ELON MUSK IS CONFUSED WITH CHINA & CCP. CHINESE & COMMUNIST CHINA. NO ORDINARY FOLKS CAN BE THE MEMBERS OF CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY. VERY SELECTIVE ELITES. CCP HIJACKS CHINA & KIDNAPS OVER 1 BILLION CHINESE SLAVES. IF ELON MUSK KNOWS MORE HISTORY OF CULTURAL REVOLUTION FROM 1960-70s, HOW TRADITIONAL CHINESE CULTURE BE DESTROYED. THEN, WE KNOW MORE WHY CCP IS SO BRUTAL & AGGRESSIVE TO INVADE & DESTROY AMERICA, & THEY EVEN WANT TO DOMINATE THE WORLD. CAN YOU SEE THE OLDER GENERATION IN POWER STILL HOLD THE EMPEROR MINDSETS TO CONTROL PEOPLE IN 21st CENTURY BUT THEY DONT REALLY UNDERSTAND DEMOCRACY, HUMAN RIGHTS, JUSTICE. THEY ARE ANTI GOD. THEY THINK THEY ARE BIGGER THAN GOD. CAN YOU SEE CCP PARTY IS ABOVE EVERYTHING. ABOVE THE LAW. THE WHOLE SYSTEM HAS NO CHECK & BALANCE. .........................
The real reason the USA has been talking tough about China the last few years is because China released the digital currency. The USA establishment feels threatened by the digital Yuan. The digitial Yuan transfers faster and easier than regular USD money transfers. The USA does everything it can to protect the use of the USD for global trade. Even invading countries that have tried to move away from USD for trading oil. The USA maintains a trade deficit, which can only be possible if everyone keeps using the USD.
Honestly I seen so many AI videos of Elon Musk so it’s hard to believe he is real or not in this video. He was advertising a fake trading bot 2 days ago. 😂
I knew an elderly gentleman that fought in the German army in WW2. His company surrendered to the Americans. He said they were so happy it was Americans and not Russians.
I don't think its reliable to believe what a german said who fought against americans in WW2, ofcourse he would say he favors Americans, because Germany lost the war, and didn't wanted to be purged by Americans lol, If Russia took over Germany, I bet you that German soldier would have said the same but in favor of Russia 😂
Given what the Germans did in the Soviet Union vs what they did the US I'm sure he is glad. Germany openly committed war crimes all over the USSR thinking the same would never happen to them... till it did.
Well yeah, america joined the war late as always.. Russians lost more than any other nation in the war.. Canadians are the worst though.. most unethical war crime connoisseurs to ever walk the planet
@@greywolf2622 The truth triggers you .I get it. If you have any facts to disprove what I said. let's hear it then ?. You don't have any because America is not an empire. Countries want American protection that's why they allow bases there.
USA did rebuild several battered countries like Germany and Japan, and even south Korea, but the US did it for itself. All three countries are completed under the USA. The US jas many military bases in these making sure they are under its sphere of influence.
Yeah but ask those countries, they want the US there…because they have big scary neighbors who are likely to treat them worse. Japan, Korea and German all want to stay under the US umbrella, because they get protection from it from Russia and China.
@@jxmai7687 yeah with a huge amount of American help. You think they would have been able to rebuild if the US did not send foot to prevent starvation and famine? Yes they rebuilt their own nations with huge support and aid…now a few (China,Russia) want to revise history and pretend they were not helped out massively. Sad. We Americans still remember that the French helped us out to gain independence from Britian.
@@davidradtke160 what you on about, if I know anyone think like you I woun't accept such help, many those so call help have their agenda and benifit, they are not free help, I could see them as exchange of benifit. I still remember the “help” to Iraq by USA and its accomplice.
Something Trump said that I genuinely agree with: "The US, and China, together, could solve all of the world's problems." China isn't really an enemy. China models themselves off of the United States. Imitation is flattery. A rival, sure, but there's no hate between us. We should collaborate.
Ridiculous, the CCP is an enemy of the U.S. They are fast trying to conquer the world. China goaded N. Korea to attack the South and when the South with the help of the U.S. recovered, and pushed toward the Yalu River, they intervened with thousands of troops. The governments of China and Russia are U.S. nemesis.
@@Lucidveinhe's a very dumb guy. The Tesla company was built by 2 American engineers and then he took credits for that.😫😩👎👎 He didn't even know how to save those kids trapped in the cave in Thailand, remember. He suggested to use submarines to rescuing them even though the water is so shallow, remember 😀😄😄👎👎
@@James8591 I don't think it's fair to come him a dumb guy. I don't like him, but he is clearly intelligent. I enjoy the companies he has set up, I just dislike his personality.
About 4 years ago, I moved to a place right next to an airport. I noticed several Cessnas doing "touch and goes" from sunup to sundown, day after day without a break. I wondered why they were so busy. The mystery was solved when I took the daily bus which stopped at the same airport. I was the only Caucasian on the bus. Almost everyone else was Chinese. I found out, from one of the people sitting next to me, that they were all flight school students, learning to fly jets. I thought it was extremely odd that our country would, one hand, call China the enemy, and on the other hand, train the Chinese people to fly jets, which I assumed would be passenger jets...but I kept remembering the F22s that were obviously practicing at that same airport.
As an American citizen I have nothing but respect and admiration for the Chinese people. We should always be friends and there is nothing but love here!!
@@potatonoodlebear8035 We are not friends, we have never been friends and we never will be friends. The Chinese and citizens of these united states are like oil and water. Our cultures are nowhere near compatible.
After 1788 Britain turned Australia into the World’s largest prison, a whole Continent. Therefore during WW1, Australia voted in two Referendums NOT to introduce Conscription to provide military aid for Britain. During WW1, all Australian Forces had joined voluntarily.
Bull. South Australia was a third of the continent without transportation. Conscription was irrelevant to transportation; the vote against it was simply that Australia was engaging in war as the only complete democracy to fight in WWI, as no other country had universal representation. The constitution prevented conscription for fighting overseas and that is the essence of a democracy, something that was unheard of at the time, let alone today. Besides, 10% of the population volunteered to form the only all volunteer national force from any country, and that was as much as any country can afford, particularly as an Australian infantryman was paid the same as a British junior officer.
Competing with a country 4 times your population, with equivalent IQ levels and working even harder than you, is a very bad odd. The US is holding its edge so far mostly because of starting early and the open society that foster innovation. The US needs to make very good use of the technological advantages that still exist, especially AI, automation and robotics, to offset the number advantage of China. Humanity needs a strong and open country to lead the way forward to space.
America Chas fallen behind in education. I think it was the head of Apple or one of the American giants of industry said. If you organised a meeting of engineers in America today you would hardly beget enough to fill a room, if you organised a meeting in China you would have to hire a stadium. Those words are not verbatim and may be an exaggeration but you get the picture
As an employer I hired many types for my 40 years of management. Early on I discover the Asian work ethic. What is that? Honest, collaborative, intelligent, loyal and diligent. Eventually if there was an Asian applicant I just hired them. To this day I admire their family unity and emphasis upon education!
@ You suggest I spend a week in Vietnam. I was an Executive in Saigon for eight months. My Company specializes in airport/runway lighting. Under my “direct z” was approximately 1500 employees. I divided them into three administrative divisions: Vietnamese/Chinese, Filipinos and Expatriates. The most unreliable were the Expatriates. The Filipinos had to be skilled tested as they claimed false credentials. The only group cooperating and reliable were the Chinese. I left due illness.
This statement makes no sense. Which global car maker only build cars in their home country, and which American car company doesn’t have a plant in China? It’s business. California literally drove him out of the state, and the US government shunned him for not using the union. What would you do when the second largest country offers to make what you need for half the cost?
What Elon Musk said about America and China is true. Historically, China has rarely acted as an empire that aggressively conquered other nations, especially compared to Western powers. Meanwhile, after World War II, the United States, despite its immense power, played a key role in helping to rebuild nations, including Germany and Japan-two of the main perpetrators during the war. This is an unprecedented act in history. For comparison, when the Romans defeated Carthage, their primary rival at the time, they destroyed the city completely and even salted the earth to prevent its resurgence (Polybius, Histories; Appian, The Punic Wars). While it's true that America has also committed questionable acts throughout history, no empire has ever existed without engaging in morally complex or outright harmful actions. However, the Marshall Plan and efforts to rebuild Japan stand as extraordinary examples of post-war reconstruction. A recent experience teaching in Japan highlighted some of these ideas. In one of my classes, there were two Japanese students-a man and a woman-and a Chinese woman. The Japanese students commented negatively about Donald Trump, criticizing his policies and leadership during his first presidency and expressing concerns about his new proposed policies. Surprisingly, the Chinese woman expressed positive views about Trump. This led to a historical discussion where I explained why some of Trump’s comments about China, especially regarding trade imbalances, intellectual property issues, and economic policies, might make sense in a broader context. Interestingly, the Japanese woman reacted strongly, attempting to paint China as an imperialistic power both historically and in modern times. The tension escalated, and the Japanese man even reported to the staff, claiming I wasn’t focused on teaching English and instead turned the session into a free-talk lesson. He also accused me of being uninterested in helping him personally. Despite this, the Chinese student continued taking my lessons, and we’ve had open, fact-based discussions on a variety of topics. The irony is that I didn’t initiate the political conversation-the Japanese students brought it up with negative comments about Trump and seemingly expected me to agree. I couldn’t help but notice the double standard: had I criticized a Japanese leader like Shinzo Abe, I might have been labeled as anti-Japanese.
US rebuilt those countries but benefited immensley from both the rebuild and subsequent governments they helped establish. Dont be quick to assume it was an act of victor’s goodwill.
@@charleswomack2166 Mongolia became Chinese because the Mongols conquered China, not the other way around, Tibet was conquered by the Qing, Manchus who conquered China, Xinjiang the same, China expanded through its conquerors who assimilated themselves because Chinese culture is superior, not by conquering itself.
Most of the time when I ask people if they are comfortable in our American-made/managed World they respond with powerfully positive emotional responses such as joyful tearfelt, unanimous: "Americans are Incredibly kind, sexy and wickedly wealthy... The country oozes geopolitically financial might and sex appeal. Lady Liberty gotta single fran???"
