I'm legitimately crying over how stupid this sounds. Just the thought of a trainer yelling at his quagsire "HOW ARE YOU VIABLE????" and it's only response is to just go "quag?"
For a second, I misunderstood "Quagsire doesn't care about tiers" as "Quagsire doesn't care about tears" and for a second, Quagsire was the most savage creature in existence
Quagsire _IS_ the most savage creature in existence. Look at it's stats and then absolve the fact that this thing used to tank Zacian. Z-A-C-I-A-N. Quagmetal
More of a very narrow silver bullet. Like you can't force Quagsire everywhere, but when it winds up exactly where it needs to be it stops nonsense cold.
According to all known laws of competitive battling, there is no way that a Quagsire should be able to battle in ubers. Its stats are too low to get its weak movepool off the ground. The Quagsire, of course, battles in ubers anyway because Quagsires don't care what metagamers think is impossible.
@@nerdstop5025 Considering Wooper alone can slap Arceus into the Shadow Realm (without arms), Kyogre would be a mild stroll through the park for Quagsire
I really wish they were planning on making more mega evolutions, solely because I want a Mega Quagsire where he looks exactly the same, just slightly bigger Seems like the only possible choice.
Jacob Choi literally any other pokemon in gen 5 woud've been better with mega over audino, i was honestly hoping for mega gen 5 starters, mega krookodile, hydreigon, and maybe zoroark
@Jacob Choi Meh, you know as well as the rest of us that Gamefreak is saving Mega-Hydreigon for the eventual Gen5 Mega/Z-Move remake where Ghetsis will roflstomp us all over again...again.
@ARTEM DORDZHIEVHim too, although Kyu B was overshadowed and niche at the time. Also, Quag will survive anything but freeze dry at plus one and haze Kyu B, so it's still not a bad matchup.
@ARTEM DORDZHIEV I said physical attackers, not everyone. He still loses to Mewtwo(Not if they use psystrike), definitely Kyu W, Reshiram, and Eternatus. Lunala gets completely crippled by toxic though. The only counter is eterna.
@ARTEM DORDZHIEV My original comment expresses exactly what I want to. I said he walls half the tier, which is true. And the only pokemon who can kill him with a neutral special attack are Kyu W and Eternatus. Iirc if Mewtwo can do it, definitely can't with psystrike, I don't think Lunala can do it without a life orb or specs.
"This thing has been played in literally every tier" Taken up to eleven as of the current gen VIII metagame (Isle of Armor). Quagsire is PU by tier, but can be used in every single one all the way to AG. Truly, Quagsire doesn't give a sh*t about tiers.
Lucario? Charizard? Gengar? Snorlax? Greninja? Mimikyu? Flygon? Eevee? Cinderace? Nah, im a man of inspiring quality *presents 6 party slots full with quagsire*
Also known as the "blank stare" lineup, these fascinating builds are completely unaware of their competition, even if they just inexplicably beat them. Nobody who has fought this team has ever survived with their sanity intact, thus cannot explain how they lost...
Quagsire is that kind of friend who is loved by everyone just because of their happy-go-luck attitude. They're carefree and while not the best at doing things, are still accepted by others. They don't care about being the best that ever was, they just wanna have fun. Like you said, we should all be like Quagsires.
Mega Quagsire would look exactly the same, have a general boost to its offenses and defenses, and keep the Unaware ability so it can still be Quagsire.
Can we all take a moment to appreciate how Quagsire's special attack animation in ORAS and XY just looks like hes trying to sing and just goes "BWAAAAAAAAAAA"
Quagsire, to me, represents the best of the Pokemon metagame. It's a niche Pokemon, with mediocre stats and only a decent movepool, whose every role can be filled by something that does it better. Despite this, it continuously manages to defy expectations, show up in tiers considered superior to it, and screw over anyone who it catches off-guard. THAT is what Pokemon battling is all about: proving that you can win no matter what the numbers may say.
@@mrorcadood Meganium? Eh, it's kind of similar, though not as potentially destructive to an unprepared team. Though its numerous weaknesses mean it's got more trouble trying to stay alive.
@@kellenrist3973 ehh... you saw in the video how quagsire had lots of competition for roles with better stats, and its movepool and abilities have thrown it into places you'd never imagine it would be in. Meganium just gets outclassed every which way it tries to turn, and in every tier it has a pokemon that's better than it. Most people who use Meganium only use it because it's cute. (like me lol)
@@mrorcadood Yeah, but like Quagsire, its strength comes in being able to do lots of things. It can set screens, spread status, heal allies, wall enemies, and dish out damage. There are Pokémon who are able to do all of those things better, but not many who can do all of them at once, and fewer who can do them as well as Meganium. Now, it's still not great, but it fills a clerical role well.
Quagsire has proven its worth in Sun and Moon as a counter to Tapu Koko, Alola Marowak, Inceneroar, and a few more. Once again, Quagsire's stupidity and not giving a crap has payed off, which is why we love it so much.
@@justarandommimikyu8474 Now it's UU in Gen 7 and the best Zacian's counter (The best pokemon available, maybe even at M-Rayquaza's level) due to being so dumb. Quagsire is just like "Quagsire goes where he pleases"
Something about the "MAN I don't @#$%ing know." cracks me up every single time. As if, like, wtf is Quagsire doing. Is it doing good? Is it doing bad? It...just... MAN I don't @#$%ing know. LMFAO
Update for Scarlet/Violet, Quagsire is still in gen 9! What’s more hilarious is that he has a brother! Introducing Clodsire! Grass possess no problems for his brother. Being poison neutralizes grass and with water absorb, Clodsire happily showers itself with water! They both also can be unaware the world around them. His brother is more physical than the original Quagsire. Still though, both sires happily accompany each other!
@@Giratina575 Indeed! Derp sire brothers! XD Non competitive wise, the community overall loves Clodsire! Big, squishy, and derpy looking, the poison Pokemon is very loved Competitive, as of right now, Clodsire gives off as a respected Special Defense. Being able to utilize Unaware, Clodsire ignores the stat changes and his Special Defense is pretty high. He also possesses moves such as Recover to make him last longer than usual. Overall, Clodsire is well loved and respected much like his counterpart Quagsire XD
Sword and Shield update: We did it bois! Our 'sire of the quagmire has acquired the ire of tier list criers! Quagsire has found a niche in Ubers once again!
