Jim Cornette Reviews Alexa Bliss vs. Randy Orton at WWE Fastlane
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
- From Episode 184 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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Randy Orton now is the living definition of collecting a paycheck.
I’m sure it’s a really big check, so I can’t say I blame him.
That's been him his entire career
He's been that for 12 years
Yeah, the good company man, just like Titus O'neal
@Michael Haney WWE has been dead in the water since 2008, Randy Orton hasn't been interesting since his legend killer days, without people like Mick Foley, Chris Benoit or Eddie Guerrero, Randy Orton has no direction, those three bought the absolute best out of him, his last gasp at being somewhat interesting was legacy, after that, Randy Orton flip flopped between heel and Babyface so many times that he just lost all appeal, without looking it up are you even able to remember any memorable Randy Orton title reigns besides his very first one?
Jeff Jarret charged 200k to get pinned by a woman
Randy just wanted his viper grinded.
200k is probably nothing to Randy. A puss rub is enough to get WWEs Virgin fans excited
Disco is a true pioneer lol
Alexa got possessed by Wyatt who can't help himself with his co
He didn't charge it. He was owed it
@@o.w.omarquito2047 and AEW fans have no idea what that is.
Someone said when Bliss sat on Orton he was doing the times table in his head to try & distract. 🤣😂
Quagmire Style 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Golden girls in bikinis
You know he took her out back and tapped it. All of them are banging eachother.
Rj SKUM Most likely. Makes sense
Till he got to 6x9
"The fiend is back to the cheers and idolations of no fucking body" hahahaahaha damn jim is cold.
Whenever Jim talks about Randy's willingness to participate in these absurd angles I'm reminded of the story he told about Austin Aries. While in ROH Aries was talking bad about the office and when Jim tried to calm Aries down Aries reportedly said "I don't get paid enough not to have an opinion." Well, safe to say Orton DOES get paid enough not to have an opinion because he has to know this is absolute garbage
Austin Aries was the guy slightly taller than Marko Stunt, Wasn't he?
@@RandalfElVikingo Slightly lol. He's actually a very good worker had some good matches in TNA and NXT. But he was also by all accounts as abrasive a human being as you could imagine.
@@daleharris3809 Yeah, I actually liked Austin Aries on TNA, but he screwed John Morrison and the whole company once.
@@RandalfElVikingo Yeah that was a weird deal. Aries seems determined to burn every bridge he possibly can
I understand when you just take the check because almost the whole wrestling business is garbage today, but you also don't need to contribute to shit on the business that made you a celebrity, helped you provide to your family and buy everything you own today and that you grew up passionated for.
"I hate it all... I hate it all. If I was ever at a wrestling event where something like this took place I'd either walk out or commit physical assault." Jim just made my week with that amazingly funny line! 😆😂🤣
😂😂
I'd have felt really sad and pissed with the current state of wrestling on sunday night when I saw what happened, but then I remembered there's a Jim Cornette to console the real wrestling fans. Thanks Mr. Cornette, you have no idea how important you're for many of us!
Blah blah
Exactly. It's like always having your grandpa Also watch wrestling with you.
I wouldn't even have anything to do with wrestling if it weren't for Jim.
Cornette knows a lot of what he says is getting him heat and views because he is a business man and at the end of the day he knows how to work wrestling fans. That said most of what he says are just honest critiques of the business that other guys like Lance Storm, Konnan and Gilbertti comment on from a similar background. The difference is Jim tends to do shoot promo on people more with Konnan coming in second. At the end of the day though it kind of makes his point that people are talking more about him ranting on certain angles and gimmicks then they do about the matches themselves.
and still you guys hate and troll AEW. Without AEW this right here would be your only international wrestling product.
Pro Wrestling did more with less in its heyday. WWE uses the over production and technology as a crutch and the shows are just plain awful. Jim's 20 minute rant and thumbnail art is way more entertaining.
Exactly ☝️Bruce blitz and tvtrax podcasts became my go to when I discovered those.
Thank the Undertaker fans.
@monte cacique What was "your day", because WWE had Mae Young give birth to a hand; the Undertaker sacrificed people; and they did a whole complicated storyline revolving around arson and murder with Kane and Undertaker for years. Plus, the Dudley Boys killed Paul Bearer at Great American Bash years later. WWE has always done silly stuff, but cinematic matches are relatively new.
@monte cacique Subjectively? Yes. Literally? No. While WWE started going "off the rails" in the 90's, it made wrestling more popular than it had ever been. WWE has still been able to churn out record profits (pre-COVID) year after year doing their thing. I like the silliness sometimes, but when I'm sick of it, I watch NXT or NXT:UK or 205 Live. They've managed to have a little bit of something for everyone.
@@al5306 That was way past the territory days. Most of that was post attitude era, and it was all stupid. 99% of the paranormal crap in wrestlibg has been under Vibce’s direction. Papa Shango sucked in 1992, but they had stuff to make up for it. Now, they dont have the talents or stories to maje up for this nonsense.