I've never had a problem with China. we grew up with them in Canada in the 80s and 90s. I believe we got along was because the disiplent we had in a first world country. I believe we all need each other's. Not firat place or second
@@JohnLee-ip4ul The Chinese government is born from the Chinese people, let's stop this nonsense that makes people believe that the leaders of a country fall from the sky, they are born from the people, from this culture, from this civilization.
Since WWII, the U.S. has been involved in numerous regime changes, wars, and color revolutions to protect its strategic and economic interests. Key examples include coups in Iran (1953) and Guatemala (1954), the Bay of Pigs in Cuba (1961), and support for the overthrow of leaders in Chile (1973) and Congo (1960). The U.S. was also deeply involved in Vietnam, Cambodia, Afghanistan, and Nicaragua, often supporting insurgent groups. More recently, the U.S. played roles in the 2003 Iraq invasion, the 2011 NATO intervention in Libya, and support for opposition in Syria and Venezuela. Color revolutions in Eastern Europe, like Ukraine's 2014 Euromaidan, are also linked to U.S. influence. These interventions often destabilized regions, leading to long-term conflicts and power vacuums. I think this more than offsets the "conspicuous acts of kindness" they may have exhibited during WWII. Their behavior in recent times has been trending towards the tyrannical so I think Musk is definitely being biased and cherry picking his arguments in this case.
And Russia has been involved in way more regime changes, revolutions and genocidal wars, it's very confusing the point you're trying to make but glad I could clarify it
@@patrickfitzpatrick1600 my pleasure comrad! Russia was involved in pretty much all colonial wars, providing weapons to militias - all the while Russia is one of the largest colonoziers and is yet to give independence to its colonies. When do you think that will happen? Then of course lets not forget the invasion of Moldova, Georgia, Chechnya (with the horrific genocide of the Chechens), and of course Ukraine. Russia was deeply involved in Vietnam, Afghanistan, and is currently financing neo nazi groups across the globe, and terrorist groups in Africa. Every coup in Africa had the backing of Russia - why are they trying this new form of colonialism? Who knows... Of course all of these interventions destabilized whole regions and continents, and one of the reasons why so many countries wanted, and want to join NATO.
@@serdaravsar5181 but their dynasty changes many times! Ottoman empire have only one dynasty, lasted for 500years, i think that's longest dynasty. There will be many civil wars during that long time. Many many civil wars! bloody civil wars when dynasty change or the form of government group change
Thucydides trap only work if both party had the same core interest (backyard). China and US is too far apart to engage in confrontation. US and USSR had a stronger rivalry than US and China yet they never went to war. this is because both side has plenty of room to grow and they are busy dominating their region. despite USSR and US establish alliances that border each other, those alliances never went to war. rather the 3 signature wars of the cold war was korea, vietnam and afghanistan, all of which are far from their alliance and core territories. in fact this mirrors what we see today with Ukraine and Israeli being wars that are as far from Beijing and Washingston as possible. so I actually don't see there being a risk of war. WWI and WWII is largely started by as a fight for dominance over europe by european powers. US was powerful but US didn't go around starting WWI and WWII...
@@lagrangewei That would be true if only geographic proximity was inconsideration. Unfortunately the US with its Monroe doctrine massively overreaches its influence, a trend that is increasing with NATO expansion and efforts to establish an Asian NATO pushes closely onto China's sphere of influence. This is clearly visible by the presence of US military bases surrounding China. The U.S. push to expand NATO into Asia mirrors the principles of the Monroe Doctrine, which sought to assert U.S. dominance by limiting foreign influence in the Western Hemisphere. Similarly, expanding NATO into Asia reflects America's modern strategy to extend its geopolitical influence and contain rival powers like China and Russia in critical regions. Both policies aim to consolidate U.S. control over global security dynamics and prevent adversaries from gaining influence in key strategic areas. We are definitely all at risk if they continue down this path to remain the worlds hegemonic power!
I disagree on overbuilding infrastructure and not accepting imports from other countries, it can in the future not be enough money to keep maintenance of these new infrastructure! At one point what is happening in the USA, good infrastructure is expensive to maintain
German officers were held captive in the southwest U.S. during WWII. A German Officer got hold of a map, saw a river on the map, made an inflatable raft and set off to escape. What he found out was that there are no rivers of any real sufficiency to float a raft in the Mojave Desert....just dry riverbeds. When he realized he messed up, he went into a nearby town. After getting there, he was fed by civilians who knew from the accent he was German. They fed him and eventually he turned himself in to the local authorities and stated that Americans were great people!
“Dictator” gets a bad rap in a democratic society. Satya Nadella and even Steve Jobs were CEOs that dictated their companies to success. Xi wants whats best for his country and will lead it to prosperity. We can go on about his record of treatment of Muslims Uighyrs and maybe Tibetans but that’s like if people started criticizing racism in this country, coups in Latin America started by US politicians, how the US sells weapons to countries to fight in wars. Example Israel.
Actually, the only countries that captured others in WWII with the intention to rebuild them to be independent countries were Australia and America, it is rare.
China is NEWER than the US. That means everything they have they built is in the last 30 years or so. This is why the US and Europe have changed so much since the 40s. Europe had to be rebuilt and the US grew very fast so, lots of building.
We had enough trouble occupying Iraq and Afghanistan. We have enough trouble managing our own cities. Perhaps we can conclude that we really do not know what we are doing, or are not really good at it.
We are the best at it. Our population is no longer invested in Imperialism. To be successful we need the whole nation on board. America could have took the world over after WW2, we were the only country with a nuke. We could have installed bases in every nation. And made them satellite states that reported to us. But we didn’t. Who knows why the U.S. fumbled world domination.
that's because it has always been British Empire affairs and somehow UK manipulated the US and USSR to save its empire... I mean if Hitler teamed up with Stalin to take Poland, why did UK only declare war on Hitler? US been neutral but, UK promised them the world as they take the back seat..
Try this thought experiment about one world government. Let's say 10 satellite and cable companies are competing for your hard earned dollar . How do they treat you? What prices do they charge for their services? Are they trying really are hard to keep you as a customer? Do they treat you well ? Is the price fair ? Now imagine only one cable or satellite service in your area and ask all the same questions again.
What sparks the war isn't important. What is important is how the fire was slowly built to engulf at a single spark. If the ground is highly flammable it will always burn because the spark will always come eventually.
Elon said some well thought out points here, I don't know how well it (or the rest of the west) will deal with China being more powerful than any of them.
The reason Taiwan is not part of China is not because of the United States, it is because the people of Taiwan don't want to be reunited with China; and that is mainly because of the heavy-handed and brutal actions of the Chinese government. The Chinese government, with their actions in Hong Kong, lost a great opportunity to move towards reunification with Taiwan.
Stop spreading lies. I think you're either a child who hasn't ween out of milk yet or intentionally spread misinformation. Hong Kong is doing great despite UK and USA meddling it internal affair.
If California wanted independence because they don't like us government will you give them independence, no, of course, so why Taiwan has a right you don't even give to your own people?
The key phrase in describing Chinese is “they have alot of energy”…. This is because they are very healthy mind, body and spirit. They have a strong family support structure. In the US everything is broken and poison from our food supply, mental health, medicine, education, family life… everything
If the U.S. would have continued to focus on the U.S. and not over reaching and spending, we could still be the biggest kid on the block. Instead we decided to implement Socialism to all Americans and every immigrant from every country near and far. Any idea why we’re broke and every day born Americans ( myself included)are working 2 jobs to survive. Makes me sick!!!!! 😤
I’m a number one fan of Elon, but I don’t buy his reasoning regarding the US and China adversarial relations since Elon got a conflict of interest, he is deeply invested in China
He is just being a realist. China has far surpassed US in terms of infra/transportation, while their technology in any fields are on par if not better with US now. US really needs to step up in order to maintain its power. US is by far leading with its military might. But then for how long? China's rise is inevitable. It is up to US to decide whether it wants to stay on top with China (If no war between the 2 nation will occur) or to decline while China surpasses it. But one thing if for sure. They both need to coexist cuz if not, We are all f*cked..
China isn't Athen. and US isn't Sparta. China was one of the 5 major victor of WWII together with USSR, China has always been a great power even when it was weak. furthermore the confrontation between US and USSR was far more serious than that of US and China, if US and USSR didn't fight even when the 2 has military alliance against each other, the likelihood for US fighting China is actually far lower than that. in fact I argue that historically global power avoid each other, in the cold war, most of the fighting is undertaken far from moscow and washington: in Korea, in Vietnam, in Afghanistan. why this is so is because global power like Russia, China and US are physically far apart, and their core interest lies closer to their surrounding than something happening half the world away, whereas Sparta and Athen were competing for the same backyard, they had the same core interest which is unlike the global powers of today. this is why the Ukraine war make sense in a world where China and US are the leading powers, because Ukraine is as far away from Washingston and Beijing as you can get, from China and US prespective it is better for EU and Russia to exhaust each other than for US and China to hurt each other. there is actually logic to this madness. the same is with the Israeli wars. so I actually do not think that war between US and China is at all likely. despite all the hype about Taiwan, Taiwan is simply not US core interest. US is more likely to just bomb TSMC to prevent it capture by China than to bother with attempting to save it which would result in China bombing TSMC to prevent a US rescue. so both side would destroy Taiwan than to allow Taiwan become a point of conflict between them. strategic liability should not be confuse for strategic asset, Taiwan is a liability to whoever control it since it is easier to destroy it than to occupy it.
I'd agree if we wait about a decade or two once semi conductors have been taken away from Taiwan. If china attacks Taiwan right now 90% of the most advanced semi conductors will stop being produced.
Are you serious right now? Do they have history books where you come from? You understand 5 years after the end of WW2 Americans marines were stacking Chinese soldiers ten high in the battle of the Chosen valley during the Korean War. The only reason the war was halted at the 38th parallel was due to massive Chinese attrition, the Chinese have even recently made major production films of this and other battles from this Era. There 900k Chinese soldiers killed during this war, arguably more than the actual WW2 period given the entire casualty numbers are unknown and derived from the Japanese invasion/occupation lasting more than a decade beforehand.
