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First love the show concept! Now to the rig, it has potential but missing the mark for me. First lose the wardrobe/tv cabinet, total waste of space. This gets you back a table for 2. Lagun table not the leaning tower mess they have now. Make the bed transverse with side flare bump outs for extra space. Agree move the faucet and either a glass top stove or induction. Also get the monitors, etc out of cabinets. Bathroom…yeah needs work lol. But like the drive size and overall attempt.
Personally I would give this a 1 on the Fun Factor score, the point for being on the Sprinter chassis. Otherwise really no room for gear that weekend warriors or adventurers would have: no interior garage space, can't really mount anything on roof, only real option is to put a rack on the back doors which you can do with any van. Also side note, it's always strange to me how this particular fridge doesn't seem that much bigger on the inside. The freezer is a little bigger but that's about it, for taking up twice the space! I can probably fit as much stuff in my Solis' little NovaKool with a little Tetris magic.
Outstanding review! Thorough, honest, and based on your years of real world experience. The information you've given is very useful to folks shopping for a class B. Keep up the good work!
I've just purchased Thor Tranquility 19P. Most of amenities are the same except the refrigerator and gas range. My van has induction range and refrigerator that can be opened from either side, which is very cute idea. There are a lot of spaces for paper works, cups, ect. in the dash board.. I am very happy with these details..
Thanks Scott for this review. Thanks also La Mesa RV! Will be interesting to see what adjustments they make on this model. The galley falls short for me but its good to see these new options in the adventure van space.
Great job. You brought up a lot of points that I would not have considered. I can’t wait to see more reviews from you. I would love to see your sleep system on the bed for reference like you did with the beer and plates.
Very nicely done... agree with most everything you said. The problem is always layout though, isn't it? Points matter, but if the layout isn't quite what you need, it kind of falls apart. Your GL is the perfect layout for your needs, but really not for us, since we really need the two sleeping areas and the new GL lost that. Will you ever do a point system for the Embassy? Would be interested on your take. I might do just that whenever we get ours. It would also be interesting to see a point system when you first get a van, and then after traveling, see if the points change. Be seeing you!
Your new way of reviewing vans is really excellent! I hope one day you can do one on a Coachman Beyond 22C. My husband and I are interested in buying one down the road.
@@gosmall.livelarge that would be great! Please lay the bed down then lay on it while it’s set up as two twins. I’d like to see how much room is at the feet and where the hips will land along the length.
Thanks, very helpful video, actually trying things out is a great decision tool. Thor build quality, including B Class, is among the worst, in my opinion. Galley is below par. Lithium capacity is low for functionality. Coachman, American Patriot, Winnebago and Jayco/Entegra offer better choices.
Nice review. Thanks for bring your REAL coffee pot, plates and 12 pack to see what ACTUALLY fits. As always you are one of the best in reviewing Class B's
There is an extension for the countertop but it's not convenient. I don't like the counter space, either. I would ditch that table and get one that folds up so I could place wherever. I do like the back but not electric foldout bed. Litterbox area is important!!!! TFS 😻 Britt
can you review the new Thor freedom elite 19r? I'm considering buying it its under 100k with lithium... it also seems like only camping world is selling them
Like the concept. Certainly based on your size, height and weight, things like bed size, bath size, and ceiling height could result in drastically different ratings.
I like your review concept and many good considerations. Also, thanks for giving the bed lengths! I am on the taller side and this is always a big consideration for me. In addition to my height I need about six more inches of bed length to be comfortable. There are a couple of important things I always want to know but that are seldom mentioned. First is the aforementioned bed length. Second, as a single traveler and in need of more space, can bed number 2 be removed to make additional storage space, which can be important info but may not be appropriate for your scoring system. Also, can the refrigerator shelves be adjusted to different heights. I always like to have milk and OJ, which are most often packaged in tall containers. What about 110-volt availability? As for my possible purchase of this particular van, the table and lack of storage would be deal killers. And I would have to give some thought to the cassette toiler. You are a wise person...I hope Thor and the other companies pay attention to your reviews.
