Derek Shulman: Interview | 70s Prog Bands | The Beach Boys were *ssholes | Syd Barrrett & the Moles

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  • Derek Shulman speaks of the new Stephen Wilson remix of 'Interview', Jethro Tull's 'TAAB' and how The Beach Boys were a##holes 'who couldn't play their intruments' ... and the story of The Moles and Syd Barrett
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    Time Stamps
    00:00 - intro
    00:07 - Stephen Wilson
    01:48 - 'Interview'
    04:07 - 70s prog
    05:58 - TAAB
    07:46 - Following 'Free Hand'
    11:28 - remixing the early albums
    13:58 - Influence of Zappa
    15:27 - Tony Visconte
    17:53 - Counterpoint
    18:56 - Roger Dean & 'Octopus'
    20:29 - The Beach Boys
    23:37 - The Moles & Syd Barrett
    27:03 - Pete Townshend
    29:53 - Three Friends
    32:10 - Aquiring the Taste
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  • @sciwiz57
    @sciwiz57 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    It’s great that you interview these people and NEVER interrupt them-even when they run on a bit😊

    • @classicalbum
      @classicalbum  ปีที่แล้ว +11

      With Francis Rossi I can go and make a cup of tea while he's answering a question

  • @mr.bloodvessel260
    @mr.bloodvessel260 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    His insights into that period of time in the late 60’s and early 70’s are really profound!

  • @jamesmicucci7028
    @jamesmicucci7028 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for the Interview...My intro to GG was in 1974 with "The Power & The Glory" album I bought at my favorite imported vinyl record store at the time (in Meriden, CT, USA). So I had to work both backwards & forwards to hear & acquire their music. "Free Hand" was a pretty big hit here, and at my first GG concert, they opened for Rick Wakeman in October 1975 at Palace Theater, Waterbury, CT, on the accompanying tour. Couldn't get over how proficient each member was on a multitude of instruments, and the precision they exhibited collectively. I was also fortunate to catch them in 1977 at Yale, and on the last US tour in 1980, at Toad's Place, New Haven, where I sat about 20 feet from the stage (some of this was released by GG on a box set a few years ago. I'd love to get one.) Cheers.

  • @johnnyscarecrow71
    @johnnyscarecrow71 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What a fabulous interview, Barry. Derek is incredibly articulate, candid, and engaging. Loved this, even though I'm not a huge GG fan.

  • @sspbrazil
    @sspbrazil ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Another great interview Barry, it’s always good to hear Derek talk about these Steven Wilson remasters and remixes. Interview is strong album and one of my favorites by them. It would be great if the multitracks could be found for In a Glass House, I agree with Derek, that is such a pinnacle album for GG.

  • @RAFchurchlawford4469
    @RAFchurchlawford4469 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Derek Victor Shulman (born 11 February 1947) is a Scottish musician and singer, multi-instrumentalist, and record executive. From 1970 to 1980, he was lead vocalist for the band Gentle Giant. (Wikipedia)

  • @davidsimon2096
    @davidsimon2096 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Excellent interview-thanks. Pity about In A Glass House - that is the ONE album by GG which really could have benefitted from a Stephen Wilson remix or remaster.

  • @simonjones8111
    @simonjones8111 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great to hear a hero describe what I grew up with, 15 in 1969, totally absorbed in what is now termed Prog. From memory, Yes, ELP and Genesis were termed “pomp-rock”, Floyd, Tull and GG were individual entities. Great interview.

    • @UCS0608
      @UCS0608 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Back in the day (1971 and after) in the Netherlands we called bands like Gentle Giant, Genesis, Yes, Camel etc "symphonic rock".

  • @shipsahoy1793
    @shipsahoy1793 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Well, I’m not familiar with Gentle Giant over here, but that was a great interview. I’m going to have to try to find and check out some of their music..
    I’ve heard of them years ago, but I guess they were below the radar for me back in the day .. but Derek is straight up realistic. I enjoyed the interview.👨🏻

  • @davidcooper8621
    @davidcooper8621 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent interview with an interesting guy. who was both honest and unsentimental about the period and his career.

