I feel like Five’s speech to Viktor applies extremely well to Allison. Allison is kinda acting on her own, and against the advice/will of her siblings just to bring back Ray and her daughter. She literally presses the button not knowing (or caring) if it’ll kill them. And she’s been slipping a lot mentally too
Thats what I said! Viktor wasnt my favorite character in the previous seasons, but Allison rumored Luther! Then made a deal with their dad, like I hope they give her the shit she deserves next season. She wasn’t the onlynone who lost something….
Luther and Diego shifted when they accepted Viktor with open arms, even Luther asking him to be his best man made my heart melt, that was good character development. It was also good to see Five and Viktor sticking up for each-other like when they were kids. I love this crazy family
They all accepted Viktor, bus especially Luther truly wanted him to know Viktor is his brother, and not only that, the only one of his brothers he trusts with the responsibilities of a best MAN. I wish every boy and girl that has to come out as trans gets this reaction from their family and friends. To bad this is a rarity.
Ok the scene with Victor talking about his reflection in the mirror was cheesy as hell, but I just immediately started sobbing because I KNEW what he was going to say when Allison asked what he sees now. It’s really cathartic to see characters on screen who have similar experiences to me, and I’m sure others feel the same way
I would prefer Elliott Page's decisions not to affect the plot. He could have kept going with Vanya instead of shoving a LGBT supportive scene in the original series or could have just replaced by another actress. (Note I am not against a LGBT supporting scene but syntheticality of it as well as changing the comic story for it.)
@@eminkilicaslan8945 ...the show is already massively different than the comic. Viktor is one of the least impactful changes they could have made. It alters nothing about the plot. Other than the scenes that are *specifically about* his transness, every other scene would have played out the same if he was still Vanya. It seems to me like you just don't like seeing representation and will always look for an excuse to say it doesn't "belong".
@@robinwood4977 If that was the case, I would have started with how half of the Umbrella Academy isn't straight. But unlike in Viktor's case, Five-Delores, Klaus-Dave and Vanya-Sissy scenes felt natural and fit to plot.
@@eminkilicaslan8945 pfffffff you're not even right tho Klaus is pan, and Viktor is most likely bi But Five is shown being attracted to a bust he sees as a WOMAN, making that a one sided straight relationship. So two of them aren't straight. Two. You think there should have only been one? That's a pretty small thing to be this worked up about. "oh no they should have only had ONE of the gays but they had TWO this is an OUTRAGE"
I was gonna say it was pretty a badass I bet they would’ve be cool each other and I wished Viktor’s family would’ve seen this and instead they were judging him about going alone just being protective of him I mean they barely make it outta there alive and the sparrows were lucky viktor didn’t go Kaboom the academy and five knows this too.
I really liked the scene between Five and Viktor. Viktor was dead wrong for keeping the circumstances of their mothers’ deaths a secret. I understand that he blamed himself for Harlan‘s condition, but they still deserve the truth. I’m glad that Five called him out.
I also understand Viktor for keeping the truth because everyone just wanted to hand Harlan over to the sparrows and telling them the truth will just make that worse. It’s not like it’s gonna bring their mothers back if they knew the truth anyway. Telling the truth would take one life and hiding it will save one. Telling the truth won’t let them do anything to save the world, what’s done was done.
@@deadralynx1288 Ahm the only insane one here is you. Sorry that it took someone on the internet to tell u that. Now go get a sanity check in the clinic and quit trolling here
Alison really p*ssed me off this season. I really, really hope that next season will be her redemption arc. Also, Klaus is perfect. Like always. I'm glad that Viktor's transition has been accepted by the rest of his family, even though they all can't stand one another. XD
Even when Allison was absolutely furious with Viktor, she didn't deadname him, which was really respectful of her, despite her questionable behaviour elsewhere this season.
Five: you know what they called a superhero who works alone? Who doesn't listen to anybody My brain: batman Five: a Villain.. My brain: ..that works too..
Jesus the transphobia in this comments section is appalling (though not entirely unexpected). I just want to add my voice to those saying how much I appreciate how well the show handled Viktor's transition. And personally I think it fits very well within the story! Viktor has been on a journey of self discovery and growing confidence since season 1 when he started with the discovery that he does indeed have powers. Last season he made discoveries about his sexuality and this season he's making discoveries about his gender. Trans people exist in real life. Their presence in media is not pandering to woke culture - it is evolving with the times.
This WOMAN cut off her breasts to appease maniacs like you. I hope you are proud that this WOMAN will most likely have insane regrets later. You are a monster.
I think it's concerning that you think loyalty to the comic books is more important than Elliot's comfort with the character he's playing. People don't come out as trans because they just feel like it - they come out because pretending to be the gender they were assigned at birth becomes too unbearable. Forcing him to play a cis woman (especially since he is clearly taking steps in his own transition such as top surgery and hrt) would be both unethical and a bit ridiculous.
@@zoeeleanor301 It is an actors job to portray a role not the other way around . It's fine, if Page wasn't comfortable with playing a woman anymore. With regard to the story they should have replaced him then. Instead they decided to kill of an interesting female character arc, which I was very interested in btw. Like @negatron said, it just felt forced and zeitgeisty this way.