I really like this practical shopping tool. What is important is how each buyer will be using the van. Not a fan of this van. Bathroom was terrible. The kitchen was so poorly thought out. I agree with Scott on the stove top. I can’t see more than one person being comfortable in it. The table mount is old school, I have that style table and want to change it for a Lagun mounted table. The sleep cushions looked way too thin to be comfortable. Also the storage, I’m curious why they don’t put a storage cabinet across the back above the rear doors. I think that omission is a waste of space. If you have the chance, look at the 19L model. I think you would really like that configuration.
The kitchen and Galley area is a big minus for me. The refrigerator is nearly useless and if this van has lithium why is there still a propane stove and not a portable induction, free up more counter space. Scott in future reviews I would like to see and hear your opinion on quality control and features of a particular van. For instance I don't know if that model is a 4 wheel drive with just standard wheels and tires or how much solar is on the roof.
Would be great tailgater, for families with kids going to sporting events, seats up to 5? Looks great in the parking lot, but can handle off roading Not for me personally but a great choice for many
Nope… and that is why I made the template you can fill out for your criteria for a van. My criteria is to sleep 2 adults, because that is what I need. Video th-cam.com/video/3gKW9EPibY4/w-d-xo.html. Download PDF here gosmalllivelarge.com/shopping-toolkit-workshee
Great review! Van isn’t for me due to kitchen area and the way bathroom is set up. EmbassyRv would be a great one to review. (My Fav ClassB) Although, I like the layout of the Travato GL.
I don’t know. Without going any further than the Truma control panel I would flunk it right there. Putting something you need to get at and adjust often at the back of a cupboard? I give that an F. And it’s a Thor which is another black mark. They are just generally poorly made, from everything I’ve ever heard about them. Someone said it would be good for tailgating, but then it really misses the mark by making it four-wheel-drive. A pricey option if you’re just going to drive it to a game. And if it has lithium, why don’t they give you a flush induction cooktop instead of a really cheap looking raised propane top? A lot of money for something that has limited functionality (to me, anyway).
@@gosmall.livelarge Cranky and critical are the names of my game! But seriously, with limited storage space in any B, the decision to put the Truma control of the back of a cupboard is absolutely nuts.
I think I've gotten things sorted out on my 19L. However, I don't want to jinx it by claiming the war is over. Everything seems to be in working order. As cheesy as some of the construction is on the van, I've really grown to like it. Here is the list; 1. Awning is and was defective from the day of delivery. 2. Lithium system wouldn't charge via the alternator . 3. System wouldn't charge on shore power. 4. Wheels were unable to be balanced requiring replacement. { my expense } 5. Drawers wouldn't stay closed while van was in motion. 6. Water pump failed after 4 tanks ran through it. 7. Clunk in driveline { Mercedes problem not Thor} 8. Offroad light cover torn , basically a rag. La Mesa said that's how its supposed to be. 9. Misinformation from Thor on charging the batteries or running the A/C by idling the van for long periods while stationary. A definite negative , as the DPF system and engine could suffer catastrophic damage. 10. Lastly, absolutely zero service or assistance from La Mesa RV in Sacramento . Even with all these problems , Im keeping the van, at this point in time. There have been many times I've considered selling.
@@crpunks #1 If you buy Thor, inspect it thoroughly before taking delivery. QC is pretty much non existent . I wouldn't buy anything Thor again. #2 Don't buy LaMesa. Their customer support after purchase is also non existent . They suck, buy somewhere else. NIRV Las Vegas I would try.
Can you help me? I have been having some issue with my 2022 Thor Tranquility Auto AC. I have dog and I have been trying to use in as I park to shop ect and have not had any success to have it run. I have also took it to the Service dept., they thought they got it fixed and it si not. I am searching youtube and can not find any videos?
I would like to see a couch that could be separated into two pieces so you could have one piece down into a bed and one as a seat or both down for a large bed or up for a large couch.
You were way too generous. I understand you have to play nice with your business relationships but the rear passenger side valance was falling off the wall even though they knew you were coming. Other parts and pieces had fallen off the power bed wasn't working, the table was wonky. You were kind!