My favorite part of the match was when Alexa there her second fireball,
And Saxton said
"I don't think Alexa got All of that fireball"
Lmao
Sounds like someone announcing a Street Fighter match!
Jim straight up Rage-Quit a WWE pay per view. 🤣
"This is BAD tv...this is HORRIBLE wrestling." The great Brian Last
I'm liking how the Fiend returned under pink lights like he's in a strip club and then Alexa straddled Orton, I sense Bray's new gimmick is that he's Alexa's pimp.
the fact that would make it 100 times better is honestly kind of sad. Also you're basically saying Bray Wyatt by the way of The Godfather
@@thatonebritishidiot3037 Give Bray Wyatt a cult of hoes and I'll actually tune into RAW!
Jim is becoming his own promotion, I seen his name pop up on WWE comments. The worse WWE and AEW get the more people are listening to him
His rants are more entertaining than the show
@@karlitosway7474 True and he has a good point on a lot of things, not all but most.
This is the way 👍
That's because he explains exactly why everything sucks. Which is why AEW and WWE fans hate him, because they see "This sucked" and just stop, comment, and leave. They don't listen to anything he says and the reason why he said it.
"this is worse than tooth and nail. this was worse than football field fuckery"......holy shit Jim lmfaooo
So even the mighty Orton is on the shit list now. WWE is so good at destroying all your heroes.
I can listen to Cornette rant for hours and hours and hours and it never gets old
Vince actually hates wrestling, look what he’s done to it.
Nah, he just doesn't care anymore.
"we're in the movie business, pal"
this was great. y'all simpletons don't get it
He’s spot on : this is why nobody watches wrestling anymore.
YOU ARE WRONG!
No, this is why the limited audience sticks around.
This angle is the best.
@@brothernero2310 you on drugs?
@@MrMojoman1976 Lol, no.
I disagree, UFC and growing up is the main reason why most people don't watch wrestling. Not saying that you are a child if you watch wrestling but all of my friends that were wrestling fans all left wrestling as they grew and went to UFC at its peak now they still watch UFC and they never looked back because "wrestling is fake"
In 1986 I never thought I’d see the day where James E. Cornette would be the biggest baby face in pro wrestling. But here we are 🤣😂
This is Hogan seeing The Ultimate Warrior's spirit in the mirror, that we can also see somehow, but in a match in the ring.
You know it's serious when Jim starts ripping paper up
When Bray Wyatt was the hypnotic, Charles Manson character that looked like he lived deep in the woods and would spit anti-societal sermons, he had amazing potential. Unfortunately...
The cult leader gimmick was better than the fiend gimmick.
Bray Wyatt should have been the heir apparent to the Undertaker. WWE totally screwed that up. I like the Fiend character but Bray Wyatt could cut some amazing promos and he had the talent that most wrestlers wish they had today. Sure he wasn’t a high flying flippy guy but his character was awesome.
Unfortunately, WWE management/creative booked Bray Wyatt horribly time and time again, so much so that it became impossible to take him seriously anymore...
To be that damn good on the mic, such a tremendous TALKER, but to lose constantly. It isn't a good way to get yourself and your character OVER, to that next level of superstardom...
I absolutely loved the Wyatt family! Brodie Lee, RedBeard, Braun, and Bray, those four monsters should've been running the whole damn company!! I loved cult leader Bray and was sad to see him go... However, I also honest and truly, genuinely love the Fiend!! I feel like the Fiend is the REAL character Bray was trying to portray all along, he's like a culmination of all your worst nightmares and fears come to life! if we look at the character of crazy cult leader Bray Wyatt, well to me the Fiend is just a natural progression...his family is no more, they all deserted or abandoned him, leaving him lonely, frustrated, and hurt... Bray always spoke fondly of sister Abigail yet she remains a mystery to the fans. She tried to warn Bray about HIM, but eventually...
HE TOOK OVER COMPLETELY!!
Bray stopped resisting and just let go, and he let the evil that stayed locked up in his mind take over completely...
all of the darkness, all of the pain, all of the insanity, all of the ugliness, all of the rage, all of the hurt, all of the malice, all of the spite, all of the fury and the vengeance, all of the absolute motherfucking complete and total CHAOS!!!
that's the Fiend... I still believe that the Fiend can, should, and someday will become a legend..
Amazing potential that died at the hands of Cena in 2014. When Bray didn't win that feud, he was DONE. Impossible to care about anything he did after that
He sucked even then. Some ppl just don’t have it and IRS son doesn’t have it
Yep, wrestling sure has changed. Nowadays, we're seeing a significant lack of characters in the ring. Without these characters, the ratings are taking a nosedive. For those of us who love wrestling pre-9/11, we need more characters.
Realistic characters
But Mohammad Hassan was the best...
@@Sonjacrow nothing about Taker or Kane was realistic but it was still compelling. That’s what’s missing. You can do characters like this if it’s played 100% straight by everyone
just remember WWE and WCW had allot of clownish non pro wrestling stuff too.. nothing new.
