And the many young kids in the 80's, or moms, or older folks who all had blood transfusions. On weekends, 8-year-olds were going clubbing and taking ecstasy, too. That must be how they got it.
I am still waiting for flat earthers to tell me the reason why, and what people gain from pushing a "round earth agenda". Conspiracy theorists are convinced of their beliefs, but they cant explain why their beliefs make any sense when confronted with any push back...
This discussion completely overlooks the fact that early on HIV was also transmitted through blood transfusions which then became AIDS in individuals who didn’t match any of the other factors that were brought up (no drugs, not gay, etc). We completely overhauled the way in which blood is donated because the evidence was very clear that 1. HIV was being transmitted via blood and 2. HIV caused AIDS in individuals who acquired it through contact with an infected person’s blood regardless of any other factors.
Go further. Talk about how the negative stigma against HIV infected people was embraced, and HIV infected people were largely ignored. Causing the disease to spread further because there was little effort toward education and prevention. Even though several organizations fighting HIV were screaming about blood being an avenue to infection.
@@mr.giggles4995 good. Keep talking about it. Talk about how the right is keeping this negative stigma alive, and directly keeping us from employing prevention measures for so many diseases.
@@mr.giggles4995 oh....you don't actually care about this and just want to run defense for the right by attacking Fauci. Mr "experts at the FDA is an oxymoron." Did you actually think you'd fool anyone? You're more transparent than cellophane.
and "evolutionary biologist" is a stretch considering that he WAS a evolutionary biology teacher at a not so great college many years ago. I can't believe that people still listen to that guy.
Also I love how Joe Rogan bragged about how he “beat Covid” referencing his healthy lifestyle (not being fat) but also he felt sick enough to have to take monoclonal antibodies to get better faster. You don’t get to have both... According to these guys, if you are fat and died from Covid then that’s your fault and I guess if you were gay and got HIV that’s your fault too. Also I’d like to add that JR never looked shittier. Everytime I see him he looks more and more like Danny Devito who has gotta be like 30 years older than him.
To a conservative, dying is only a tragedy if you’re a straight, white, young, fit, healthy person with no social life outside of church and your family, or your death can somehow be blamed on a non-white person.
It's funny because I am fat (but working on it! have lost some weight but it doesn't happen overnight). I got COVID for the first time last summer. It sucked. Not gonna lie about that. However, the only treatment I needed was a humidifier and lots of throad lozenges because the dry throat was extreme. I didn't need antibody infusions, and while I was definitely sick, I never felt my life was in danger. I was, however, vaccinated! Joe Rogan talks about how he didn't need the vaccine because he's in good shape, but he also threw the entire kitchen sink at COVID when he had it. I took the vaccine and was, unfortunately, not in good shape, but all I did was spend a week on my couch watching Netflix and sipping tea.
@@sandpiperr I’m glad you made it through. yes to presume that BMI Is the only indicator of health is silly. I’m not arguing that fat people are healthy but being thin does not automatically make you healthy. What I get annoyed at is how cruel people are to think that it’s their job to comment on someone body and point out what they perceive as weakness. We’ll guess what everyone has weaknesses, addictions, bad habits etc… perhaps you are just better at hiding them. So why does that make you superior? It doesn’t it just makes you an asshole. How would you like it if someone came to shine a light on your insecurities or fears.
@@WTFBUTWHY who treats him as outsider rebel media or whatever he thinks he is doing with his show? He is the most mainstream right-winger inflencer in the world! Is anybody outside of his fandom actually unaware of that and treats him like something else?
@@motombocolombomost obsessive people are from alt-left triggered snowflakes crying about shit Joe Rogen says. Literally Noone else treats him even in his podcast community as a reputable source or that his opinion carries more weight than experts. It's just another podcast channel to everyone besides the average low IQ leftwingerl besides the few. Kids that are MMA fans. Also he's a right wing? No just because he doesn't agree with everything lefties say don't mean he's a right wing, none of the alt right, right or far right will call him a right wing or accept him as one of them since he disagrees with their take a lot as well. Your obsession with him is blindingly skewed it seems guess you ain't no better than the guy you are obsessively angry with.
this is gross my uncle died of aids complications in 92 I was 10. I was diagnosed in 2006 with full blown aids and went to undetected in a year of taking medicine almost 18 years ago. it's hard but you can live I got a wife and kid and they have nothing. this rhetoric is gross
Not that you should because this is your personal business, but I think that people who's families dealt with hiv/aids should go after Rogan hard by calling his office or calling Spotify and demanding a disclaimer for that episode that the information was not fact checked. Or just ban him. I go for banning him. I feel like we need to as a country bring out the Names project again to shock the nation into realizing that comments like that are gross, ineffective, and dangerous. Seeing that as a child of the 80s floored me it was a wake up call. My condolences for your Uncle and I am happy that you are alive and well with your family.
I contracted HIV after i got assaulted when I was 20 years old. I thought my diagnosis was my fault regardless, and it took a long time for me to forgive myself in that way. Even if someone gets HIV in some other way, I never thought to blame the sick person for getting sick. Feels bad man.
as a straight man who has lost too many good friends whose sexuality i never worried about seeing as they were grown adults capable of dealing with reality too, this idiocy depresses me, but hey, depression is anger without enthusiasm, and it's hard to get enthused when nothing changes for the better ...
@Mick-fz9ne I agree that alex jones and rogan are delusional. here is a good test to find out if somebody is grifting: are they selling pills? if the answer is yes, then they cant be trusted.
@@berniethekiwidragon4382 "Oh, you got cancer? Lemme tell ya, I knew a guy in Ditchwater, you know what he did? Lemon peels! Yeah, he's dead now. Big Pharma got him."
@@alr2157 It's funny when a Rogan fan accuses other people of being dumber than they are. It would be funny if they were capable of understanding the meaning of irony.
Jesus Christ, Weinstein sounds like my old roommate who effectively failed out of gradeschool (not even sure how that's possible but his mom confirmed it lol) when he says "tHe EvIdEnCe iS VeRy CoMpElLiNg". Like yeah man, everything is compelling when you don't know even enough to realize why it's total nonsense.. _that's how not knowing something works!_ You don't know what you don't know. That's why we used to let doctors make these decisions, but apparently we're all secret super geniuses now 🙄
There is an extremely easy way Montagnier could "prove" he's right and the medical establishment is wrong. Barry Marshall won a Nobel Prize by drinking a sample of H. Pylori to demonstrate it was a contributor to ulcers and gastritis. So. If he's so sure, then pony up. Let's see exactly what the isolated symptoms of HIV are.
the guy is a prime example, that a person can have a average IQ and solid education and still be a complete idi*t. A walking manifestation of Dunning-Kruger. He made zero scientific contributions during his "career", but is so up in his own *ss that he talks about every topic as if he is an expert. Even before covid, he spent his time with his wife on their podcast to criticize the wording in research papers and it was already obvious that they are way out of their competence zone. With the right spin, we could sell this guy that the earth is flat and he would find that evidence convincing too.
Yeah this just shows how racist these guys are that they ignore an entire continent of people who are dying of a disease. Any argument they have falls apart with even a second of thought about the world.
AIDS is caused also by MALNUTRITION!! That is why AIDS was a known disease a lot earlier than HIV hypothesis. When one does not get nutrition (ingredients) that body needs for proper functioning, immune system disfunctions.
Brett Weinstein is a biologist, which means that (unlike Rogan) he does not have the excuse of ignorance. Either he's knowingly spreading misinformation or he's thoroughly incompetent in his field.