You know what? I'm a straight person. Plain as yogurt. Don't relate at all to Vanya/Viktor. And you know what else? I adore all of this. I love it. This is what it's supposed to be like. Acceptance. Love. Encouragement. Letting people be just who they are at the moment. So they can feel like human beings in the world. That's what society should be working toward. Keep going, everybody. You're worth it. And so are they. ✌️♥️
Yeah I get it!.. let people be Who they want to be I’m OK with that… The only problem I see, this opens the door for studious to be forced to change characters because if they tell the actor or The actress, you can’t no longer be in the show because you want to transition from a girl to a man, and the character is supposed to be a woman.. A whole community will go after the studios and called them bigots… Let’s remember when you sign a contract you are representing the character, that you as an actor are getting paid to play.. If in the middle of the show you decide you no longer wanna be a girl or a man, then I guess a normal studio typically will let you go.. Well I guess not anymore! Because everybody’s afraid of saying anything.. But good for the actress, i’m very happy that they allow her to become Viktor in the show…
This is why representation is so important. That mirror scene resonated with me so much, and knowing so many other people did too makes me feel so hopeful.
@@bdawg5855 You really think you're punching down don't you. In reality you'll never even be noticed by a smarter, more omni-attractive human being who's made $8 Million dollars, by wielding bigger dick energy in his chosen craft than you could ever muster, even if you managed to pull off the biggest, loneliest, most deprived mass shooting in American history. They'll still remember Ellen... and Elliot, long after you've taken your own life in your final act of despair and desperation. There's literally nothing you could do, good or bad that would ever be noticed or appreciated more than this person simply declaring his gender. Or,.. you could find something friendlier to humanity, that you could do with your life, and at least find tranquility and peace within yourself. Personally I'd love it if I didn't have to feel sorry for people who act like you do anymore.
@@bdawg5855 you need a to read more biology books Chromosomes change and they have noting to do with gender or people changing there names LMAO are you really that dumb
Allison and Viktor have always had a sibling conflict. I hope they can work it out and be siblings again cause I do enjoy their sweet moments like the window scene
Yesss Vik. They handled this perfectly. Marking my place in the comments here before mean people click on this video only to come reply rudely and unnecessarily to people in the comments
0:35-0:48 nothing in my life actually made me happier than this scene. I’m crying rn because I can’t literally scream in joy about this in this current moment
What is funny is how all of them are now normal. Yet Viktor could make a living playing violin. He is good at everything he does because he thought he was powerless but to make up for that. He made himself better at everything else. The rest relied on their powers for their living and their identities. So Season 4 is going to be crazy interesting seeing how they all will cope without their powers and if Viktor will help them in that way. IF they don't apologize to her for the way they treated her all of her life pre power. Then they suck. But I know they will. Allison on the other hand needs to chill. I understand her anger. But they all lost someone. Klaus lost David, Diego lost Detective Patch and his robot mother, Luther now lost Sloane, Viktor lost Sissy and Harlan. Then she literally tries to rape Luther. Before anyone says it wasn't rape, it was against his will by her rumor. Also her saying "I can make you." before hand.
I was gonna say the ones whom they lost might come back friend or foe because the reset of the universe and it will be Chaotic and drama which that won’t end well. I have a feeling Viktor’s family gonna realize how Viktor feels when he didn’t have his powers even though it was the pills and it was hidden and who knows maybe they’ll secretly watch him perform if Viktor plays again the violin that depends in season 4 if we get it.
Five keeps calling out Viktor but never once calls out Allison and lets her do whatever the heck she wants. Absolute hypocrisy. I hope in s4 this is remedied and he gives Allison a good chastising.
@12classics39 True. Allison is a hero and lost everything (Almost her life because of Victor) but I can't excuse her for killing Harlan, for sexually assaulting Luthor, and risking their lives (Victor has done the same thing but accidentally while Allison has done it negligently), she's going to redeem herself.
@12classics39 Everyone is afraid (Though still love) of Victor (The most powerful one and has doomed the world two times), but, he's one of my favorites, Number 5 hasn't called out Allison for her vindictive nature especially killing Harlan (Yes, he killed their mothers but it was an accident and saved their lives from the Sparrow Academy)
Allison already feels guilt Vanya (read the comics) is just a jerk. Tries to kill her siblings because she was contained fir almost killing her sister and killing 2 nannies.
Him, Five and Klaus, is my favorite, I love him before (as Vanya) and I love him more as Viktor. At the end of this season Allison and others have reason to continue to live, but he lost everything, I really hope he found his happiness at next season.
He might because Reginald and Allison reset the Universe because there might be a possibility that Sissy and Harlan are alive but they could have their enemies alive too but it will be chaos because some of the people that died in previous seasons might show up I mean think about it and hopefully they get some their powers back and confront Reginald and set things right in we’re getting season 4 and possibly the final season just saying.
Well yeah, it was literally only done to explain the change of the actor It didn’t have any bearing on the story and it wasn’t brought up again during the story
I'm understanding now why there was a HUGE dip in viewership. Way to ruin another solid IP with this tired gaslighting. Disney destroyed their empire pushing this stuff. Keep it up Netflix, Disney has shown us, you're never too big to fail.
@@zamfy7141 Normal people aren't bullies tho, I thought normal people have a compassion for "mentally ill" people (which you clearly lacks). You also wouldn't be accusing random people of being "mentally ill" if you were a normal, good person.
I wonder why? Its almost as if trying to kill someone and being the reason five spent many years in a burning empty shell of a world where he was so lonely he got into a very emotional relationship to a maniquin would make them hate you.
Fascinating to see all these transphobic comments from people feeling either threatened or unsure of themselves and their own bodies. Pity they lash out instead of getting help of living their true self.
