so keep an eye out for it. Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it!
Excellent video. I was leaning towards H2 anyway but now I am sure. Thx for putting in the work to make a informative video.
You're welcome, Danny! Glad to help! Thank you for the feedback- I appreciate that! Enjoy the H2! It's a nice saddle!
I hope H2 Saddles does something for you b/c you are most likely the reason they are 5-6 weeks out. You sold my husband & I on them. Thank you for the awesome detauled review!
Thank you for the feedback, Jennifer! I appreciate that! The H2 is a great saddle! I hope you both have a great season!
Those Buckles on the Aero hunter are the same style that an arborist would use!! So they might be little more complicated but I would almost guarantee there a hell of alot higher quality!!
You might be right, M&J Archery! Thanks for watching and for the comment!
I know on There new models the Buckles are quick dis connect!! Thanks for putting out a great unbiased Video!!
@@mjoutdoorgear8134 I agree, they have switched to the more common raptor style buckle. Having the raptor style buckle while getting into a saddle in the dark is much easier. It's a little more difficult stepping through the waist belt, bridge, and leg straps like you had to do with the old style.
Thank you for pointing that out and for the comment!
Wow. Lots of unknown info to help a beginner use to decide on which may be the most effective one to buy. Thanku
You are welcome, Randy! Thank you for the feedback- it is appreciated!
Awesome video. Thanks! Just to note, if you buy the kit, the Trophy line comes with a larger carabineer for the bridge.
Apex Predator Outdoors, thank you for the information! Unfortunately, because I bought so many saddles just for the review, I was buying the saddles only and not the package deals for each in order to save some money. But I probably would have picked up the carabiner had I known prior. Thanks again!
@@madhuntsadventures all good! Im glad you took the time and expense to Do all this! Great review
@@ApexPredatorOutdoors Thanks, man! I really do appreciate that! Good luck this hunting season!
Best saddle review out there period imo
Thank you very much, Mike! I appreciate the comment!
Great video. I appreciate the amount of effort you put into this. I’m shopping for a saddle rig now. I’ll still use some stands on my property but I’m looking for a lighter weight rig and more versatility than my Summit Goliath for some of the public land I hunt which I tend to hike pretty far in. Anything to lighten up and streamline helps with not only getting in and out but for getting a deer out from some of the places I go. The buck I shot early into bow season this year was DEEP into the state forest. I had to make two trips to get him out and then my gear. The climber is very comfortable but it’s bulky and not super comfortable to carry a long way. Thanks!
Thank you for the feedback, Heath! I appreciate it! Congrats on the buck on public! Saddle hunting is definitely a lightweight way to go if you're a mobile hunter! I have other saddle reviews as well that came after this video- be sure to check them out as well before you make a decision! Good luck!
A lot of work went into doing that video. Outstanding job! Very informative. Thank you!
Thank you very much, Matt! I appreciate the feedback and thanks for watching!
Great review. Very helpful in how you described them demoed.
Thank you for the feedback, G Sutherland! I appreciate it and I'm glad it was helpful!
Thank you so much, this is exactly what I needed. I have had a Mantis for several years and while it is very light and portable it is not overly comfortable on longer sits. I really appreciate the time and effort that went into this video!
Thank you, Steven! I appreciate the feedback and the support! I'm glad the review was helpful! Thank you for watching!
May want to check out the Tactisaddle ! I logged in over a hundred hrs in that saddle last year including a few all day sits and it worked great! John Tucker makes them here in Michigan. He's a great guy making a great saddle.
Paul, I reached out to Tactisaddle and never got a response back. I'd love to test one out and do a review on it. I will be doing a review on the Treehopper Recon which I believe is very similar to the Tactisaddle. Stay tuned for that review.
I know this is an older video and someone may have mentioned it before me, but you can get the Aero Kite with Raptor Buckles on your leg straps. I have one that I ordered that way.
Thanks for the info, Kevin! Yes I was told about that after the video was made but thanks for letting me know!
I know this comment is coming in way after you made this video but this is one of the best saddle reviews I have found. You were honest with everything and straight forward. No selling of a product at all. So you definitely got a like and sub! Is it still possible to get that spread sheet?
Man, thank you for the nice comment and sub! I truly appreciate it!