This clip is only a snippet, it doesn't cover the entire reasoning. Aids is not a disease in and of itself, it's a condition of the immune system whereby through various avenues it becomes so exhausted it cannot bounce back and another disease takes hold. The main issue was that HIV was being detected and azt was being prescribed, the 'cure' for what is most likely a benign 'virus' was what was actually doing the damage. It's similar to chemo but stronger. Someone is healthy, gets tested, positive returns, no symptoms of anything, azt given, over with within a month. Doesn't that ring an alarm bell?
@@GreedRunsall Not being able to include the full name of the subject in a sentence is intellectually lazy... and has nothing to do with anyone but yourself.
@@TruthrConsequences critical thinking and being able to recognize context and put those together is an important skill. Based on the video and my comment, the point I was making was obvious. Work on picking up context clues and stop being pedantic
@@GreedRunsall Pedantic is the art of refusing to admit you could do better... and then blaming those who point out your failures. Surprised you aren't a Trump fan.
The smug look on Rogan's face while spouting his nonsense is really something. Edit: Brandon's take on this is spot on 7:49. This is the source of that smug look. He's regurgitating "secret and hidden knowledge" which proves he's a very special boy and feeling incredibly proud of himself.
Layne Norton has a great clip talking about how often highly educated people fall victim to wild ideologies because they tend to believe they’re too smart to be duped.
It has a name: Nobel Disease, named after Nobel prize winners because there's one too many who've had their moments like Montaigner. It's very dissapointing at the amount of these winners who believe in homeopathy.
Kind of weird for a staunch legalization/decriminalization guy like Rogan to demonize drugs in such a way. I get that he prefers weed, DMT, HGH, Ivermectin, etc. to coke, MDMA, or K, but still.
As someone who listened to rogans show back in 2012 and seen the whole evolution, basically he just used to fuck around and say anything for laughs. Eventually he had more serious guests and stopped joking with them, willing to hear anyone out who he felt deserved to be heard more than they were and be exposed to a different audience. You can see how this led him to the grifter pipeline, as well as becoming insanely rich from doing so (he was rich compared to normal people for a long time but on a whole new level since the first spotify deal). After covid and George Floyd riots and moving to texas he just became full blown radicalized by right wing nonsense. I was 14 years old back in 2012 and i will always have love in my heart for joe, I'm a fan of UFC and used to watch old fear factors with my mom. But it is sad to watch his decline. What's really crazy is that he was scheduled to get vaccinated for covid and didn't change his mind til johnson and johnson got pulled, and if he actually had the shot he probably would never have gotten this bad. I still don't think he has bad intentions but he feels he has no responsibility for how big his audience is and will continue to say and do whatever to appeal to his new audience that made him rich as fuck
He's just dumb and thinks he can "both sides" everything, when he's clearly one side. He brings on "experts" generally discredited by their own peers. He gets fact checked by his guy on the show *constantly* and just dismisses anything counter to what he was saying. Like when a toddler is telling you a story and they keep interrupting themselves.
THink of how unreasoned and delusional and devoid of critical thinking ability rogan is....now remember his audience is somehow worse at all of it. It's terrifying really.
You are literally listening to an alt left channel. Same with Joe. Neither are any more reputable than other. Just look at a mirror if you are still confused as to why.
Cancel your Spotify account if you haven't already. I moved to Tidal two years ago, was able to import all my playlists and favorite tracks. It's also better for the artists. Don't give this man any money.
Is their artists library as expansive as Spotify? Same features? UI and UE okay? How about audio quality? I may switch over, just don’t want to switch to something worse
A lot of the denialists don't believe the virus exists, or don't believe the virus is harmful, the belief is that the victims' alleged lifestyle of drugs and gay sex destroys their immune systems and the finding of the virus is an incidental finding and not the cause of their condition.
Dr Susan Oliver tackles all of these anti vax grifters like Weinstein and Campbell with thorough scientific data based debunks on her youtube channel. Well worth a watch. She's the kind of guest Rogan would never interview.
My issues with Faucci on AIDS was that he was touting a vaccine instead of promoting treatment drugs. This insistence delayed effective treatments for being developed. But he was sounding the alarms that it was a serious issue from the beginning while the Reagan administration looked at it as just a gay man issue and the religious right was ussing it as a propaganda tool against the gay lifestyle.
Emma Vigeland wins the 'Best Main Host' category, in my opinion. Her empathetic interview with the Canadian doctor discussing Gaza was raw and emotional and has to be one of the best interviews conducted by any journalist while covering Israel's latest massacre.
I'm just worried my Rogan listening friend is going to start spouting aids denial-ism next time I run into him.... It's bad enough he basically believes in Atlantis now because Rogan keeps having Graham Hancock on.
my only question about rogan is how does a man who's never been in a real fight in his life get so concussed? he doesn't play football, he doesn't play hockey, he only "trains" at mma. how does such a man get so thick he should require a hockey helmet and minders to move from room to room?
Joe was a state champion in Taekwondo and a BJJ black belt. He’s definitely been in fights. He said he stopped competing in taekwondo because he felt he had cognitive issues
I don't think he was that smart to begin with. But I'll defer to him on one subject only : fighting. Everything else better off asking a farm animal. Maybe fun to do drugs with but didn't stop him from loving cranky cranky cranks who make the 1950s look square
Luc Montagnier's 2008 Nobel Prize was for research he, with others, carried out in the 1980s. However, by the time he got the prize, he had already gone off the deep end with research into homeopathy (aka magic water). More recently, he claimed to be able to record DNA in water with a microphone, sent it as an email attachment to another lab where they could reconstruct the DNA. His current ideas are truly insane.
I don't know about DNA in water but sending complex information as sound is old tech, that part is just something feasible (though unnecessary) that sounds new but isnt.
@@mddawson1 I meant that sound is just another way to transcribe data, it's just a medium for information. I have no idea about constructing DNA from any type of information. It's like saying I converted my spreadsheet into light, and then someone took that light and made it into my spreadsheet, but really it was just a fibre optic cable.
@@Silverfirefly1 He is literally saying that DNA in water can be transcribed using a microphone. As in the sequence of the DNA in water is a tone sequence you can record!
@berjanbeen7188 I appreciate you saving me from having to look at his stuff directly. Sounds...ambitious. I once correctly deduced the dna of an animal, acoustically by being submerged in water (it was a whale).
I took a 2 day emergency management class from the guy who was Head Fire Chief of San Francisco during the 70's-80's and AIDS crisis. The stories he told were out of this world. If he had kept a journal it would have been a hit movie.
A scientist who doesn't seem to understand how science works. Not medical science anyway. If the evidence was compelling medical science would be compelled by it.
Bret was a textbook progressive, and then as soon as they came after him in 2016 (perhaps, or certainly, in an OTT manner tbf) he just began tarnishing every tenet he once claimed to be a believer in. He was never convicted, he just believed in what was the norm at academia, now he has a new crowd and he's adopted their arrogant fringe beliefs. They just like the idea of being smarter than the scientific mainstream, that's the appeal of conspiracy creeps, a feeling of intellectual superiority without having to actually put in any effort. Rogan and Weinstein are just so contemptible, ffs...
@@PerryUK EVERY SINGLE conspiracy on earth.... Comes from the US of Murca. Its clearly a cultural issue. I did 2 university degrees in the UK so I have been there long enough to have a British passport... There is plenty of populism and right-wing lunacy there too. But its different. Brits have something called shame, guilt, but also wit, subtleties, and charm. All of which seem non-existant in the US. This prevents Brits from ever going all-in and going extremist on things. Also a British conservative is something very different from an American conservative.
