We rode the C&T a couple of years ago. The dining hall had caught fire and we given some stale sandwiches to eat in a tent outside the hall. We enjoyed the journey but felt the D&S was much more scenic.
I’m a little embarrassed as a travel enthusiast and a 42 year old that prides himself on planning family trips and having his kids be open to travel……that I had NO IDEA this place existed…..how is that possible? This is so weird to me, watching this and having this stupid image in my head of either absolute blank about this part of the country or thinking it was just desert and boring. This is incredible landscapes. I will be deep diving into the geology and everything else, let alone the train aspect, starting tomorrow. Thanks for sharing, one of my favorite model railroad channels by far and very inspiring to me as a not yet started beginner. But this real train video was just beautiful.
A stunning ride for sure. A group from Durango chartered a caboose and we had a great time. The C&TS is very different from the D&S but both provide spectacular experiences.
Fantastic video of your trip on the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad. I love this narrow gauge railroad and the steam locomotives. Thanks for showing and have a good time. Best regards from Germany
I enjoy all your videos but this one has been a bit special. I had the wonderful opportunity to travel the round trip on the Durango to Silverton over 40 years ago. I am now a little long in the tooth to add to my bucket list but the past few minutes have been almost as enjoyable as that trip decades ago. Thank you.
I was blessed a number of years ago to ride the C&T, the trip of a lifetime. I hope they gave you enough time to explore around the yard at Chama, I wonder if the stockyards are still there, and the two rotary plows. This is such a lovely railroad with so much history that you can feel and taste and smell, I encourage everyone to visit: if you're not a train buff when you get there, you soon will be! Thanks so much for the video!
Hi Dave for me it's not just the scenery it's also the sound of the locomotive, better than Diesel,the old ways are by far the best ( if you're not in a hurry 😊 )
We made the trip with friends a few years ago. We really enjoyed it. I hope it was great for you too. But what; No mention of the turkey dinner at the half way point? Thanks for the trip down memory lane.
Love this!! We will be doing this ride in Sept of 25. Planning to visit the Thunder Mesa then catch the Cumbres and Toltecx as well as the Durango and Silverton on the way home. Wets the whistle for that ride! Thanks for sharing Dave.
When we made the trip in 2007, the locos changed trains so the same cars stayed on the same ends of the railroad and the engines ran through. I can't remember if the turning loop at Osier had been installed by 2007. Both trains came in on the 2 tracks at Osier and stopped beside each other; the locos cut off, went through the turnouts, and backed in on the opposite train to swap the trains. The 463 is superheated and the 464 is not. These are the only K27s left, period. The scenery is exquisite. The state line is crossed 13 times but who's counting?
The loco swap happens because the smaller K-27 that we left Antonito with does not have the pulling power needed to climb the 4% grade out of Chama with a full train. So they run the larger (and somewhat newer) K-36 from Chama to Osier and back, and the K-27 from Antonito to Osier and back on the gentler grade. I imagine this also allows crews to stay with their locomotive back to their point of origin (so they don't need to be shuttled back from the other end of the line). As for the bridges, I had no concerns but I can't say the same for my wife!
Yes, something like that. They run the K-27 out of Antonito and the K-36 out of Chama due to the steeper grades. The trains meet up in Osier around lunchtime and swap locos at the loop. That way, the same train continues on but the locos (and crews I presume) return to their respective starting points.
We rode the C&T a couple of years ago. The dining hall had caught fire and we given some stale sandwiches to eat in a tent outside the hall. We enjoyed the journey but felt the D&S was much more scenic.
I love the D&S too. Both have different experiences to offer.
splendid, thanks (👍 from France)
I’m a little embarrassed as a travel enthusiast and a 42 year old that prides himself on planning family trips and having his kids be open to travel……that I had NO IDEA this place existed…..how is that possible? This is so weird to me, watching this and having this stupid image in my head of either absolute blank about this part of the country or thinking it was just desert and boring. This is incredible landscapes. I will be deep diving into the geology and everything else, let alone the train aspect, starting tomorrow. Thanks for sharing, one of my favorite model railroad channels by far and very inspiring to me as a not yet started beginner. But this real train video was just beautiful.
Thanks! And welcome to the channel
Wow!
Thanks Dave, great video.
Excellent video,Dave. You should check out New England Narrow Gauge, from Carver Mass and Maine Narrow Gauge too.2" narrow gauge.
Thanks! I'll get there one of these days
Did a little narrow gauging this weekend myself with the family on the 2 foot Wiscasset, Waterville and Farmington in Maine.
A stunning ride for sure. A group from Durango chartered a caboose and we had a great time. The C&TS is very different from the D&S but both provide spectacular experiences.
Cool video and trip.