Here is a link to the spreadsheet for every saddle I've reviewed to date:
drive.google.com/file/d/1AhQb0XFYQJ-zeTF5KRyuvYZP44QlpZ-6/view?usp=sharing
Thanks for all your work on this review! Very helpful.
Glad to help, Mark! Thank you for the feedback, I truly appreciate it!
That was a great review video. Thanks for making that. I might look into selling my mantis trying a h2 because I have noticed the upward pull on the mantis myself. I also thing the adjustable bridge is a huge bonus.
Very fine review. Ontariofarmer. Your ratings would be close to mine.
I buy, try and sell the ones I don’t want like you did. All the saddles are getting to be very good. I still have my recon, H2 and JX3. The flex is comfortable but heavy so I just sold it. Maybe more comfortable than the H2. I am going to try a Crüzr and TX5 next. Perhaps they have the comfort of a flex but not so heavy. The phantom is a good saddle and some guys will prefer it.
Thanks, Ontariofarmer! I appreciate the comment!
...and it sounds like you have a TON of experience in multiple saddles! Ill keep you in mind if I’m looking for a future saddle!
MADHUNTS Adventures I try them and sell them like you. Your review was fair and excellent. I have never tried a kite.
Trophey line most underrated saddle out there....I dont seem to have any problem that was said.think people over look them..best deal to get into saddle hunting
Thank you for the comment, Houseknives! I do think Trophyline makes a quality saddle and that they're probably overlooked. However, I think until they came out with their Covert saddle they were a little behind the time and they didn't offer many options. I'm excited to see the Covert in their lineup and I'd love to try it out! Thanks again for the comment!
@@madhuntsadventures I'm sure they will,they where the first to make them an from I got my saddle from them last year...they have added of of stuff to there webpage
@@HouseBladeDesign Yeah I see that they've definitely upped their game! I'm glad to see that!
Absolutely 100% amazing review. I have been tossing around the idea of getting into saddle hunting for the past year and a half. As always being brand new to something, I am the kind of person to fill myself full of knowledge on all available gear, before pulling the trigger on purchasing. This review helped me tremendously... Thank you for taking the time to thoroughly review, and explain your findings. Very much appreciated, and job well done. SUSCRIBED
Doug, thank you SO much for your feedback! I truly appreciate it! I love doing product reviews and helping fellow hunters out! Thank you for your support as well!
looking at the cruzr since i cant get the yarak. i did the same thing with the sit drag and hate to waist money. thanks for all your work
Thank you, MaxxHeadroom! I appreciate that! Yeah the Sitdrag definitely works, but it doesn’t compare with the other saddle options!
I just started to look into saddles and the time and effort and upfront money you spent for this review is crazy good lol. In the beginning I was going with the H2 as well and you sealed the deal for me thanks a million I gave u a thumbs up and subscribed!!! The spreadsheet was awesome as well. Appreciate your time and effort. Good luck this year hunting!!!
Thank you very much, Hunter! I appreciate the feedback, support, and you subscribing! It was a lot of time and upfront cost but I enjoy doing product reviews and helping fellow hunters out! Hope you have a great season!
Wow this is truly impressive seeing how far saddles have come in three years. Thank you for sharing. I love your content sir.
Thank you, Brandon! I truly appreciate it! Thanks for watching as well. 👍🏼
Really enjoy the reviews! I’m looking at purchasing my first saddle soon. I’ve been looking at the Trophyline Venatic Saddle Kit, Tethrd Phantom kit and Cruzr XC kit. Was wondering what your thoughts are? Thank you!
Thank you for watching, Justin! ...and welcome to saddle hunting! I've not had a chance to review the Venatic yet but the Phantom and CRUZR XC are both great saddles. I personally use the XC at this time. Take a look at my saddle spreadsheet to get more information on saddle info. Here it is... drive.google.com/file/d/1VeNU...
Great review! Great video! I would only change one part, the announcement of the weights was confusing until I looked at the header in the spreadsheet. 2 pounds 2 oz not 2.2 oz. I wish I had seen your video before I bought my mantis. Keep up the good work. Happy hunting
Thank you, Robert! I appreciate that! Yeah I accidentally said 2.2 oz and never even realized it until the video was posted. Sorry for any confusion. haha Aaron Wright Outdoors has a video on making the Mantis more comfortable. You should check it out.