People don’t like things that make them think, because it makes them question their own life. People hate how us gender nonconforming folk reject gender roles and live our authentic selves. They hate to see us free because it makes them scared. Makes them confront uncomfortable truths.
trans are not gender nonconforming if they transition to the sex that fits the behavior they display. If anything, they are conforming to the expectations society expects of men and women. A man who wears makeup and loves dresses? He’s actually a woman. A woman who dresses comfortably and loves working with her hands? She’s actually a man. If anyone is gender noncomforming, then it’s homosexuals, not trans folks. Trans don’t want to be seen as gender nonconforming and despise themselves for it, and that’s why they transition-to fit in with society.
Very good 👍🏳️🌈 all the actresses & actors are really good I like how one of the Umbrella Academy people said that if you are working alone then you're a villain not a superhero but Victor apologized and started working as a team
Out of curiosity If u were in victors shoes and u were lucky to have a supporting family when you came out Would u rather Have everyone accept it casually and not make a big deal or anything (like Diego and the majority of umbrella academy) Or have a party to celebrate and to make you feel appreciated and loved (like luther) Personally I like both but I wanna see if people have a preference
I'd prefer to have everyone accept it casually, as the sexual preferences of others should be accepted. I feel if people were to treat my sexuality as a big deal and throw a party dedicated to my sexuality, I would appreciate everything, but this action would make me feel abnormal in a way, so I'd like my sexuality to be a casual thing. But I understand that some people in Viktor's shoes need or want something that Luther did because many people have trouble with their sexuality, these reasons range from many problems, they fear rejection and have trouble accepting their own identity etc.
I like the idea of it being a celebration. Too much of trans life is framed within the concept of tragedy and hardship. To have you surround ones coming out would be beaut
I am Non-Binary (They/Them) AND Bisexual. I like the idea of a party but I also like the idea of it being casual. With everyone reacting casually that to me feels like everyone treating it like it is in fact a normal thing and not this huge weird thing that needs to be picked apart you know? But on the other hand the party would make me feel loved and empowered. Cause to me I'd like to think my loved ones throwing me a party wouldn't be about my identity itself but me showing my identity to the world. Me being brave enough to come out would be the celebration. So to each their own but I also like both.
im pro LGBTQ+ but one of the reasons it got canned is because they change the character, the comics had way more arks than the show and suddenly when he forced the show to changed his character no one watched it and the show was canned. Vanya is a critical character in the comics for her femininity, that changed wasnt needed, actors get pay to play fictional characters and not to play characters that are similar to them, that would be like hiring Jim carey to play himself, im prefft sure John Malkovich has been the only actor in history that has been able to pull that stunt.
the can you be ,my best man and viktor talking about looking in a mirror hit me hard the best man cause even though I am transmasc i got to be in my bffs bridal party and well that was how i felt looking in the mirror too till I came out
i found it interseting that they had it included in the series, the change from ellen to elliot. i never seen it in a series. the most case, the actor was changed, to another person.
Lila has the ability to copy the power of anyone she sees who has one. So, because Viktor is with her, she’s able to mirror his powers when he’s using them, and she’s able to use them too.
Just an opinion, but he should try to do something with his bangs. It reminds me of old timey Justin Bieber and Elliot Page has a much better looking face and far more talent.
The transition was done well but the name change Irritated me. It’s hard to connect Vanya to Viktor. If I’m talking about the first 2 seasons it’s hard not to use Vanya instead of Viktor then I get confused. Other than that, there’s no problem. Still one of my favorites from the show.
He could have changed it to anything - most trans people don't choose names that resemble their deadname, since many don't want people to think of them still as their deadname. He literally could've changed his name to Steve or Bob, but the writers probably chose something similar so that people who find it hard remembering his new name/ aren't used to people changing names like that can still keep up and be respectful to him.
@@dreamypupper4080 The showrunners were forced into a catch 22 by Page’s selfish, narcissistic behavior. Either alter the story or suffer a big PR hit. It was essentially cancel culture blackmail.
I hope they’ll do a subversion in the final season where Viktor is the one who stops, rather than causes, the end of the world. The cause is totally separate from him, and he’s the one who stops it in the end. That’d be very poetic but I’m not sure if it’ll happen. (My ideal would be Five finally losing it over his apocalypse trauma and family treating him so awfully; his space-time power starts destabilizing reality in his bursts of emotion, and Viktor is the one to talk and calm him down like Ben did for him.)
That will be interesting twist and I bet Viktor will have to make the ultimate sacrifice in order to his family and save five especially but I also think five needs to be careful about time traveling especially he didn’t remember he created the commission and hopefully we’ll get season 4.
There is one giant thing I just can't stand about this season... the way it was shot. How they hyperfocus the foreground and blur out the background makes everything look cartoony.
I hate 5. He’s a murderer but he wants to call Viktor a villain for protecting an innocent person (and threatens to kill him). Even though that’s their job!
It's literally a couple of scenes and a couple of lines. It demonstrates EXACTLY how friends and family should react to someone coming out as trans. Just accept them. That's literally all you have to do. A lot of people could learn from this show's execution of the issue.
@@jortalus Hopefully the scene is just them being like "Oh. Okay word, you scared us for a second we thought you were dying or something. We kinda had a feeling" anything more than that is pandering and unrealistic
@@RyanTheJay That's more or less how it is. A few extra scenes to flesh it out a little and show some reactions, but it's mostly just..."I'm Viktor now." "Okay, cool, but there's other shit going on"
@@pimp_floyd5024 I'm not trans. And I accept that you're hateful. I'm just telling you that you're hateful, and how to become less hateful, just in case you didn't know it. But I can see you're aware of your hate and just don't care.
