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IronLev - Magnetic Levitation on a existing rail
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00:00 Intro
00:10 NEED
01:55 ironlev
04:22 Designe
07:42 HOPE
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15:24 Thank you
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Nevomo MagRail Explained {Future Friday Ep272} th-cam.com/video/vJMrpa9XTRE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=0gUImce5H46faaGy
Stay on this. Keep it in the public's eyes.
I will do my best
Braking effect of eddy currents in rails becomes stronger as speed increases, can't negotiate standard points, you nailed IronLev's problems on real world rail network. :)
Really great explanations here. I wanted to learn more about how this system would operate and you hit on every question I had in mind. Great video, keep it up!
Thank you and I will do my best
Your English is impeccable and your accent is awesome. Together with your content and presentation skills, I found the video addicting. Great job, don’t change a thing!
wow this is first ever compliment about my English Thank you so much
You brought up exactly the issues with the basic physics that I noticed that this "invention" would be limited by. At least it allows you to move heavy things at low speeds really easily.
define " heavy " well lets see how it goes
@@s2tenglish We need to move hundreds of tons per car. Do the calculations and you will find that you are going to need massive magnets. That means that any movement faster than a snail's pace is going to cause the rails to heat up like they were put in an induction forge and the resistance to motion from the counter electromagnetic force caused by the eddy currants is going to be just as massive.
This is good for moving a door or other object that weighs a few hundred pounds at a slow speed on less than 1 MPH very rarely, like a residential door. Not really many other applications for it, but I could see maybe a couple others where it could replace air cushions.
Thanks for the mag flux explanation. I have been going bonkers trying to figure out how this is possible, passively.
happy to help
@@s2tenglish I recently saw another video that shown the system being considered for just people moving, on one rail. It shown the "car" as only 2 passengers.
The only use I can image this for is maybe airport terminal transfer.
Maybe this kind of system could be useful for dock systems that only go back and forth short fixed distances. Like part of a container ship?
fair point It could work
The comics of the guy are nice. Details: 1] the IronLev cart can not do turns, straight track sections only. 2] the IronLev cart, as seen, only provides 'magnetic' lift, not horizontal propulsion. ...The 'turn' problem can solved by having at least 1 of the magnet sets able to pivot, similar to how large steam engines solved the same challenge. As for #2, on the cart one sees 'large' motors. Hence, it is using rubber wheels for stopping/horizontal propulsion.
Turn as in track bend radious or railway curve radius ? Solving a problem is never an issue the cost to do so and the complexity of maintenance that follows that is the core problem
Beautifully presented video - but where do 'puppies' come into it? 🙃
puppies are everywhere
Very insightful; loving the content.
Agree with you, but if the protype work, it can used in new urban transportation
doubtfull but lets see
Thank you for more detail about this.
THIS IS CRAZY!!! Why wasn't this invented 80 years ago. Its so impossibly straightforward that it.conceivably is easier than other methods that.are still in the R&D mode today. We have been exploring every other different method including superconducting magnets. You mean, it took till recently for someone to say why not just place two magnets close together in a clamp and see if that would work????
Why did it take so long to discover an easy way? His patent shows that there are still simple ways to do things that remain to be revealed. Good job.
low carrying capacity + high flux permanent magnets are a very recent development + it has self limiting speed which is much slower than 150kmph
Would love to see how they engineer their way around the switch track issues...
Could a possible solution to rail switches be a "hybrid" wheel and levitation system? Getting out of a station with its switches on wheels, then gaining speed and levitate only on long, linear tracks with no switches. How would you see that?
complexity is the enemy of Reliability that will add too much mess
In understanding what was meant when it was said that the system is comparable with current systems, they were trying to point out that no new construction will be needed. Possibly a comparable ironlev switch if they manage to get a full rail system, but no new "construction". We both know that every current maglev system currently in use from China to that university in America, needed a full organized construction from the ground up. All of those costs are already in the ground so it avoids much of the cost of a " new" maglev system. Once the tracks and roadbed are paid for the new maglev system becomes easier to realize. That's not BS.
BS is saying time and time again it works on "existing rail" that is an issue
Germany, Japan and China cried at this after spending billions on their maglev train infrastructure 😅
fair point
Germany abandoned maglev technology.
But this is a very interesting approach in my eyes.