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Thanks I will check it out. Yea I got the Mantis last year like a week before the Phantom came out. So I have not hunted in it yet who knows maybe I’ll be fine with it.
Great reviews, man! I’m thinking of making the switch to saddles and you’ve given me a lot to think about!
Thanks for the feedback, Eric! I think you'll really love saddle hunting! Let me know what you end up doing! Take care!
This was the most comprehensive saddle video I’ve found. Thank you very much. I’m new to saddle hunting and based on your extensive review I’m going with the H2. Thanks again for an outstanding video!
Thank you for the feedback, Robert! I appreciate that and I'm glad it helped! I've done a few other saddle reviews as well since this one so check them out before making a final decision just to be sure. Regardless, the H2 is a great saddle for the price! Have a great deer season!
Great reviews! Thank you, this helped narrow my search for the right saddle. I’m new to the idea of saddles, a great help. Thank you..
Awesome! Glad to help, Todd! ...and welcome to saddle hunting!
Just sold first saddle ( kestral aero hunter because of shoulder problems. Purchased a tethered Phantom. Very interested in the CruzeR
Jack, the CRUZR is SUPER comfortable! Check out my review on the CRUZR!
What do you think of phantom? already looking for something else?
@@anonymous_friendI think the Phantom is a great saddle. But for me, I'd go with the CRUZR XC if I was buying another one. It is FAR more comfortable than the Phantom in my opinion.
MADHUNTS Adventures Thanks man. How about the Kestrel Flex, where would that fall in line with those 2?
@@anonymous_friend I've never sat in the Flex, only the Kite. I like the comfort of the Kite probably better than the Phantom. I've heard the Flex is better than the Kite so based on that I'd probably go with the Flex over the Phantom. I'm not a Phantom hater at all, I just don't think it's the most comfortable saddle. Yes it has a lot of options (comfort fit channels, adjustable bridge, etc., but it's not the most comfortable in my opinion).
Very nice review of the five tree saddles. You did put in a lot of work. I did enjoy the video and the information you provided.
Thank you for the feedback, Dennis! I appreciate it! I'm glad the review was helpful!
Excellent video, exactly what I needed. Thanks so much.
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Thanks for the feedback, j.l! I appreciate it! Glad the video was helpful.
Thank you, I also used a modified sit drag last year because I wasn’t ready to pull the trigger on a commercially made saddle. This was an awesome review.
Awesome, Jack! Glad it helped! I have three other saddle/sling reviews and in two of them I'm giving away one free saddle and one free sling!
Awesome review! I ran a sit drag saddle last year and have been struggling to choose an actual saddle. This was great info I really appreciate it, you obviously put a lot of money and time into it. It's be interested in buying your phantom if you still have it.
Nathaniel,
Thanks for the comment! I appreciate it! If you email me at madhunts2@gmail.com I can get you more information.
nice to finally find a review that isn't biased
Thank you, Byron! I appreciate the feedback and I'm glad to help!
Great video man, I was set on the trophyline until watching this.
Now I want an h2
Thank you, Josh! I appreciate that! The H2 is a great saddle for the money but check out my Crüzr XC video before you pull the trigger on the H2. In my opinion the Crüzr XC is the best saddle out there!
@@madhuntsadventures thanks for the heads up
Really appreciate this review. I just want to know more about the safety and how well it will hold up as far as stitching.
Thank you, nemarec! I appreciate that! All of the saddles on the market are very safe, like climbing rated safe, but you'll need to go to each manufacturers website to get safety info. That information is something I don't provide. Thank you for watching!
I know I'm probably a little late but do u still have the phantom for sale thanks great video
Thank you, Neil! Unfortunately all saddles were sold. Thanks for reaching out!
Great job man. I looked at all these as well as the flex and cruzr. Decided to go with the cruzr.
Thanks, James! I appreciate that! I just recently heard of the Cruzr and watched a review on it. How do you like it? Have you had other saddles to compare it to?
MADHUNTS Adventures Just ordered it. Should have it in about 3 weeks. It will be my first saddle.