What I hate the most is that not even the wrestlers take it seriously in social media.Well a few of them do (Mcintyre, lashley etc)
That artwork is Done MASTERFULLY again by Travis this is what i been waiting for Cornette reaction to this stupidity.
a true artiste
its always excellent and i look forward to it. i would love to see the guy do a comic book
So if a bloke was to have gone in a coma 30 years ago, he'd have just watched black slime droop from the hair of the Ultimate Warrior and now he'd be watching this.
🤭👍
Add in the black oil slime aliens from the 90s Xfiles and there’s a whole monster movie universe of goofs.
It was hated then though.
Anyone thinking this was going to be an actual match needs to get their head checked.
Also judging it like a match talking about Bray's workrate lol.
Head checks won't do shit.
Make them watch an entire UFC PPV card...from the early prelims.
@Tiger Would have been nice if pro wrestling was NOT a work but here we are
@Tiger Yes I have. That's why there are rounds.
Or, better yet, there's MMA. Now there's striking added to the wrestling.
It's not even algebra.
@Tiger They're doing holds AFTER a round ends these days?!
"Who's behind this Kabuki" 😂😂😂
The black scorpion
The Great Kabuki, the wrestler. Not kubuki, the adjective.
"Who's behind this? Kubuki?"
it's cinnamon baby
I’m with Randy, wrestling is already screwed so he might as well collect a paycheck.
I agree with you .. but his new Broken Skull sessions with stone cold, man he seems like he still loves the business
He just loves money more. As bad as Aew is, it wouldve been a game changer had Randy joined. Hes in it for the $$$ now
Oh yeah, Randy Orton is the modern day paragon of wrestling tradition.
He has some passion for wrestling when it's a title feud like with drew , but sometimes he looks bored
Idk if I really agree. Orton has the leverage to push for better angles and storylines just like Lesnar did. Lesnar would outright refuse to partake in dumb shit. Don't understand why Orton's not using using leverage here.
Couldn't click on this one fast enough..
Straight up!!
Absolutely
cliche comment
Same. I generally try to avoid listening to Cornette talk about modern wrestling, but I really wanted to see how hard he would shit on this.
@@spike3585 I'm tired of it as well. I don't watch the modern stuff anymore, at first I enjoyed him reviewing it but it's getting old since I don't watch. I'm interested in ROH though because I just listened to their review on the pure tournament.
"Crispy Critter from Cripple Creek" 😭
Jim's rant on bad matches is always entertaining.
“As soon as I saw the package, it was preposterous” - Jim Cornette
he saw a package and Randy felt Alexa on his 😂
@@tw475 dead 😂😂😂😂😂😂
That's what she said
"The crispy critter from cripple creek" bwahahahaha JC is the GOAT
😂😂😂😂
Fantastic Dick York/Cornette Face on the thumbnail. Looks like the opening credits of Bewitched.
Or is it Dick Sargeant? 🤣
Dick York, Dick Sargeant...Sargeant York!
No shit, that's what the artist was going for
What was the black shadow within Randy's hand?
The Fiend is the worst thing to come out of wrestling today.
Young bucks, Kenny Omega, Sonny Kiss .......
@@primetimecollective Don't get me wrong, those guys suck to. Definitely in the running for that distinction. It's just with all these cinematic matches, stupid special effects, and straight up no selling moves that wrecked the best of them, I cannot help but hate The Fiend more.
@@primetimecollective But you're more than welcome to try and change my mind.
@@thebigz3786 how did you feel when Kane or Undertaker did it?
@@primetimecollective A question I ask myself everytime I see the Fiends work. Undertaker and Kane no sold, yes. However, they still got beat through conventional means during matches, and never no sold to the point where they took a sledgehammer to the face like nothing. As far as burning alive, at least with Taker, you could make the excuse that he may not actually be dead, and just used a trap door to escape burning caskets. The Fiend survived being burnt a crisp. Point being, Taker and Kane did a lot of stuff where you could say it was plausible as a normal man to do, whereas the Fiends work takes away from reality completely.
I'm glad Jim's here to console the real wrestling fans. Last Of A Dying Breed
Does anyone in wrestling have a better gig than wyatt right now?
The dude barely works, doesn't really do anything on live TV, never has to sell or take crazy bumps. This guy might be Kevin Nashs favorite wrestler right now 😂
Yep, and he gets his 💩 on TV
@@o.w.omarquito2047 Get My Shit (Pushed) In!😜
Perfect timing for my commute home. I was waiting for this.
Edit: Outstanding "Bewitched" picture, Travis.
Indeed. Corny looks like Darren fo sho. Lol
The Dick York contribution to be sure. An an extra special touch would've been a tandem of Dick and Alexandria York.😎B.W.
I choked on my pretzels when Jim declared the Blissful Orton rule and that he is done with Randy
Are those pretzels making you thirsty?
The Bliss/Orton/Fiend angle feels like it was written by a ten year old girl that spends too much time at Spirit Halloween.