Taiwan is more than chips. It's an opening for their navy to escape the first island chain as well as a deep sea port for their navy. It's absolutely critical if they wish to expand their influence deeper into the Pacific it also allows them to create a choke point to 1/3 of Maritime trade. With their actions towards the phillipenes and ignoring their neighbors economic zones you can't think that letting them take Taiwan will sate their expansionist dreams. If you don't believe me look at the new 10 dash line map they just discovered.
The century of humilation wasnt a fluke… their culture is egotisical and closed minded to the rest of the world. Not industrializing when they should have got them in big trouble and they haven’t fostered good relationships with its neighbors.
An incredibly weak Argument, the origin of the US is largely European...Is Europe 400yrs old? China rise is largely due being Cheap labour. 90% of their 'innovations' are stolen from American and European companies. With Infrastructure they learned from Europeans and American Architects and so on. Yes the New Kid on the block is big but lets not make up stuff here.
my grandpa was an american pow outside berlin. when the russians broke through, him and his crew all hid because they were afraid they were going to be put into the red army.
China is inquisitive. They are not just threatening Taiwan. He forgot the Philippines and Japan and Vietnam and others. If America was not there to keep them in check they would already own them.
China after WW2 was in ruins. As a Chinese American, I know the Chinese were wondering what went wrong. We are indeed inquisitive. Yes they tried to spread Communism, but that’s only a political and economic system that Mao thought was right. Elon Musk already said the infrastructure of China under the Communists surpasses anything the US has.
Wait wtf are you smoking?? Imperial japan invaded China and slaughtered over 30 million Chinese! If China wanted to annex and colonized their neighbors they would have done it thousands of years ago but they never did. Vietnam is an expansionist communist regime, they’re colonized Laos, Cambodia, and wanted to invade thailand until China stopped in. China has not done squat to the Philippines! Did you forget Spain and USA invaded and colonized the Philippines. China had never colonized and invaded the Philippines through out the thousands of years being neighbors.
What you're forgetting is, all the countries you mentioned are at odds by aligning to US which is also trying to contain China. Does China want South China Sea for the rich resources? Yes, they do, but so does everyone else. Look at the overlapping claims between all the nations involved. It's a fight for resources which requires military fight unless all of them are willing to resolve diplomatically.
Read the history, and understand why most countries have One China policy, Taiwan is part of China, even Taiwan's constitution says that. those countries also have border disbute with other countries.
Musk talked about POW of America and Russia in ww2, he forgot about how many Russians had died and how many Americans died. Take that into account then you can compared the behaviour.
Yes but that was just as much Stalin's fault as it was Hitler's. Stalin treated his people like cattle or chickens for slaughter. The Russians and Germans both were brutal. So were the Japanese. And later wars the Chinese and North Vietnamese were brutal as well. And by the way, those 800 bases all across the world, those countries willing gave us access to those bases. The United States did not take them by force and actually any country that doesn't want the U.S. there can actually evict the U.S. If they want.
The Japanese attack on Pearl harbor that started WWII for the U.S. was over sanctions the U.S. placed on Japan for invading China. U.S. troops fought and died on Chinese land to free that country, American blood is in China's soil. After the war the U.S. played little part in how China formed its own government even though they could have influenced it greatly. They remember who we are and what we did for them.
Hstorically, loads of bull. USA absolutely extended its influence over all states that was able to, via Marshall Plan and NATO founding. The game was just played in two: see Korea, once upon a time that state was united. Secondly, Axis guys preferred to surrender to Americans because, Hello? Germany had just targeted the entirety of the slav world with an attempt to reduce it whole into slavery, following the Lebensraum and Ubermensch doctrines. But I will concede, the guy is onto something with the unprecedented acts of kindness strategy and belief in the good heart of the next guy. Marshall Plan was... also an extension of influence. Economy isn't zero sum, and people can be thankful to you to do something in your interest. The new cold war is already there, it's not a matter to avoid it. But to survive it. We should aim to actually build peace.
"The US has not been acquisitive." - an astoudingly ridiculous thing to say, or the context is so narrow as to be intentionally misleading. "...generally a benevolent force." - I get it, Lex must've slipped Elon an e.
The only territory that the US has acquired since WW2 is a million square miles of ocean, claimed last year. And also, since WW2 the US gave up the Philippines.
@@thomassenbart US has annexed swathes of Syria's oil producing land for years; has leashed S.Korea for decades. Either Musk doesn't read everything, or has selective bias, or he's pushing agenda. Musk's wealth relies on a bouyant NYSE.
It may be argued that historically, China has not been culturally oriented in imposing its hegemony beyond the Sinic regional sphere; it seems quite plausible to extend this observation to the present scheme, and conclude that despite its impressive recent economic and military ascendancy, China still has no global “acquisitive” designs - but that matters not at all because the United States is nothing if not an acquisitive power, and will under no circumstances tolerate the rise of any regional hegemon that could pose a potential challenge to its strategic security interests anywhere in the world. The Chinese, of course, are fully aware of this fact - as is everyone else - ergo, conflict between the United States and any other rising regional power (including China) is inevitable: THAT is the true ΘΟΥΚΥΔΙΔΗΣ trap...
I do not agree that they are internally focused. My experience is they love comparing between each other and very much so between them and the West. Trying to find ways they are better.
Yes. But there is no real comparison. China can never attain the greatness of America because American does not lie in the size of its economy. Nor does it lie completely in the work ethic of its people. It's lies in what makes America America. It lies in our liberties. Communism cannot achieve this because communism restricts freedom of the people.
If they love comparing with each other, that means they are internally focused. The whole aim of the Communist party is to bring economic prosperity to the nation. Communists are human too. They have humanity and hearts.
@@jeffreyng1908 I hear what you’re saying, but consider this: they have about the same amount of taxes as Canada and the UK with practically none of the government services. In some respects Canada and the UK exercise more communist traits than China does.
@@jiff2323 I mean there are government buildings and the party directs construction projects that Elon Musk says surpasses that of the US. There are cameras on every street corner to deter crime. The party spends billions in the military so I’m not sure if it’s correct that they have little government.
Comparing China with someone who used nuclear weapons on civilian population killing thousands of babies and small children without any possible existing threat is beyond any rudeness 😢😢😢
White American politicians are projecting their colonialism onto China when China has very different worldview and culture - much more peace loving and much less colonial/acquisitive. The society is much safer, more harmonious and communal even though they have much less wealth than the Americans.
China is not an aggresive country. In 5000 years of Chinese history, China didn't attack its neighbours instead Chinese armies went to south east asia to trade (such as General Zheng He). Chinese people are peaceful, that in the Chinese culture.
@@cspdx11 The war between China and Vietnam 45 years ago was very brief; and China sent messages to US and Russia indicated that this war would only last for several weeks before the attack. China kept the promise withdrew the army when they were very close to Vitenam's capital. This attack was not for invasion but to help China's close friend Cambodia, which was under attack by Vitenam at that time.
The US won the wars in terms of military power, but yeah, US lost them if you take the wars’ economic impacts and ethical stuff. I will say the US didn’t truly lose any of them.
Bro...all countries are in debt And the debt actually is the indicator or how strong the country is Why? Well because of FIAT currency. Fiat came after nixon removed gold from being tied to the dollar, or dollar tiex to gold. This is important because a lot of countries that exported to usa alao bought usa treasury with gold, and when they were to exchange back, usa would stand to lose a lot of gold Why do you think fort knox practically has everyones gold about 75% of the worlds reserve
@@vanillasnowx jajajajajajajaja, where the hell did you learn economy? If having a lot of debt was good Japan wouldn't be stuck for 50 years and Greece would be a superpower
Elon Musk makes me nervous. Something tells me he's more patriotic towards China than the United States; that his allegiance rests with them. I say this not only in how he acted towards the Fremont Ca government during COVID vs. how he acted towards Shanghai when they shuttered his factories, but also his rosy, optimistic outlook toward China ("economy 3x the size of USA"), and his scientifically flawed and highly biased opinion of the Chinese people ("China has many many more smart people compared to the USA"). He also mentioned China's recent development without mentioning that the Shanghai skyline is a gimmicky light show designed to wow tourists, and without mentioning that America has a far better airport infrastructure than China has. These many biases Musk has leads me to believe that we should be afraid of the guy given his position in the USA government. I just hope they didn't give him a security clearance...
We were always pro US. Sure, there were critical voices, but down to the line we always supported US in actions and policies. We always looked at Canada as the nice little brother of US and an ally as well. What do you think we, Europe, should have done different to show our gratitude towards your bigger brother?
@@jin_asap I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the US technological prowess. Even if publicly the US may seem to be behind, the technology that is locked up in very secretive US military programs is unbelievable. So much so that if those technologies were to be used, the US could pretty easily take over the world (even in today's nuclear environment).
That’s peanut compared to Laos. Laos holds a world record: the most bombed country in the world. 7.7 million tons of explosives were dropped in Laos, by more than 580,000 air missions by the US Airforce on Laos between 1964 and 1973 during the Vietnam War. That’s more than three times the intensity of bombs dropped in all theaters of World War II. There are still 80 million bomblets that never went off remain live, buried over 35% of land area of Laos. A staggering 270 million bomblets were dropped in a country with a population of 2.5 million, to carpet a huge buffer zone to prevent weaponries to reach Vietnam. By 1975, 1/10th of Laos population was killed, 1/5th of the population wounded.
@@zeissiez The My Lai Massacre only became known because of a handful of soldiers/helicopter pilot, disgusted by the actions of the ground forces. As for Laos and the undeclared war with the carpet bombing of the entire region and expending more firepower over that decade than all the munitions used during WW2, yes, a nation scale atrocity criminally overlooked.
@@zeissiez There will be a re-evaluation of history, that's for sure. The current and "prevailing" perspective of good vs evil has long been a simplistic fairytale.
6:53 What in seven hells is he even talking about?! What sort of Alternate History class did he attend to? I used to believe he's some kind of idealist, but this what he said there is why I think he's dangerous. Legitimately dangerous.