Awesome! Make sure you let me know what you think once you’ve tried it out! I’d love to review that one sometime!
I ordered a Crüzr too. Your ratings on these saddles are close to mine
I have owned the Phantom, Mantis, Kestrel, Flex, and Cruzr. The Flex and Cruzr are, by far, the most comfortable to me. The Cruzr is my favorite of all them. Light, comfortable, reasonable price, quality construction, and user friendly. Basically, the best parts of all other saddles rolled into one. Your mileage may vary, of course.
You forgot the JX3 Hybrid. That is my favorite. I use the Trophyline for quick hunts but for most hunts I would rather carry the JX3.
Jeremy, thanks for the comment! I wasn’t able to purchase every saddle and selected what I felt was the most popular “entry level” saddles. I’ve never tried that saddle but I’d love to try one out for sure!
Thanks for the review! I have been looking for the right saddle for about two weeks and I was actually leaning towards the H2 over the phantom just off of all the research and you surely helped me make the right decision much appreciated 👍
Thanks for the feedback, Dylan! I'm glad the review helped! The H2 is a great saddle! You should also check out the Cruzr XC! It cost more but it is a really nice saddle. ...but I'd be happy with either one!
Do you have a good link for this sheet? I just found your channel
Sure thing! Here is the updated spreadsheet...
drive.google.com/file/d/1fe-OPcJwiCtreoa6dr32UqwQRrsNQlUs/view?usp=sharing
What is the type of carabiner you have and wear can I find them? We’re about to order 2 saddles and I like the carabiners better than having the traditional knots seems easier and quicker
Thanks for reaching out, Logan! I'll send you my affiliate links to the carabiners and the Ropeman 2 that I use. Feel free to research others as well but this is what I'm using. Good luck!
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Great review!! For a hunter considering going to the saddle system, it was very informative. Please send me a copy of the spreadsheet. Thanks
Thank you, Ronald! I appreciate the feedback! There is a link for the spreadsheet in the description. Thanks again!
Thank you for the time and money you spent for our information. This was a great video
Thank you, James! I appreciate that very much! I love doing product reviews and helping fellow hunters out! Have a great season!
@@madhuntsadventures I have a follow-up question. I live in the south and the temps during hunting season sometimes are pretty warm. The tethered saddle is mesh but what is the H2 and does it get hot (cause sweating) on warmer days?
@@jameshall7770 I believe the H2 is made of Cordura which is a nylon material. It definitely won't breath like a mesh saddle. You should check out the Cruzr XC! It is my favorite saddle and is mesh.
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Great review, thanks.
Thank you Hunt & Sail! I appreciate you watching!
This was an amazing review!! Excellent work! Thank you!! Do you plan on doing a review on the Jx3 hybrid? I'd love to see it is so!!
Thank you, Constance! I appreciate the feedback! I have been talking to the owner of JX3 and plan to do a review in the near future! Stay tuned!
Without a doubt the most informative video iv seen thanks alot
Thank you for the feedback, Thomas! I truly appreciate that and I'm glad to help!
Great video, been doing so e research and want to get a tree saddle but didn't realize how many options were out there still I started researching, so great video, very informative and greatly appreciated. I'm torn between the phantom and the Eberhart saddle. Leaning towards the Eberhart cause it has more adjustability with the seat/saddle. They aren't super expensive but enough money that the wrong choice is a regret. Any extra input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
Welcome to saddle hunting, Chad! Great idea to research all your options before making a purchase.
I have used and own sling style saddles and single and double panel saddles and I personally wouldn't recommend a sling style saddle to a new guy. This is just my opinion but a sling style saddle is harder to use than a panel type saddle and there is a lot more fiddle factor. I have another review where I include the ESS and I have a spreadsheet in the description section that you can look at to see my pros and cons for each saddle. That may help you out as well.
Here is a link:
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@@madhuntsadventures thank you for the reply. So the tethrd ess is a sling style I'm guessing? I just like being able to have two panel or one. I have used a climbing tree stand for years and ladder stands I build myself. I have no problem sitting all day, if I'm comfortable, mostly why I build my own ladder stands. I do construction/ building so heights, harness and all that I'm not new to, just the hanging part. Any recommendations for a first one? Comfort most important and I think I'ld like the option of back support if wanted but wouldn't always use it. Weight isn't that important as going from a climber to saddle anything is going to be alot lighter. What would you recommend for a first saddle with that in mind? Thank you so much for getting right back to me, your the first and only one so far, of prolly 10 videos I commented on, greatly appreciated.