Great video! The Cumbres Toltec is by far my favorite ride. I've been several times and it's always great. OK, now I'm ready to go again!😊
Fantastic video of your trip on the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad. I love this narrow gauge railroad and the steam locomotives. Thanks for showing and have a good time. Best regards from Germany
I enjoy all your videos but this one has been a bit special. I had the wonderful opportunity to travel the round trip on the Durango to Silverton over 40 years ago. I am now a little long in the tooth to add to my bucket list but the past few minutes have been almost as enjoyable as that trip decades ago. Thank you.
I was blessed a number of years ago to ride the C&T, the trip of a lifetime. I hope they gave you enough time to explore around the yard at Chama, I wonder if the stockyards are still there, and the two rotary plows. This is such a lovely railroad with so much history that you can feel and taste and smell, I encourage everyone to visit: if you're not a train buff when you get there, you soon will be! Thanks so much for the video!
Real coal engines🚂🚃. AweSome ride-along!
Hi Dave for me it's not just the scenery it's also the sound of the locomotive, better than Diesel,the old ways are by far the best ( if you're not in a hurry 😊 )
LOVE IT!!
We made the trip with friends a few years ago. We really enjoyed it. I hope it was great for you too. But what; No mention of the turkey dinner at the half way point? Thanks for the trip down memory lane.
Excellent video Dave. It’s a beautiful country made even more enjoyable by train!
Love this!! We will be doing this ride in Sept of 25. Planning to visit the Thunder Mesa then catch the Cumbres and Toltecx as well as the Durango and Silverton on the way home. Wets the whistle for that ride! Thanks for sharing Dave.
Another great video! I think I’m going to have to add the Cumbres and Toltec to my itinerary when I finally get to visit the States!
Wife and I have made that trip twice. Can’t wait to go back again. Thanks Dave.
Thanks Dave for sharing your outing with us! That was wonderful scenes!
That was fun. Thanks.😊
Rawesome.
Well done Dave.
What a wonderful trip!
Some of the best C&TS footage I've seen! Kudos!
Thanks Dave, What a great trip. Must have got those creative juices flowing. I know it got mine stirred up.
Thank so much for sharing,
Don
What a beautiful ride. Trains and scenery can't bet it. Thank you for sharing. That would be great layout idea.
GOD BLESS 🚂 💕 🚂 💕 🚂 💕
That was fascinating, I hope to ride it myself one day.
Thank you so much! You have no idea how much I needed to take this trip today!
Awesome trip, Dave! I can't wait for the next one😃😃
Great video! Thanks for showing!
I am travelling over from Europe in a months time to ride on the C&TSR as well as the D&S railroad. Am very much looking forward to it.
You'll love it!
I did that trip also.
When we made the trip in 2007, the locos changed trains so the same cars stayed on the same ends of the railroad and the engines ran through. I can't remember if the turning loop at Osier had been installed by 2007. Both trains came in on the 2 tracks at Osier and stopped beside each other; the locos cut off, went through the turnouts, and backed in on the opposite train to swap the trains.
The 463 is superheated and the 464 is not. These are the only K27s left, period.
The scenery is exquisite.
The state line is crossed 13 times but who's counting?
As far as scenery goes, the Cumbres & Toltec puts the Durango & Silverton to shame. Michael
So many questions. What was the need for the engine swap? Any concern going over those old bridges?
The loco swap happens because the smaller K-27 that we left Antonito with does not have the pulling power needed to climb the 4% grade out of Chama with a full train. So they run the larger (and somewhat newer) K-36 from Chama to Osier and back, and the K-27 from Antonito to Osier and back on the gentler grade. I imagine this also allows crews to stay with their locomotive back to their point of origin (so they don't need to be shuttled back from the other end of the line). As for the bridges, I had no concerns but I can't say the same for my wife!
I did the D&S, but not the C&T yet.
why the loco change ? to handle the downgrade better ? really enjoyed it.
Yes, the K-36 does the run from Chama to Osier and back due to the steep 4% grade. The K-27 returns to Antonito with the train from Chama.
Dave, Why the loco swap?
Are visitors allowed to walk through the freight yard or is this off limits?
They welcome visitors in the yard and engine facilities
Did the Mud Hen need more power and so yhey swoppd it for K-36?
Yes, something like that. They run the K-27 out of Antonito and the K-36 out of Chama due to the steeper grades. The trains meet up in Osier around lunchtime and swap locos at the loop. That way, the same train continues on but the locos (and crews I presume) return to their respective starting points.
Did I see graffiti at the beginning of the mud tunnel? If so how sad .
There was a little in Mud Tunnel. I didn't see any at Rock Tunnel.
@@ThunderMesaStudio I thought the area was to remote for that stuff. Still a beautiful ride.