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First video of SCOTT SCORE of a Camper Van scoring on several categories. Get the FREE TOOLKIT + WORKSHEET so you can score vans you are considering… www.GoSmallLiveLarge.com Thanks for watching, commenting and subscribing :)
First love the show concept! Now to the rig, it has potential but missing the mark for me. First lose the wardrobe/tv cabinet, total waste of space. This gets you back a table for 2. Lagun table not the leaning tower mess they have now. Make the bed transverse with side flare bump outs for extra space. Agree move the faucet and either a glass top stove or induction. Also get the monitors, etc out of cabinets. Bathroom…yeah needs work lol. But like the drive size and overall attempt.
I like your point system, it gives a very clear scorecard, compares specifics and still allows the viewer to score for themselves
Personally I would give this a 1 on the Fun Factor score, the point for being on the Sprinter chassis. Otherwise really no room for gear that weekend warriors or adventurers would have: no interior garage space, can't really mount anything on roof, only real option is to put a rack on the back doors which you can do with any van. Also side note, it's always strange to me how this particular fridge doesn't seem that much bigger on the inside. The freezer is a little bigger but that's about it, for taking up twice the space! I can probably fit as much stuff in my Solis' little NovaKool with a little Tetris magic.
Great points T S
Outstanding review! Thorough, honest, and based on your years of real world experience. The information you've given is very useful to folks shopping for a class B. Keep up the good work!
Thank you D Lowe !! Be sure to create you Lowe Score using the free Worksheet, gosmalllivelarge.com/tours-1
Eggs 🥚and beer 🍻. That’s enough 😂 I love your Scott score. Good stuff for real world use 👍🏼
Well said T S M :)
First upgrade, that table. You're spot-on about the faucet placement and cooktop too.
Good to know
I've just purchased Thor Tranquility 19P. Most of amenities are the same except the refrigerator and gas range. My van has induction range and refrigerator that can be opened from either side, which is very cute idea. There are a lot of spaces for paper works, cups, ect. in the dash board.. I am very happy with these details..
Thanks for sharing
Still happy with your van? I’m considering getting one of these
I was looking at a Tranquility today and considering buying but am so glad I watched this first! Subscribed!
Hi Gerri. Here to help you out !
Thanks Scott for this review. Thanks also La Mesa RV! Will be interesting to see what adjustments they make on this model. The galley falls short for me but its good to see these new options in the adventure van space.
Hi Deborah :)
Great job. You brought up a lot of points that I would not have considered. I can’t wait to see more reviews from you. I would love to see your sleep system on the bed for reference like you did with the beer and plates.
Hi Josh
THANK YOU!!! This is exactly what we need!! You may have saved us from buying the wrong van.
Sweet. Thx for sharing. Download the Worksheet to find your best van ! gosmalllivelarge.com/van-shopping-toolkit
Very nicely done... agree with most everything you said. The problem is always layout though, isn't it? Points matter, but if the layout isn't quite what you need, it kind of falls apart. Your GL is the perfect layout for your needs, but really not for us, since we really need the two sleeping areas and the new GL lost that. Will you ever do a point system for the Embassy? Would be interested on your take. I might do just that whenever we get ours.
It would also be interesting to see a point system when you first get a van, and then after traveling, see if the points change. Be seeing you!
Always good points you make RoL
Your new way of reviewing vans is really excellent! I hope one day you can do one on a Coachman Beyond 22C. My husband and I are interested in buying one down the road.
Hi Amber. I think that is the next Scott Score video, the Nova 22C
@@gosmall.livelarge that would be great! Please lay the bed down then lay on it while it’s set up as two twins. I’d like to see how much room is at the feet and where the hips will land along the length.
Thanks, very helpful video, actually trying things out is a great decision tool. Thor build quality, including B Class, is among the worst, in my opinion. Galley is below par. Lithium capacity is low for functionality. Coachman, American Patriot, Winnebago and Jayco/Entegra offer better choices.
Hi Pablo !
I appreciate your assesment, however, I believe you are VERY generous. Thank you for sharing.
Hi Janet
Nice review. Thanks for bring your REAL coffee pot, plates and 12 pack to see what ACTUALLY fits. As always you are one of the best in reviewing Class B's
Appreciate you R H
I love this type of videos.