@@chadbinette3201 Yes the ESS is a sling style which takes more effort to use than a "panel" type saddle.
Comfort in a saddle is specific to each person so it's hard to pick one. I personally like the CRUZR XC, CRUZR Archon and Latitude Method as my top three saddles for comfort (and functionality) but there are several out there that are comfortable.
If you have the chance to check out Saddlehunter.com you could post a comment asking if anyone lives in your area that would be willing to meet up so that you could try out a saddle or two before you purchase one. If you don't have the ability to do that one of the saddles I mentioned would definitely be a great saddle to get into.
Hope that helps!
thank you for this review to sit in a saddle for one hour each for a video is a lot thank you sir!
Nicholas, you are welcome! Thank you for the feedback- I appreciate it! I love doing product reviews and helping out fellow hunters!
Loved your review. Thanks for all the hard work you put into it. If you get a chance would love to get a copy of the excel spreadsheet. Thanks!
Thank you, Mark! I really appreciate that! Send me an email to madhunts2@gmail.com and I'll get the spreadsheet to you.
Thanks for taking the time to do this.
Absolutely!
You put a lot of work into this and i found it very helpful. Thanks for the info!
The Real Life Hunters, thank you very much! I appreciate that! Glad it was helpful!
Now that you have made h2 for a while. Are you still sold. Thx for the video
Great question, Wade! To be honest, I had several guys asking to buy the H2 from me and I finally caved and sold it. I replaced it with the CRUZR XC and that has been my primary saddle.
I still think the H2 Slingshot (and the Hotshot) are great saddles for the money and pretty comfortable as well. You get a lot of bang for your buck with the H2.
This is the best review I have seen! Thank you for this content!
Thank you for the feedback, Jamin Klingensmith! I appreciate it and I'm glad it was helpful!
I have the new phantom and I noticed the cupping made a big difference when I switched from the middle to the lower setting and then got into the sitting position .. didn’t see if you had tried it sitting or just the leaning position
John, I tried many variations with the comfort channels and leaning/sitting. I definitely agree with you that the lower channel is the best for sitting.
Have you ever tested the latitude method? That’s the one I am most interested in, very good review, keep up good work.
Unfortunately I've not had the opportunity to review the Method yet! I have been communicating with Latitude but we've not been able to make it happen at this point. Thank you for the feedback on the review! I really appreciate it!
@@madhuntsadventures sounds good hope you can get it and do a review and compare to others.
@@larrybrown9301 I agree! Latitude was supposed to send me one to review but then they were really busy and we were having a hard time communicating and working it out. I'll be touching base with them again and I hope to make it happen!
Great Review. Just discovered this Saddle Hunting method and am looking into "Saddling Up" this 2021 season. Of the top I had estimated an initial cost of $300 - $400...I think my estimate might be a little low. Perhaps I will start with a modified Sit Drag...Do you have a video on your setup?
Welcome to saddle hunting, RRD! I actually don't have a video on my modified Sitdrag but I should do one! You'll still need to purchase all the ropes, carabiners, etc. but running a Sitdrag will save you on the cost of a saddle. That will also allow you to get a feel for it and help you decide what you're looking for.
Enjoy watching the video, definitely an all in one from the saddles I have been looking at. The only thing that I noticed was when you used the TrophyLine saddle, you didn’t have the Black Diamond Pearabiner carabiner that TrophyLine recommends for the 2” webbing. But overall, definitely one of the best review video.
Thank you for the feedback, Joseph! I appreciate that! You are correct, I did not have the recommended carabiner for the Trophyline but I didn't want to purchase one just for the review. Thanks again!
Very informative saddle video. I have never hunted from a saddle but I have been very curious about trying one. My wife told me to pick one out for my birthday in December so I have been watching video's to try and buy the right one for me. I am a small guy around 5ft. 6in. and 125 Lbs. I am looking for something that would be very easy to use since I have never been in one before and I need comfort since I am in my early 50's. I am leaning toward the H2 with the adjustable bridge after watching this video and others. Do you think it would be a good one for a beginner who only be sitting 4 hrs. at the most? Thanks for any feed back.