  • @Mr3Submarine
    @Mr3Submarine ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a great interview with Derek Shulman! Thank you Barry for getting him. I’m a big Gentle Giant fan, although I discovered the band’s music after they broke up. I’m saddened that they never reunited, but they live on through their wonderful recorded work. At least the band members like Derek continue to oversee their music catalog and are happy to reflect on the band’s music. The music of Gentle Giant lives on! Thank you Derek for doing this interview. Great to see you. I’ll always enjoy Gentle Giant’s albums. 🙂

  • @pkats9093
    @pkats9093 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That was great! Too short, but great! Well done.
    Power and glory probably my favorite. I think I’ll go put the record on right now actually.
    Their music was already very well recorded IMO. I will have to check out the Steven Wilson versions

    • @jimhardiman3836
      @jimhardiman3836 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Steve Wilson's remix of Power And The Glory really breathes some light, space and clarity to what I think was a rather cold and impenetrable production. Brilliant!

  • @michaelbaucom4019
    @michaelbaucom4019 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Superb. Thanks for not interrupting too much( a pet peeve I have with 99% of these type of shows)

  • @bennyscomin
    @bennyscomin ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I could see Mike and Dennis being assholes, but Al always was, and is a class act.......him and Carl were the glue that kept the other two assholes in line during that era

  • @davidmontgomery5047
    @davidmontgomery5047 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Been a Fan since around '74 ,I never heard them on the Radio in Colorado Springs ,Wish I would have . Saw them Open for Yes on the Interview Tour ,Fantastic Show !!!

  • @filosphere
    @filosphere ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much Derek! I'm a huge fan of GG, and you asked good questions to this so humble and clever man. His favorite GG cover album is Octopus, and his favorite GG album is Power and Glory, it confirms my own tastes.

  • @UncleTonyGuitar
    @UncleTonyGuitar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great interview, Barry, congrats! And as others have already noted, I thank you for not interrupting. That’s rare. ~ The problem with remixes/remasters is that most likely they *will* sound better now, but whether or not you’re tampering with the magic that has made them last 40 or 50 years remains to be seen.

  • @stephenwaters1242
    @stephenwaters1242 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoyed the interview ( lol) Derek is a real down to earth man,I never heard of the Giant, I saw them on BBC sight and sound in77 and I became a fan of them and bought all their albums. Like your videos.

  • @Baz63
    @Baz63 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    can anyone explain why the album 'interview' is spelt 'in'terview' on the album cover?

  • @stevedotwood
    @stevedotwood ปีที่แล้ว

    Quite an interview. I was entertained. Great questions.

  • @robinjonesguitar
    @robinjonesguitar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Need more great interview, Barry do one on missing piece onwards the dawn of punk and end of prog those last three albums fascinating to hear from his perspective 😀

  • @murdockreviews
    @murdockreviews ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great interview!!

  • @craigbalcom
    @craigbalcom ปีที่แล้ว

    Great interview, thank you.

  • @jason698
    @jason698 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would love to be personal Friends with Derek. He's just a down-to-earth gental man. (Pun intended) I would love to pick his brain about all the great albums and his career and his life outside of music.

  • @shipsahoy1793
    @shipsahoy1793 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I hold extremely high regard for the UK version tracks of Revolver and Rubber Soul, and I wouldn’t redo a thing. The only improvement “maybe” would be to include the tracks from the singles released (at around that time that go with those albums) as bonus tracks. 👨🏻
    Edit: Yes, even the tracks with Ringo on vocals somehow fit.

    • @Clive697
      @Clive697 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even the execrable tracks with Ringo on vocals?

  • @larryzigler6812
    @larryzigler6812 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Went to a GG concert in Anaheim 74 or 75 JUST FABULOUS !!!!!!!!!!! ☮☮💘💘

  • @alfietomkins7829
    @alfietomkins7829 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great interview, always nice to hear from Derek Shulman. Barry have you or would you do a Gentle Giant album ranking

  • @adamphillips6865
    @adamphillips6865 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent questions! To Derek: GG fans would love surround versions of all the albums even if it means venturing into extrapolation of stereo mixes.

    • @ignatiusjackson235
      @ignatiusjackson235 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      GG Allin fans? Surround sound? Does that record throw shit at you?

  • @peterivers2
    @peterivers2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They were an amazing band, unique, no one else like them, even among the other prog bands.

  • @paulovajao
    @paulovajao ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great interview it could be an album ;)

  • @wsc1955
    @wsc1955 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was 16 and first heard " Octopus " on my PBS radio. Then started collecting , Eventually , 10 albums. Btw, how did they have time to write being on tour so much?

  • @slowmarchingband1
    @slowmarchingband1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like this series where you interview musicians and ask them about Jethro Tull.. 😁

    • @classicalbum
      @classicalbum  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It has to be done... yet ironically, I should interview Ian Anderson and don't mention Jethro Tull

  • @user-cj4df7vs7w
    @user-cj4df7vs7w ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great frontman.