Japan yes but China nope
Awesome vid, I was a little suspicious of the viability when I saw the demo. This was a really good explanation of why it's not as ground breaking as it may seem.
yes they do make it sound like magic
How long would it take the magnets to wear out and subsequently polarize the rail in the direction of travel by aligning the iron atoms? Also, is it really a better solution to use rare earth metals rather than electromagnets? With modernization efforts moving towards electric anyways, the propulsion system will likely necessitate electrical connection regardless.
this info can only be gained by time and real world test & 2nd NO HECK NO HELLLL NOPE the power draw of levitation is very high
"Magentic railway" everybody like wow.
Wowwww 😮
Even if the system works a single freight wagon is gonna need around 275 kg of neodynium magnetic material to just stay afloat.
hummm
Great video, I saw their Instagram video and immediately called BS.
Cool
With no sarcasm implied... once they solve the turn problem, they can strap-on a couple of reversible turbo-fan jet engines, for the horizontal propulsion. Such is what Jean Bertin did. see Aero-Train France.
sound pollution would be BRUTAL
@@s2tenglish That's OK, then switch to Linear Induction. see Rohr Aero-Train, th-cam.com/video/ZZOczaDdn2Q/w-d-xo.html
Linear Induction who will pay for it ? See u can solve all the problem hard part is to do it in budget
@@s2tenglish You r looking at things from an Accountant's perspective. Traditionally, when Accountants run a business, the company shortly goes under. The Linear Induction method used by the Rohr Aero-Train setup, had an aluminum rail or spline running along the middle of the track, with a powered conductor at the edge. A pick-up on the craft would acquire the induced current. Therefore, a modification of the track with the spline would be a minimum requirement. For power, as a go-between, a generator could be mounted on the craft. For each power advance there are trade-offs. A motorized wheel is limited to the rotation limits of the motor. The jet engine approach has a higher upper limit, but a momentary [15 second] high sound as it passes by-standers. The Linear Induction approach has NO UPPER LIMIT, but would require track modification. To get more, you have to pay more. Current MagLev prices are between $17M and $25M per mile. Things are great when they are gold plated.
As for payment, the Chinese are renowned for their High Rail Systems. However they are built on $XB government loans, with the public opting to use instead the slightly slower but less expensive existing rail systems. Therefore, testing the market for potential ridership is a key aspect.
there is only one RULE system by which I test a systems viablity . Physics < Engineering < Economics . dady layer is Economics {Does not mean accountents should run everything HECK no } But if something that breaks Economics generaly Economics kills its slowley and alwasy comes out on top . Hyperloop , Concorde , maglev List is very long and money burnt is in billions . We have warfair for that kind of gambels . [15 second] high sound as it passes by-standers the f man thats not how it works , Please think through you IDEA crunch pros and cons never ever dump the first Idea that comes out of your mind .
Nevomo MAGLEV works like this?
Nevomo MagRail Explained {Future Friday Ep272}
th-cam.com/video/vJMrpa9XTRE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=2dvHxMYC2t4h_GqL watch this for clear Idea
How fast the speed? can reach over 500km/h??
nope edde current will limti it may be less than 150kmph
@@s2tenglish so you can't compete Japanese LO Maglev?
heck no not even close u can try using Nevomo MagRail not this
So in other words Ironlev is not sutable for world existing railways?
@@goranz9446only for urban maglev speeds not high speed
Why not use repulsive magnets instead of rollers?
because you cannot use that on existing rail. the entire track has to be modified for that to work
@@SentinelAerospaceOfficial The question is why. If the repulsive magnet can work on top of the rail, then why not on the sides of the rail?
@s2tenglish The sides of the rail are iron too, so why not use magnets on the side too instead of rollers?
I specify in the video if you have permanent magnet it will stick to one side or the another only way to get flotation out of it is utilising some other support that is why you cannot use magnet to support magnet otherwise we could have built permanent magnet bearings but we can't unless we have electromagnet to truly float it
@@copperpennymine magnetic repulsion does not work on the top of the rail. The Ironlev design wraps around the rail, essentially pulling up on the bottom of the thick top part of the rail. Magnetic repulsion only works between two magnets, and the rail is not a magnet.
is Fixing Global Warming Gradually series end?
yes I covered all the core topic
Solar powered covered rail cars with battery locomotives each with regen braking ❤ I hear prices falling!
solar cells are very fragile high vibration environment of railway will first cause microcracks then failure will happen very early so its not as blck and white as one thinks & first lets cover easy to do then FAR OUT stuff
From an article in CleanTechnica (Tina Casey) from one year ago. “Improved battery technology plus access to cheap renewable electricity open the possibility of battery-electric rail,” the Nature Energy authors explained. According to their findings, a standard boxcar could be converted to an electric tender car loaded up with batteries to achieve an all-electric range of 241 kilometers”. The article describes how the rail cars utilize regenerative braking to extend range which makes a whole bunch of sense given their weight. Given that one of the benefits highlighted for this technology was greatly reduced vibrations due to the levitation, might the solar panels be feasible? There would be less power from the regen braking but also a lower need.