He's a brainwashed exceptionalist , that deluded himself into thinking he actually coded the whole paypal architecture ( i think it's easier to cope with being a fraud that way ) , whereas it's "borrowed" code....Now he's deluding himself into thinking Usa is the benevolent shining city on the hill that "saved" Europe ( by financing HEAVILY the nazi party then came after Russia beat them , to carpet bomb all european industry centers , carefully avoiding the SS outposts because there was too many valuable scientists in there ^^ and "paperclipped" them) ..... Of course the guy is dangerous , he's like a healthy meat eating Steve Jobs of the military industrial complex , minus 30 iq points but just as sociopathic as steve was , and that got coopted to be the media face of three major industries instead of just one to make them look fashionable . Steve jobs wanted to "change the world" , Elon wanna "coup" it
As in conquering by force and calling other territories US. It's descriptive reality that with nukes they could have done that. Japan could have been called right now another US state.
BRICS has surpassed G7 already and there's no sign of them slowing down. The leader in Energy(Russia) and the Leader in Technology and Industrial Might(China) can make or break any nation on the geopolitical stage. The US also relied heavily on Russian energy exports. With sanctions, this of course left an abundance of available resources between China and Russia to dump into other developing countries. China is building port and transportation infrastructure in these countries and Russia is also opening up the Arctic Trade Route for themselves and China. Meanwhile the US is melting into a rainbow and being used by her "friends" like a "free to take" bank! Why Elon Musk doesn't help separate Texas from the US and start a new banking system just blows my mind! He's richer than the Rothchilds.
All the BRICS countries are complete shitholes that are experiencing massive braindrains because anyone who’s intelligent or skilled tries to move to the west ASAP.
@@dstr1 but i was speaking of building in china. Google tofu dreg construction. But the days of china being the manufacturer of the world is over. India and mexico will take its place.
China is "inquisitive". But they are very inquisitive using money and leverage in dealing with many countries (especially and primarily 3rd world countries). Promising money in the way of loans or construction projects with strings attached.
Yes we should always aim to become morally "better" as a country, however, we must also become stronger. If the U.S. citizenary had a little more support we would be an even greater force to be wreckend with. The spirit of competition is engrained in our culture, when we unite, I truly believe there isn't a more formidable nation on earth.
This coming from Musk - the guy that tried to shut down the government the week before Christmas causing millions of government workers to not get their paychecks. Yeah, he’s a real piece of garbage.
Naw there’s waaaayyyyy more hard working ppl here in America then ppl think.. u think all this shits automated? Rail yards airports shipyards factories farms fast food restaurants bars/clubs taxis Lyfts Ubers coal mines military appliance delivery guys amazon ups fedex all there warehouse workers radio djs post office ppl electrician plumbers all the trade workers teachers doctors janitors lawyers police fishermen did I say coal miners? Truck drivers dmv workers all government workers vending machine guys gardeners garbage guys shout out to everyone out here working hidden in plain sight keeping America running 🇺🇸
Can they triple ... their percapita in the future from current $12.000 to 20.000-36.000?is nett growth to 36.000 easy,hard,doable? Population increase is the worst way to increase a country GDP. There are many ways to increase it
@@andia968 I mean sure it’s possible, but it’s going to be very hard with the population aging China is experiencing. Chinese GDP road a demographic wave and globalization/trade. It’s population has peaked and is rapidly aging, and the relationships with its biggest trading partners are breaking down. China appears set for a Japanese strike lost decade based on the real estate market. That seems like a much more likely outcome then 2-3x GDP going forward.
Well, that's the problem; humans are not naturally kind or unselfish.... just the opposite especially if any discomfort is introduced in the process of being unselfish.
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There are no two big powers. China is not a big powerful country.
ELON MUSK IS CONFUSED WITH CHINA & CCP. CHINESE & COMMUNIST CHINA. NO ORDINARY FOLKS CAN BE THE MEMBERS OF CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY. VERY SELECTIVE ELITES. CCP HIJACKS CHINA & KIDNAPS OVER 1 BILLION CHINESE SLAVES.
IF ELON MUSK KNOWS MORE HISTORY OF CULTURAL REVOLUTION FROM 1960-70s, HOW TRADITIONAL CHINESE CULTURE BE DESTROYED. THEN, WE KNOW MORE WHY CCP IS SO BRUTAL & AGGRESSIVE TO INVADE & DESTROY AMERICA, & THEY EVEN WANT TO DOMINATE THE WORLD.
CAN YOU SEE THE OLDER GENERATION IN POWER STILL HOLD THE EMPEROR MINDSETS TO CONTROL PEOPLE IN 21st CENTURY BUT THEY DONT REALLY UNDERSTAND DEMOCRACY, HUMAN RIGHTS, JUSTICE. THEY ARE ANTI GOD. THEY THINK THEY ARE BIGGER THAN GOD. CAN YOU SEE CCP PARTY IS ABOVE EVERYTHING. ABOVE THE LAW. THE WHOLE SYSTEM HAS NO CHECK & BALANCE.
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And you thought you new everything
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The real reason the USA has been talking tough about China the last few years is because China released the digital currency. The USA establishment feels threatened by the digital Yuan. The digitial Yuan transfers faster and easier than regular USD money transfers. The USA does everything it can to protect the use of the USD for global trade. Even invading countries that have tried to move away from USD for trading oil.
The USA maintains a trade deficit, which can only be possible if everyone keeps using the USD.
Watching two AI's interact is surprisingly soothing. Even when talking about global war.
Hahaha. Funniest comment I’ve seen in a while
@@JoshuaLoganjoshuadlogan Two?? Does anyone even know who the monotone muppet talking to Elon is?
lolol!
Honestly I seen so many AI videos of Elon Musk so it’s hard to believe he is real or not in this video. He was advertising a fake trading bot 2 days ago. 😂
@@FedipG This was a real interview.
My advice to you is to not worry before the crisis, continue to live your life.
fact aint like we can do shit about it
its here now already
ive gotten prepared best i can so thats all there is to do now,
Turn you phone off, go out and get some freash air.
I knew an elderly gentleman that fought in the German army in WW2. His company surrendered to the Americans. He said they were so happy it was Americans and not Russians.
Ofc they would be happy. Russians were geneunly pissed at Germans for the destruction, pain, lost lives they caused.
I don't think its reliable to believe what a german said who fought against americans in WW2, ofcourse he would say he favors Americans, because Germany lost the war, and didn't wanted to be purged by Americans lol, If Russia took over Germany, I bet you that German soldier would have said the same but in favor of Russia 😂
Given what the Germans did in the Soviet Union vs what they did the US I'm sure he is glad. Germany openly committed war crimes all over the USSR thinking the same would never happen to them... till it did.
Well yeah, america joined the war late as always.. Russians lost more than any other nation in the war.. Canadians are the worst though.. most unethical war crime connoisseurs to ever walk the planet
@@jocoloco1320 anecdotal rubbish!!....i knew a man...blah blah blah!!
The US empire has 800 military bases all across the world, and no other country has more than 10.
US has NEVER won a war. Remember! So what is the point in having 800 bases ? Next war will see the end of USA and the war will not come out of a gun.
Pretty cool right ?
calling it an empire is not accurate . Everyone hosts those bases willingly . A coalition of democracies is nearer the mark.
@@AaronC123-q9tThat’s cute I like that 🧐😉🙊🙉🙈😂
@@greywolf2622 The truth triggers you .I get it.
If you have any facts to disprove what I said. let's hear it then ?.
You don't have any because America is not an empire.
Countries want American protection that's why they allow bases there.
USA did rebuild several battered countries like Germany and Japan, and even south Korea, but the US did it for itself. All three countries are completed under the USA. The US jas many military bases in these making sure they are under its sphere of influence.
Yeah but ask those countries, they want the US there…because they have big scary neighbors who are likely to treat them worse. Japan, Korea and German all want to stay under the US umbrella, because they get protection from it from Russia and China.
Usa rebuilt nothing in Germany ,Usa just sent some money , the Marshall plan was a shark loan , Germans rebuilt Germany ..Same for Japan
We can not forget it was the peoplr rebuild their own country.
@@jxmai7687 yeah with a huge amount of American help. You think they would have been able to rebuild if the US did not send foot to prevent starvation and famine? Yes they rebuilt their own nations with huge support and aid…now a few (China,Russia) want to revise history and pretend they were not helped out massively. Sad. We Americans still remember that the French helped us out to gain independence from Britian.
@@davidradtke160 what you on about, if I know anyone think like you I woun't accept such help, many those so call help have their agenda and benifit, they are not free help, I could see them as exchange of benifit. I still remember the “help” to Iraq by USA and its accomplice.
Something Trump said that I genuinely agree with: "The US, and China, together, could solve all of the world's problems." China isn't really an enemy. China models themselves off of the United States. Imitation is flattery. A rival, sure, but there's no hate between us. We should collaborate.
CCP is nobody's friend. They are totalitarian.
Ridiculous, the CCP is an enemy of the U.S. They are fast trying to conquer the world. China goaded N. Korea to attack the South and when the South with the help of the U.S. recovered, and pushed toward the Yalu River, they intervened with thousands of troops. The governments of China and Russia are U.S. nemesis.
The CCP begs to differ.
@@rexjrd963 Exactly
China is 100% the enemy. China sees the US the way Iran sees Israel.
Whether you agree with Musk or not, you've got to admit, this guy is very smart. Humans will not fare well against AI, let alone its prodigy.
Musk is an absolute genius
Musk is a salesmen, one with questionable morals.
@@Lucidveinhe's a very dumb guy. The Tesla company was built by 2 American engineers and then he took credits for that.😫😩👎👎
He didn't even know how to save those kids trapped in the cave in Thailand, remember.
He suggested to use submarines to rescuing them even though the water is so shallow, remember 😀😄😄👎👎
so why is he trying to put neuralink in peoples heads and teach cars to self drive?
@@James8591 I don't think it's fair to come him a dumb guy. I don't like him, but he is clearly intelligent. I enjoy the companies he has set up, I just dislike his personality.