Very well done Scott. 👍👍👍👍👍
Appreicate you Danny
There is an extension for the countertop but it's not convenient. I don't like the counter space, either. I would ditch that table and get one that folds up so I could place wherever. I do like the back but not electric foldout bed. Litterbox area is important!!!! TFS 😻 Britt
Thx Britt
Hey Scott. Thor just built a new tranquility floor plan and I would love to see you rate it. It’s the 19R on the Mercedes 144 chassis.
Will look for it
Thanks to LaMesa!!!
Agree with you. Without access to vans, Van Tours come to an end.
Awesome detail in story format.
Much appreciated!
LOVED this video. Very helpful. Can't wait for the next ones.
More coming soon R P
Great idea for comparing RVs. This is super helpful! 👍🏻
Glad you like it Sue. More coming
Please add my very, very enthusiastic vote for more of these. Very well done!
thx for that. More coming soon
Very nicely done! Great review!
TY Daphney. Glad you enjoyed it.
love the indepth review. what a great concept. Thanks Scott.
Hi Joe. Glad you like
can you review the new Thor freedom elite 19r? I'm considering buying it its under 100k with lithium... it also seems like only camping world is selling them
Like the concept. Certainly based on your size, height and weight, things like bed size, bath size, and ceiling height could result in drastically different ratings.
Agree with you Tim
I like your review concept and many good considerations. Also, thanks for giving the bed lengths! I am on the taller side and this is always a big consideration for me. In addition to my height I need about six more inches of bed length to be comfortable. There are a couple of important things I always want to know but that are seldom mentioned. First is the aforementioned bed length. Second, as a single traveler and in need of more space, can bed number 2 be removed to make additional storage space, which can be important info but may not be appropriate for your scoring system. Also, can the refrigerator shelves be adjusted to different heights. I always like to have milk and OJ, which are most often packaged in tall containers. What about 110-volt availability? As for my possible purchase of this particular van, the table and lack of storage would be deal killers. And I would have to give some thought to the cassette toiler. You are a wise person...I hope Thor and the other companies pay attention to your reviews.
Nice comments B P D
I really like your new review format.
thanks Sam… will be fun to see where it goes.
I agree with the your Scott Score for this Van. Would it be possible for you to redo the tour of your Travato GL with the Scott Score system ?
Great Idea !
Great review Scott!
Thank you L J
Scott I think you failed to address your hard liquor storage in your rating system 😊
LOL
I really like this practical shopping tool. What is important is how each buyer will be using the van.
Not a fan of this van. Bathroom was terrible. The kitchen was so poorly thought out. I agree with Scott on the stove top. I can’t see more than one person being comfortable in it. The table mount is old school, I have that style table and want to change it for a Lagun mounted table. The sleep cushions looked way too thin to be comfortable. Also the storage, I’m curious why they don’t put a storage cabinet across the back above the rear doors. I think that omission is a waste of space.
If you have the chance, look at the 19L model. I think you would really like that configuration.
Thx Esther
The kitchen and Galley area is a big minus for me. The refrigerator is nearly useless and if this van has lithium why is there still a propane stove and not a portable induction, free up more counter space. Scott in future reviews I would like to see and hear your opinion on quality control and features of a particular van. For instance I don't know if that model is a 4 wheel drive with just standard wheels and tires or how much solar is on the roof.
thanks Miles !
Would be great tailgater, for families with kids going to sporting events, seats up to 5?
Looks great in the parking lot, but can handle off roading
Not for me personally but a great choice for many
With you Cathy on great for many, but not for me
Good review! I’m looking at the Interstate 19, which I love. Hate cassette toilets.
Thx Roger
There is a big storage cabinet behind the TV. Did you miss that?
Perhaps thx Peter
Could you also add to your scoring a 'single' versus 'double' occupancy score?
Nope… and that is why I made the template you can fill out for your criteria for a van. My criteria is to sleep 2 adults, because that is what I need. Video th-cam.com/video/3gKW9EPibY4/w-d-xo.html. Download PDF here gosmalllivelarge.com/shopping-toolkit-workshee
Great review! Van isn’t for me due to kitchen area and the way bathroom is set up.