I feel like Five’s speech to Viktor applies extremely well to Allison. Allison is kinda acting on her own, and against the advice/will of her siblings just to bring back Ray and her daughter. She literally presses the button not knowing (or caring) if it’ll kill them. And she’s been slipping a lot mentally too
she doesnt "work" alone. raping luther isnt "trying to do good". just a straight up villain who cant even be a proper one with a goal
Thats what I said! Viktor wasnt my favorite character in the previous seasons, but Allison rumored Luther! Then made a deal with their dad, like I hope they give her the shit she deserves next season. She wasn’t the onlynone who lost something….
Vanya*
stay transphobic prick
@@guciofilmindustries7255
@@guciofilmindustries7255*Was Vanya, now Viktor
"Do you feel loved?"
"Yeah, I do."
"Good. You are."
MY HEART 😭
🤢
Luther's grin when Diego says "Luther wants to throw you a big stupid party" 😂😍
Luther and Diego shifted when they accepted Viktor with open arms, even Luther asking him to be his best man made my heart melt, that was good character development. It was also good to see Five and Viktor sticking up for each-other like when they were kids. I love this crazy family
They all accepted Viktor, bus especially Luther truly wanted him to know Viktor is his brother, and not only that, the only one of his brothers he trusts with the responsibilities of a best MAN. I wish every boy and girl that has to come out as trans gets this reaction from their family and friends. To bad this is a rarity.
i agree but also remember trans non-binary people! :]
* I wish everyone
Agreed, I love Luther so much, his character development is wonderful to see! 🥰
Nah
@@Hector-bl5gp 🙄
Luther asking Viktor to be his best man literally makes me sob everytime.
Vanya*
@@guciofilmindustries7255Viktor*
@@guciofilmindustries7255 You either didn't watch the video or your IQ is somewhere below 7. Both of these can be helped, you know.
@@guciofilmindustries7255Vanya is Viktor. Viktor is who he is.
@@highshipper9222 she*
Ok the scene with Victor talking about his reflection in the mirror was cheesy as hell, but I just immediately started sobbing because I KNEW what he was going to say when Allison asked what he sees now. It’s really cathartic to see characters on screen who have similar experiences to me, and I’m sure others feel the same way
I would prefer Elliott Page's decisions not to affect the plot. He could have kept going with Vanya instead of shoving a LGBT supportive scene in the original series or could have just replaced by another actress. (Note I am not against a LGBT supporting scene but syntheticality of it as well as changing the comic story for it.)
@@eminkilicaslan8945 ...the show is already massively different than the comic. Viktor is one of the least impactful changes they could have made. It alters nothing about the plot. Other than the scenes that are *specifically about* his transness, every other scene would have played out the same if he was still Vanya.
It seems to me like you just don't like seeing representation and will always look for an excuse to say it doesn't "belong".
@@robinwood4977 If that was the case, I would have started with how half of the Umbrella Academy isn't straight. But unlike in Viktor's case, Five-Delores, Klaus-Dave and Vanya-Sissy scenes felt natural and fit to plot.
@@eminkilicaslan8945 pfffffff you're not even right tho
Klaus is pan, and Viktor is most likely bi
But Five is shown being attracted to a bust he sees as a WOMAN, making that a one sided straight relationship.
So two of them aren't straight. Two. You think there should have only been one? That's a pretty small thing to be this worked up about. "oh no they should have only had ONE of the gays but they had TWO this is an OUTRAGE"
@@robinwood4977 I am not against those relationships tho, how come you implied that's an outrage out of my comment?
When he confronted their number 1 in the diner was pretty badass
I was gonna say it was pretty a badass I bet they would’ve be cool each other and I wished Viktor’s family would’ve seen this and instead they were judging him about going alone just being protective of him I mean they barely make it outta there alive and the sparrows were lucky viktor didn’t go Kaboom the academy and five knows this too.
RIGHT
I really liked the scene between Five and Viktor. Viktor was dead wrong for keeping the circumstances of their mothers’ deaths a secret. I understand that he blamed himself for Harlan‘s condition, but they still deserve the truth. I’m glad that Five called him out.
I also understand Viktor for keeping the truth because everyone just wanted to hand Harlan over to the sparrows and telling them the truth will just make that worse. It’s not like it’s gonna bring their mothers back if they knew the truth anyway. Telling the truth would take one life and hiding it will save one. Telling the truth won’t let them do anything to save the world, what’s done was done.
You liked that a healthy woman CUT OF HER BREASTS bc of mental illness? Are you insane?
@@deadralynx1288 Ahm the only insane one here is you. Sorry that it took someone on the internet to tell u that. Now go get a sanity check in the clinic and quit trolling here
@@alc6398 Agree 100%
To be honest, the death of Harlan was completely unnecessary, the Kugelblitz was already there. Allison was completely OOC
Luther: "Will you be my best man?"
Happy teapot noises!
Holy fuck I just made that exact sound unwillingly. Viktor Hargreeves
Alison really p*ssed me off this season. I really, really hope that next season will be her redemption arc. Also, Klaus is perfect. Like always. I'm glad that Viktor's transition has been accepted by the rest of his family, even though they all can't stand one another. XD
I doubt it
Allison was a total shithead this season. She wasn't the only one who lost people. They've all been through hell. She had no right to be such a punk.
I thought I was the only one who hated Alison this season
Hopefully they take it a step further honestly. Allison was deliciously evil and the way they built her to be hated was amazing.