@@hockeycrafter6086 Who else but Quagsire? He's Quagsire, Quagsire, You never really know if he's there or here. He's Quagsire, Quagsire, "Herp a derp a derp a derp, What's a tier?
there's a name for these types of pokemon but I forgot. pokemon like ditto and smeargle that are PU by tiering but can be played very well in higher tiers if the player knows how to use them well
Ironic that the most blissfully ignorant pokémon of all time had taunt as one of its biggest weaknesses throughout the game. It can shrug off tier placements and literal blows to the head no problem, but insult it, and it completely loses its cool. In any case, I vote meganium. The other shoe's gotta drop sometime.
Unaware should have been given a hidden effect, where moves like Taunt are ignored. It would have been very true to the pokemon that get the ability...and who knows, maybe it would make the ability selection matter more than just asking, "How many Kyogre will I face today?" :)
You KNOW you're an expert on the meta when, after spending a whole video analyzing a pokemon, you just say "Man I don't f*cking know" or maybe quagsire is just that good
How could you NOT love quagsire? It has mediocre stats, lots of checks, and it's clearly stupid, yet it keeps kicking ass and annoying everyone no matter the tier it's in. Respect.
Daniel Llanos I fear the day Quagsire gets buffed. This thing is an abomination on Hardcore Stall teams, and the last thing Singles need is Stall buffs.
I don't know about that. Despite it's utility, quagsire it's nowhere near to being used frequently by players compared to other mons. Sadly, this pokes don't get that much love to deserve the treatment.
Daniel Llanos The reason Quagsire doesn't get enough usage is that aside from Hardcore Stall Teams, quag is dead weight. Take Toxapex for example, amazing on stall while splashable on balance teams. If Quagsire gets buffed to the point of being viable on other teams like balance, Stall wil be unbearable.
MD3 Fan I agree, but it is also because quagsire is one of those pokemon that are seen as average, and people tend to use badass and more known mons like garchomp, metagross, etc, overlooking its potential.
This is genuinely a video I keep coming back to when I'm feeling down. Quagsire and slowbro are two of my favourite water types and it's weirdly uplifting to know that those two are tearing up the tier list without a single thought in either of their heads
As someone who's played around with Ditto a lot, I think I can answer this. Before gen V, Ditto was awful, setting up with transform means a dead ditto before it can do anything. Beginning in gen V, Ditto was pretty decent, because with a choice scarf and imposter it can outspeed anything. Playing around ditto is surprisingly difficult, because imposter copies setup, so Ditto is one of the best counters to setup sweepers in the game. If your team can't handle your +2 attack Garchomp, Ditto can just sweep you. Ditto plays really well against aggressive teams, but can do pretty poorly with stall teams. Ultimately, how good Ditto is depends on how well designed your opponent's team is to counter itself. If you have a garchomp and five pokemon that can be koed by earthquake or outrage, you're in trouble. However, Ditto's reliance on choice scarf to guarantee getting off an attack means that it can be played around, moves like protect can pretty much guarantee a free switch if you have one available to you, so its still not top tier.
Quagmire is like that happy kid who was always told by his teachers he would never amount to anything while still blissfully unaware of life’s issues and still manages to succeed in his own special way.
@@PokeBattlerJaze so quagsire went to serve the military and was notoriously good without really trying and not being aware of how even when being praised he was getting yelled at?
"And not much changed about Quagsire in the transition to Gen 6, as it probably watched the emergence of Fairy-types and had absolutely no cogent thoughts about what that meant." Guess Quagsire and I pretty much share the same trait, eh? Being unaware to the world around us.
Fun fact: in May 2016, during usual tier shifts, Quagsire moved from NU to... OU? at once? That was due to the rise of Stall in OU. Still, it jumped THREE TIERS? June? still there. July? hasn't changed. Still hanging on. It took until August for it to drop to UU, but by September it was RU, and October had it back in NU. Just to show how crazy this thing is.
Thing is, when rises happen they rise to the tier that uses them. If something in NU becomes popular in OU it'd make no sense rising it to RU when it isn't used there. But yeah, metashifts that favor stall usually meant Quagsire got better.
Quagsire has always been used in OU. It's just about meeting the usage requirements and with the Unaware ability it has a role in stopping setup sweepers on stall teams. So when stall becomes good/popular, it usually means Quagsire got better also. Although in this specific example it is due to a stall team that was really popular at the time.
Gen 6 and 7 Octillery is a Pokemon that's basically screaming: Octillery: Can I have a Mega Gamefreak? Gamefreak: No! Octillery: Okie Dokie! I'll stay in PU...I guess....
This one is my new favorite lol After the Smeargle one. There’s something really funny and heartwarming about Quagsire just showing up in higher tiers and doing whatever it wants while the other mons are like “Wtf...?”
Quagsire was actually OU for a while in ORAS, then some of the stuff it dealt with got sent to ubers and also the meta just shifted and made quagsire a niche pick, again.
I was surprised it wasn't mentioned when it went to OU when Baton Pass chains got popular and lead to Clefable rising as an Unaware user over Magic Guard
Honestly I'd love a "How good were the Water/Grounds actually?" Because there has basically always been a presence of at least a couple punching above their weight class, whether it be Seismitoad holding Sword and Shield together when Dracovish was allowed, Gastrodon winning two world championships, Swampert defining several metas, and Quagsire not giving a s**t what tiers are.
Unaware is such a fascinating ability. You're basically forcing your enemies to fight without the power creep that defined future generations as setup moves became more common. Way to keep everyone honest.
Really?! The guy who tells about the Pokemon's competitive history in these videos told that Quagsire got into Ubers once but only for the sake of checking Kyogre!!
Reckless, Access to such incredible moves like Close Combat, Brave Bird and Double-Edge or Return... But seriously moved apart from OU, probably because its defensive stats.
Reckless and Intimidate are two very great abilities to chose from. Also it has a strong moves but not that huge pool to choose from. Also look at it's hairdo! That is so fucking punk!