Is more they grab inspiration from the smackdown vs raw game series
It’s absolutely a trash can, and watching WWE fans freak out about how incredible it is ... tilts me so HARD
@@team_todd I admid as kid wished those kinds of storyline...by getting older I realized how stupid it is
Better save this fantasy for video games
@@team_todd Watch MMA
@@Ticketman99 honestly, MMA has more interesting rivalries and fighters than modern wrestling, and that’s not a good thing
"He's wearing a Toxic Avenger mask." lol
I feel bad for Toxie getting lumped in with these losers 😂
Toxie deserves better than this.
Thank you for noticing
"There's bigger fish to fry goin' on here than whether your husband got humped or not" - a sentence I'm sure many wives of Viscera's opponents have heard.
It's the spirit of Papa Shango😱😆
Talk about a gimmick that was cool as fuck!!! I was legit scared of shongo when I was a kid lmao an still love the character now what a classic!!
Man Cornette is Correct. I used to be a huge Wrestling fan but i cant even watch it for 20 minutes anymore. Even my kid brother whom is a big wrestling fan is saying its unwatchable. Its sad man
And Undertaker (An undead wizard) rising from the grave and summoning lighting is completely normal.
@@Karimmeout I can't explain 'Taker...he put me off of WWF Pro Wrestling when he debuted, but when I saw him a few years later, and I was a little older (Early 20's), it just worked, somehow...yer not wrong in what you say, though...
Is that Dick Corny York or Dick Corny Seargant? Either way another brilliant piece of work.
Probably Dick York
That picture needs more head....Agnes Morehead.
@@juicyfruit6311 Gladys Kravitz was Lenny's mom..I read it on the internet!
Just want to drop in that Elizabeth Montgomery was FREAKIN' BEAUTIFUL!!!
Why does the Fiend's hand look like bacon?
Cornette is GOLD! Love hearing this guy talk shit on the wrasslin bidness
The whole fiend storyline sucks
Bray died when Cena beat Bray years ago...
Jim is just jealous he didn’t get to take that pin 😂
Ikr lmao
We all are.
you clearly do not know Jim...
@@EXPLISITemcee this ☝
He'd rather watch his wife do the pinning.
Alexa may not have touched Randy but another part of her body certainly did
Well but technically any part of her body is part of her so if a part of your body touches smth, you could say you touched it
She pushed Orton into the Fiend.
@@Cboz1978
That's true she did nudge Randy with her foot.
The problem with modern wrestling is they’ve created their own echo chamber. They call all the wwe people superstars. Maybe I’m in 2002 they had 10 superstars. Now no one is a superstar. Not one. But when you comment that on a wwe video their stooges attack you because how can you say someone you’ve never heard of is not a superstar. So all the wwe does is create a bunch of self important people who think they’re special (just like Hollywood really) while aew has a bunch of people who think because they’re on tv and they can decide their own creative. They think they are creative while none of em can tell a bed time story let alone a serialised narrative. Wrestling is a bunch of people who get together and tell each other how important they all are and their fans who don’t know any better go along with it.
Exactly! But it's good stuff. The fans are engaged and it's like nothing they have ever seen before /sarcasm oh and then let's not forget those that try to defend their point with well if you think this is bad what about Kane or The Undertaker? Lol
@@KeroZ25Z undertaker and Kane had their fair share of garbage. The katie Vick angle. Or the undertaker getting rejuvenated by looking at an urn. But they had lots of good stuff. They had great angles and matches. So when it went wrong you kinda just got over it, and there’s also things like Austin vs rock or Bret vs Shawn that we’re going on at the same time as when Kane and undertaker were in goofy things.
@@troystaunton254 Right. But you can't tell that to some of these ppl. They won't hear of it. Lol
@@troystaunton254 9/10 undertaker wasnt too goofy. By 96 onwards Undi was a full on badass. Completely credible.
Both “big” companies are the same. If you’re a fan that has to explain to me why someone is a superstar, they’re not superstars.
This match kinda reminded me how DDP got buried by Undertakers wife in 2001.
??? These two situations are not at all comparable, unless we’re just talking about squashes in general.
@@KingKhanate1997 the squash
But times 10000000
Bewitched reference love it my all time favorite 60s TV series who ever does this sketches for the thumbnails is awesome couldn't wait to hear Cornette's take on this all time favorite wrestling manager
Mine as well...Agnes Moorehead (giggle) was stupendous, and Elizabeth Montgomery was just...yeah, grear show!
I may not agree with everything Corny says, but god damn if I don't love listening to him rant.
I like how Jim says “fxcking hell” like a true Brit 😂😂
He adopted "take the p*ss" too after his trip here lol. He also liked the dogs bollocks but haven't heard him use that one much.
"And then Randy pukes! I though he had just seen the package." That almost made me choke on my drink
At least Tommy Dreamer got his face strattled by Lita. I envy him for that
Exactly
It’s easier to name the people who Lita didn’t straddle.
I missed that was it ECW or WWE?
straddled, not “strattled”.