About 4 years ago, I moved to a place right next to an airport. I noticed several Cessnas doing "touch and goes" from sunup to sundown, day after day without a break. I wondered why they were so busy. The mystery was solved when I took the daily bus which stopped at the same airport. I was the only Caucasian on the bus. Almost everyone else was Chinese. I found out, from one of the people sitting next to me, that they were all flight school students, learning to fly jets. I thought it was extremely odd that our country would, one hand, call China the enemy, and on the other hand, train the Chinese people to fly jets, which I assumed would be passenger jets...but I kept remembering the F22s that were obviously practicing at that same airport.
the west is naive because they havent been patriotic for 50 years.
Musk knows what side of his bread is buttered.
China sucks
As an American citizen I have nothing but respect and admiration for the Chinese people. We should always be friends and there is nothing but love here!!
You're a blind fool. They are Communists and they hate you.
Thanks, we feel the same way way to American people too.
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We are not friends, we have never been friends and we never will be friends. The Chinese and citizens of these united states are like oil and water. Our cultures are nowhere near compatible.
The Chinese people are largest oppressed group of people on the planet today. The CCP is the problem ....
Many of their people, yes. The Chinese government, no way.
After 1788 Britain turned Australia into the World’s largest prison, a whole Continent. Therefore during WW1, Australia voted in two Referendums NOT to introduce Conscription to provide military aid for Britain. During WW1, all Australian Forces had joined voluntarily.
Bull. South Australia was a third of the continent without transportation. Conscription was irrelevant to transportation; the vote against it was simply that Australia was engaging in war as the only complete democracy to fight in WWI, as no other country had universal representation. The constitution prevented conscription for fighting overseas and that is the essence of a democracy, something that was unheard of at the time, let alone today. Besides, 10% of the population volunteered to form the only all volunteer national force from any country, and that was as much as any country can afford, particularly as an Australian infantryman was paid the same as a British junior officer.
Bro is letting his optimism shine!
Competing with a country 4 times your population, with equivalent IQ levels and working even harder than you, is a very bad odd. The US is holding its edge so far mostly because of starting early and the open society that foster innovation.
The US needs to make very good use of the technological advantages that still exist, especially AI, automation and robotics, to offset the number advantage of China. Humanity needs a strong and open country to lead the way forward to space.
China will surpass US technology
Completely agree with your perspective of the US in the context of technology.
America Chas fallen behind in education. I think it was the head of Apple or one of the American giants of industry said. If you organised a meeting of engineers in America today you would hardly beget enough to fill a room, if you organised a meeting in China you would have to hire a stadium. Those words are not verbatim and may be an exaggeration but you get the picture
Equivalent IQ?? 😂😂😂😂
Open society that fosters innovation?? 😂😂😂😂 Like what, your iPhone? 😂
As an employer I hired many types for my 40 years of management. Early on I discover the Asian work ethic. What is that? Honest, collaborative, intelligent, loyal and diligent. Eventually if there was an Asian applicant I just hired them. To this day I admire their family unity and emphasis upon education!
That’s not the “Asian” work ethic. How absurd. Spend in week in Vietnam. Indonesia, Laos, whatever.
@ You suggest I spend a week in Vietnam. I was an Executive in Saigon for eight months. My Company specializes in airport/runway lighting. Under my “direct z” was approximately 1500 employees. I divided them into three administrative divisions: Vietnamese/Chinese, Filipinos and Expatriates. The most unreliable were the Expatriates. The Filipinos had to be skilled tested as they claimed false credentials. The only group cooperating and reliable were the Chinese. I left due illness.
@@tommorgan1291 Exactly Tom. You understand better than I do.
you are a very simple person.
@doyourownresearch7297 you say that like it's a bad thing.
I love hearing Elon talk,he sounds like someone from another world.
That's on purpose.
@@UPdanum right.
For an American entrepreneur he definitely loves relying on Chinese manufacturing.
why do you type this as if that was a bad thing?
It is through such ties that historical back channels and agreement came to be made, let the man work
Like any other mayor company in the US
Absolute loser shit….faux intellectualism at it’s finest….both of these chodes.
This statement makes no sense. Which global car maker only build cars in their home country, and which American car company doesn’t have a plant in China? It’s business. California literally drove him out of the state, and the US government shunned him for not using the union. What would you do when the second largest country offers to make what you need for half the cost?
What Elon Musk said about America and China is true. Historically, China has rarely acted as an empire that aggressively conquered other nations, especially compared to Western powers. Meanwhile, after World War II, the United States, despite its immense power, played a key role in helping to rebuild nations, including Germany and Japan-two of the main perpetrators during the war. This is an unprecedented act in history. For comparison, when the Romans defeated Carthage, their primary rival at the time, they destroyed the city completely and even salted the earth to prevent its resurgence (Polybius, Histories; Appian, The Punic Wars).
While it's true that America has also committed questionable acts throughout history, no empire has ever existed without engaging in morally complex or outright harmful actions. However, the Marshall Plan and efforts to rebuild Japan stand as extraordinary examples of post-war reconstruction.
A recent experience teaching in Japan highlighted some of these ideas. In one of my classes, there were two Japanese students-a man and a woman-and a Chinese woman. The Japanese students commented negatively about Donald Trump, criticizing his policies and leadership during his first presidency and expressing concerns about his new proposed policies. Surprisingly, the Chinese woman expressed positive views about Trump. This led to a historical discussion where I explained why some of Trump’s comments about China, especially regarding trade imbalances, intellectual property issues, and economic policies, might make sense in a broader context.
Interestingly, the Japanese woman reacted strongly, attempting to paint China as an imperialistic power both historically and in modern times. The tension escalated, and the Japanese man even reported to the staff, claiming I wasn’t focused on teaching English and instead turned the session into a free-talk lesson. He also accused me of being uninterested in helping him personally.
Despite this, the Chinese student continued taking my lessons, and we’ve had open, fact-based discussions on a variety of topics. The irony is that I didn’t initiate the political conversation-the Japanese students brought it up with negative comments about Trump and seemingly expected me to agree. I couldn’t help but notice the double standard: had I criticized a Japanese leader like Shinzo Abe, I might have been labeled as anti-Japanese.
US rebuilt those countries but benefited immensley from both the rebuild and subsequent governments they helped establish. Dont be quick to assume it was an act of victor’s goodwill.
why would you compare to "the west" and not just "other countries in history. You have a category problem that shows your bias.
What about Tibet, East Turkestan or Inner Mongolia?
@@charleswomack2166 Mongolia became Chinese because the Mongols conquered China, not the other way around, Tibet was conquered by the Qing, Manchus who conquered China, Xinjiang the same, China expanded through its conquerors who assimilated themselves because Chinese culture is superior, not by conquering itself.
Most of the time when I ask people if they are comfortable in our American-made/managed World they respond with powerfully positive emotional responses such as joyful tearfelt, unanimous:
"Americans are Incredibly kind, sexy and wickedly wealthy... The country oozes geopolitically financial might and sex appeal. Lady Liberty gotta single fran???"
I've never had a problem with China. we grew up with them in Canada in the 80s and 90s. I believe we got along was because the disiplent we had in a first world country. I believe we all need each other's. Not firat place or second
China disagrees with you! They want 1st place. You're so naive. There is always ranking in society. Without it, there will be no order.
Chinese-Canadians and Chinese government are two different things. We love the former, and dislike the latter.
Your a 🤡 then 😂
the 80's and 90's Chinese were mostly from Hong Kong and Taiwan you clown
@@JohnLee-ip4ul The Chinese government is born from the Chinese people, let's stop this nonsense that makes people believe that the leaders of a country fall from the sky, they are born from the people, from this culture, from this civilization.
When all of North America becomes one, real change for the better will happen.
Since WWII, the U.S. has been involved in numerous regime changes, wars, and color revolutions to protect its strategic and economic interests. Key examples include coups in Iran (1953) and Guatemala (1954), the Bay of Pigs in Cuba (1961), and support for the overthrow of leaders in Chile (1973) and Congo (1960). The U.S. was also deeply involved in Vietnam, Cambodia, Afghanistan, and Nicaragua, often supporting insurgent groups. More recently, the U.S. played roles in the 2003 Iraq invasion, the 2011 NATO intervention in Libya, and support for opposition in Syria and Venezuela. Color revolutions in Eastern Europe, like Ukraine's 2014 Euromaidan, are also linked to U.S. influence. These interventions often destabilized regions, leading to long-term conflicts and power vacuums. I think this more than offsets the "conspicuous acts of kindness" they may have exhibited during WWII. Their behavior in recent times has been trending towards the tyrannical so I think Musk is definitely being biased and cherry picking his arguments in this case.
And Russia has been involved in way more regime changes, revolutions and genocidal wars, it's very confusing the point you're trying to make but glad I could clarify it
@@ChauvinistTrolldid not mention Russia one time, what’s ur point?
@@ChauvinistTroll please do clarify it!
@@qianshanli7552 The title of the video is USA and China!
@@patrickfitzpatrick1600 my pleasure comrad!
Russia was involved in pretty much all colonial wars, providing weapons to militias - all the while Russia is one of the largest colonoziers and is yet to give independence to its colonies. When do you think that will happen?
Then of course lets not forget the invasion of Moldova, Georgia, Chechnya (with the horrific genocide of the Chechens), and of course Ukraine.
Russia was deeply involved in Vietnam, Afghanistan, and is currently financing neo nazi groups across the globe, and terrorist groups in Africa. Every coup in Africa had the backing of Russia - why are they trying this new form of colonialism? Who knows...
Of course all of these interventions destabilized whole regions and continents, and one of the reasons why so many countries wanted, and want to join NATO.
If Elon says something negative n there goes his Factory
Is there a chance that he is telling the truth?
@@heliosasherno look at the facts not ccp propaganda
Funny how you think China is trash, when the U.S. government started a trade war to bring down China.
@@leprechaunbutreallyjustamidget Anything you don't like is propaganda. That's the logic everywhere these days
Yep!
One thing is for sure: every empire has eventually met its end.
"Empire" is a whote person's way of humble bragging about the shithole they created 😂
Some of them lasted for more than thousand years
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but their dynasty changes many times!
Ottoman empire have only one dynasty, lasted for 500years, i think that's longest dynasty.
There will be many civil wars during that long time.
Many many civil wars! bloody civil wars when dynasty change or the form of government group change
great business man and a visionary. he’s greatest asset is attracting very talented people to work for his vision. great insights.