There is no redemption from r'pe
Even when Allison was absolutely furious with Viktor, she didn't deadname him, which was really respectful of her, despite her questionable behaviour elsewhere this season.
Yeah absolutely.
That's because they are reading lines and these are not real interactions. The show should have never changed vanya to victor, its makes zero sense.
You 👉🤪
bitches will do the bare minimum and yall will go crazy for it 😒😒😒😒
@@Ryan-zv3os it's make sense if you were smarter
Five: you know what they called a superhero who works alone? Who doesn't listen to anybody
My brain: batman
Five: a Villain..
My brain: ..that works too..
I just did the same thing 😂👌
@@CC-gw8wc Same
Most of the time, Batman works with people, the bat family, gordon ect ect
@ultrabrian8151 No ? The robins work with him ?
I just watched this and saw the mirror scene, and had a major flashback to when I covered all my mirrors with towels and didn't know why
I really love how they all respected Viktor's pronouns and new identity, with Luther appointing him as his Best Man. Sibling Goals! 😍🥰
Luther was the heart of the umbrella academy. Five is the brains. Viktor the soul.
@@joshuaplotkin8826 Diego's the brawn, Allison's the emotion, Ben's the memories and Klaus is... Well, he's there.
He’s the part that evolves?
@@Calamity25 Klaus is the chaos. 😉
It comes to something when fictitious characters in a fantasy TV show show a better understanding then a lot of humans in the Real World doesn't it?
Viktor's transition story was very subtle. I like it!
Jesus the transphobia in this comments section is appalling (though not entirely unexpected). I just want to add my voice to those saying how much I appreciate how well the show handled Viktor's transition.
And personally I think it fits very well within the story! Viktor has been on a journey of self discovery and growing confidence since season 1 when he started with the discovery that he does indeed have powers. Last season he made discoveries about his sexuality and this season he's making discoveries about his gender. Trans people exist in real life. Their presence in media is not pandering to woke culture - it is evolving with the times.
This WOMAN cut off her breasts to appease maniacs like you. I hope you are proud that this WOMAN will most likely have insane regrets later. You are a monster.
I'm gay, and it was not handled "WELL". It was weird and forced.
It's a comic book adaptation. Page was supposed to represent the character Vanya and her journey not his own.
I think it's concerning that you think loyalty to the comic books is more important than Elliot's comfort with the character he's playing. People don't come out as trans because they just feel like it - they come out because pretending to be the gender they were assigned at birth becomes too unbearable. Forcing him to play a cis woman (especially since he is clearly taking steps in his own transition such as top surgery and hrt) would be both unethical and a bit ridiculous.
@@zoeeleanor301 It is an actors job to portray a role not the other way around . It's fine, if Page wasn't comfortable with playing a woman anymore. With regard to the story they should have replaced him then. Instead they decided to kill of an interesting female character arc, which I was very interested in btw. Like @negatron said, it just felt forced and zeitgeisty this way.
You know what? I'm a straight person. Plain as yogurt. Don't relate at all to Vanya/Viktor.
And you know what else?
I adore all of this. I love it.
This is what it's supposed to be like.
Acceptance. Love. Encouragement.
Letting people be just who they are at the moment. So they can feel like human beings in the world.
That's what society should be working toward.
Keep going, everybody. You're worth it. And so are they.
✌️♥️
Same bro ngl that scene with Luther gave me emotions.
Well said guys
Yeah I get it!.. let people be Who they want to be I’m OK with that…
The only problem I see, this opens the door for studious to be forced to change characters
because if they tell the actor or The actress, you can’t no longer be in the show because you want to transition from a girl to a man, and the character is supposed to be a woman..
A whole community will go after the studios and called them bigots…
Let’s remember when you sign a contract
you are representing the character, that you as an actor are getting paid to play..
If in the middle of the show you decide you no longer wanna be a girl or a man, then I guess a normal studio typically will let you go..
Well I guess not anymore! Because everybody’s afraid of saying anything..
But good for the actress, i’m very happy that they allow her to become Viktor in the show…
@@gustavo8832 look at all that stupid bullshit you invented.
@@gustavo8832 he’s not an actress. He’s an actor and he is a man.
This is why representation is so important. That mirror scene resonated with me so much, and knowing so many other people did too makes me feel so hopeful.
You are insane.
@@deadralynx1288 >Subscribed to Nerdrotic
Are you sure you're not the one that's insane here?
Nobody cares.
Get woke, go broke.
@@liampatrick3110 tf you mean lol
"Vikor's most powerful moments"
More like me sobbing for 4 minutes straight 😭😭😭💖
Why tho ? Were these scenes bad or good for you
@@astraverse2640 scenes were great they got me super emotional
Eliot is such a good actor i love when his character gets angry the fight he has with Alison felt so real
Um, no. Ellen identifies as Eliot now.
@@bdawg5855 You really think you're punching down don't you. In reality you'll never even be noticed by a smarter, more omni-attractive human being who's made $8 Million dollars, by wielding bigger dick energy in his chosen craft than you could ever muster, even if you managed to pull off the biggest, loneliest, most deprived mass shooting in American history. They'll still remember Ellen... and Elliot, long after you've taken your own life in your final act of despair and desperation. There's literally nothing you could do, good or bad that would ever be noticed or appreciated more than this person simply declaring his gender. Or,.. you could find something friendlier to humanity, that you could do with your life, and at least find tranquility and peace within yourself. Personally I'd love it if I didn't have to feel sorry for people who act like you do anymore.