A Ghost ok in gen 3 Very good in gen 4 Bad from gen 5-7 it just got outclassed by garchomp and now it had ddance over chomp but there's still zygarde. Unless it gets a mega it won't be very viable in OU
Swagford95 well we don't know yet when they make gen 4 remakes they probably would make megas. Imo it was dumb for them to release so many megas at a time. It would be better with like 5 or 8 megas a game like for example in the gen 4 remakes give the starters a mega and give iconic mons megas like staraptor, honchkrow, luxray, gliscor(new lando maybe) but that's just my opinion
I'm here after defeating Cynthia with a level 55 quagsire with unaware. She tried swords dance THREE TIMES with garchomp and laughed as I toxic it away. Quagsire is god 🔥
No wonder why quagsire doesn't give a shit about anything, it's literally in every teir except NU/PU ._. I wonder what tiers gamefreek wanted quagsire to be in
@@matt54740 Given that all of its base stats end in 5, it would be cool for it to just get small buffs of 5 across the board to end in 100/90/90/70/70/40, or even just raising its physical and special stats by the same amount. Quagsire clearly only needs a tiny numerical boost to become truly effective.
I remember liking quagsire way before all these walling potential, when i discovered unaware however, my pal who shellsmashes his cloyster had absolutely nothing on me.
It was amazing... According to all the dumbass six year olds that kept using it in OU despite the fact that there were literally a dozen better options for a ground type in OU
This video is giginv me goosebumps no matter how many times I rewatch it. The ending is just like the conclusion of a fairytale! One of the most iconic and best episodes ever for sure, and forever in my heart :>
I keep revisiting this episode a lot, Quagsire's skyrocketed to one of my favorite pokemon just because of how doofy he is, both aesthetically, and from a competitive standpoint.
"How good was Quagsire? Man I don't fucking know." Legit the most honest thing I've ever heard. Anyone on P.O back in gen 6 knew that thing could run a train if you didn't have the right thing to keep it in check. Other times you'd laugh at it when it came out.
Quagsire in Gen 7: Smogon: Your stats suck and you're RarelyUsed. Quagsire: ..... :) (Current B- Viability Ranking in OU). As for its Water/Ground bretheren... Swampert? Dropped to total irrelevance in OU. Only its Mega is doing anything viable and that is only in rain. Gastrodon? Plummeted into PU. Seismitoad? Lol. As the video says, Quagsire just does not give a fuck about your tiers or "niches". It goes where it wants to go, and does whatever it wants to do.
its a bittersweet feeling, because my favorite pokemon are swampert and quagsire. I'm happy that quagsire finally got the recognition it deserves, but my other baby swampert :(
I like the implication of unaware being that a max attack boost is only a boost if your Pokémon thinks it’s real. If you don’t think it’s real, then that attack boost means nothing
>shows up in any tier completely unannounced >is either a complete wall or dies immediately >checks zacian crowned >is not capable of elaborating further >leaves until it comes back suddenly again
I just love quagsire. There is nothing I love more than a game character that defies tier lists, making it difficult to say if it’s good or not. It’s as based as defying destiny or a prophecy.
Quagsire is the epitome of Smogon’s fails as a competitive organization. He’s here, he’s there, he’s everywhere. What tier is he in? Quagsire the Unaware!
Back when gen 5 was the current gen, I used him on my UU team to fight Ubers. I swear they never saw the Unaware ability coming. They all thought water absorb. Then a nice swift counter lol
Smogon is based on usage. That's why they sometimes make up high tier strategies for Pokemon in RU or lower or why they tend focus on something being outclassed even though it's OU
Freaking love Quagsire, he's so derpily amazing. It always shocks me when I see him ranked so low but then remember, how completely unaware he is to that and keeps being great..... if only my other favorite pokemons had that potential.... looking at you Jolteon and Mienshao...
Quagsire reminds me of the qoute "local man too angry to die" except it's "local pokemon too dumb to understand it's supposed to suck".
Fish forgets he has amnesia; remembers everything
"local fish so unaware that hes weak that he actually is strong"
I'm legitimately crying over how stupid this sounds. Just the thought of a trainer yelling at his quagsire "HOW ARE YOU VIABLE????" and it's only response is to just go "quag?"
@@Not_interestEd-"HOW ARE YOU GOOD!?"
Quagsire: *rapidly losing braincells*
For a second, I misunderstood "Quagsire doesn't care about tiers" as "Quagsire doesn't care about tears" and for a second, Quagsire was the most savage creature in existence
Quagsire doesn't care about the tears of the average Uber/AG player.
Fake tears shouldn't work on it because of unaware, no?
Quagsire _IS_ the most savage creature in existence. Look at it's stats and then absolve the fact that this thing used to tank Zacian. Z-A-C-I-A-N.
Quagmetal
@@ibuprofen1381 Well what if my threw my plants on it?
Not so savage anymore huh?
@Nechrotica Well,i also have taunt so u cant recover from the damage i inflict
(Also no toxic)
Smogon: You're low tier
Quagsire: What's a tier
The trick is, Quagsire legitimately has no clue what a tier is.
Nougatbar that’s why he’s unaware
People who used it: Good question
@@Nougatbars I would like your comment but it has 69 likes.....
Aquire the sire
Smogon: ok quagsire your NU
quagsire: wow I’m in Uber?
Smogon: What!!?! N-
Quagsire: Oh hi Kyogre
Kyogre: GET AWAY FROM ME
VintageUltra
Quagsire: What? Give a wave to you?
Kyougre: GO AWAY!
Quagsire: Surf!
It's super effective?!
I seriously love this set of comments.
@@gutsmasterson2488 *Kyogre fainted*
Quagsire: ...Ooh, shiny. *walks away*
So basically, Quagsire is not overused, underused or never used.
It's just... used.
It's just.... man, i don't f@$!#&% know!😂
He is just Quagsire
Quagsire is inevitable.
Quagsire is yes
Is Quagsire
So basically, Quagsire is the very embodiment of "tiers are dumb and I main who I want"
See now I want Quagsire in Smash.