@@robertstraw9881 I’ve heard a few ECW stories. Sounded like she was trying to make her way through the whole locker room.
"The Undertaker Effect" and how it destroyed wrestling.
It really did that wizard bullshit gave off to me as a kid how phony it was
Only Undertaker could pull it off.
The trappings were supernatural but hiis matches were "real".
@@DenkyManner indeed, it is not like he was banishing dudes to the shadow realm in the middle of the match.
The Vince McMahon Effect
Love the artwork. Jim looks just like Dick York from Bewitched. LOL
"And then Randy Orton comes to the ring gets up on the ropes and pukes.. I thought he just watched the package"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣GOLD. JUST PURE GOLD. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Ill admit I like the character work of the fiend. The cinematic style isnt for me in my wrasslin. I prefer the cult leader Cajun bray wyatt
I would be embarrassed to admit I’m a fan of wrestling in public. I’m glad I gave up in the early 2000s.
For someone who was in yokozunas corner when he beat the undertaker at Royal Rumble 94 in a casket match then taker ascended into heaven AND a guy who gets mad as hell at Russo for saying he came up with kane gimmick, corny does like movie esque, over the top, supernatural segments as long as HES INVOLVED.
Cornette has stated "floating" Undertaker was unnecessary and goofy, multiple times
Bray seems like an example of someone given creative control, who has lots of ideas he gets excited about, but very little focus or forethought. He comes up with these gimmicks that seem really interesting, but then they either fizzle to nothing, or jump the shark so spectacularly (with a triple somersault, streamers and a laser light show) that the shark gets over excited and bursts into flames.
You think he likes what they are doing with him ? Recently, someone on the Konnan show talked about how he met Bray sometime after HIAC 2019 . Well apparently, Bray didnt like that match at all , and whats even more interesting , he predicted everything they would later do with the Fiend . He wanted to do something entirely different , something with the illuminati I believe , and while everyone backstage understood the concept perfectly , Vince didnt . And the rest is history .
Wait.... you actually think this was his idea? It's not even in the ballpark of what he intended the character to be.
The weird but well thought out John Cena stuff last year... that was Bray. This shallow bs has Vince written all over it.
I mean, do you honestly think Bray would book himself out of his ability to tell a story? The same guy who was laying the groundwork for The Fiend 5 years before anyone else had even heard of it?
@@brettperry3737 It's really interesting to read this. I wasn't aware that was the case! I'll try to look more into it
@@djordjelalic8041 IRS after he left confirmed that most of the stuff involving the Fiend is all Bray. The children's show brainwashing angle was WWE's idea.
"This made me so angry! This was the worst thing I've ever seen!" -Brian
"Katie Vick" would disagree with you
At least that wasn’t on PPV
The Mighty Igor..ok the guy who played him...getting dug out of the ground by Kevin Sullivan in Florida in the mid 80's disagrees
If someone was in a 30 year coma and they woke up to see Bautista rising from the Ohio river for Jim in OVW they would have said fuck that and turned it off
It's kinda hypocritical of Jim Cornette to bury the Fiends act and character because HE CREATED Batista's GOD AWFUL Demon of the deep swamps gimmick Leviathan! And Batista hated that gimmick and that would of never gotten over on Smackdown!..
Is OVW on par w WWE or AEW?
He also helped w the Kane character development. Difference is Kane,Taker,and Papa Shango could actually work a match.Batista was a Smackdown nobody until he started hanging out w HHH.
@@jamaalmoses8821 Look through the comments here. Many are saying "wrestling sucks today promoters from the 80's/90's were better". The truth is they did as much stupid shit, like that Bautista gimmick Cornette came up with mentioned above, as AEW and WWE do today but because they weren't Nationally televised it wasn't noticed or critiqued.
@@Official_WaltClyde But neither did Deacon Batista
"Who thought Alexa Bliss should be a professional wrestler? How was that a good idea?"
Come on, Jim. Alexa has proven herself to be an excellent professional wrestler apart from any of this stuff.
She really isn't she held the division back when she was on top, RAW lost nearly 1 million viewers during her reign of terror.
@@DayFul Right, that was her fault. Good Lord.
Isn’t she the girl that refuses to take most bumps, even the most simple ones? I could be wrong
@@EliC09 Last year at wrestlemania she got carried by Nikki Cross who worked 90% of the match, Alexa still got the pin on Kairi Sane who deserved far more from WWE.
@@TJDious Bayley this is your life is one of the worst segments ever and her matches where several steps below what Sasha, Bayley and Charlotte had been doing the year before.
Since this spectacle was televised I can only wonder about the ideas from Jericho and Moxley that were rejected.
Bro I got it teletubbies adult entertainment 🌞
Why do you have to think about it? Both have openly said what kind of ideas they were, Some of them weren't bad in 2018 Jericho suggested an Interpromotipnal match between NJPW & WWE. IWGP IC Champ vs WWE IC Champ at SS
Oh yeah, if only Jeans Ambrose got to do his stupid fucking exploding barbed wire match in WWE. That would have been ratings!
