Vay be Erkan Ogur Hocamiz taa ozamanlar teknik yönden cok cok ilerdeymis. Ve hala dinlemekten büyük bir keyif duydugum ve kendi baglama teknigimi, ufkumu genisletebildigim daha dogrusu örnek aldigim cok nadir sanatcilardan. Tesekkürler Erkan Hocam
hocam ellerinize sağlık.ellerinizden öpesim geldi yeminle...günümüzde bir sürü saçmalığı izleyen/dinleyen gençliğe,umarım bir gün ışık tutar eserleriniz...
@erix666 they're not 1/4 steps (or quarter tones), it's a micro interval which we call "koma" in Turkish Music. A koma is a 1/9 of a whole tone. Every middle eastern culture including Greece has a different scale system, this is the system of Turkish Music.
he has differrent style of playing e-bow. coz he is the best! keşke video milyonlarca izlenmiş olsaydı... böyle duygulu çalabilen bir insan nasıl bir dünyada yaşıyor acaba... çalarken ne düşünüyor, günlük hayatı nasıl geçiyor, muhabbet etmek isterdim. istediği her duyguyu her düşündüğünü çalabilecek bir yetenekte olmak, dünyaca tanınmak nasıl bir şey... ? çook çok iyi o bir üstad.....
I don't know what album he plays this song on, may be he never recorded it. But its name is "aşkın aldı benden beni" Its traditional melody on turkish sufi poem.
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Sanatçı kimliğini tüm benliğiyle taşıyan bir insan.
OK.. I do understand that this music is Microtonal..which is difficult for Western listeners to appreciate..as we have no equivalent in our system. Simply put, these are intervals that western ears are not used to hearing.
Hello, Mr Pal.. Thanks for explaining this to me ..no offense taken..I get it that my Western ears are not used to Microtonal music..though I DO like the idea of having the Octave consist of more than 12 notes! And I applaud ANYone who would attempt to play a Fretless guitar,as that seems VERY difficult to me!Clearly he is a great player.. and gets a sound unlike anything I have heard b4.
Hey, I bet you can get used to it by simply listening Turkish music. Also, here is a simple explanation written by me: As you know, there is either whole step or half step when it comes to western system. But in other parts of the world, the system is different. For instance, in Turkish music what you assume a whole step (let's say between C/do - D/re), we assume there are nine different notes between these two notes and we call these additional notes "koma" or "arıza." The same way, what you call a half step (let's say between E/mi - F/fa), we assume there are four different notes between them, we also assume that western fellas' half step concept is 4.5 koma, ours is 4; you do the math.
the fact is, he is the inventor of the fretless guitar (if you investigate the patents, you'll clearly discover) as well as many other instruments. he did not invent the e-bow but put a new dimension on it. well he does not search fame but true music lovers all over the world knows him.
Hey, Mr Rainbow Palwell:I Am a musician- and I HAVE listened to a LOT of different music-so I think my ears are pretty open. I have heard some Microtonal instruments-and I get the idea that Western ears are not all that attuned to intervals smaller than a 1/2 step.What I am hearing is that Mr Ogur(who is,by the way REALLY good on an admittedly difficult instrument)is playing is a fairly melodic style here-and at times lands on a few notes that don't seem to fit in the key of this tune.
Energy-Bow. They use an electronic field to vibrate the strings and cause them to resonate. The resulting note can go on for literally forever, until the battery runs out (or you run out of patience.
hi tim, i am classically trained in turkish music theory for more than 10 years (which is much more complicated than the western chromatic system) and in this recording i hear perfect pitch, so it is your ears, no offense. he plays notes which are very common in turkish songs (up the 16th, which western ears cannot even differentiate). so if there are notes that sound off to you, it is not the musician, but the listener :)
hmm.. not sure I agree..I thought he got a REALLY interesting tone here-wonder if he is tweaking a wah pedal a bit-there is some sort of filter thing happening-plus some nice jumps to the upper Harmonic. Very cool! Yeah,he drops a couple of clams-but so what? I almost wonder if he throws in some alternate Middle Eastern scales that just don't quite go with the pretty folky thing the other guy is doin.
He is not the inventor of the e-bow, he uses it a lot, but he is not the inventor, the inventor of the e-bow is Gregory S. Heet. Ebow is first used in 1969 and was later intruduced in the NAMM show in USA in 1976.
no clams in there...they are quarter notes, western ear cannot hear them in context...it is not the musicians fault, but the listeners. to me and many who are accustomed to it, this was perfect pitch and very melodic.