More like the personification of that one Smash Bros Brawl meme.
Lost Melody giggity giggity
More of a very narrow silver bullet. Like you can't force Quagsire everywhere, but when it winds up exactly where it needs to be it stops nonsense cold.
Quagmire
According to all known laws of competitive battling, there is no way that a Quagsire should be able to battle in ubers. Its stats are too low to get its weak movepool off the ground. The Quagsire, of course, battles in ubers anyway because Quagsires don't care what metagamers think is impossible.
Blue and Brown, blue and brown, blue and brown- oh Pink and brown let’s shake things up a little
Chef's Kiss of a comment
Quagsire is a giver of no fucks.
Virgin Smogon player vs. Chad "I like it" video game enjoyer
Isn't this about Bees and Flapping ?
The very existence as well as usage of Quagsire is a giant middle finger to tier lists everywhere.
Hell, even LC
@@N_IRL LC? What's that?
@@redmage8719 Little cup, for baby Pokemon. And with Quagsire's face, I wouldn't be surprised if he was one XD
@@N_IRL wynaut
@@N_IRL don't forget about wooper.
Smogon: "Sorry Quagsire, you're Never-Used."
Quagsire: What??? *waddles aimlessly into Ubers*
AG actually
@@MurasakiTsukimaru hush, child
Quagsire appro- oh hi zacian
Me: NO QUAGSIRE, YOURE GONNA GET DESTROYE-
Quagsire: *bumps into Kyogre*
GIANT SUSHI MONSTER: *screams in fear*
Quagsire: Quag?
...
...
Quagsire: Sire. *uses eq and kills Kyogre*
@@nerdstop5025
Considering Wooper alone can slap Arceus into the Shadow Realm (without arms), Kyogre would be a mild stroll through the park for Quagsire
I really wish they were planning on making more mega evolutions, solely because I want a Mega Quagsire where he looks exactly the same, just slightly bigger
Seems like the only possible choice.
Jacob Choi literally any other pokemon in gen 5 woud've been better with mega over audino, i was honestly hoping for mega gen 5 starters, mega krookodile, hydreigon, and maybe zoroark
Mega quagmire doesn't physically change.
He just falls asleep.
@Jacob Choi Mega Audino wouldve been good had its ability been Regenerator instead of tgat shitty one it has now
Mega Quagsire looks almost the same, but angry
@Jacob Choi
Meh, you know as well as the rest of us that Gamefreak is saving Mega-Hydreigon for the eventual Gen5 Mega/Z-Move remake where Ghetsis will roflstomp us all over again...again.
It's funny because he's even better in gen 8 Ubers. He walls like half the entire tier.
Wow
@ARTEM DORDZHIEV Correct, but at the time I made this he walled every physical attacker except for Zekrom
@ARTEM DORDZHIEVHim too, although Kyu B was overshadowed and niche at the time. Also, Quag will survive anything but freeze dry at plus one and haze Kyu B, so it's still not a bad matchup.
@ARTEM DORDZHIEV I said physical attackers, not everyone. He still loses to Mewtwo(Not if they use psystrike), definitely Kyu W, Reshiram, and Eternatus. Lunala gets completely crippled by toxic though. The only counter is eterna.
@ARTEM DORDZHIEV My original comment expresses exactly what I want to. I said he walls half the tier, which is true. And the only pokemon who can kill him with a neutral special attack are Kyu W and Eternatus. Iirc if Mewtwo can do it, definitely can't with psystrike, I don't think Lunala can do it without a life orb or specs.
Quagsire just sits there
Unaware of the world burning around it
Staring
Staring
With them derpy eyes
Great poem 10/10 would main again
...this is fine...
Woop
Woop 😘😍😊🤗
Woop aww 😘
The best quote ever: “How good was Quagsire actually? Man I don’t ******* know”
Omg.It's.Micah pretty much this
Yep. Quagsire's so stupid that the universe pretty much just gave up trying to tell it that it was worthless and let it go where it pleases.
"This thing has been played in literally every tier"
Taken up to eleven as of the current gen VIII metagame (Isle of Armor). Quagsire is PU by tier, but can be used in every single one all the way to AG. Truly, Quagsire doesn't give a sh*t about tiers.
New tier: U or Q.
U = Used
Q = Quag
I guess you could say Quag is Unaware of the tiering system.
Ah yes, the Quagsire Smogon tiers:
Often Ubers, Usually Ubers, Really in Ubers, and Now in Ubers.
@@jacksongreen4107 You forgot "Practically Uber"
@@MaverickHunterVile oh yeah, thanks
Zacian crowned: I'm the primal Groudon of my time
Quagsire: imma end this man's whole career
Call the ambulance... But not for meee
Also Quagsire to Primal Groudon: Imma end this man's whole carrer
@person person You can't expect god to do all the work alone.
@person person well it get 2ohkoed by calyrex with 65 sp def, that's impressive
@person person Zacian isn't even Ubers lol
Lucario? Charizard? Gengar? Snorlax? Greninja? Mimikyu? Flygon? Eevee? Cinderace?
Nah, im a man of inspiring quality
*presents 6 party slots full with quagsire*
Tom Fawkes approves
Also known as the "blank stare" lineup, these fascinating builds are completely unaware of their competition, even if they just inexplicably beat them. Nobody who has fought this team has ever survived with their sanity intact, thus cannot explain how they lost...
That actually disobeys the rules of Species clause
This single party, breaks THAT particular clause
@@Epicgamer-eb7kk doesn't matter you get the point
Quagsire is that kind of friend who is loved by everyone just because of their happy-go-luck attitude. They're carefree and while not the best at doing things, are still accepted by others. They don't care about being the best that ever was, they just wanna have fun. Like you said, we should all be like Quagsires.
That same guy who's friends with everyone. Studies with the nerds, hangs out with the emo kids, eats lunch with the football team, etc.
Mega Quagsire would look exactly the same, have a general boost to its offenses and defenses, and keep the Unaware ability so it can still be Quagsire.
just give it a moustache and boost his stats by 30 each asides from speed and call it mega.