I'm highly skeptical of any evolutionary biologist who cites a book by RFK Jr., trashing Anthony Fauci, when discussing virology. That's more ridiculous than if Ron DeSantis wrote a book about Schwarzenegger's misunderstanding of body building, then having that nonsense promoted by a personal trainer. Even still, Joe Rogan would probably call that sh!t out immediately. I don't know what the hell happened to Rogan. He used to call himself an idiot all the time (very self-aware to the point of deprecation) and promote the need for evidence to back up wild claims. Then he slipped into conspiracy-land with his podcast and allowed the insane ramblings of a brain damaged UFC fighter to put him on the fence about the Moon landings. I remember his short-lived series about investigating UFO and paranormal claims, in which he accused a Skinwalker proponent of breaking his BS meter. Another time, he snapped on a UFO guy, and went on an angry rant about how all they have are claims. It's like he's not even the same person anymore. His brain is gone.
Can we just accept that this is now primarily a Spotify problem? Joe Rogan was mostly little more than an innocuous edgelord, but thanks to his Spotify deal, he's an endless fountain of disinformation and misinformation. This is by design.
@@IshtarNikeThat just helps OP's argument. If he was already big before Spotify only made him bigger then they're just spreading his disinformation further.
AIDS is caused also by MALNUTRITION!! That is why AIDS was a known disease a lot earlier than HIV hypothesis. When one does not get nutrition (ingredients) that body needs for proper functioning, immune system disfunctions.
What’s weird with this anti covid vaccines stuff is if there was only one vaccine it would make sense but there were a number of them made. Which makes this theory make less sense
I really don't follow your logic here. How does one vaccine existing in anyway make any theory more or less likely? I guess tell me what theory your talking about first.
This is a good time to bring up the of Nobel syndome. Nobel laureates sometimes become cranks after winning their nobel prize. They become overconfident in their ideas and go down really stupid paths, and no one stops them becasue it's risky to do so.
The manufacturer of the aids drugs has know for decades about the damage they do and knows a less harmful substitute but was really slow to switch over it if they switched at all. John Oliver did a show on it about the time there was a class action lawsuit; maybe, I think…
throughout history, people tried to blame disease on the character or lifestyle of the sufferer. they did it with TB, leprosy, etc. turned out those were both bacterial infections 😄
Man, once I was talking about ancient egypt and a guy butted in and talked all about some dumb pseudohistory he heard on joe rogan instead. Its insane how people have a preference for complete lies
I have to admit that human trials of drugs on people, and it’s onset is usually not great and the repercussions can be very sad but, there is no other way… We can test on lab animals and theorize about stuff all day long but until case studies are completed and drugs are tested on human beings we will never know what works and what does not. As long as people are informed and understand that before they start these drugs, then it is perfectly permissible. The only stuff that is not OK is when people don’t know what they’re being exposed to. The bleeding edge of medicine can look terrible, but that’s exactly how we’ve solved most the the very harmful diseases. Risk vs reward.
Just because he's a biologist, does not mean he is a *credited* biologist. Science is peer to peer review, if you can't pass the peer review you get discredited. Your research needs to always be able to stand up to scrutiny.
AIDS is caused also by MALNUTRITION!! That is why AIDS was a known disease a lot earlier than HIV hypothesis. When one does not get nutrition (ingredients) that body needs for proper functioning, immune system disfunctions.
You have to love that people always have these weird conspiracies about AIDS but they never actually bring up the fact that the medical community experimented on the predominantly homosexual Community using failed chemotherapy treatments that had nothing to do with actually treating the illness itself... some serious Tuskegee vibes... Edit: Mind you the issue isn't that the drug itself was ineffective or not but rather the methodology by which doctors sought informed consent from the sufferers.
The reason why doctors were doing chemo was because they thought it was cancer. This is a well documented fact. They didn’t know what HIV or AIDS was. Gay men were coming in with cancer that had been caused by the HIV infection. Once they learned what it was chemo treatments were stopped. So maybe you should educate yourself on this issue before running the mouth.
@@darth_kal-elit’s not even they thought it was cancer, it 100% WAS cancer. HIV leads to people’s developing cancers. It’s pretty reasonable to therefore think you have to treat that cancer, until they figured out there was an underlying cause to the cancers. As you said, this is medicine and history 101. Not even to the level of a conspiracy theorist. He’s just wrong.
@darth_kal-el reading comprehension not your strong suit? Why don't you go ahead and do a little more research about the process of informed consent and how many people were deceived back then. Were you even alive at the time?
When AIDS took Freddie Mercury, you'd have thought people would've taken it more seriously. It was taken people who were well beloved my many. No. Even now, over 30 years later, misinformation and willful ignorance over the subject. It's not just stupidity, these people actually want to deny the truth. They actually want to be against what is commonly known. Spotify should be stripped of all music rights, they are not a worthy platform.
I was working in a record store then, and I did see a slow kind of change his death caused. When he died, a co-worker whispered that it may have been aids that killed him. Five years on, artists like George Michael & Michael Stipe are coming out; five years after that, same sex marriage as a topic becomes a mainstream issue. It's an agonizingly slow process that thugs on the right want to stop, but once the taboo's broken, they can't. It doesn't stop them from trying, though & a lot of people get hurt. I hope it doesn't take so long to enshrine & protect trans peoples rights. EDIT - actually, there were other things going on at the time of his death, IE - Diana's amazing (like, amazing) ease with HIV patients. I'd forgotten about that -- I shouldn't have. Mathew Shepperd's murder shocked the US, too. Me, I live for music, so that's how I marked that era. PS I had this mad crush on Michael Stipe -- rabid R.E.M. fan here, so I was hilariously pissed off.
You didn't ramble at all -- the feedback I'm getting from posts I've made have really cheered me up. I'm usually quiet, it's a depressive thing. The way the right's weaponized trans issues has indeed been about distraction - it's all they have, but it pisses me off that they picked the most vulnerable group of all. I moved to rural Ontario a few years ago, so one of my brothers delights in his right-wing Trumpism north, though much of it makes him cringe. I hope he looks at the picture of the kid who got killed in an Oklahoma bathroom and at the very least starts shutting down crap when he sees it. He's capable of that much (I, err, posted the pic on my wall. He used to be a single issuem [gun rights, sigh] conservative voter: time to return to that & ditch the crowd he's running with). I can't believe I'm approaching (omg) sixty. I mean, not yet! but close, it's getting close. I still find new music to listen to, but I'm happy with the favourites I've loved since the 90s (cough, my most favourite: U2. Despite tax issues. Ugh. For all sorts of reasons that I won't go into because I'm talking enough as it is). My niecebeast & neighbours assure me that the music scene is, if anything, richer than it used to be. The way musicians & writers & poets & ?actors? all kind of come together in ways that can be really beautiful. After 2016, historians started coming forward. Jon Stewart's back! I see regular peoples' voices on social media -- their wit & intelligence can be humbling, and even though it feels as if bona-fide fascists are gaining the upper hand, decent people outweigh the bad ones.