@@bdawg5855 How have you not picked up on the fact that he identifies as a man now? Like are you daft?
@@bdawg5855 you think i care what your bitch ass thinks STFU
@@bdawg5855 you need a to read more biology books Chromosomes change and they have noting to do with gender or people changing there names LMAO are you really that dumb
Allison and Viktor have always had a sibling conflict. I hope they can work it out and be siblings again cause I do enjoy their sweet moments like the window scene
Viktor seemed so confident and I loved it.
You loved when a healthy woman had her breasts cut off? Are you insane?
Yes!! Totally!
the boys vibing together at the end :D
It’s so sad that they stopped at 3 seasons!
The moment the show kill itself just to pander for one person that they fell the need to rewrite the whole show smh.
he's so cute mannn, not in like a woobified way but in just like a really earnest way
I have just learned a new slang word, it's awesome!
Yesss Vik. They handled this perfectly. Marking my place in the comments here before mean people click on this video only to come reply rudely and unnecessarily to people in the comments
2:28 this scene made me like Luther a lot more
he carried this season ON HIS BACK
yes
He really did.
agreed
but...
Klaus too :)
@@Ornithorhynchus. Oh yes, combination of Viktor and Klaus, they are what runs this show.
@@rosieg6989 yess
0:35-0:48 nothing in my life actually made me happier than this scene. I’m crying rn because I can’t literally scream in joy about this in this current moment
She was so sweet before getting hurt on the head 😰
What is funny is how all of them are now normal. Yet Viktor could make a living playing violin. He is good at everything he does because he thought he was powerless but to make up for that. He made himself better at everything else. The rest relied on their powers for their living and their identities. So Season 4 is going to be crazy interesting seeing how they all will cope without their powers and if Viktor will help them in that way. IF they don't apologize to her for the way they treated her all of her life pre power. Then they suck. But I know they will. Allison on the other hand needs to chill. I understand her anger. But they all lost someone. Klaus lost David, Diego lost Detective Patch and his robot mother, Luther now lost Sloane, Viktor lost Sissy and Harlan. Then she literally tries to rape Luther. Before anyone says it wasn't rape, it was against his will by her rumor. Also her saying "I can make you." before hand.
I was gonna say the ones whom they lost might come back friend or foe because the reset of the universe and it will be Chaotic and drama which that won’t end well. I have a feeling Viktor’s family gonna realize how Viktor feels when he didn’t have his powers even though it was the pills and it was hidden and who knows maybe they’ll secretly watch him perform if Viktor plays again the violin that depends in season 4 if we get it.
I just feel so bad For Viktor bs he’s been through too much
I really hope he gets a good ending
If you agree
👇
Luther: hey maybe we sho-
Allison: ( waves)
Luther: OK!!😳
So wholesome! I'm glad they did this!
3:08 cette scène est la première où on voit Victor et Lila faire équipe l'un avec l'autre, c'est plutôt cool
3:59 best part.
Then go
Five keeps calling out Viktor but never once calls out Allison and lets her do whatever the heck she wants. Absolute hypocrisy. I hope in s4 this is remedied and he gives Allison a good chastising.
@12classics39 True. Allison is a hero and lost everything (Almost her life because of Victor) but I can't excuse her for killing Harlan, for sexually assaulting Luthor, and risking their lives (Victor has done the same thing but accidentally while Allison has done it negligently), she's going to redeem herself.
@12classics39 Everyone is afraid (Though still love) of Victor (The most powerful one and has doomed the world two times), but, he's one of my favorites, Number 5 hasn't called out Allison for her vindictive nature especially killing Harlan (Yes, he killed their mothers but it was an accident and saved their lives from the Sparrow Academy)
Allison already feels guilt Vanya (read the comics) is just a jerk. Tries to kill her siblings because she was contained fir almost killing her sister and killing 2 nannies.
Call me the world because I want Victor to destroy me 😉
Dang, I think that's the best thirst comment I've ever read.
Play in traffic you degenerate.
HAHAHAHA
Him, Five and Klaus, is my favorite, I love him before (as Vanya) and I love him more as Viktor. At the end of this season Allison and others have reason to continue to live, but he lost everything, I really hope he found his happiness at next season.
He might because Reginald and Allison reset the Universe because there might be a possibility that Sissy and Harlan are alive but they could have their enemies alive too but it will be chaos because some of the people that died in previous seasons might show up I mean think about it and hopefully they get some their powers back and confront Reginald and set things right in we’re getting season 4 and possibly the final season just saying.
We adore you Viktor Hargreeves 🥰🌹✨👑❤️
Dudes got a nice punch 2:07
THIS IS HOW YOU DO IT!!!
Well yeah, it was literally only done to explain the change of the actor
It didn’t have any bearing on the story and it wasn’t brought up again during the story
YES! Slice off those body parts! Just like a sane person!
Yep, get woke, go broke.🤷♂️
VIKTOR SLAYED 🎉🎉🎉🍾💕💟
I feel that it was hard for the actor that plays Diego saying the character of Victor's dead name even as a character
I think Viktor's powerful moment in season 3 was in episode 1 where he confronted Marcus (Sparrow's Number One).
I'm understanding now why there was a HUGE dip in viewership. Way to ruin another solid IP with this tired gaslighting. Disney destroyed their empire pushing this stuff. Keep it up Netflix, Disney has shown us, you're never too big to fail.
What?
@@theratman1426 Don't mind them. They're just a bigot.
@@BluestHypnotist You mean normal people, that don't want to pander to mentally ill freaks like you.