Anyone can post some info about this in English? This is a really old recording, I guess is from late 70's 'cause the guy is using one of the first E-bow models, the crome-mirror finish one
AlexZvook the answer will kind of late but sorry for making you wait 12 years. The electro guitarist is thr turkish guitarist erkan oğur who is the founder of frettles guitar. And the acoustic guitarist is bülent ortaçgil who is a close friend of oğur. You should go and listen them
your ears are not adjusted to quarter notes..he is playing in perfect pitch...your ear is not open enough to hear anything else than the western chromatic scale.
i think i can solve the conflict in this discussion, microtonal music, while maybe mathematically appreciable and possibly played perfectly in this fine example... sucks. get it together guys, you can do better than this. when a notes off key to the rhythm guitar, it's off key to the rhythm guitar. no matter how many generations they've been misled into believing it sounds good. sorry.
dünyaya gelmez böyle bir adam daha. bu yetenek ve bu mütevazilik zor bulunur bir sanatçıda...
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@@reandor neler değişti hayatında?
This guitar REALLY gently weep! Congratulations Mr. Erkan Ogur
Vay be Erkan Ogur Hocamiz taa ozamanlar teknik yönden cok cok ilerdeymis. Ve hala dinlemekten büyük bir keyif duydugum ve kendi baglama teknigimi, ufkumu genisletebildigim daha dogrusu örnek aldigim cok nadir sanatcilardan. Tesekkürler Erkan Hocam
hocam ellerinize sağlık.ellerinizden öpesim geldi yeminle...günümüzde bir sürü saçmalığı izleyen/dinleyen gençliğe,umarım bir gün ışık tutar eserleriniz...
@erix666 they're not 1/4 steps (or quarter tones), it's a micro interval which we call "koma" in Turkish Music. A koma is a 1/9 of a whole tone. Every middle eastern culture including Greece has a different scale system, this is the system of Turkish Music.
he has differrent style of playing e-bow. coz he is the best! keşke video milyonlarca izlenmiş olsaydı... böyle duygulu çalabilen bir insan nasıl bir dünyada yaşıyor acaba... çalarken ne düşünüyor, günlük hayatı nasıl geçiyor, muhabbet etmek isterdim. istediği her duyguyu her düşündüğünü çalabilecek bir yetenekte olmak, dünyaca tanınmak nasıl bir şey... ? çook çok iyi o bir üstad.....
I don't know what album he plays this song on, may be he never recorded it. But its name is "aşkın aldı benden beni" Its traditional melody on turkish sufi poem.
Sanatçı kimliğini tüm benliğiyle taşıyan bir insan.
Yunus Emre'ye özel ve derin bir ilgisi var Üstadın...
Yürekte dokunmadık yeri yok muazzam
OK.. I do understand that this music is Microtonal..which is difficult for Western listeners to appreciate..as we have no equivalent in our system.
Simply put, these are intervals that western ears are not used to hearing.
Hello, Mr Pal.. Thanks for explaining this to
me ..no offense taken..I get it that my Western ears are not used to Microtonal music..though I DO like the idea of having the Octave consist of more than 12 notes! And
I applaud ANYone who would attempt to play a Fretless guitar,as that seems VERY difficult to me!Clearly he is a great player.. and gets a sound unlike anything I have heard b4.
Hey, I bet you can get used to it by simply listening Turkish music. Also, here is a simple explanation written by me:
As you know, there is either whole step or half step when it comes to western system. But in other parts of the world, the system is different. For instance, in Turkish music what you assume a whole step (let's say between C/do - D/re), we assume there are nine different notes between these two notes and we call these additional notes "koma" or "arıza." The same way, what you call a half step (let's say between E/mi - F/fa), we assume there are four different notes between them, we also assume that western fellas' half step concept is 4.5 koma, ours is 4; you do the math.
the fact is, he is the inventor of the fretless guitar (if you investigate the patents, you'll clearly discover) as well as many other instruments. he did not invent the e-bow but put a new dimension on it. well he does not search fame but true music lovers all over the world knows him.
arkadaş tavsiye etti çok güzel. acaba o ses gitarlardan mı çıkıyor? ney midir nedir anlayamadık.
O ses gitardan çıkar arkadaşlar... Perdesiz olmak ve e-bow kullanmak koşuluyla...
Harika bu arada...
Hey, Mr Rainbow Palwell:I Am a musician-
and I HAVE listened to a LOT of different music-so I think my ears are pretty open.
I have heard some Microtonal instruments-and I get the idea that Western ears are not all that attuned to intervals smaller than a 1/2
step.What I am hearing is that Mr Ogur(who is,by the way REALLY good on an admittedly
difficult instrument)is playing is a fairly
melodic style here-and at times lands on a few notes that don't seem to fit in the key of this tune.