My depression tends to make me more rambly, often worried that I'm annoying people or upsetting them, so I feel a need to explain myself, then explain that, then talk incessantly XD. You might like Tennessee Brando, he covers the Oklahoma non binary kid very well. There are also a lot of people on the left who are pro gun. I'm not, but I'm also not American, I live in Scotland. Guns just aren't a big thing around here. (Instead it's stabbings, sigh) Sixty? It's time to start worrying about 70, all through my 20s I was worried about 30, and now that I am thirty, I'm worrying about 40. I imagine when I'm 40 I'll worry about 50. My mother used to listen to Queen and lot's of other classic rock. But she's moved on to stuff like Tyler Childers, Mike and the Moonpies (Who are apparently Silverada now, doesn't sound as good) and Willie Nelson. Some of it sounds pretty good, might be worth a look. Most decent people are quiet. Nobody gets loud about something good happening. Bad news spreads incredibly fast. Negative people stand out. There are thousands of comments on videos talking in agreement. But the ones that stand out, are the angry ones. The ones that get responses, are hateful ones. Good stuff is harder to see. But it's far more numerous than negative stuff. @@1michelemichele1
the weird thing about this is, rogan had peter duesberg on the podcast many years ago, and its known as one of his most heated podcasts because he strongly disagreed with the guy and thought his logic was bad. crazy to just hear him accepting duesberg's research at face value when it comes from weinstien, a seeming 180 from his original position when he had the actual dude on his show
As a South African, we're well aware of the consequences of HIV/AIDS denialism. In the late 1990s & early 2000s, the HIV/AIDS denialism of our then president, Thabo Mbeki, is estimated to have lead to between 300,000 to 350,000 preventable deaths because ARVs were only widely made available from 2006 (after he left office). Our latest HIV prevalence rates are still high at 12.7% (but were, in the past, even higher than that). It is still a devastating scourge in our country, but at least treatment is now widely available. I have a friend whose husband died of AIDS. She is HIV positive herself. Thankfully, she was able to start ART while pregnant with her son. She has still not progressed to AIDS and her beautiful (now teenage) son was born HIV negative thanks to the ART. Weinstein and Rogan are just hideous ghouls. Dr Susan Oliver just did a great video on this on her channel. It is well worth the watch.
To be fair, I think the argument is that we don't know what causes hiv to trigger into aids. You need both the virus and the trigger, and back in the 90s I'd heard of some particularly young gays who died of aids relatively quickly after catching the virus, like within only a few years, maybe under 5. This is a virus that usually has a 10 year incubation period.
Man I used to be an avid Joe Rogan listener. Covid completely broke that guy's brain. Dude can't go one episode without talking about trans people and covid it's absolutely insane.
AZT was in it's infancy just like morphine they didn't know how much to use it. Secondly AZT is still used in formula for the medications that save lives today.
This isn’t meant to be engaged with seriously - it’s a thing to get people talking, controversy drives clicks, a grifter’s major currency. Joe Rogan is, as usual, an irresponsible fool with his platform.
Over the last six years he has definitely become more and more crazy and irresponsible. I remember when he was a relatively harmless chucklehead. I don't understand how he got so huge and so unhinged.
Well said, I think that's exactly the way they are looking at it as content. It's just a shame that people will buy into it so hard. I have a friend who is convinced about a bunch of bullshit theories about the end of the last ice age that he got from seeing Graham Hancock on Joe's show a bunch of times. I have a god damned M.S. in Geology and my thesis research was on the last deglacial period, but somehow he always ends up telling me I need to do more research if I disagree with him about it. It's infuriating, Hancock doesn't even give a damn about the subject, it's just something he's using as a stepping stone to prove Atlantis is real. But Joe wants to talk about it for clicks, so now my friend does too, by proxy.
As a man who unjustifiably thinks he can become serviceably knowledgeable about most subjects if given a week or less to learn about them, I am always blown away by just how much more egregiously confident Joe Rogan is than even myself. And then to impart all those overly confident ideas to an enormous audience? The audacity.
So then 'Party Drugs' are super common in Africa, where there is a substantial number of AIDS cases...
ssshh, the rogester don't want no reality ruining his roging ..., no money in truth.
Exactly. And the toddler who died from catching hiv from breastfeeding, how is that explained?
And the many young kids in the 80's, or moms, or older folks who all had blood transfusions. On weekends, 8-year-olds were going clubbing and taking ecstasy, too. That must be how they got it.
@@MosDaft Haven't you seen A Clockwork Orange? Milk is a dangerous party drug lol.
Yes, Africa is so poor because everybody spends all their money on party drugs, and then they have no money left over for anything else.
Brett is gonna be a Flat Earther talking about Hitler's underground bunker before the end of the year if he keeps this momentum up.
He does seem to be on a certain trajectory!
Well said, @Lime_Pillows , Brett is a wasted brain
It's probably the best path for him to get Elon to unblock him.
Even flat earthers, as wrong as they are, don't do nearly as much societal damage as people like Brett and Rogan.
I am still waiting for flat earthers to tell me the reason why, and what people gain from pushing a "round earth agenda". Conspiracy theorists are convinced of their beliefs, but they cant explain why their beliefs make any sense when confronted with any push back...
This discussion completely overlooks the fact that early on HIV was also transmitted through blood transfusions which then became AIDS in individuals who didn’t match any of the other factors that were brought up (no drugs, not gay, etc). We completely overhauled the way in which blood is donated because the evidence was very clear that 1. HIV was being transmitted via blood and 2. HIV caused AIDS in individuals who acquired it through contact with an infected person’s blood regardless of any other factors.
This is all that needs to be said to completely dismiss this nonsense.
Go further. Talk about how the negative stigma against HIV infected people was embraced, and HIV infected people were largely ignored. Causing the disease to spread further because there was little effort toward education and prevention.
Even though several organizations fighting HIV were screaming about blood being an avenue to infection.
@@brandonrathbone3690 and Fauci largely ignored it... he also said it was mainly in the gay community which further increased the stigma.
@@mr.giggles4995 good. Keep talking about it. Talk about how the right is keeping this negative stigma alive, and directly keeping us from employing prevention measures for so many diseases.
@@mr.giggles4995 oh....you don't actually care about this and just want to run defense for the right by attacking Fauci.
Mr "experts at the FDA is an oxymoron." Did you actually think you'd fool anyone? You're more transparent than cellophane.
Im an evolutionary bioligist that read a book by a lawyer that is running for president that talks about diseases. Trust me bro!
Lol
I nearly fell out of bed when he cited that book. WTF???
and "evolutionary biologist" is a stretch considering that he WAS a evolutionary biology teacher at a not so great college many years ago. I can't believe that people still listen to that guy.
all sexually transmitted disease comes from bum sex.... ALL
😂
Also I love how Joe Rogan bragged about how he “beat Covid” referencing his healthy lifestyle (not being fat) but also he felt sick enough to have to take monoclonal antibodies to get better faster. You don’t get to have both...
According to these guys, if you are fat and died from Covid then that’s your fault and I guess if you were gay and got HIV that’s your fault too.
Also I’d like to add that JR never looked shittier. Everytime I see him he looks more and more like Danny Devito who has gotta be like 30 years older than him.
To a conservative, dying is only a tragedy if you’re a straight, white, young, fit, healthy person with no social life outside of church and your family, or your death can somehow be blamed on a non-white person.
The long-term effects of having covid are still showing themself. Who knows what he did to his health taking ivermectin etc.
It's funny because I am fat (but working on it! have lost some weight but it doesn't happen overnight).
I got COVID for the first time last summer.
It sucked. Not gonna lie about that. However, the only treatment I needed was a humidifier and lots of throad lozenges because the dry throat was extreme.
I didn't need antibody infusions, and while I was definitely sick, I never felt my life was in danger.
I was, however, vaccinated!
Joe Rogan talks about how he didn't need the vaccine because he's in good shape, but he also threw the entire kitchen sink at COVID when he had it.
I took the vaccine and was, unfortunately, not in good shape, but all I did was spend a week on my couch watching Netflix and sipping tea.
@@sandpiperr I’m glad you made it through. yes to presume that BMI Is the only indicator of health is silly. I’m not arguing that fat people are healthy but being thin does not automatically make you healthy. What I get annoyed at is how cruel people are to think that it’s their job to comment on someone body and point out what they perceive as weakness. We’ll guess what everyone has weaknesses, addictions, bad habits etc… perhaps you are just better at hiding them. So why does that make you superior? It doesn’t it just makes you an asshole. How would you like it if someone came to shine a light on your insecurities or fears.
Raised some good points. Never thought much of Rogan. Happy for him he got that 100 mil.
He is causing and doing more harm than even he knows
He doesn't know a lot of stuff. He also doesn't think of himself as mainstream media.