So you mean Hau
Who else but Quagmire
Can we all take a moment to appreciate how Quagsire's special attack animation in ORAS and XY just looks like hes trying to sing
and just goes "BWAAAAAAAAAAA"
I'll take a moment with YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Shiny Y I felt exactly the same way
I think it goes like this: th-cam.com/video/0GDcl66_W4o/w-d-xo.html
to quote Tom Fawkes: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
He's not a rabbid
Meganium being one of Quagsire's first counters is hilarious.
Quagsire, to me, represents the best of the Pokemon metagame. It's a niche Pokemon, with mediocre stats and only a decent movepool, whose every role can be filled by something that does it better. Despite this, it continuously manages to defy expectations, show up in tiers considered superior to it, and screw over anyone who it catches off-guard. THAT is what Pokemon battling is all about: proving that you can win no matter what the numbers may say.
110% agreed. I love the little derpy mudfish.
Kellen Rist unlike the pokemon we did next week...
@@mrorcadood Meganium? Eh, it's kind of similar, though not as potentially destructive to an unprepared team. Though its numerous weaknesses mean it's got more trouble trying to stay alive.
@@kellenrist3973 ehh... you saw in the video how quagsire had lots of competition for roles with better stats, and its movepool and abilities have thrown it into places you'd never imagine it would be in. Meganium just gets outclassed every which way it tries to turn, and in every tier it has a pokemon that's better than it. Most people who use Meganium only use it because it's cute. (like me lol)
@@mrorcadood Yeah, but like Quagsire, its strength comes in being able to do lots of things. It can set screens, spread status, heal allies, wall enemies, and dish out damage. There are Pokémon who are able to do all of those things better, but not many who can do all of them at once, and fewer who can do them as well as Meganium. Now, it's still not great, but it fills a clerical role well.
Quagsire has proven its worth in Sun and Moon as a counter to Tapu Koko, Alola Marowak, Inceneroar, and a few more. Once again, Quagsire's stupidity and not giving a crap has payed off, which is why we love it so much.
Jk it’s in PU now (also why would anyone need a counter to incearoar and alolan marowak in ou?)
Just a Random mimikyu And despite being in PU it somehow finds a niche in other tiers. Just... WTF
it walls tapu-lucha really well too
It walls so much, and ruins up those setup sweepers without grass coverage really nicely. Very good stall niche.
@@justarandommimikyu8474 Now it's UU in Gen 7 and the best Zacian's counter (The best pokemon available, maybe even at M-Rayquaza's level) due to being so dumb. Quagsire is just like "Quagsire goes where he pleases"
I come back to this video every so often because of how funny it actually is.
Yo! Same. These comments are also hilarious
same!
Once again
Your not alone
Something about the "MAN I don't @#$%ing know." cracks me up every single time. As if, like, wtf is Quagsire doing. Is it doing good? Is it doing bad? It...just...
MAN I don't @#$%ing know. LMFAO
I don't think it knows either, and I don't think it cares and that's all that matters.
It's just... there.
It doesn't do good or bad, it just does.
@@tomurashigaraki9770 perfectly and wholesomely balanced...as all things should be
Update for Scarlet/Violet, Quagsire is still in gen 9! What’s more hilarious is that he has a brother! Introducing Clodsire! Grass possess no problems for his brother. Being poison neutralizes grass and with water absorb, Clodsire happily showers itself with water! They both also can be unaware the world around them. His brother is more physical than the original Quagsire. Still though, both sires happily accompany each other!
The derp twins
@@Giratina575 Indeed! Derp sire brothers! XD Non competitive wise, the community overall loves Clodsire! Big, squishy, and derpy looking, the poison Pokemon is very loved
Competitive, as of right now, Clodsire gives off as a respected Special Defense. Being able to utilize Unaware, Clodsire ignores the stat changes and his Special Defense is pretty high. He also possesses moves such as Recover to make him last longer than usual. Overall, Clodsire is well loved and respected much like his counterpart Quagsire XD
Also the sires are hard counters to Zacian, an AG tier mon
Sword and Shield update:
We did it bois! Our 'sire of the quagmire has acquired the ire of tier list criers! Quagsire has found a niche in Ubers once again!
Bruh it is now a Zacian check. Why in God's name is it once again a check against the strongest mon in its generation.
DarkRose because it’s quagsire at this point we should just let it do it’s own thing and not give it a tier
I like to think it wasn't even meant to be in Sw&Sh.
It just...Showed up when no one was looking...As it always does...
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:D
@@acemcwolf5445 so quagsire sneaked past the border patrol
@@errorbirdesther He got past the border, unlike you and that horse thief over there.
"So how good was it? Man I don't f***ing know!"
nice answer
Yah pretty nice
Well, turned out it was one of the most interresting videos of this channel.
Quagsire, a Derpy type pokemon.
Shy Tenda Be like Quagsire. Follow your dreams and don't worry if no one thinks you can do it. You can kill ancient orcas like no one else can.
I don't know why, but the idea of Quagsire staring down a Kyurem-Black with that goofy smile is hilarious.
The only tiers quagsire cared about were the tears of the people it destroyed
Edit lol named my quagsire quagmire and it stuck
Just Toxic 4Head
@@hockeycrafter6086 giggity
@@hockeycrafter6086 Who else but Quagsire?
He's Quagsire, Quagsire, You never really know if he's there or here.
He's Quagsire, Quagsire, "Herp a derp a derp a derp, What's a tier?
Yeah I have caught a many a trainer off guard with Quagsire.
This was such an interesting video compared to the rest. The fact that Quagsire gets played in all tiers regardless of its stats was incredible.
You don’t see it much anymore but it’s still has that niche to this day
Still see it on OU stall!
there's a name for these types of pokemon but I forgot. pokemon like ditto and smeargle that are PU by tiering but can be played very well in higher tiers if the player knows how to use them well
Competitively good? Competitively bad?
Quagsire doesn't care, He's just happy to be here.
Is it weird that this in-depth analysis of Quagsire is kind of inspiring?
It's not weird at all
no none at all. I consider this a motivationl video tbh
nope
9:43
Quagsire is the tale of an average joe facing all odds.
No no, Joe's the cripple.