They have scary technology and amazing cities. We need to get this country right. Let’s get them Elon.
The USA couldn't even take afghanistan or vietnam.
But did take Germany and Japan at same time
@@gregcox-w5p yeah with the soviet union and british empire's help
The USA did take Afghanistan, it just didn't want to stay there forever.
No the USA did-not want Afghanistan thats how it was explained to me.
It’s called game theory check it out on Ted talk very interesting
Thucydides trap applies only when both parties are warmongers. In present scenario there is only one warmonger. I have faith that peace with prevail
Absolutely TRUE !!
@@user-gp9mk7wm1s only one adult in the room! I hope you're right!
Thucydides trap only work if both party had the same core interest (backyard). China and US is too far apart to engage in confrontation. US and USSR had a stronger rivalry than US and China yet they never went to war. this is because both side has plenty of room to grow and they are busy dominating their region. despite USSR and US establish alliances that border each other, those alliances never went to war. rather the 3 signature wars of the cold war was korea, vietnam and afghanistan, all of which are far from their alliance and core territories. in fact this mirrors what we see today with Ukraine and Israeli being wars that are as far from Beijing and Washingston as possible. so I actually don't see there being a risk of war. WWI and WWII is largely started by as a fight for dominance over europe by european powers. US was powerful but US didn't go around starting WWI and WWII...
@@lagrangewei That would be true if only geographic proximity was inconsideration. Unfortunately the US with its Monroe doctrine massively overreaches its influence, a trend that is increasing with NATO expansion and efforts to establish an Asian NATO pushes closely onto China's sphere of influence. This is clearly visible by the presence of US military bases surrounding China. The U.S. push to expand NATO into Asia mirrors the principles of the Monroe Doctrine, which sought to assert U.S. dominance by limiting foreign influence in the Western Hemisphere. Similarly, expanding NATO into Asia reflects America's modern strategy to extend its geopolitical influence and contain rival powers like China and Russia in critical regions. Both policies aim to consolidate U.S. control over global security dynamics and prevent adversaries from gaining influence in key strategic areas. We are definitely all at risk if they continue down this path to remain the worlds hegemonic power!
“Nato expansion”😂😂😂😂
First time to hear Elon on his view regarding China and US-China relationship. Interesting.
I disagree on overbuilding infrastructure and not accepting imports from other countries, it can in the future not be enough money to keep maintenance of these new infrastructure! At one point what is happening in the USA, good infrastructure is expensive to maintain
German officers were held captive in the southwest U.S. during WWII.
A German Officer got hold of a map, saw a river on the map, made an inflatable raft and set off to escape.
What he found out was that there are no rivers of any real sufficiency to float a raft in the Mojave Desert....just dry riverbeds.
When he realized he messed up, he went into a nearby town.
After getting there, he was fed by civilians who knew from the accent he was German.
They fed him and eventually he turned himself in to the local authorities and stated that Americans were great people!
The question should be " Would you rather live under a ruthless dictator or choose your own destiny?". Then decide which country is greater.
“Dictator” gets a bad rap in a democratic society. Satya Nadella and even Steve Jobs were CEOs that dictated their companies to success. Xi wants whats best for his country and will lead it to prosperity. We can go on about his record of treatment of Muslims Uighyrs and maybe Tibetans but that’s like if people started criticizing racism in this country, coups in Latin America started by US politicians, how the US sells weapons to countries to fight in wars. Example Israel.
Have you ever been in china? It's wayyyy safer than the USA, choose your own destiny? You can't even go to university without getting debt for life
Actually, the only countries that captured others in WWII with the intention to rebuild them to be independent countries were Australia and America, it is rare.
We would be still the most powerful economically and Industrial wise but our politicians sold us out
China is NEWER than the US. That means everything they have they built is in the last 30 years or so. This is why the US and Europe have changed so much since the 40s. Europe had to be rebuilt and the US grew very fast so, lots of building.
Remember when Klaus Schwab said China was a role model for many nations? 😂
We had enough trouble occupying Iraq and Afghanistan. We have enough trouble managing our own cities. Perhaps we can conclude that we really do not know what we are doing, or are not really good at it.
I wonder if the 400+ million people in China that live in squaler would agree with you?
We are the best at it. Our population is no longer invested in Imperialism. To be successful we need the whole nation on board. America could have took the world over after WW2, we were the only country with a nuke. We could have installed bases in every nation. And made them satellite states that reported to us. But we didn’t. Who knows why the U.S. fumbled world domination.
Not true, with Iraq and Afghanistan we were at war with groups of people not the country. Look what happened to Iraq during the Invasion of Kuwait.
that's because it has always been British Empire affairs and somehow UK manipulated the US and USSR to save its empire... I mean if Hitler teamed up with Stalin to take Poland, why did UK only declare war on Hitler? US been neutral but, UK promised them the world as they take the back seat..
If aliens don't exist humans will never unite it's impossible
Try this thought experiment about one world government.
Let's say 10 satellite and cable companies are competing for your hard earned dollar . How do they treat you?
What prices do they charge for their services?
Are they trying really are hard to keep you as a customer?
Do they treat you well ?
Is the price fair ?
Now imagine only one cable or satellite service in your area and ask all the same questions again.
Surprised this TH-cam got Elon musk on. But glad for him, he makes good videos
What sparks the war isn't important. What is important is how the fire was slowly built to engulf at a single spark. If the ground is highly flammable it will always burn because the spark will always come eventually.
Elon said some well thought out points here, I don't know how well it (or the rest of the west) will deal with China being more powerful than any of them.
The reason Taiwan is not part of China is not because of the United States, it is because the people of Taiwan don't want to be reunited with China; and that is mainly because of the heavy-handed and brutal actions of the Chinese government.
The Chinese government, with their actions in Hong Kong, lost a great opportunity to move towards reunification with Taiwan.
Stop spreading lies. I think you're either a child who hasn't ween out of milk yet or intentionally spread misinformation.
Hong Kong is doing great despite UK and USA meddling it internal affair.
nonsense - US interference is precisely why TW under ROC states it's part of China while TWs population is >97% Han Chinese
What exactly happened with the treatment of HK after 1997?
If California wanted independence because they don't like us government will you give them independence, no, of course, so why Taiwan has a right you don't even give to your own people?
And like it or not ,but Taiwan will become part of china again , maybe not in 10 years, or even 50 , but it will
And this, ladies and gentleman, this is why US economy is in tatters I say. IN TATTERS!!
compared to china?? bhhahahahahhhaha 600 million live in poverty in china
What would a relative comparison of the economies of other countries reveal? If the US's in tatters what are the others in?
Whatever. Musk is with the US and commies still can not copy musk's reusable rockets.
@@ericreed4535 RIGHT
The key phrase in describing Chinese is “they have alot of energy”…. This is because they are very healthy mind, body and spirit. They have a strong family support structure. In the US everything is broken and poison from our food supply, mental health, medicine, education, family life… everything
If the U.S. would have continued to focus on the U.S. and not over reaching and spending, we could still be the biggest kid on the block. Instead we decided to implement Socialism to all Americans and every immigrant from every country near and far. Any idea why we’re broke and every day born Americans ( myself included)are working 2 jobs to survive. Makes me sick!!!!! 😤
Industrialists love Chinese because they follow leaders more than individualists in the West.
I’m a number one fan of Elon, but I don’t buy his reasoning regarding the US and China adversarial relations since Elon got a conflict of interest, he is deeply invested in China
Isn't he deeply invested in the US as well?
He is just being a realist. China has far surpassed US in terms of infra/transportation, while their technology in any fields are on par if not better with US now. US really needs to step up in order to maintain its power. US is by far leading with its military might. But then for how long? China's rise is inevitable. It is up to US to decide whether it wants to stay on top with China (If no war between the 2 nation will occur) or to decline while China surpasses it. But one thing if for sure. They both need to coexist cuz if not, We are all f*cked..
@@duncankowablesame doesn’t happen in US. Negotiations doesn’t work with China
@@duncankowable I don’t buy his Thucydides BS, Jinping
Thats categorically false. The u.s and china are the largest trading partners in the world.@tomorrowland2684
China isn't Athen. and US isn't Sparta. China was one of the 5 major victor of WWII together with USSR, China has always been a great power even when it was weak. furthermore the confrontation between US and USSR was far more serious than that of US and China, if US and USSR didn't fight even when the 2 has military alliance against each other, the likelihood for US fighting China is actually far lower than that.
in fact I argue that historically global power avoid each other, in the cold war, most of the fighting is undertaken far from moscow and washington: in Korea, in Vietnam, in Afghanistan. why this is so is because global power like Russia, China and US are physically far apart, and their core interest lies closer to their surrounding than something happening half the world away, whereas Sparta and Athen were competing for the same backyard, they had the same core interest which is unlike the global powers of today. this is why the Ukraine war make sense in a world where China and US are the leading powers, because Ukraine is as far away from Washingston and Beijing as you can get, from China and US prespective it is better for EU and Russia to exhaust each other than for US and China to hurt each other. there is actually logic to this madness. the same is with the Israeli wars.
so I actually do not think that war between US and China is at all likely. despite all the hype about Taiwan, Taiwan is simply not US core interest. US is more likely to just bomb TSMC to prevent it capture by China than to bother with attempting to save it which would result in China bombing TSMC to prevent a US rescue. so both side would destroy Taiwan than to allow Taiwan become a point of conflict between them. strategic liability should not be confuse for strategic asset, Taiwan is a liability to whoever control it since it is easier to destroy it than to occupy it.
Thanks, sold all my TSMC!
I'd agree if we wait about a decade or two once semi conductors have been taken away from Taiwan. If china attacks Taiwan right now 90% of the most advanced semi conductors will stop being produced.
Are you serious right now? Do they have history books where you come from? You understand 5 years after the end of WW2 Americans marines were stacking Chinese soldiers ten high in the battle of the Chosen valley during the Korean War. The only reason the war was halted at the 38th parallel was due to massive Chinese attrition, the Chinese have even recently made major production films of this and other battles from this Era. There 900k Chinese soldiers killed during this war, arguably more than the actual WW2 period given the entire casualty numbers are unknown and derived from the Japanese invasion/occupation lasting more than a decade beforehand.