  • @Z-eb
    @Z-eb ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe it all was a blessing with the time-restraint during "Interview" cause it seems they had "forever" (considering it was the late 70s) to do "The Missing Piece" which is half a masterpiece and half a turd imho

  • @Nacho_F
    @Nacho_F ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Beach Boys could be an a**holes (specially Mike Love) at that period but certainly they were one of the most influential and innovative bands of all time. In 1967, members like Dennis and Carl Wilson didn't developed at all their songwriting and musical skills like the subsequent years specially the first half of the seventies.

  • @brucybabyy7355
    @brucybabyy7355 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    well done, son!

  • @germanissimo
    @germanissimo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your having tagged "Thick as a Brick" as being the original prog.rock album in 1972, got me thinking! ..... Might it be too outrageous a suggestion that instead, the Beatles' "Sgt. Pepper" might actually occupy this place in musical history?

    • @classicalbum
      @classicalbum  ปีที่แล้ว

      TAAB is in part a bit of a send up of prog - so it is not the 'original' prog album. Check out my videos of the origins of prog, which of ocuse must feature the fab four

    • @wsc1955
      @wsc1955 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A very early " prog " group that no one has heard of that need mentioning is " Touch". Of course, when we start trying to label music, we're missing the point.

  • @simonboyers4917
    @simonboyers4917 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Best Bands in the World ever, according to me: 1. Frank Zappa 2. Jethro Tull 3. Steely Dan 4. Gentle Giant 5. Rush

  • @shipsahoy1793
    @shipsahoy1793 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think it was sort of intended to be a parody of the “social climate” at the time, but it was definitely a concept, no matter how you slice it; regardless of what Ian says lol

    • @classicalbum
      @classicalbum  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ian has never said TAAB wasn't a concept album

    • @shipsahoy1793
      @shipsahoy1793 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@classicalbum then I must’ve misunderstood the dialogue. What was it that Ian changed his mind about that you and Derek were talking about.. I don’t have time to rewatch the video; apparently I misunderstood something while multitasking.👨🏻

  • @MrVenom5150
    @MrVenom5150 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gentle Giant has a Rainbow logo now?

    • @classicalbum
      @classicalbum  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      LOL... I never thought of it like that. I just thought how colourful.

    • @bennyscomin
      @bennyscomin ปีที่แล้ว

      Good god man, hide your children!

  • @shipsahoy1793
    @shipsahoy1793 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Beach Boys were f** terrible!
    All the those albums and all those “fabricated” hits in the ‘60’s were bloody trash. Unfathomable! They get the prize for garnering the greatest amount of fame and being the least deserving of it! 👨🏻

    • @jordymaas565
      @jordymaas565 ปีที่แล้ว

      what's the time Den....

    • @davidlee6720
      @davidlee6720 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      don't think Macca would agree with you ! He should know. I remember doing summer seasons down Cornwall when that music first came out - what memories! such tremendous tunes! I only have to hear one of those magical songs and I am right back there on the beach. Happy times indeed! Such beautiful girls! Baggies, surfboards, the lot!

    • @Clive697
      @Clive697 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad someone else has said it. Brian Wilson did cobble together a few astonishing 'serious' tracks like Heroes and Villains, Surf's Up and the kooky A Day in the Life of a Tree, but the bulk of their output was bubblegum pop - and repetitive tunes and themes at that.

    • @shipsahoy1793
      @shipsahoy1793 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davidlee6720 😵‍💫🤔Personally, I don’t care if McCartney agrees or not, he’s got his opinions, I’ve got mine. I’ll agree that that they were able to write some ballads and their vocal harmonies are good, but leave all the instrument playing to them, and you have a bad band, just as mentioned in this interview. They are essentially the Monkees, but without the same caliber of writing that the Monkees were graced with from other professional writing teams.👨🏻

    • @jimmycampbell78
      @jimmycampbell78 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Barbara Anne is one of the most irritating songs of all time, I dare anyone to stick it on repeat and not get thoroughly sick of it eventually. It’s one of my cannot bear it songs, I never need to hear it every again.

  • @awrogers3013
    @awrogers3013 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pinned him from question one. What a bs answer that SW can mystically know exactly what the combination of these guys wanted when they recorded it.
    I’m shutting it off after that question thanks for the most important up front.
    I love DS and GG but what a liar, completely impossible to be true. Completely impossible
    I guess they have to be on their knees in the position they’re in.
    They should do a reunion tour GG featuring SW…let him decide everything.
    What a disappointment..DS didn’t have to serve up the steaming plate to do this interview.obviously he thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room.
    Poppycock…