@@motombocolombonot his fault y’all treat him as such
@@WTFBUTWHY who treats him as outsider rebel media or whatever he thinks he is doing with his show? He is the most mainstream right-winger inflencer in the world! Is anybody outside of his fandom actually unaware of that and treats him like something else?
@@motombocolombomost obsessive people are from alt-left triggered snowflakes crying about shit Joe Rogen says.
Literally Noone else treats him even in his podcast community as a reputable source or that his opinion carries more weight than experts. It's just another podcast channel to everyone besides the average low IQ leftwingerl besides the few. Kids that are MMA fans.
Also he's a right wing? No just because he doesn't agree with everything lefties say don't mean he's a right wing, none of the alt right, right or far right will call him a right wing or accept him as one of them since he disagrees with their take a lot as well.
Your obsession with him is blindingly skewed it seems guess you ain't no better than the guy you are obsessively angry with.
@@WTFBUTWHY oh honey....so the most listened to podcast in the USA, is somehow NOT mainstream?
Come on! You should have a brain. Use it.
Brett conveniently omits that Luc Montagnier became a quack who endorsed homeopathy and the memory of water bs.
Exactly!
this is gross my uncle died of aids complications in 92 I was 10. I was diagnosed in 2006 with full blown aids and went to undetected in a year of taking medicine almost 18 years ago. it's hard but you can live I got a wife and kid and they have nothing. this rhetoric is gross
Not that you should because this is your personal business, but I think that people who's families dealt with hiv/aids should go after Rogan hard by calling his office or calling Spotify and demanding a disclaimer for that episode that the information was not fact checked. Or just ban him. I go for banning him.
I feel like we need to as a country bring out the Names project again to shock the nation into realizing that comments like that are gross, ineffective, and dangerous. Seeing that as a child of the 80s floored me it was a wake up call.
My condolences for your Uncle and I am happy that you are alive and well with your family.
do you think you got it from your uncle? 😢
@prazzyad ok you a funny Lil bi$th .naw I got it from yo nasty momma 🤣
Being HIV myself, who never did "party drugs" this is disgusting.
🙌
Ur HIV positive? U haven't developed aids?
Jesus Christ this is so dumb it made me depressed; this is coming from someone in the field who treated HIV-positive patients.
My jar literally dropped. HIV and AIDS was standard health ed in elementary school when I was a kid. Like, wtf, we know this shit already.
stupidity became best dopamine drug
I contracted HIV after i got assaulted when I was 20 years old. I thought my diagnosis was my fault regardless, and it took a long time for me to forgive myself in that way. Even if someone gets HIV in some other way, I never thought to blame the sick person for getting sick. Feels bad man.
As a gay man who has friends with HIV this fucking infuriates me. Spreading complete bullshit like this is incredibly dangerous.
@Mick-fz9ne this guy made his acc 13 minutes ago as of posting
@Mick-fz9neso you're pretending conservatives can't get HIV.
@Mick-fz9ne*You're. If you can't spell, don't comment.
MAGAs, minion Republicans, conspiracy theorists, they are all very very dangerous. In fact sometimes I think they are simply trying to kill us all.
as a straight man who has lost too many good friends whose sexuality i never worried about seeing as they were grown adults capable of dealing with reality too, this idiocy depresses me, but hey, depression is anger without enthusiasm, and it's hard to get enthused when nothing changes for the better ...
Joe Rogan is a less frothy Alex Jones now. Rogan has positioned himself as the pied piper to Idiocracy.
@Mick-fz9ne I agree that alex jones and rogan are delusional. here is a good test to find out if somebody is grifting: are they selling pills? if the answer is yes, then they cant be trusted.
@Mick-fz9ne Cope and seethe, kid
"Welcome to the Mothership, I love you.
Welcome to the Mothership, I love you."
Joe Rogan is the bar tender that thinks he's smart because he doubts the easy stuff.
This defines like 80% of the right.
Bar tender who talks too much and listens too little.
@@berniethekiwidragon4382 "Oh, you got cancer? Lemme tell ya, I knew a guy in Ditchwater, you know what he did? Lemon peels! Yeah, he's dead now. Big Pharma got him."
Like aoc?
@@Dan16673just grasping at straws, eh?
It has been beyond any reasonable doubt that Joe Rogan is doing serious harm to his listeners, and to the culture in general. Boo this man
Koolaid much.
@@tonybeef1142much too much.
I sure hope I'm dead before we get the inevitable President Joe rogan
Go to the episode and read the comments if you want to be depressed about how stupid so many people can be..
@@alr2157 It's funny when a Rogan fan accuses other people of being dumber than they are. It would be funny if they were capable of understanding the meaning of irony.
Jesus Christ, Weinstein sounds like my old roommate who effectively failed out of gradeschool (not even sure how that's possible but his mom confirmed it lol) when he says "tHe EvIdEnCe iS VeRy CoMpElLiNg". Like yeah man, everything is compelling when you don't know even enough to realize why it's total nonsense.. _that's how not knowing something works!_ You don't know what you don't know. That's why we used to let doctors make these decisions, but apparently we're all secret super geniuses now 🙄
There is an extremely easy way Montagnier could "prove" he's right and the medical establishment is wrong. Barry Marshall won a Nobel Prize by drinking a sample of H. Pylori to demonstrate it was a contributor to ulcers and gastritis. So. If he's so sure, then pony up. Let's see exactly what the isolated symptoms of HIV are.
the guy is a prime example, that a person can have a average IQ and solid education and still be a complete idi*t. A walking manifestation of Dunning-Kruger. He made zero scientific contributions during his "career", but is so up in his own *ss that he talks about every topic as if he is an expert. Even before covid, he spent his time with his wife on their podcast to criticize the wording in research papers and it was already obvious that they are way out of their competence zone. With the right spin, we could sell this guy that the earth is flat and he would find that evidence convincing too.
"it looks like it."
The common conspiracy cover.
It's called doin yer own research...a.k.a. "jumping to your own conclusions"
Grifters blowing smoke up their 🍑 give them big heads.
All those orphans in Africa who have no idea their moms were doing party drugs and AZT and that’s why they died in a remote village.
Yeah this just shows how racist these guys are that they ignore an entire continent of people who are dying of a disease. Any argument they have falls apart with even a second of thought about the world.
@@userasdf it was through malnutrition, not necessarily HIV, the racism is the West using Africa as a pharma playground.
AIDS is caused also by MALNUTRITION!! That is why AIDS was a known disease a lot earlier than HIV hypothesis. When one does not get nutrition (ingredients) that body needs for proper functioning, immune system disfunctions.
This ends in lizard people and Nazi moon bases
Lmaooo 😂
Rogan's brain has been slowly leaking out his ears these last few years.
I swear the more money he makes the stupider he gets.
Who knew smoking drugs turns your brain to mush?
He's aged about 20 years in the past 8
For the past decade at least.
I believe that's called Giuliani Syndrome.
Brett Weinstein is a biologist, which means that (unlike Rogan) he does not have the excuse of ignorance. Either he's knowingly spreading misinformation or he's thoroughly incompetent in his field.
If you looked it up for yourself you'd see he's actually right.being a lamen does not give you the excuse of ignorance either.
He's wrong, dude, and if you believe him then you're the mark.
This clip is only a snippet, it doesn't cover the entire reasoning. Aids is not a disease in and of itself, it's a condition of the immune system whereby through various avenues it becomes so exhausted it cannot bounce back and another disease takes hold. The main issue was that HIV was being detected and azt was being prescribed, the 'cure' for what is most likely a benign 'virus' was what was actually doing the damage. It's similar to chemo but stronger. Someone is healthy, gets tested, positive returns, no symptoms of anything, azt given, over with within a month. Doesn't that ring an alarm bell?