You're seeing how a lot of that played out in AEW.
I had my wife watch this match and she said and I quote "What in the days of our lives, Marlena bullshit was that?"
Usually agree with Cornette but this time around he’s missed the mark. Undertaker and Kane were doing this type of stuff back in the 90s, WHILE CORNETTE WAS THERE.
@@jasonjimerson7046 But Taker did “sacrifice” people and turn them in to his minions in the ministry, Mideon for example. Point is, they’ve been doing the paranormal shit for decades.
thank you! someone else saying what i have for months! Jim just shits on everything now because hating wresting is "Cool" at the minute, I don't agree or enjoy everything WWE/AEW do but I enjoy aspects of it and Alexa/The Fiend has been something that's kept me interested.
@@DLFLux well Jim has said before he didnt like it then either so...
@@AllEliteSatire he may not have liked it but could definitely see how it was a draw, so even though it wasn’t his cup of tea he still (even to this day) shows respect to guys like Taker. Which just goes to show that’s he’s just shitting on this now for the sake of shitting on it.
@@DLFLux He does shit on the attitude era quite frequently though.
And to be honest, rightfully so. All that paranormal drekk, wasn't as big a draw as people remember.
There's a reason "This Tuesday in Texas" failed to draw a dime. Despite Hulk Hogan headlining it.
Geez, Cornette destroyed Bray Wyatt so badly here that he's never going to watch any match involving Mike "IRS" Rotunda or Blackjack Mulligan either
JC is still stuck in 1986. I get that this supernatural stuff isn't everybody's cup of tea but cornet just seems like he doesn't like anything that's pertains to wrestling anymore. he always has something negative to say about somebody
@@donaldlandmeyer148 the fiend has more in common with a bad horror movie than anything wrestling related
@@donaldlandmeyer148 well, he has a point because wrestling in 1986 was far more popular than wrestling in 2021 so whatever they did in the past was far more effective in attracting an audience than what they’re doing right now
Lot of people do like this Bray/Bliss stuff though so...
Because we have taste and are not grumpy old men
@@AmazingGuy13 Yeah there is that lol, personally i love this supernatural stuff always have going back to the early 90's. And Alexa is killing it in this role.
Wrestling boomers yelling at clouds, pissed off because nobody knows who they are anymore.
No it's just stupid. But I have to say bliss makes this tolerable. I used to love the funhouse but I know they make it suck.
@Ihate TH-cam and others pay to watch
“I’ll come like God’s wrath on you”
- almost every straight male to Alexa Bliss, probably
Jim said he wasn't going to review this. But I knew he wouldn't let us down
Jim "For Da People" Cornette
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If he didn't review this or aew what would his shows be over ? Just interviews? He hates lots of personalities and others would probably get chastised/ are probably forbidden from doing a show with him
@@generalbuttnaked5409 I was making a joke and you ruined it by taking it too seriously. Of course he was going to review it
@@jeffreymark475 he's done it before
The Fiend now looks like a melted jack-o-lantern. Good luck evolving the character from here because feels like the end of the road to me.
Far from it
I hope it is I hate this The Fiend character
Oh God, it got worse. Anyways RIP Windham 🙏
Rest in peace Windham Rotunda Aka Bray Wyatt aka the fiend aka Uncle Howdy
He was not any good
The thing i like about Jim is that, he call it as it is. Doesn't care if it's WWE OR AEW unlike uncle Dave who see no wrong in whatever Aew does.
I don’t agree with many things Jim says, but damn this guy is entertaining
Imagine if the wrestlers had half of what cornette had, they used to😅
Same...lol
I didn't agree with how Bray Wyatt and Alexa Bliss are bad. I mean Bray has basically been carrying the company for 1 year and a half up until now
So Jim's Christmas card list just keeps getting smaller and smaller.
An atheist celebrating Christmas?
@@snubby4624 fine the people he's inviting to the "hot tub" is getting smaller. Better for ya?
@@Justin-bo5pg No.
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He still had a Christmas card list at this point?
All cornettes collectibles and he can rake it in all for himself through it elsewise, its better than buying bad gifts you don't care about
Wyatt and Bliss are the best thing in wwe. Kane wasnt a joke. Nor was undertaker. But lets not pretend this is the first time they did elaborate storylines with supernatural effects.
This is what I don’t understand, why Jim hates this kinda shit when just as silly of stuff was going on back in his day and Kayfabe still existed at that point. Everybody knows it’s a show now so what’s the big deal. This podcast literally ruins kayfabe more than The Fiend/Orton shit. He literally gets on his show and reveals all the secrets of the biz and then gets pissed off that the biz has evolved past big Neanderthals doing leg drops as finishers. It’s entertainment, everybody knows it’s a work. Get the fuck over it. Maybe Jim should start his own promotion again and see how well it does with his archaic sensibilities running shit.
I love Jim but he is literally the old man yelling at the clouds meme.