EmbassyRv would be a great one to review. (My Fav ClassB) Although, I like the layout of the Travato GL.
Hi Debbie. More Scott Score vids coming !
Will the beer fit also front to back allowing for something to its side in the fridge?
Don’t think so. Fridge terribly undersized for my needs
I don’t know. Without going any further than the Truma control panel I would flunk it right there. Putting something you need to get at and adjust often at the back of a cupboard? I give that an F. And it’s a Thor which is another black mark. They are just generally poorly made, from everything I’ve ever heard about them. Someone said it would be good for tailgating, but then it really misses the mark by making it four-wheel-drive. A pricey option if you’re just going to drive it to a game. And if it has lithium, why don’t they give you a flush induction cooktop instead of a really cheap looking raised propane top? A lot of money for something that has limited functionality (to me, anyway).
Great points you make Trish
@@gosmall.livelarge Cranky and critical are the names of my game!
But seriously, with limited storage space in any B, the decision to put the Truma control of the back of a cupboard is absolutely nuts.
I like the scoring. Great tour/review.
Glad you like !
This method is so helpful to really test livability. Can you add a Roadtrek to your list? Ss Agile?
YES!! Many more van tours with Scott Score coming up. Create your OWN SCORE using the free template gosmalllivelarge.com/tours-1
I love how you took egg carton , 6 pack, plate and coffee pot to do the size test. It gave a very good perspective. Didn’t like the table at all.
thanks K3 !!
I think I've gotten things sorted out on my 19L. However, I don't want to jinx it by claiming the war is over. Everything seems to be in working order. As cheesy as some of the construction is on the van, I've really grown to like it. Here is the list;
1. Awning is and was defective from the day of delivery.
2. Lithium system wouldn't charge via the alternator .
3. System wouldn't charge on shore power.
4. Wheels were unable to be balanced requiring replacement. { my expense }
5. Drawers wouldn't stay closed while van was in motion.
6. Water pump failed after 4 tanks ran through it.
7. Clunk in driveline { Mercedes problem not Thor}
8. Offroad light cover torn , basically a rag. La Mesa said that's how its supposed to be.
9. Misinformation from Thor on charging the batteries or running the A/C by idling the van for long periods while stationary. A definite negative , as the DPF system and engine could suffer catastrophic damage.
10. Lastly, absolutely zero service or assistance from La Mesa RV in Sacramento .
Even with all these problems , Im keeping the van, at this point in time. There have been many times I've considered selling.
Wow Ray. Thx for sharing your experience. Glad you persevered and am now enjoying your 19P. Tranquility achieved;)
Ray, do you still have the van? How did it hold up? I’m considering getting a very similar 2022 Thor Synergy from Sacramento La Mesa
@@crpunks #1 If you buy Thor, inspect it thoroughly before taking delivery. QC is pretty much non existent . I wouldn't buy anything Thor again. #2 Don't buy LaMesa. Their customer support after purchase is also non existent . They suck, buy somewhere else. NIRV Las Vegas I would try.
@@rayswiney7398 thanks for sharing!
Can you help me? I have been having some issue with my 2022 Thor Tranquility Auto AC. I have dog and I have been trying to use in as I park to shop ect and have not had any success to have it run. I have also took it to the Service dept., they thought they got it fixed and it si not. I am searching youtube and can not find any videos?
bummed about your situation Clarity. Your best bet would be your Dealer and/or the maker of the A/C unit.
I would like to see a couch that could be separated into two pieces so you could have one piece down into a bed and one as a seat or both down for a large bed or up for a large couch.
Hi Linda.
You were way too generous. I understand you have to play nice with your business relationships but the rear passenger side valance was falling off the wall even though they knew you were coming. Other parts and pieces had fallen off the power bed wasn't working, the table was wonky. You were kind!
Thanks for watching
Not sure how the MSRP is so high compared to the scope.
Very different rigs Laurie. Adventure off-road van VS touring coach
NOT LOOKING LIKE SOMETHING I WOULD WANT🤑
Hi Sandy
Like the review format and content. Not a fan of the van.
Thx Jane !