The causal link from HIV to AIDS has been unequivocally established, and any claim to the contrary is disinformation.
That's right @@jackiemoon1556
Imagine reading a book by RFK and thinking "yeah that tracks"
Imagine making a defamatory post about RFK and thinking "yeah that tracks." Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. is not RFK!
@@TruthrConsequences ah yes, not being able to use context clues to know I'm obviously referring to jr
@@GreedRunsall Not being able to include the full name of the subject in a sentence is intellectually lazy... and has nothing to do with anyone but yourself.
@@TruthrConsequences critical thinking and being able to recognize context and put those together is an important skill. Based on the video and my comment, the point I was making was obvious. Work on picking up context clues and stop being pedantic
@@GreedRunsall Pedantic is the art of refusing to admit you could do better... and then blaming those who point out your failures. Surprised you aren't a Trump fan.
The smug look on Rogan's face while spouting his nonsense is really something.
Edit: Brandon's take on this is spot on 7:49. This is the source of that smug look. He's regurgitating "secret and hidden knowledge" which proves he's a very special boy and feeling incredibly proud of himself.
Gnosticism is making a comeback, sadly.
Layne Norton has a great clip talking about how often highly educated people fall victim to wild ideologies because they tend to believe they’re too smart to be duped.
It has a name: Nobel Disease, named after Nobel prize winners because there's one too many who've had their moments like Montaigner. It's very dissapointing at the amount of these winners who believe in homeopathy.
Happens when you get high on your own supply. Drug dealers know about it, yet academia doesn't.
This is every gov employee
In walks woman who was recently scammed out of 50k, whose job was writing articles on how not to be scammed out of money.
@@1MarkKeller that was awesome
what century is this?
1984
the final one.
A bad one apparently. I'm beginning to lose faith in humanity thanks to garbage like Joe's spreading.
The question I frequently ask is, "What timeline is this?"
The 20th, apparently.
An evolutionary biologist read a book by Robert Kennedy Jr. and found it credible? This is a joke.
Kind of weird for a staunch legalization/decriminalization guy like Rogan to demonize drugs in such a way. I get that he prefers weed, DMT, HGH, Ivermectin, etc. to coke, MDMA, or K, but still.
It's always only the drugs they take, that are fine. All the drugs they don't take are of course evil. Most prominent example: Alcohol.
Rules for thee but not for me.
His second biggest priority is decriminalization/legalization. His first priority is to platform bigotry
It’s a way for him to make himself feel superior: “oh I don’t do PARTY drugs”
What in the hell is wrong with Joe Rogan.
He's from Boston and he was hit in the head thousands of times when he was young.
Alpha brain
he swallowed to much Eddie Bravo
As someone who listened to rogans show back in 2012 and seen the whole evolution, basically he just used to fuck around and say anything for laughs. Eventually he had more serious guests and stopped joking with them, willing to hear anyone out who he felt deserved to be heard more than they were and be exposed to a different audience. You can see how this led him to the grifter pipeline, as well as becoming insanely rich from doing so (he was rich compared to normal people for a long time but on a whole new level since the first spotify deal). After covid and George Floyd riots and moving to texas he just became full blown radicalized by right wing nonsense. I was 14 years old back in 2012 and i will always have love in my heart for joe, I'm a fan of UFC and used to watch old fear factors with my mom. But it is sad to watch his decline. What's really crazy is that he was scheduled to get vaccinated for covid and didn't change his mind til johnson and johnson got pulled, and if he actually had the shot he probably would never have gotten this bad. I still don't think he has bad intentions but he feels he has no responsibility for how big his audience is and will continue to say and do whatever to appeal to his new audience that made him rich as fuck
He's just dumb and thinks he can "both sides" everything, when he's clearly one side.
He brings on "experts" generally discredited by their own peers.
He gets fact checked by his guy on the show *constantly* and just dismisses anything counter to what he was saying.
Like when a toddler is telling you a story and they keep interrupting themselves.
Why do people listen to him ffs.
THink of how unreasoned and delusional and devoid of critical thinking ability rogan is....now remember his audience is somehow worse at all of it. It's terrifying really.
"He's just like me, fr"...
You are literally listening to an alt left channel. Same with Joe. Neither are any more reputable than other. Just look at a mirror if you are still confused as to why.
Just MAGA Republicans listen to him.
The, "He says what I'm thinking!" woman comes to mind.
Cancel your Spotify account if you haven't already. I moved to Tidal two years ago, was able to import all my playlists and favorite tracks. It's also better for the artists. Don't give this man any money.
Is their artists library as expansive as Spotify? Same features? UI and UE okay? How about audio quality?
I may switch over, just don’t want to switch to something worse
Spotify needs to get sued
It would have to be outside the US. 1st amendment would protect them here. But maybe some Swedes suing Spotify in their home country of Sweden.
For saying "this is an interesting hypothesis".
Should cnn and every cable news show get sued for the 50+ years of misinformation also?
@@12time12 so what? That's like saying don't ban nazis from TH-cam because they'll go to storm front
@@darth_kal-el They have freedom of speech in Sweden as well, you know?
How do you contract HIV from snorting ketamine or taking an ecstasy pill? The "party drug" talk sounds like shit literal children would come up with
A lot of the denialists don't believe the virus exists, or don't believe the virus is harmful, the belief is that the victims' alleged lifestyle of drugs and gay sex destroys their immune systems and the finding of the virus is an incidental finding and not the cause of their condition.
Dr Susan Oliver tackles all of these anti vax grifters like Weinstein and Campbell with thorough scientific data based debunks on her youtube channel. Well worth a watch. She's the kind of guest Rogan would never interview.
THANK YOU! I'll post that to FB, too -- good stuff
Rogan will let any ol' kind of bull 💩 go down on his show.
There's no way, at this point, Spotify is a passive participant in all of the misinformation coming out in this show.
Inb4 Rogan invites former South African president Thabo Mbeki on to the show to discuss the health benefits of garlic and African potato
My issues with Faucci on AIDS was that he was touting a vaccine instead of promoting treatment drugs. This insistence delayed effective treatments for being developed. But he was sounding the alarms that it was a serious issue from the beginning while the Reagan administration looked at it as just a gay man issue and the religious right was ussing it as a propaganda tool against the gay lifestyle.
"Ounce of prevention worth a pound of cure."
Emma Vigeland wins the 'Best Main Host' category, in my opinion.
Her empathetic interview with the Canadian doctor discussing Gaza was raw and emotional and has to be one of the best interviews conducted by any journalist while covering Israel's latest massacre.
Is that why she's doing her "research" live on the show here?
@@clinton-xj7oewhat does that have to do with the interview this person is talking about? Stick to the subject and stop grasping for straws.
@@clinton-xj7oeimagine fact checking yourself to make sure you’re accurate rather than just guessing and looking like an ass later.
@@clinton-xj7oesuch a massive L to look something up
@@paulthomas4908 looking like an ass is what these people do every show.
Time to file this away under "things to show roganites when they pretend rogan is intelligent."
I'm just worried my Rogan listening friend is going to start spouting aids denial-ism next time I run into him.... It's bad enough he basically believes in Atlantis now because Rogan keeps having Graham Hancock on.
Seem like Joe Rogan gets even Dumber with each interview. At least when Aaron Rodgers was on he say he was the smartest person in the room.
It was probably the ivermectin mixed with covid. The combo has rotted the brains of the survivors.
my only question about rogan is how does a man who's never been in a real fight in his life get so concussed? he doesn't play football, he doesn't play hockey, he only "trains" at mma. how does such a man get so thick he should require a hockey helmet and minders to move from room to room?
He did compete in TKD at a reasonably high level. He's as dumb as a box of rocks though.