@@youngnastyman I agree bro sometimes he be hating to much like it ain’t that serious
@@youngnastyman What you truly don't understand is that people have the wherewithal to realize what is a compelling story and what is intelligent insulting drivel. No one is saying the supernatural/silly stuff is bad, no one just forgot about Undertaker or weird masked mystery men or any of that. The problem is these writers today just can't write, they have all the gold in the world, tech, talent and yet they choose to weave it into to toilet paper and wipe their asses with it in the middle of the ring, because that's the best they can do with it.
It's also not about kayfabe anymore, it's about suspension of disbelief, theirs a right way and a wrong way to do it, and they're doing it wrong.
When mankind first came around i was like 6-7... Terrified me...once they started those mick foley promos he became more human to me.
Orton's wife versus Alexa is going to end up getting more heat then the whole angle. Then they will try to book a match between them somehow. People cannot be mad when critics say wrestling is campy television when it is intentionally hookey now.
I'm supposed they didn't pipe in the Nostalgia Critic porno music when Bliss"pined" Orton.
@@YTfan24 Cue the Val Venis intro, or the NWO theme....
People really need to calm down about wrestling. Neither AEW nor WWE are the worst things in the world and goofy stuff has happened in wrestling since forever
You can dislike it, fine, but don't act like old WWE never did goofy stuff and they're going down purely because of it
These same people refuse to watch MMA. Lol
@@Ticketman99 It's hilarious
@@Ticketman99 exactly! Corny and the folks complaining about fake fights like they can't watch real ones and get all the storyline they claim to want. Realistic pro wrestling is an oxymoron.
@@jstun2318 I’d love to watch an MMA match with Cornette just to see if it holds his attention span.
It's obvious a lot of people's main purpose of watching or discussing wrestling is to shit on it. I get it but you can't expect everyone else to watch that way. Hell Jim mostly just praises pre Attitude Era wrestling.
There were two good wrestling matches at the PPV and Rollins vs Nakamura was decent too. But why discuss the actual good matches when you can shit on the bad....
Not to bring up AEW but that Pinnacle faction promo from MJF was good. Instead of enjoying that you had people choose to go "but but but he was apart of another group , FTR shouldn't have lost the belts". It's like damn can ANYTHING be judged without overthinking it?
If Alexa Bliss can do all this Garbage Versus Randy Orton then why can she not do them against other female Wrestlers?!...
I see you’re a man of culture
matter off act, outside of the royal rumble when was the last time bliss actually had a match
against another female? i cant remember
Tell to be fair she gets to be relevant and on TV without having to wrestle. She isn't terrible in the ring or anything but maybe this will lead to more women who shouldn't be in the ring doing other things ie Lana and Dana Brooke.
At the very least this ought to lead to her being in a USA show of some sort. As stupid as the angle can be she is great acting.
If you are finding this whole thing too far out of anything...why are you not watching MMA?
Great Bewitched reference in the artwork. 🙂
That wa the FIRST thing I noticed. Dick York!
Lol I just caught that!🤣👍
Wishing you all the very best.
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stoked for A&Es wwe Legend series!
Fiend is basically a mash-up of Undertaker/Kane/Mankind with none of the charisma or talent of any of them.
If this was Taker or Kane done this they probably like it way more lol
Fuck no, this segment was utter dogshit no matter how you slice it
@@Ital890 no it wasn't it was a classic horror villain resurrection and if you dont like it go watch real sports or aew wwe always had stuff like that Voodoo with pappa shango possession with the undertaker forced marriages murders teleportation god damn bogeyman wasa thing like come on this is fine and it works for the character enough is enough with the blind hate
No, because they did it differently, still pretty stupid but not on this level
@@ariklion37 Dude no I need you to legit rewatch this segment and then go watch Kane and Undertaker segments from the mid to late 90's. There was a subtlety to the way supernatural segments used to go, and as crazy as it sounds they actually MADE you suspend your disbelief and kinda take the supernatural shit seriously.
This Fiend shit is garbage, it's overproduced and quite frankly makes pro wrestling look like a fucking joke.
@@Ital890 bro taker got resurrected at wrestlemania he also possessed a god damn interviewer to spook randy orton hi killed paul bearer with cement he threw edge to hell at hell in a cell no bro just no stop you either like all of it or none of it that is just favouritism because the other stuff happened when we were younger
It’s crazy because there is something about this whole angle and Bliss and Bray that I want to like. But every time, I get smacked back to reality and I hate this, and myself.
I live for the moments when jim cornette snaps and goes on a rant lol
The "not watching" so many matches, when your current career is reviewing these shows, really bothers me. Jim skips the matches that would give us the best content.
Yea he doesn't understand it
@Ihate TH-cam how? When I'm agreeing with homeboy
I feel the same way. We watch to see what he thinks about the matches we see or hear about. The least he can do is watch it....
I used to love Alexa as a wrestler, I miss her being a wrestler..
Ronda Rousey seriously hurt alexa and almost ended her career
Right I know but she was cleared I think. I think she did wrestle when she came back.