@@zamfy7141 Normal people aren't bullies tho, I thought normal people have a compassion for "mentally ill" people (which you clearly lacks). You also wouldn't be accusing random people of being "mentally ill" if you were a normal, good person.
@АлексейТабаков-ы8в If can't accept your body that you are born with, you are mentally ill.
Viktor is my favorite character ❤
🤣
Victor and 5 are my fav
I love them
I love how they explored his transition in this show. TUA is the best!
He carried this season as usual
she
Not really, I’d say Klaus, Hargreaves and five carried it
@@highlander8276 he*
@@highlander8276 he*
The only thing he carried was the cause of apocalypse. Fuck him he sucks
Elliot page my favorites
BEST CHARACTER
On the contrary
l Love viktor🖤🖤🖤
No One:
Not A Single Soul:
Luther: I want to throw a party welcoming Viktor to the brotherhood
Luther is so funny 😂😂😂😂
That scene with Luther gave me emotions.
Elliot page simply best
love him so much
i love Viktor😍😍
I LOVE YOU VIKTOR
Ellen page 🫡
Five was terrible to Viktor this season. Who knew Luther and Diego would end up being the better siblings to Viktor than Five ans Allison.
Diego smiles at his suffering lmao
I wonder why? Its almost as if trying to kill someone and being the reason five spent many years in a burning empty shell of a world where he was so lonely he got into a very emotional relationship to a maniquin would make them hate you.
Fascinating to see all these transphobic comments from people feeling either threatened or unsure of themselves and their own bodies. Pity they lash out instead of getting help of living their true self.
People don’t like things that make them think, because it makes them question their own life. People hate how us gender nonconforming folk reject gender roles and live our authentic selves. They hate to see us free because it makes them scared. Makes them confront uncomfortable truths.
trans are not gender nonconforming if they transition to the sex that fits the behavior they display. If anything, they are conforming to the expectations society expects of men and women. A man who wears makeup and loves dresses? He’s actually a woman. A woman who dresses comfortably and loves working with her hands? She’s actually a man. If anyone is gender noncomforming, then it’s homosexuals, not trans folks. Trans don’t want to be seen as gender nonconforming and despise themselves for it, and that’s why they transition-to fit in with society.
Very good 👍🏳️🌈 all the actresses & actors are really good I like how one of the Umbrella Academy people said that if you are working alone then you're a villain not a superhero but Victor apologized and started working as a team
Out of curiosity
If u were in victors shoes and u were lucky to have a supporting family when you came out
Would u rather
Have everyone accept it casually and not make a big deal or anything (like Diego and the majority of umbrella academy)
Or have a party to celebrate and to make you feel appreciated and loved (like luther)
Personally I like both but I wanna see if people have a preference
I'd prefer to have everyone accept it casually, as the sexual preferences of others should be accepted. I feel if people were to treat my sexuality as a big deal and throw a party dedicated to my sexuality, I would appreciate everything, but this action would make me feel abnormal in a way, so I'd like my sexuality to be a casual thing.
But I understand that some people in Viktor's shoes need or want something that Luther did because many people have trouble with their sexuality, these reasons range from many problems, they fear rejection and have trouble accepting their own identity etc.
I like the idea of it being a celebration. Too much of trans life is framed within the concept of tragedy and hardship. To have you surround ones coming out would be beaut
I am Non-Binary (They/Them) AND Bisexual. I like the idea of a party but I also like the idea of it being casual. With everyone reacting casually that to me feels like everyone treating it like it is in fact a normal thing and not this huge weird thing that needs to be picked apart you know? But on the other hand the party would make me feel loved and empowered. Cause to me I'd like to think my loved ones throwing me a party wouldn't be about my identity itself but me showing my identity to the world. Me being brave enough to come out would be the celebration. So to each their own but I also like both.
I’m also nb and bi. We put the BI in NONBINARY 🏳️⚧️🌈
@@straberryshinigami15g97 (high five) 😍😍😍
my baby fr
0:33 Viks to precious for this world
Litterally every scene he was in, yup. Accurate
he is probably one of the most handsome men on the entire planet
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Bruh
this really does Warm my heart bro
❤❤❤❤❤
Hi
Hi
“Best”
im pro LGBTQ+ but one of the reasons it got canned is because they change the character, the comics had way more arks than the show and suddenly when he forced the show to changed his character no one watched it and the show was canned. Vanya is a critical character in the comics for her femininity, that changed wasnt needed, actors get pay to play fictional characters and not to play characters that are similar to them, that would be like hiring Jim carey to play himself, im prefft sure John Malkovich has been the only actor in history that has been able to pull that stunt.
What got canned? You're pro-ness of LGBTQ people?
“you know what they call a superhero who works alone, and doesn’t listen to anybody? A villain.”
the can you be ,my best man and viktor talking about looking in a mirror hit me hard the best man cause even though I am transmasc i got to be in my bffs bridal party and well that was how i felt looking in the mirror too till I came out
i found it interseting that they had it included in the series, the change from ellen to elliot. i never seen it in a series. the most case, the actor was changed, to another person.
Bc people would react with disbelieve that a woman in this day would cut of her breasts in the name of activism
don't use deadname please?
@@bearsuzu7678 what ist deadname ???
@@theStockardross a deadname is a name you don't use anymore because you aren't comfortable with it or don't want it anymore.
@@theStockardross also he changed his name to Elliot because his trans and doesn't want to use that name anymore. Hope you respect that 🙂
I was so confused I don’t remember seeing any of this. Then it hit me. Iv missed season 3 when I cancelled Netflix. Fuckers with their price increases
Makes sense tho... Netflix has been kinda struggling financially, they don't wanna go bankrupt
@@jessie9271 Get woke, go broke!