Joe was a state champion in Taekwondo and a BJJ black belt. He’s definitely been in fights. He said he stopped competing in taekwondo because he felt he had cognitive issues
...taking mushrooms he finds growing on bear dookie...cause that shit is CRAAAAZY!
I don't think he was that smart to begin with. But I'll defer to him on one subject only : fighting. Everything else better off asking a farm animal. Maybe fun to do drugs with but didn't stop him from loving cranky cranky cranks who make the 1950s look square
He stopped his fighting career at 21 because he was getting concussed as a child basically
Luc Montagnier's 2008 Nobel Prize was for research he, with others, carried out in the 1980s. However, by the time he got the prize, he had already gone off the deep end with research into homeopathy (aka magic water). More recently, he claimed to be able to record DNA in water with a microphone, sent it as an email attachment to another lab where they could reconstruct the DNA. His current ideas are truly insane.
I don't know about DNA in water but sending complex information as sound is old tech, that part is just something feasible (though unnecessary) that sounds new but isnt.
@@Silverfirefly1 Sending information is fine but there is no way that info can be turned back into DNA.
@@mddawson1 I meant that sound is just another way to transcribe data, it's just a medium for information. I have no idea about constructing DNA from any type of information.
It's like saying I converted my spreadsheet into light, and then someone took that light and made it into my spreadsheet, but really it was just a fibre optic cable.
@@Silverfirefly1
He is literally saying that DNA in water can be transcribed using a microphone. As in the sequence of the DNA in water is a tone sequence you can record!
@berjanbeen7188 I appreciate you saving me from having to look at his stuff directly. Sounds...ambitious. I once correctly deduced the dna of an animal, acoustically by being submerged in water (it was a whale).
I took a 2 day emergency management class from the guy who was Head Fire Chief of San Francisco during the 70's-80's and AIDS crisis. The stories he told were out of this world. If he had kept a journal it would have been a hit movie.
Even if there were some rare cases in the late 70', nobody knew what it was back then and the virus wasn't identified until 1983.
@@skunkjobb I know. I'm saying he was Fire Chief in the 70's through the 90's. And during the AIDS crisis.
A scientist who doesn't seem to understand how science works. Not medical science anyway. If the evidence was compelling medical science would be compelled by it.
AZT is a chemotherapy drug and has undergone many modifications since it first came on the market both as a cancer treatment and HIV treatment.
On the next episode of American Grifters, we'll discuss how aliens built the pyramids
Bret was a textbook progressive, and then as soon as they came after him in 2016 (perhaps, or certainly, in an OTT manner tbf) he just began tarnishing every tenet he once claimed to be a believer in. He was never convicted, he just believed in what was the norm at academia, now he has a new crowd and he's adopted their arrogant fringe beliefs.
They just like the idea of being smarter than the scientific mainstream, that's the appeal of conspiracy creeps, a feeling of intellectual superiority without having to actually put in any effort. Rogan and Weinstein are just so contemptible, ffs...
It's simply straight up narcissism, the number one predictor for believe in conspiracy theories.
Conspiracy theorists nowadays are all narcissists
@@dirkthewrenchalways have been.
You can't get people to buy snake oil if you don't think you and the snake oil are the shit.
Its amazing how OK America is with unreason and conspiracies.
Sadly it's not just a US problem, it's global
@@PerryUK
EVERY SINGLE conspiracy on earth.... Comes from the US of Murca. Its clearly a cultural issue.
I did 2 university degrees in the UK so I have been there long enough to have a British passport... There is plenty of populism and right-wing lunacy there too. But its different. Brits have something called shame, guilt, but also wit, subtleties, and charm. All of which seem non-existant in the US. This prevents Brits from ever going all-in and going extremist on things.
Also a British conservative is something very different from an American conservative.
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I'm highly skeptical of any evolutionary biologist who cites a book by RFK Jr., trashing Anthony Fauci, when discussing virology. That's more ridiculous than if Ron DeSantis wrote a book about Schwarzenegger's misunderstanding of body building, then having that nonsense promoted by a personal trainer. Even still, Joe Rogan would probably call that sh!t out immediately. I don't know what the hell happened to Rogan. He used to call himself an idiot all the time (very self-aware to the point of deprecation) and promote the need for evidence to back up wild claims. Then he slipped into conspiracy-land with his podcast and allowed the insane ramblings of a brain damaged UFC fighter to put him on the fence about the Moon landings. I remember his short-lived series about investigating UFO and paranormal claims, in which he accused a Skinwalker proponent of breaking his BS meter. Another time, he snapped on a UFO guy, and went on an angry rant about how all they have are claims. It's like he's not even the same person anymore. His brain is gone.
Homophobia is why they are saying this.
Amazing that Joe Rogan has all that money and can’t seem to get a true scientist to speak
Don't worry, I'm sure the 11,000 views for this video will help set the record straight.
Ask your doctor for the Kevorkian special
Now THAT is a dated joke! Are you going to tell me to put a rubber hose up my nose next?@@darth_kal-el
Now THAT is a dated joke! What's next, "Up your nose with a rubber hose"?@@darth_kal-el
Appeal to the majority is fallacious argumentation.
You're the only one saying that.@@TobiasC-mg4zk
This comment section is filled with future Nazi guards
Says the science denying Nazi.
Can't report it as misinformation on Spotify, there is no option available
Can we just accept that this is now primarily a Spotify problem? Joe Rogan was mostly little more than an innocuous edgelord, but thanks to his Spotify deal, he's an endless fountain of disinformation and misinformation. This is by design.
He was huge before the Spotify deal though. This widened his reach to be sure. But he wasn't as insignificant as you might think.
@@IshtarNikeThat just helps OP's argument. If he was already big before Spotify only made him bigger then they're just spreading his disinformation further.
Oddly, neither mention the millions in Africa who've died from AIDS without doing drugs.
AIDS is caused also by MALNUTRITION!! That is why AIDS was a known disease a lot earlier than HIV hypothesis. When one does not get nutrition (ingredients) that body needs for proper functioning, immune system disfunctions.
Can that be from malnutrition which resulted in lower immunity?
What’s weird with this anti covid vaccines stuff is if there was only one vaccine it would make sense but there were a number of them made. Which makes this theory make less sense
I really don't follow your logic here. How does one vaccine existing in anyway make any theory more or less likely? I guess tell me what theory your talking about first.
'Continously give out dangerous *and* inaccurate medical information.'
Well, Rogan...that's one way *to permanently reduce* your audience count. 🤔
Joe Rogan went from a bro to absolutely horrible person.
Just now?😂
Where've you been?
Joe Rogan still looks at a 10 dollar bill like Jon Stewart did in Half Baked
Woah man is that a guy in the bushes
🤣 Red team go!
How....? Why would you deny that of all things? This is absurd.
This is a good time to bring up the of Nobel syndome. Nobel laureates sometimes become cranks after winning their nobel prize. They become overconfident in their ideas and go down really stupid paths, and no one stops them becasue it's risky to do so.
It makes one wish an honour so important could be revoked, but I may be too reactionary here.
(though... it's not such a crazy idea?)
rogan is so irresponsible with his platform it's infuriating
The manufacturer of the aids drugs has know for decades about the damage they do and knows a less harmful substitute but was really slow to switch over it if they switched at all. John Oliver did a show on it about the time there was a class action lawsuit; maybe, I think…
throughout history, people tried to blame disease on the character or lifestyle of the sufferer. they did it with TB, leprosy, etc. turned out those were both bacterial infections 😄
Man, once I was talking about ancient egypt and a guy butted in and talked all about some dumb pseudohistory he heard on joe rogan instead. Its insane how people have a preference for complete lies
Put a picture of Fauci next to a picture of Rogan. Whose advice are you gonna take? Exactly.
lmao true
Who's advice am I going to take?