@@dadofchen see I am old and I have seen 100s of tech come and go so anything that changes a lot and does not provide a lot & I mean A LOT of benifits will FAIL. Battery rail is a GO solar on top can be done unwise but can be done . Iron lev HECK NO as i said there is no easy answer how it will switch tracks that needs to be solved first
Granted, NEVOMO is already building a system along the lines of IronLev in Europe as we speak, MagRail. Europe uses more passenger trains than American and they are talking about speeds that I consider stupidly dangerous. Here in the USA our system is built for speeds where 85 mph are stretching capabilities. I DON’T have the answers but I like to realistically hope! If NEVEMO can upgrade the existing railway infrastructure in Europe to the speed of 550 kph (340 mph) at a very competitive cost as they claim then they COULD slow it down to a safer speed and add renewable power generation.
@@dadofchen so speed is not something you can add to a existing path even if u upgrade the method of locomotion. G force is real so when the track was built all the twist and turns are baked it U cant go faster in it as that will need full five point harness per passenger . Japanese maglev is not expencive because of the TECH its expencive due to right of way as in LOW to NO twist and turns or gradients if Mountain is in the way u have to drill through . For more info on Nevomo MagRail watch
th-cam.com/video/vJMrpa9XTRE/w-d-xo.html {my video }
Better than that stupid Hyperloop.
humm lets see
@@s2tenglish come on, if some old gent got a heart attack in a Hyperloop, how do you get him out?
no u missunderstand that is a very very very low bar to clear so I dont think this is that bad as I can see some limited use case
@@s2tenglish well everyone probably said the same thing before electric trains during the steam-diesel era. Then there's the bullet train.
We all speculate how will this develop into in the long run.
Ho does it relate to the Polish solution from Nevomo? Are both ideas the same, close or totally different?
th-cam.com/video/CQOEP7_euXQ/w-d-xo.html
different and I will cover it soon
NOT 100% TOUCHLESS. FRICTION COMES FROM ALL ROLLER WHEELS 😅
I dont say it is that is my core point it cant cross railway crossing points
How does magnet propel something that's not magnetic?? If this is real, it's been a month, the publicity of this company does not match the fact
magnet is not for propeltion you have to do that with other things . magnetic levitation is common thing U can buy it and test your self th-cam.com/video/qe4x8rEk0Tc/w-d-xo.html and the glass stopper is replaced by Rollers or if u want full contactless by fast acting electromagnet
@@s2tenglish That video shows a magnet hovering over another magnet with opposite poles. @kalasend asked the question, how do the normal steel train track rails force an opposite magnetic force to levitate the ironlev?
@@ChinaChuck dude just build one off maganet (I Did so Its ovious for me th-cam.com/video/Fz7rEP7Y_c4/w-d-xo.html ) or Buy the door slider . IN words the best I can is maganet wants to stuck to the head of the rail but side roller does not allow it so it ends up stuck in a magnetic flux rubber band
You know what you can do to capture more views?
Ai female voice and a cute 2d anime girl as your avatar. Try one video and if it didn't work, you can go back to your old style. Don't hate the player, hate the game
lol
Real person is better. I don't like the accent very much, but there is AI avatar technology, that can translate into english without accent.
@@vabaradikaal8755 yes aiko ai. You can speak through it and changes your voice into another voice. Tested it 2 years ago, worked like a charm and very hard to differenciate. I believe the technology is definately better 2 years later too.
You might get more views but personally I hate those AI voices and skip anything with them. They make things way more unprofessional even if they get more views.
Keep doing your thing. I would say the presentation could have done with showing the switches they can't cross more than what they could cross. Took me a little but to realise you were showing the expensive ones they would work on.
Could not understand what he was saying. Very bad English
humm where are you from ?