Terrible actres and in the last season can't even play a male well
Mate, the actor IS a male.
@@BluestHypnotist That freak will never be a male
3:15 why Lila is glowing like Viktor?
Lila has the ability to copy the power of anyone she sees who has one. So, because Viktor is with her, she’s able to mirror his powers when he’s using them, and she’s able to use them too.
@@PinkestWisp Ok, thank you🌹
you didnt see season 2 did you?
Aaah it's so wholesome
There’s actually no way to bring Claire back because she never existed .
I wonder if this little girl is really Claire unless she’ll have Allison’s or Viktor’s powers which uh ohhhh
Just an opinion, but he should try to do something with his bangs. It reminds me of old timey Justin Bieber and Elliot Page has a much better looking face and far more talent.
So they wrote it into the story, I didn’t finish season 1
I Viktor so fuckin much
i viktor so much, too!
The transition was done well but the name change Irritated me. It’s hard to connect Vanya to Viktor. If I’m talking about the first 2 seasons it’s hard not to use Vanya instead of Viktor then I get confused. Other than that, there’s no problem. Still one of my favorites from the show.
It's ok you get used to it now all I see is Victor
Tbh they could have left the name, since both Vanya and Viktor are male names in Russia
@@_monamono_2382 the name change is a big part of a mot of gender transitions also this comment is transphobic wtf
@@astertempleton1266 OMG! People can’t even voice their opinions, because eventually, everything will sound transophobic somehow🤷♀️
@@_monamono_2382 Its not an opinion to completely and utterly to refuse to use someone's pronouns and deny that transgender people exist.
Tbh if you showed me this scene without any context it would barely change anything.
Goodluck with your new gender Elliot. I love you more no matter what you are. You are still a good person, humble and talented.
Humble? 😆
@@liampatrick3110 🤔😊
They couldn’t have changed it to Vincent?Vanya/Vincent. Sounds better
Because Vincent has latin routes, not Russian ones?
He could have changed it to anything - most trans people don't choose names that resemble their deadname, since many don't want people to think of them still as their deadname. He literally could've changed his name to Steve or Bob, but the writers probably chose something similar so that people who find it hard remembering his new name/ aren't used to people changing names like that can still keep up and be respectful to him.
@@rosieg6989 Oh cool I knew that obviously
@@mol7999 Do you think that's why Elliot chose Elliot?
@@dracowolf3212 probably. some trans ppl find names close to their old ones, but some people find wildly new ones
I really hate his haircut, though.
OMG how dare you?!, you don’t get to hate his haircut, you are a trans-hair-phobic. 🤪
I agree. Bangs were a mistake.
To be fair tho, my first haircut after coming out was hella awkward. It took time to figure out what worked.
That haircut needs to go. That fringe? oof
They should have recast the part. Actors shouldn’t dictate the story.
Elliot didn’t though?? This was the showrunner’s decision dude 💀
@@dreamypupper4080 The showrunners were forced into a catch 22 by Page’s selfish, narcissistic behavior. Either alter the story or suffer a big PR hit. It was essentially cancel culture blackmail.
@@joshwhipkey631 no it was not. Would you rather risk Vanya grewing a beard over the next seasons?
Wait til him ends the world for the fourth time in season 4
I hope they’ll do a subversion in the final season where Viktor is the one who stops, rather than causes, the end of the world. The cause is totally separate from him, and he’s the one who stops it in the end. That’d be very poetic but I’m not sure if it’ll happen. (My ideal would be Five finally losing it over his apocalypse trauma and family treating him so awfully; his space-time power starts destabilizing reality in his bursts of emotion, and Viktor is the one to talk and calm him down like Ben did for him.)
That will be interesting twist and I bet Viktor will have to make the ultimate sacrifice in order to his family and save five especially but I also think five needs to be careful about time traveling especially he didn’t remember he created the commission and hopefully we’ll get season 4.
End the universe😊
There is one giant thing I just can't stand about this season... the way it was shot. How they hyperfocus the foreground and blur out the background makes everything look cartoony.
Dumb
I hate 5. He’s a murderer but he wants to call Viktor a villain for protecting an innocent person (and threatens to kill him). Even though that’s their job!
Gender dysphoria 😭😭😭😭
Ugh. I'll reserve judgement till I watch it but this seems like a lotta extra work w nothing to do w the actual plot
It's literally a couple of scenes and a couple of lines. It demonstrates EXACTLY how friends and family should react to someone coming out as trans. Just accept them. That's literally all you have to do. A lot of people could learn from this show's execution of the issue.
@@jortalus Hopefully the scene is just them being like "Oh. Okay word, you scared us for a second we thought you were dying or something. We kinda had a feeling" anything more than that is pandering and unrealistic
@@RyanTheJay That's more or less how it is. A few extra scenes to flesh it out a little and show some reactions, but it's mostly just..."I'm Viktor now." "Okay, cool, but there's other shit going on"
@@jortalus well if you’re trans why can’t you just accept transphobic people for who they are?? That’s literally all you have to do. Just accept them.
@@pimp_floyd5024 I'm not trans. And I accept that you're hateful. I'm just telling you that you're hateful, and how to become less hateful, just in case you didn't know it.
But I can see you're aware of your hate and just don't care.
This show seems to have very awkwardly written moments.
just like real life XD
Allison is a horrible person this season. Like girl