If Kazuma from Konosuba had been reincarnated in the pokemon world he'd've been a Quagsire
@@anon2447 quagsmire is the real anime protestant
5:53 I love how he slightly laughs at saying that.
Ironic that the most blissfully ignorant pokémon of all time had taunt as one of its biggest weaknesses throughout the game. It can shrug off tier placements and literal blows to the head no problem, but insult it, and it completely loses its cool.
In any case, I vote meganium. The other shoe's gotta drop sometime.
he just wants a hug
The literal opposite of “sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me”
@@yonatanbeer3475 I'd hug him
Unaware should have been given a hidden effect, where moves like Taunt are ignored. It would have been very true to the pokemon that get the ability...and who knows, maybe it would make the ability selection matter more than just asking, "How many Kyogre will I face today?" :)
@@powerhousejp This is now true for oblivious. Not for unaware though
NU stands for "New Uber"
i though it stands for "No u"
@@diegomedina9637 *Not U
nO iT stAnDs fOr neVer uSed
True
@@penggao7034 bUt ThIs CoMmEnT wAs JuSt A jOkE
You KNOW you're an expert on the meta when, after spending a whole video analyzing a pokemon, you just say "Man I don't f*cking know"
or maybe quagsire is just that good
How could you NOT love quagsire? It has mediocre stats, lots of checks, and it's clearly stupid, yet it keeps kicking ass and annoying everyone no matter the tier it's in. Respect.
Daniel Llanos I fear the day Quagsire gets buffed. This thing is an abomination on Hardcore Stall teams, and the last thing Singles need is Stall buffs.
I don't know about that. Despite it's utility, quagsire it's nowhere near to being used frequently by players compared to other mons. Sadly, this pokes don't get that much love to deserve the treatment.
Daniel Llanos The reason Quagsire doesn't get enough usage is that aside from Hardcore Stall Teams, quag is dead weight. Take Toxapex for example, amazing on stall while splashable on balance teams. If Quagsire gets buffed to the point of being viable on other teams like balance, Stall wil be unbearable.
MD3 Fan I agree, but it is also because quagsire is one of those pokemon that are seen as average, and people tend to use badass and more known mons like garchomp, metagross, etc, overlooking its potential.
Not to mention it's so cute :3
Quagsire: "Frankly, my dear Pokemon, I don't give a damn."
This is genuinely a video I keep coming back to when I'm feeling down. Quagsire and slowbro are two of my favourite water types and it's weirdly uplifting to know that those two are tearing up the tier list without a single thought in either of their heads
Especially rn quagsire is firmly uu while its regional variant clodsire is great in ou
How cute was ampharos actually?
Well, it was okay.
DeadlyInvasion Major downgrade after evolving from Flaafy and Mareep
electric sheep became bald sheep
Ampharos: I'm sorry that is not cute, it's not very good enouthe in competitive play
How GOOD was Ditto ACTUALLY?
Yeah. I'd like to see you explain that
April fools day is not far away. That is a good idea.
How good was it’s opponents?
As someone who's played around with Ditto a lot, I think I can answer this.
Before gen V, Ditto was awful, setting up with transform means a dead ditto before it can do anything.
Beginning in gen V, Ditto was pretty decent, because with a choice scarf and imposter it can outspeed anything. Playing around ditto is surprisingly difficult, because imposter copies setup, so Ditto is one of the best counters to setup sweepers in the game. If your team can't handle your +2 attack Garchomp, Ditto can just sweep you. Ditto plays really well against aggressive teams, but can do pretty poorly with stall teams.
Ultimately, how good Ditto is depends on how well designed your opponent's team is to counter itself. If you have a garchomp and five pokemon that can be koed by earthquake or outrage, you're in trouble. However, Ditto's reliance on choice scarf to guarantee getting off an attack means that it can be played around, moves like protect can pretty much guarantee a free switch if you have one available to you, so its still not top tier.
Was only good when it got Imposter usually it was used as a anti-setup or revenge killer.
@@Izaya-472
In other words, ti effectively play Ditto, your opponent has to be SUS
Quagmire is like that happy kid who was always told by his teachers he would never amount to anything while still blissfully unaware of life’s issues and still manages to succeed in his own special way.
Quagsire is Forrest Gump? I’m ok with this
@@PokeBattlerJaze so quagsire went to serve the military and was notoriously good without really trying and not being aware of how even when being praised he was getting yelled at?
@@unkindled6410 yes, exactly that
This derpy boi just jumped from PU to UU because yes
Just accept it
Quagsire is in any tier it wants
Well, Gastrodon jumped from PU to OU and stayed here like 6 months.
@He ro lmao
Lopunny went from Untiered to OU cuz of a mega.
@@rafy.h.3108 mawile went from pu to ubers beacuse mega
ProbablyUber to UsuallyUber
How GOOD was Blue-Eyes White Dragon ACTUALLY?
thats my favourite digimon
That's not a pokemon
Marie Sully the jokes just fly over your head, don't they.
This made me lol
Blue-eyes decks are the most RNG type of decks ever. Also 2 tributes for a 3000 atk card aint really worth it imo. Easily Rarely used.
Mega quagsire idea:
Nothing changes, he just gets bigger.
and all his stats get boosted by 100,
making his Base Stat Total, 1030
So it's still in AG bullying moody pokemon, mega ray and zacian crowned.
He gets the arms of mega swampert
@@memelurd7341 and the legs of seismitoad
@@kaja3932 what about dorkly marshtomp
@@kaja3932 and the Fu Man Chu of Whiscash
Clodsire in Scarlet and Violet OU killing fairies left and right: “I will finish what you started…Grandfather…”
Bold of you to assume either Quagsire or Clodsire have a single thought going through their head.
"And not much changed about Quagsire in the transition to Gen 6, as it probably watched the emergence of Fairy-types and had absolutely no cogent thoughts about what that meant."
Guess Quagsire and I pretty much share the same trait, eh? Being unaware to the world around us.
No one cares
But at least quagsire gets to go to ubers
How GOOD was Shiny Ampharos ACTUALLY? ;)
Fabulous
Lol
AMAZING IDEA
Doesn't matter I still love him enough to put him on all my teams no matter how mediocre he was
Yas plz
"Man I don't fucking know"
Lmao
Fun fact: in May 2016, during usual tier shifts, Quagsire moved from NU to... OU? at once? That was due to the rise of Stall in OU. Still, it jumped THREE TIERS?