Taiwan is more than chips. It's an opening for their navy to escape the first island chain as well as a deep sea port for their navy. It's absolutely critical if they wish to expand their influence deeper into the Pacific it also allows them to create a choke point to 1/3 of Maritime trade. With their actions towards the phillipenes and ignoring their neighbors economic zones you can't think that letting them take Taiwan will sate their expansionist dreams. If you don't believe me look at the new 10 dash line map they just discovered.
The century of humilation wasnt a fluke… their culture is egotisical and closed minded to the rest of the world. Not industrializing when they should have got them in big trouble and they haven’t fostered good relationships with its neighbors.
Elon Musk aka the smartest man in the world
Two feds interviewing eachother.
If you have a McDonalds in your country...
The new kid on the Block comes with 5000 years of history compared to 400 years.
There are civilizations older than the new kid on the block. They aren't doing so well. So what's your point? 🥱
Other old kids are dead, China is only one survived, I believe.
An incredibly weak Argument, the origin of the US is largely European...Is Europe 400yrs old? China rise is largely due being Cheap labour. 90% of their 'innovations' are stolen from American and European companies. With Infrastructure they learned from Europeans and American Architects and so on. Yes the New Kid on the block is big but lets not make up stuff here.
@@ericreed4535 SURVIVAL
@@bartsolari5035 Wouldn't "thriving" beat surviving?
Not sure those detained in Guantanamo would be saying the Americans are the first choice to be a pow for…
They would much rather be there than a Chinese reeducation camp.
Tofu construction is more impressive than in the U.S. Very interesting take
There also that US engineered tofu ISS thats leaking like a sieve.
Cope😂
You mean like Boeing Stuckliner and flying door 737Max?😂😂😂
@@directxxxx71 you’re comparing the U.S. plane industry VS the Chinese? Good luck with that one lol
Bro thinks LEDs are impressive engineering feats
my grandpa was an american pow outside berlin. when the russians broke through, him and his crew all hid because they were afraid they were going to be put into the red army.
This is a great interview and so many ways history is important to read and perspective with great readers like Elon Musk is so enlighten
Throughout history, all empires have fallen. The downfall of the US will not be an exception to the rule, and we are witnessing the downfall.
Empires didn't die in 400 years. They last 6,000
@nfaller89 what empire lasted 6,000 years?
China is inquisitive. They are not just threatening Taiwan. He forgot the Philippines and Japan and Vietnam and others. If America was not there to keep them in check they would already own them.
China after WW2 was in ruins. As a Chinese American, I know the Chinese were wondering what went wrong. We are indeed inquisitive. Yes they tried to spread Communism, but that’s only a political and economic system that Mao thought was right. Elon Musk already said the infrastructure of China under the Communists surpasses anything the US has.
Wait wtf are you smoking?? Imperial japan invaded China and slaughtered over 30 million Chinese! If China wanted to annex and colonized their neighbors they would have done it thousands of years ago but they never did. Vietnam is an expansionist communist regime, they’re colonized Laos, Cambodia, and wanted to invade thailand until China stopped in. China has not done squat to the Philippines! Did you forget Spain and USA invaded and colonized the Philippines. China had never colonized and invaded the Philippines through out the thousands of years being neighbors.
What you're forgetting is, all the countries you mentioned are at odds by aligning to US which is also trying to contain China.
Does China want South China Sea for the rich resources? Yes, they do, but so does everyone else. Look at the overlapping claims between all the nations involved. It's a fight for resources which requires military fight unless all of them are willing to resolve diplomatically.
Read the history, and understand why most countries have One China policy, Taiwan is part of China, even Taiwan's constitution says that. those countries also have border disbute with other countries.
@ I would say the Tiawan people and government would strongly disagree with you.
Musk talked about POW of America and Russia in ww2, he forgot about how many Russians had died and how many Americans died.
Take that into account then you can compared the behaviour.
What's your point??
Allies did not mass slaughter thier prisoners like the Nazis or the Soviets did.
USA must have forgotten WWII. See Guantanamo and Abhu Graib for example
Yes but that was just as much Stalin's fault as it was Hitler's. Stalin treated his people like cattle or chickens for slaughter. The Russians and Germans both were brutal. So were the Japanese. And later wars the Chinese and North Vietnamese were brutal as well. And by the way, those 800 bases all across the world, those countries willing gave us access to those bases. The United States did not take them by force and actually any country that doesn't want the U.S. there can actually evict the U.S. If they want.
Soviets were animals, regardless of their sacrifice in the war they should not be in charge of anything but their own fatalist, miserable population.
@@maximillianrodriguez5631America has done worse than either. 😂 morality isn't something Americans posess
The Japanese attack on Pearl harbor that started WWII for the U.S. was over sanctions the U.S. placed on Japan for invading China. U.S. troops fought and died on Chinese land to free that country, American blood is in China's soil. After the war the U.S. played little part in how China formed its own government even though they could have influenced it greatly. They remember who we are and what we did for them.
Finally this musk guy entered my realm.. now I like him. Rockets is the means.. keep focusing on the end
War is not always about Winning and loosing; Its Mostly about why, WHY IS WHOM AT WAR WITH WHOM,
that tis the question Sherlock
Hstorically, loads of bull.
USA absolutely extended its influence over all states that was able to, via Marshall Plan and NATO founding. The game was just played in two: see Korea, once upon a time that state was united.
Secondly, Axis guys preferred to surrender to Americans because, Hello? Germany had just targeted the entirety of the slav world with an attempt to reduce it whole into slavery, following the Lebensraum and Ubermensch doctrines.
But I will concede, the guy is onto something with the unprecedented acts of kindness strategy and belief in the good heart of the next guy.
Marshall Plan was... also an extension of influence.
Economy isn't zero sum, and people can be thankful to you to do something in your interest.
The new cold war is already there, it's not a matter to avoid it. But to survive it.
We should aim to actually build peace.
"The US has not been acquisitive." - an astoudingly ridiculous thing to say, or the context is so narrow as to be intentionally misleading.
"...generally a benevolent force." - I get it, Lex must've slipped Elon an e.
The only territory that the US has acquired since WW2 is a million square miles of ocean, claimed last year. And also, since WW2 the US gave up the Philippines.
@@leeswecho The US acquired the whole f*cking world. Trying reading something that wasn't written by your government.
Make your case
@@leeswecho The only territory acquired since the Spanish American War. The EEZ is granted all nations under the international law of the Sea.
@@thomassenbart US has annexed swathes of Syria's oil producing land for years; has leashed S.Korea for decades. Either Musk doesn't read everything, or has selective bias, or he's pushing agenda. Musk's wealth relies on a bouyant NYSE.
It may be argued that historically, China has not been culturally oriented in imposing its hegemony beyond the Sinic regional sphere; it seems quite plausible to extend this observation to the present scheme, and conclude that despite its impressive recent economic and military ascendancy, China still has no global “acquisitive” designs - but that matters not at all because the United States is nothing if not an acquisitive power, and will under no circumstances tolerate the rise of any regional hegemon that could pose a potential challenge to its strategic security interests anywhere in the world. The Chinese, of course, are fully aware of this fact - as is everyone else - ergo, conflict between the United States and any other rising regional power (including China) is inevitable: THAT is the true ΘΟΥΚΥΔΙΔΗΣ trap...
The best historical explanation articulately spoken. Well done Mr Musk
He (Musk) sounds like an idiot.
I do not agree that they are internally focused. My experience is they love comparing between each other and very much so between them and the West. Trying to find ways they are better.
Yes. But there is no real comparison. China can never attain the greatness of America because American does not lie in the size of its economy. Nor does it lie completely in the work ethic of its people. It's lies in what makes America America. It lies in our liberties. Communism cannot achieve this because communism restricts freedom of the people.
If they love comparing with each other, that means they are internally focused. The whole aim of the Communist party is to bring economic prosperity to the nation. Communists are human too. They have humanity and hearts.
@@jeffreyng1908 I hear what you’re saying, but consider this: they have about the same amount of taxes as Canada and the UK with practically none of the government services. In some respects Canada and the UK exercise more communist traits than China does.
@@jiff2323 I mean there are government buildings and the party directs construction projects that Elon Musk says surpasses that of the US. There are cameras on every street corner to deter crime. The party spends billions in the military so I’m not sure if it’s correct that they have little government.
Comparing China with someone who used nuclear weapons on civilian population killing thousands of babies and small children without any possible existing threat is beyond any rudeness 😢😢😢
White American politicians are projecting their colonialism onto China when China has very different worldview and culture - much more peace loving and much less colonial/acquisitive. The society is much safer, more harmonious and communal even though they have much less wealth than the Americans.
Ever heard about mao Zedong?!
Naive
@@sanebrain Yeah, one of the greatest world leaders ever.
China is not an aggresive country. In 5000 years of Chinese history, China didn't attack its neighbours instead Chinese armies went to south east asia to trade (such as General Zheng He). Chinese people are peaceful, that in the Chinese culture.
thats fax bro
Vietnam was attacked
@@cspdx11 The war between China and Vietnam 45 years ago was very brief; and China sent messages to US and Russia indicated that this war would only last for several weeks before the attack. China kept the promise withdrew the army when they were very close to Vitenam's capital. This attack was not for invasion but to help China's close friend Cambodia, which was under attack by Vitenam at that time.
Do you include the Qing dynasty in those 5000 years?
He couldn't care less. A couple of billion human lives mean nothing to musk.
What a truly stupid thing to say.
Love my Chinese brothers and sisters and the beautiful culture landscapes unbelievable! Together we can make a better future for all!
America did start to do that since the 50s, starting with Korean war, and losing every war ever since
Your understanding of history is completely false
You,obviously know nothing about war history
Losing? Really... When America lost is because it let the other side win.
You completely fail to comprehend history.
The US won the wars in terms of military power, but yeah, US lost them if you take the wars’ economic impacts and ethical stuff.
I will say the US didn’t truly lose any of them.
Don’t insult your orange buddies bestie Vlad
I read the comments below and everyone's a expert. All I'm going to say is who's 35 trillion in debt?
EXACTLY.
Yeah, they think america will be first superpower forever
A better question would be who are they indebted to… some may be surprised who the current largest holder of American debt is.