Only so many bumps in a person. A woman will usually have fewer than a man, and a smaller woman like Alexa will have fewer than average usually. I like the wilder storylines, and I like to think we’re not going to have to worry about seeing Alexa Bliss crippled on live tv today too.
Can blame Ronda Rousey for that. She f**ked Alexa up permanently I believe.
She wasn’t all that good of a wrestler to begin with.
If they try this crap in front of a live audience the "this is bullshit" chants will be heard for miles
Unfortunate that Jim didn’t get to Roman vs Bryan but understandable. That stuff with the fiend was rough
Bray vs Cena's cinema match at Mania was worse than this
Agree but this was actually good this whole story is
Ya. That was Garbage McShit
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The only thing I don’t like about the criticism of this entire storyline is people saying “but he wouldn’t just stare at the fiend”...as if he didn’t stare at the undertaker appears after a LIGHTNING BOLT HIT A CASKET HE WAS IN...yet everyone loved that.
It’s a little hypocritical. And by a little I mean it’s absolutely hypocritical.
YOU ALL COMPLAIN ABOUT SUPERNATURAL STUFF AS IF UNDERTAKER NEVER EXISTED!
Undertaker could work. And so could most of the guys he feuded against.
@@patale1640 There's nothing wrong with Bray Wyatt's work. He's a fat dude. Naturally, he isn't going to be diving over the ropes. He does well with what nature gave him to work with.
good one but Taker can wrestle and Taker is a legend.. You cant compare Bliss to Taker.
Last year: Incredible feuds with Edge and Drew McIntyre.
This year: Feuds with the Fiend.
This is why I've always thought Vince never valued Orton properly. They just "use" him for "whatever" and get by.
And when he cuts promos on those guys its still great
I think that's because Orton treats it like "whatever" most of the time. If you've seen one Orton match, you've seen every other match he's having that year. (With a few exceptions where he decides to put effort in)
People are way too hard on the Fiend... If you hate watching Bray Wyatt, then how the hell did you people choke down those 12 god awful years of John Cena?
I didn't,Cena sucked then and now
@@avid2112 It's funny that many of the people who talk wrestling on TH-cam and most of the fans themselves for that matter, seem to turn a blind eye to the fact that WWE lost viewers by the hundreds of thousands every single year when John Cena was on top. Then when Cena abandoned ship, everyone acted like the fans quit watching all of the sudden. Most old school fans stopped watching during Cena's reign of terror. Unless you were a Cena mark, WWE made it very clear you didn't matter to them after 2005. Everyone wants to blame Drew, or Bray, or Roman, or Brock, or whoever else. The fact is though, John Cena and Vince McMahon chased away more viewers than anyone else by a country mile. No, were gonna sit here and talk smack about the people who came in after the flood gates were opened though, and then talk poetically about the two guys who actually crashed the ship. Honestly this crap was why I threw my hands up and stopped watching in 2016. I had endured all the years of Super Cena BS, and guys like Triple H and Vince Mcmahon cutting promos about how "Yeah, well you're still tuning in", but when these idiots started coming out of the woodworks to defend these guys and blame the new talent for not saving the lost cause John Cena left them when he cashed out, I seen the writing on the wall as a wrestling fan. This ***** isn't for me anymore. You have to be a braindead mark to enjoy pro wrestling at this point.
@@squarepickle he chased away fans??? Most of the people that hated Cena are the types who are hardcore wrestling fans anyway who aren't going anywhere.
Cena had lots of kid and female fans as well which brought in money from merchandise. He also did a ton of make a wish work with sick or dying children.
Cena like Hogan before him wouldn't have been on top for so long if he didn't bring sales and ratings. You're literally just looking at it from a grown male internet wrestling fan perspective.
Regardless of what you think of Cena, the WWE doesn't just target just adult internet fans who'd root for a Bo Dallas title reign if it meant no Cena.
I'm Bray Wyatt biggest fan and I must say this Fiend character is not necessary at all. I bought him being the cult leader/eater of worlds even though he was doing the appearing and disappearing acts. For crying out loud they had the Fiend take a lost to the 50 years old two move set Goldberg. And the burning of the
Fiend for crying out loud. This guy career has been botch to no return and the sad part is, he's well speaking in promo and a decent wrestler as a big guy and this is how they book him.
I'd gladly go through those 12 years again, if I never had to see another match that's anything like this garbage with the fiend and alexa bliss.
The most funny thing was fans booing Randy Orton during his entrance.
"fans"
What fans?
No fans. Randy even said on the recent Stone Cold Broken Skull Sessions that they pipe in the crowd noise.
He's the heel in the storyline. Crazy, I know. They tell fans in the Thunderdome to boo Orton and cheer The Fiend.
@@doubles7533 wait fr he is I thought he was like a tweener in this
Really wanted to get Jim's Opinion on this.
21:18 - perfect distinction by Jim about the differences between modern day hardcore matches, and good pro wrestling matches that were physical and involved weapons.