June? still there.
July? hasn't changed. Still hanging on.
It took until August for it to drop to UU, but by September it was RU, and October had it back in NU. Just to show how crazy this thing is.
I remember that time. It was so annoying but once everyone got the trick it disappeared.
Just to wait in the shadow and crush your dreams again...
I was wondering if he'd talk about that
Thing is, when rises happen they rise to the tier that uses them. If something in NU becomes popular in OU it'd make no sense rising it to RU when it isn't used there.
But yeah, metashifts that favor stall usually meant Quagsire got better.
I know, but here's the thing: How did a pokemon like Quagsire, NU, somehow become very popular in OU in such a short timespan?
Quagsire has always been used in OU. It's just about meeting the usage requirements and with the Unaware ability it has a role in stopping setup sweepers on stall teams. So when stall becomes good/popular, it usually means Quagsire got better also. Although in this specific example it is due to a stall team that was really popular at the time.
"Quagsire is low tier"
Quagsire:this sign can't stop me because i can't read
i didn't expect for somebody to make quagsire so inspiring but you did. new respect for the derp. and i guess how GOOD was octillery ACTUALLY
Gen 6 and 7 Octillery is a Pokemon that's basically screaming:
Octillery: Can I have a Mega Gamefreak?
Gamefreak: No!
Octillery: Okie Dokie! I'll stay in PU...I guess....
'the derp' is a good name for him.
'the derp' is a good name for him.
This one is my new favorite lol After the Smeargle one. There’s something really funny and heartwarming about Quagsire just showing up in higher tiers and doing whatever it wants while the other mons are like “Wtf...?”
After ending Gen 7 in UU, and it's role in Gen 8 Ubers, I want an update. How GREAT was Quagsire ACTUALLY?
Quagsire Abilities:
Unaware
Water Absorb
Derp, I mean Damp
Quagsire was actually OU for a while in ORAS, then some of the stuff it dealt with got sent to ubers and also the meta just shifted and made quagsire a niche pick, again.
I was surprised it wasn't mentioned when it went to OU when Baton Pass chains got popular and lead to Clefable rising as an Unaware user over Magic Guard
So... Still nobody knows how fucking strange this thing is.
WTF?
We'll see it in Ubers again soon enough.
@@MidoriOfTheShuinsen Too good for Ubers, it has a niche in Anything Goes
How GOOD was Tentacruel ACTUALLY?! back to gen 1 baby!
I'm just waiting for the 40 minute documentary titled "How GREAT was Quagsire actually?"
It deserves it. It's Quagsire.
"How good was Quagsire? I don't f@#$ing know!"
Honestly I'd love a "How good were the Water/Grounds actually?" Because there has basically always been a presence of at least a couple punching above their weight class, whether it be Seismitoad holding Sword and Shield together when Dracovish was allowed, Gastrodon winning two world championships, Swampert defining several metas, and Quagsire not giving a s**t what tiers are.
And then there is whishcash
@@WillyLongLegsdragon dance
This video was surprisingly inspiring.
Unaware is such a fascinating ability. You're basically forcing your enemies to fight without the power creep that defined future generations as setup moves became more common. Way to keep everyone honest.
Smogon: hello Quagsire. You have been chosen to to fall to Never-Used.
Quagsire: YOOOOO I'M UBERS NOW!
Smogon: ...
Smogon: Well yes but actually only to check Kyogre!
@@ShadowtheTH-camr523 ...
What? That's what the guy said.
@@ShadowtheTH-camr523 ... (didn't get that)
Really?! The guy who tells about the Pokemon's competitive history in these videos told that Quagsire got into Ubers once but only for the sake of checking Kyogre!!
How GOOD was *Staraptor* ACTUALLY?
This is the coolest of birds.
Gen 4: BL
Gen 5: BL
Gen 6: BL
Gen 7: BL
It would actually be interesting to see what he has to say about Staraptor, as it's always been in BL since Gen4.
Donald Duck. That doesn't tell us much
Reckless, Access to such incredible moves like Close Combat, Brave Bird and Double-Edge or Return... But seriously moved apart from OU, probably because its defensive stats.
Reckless and Intimidate are two very great abilities to chose from. Also it has a strong moves but not that huge pool to choose from.
Also look at it's hairdo! That is so fucking punk!
How good was Flygon ACTUALLY?
A Ghost ok in gen 3
Very good in gen 4
Bad from gen 5-7 it just got outclassed by garchomp and now it had ddance over chomp but there's still zygarde. Unless it gets a mega it won't be very viable in OU
Luke awa they stop doing megas a while ago
Outclassed from the get go.
A Ghost it sucks
end of story
Swagford95 well we don't know yet when they make gen 4 remakes they probably would make megas. Imo it was dumb for them to release so many megas at a time. It would be better with like 5 or 8 megas a game like for example in the gen 4 remakes give the starters a mega and give iconic mons megas like staraptor, honchkrow, luxray, gliscor(new lando maybe) but that's just my opinion
Tiers: "I feel bad for you"
Quagsire: "I don't think about you at all"
I'm here after defeating Cynthia with a level 55 quagsire with unaware. She tried swords dance THREE TIMES with garchomp and laughed as I toxic it away. Quagsire is god 🔥
How GOOD was MILOTIC actually? Dude i can't m,ake up any more puns man. I've been on the top SO MANY TIMES YOU SAW ME I KNOW IT
Weakness Policy Milotic is my favorite bulky water type. :D
Milotic: A very good water-type tank.
what a coincidence, i've been rambling to strangers that it's weird how i have a milotic but not a gyrados these last 2 days.
We'll get Milotic up there one way or another
Emin Gani I don't much care for Milotic but I respect your persistence. You have my full support.
No wonder why quagsire doesn't give a shit about anything, it's literally in every teir except NU/PU
._.
I wonder what tiers gamefreek wanted quagsire to be in
Low judging from its stats, but it was given many gifts over the years. With better stats, it’d be totally top tier.