Bro...all countries are in debt
And the debt actually is the indicator or how strong the country is
Why? Well because of FIAT currency. Fiat came after nixon removed gold from being tied to the dollar, or dollar tiex to gold.
This is important because a lot of countries that exported to usa alao bought usa treasury with gold, and when they were to exchange back, usa would stand to lose a lot of gold
Why do you think fort knox practically has everyones gold about 75% of the worlds reserve
@@vanillasnowx jajajajajajajaja, where the hell did you learn economy? If having a lot of debt was good Japan wouldn't be stuck for 50 years and Greece would be a superpower
They’re mostly very proud hard working and civil ..
Elon Musk makes me nervous. Something tells me he's more patriotic towards China than the United States; that his allegiance rests with them. I say this not only in how he acted towards the Fremont Ca government during COVID vs. how he acted towards Shanghai when they shuttered his factories, but also his rosy, optimistic outlook toward China ("economy 3x the size of USA"), and his scientifically flawed and highly biased opinion of the Chinese people ("China has many many more smart people compared to the USA"). He also mentioned China's recent development without mentioning that the Shanghai skyline is a gimmicky light show designed to wow tourists, and without mentioning that America has a far better airport infrastructure than China has.
These many biases Musk has leads me to believe that we should be afraid of the guy given his position in the USA government. I just hope they didn't give him a security clearance...
Elon can get cheap labor from China that his end game...
Elon is south african
Born in South Africa. Mother was Canadian.
Moved to Canada in early teens, studied in a Canadian University for 2 years before transferring to U Penn.
British colony.
@@tolurker1Still south african
@@19CobreAmerican citizen though
Blinken has Israeli citizenship as well. Elon isn't a government official. Just a private citizen
All these countries in europe are so ungrateful when it comes to the U.S and im Canadian
What makes you think that? And im Dutch
We were always pro US. Sure, there were critical voices, but down to the line we always supported US in actions and policies. We always looked at Canada as the nice little brother of US and an ally as well.
What do you think we, Europe, should have done different to show our gratitude towards your bigger brother?
real canadians dont wear MEGA hats.
Grateful for what?
Twice our size , we've been training for war for 200 years, so it will be like a samurai against a redheaded stepchild.
And all of humanity will lose 🤦♂️
Like Vietnam CO Afghanistan?
The US military relies on thousands of Chinese suppliers. US military has been shrinking and US is behind in 57 of 64 critical techs.
@@jin_asap I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the US technological prowess. Even if publicly the US may seem to be behind, the technology that is locked up in very secretive US military programs is unbelievable. So much so that if those technologies were to be used, the US could pretty easily take over the world (even in today's nuclear environment).
samuri literally got battered by Chinese army lol, if you know history.
I love elon for being excessable to anyone
You mean "accessible"
Elon Musk is a very brilliant and very smart man. God Bless him
China is not acquisitive? Look at Tibet, Inner Mongolia, Xinjiang province.
They are parts of China since ancient times 🎉 (classic answer)
Musk is not tottaly wrong... China never colonized any countries across the sea.
they are part of china from Qing Dynasty, what do you want to say? let the speratists make the country apart? in your dream.
US is not acquisitive? Free Hawaii Free New Mexico
Look at a map of the qing empire.
我一拳打你脸上。
Wonder how the villagers of My Lai, Vietnam, would have felt if given the choice of US intervention or not?.
Cant answer that, theyre all dead.
That’s peanut compared to Laos. Laos holds a world record: the most bombed country in the world. 7.7 million tons of explosives were dropped in Laos, by more than 580,000 air missions by the US Airforce on Laos between 1964 and 1973 during the Vietnam War. That’s more than three times the intensity of bombs dropped in all theaters of World War II. There are still 80 million bomblets that never went off remain live, buried over 35% of land area of Laos. A staggering 270 million bomblets were dropped in a country with a population of 2.5 million, to carpet a huge buffer zone to prevent weaponries to reach Vietnam. By 1975, 1/10th of Laos population was killed, 1/5th of the population wounded.
@@zeissiez The My Lai Massacre only became known because of a handful of soldiers/helicopter pilot, disgusted by the actions of the ground forces. As for Laos and the undeclared war with the carpet bombing of the entire region and expending more firepower over that decade than all the munitions used during WW2, yes, a nation scale atrocity criminally overlooked.
@@pikachus5m166
And they say Hitler was cruel
@@zeissiez There will be a re-evaluation of history, that's for sure. The current and "prevailing" perspective of good vs evil has long been a simplistic fairytale.
not to forget , use of orange agent too
6:53 What in seven hells is he even talking about?! What sort of Alternate History class did he attend to? I used to believe he's some kind of idealist, but this what he said there is why I think he's dangerous. Legitimately dangerous.
He's a brainwashed exceptionalist , that deluded himself into thinking he actually coded the whole paypal architecture ( i think it's easier to cope with being a fraud that way ) , whereas it's "borrowed" code....Now he's deluding himself into thinking Usa is the benevolent shining city on the hill that "saved" Europe ( by financing HEAVILY the nazi party then came after Russia beat them , to carpet bomb all european industry centers , carefully avoiding the SS outposts because there was too many valuable scientists in there ^^ and "paperclipped" them) .....
Of course the guy is dangerous , he's like a healthy meat eating Steve Jobs of the military industrial complex , minus 30 iq points but just as sociopathic as steve was , and that got coopted to be the media face of three major industries instead of just one to make them look fashionable .
Steve jobs wanted to "change the world" , Elon wanna "coup" it
As in conquering by force and calling other territories US. It's descriptive reality that with nukes they could have done that. Japan could have been called right now another US state.
He has a very smart take on China despite being a Westerner.
Always one idiot who can’t understand what smart people are talking about😂
What do you disagree with? What did he say that was wrong?
We dislike their terrible government, not the people.
I've said that phrase alot... America is not perfect, but look at the whole track record!
BRICS has surpassed G7 already and there's no sign of them slowing down. The leader in Energy(Russia) and the Leader in Technology and Industrial Might(China) can make or break any nation on the geopolitical stage. The US also relied heavily on Russian energy exports. With sanctions, this of course left an abundance of available resources between China and Russia to dump into other developing countries. China is building port and transportation infrastructure in these countries and Russia is also opening up the Arctic Trade Route for themselves and China. Meanwhile the US is melting into a rainbow and being used by her "friends" like a "free to take" bank!
Why Elon Musk doesn't help separate Texas from the US and start a new banking system just blows my mind! He's richer than the Rothchilds.
All the BRICS countries are complete shitholes that are experiencing massive braindrains because anyone who’s intelligent or skilled tries to move to the west ASAP.
Chinese construction is famously poor quality what is he talking about?
Most likely stuff from Harbor Freight !
@savagecub you forgot the majority of built objects around you. Including many labeled made elsewhere!!
@@dstr1 but i was speaking of building in china. Google tofu dreg construction.
But the days of china being the manufacturer of the world is over. India and mexico will take its place.
World's fastest HSR is in China.
You've been lied to. This is propaganda.
from a chinese perspective, Taiwan is part of China. So perfectly fitting the internal focus
China is "inquisitive". But they are very inquisitive using money and leverage in dealing with many countries (especially and primarily 3rd world countries). Promising money in the way of loans or construction projects with strings attached.
Yes we should always aim to become morally "better" as a country, however, we must also become stronger. If the U.S. citizenary had a little more support we would be an even greater force to be wreckend with. The spirit of competition is engrained in our culture, when we unite, I truly believe there isn't a more formidable nation on earth.
This coming from Musk - the guy that tried to shut down the government the week before Christmas causing millions of government workers to not get their paychecks. Yeah, he’s a real piece of garbage.
ELON SAID IT RIGHT CHINESE PEOPLE IS HARD WORKING AND NOT LAZY. NOTHING IS GIVING OUT THERE USA PEOPLE ONLY WANT WANT COMPLAIN AND LAZY.
That is why in Age of Empire 4 China has a boost in construction speed!
Chinese people speaks speaks lot in internets
Naw there’s waaaayyyyy more hard working ppl here in America then ppl think.. u think all this shits automated? Rail yards airports shipyards factories farms fast food restaurants bars/clubs taxis Lyfts Ubers coal mines military appliance delivery guys amazon ups fedex all there warehouse workers radio djs post office ppl electrician plumbers all the trade workers teachers doctors janitors lawyers police fishermen did I say coal miners? Truck drivers dmv workers all government workers vending machine guys gardeners garbage guys shout out to everyone out here working hidden in plain sight keeping America running 🇺🇸
Elon Musk proved himself to be no friend of the United States. He lost our respect.
How so?
@@stevefranseen1905 google it
Who are you? and what has Musk done to you?
Did he say China will be 2-3 times the US size? Seems unlikely given current trajectories.
yup! Printing money, raising benchmark interest rates, fiscal deficits, phony numbers games🤤
Can they triple ... their percapita in the future from current $12.000 to 20.000-36.000?is nett growth to 36.000 easy,hard,doable? Population increase is the worst way to increase a country GDP. There are many ways to increase it
@@andia968 I mean sure it’s possible, but it’s going to be very hard with the population aging China is experiencing. Chinese GDP road a demographic wave and globalization/trade. It’s population has peaked and is rapidly aging, and the relationships with its biggest trading partners are breaking down. China appears set for a Japanese strike lost decade based on the real estate market. That seems like a much more likely outcome then 2-3x GDP going forward.
@@后宫后 yes China does print a lot of money…
@@davidradtke160 very true, just in four years they've printed like 8-11 trillion dollars. Haven't they???
Well, that's the problem; humans are not naturally kind or unselfish.... just the opposite especially if any discomfort is introduced in the process of being unselfish.
Elon has to becareful with his words seeing as he has alot of money there
American POW are treated better than it's citizens so yeah, who wouldn't want to be an American POW, better than an American slave.
Take over the world with superman.
When you think you’re creating 1930’s Germany, but get 1780’s France…
I am a bit sleepy so I may not be on my A game, but both dont sound appealing to me….
Clearly Musk is an expert in everything he is asked about.. at least he'll tell you so.
Basically he would give Taiwan to China