Energy-Bow. They use an electronic field to vibrate the strings and cause them to resonate. The resulting note can go on for literally forever, until the battery runs out (or you run out of patience.
ur ear is not used to hearing those 1/4 steps....in middle eastern music it is very common...those notes are sour to you but very natural to others
Yes right. Erkan Oğur is not the inventor of E-bow but he is the inventor of the fretless acoustic guitar (nylon stringed).
hi tim, i am classically trained in turkish music theory for more than 10 years (which is much more complicated than the western chromatic system) and in this recording i hear perfect pitch, so it is your ears, no offense.
he plays notes which are very common in turkish songs (up the 16th, which western ears cannot even differentiate). so if there are notes that sound off to you, it is not the musician, but the listener :)
Not all of us are ignorant, just most.
-a westerner
cok guzel... melodi, şol cennetin ırmakları?
evet çalamaz belki bu da alette marifet oldugu anlamına gelmez. bıçak olmadan domates kesemezsin bu da marifetin bıcakta oldugu anlamına gelmez.
Or you may also search it like "Şol cennetin ırmakları"
this video is almost 20 years old my friend..
Saçlar daha beyazlamamış ustamın...
Sounds very sad. Like background music for everone crying after someone just tragically died.
Gençlik bir başka...
hmm.. not sure I agree..I thought he got a
REALLY interesting tone here-wonder if he is tweaking a wah pedal a bit-there is some sort of filter thing happening-plus some nice jumps to the upper Harmonic. Very cool!
Yeah,he drops a couple of clams-but so what?
I almost wonder if he throws in some alternate Middle Eastern scales that just don't quite go with the pretty folky thing the other guy is doin.
Diğeri de Bülent Ortaçgil mi acaba? Yalnız ne denli duygulu ve hassas çalıyor ama değil mi? Ayrıca tipler kostümler çok klas :) hey gidi be...
12 koca yıl sonra biri nihayet bu yorumu gördü. Ta kendisi :)
diğeri de ortaçgil lan :))))
evet bi tane de sel al çal bakalım marifet aletteyse :)
absolutely stunning
Absolutly he is best fretless user . He dont need comment cause he is PERFECT .
Beaultiful....
this sounds really nice... i like it
Kral ya
He is not the inventor of the e-bow, he uses it a lot, but he is not the inventor, the inventor of the e-bow is Gregory S. Heet. Ebow is first used in 1969 and was later intruduced in the NAMM show in USA in 1976.
You do realise Bumblefoot uses a fretless guitar...
genclik:D
no clams in there...they are quarter notes, western ear cannot hear them in context...it is not the musicians fault, but the listeners.
to me and many who are accustomed to it, this was perfect pitch and very melodic.
Gel gör beni aşk neyledi :)
Baba o ne biçim çalış. Mest ettin bizi.
All Turks now that :)
Know what? There are Turkish friends I study with, they are not used to koma system if you meant that.
harika yaw
Is that weird Al Yankovic on the electric guitar? :P E-bows are cool.
He is a legend, Al Yankovic guy is a cheap comic. Don't insult Erkan Oğur, a living god.
mükemmel
şol cennetin ırmakları.
negativity will get you nowhere in this life.....
erkan abi = ekol
bir gitardan o ses nasıl çıkar anlamıs degilim. melodi zaten olaganüstü, üstad apayrı
song name please?
gel gor beni ask neyledi
"bana seni gerek seni"
Huh?
Anyone can post some info about this in English?
This is a really old recording, I guess is from late 70's 'cause the guy is using one of the first E-bow models, the crome-mirror finish one
AlexZvook the answer will kind of late but sorry for making you wait 12 years. The electro guitarist is thr turkish guitarist erkan oğur who is the founder of frettles guitar. And the acoustic guitarist is bülent ortaçgil who is a close friend of oğur. You should go and listen them
your ears are not adjusted to quarter notes..he is playing in perfect pitch...your ear is not open enough to hear anything else than the western chromatic scale.
very nice. terrible sound quality.
Yeah, unfortunately. Yet, still affects deeply; how do you like that? Brilliant eh?
olay e bow denen aletteymis
Bu hangi makam acaba?
Oğul KÖKER segah
I thought weird Al yankovech only played the accordion not the Ebow
Don't compare him to some cheap comic, Erkan Oğur is a legend. (I know you are joking around about the resemblance, but still...)
e bow olmadan erkan oğur da o sesi çıkaramaz ki.
E-bow verelim bakalım sen çıkarabiliyor musun? O kadar kolay değil e-bow kullanmak.
I'm not blaming anybody man, I realize that sound technology was shit back then. Just makin an observation haha
i think i can solve the conflict in this discussion, microtonal music, while maybe mathematically appreciable and possibly played perfectly in this fine example... sucks. get it together guys, you can do better than this. when a notes off key to the rhythm guitar, it's off key to the rhythm guitar. no matter how many generations they've been misled into believing it sounds good. sorry.
I guess, ignorance is bliss (in your case).
fretless guitar!!!!