Hey, J Justice! Thank you for reaching out! ...and thank you for watching the video. Welcome to saddle hunting!
First of all, yes, the H2 saddle would be a great saddle for comfort in my opinion at a very reasonable price. There are other saddles that are comfortable as well and I've done additional reviews since this video was posted. Feel free to check them out on my channel. If I can answer any questions don't hesitate to ask! Take care!
@@madhuntsadventures Thanks so much for feed back. I did also watch the your one on the 2 panel saddles but I think I am still leaning toward the H2. It just looked like it would be more comfortable than those.
@@jjustice7429 Awesome! I hope you enjoy it! I've been impressed with the H2 saddles.
@@madhuntsadventures I really enjoy your videos they are especially helpful to someone who is looking to get into saddle hunting and trying to make the best purchase for their needs. I have decided on the H2 Slingshot with the TriAd bridge in Camo Tree Hunter Fabric as my first saddle. Hard to beat their price for what you get.
@@jjustice7429 Awesome! I know you're going to love it! Let me know what you think after using it for part of the season.
If it weren’t for the price would you have chosen the Phantom also the phantom makes an xl do you think it would have been better for you
Great question, Jason! I purchased the Phantom from an outdoor show and was able to try it on and test it for fit so I had the correct size for my build.
I had also already purchased all of the saddles and picked the H2 because I felt it was a better option due to the unlimited adjustable bridge. I wasn't a fan of the three settings offered with the Phantom and the one setting didn't hold very well. Also, they were a tie in comfort so I felt the H2 had a slight advantage. The price/savings with the H2 was a plus as well.
How do all these saddles compare in comfort to your sitdrag method? I'm asking how much difference in comfort is there? Great video presentation btw👍
Great question, Jb429421! Well I have to be honest and first say that my modified Sitdrag was pretty comfortable. Was it as comfortable as the H2, Cruzr XC, and Flex? I'd have to say no but it was pretty close. In addition, there are bigger differences that really make the difference. 1) You don't need a rock climbing harness paired with the Sitdrag. 2) A saddle is secure to your body and it includes the lineman loops. 3) A saddle has leg straps that hold it in place and a Sitdrag does not. 4) You don't have to continually adjust a saddle like you do a Sitdrag. 5) There is a peace of mind having one system that is completely safe over a DIY Sitdrag.
So is there a huge difference in comfort in a Sitdrag and a saddle? Yes and no. My Sitdrag was comfortable but I'd have to shift it and adjust it after a bit and I don't have to do that with a saddle that is held in place and secure to my body. Not to mention the ability to get comfortable because you feel safe and secure with a saddle is something you don't fully get with a DIY Sitdrag.
I hope that answered your question!
Wow,
Thanks for the detailed response. It is the exact information I was looking for. I can't express to you enough my appreciation for taking the time to lay it out like that.
Last year I hunted (3 sits) in a rch/sitdrag and really liked it. I've been primarily a climber hunter for the last 25 years and so I'm used to being very comfortable while on stand. I was comfortable last year but you always wonder what your missing out on going the less expensive rout.
The one part of your response I'm still trying to wrap my head around is #5. With the rch I used two prussics on my tether. A short one to the sitdrag bridge and a longer one to the belay on the rch set just long enough not to add pressure or restrict movement. In my head that seems more secure than the saddle as a rch is designed less so for comfort and more so for safety.
I guess in my head I'm trying to determine is the saddle worth spending the 💰 on. I know it saves the weight of the rch plus should be over all more comfortable. ....ahhh decisions decisions.
@@Jb429421 haha! We've all been there! Too many decisions for sure! No problem at all...I love helping fellow hunters!
Here's my thoughts on your dilemma, if you're comfortable in the rch and you feel safe with your current setup, then I'd say stick with it one more season and keep researching and looking at saddle reviews, etc. until you know for sure what you're looking for. It sounds like you're hitting the two main factors (safety and comfort) with your current setup so there's no reason to rush anything. There are guys who run the tag end of their tether to a belay loop or a D-ring Cobra buckle on their saddles so you have that as a backup as well. Just look into all the options and don't rush it. You don't want to regret a purchase.