@@jacobdyingextraordinaire4805 they really should give him more hp and defense
@@matt54740 Given that all of its base stats end in 5, it would be cool for it to just get small buffs of 5 across the board to end in 100/90/90/70/70/40, or even just raising its physical and special stats by the same amount. Quagsire clearly only needs a tiny numerical boost to become truly effective.
Everyone: What tier is Quagsire?
FSG: Yes
Zacian: I am inevitable
Quagsire: I do not even know who you are
How good was Suicune-our bulky water type-ACTUALLY?
Gen 8, Quagsire is one of Zacian’s best friends in Ubers.
Or Zacian's worst enemy!
Frenemies
Quagsire would think they are friends for sure.
@person person This is why you bring clefable for the special side. Quag walls the physicals, cleffable the specials.
Quagsire is one of the most important Pokemon ever. It reminds me to stay positive.
I remember liking quagsire way before all these walling potential, when i discovered unaware however, my pal who shellsmashes his cloyster had absolutely nothing on me.
Thank you
*How GOOD was Donphan ACTUALLY?*
I WILL NEVER GIVE UP
Steven M Attrell Defensive tank in RU/UU, happy?
It was amazing... According to all the dumbass six year olds that kept using it in OU despite the fact that there were literally a dozen better options for a ground type in OU
+
As Smogon says... worthless. It is outclassed by Gligar/Gliscor as an entry hazard remover. But hey, at least it has good coverage
Never give up bro.
I've been sticking with Muk for 2 months.
"How GOOD was Quagsire ACTUALLY?" *10 minutes later* "I DON'T FUCKIN KNOW!"
This has to be one of the weirdest things in esports history
Lol
This video is giginv me goosebumps no matter how many times I rewatch it. The ending is just like the conclusion of a fairytale! One of the most iconic and best episodes ever for sure, and forever in my heart :>
I keep revisiting this episode a lot, Quagsire's skyrocketed to one of my favorite pokemon just because of how doofy he is, both aesthetically, and from a competitive standpoint.
You and me both. But I mainly return do read the comments. It a good laugh.
Ye
There should just be a unique tier for quagsire called "why"
"How good was Quagsire? Man I don't fucking know."
Legit the most honest thing I've ever heard. Anyone on P.O back in gen 6 knew that thing could run a train if you didn't have the right thing to keep it in check. Other times you'd laugh at it when it came out.
Quagsire in Gen 7:
Smogon: Your stats suck and you're RarelyUsed.
Quagsire: ..... :) (Current B- Viability Ranking in OU).
As for its Water/Ground bretheren...
Swampert? Dropped to total irrelevance in OU. Only its Mega is doing anything viable and that is only in rain.
Gastrodon? Plummeted into PU.
Seismitoad? Lol.
As the video says, Quagsire just does not give a fuck about your tiers or "niches". It goes where it wants to go, and does whatever it wants to do.
its a bittersweet feeling, because my favorite pokemon are swampert and quagsire. I'm happy that quagsire finally got the recognition it deserves, but my other baby swampert :(
Well seismitoad recently did rise to popularity recently as a dracovish counter
aay , dont say that to ma swamy boi
And then Whiscash... *we don’t talk about Whiscash*
Every single tier: - exist -
Quagsire: what you doing?
Quagsire is so unaware that it managed to get lost in NU only to find itself in Anything fucking Goes.
They said I could become anything
So I became everything
I would love to see Quagsire get updated with info from Gen 8 since others are saying Ubers and I'm like "That little derp is still at it."
I like the implication of unaware being that a max attack boost is only a boost if your Pokémon thinks it’s real. If you don’t think it’s real, then that attack boost means nothing
Oddly philosophical if you think about it
“Nuh-uh”
-quagsire
>shows up in any tier completely unannounced
>is either a complete wall or dies immediately
>checks zacian crowned
>is not capable of elaborating further
>leaves until it comes back suddenly again
Honestly the most motivational video I have seen all week, quagsire for life
I just love quagsire. There is nothing I love more than a game character that defies tier lists, making it difficult to say if it’s good or not.
It’s as based as defying destiny or a prophecy.
Quagsire is the epitome of Smogon’s fails as a competitive organization. He’s here, he’s there, he’s everywhere. What tier is he in? Quagsire the Unaware!
ThatRainTrainer lol What? It's because he's very good on stall and isn't good on any other team comp that's the only reason he jumped
Back when gen 5 was the current gen, I used him on my UU team to fight Ubers. I swear they never saw the Unaware ability coming. They all thought water absorb. Then a nice swift counter lol
Smogon is based on usage. That's why they sometimes make up high tier strategies for Pokemon in RU or lower or why they tend focus on something being outclassed even though it's OU
I used the Unaware Curse set (Curse/Recover/Earthquake/Ice Punch) back in Gen 6. I easily tanked setup sweepers back then, they had no idea
I guess you could say that they were the ones who were unaware.
Freaking love Quagsire, he's so derpily amazing. It always shocks me when I see him ranked so low but then remember, how completely unaware he is to that and keeps being great..... if only my other favorite pokemons had that potential.... looking at you Jolteon and Mienshao...
Acatia2 he tends to be low tier with niche roles that could be used in higher tiers. Like the Kyogre countering setup sweep countering and stuff.
Smogon: your in a very low tier
Quagsire: : D
How GOOD were Misdreavus and Mismagius ACTUALLY?
How GOOD were Misdreavus and Mismagius ACTUALLY? PLEASE!
How good was Magmar/Magmortar ACTUALLY?
*HORRIBLE*
The Vengeful 'Vadam don't forget Electivire
How good was Wobuffet actually?
Ikr
from Uber to PU
His most common ability was banned rip shadow tag 😭
Zacian: *exists*
Quagsire: I’m gonna end this guy’s whole carrier!
that would be pyukumuku
@@kheireddineattala1281 one wild charge and it’s dead
@@harrisonk2635 actually no
@@harrisonk2635 its a ground type so its immune
@@spicywhiteboi8628 pyukumuku is a pure water type
Before Watching this video.. im guessing you will say Swampert atleast 15 times