Nice review!!! What pouches are you using, can you please supply a link
Chad, Thanks for the comment! I appreciate it! Here is the link to the pouches I'm running: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07K2322VB/
Great job. Appreciate the research and neutral evaluation.
Thank you, RedSox Fan! I appreciate that and I'm glad to help!
Thank you for putting in all the time for everyone to see each of these.
How much are you selling the phantom for?
Christopher J,
Thanks for the comment! I appreciate it! If you email me at madhunts2@gmail.com I can get you more information on the Phantom.
Which H2? Currently looking into them and theirs two different options? The one is $185 and another is $240? Something above $200. Just curious if I should go with the cheaper one or more expensive and why
Great question, Out Fishing Your Bass! In the Ultimate Saddle Review 2020 I was reviewing the H2 Slingshot saddle. However, I just released my Ultimate Saddle Reveiw 2.0 5 days ago and in that one I'm reviewing the H2 Hotshot.
Both are really nice saddles but the Hotshot has a mesh panel which is cooler during early season sits. I also upgraded the bridge to the Amsteel TriAd bridge on the Hotshot so the retail price is $227 plus shipping. However, I'm selling the Hotshot at a 10% discount if you're interested?
You can check out the video by clicking here...
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Did u get the jx3 hybrid yet to try??? I'm between that and phantom... would love review on that
Thanks for asking, Cody! Unfortunately I've not gotten one yet. I've talked with the owner several times and he was waiting for a shipment of supplies before getting one to me. I need to follow up with him. Thanks again for the reminder!
Aero hunter flex is the most comfortable saddle I’ve ever been in.
Kevin, I've never sat in the Flex but I did reach out to Aero Hunter in an effort to get one to review. I'm waiting to hear back. The Kite was very comfortable and I've heard the Flex is as well!
If I ordered a kit from one of these websites would it come with the lineman’s rope? Or is that always separate
Great question, Payton! All "kits" should come with your lineman's and tether ropes. You can look at each manufacturer's kit to see what is offered prior to making the purchase. Hope that helps!
awesome reviews man gonna get the phantom for the 2021 season.
Thank you, Chris! I appreciate the feedback! I hope you enjoy the Phantom!
Wow super helpful. Thanks
You got it, Dave! Glad to help!
awesome reviews! best I've seen yet! I do wish you'd have used and included the aero hunter kestrel.
Hey thanks, Kevin! I appreciate that! I did do a Kestrel Flex review just two weeks ago.
Great review! I'd like to hear your opinion on the Treehopper Recon Sling.
Thank you, Jayson! I appreciate that! Well I have a Recon review if you would like to see it:
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@@madhuntsadventures Ohhh man. I must have been tired when I left that comment. Your recon video is what swayed me to go with it. Haha Another great review! Just subbed.
@@jaysonallen3100 haha!! Awesome! Thank you for the support! It's appreciated!
Excellent video! Liked and subscribed! I look forward to checking out more of your content.
Thank you, Tom! I truly appreciate it! I'll have another saddle review up very soon. Stay tuned.
Noticed it looks chilly in your neck of the woods. I mostly hunt in warmer climates, where a breathable saddle would cause less sweating. It appears as though the Phantom is much more breathable than the H2. Is this true in your experience? TIA.
Great question, FrostyNugs! Two answers... 1) Yes I would have to say the Phantom is more breathable simply due to it having mesh and the H2 having cordura (I believe). 2) I don't know that the cordura causes that much more of an issue in breathability but if you're hunting in a warmer climate I guess it could be something to consider. Where I'm at it isn't really a concern.
Great job!!
Looks like I’m going with the H2
Also Michigan made.
Thanks, Brandon! I appreciate that! You won't be disappointed with the H2!
This is a great video with a ton of great information when your trying to decide which saddle to pick. Thank you for the video this helped a bunch.
Thanks for the comments, Joey! I appreciate that! Good luck and enjoy!
Great review. Making my decision now.
Thank you, Joe! Before you make a decision make sure you watch my other saddle reviews. I just released 4 new reviews on 12 new saddles to the market. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask! Take care.