Well, presuming it's on a medical issue, I'm going to take the advice of the one who has a medical degree.
The one who has a medical degree?
Definitely wouldn't trust a thing Fauci says. BTW, Kary Mullis (Nobel prize winner), has called out Fauci many times, in no uncertain terms.
Rogaine just sucks.
I have to admit that human trials of drugs on people, and it’s onset is usually not great and the repercussions can be very sad but, there is no other way…
We can test on lab animals and theorize about stuff all day long but until case studies are completed and drugs are tested on human beings we will never know what works and what does not. As long as people are informed and understand that before they start these drugs, then it is perfectly permissible. The only stuff that is not OK is when people don’t know what they’re being exposed to.
The bleeding edge of medicine can look terrible, but that’s exactly how we’ve solved most the the very harmful diseases. Risk vs reward.
This guy’s a biologist. A biologist! Why is he relying on a Kennedy for hypotheses on viruses?
Just because he's a biologist, does not mean he is a *credited* biologist.
Science is peer to peer review, if you can't pass the peer review you get discredited. Your research needs to always be able to stand up to scrutiny.
Conspiracies prey upon belief systems not intelligence.
@@bazzfromthebackground3696 But he was a professor of biology right? I always thought he was a professor at a good university. Maybe I'm wrong.
Joe just can’t take that he was wrong about Covid 🤣🤣🤣
Party drugs is such a meaningless and vague term in this context
AIDS is caused also by MALNUTRITION!! That is why AIDS was a known disease a lot earlier than HIV hypothesis. When one does not get nutrition (ingredients) that body needs for proper functioning, immune system disfunctions.
I am so sick of psuedoscience.
don't tell me the evidence is compelling, show me the evidence brett.
You have to love that people always have these weird conspiracies about AIDS but they never actually bring up the fact that the medical community experimented on the predominantly homosexual Community using failed chemotherapy treatments that had nothing to do with actually treating the illness itself... some serious Tuskegee vibes...
Edit: Mind you the issue isn't that the drug itself was ineffective or not but rather the methodology by which doctors sought informed consent from the sufferers.
The reason why doctors were doing chemo was because they thought it was cancer. This is a well documented fact. They didn’t know what HIV or AIDS was. Gay men were coming in with cancer that had been caused by the HIV infection. Once they learned what it was chemo treatments were stopped. So maybe you should educate yourself on this issue before running the mouth.
@@darth_kal-elit was initially reported as a cancer that primarily affects gay people, but also called GRID - Gay Related Immune Deficiency
good breakdown @@darth_kal-el
@@darth_kal-elit’s not even they thought it was cancer, it 100% WAS cancer. HIV leads to people’s developing cancers. It’s pretty reasonable to therefore think you have to treat that cancer, until they figured out there was an underlying cause to the cancers.
As you said, this is medicine and history 101. Not even to the level of a conspiracy theorist. He’s just wrong.
@darth_kal-el reading comprehension not your strong suit? Why don't you go ahead and do a little more research about the process of informed consent and how many people were deceived back then. Were you even alive at the time?
It's easy for a non expert to spread lies about something they know little to nothing about. I trust the experts on virology and immunology.
When AIDS took Freddie Mercury, you'd have thought people would've taken it more seriously. It was taken people who were well beloved my many.
No. Even now, over 30 years later, misinformation and willful ignorance over the subject.
It's not just stupidity, these people actually want to deny the truth. They actually want to be against what is commonly known.
Spotify should be stripped of all music rights, they are not a worthy platform.
I was working in a record store then, and I did see a slow kind of change his death caused. When he died, a co-worker whispered that it may have been aids that killed him. Five years on, artists like George Michael & Michael Stipe are coming out; five years after that, same sex marriage as a topic becomes a mainstream issue. It's an agonizingly slow process that thugs on the right want to stop, but once the taboo's broken, they can't. It doesn't stop them from trying, though & a lot of people get hurt. I hope it doesn't take so long to enshrine & protect trans peoples rights.
EDIT - actually, there were other things going on at the time of his death, IE - Diana's amazing (like, amazing) ease with HIV patients. I'd forgotten about that -- I shouldn't have. Mathew Shepperd's murder shocked the US, too. Me, I live for music, so that's how I marked that era.
PS I had this mad crush on Michael Stipe -- rabid R.E.M. fan here, so I was hilariously pissed off.
@@1michelemichele1 Can still have a crush on gay people. Even if you're straight.
You didn't ramble at all -- the feedback I'm getting from posts I've made have really cheered me up. I'm usually quiet, it's a depressive thing.
The way the right's weaponized trans issues has indeed been about distraction - it's all they have, but it pisses me off that they picked the most vulnerable group of all. I moved to rural Ontario a few years ago, so one of my brothers delights in his right-wing Trumpism north, though much of it makes him cringe. I hope he looks at the picture of the kid who got killed in an Oklahoma bathroom and at the very least starts shutting down crap when he sees it. He's capable of that much (I, err, posted the pic on my wall. He used to be a single issuem [gun rights, sigh] conservative voter: time to return to that & ditch the crowd he's running with).
I can't believe I'm approaching (omg) sixty. I mean, not yet! but close, it's getting close. I still find new music to listen to, but I'm happy with the favourites I've loved since the 90s (cough, my most favourite: U2. Despite tax issues. Ugh. For all sorts of reasons that I won't go into because I'm talking enough as it is). My niecebeast & neighbours assure me that the music scene is, if anything, richer than it used to be.
The way musicians & writers & poets & ?actors? all kind of come together in ways that can be really beautiful. After 2016, historians started coming forward. Jon Stewart's back! I see regular peoples' voices on social media -- their wit & intelligence can be humbling, and even though it feels as if bona-fide fascists are gaining the upper hand, decent people outweigh the bad ones.
My depression tends to make me more rambly, often worried that I'm annoying people or upsetting them, so I feel a need to explain myself, then explain that, then talk incessantly XD.
You might like Tennessee Brando, he covers the Oklahoma non binary kid very well. There are also a lot of people on the left who are pro gun. I'm not, but I'm also not American, I live in Scotland. Guns just aren't a big thing around here. (Instead it's stabbings, sigh)
Sixty? It's time to start worrying about 70, all through my 20s I was worried about 30, and now that I am thirty, I'm worrying about 40. I imagine when I'm 40 I'll worry about 50. My mother used to listen to Queen and lot's of other classic rock. But she's moved on to stuff like Tyler Childers, Mike and the Moonpies (Who are apparently Silverada now, doesn't sound as good) and Willie Nelson. Some of it sounds pretty good, might be worth a look.
Most decent people are quiet. Nobody gets loud about something good happening. Bad news spreads incredibly fast. Negative people stand out. There are thousands of comments on videos talking in agreement. But the ones that stand out, are the angry ones. The ones that get responses, are hateful ones. Good stuff is harder to see. But it's far more numerous than negative stuff.
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This was crazy
I think that argument is preposterous but what would I know, I just have an MS in Biochemistry and Biophysics.
Joe Rogan is the epitome of American success for no good reason.....
How wrong you are.
this is the same energy as blaming george floyd for police murdering him because of his fentanyl tolerance being higher than a zero time user
the weird thing about this is, rogan had peter duesberg on the podcast many years ago, and its known as one of his most heated podcasts because he strongly disagreed with the guy and thought his logic was bad. crazy to just hear him accepting duesberg's research at face value when it comes from weinstien, a seeming 180 from his original position when he had the actual dude on his show
The woman who says her uncle died of aids . She needs to be more specific . She doesnt have a clue .
Joe Rogaine at it again. JFC why is dangerous idiocy so damned profitable?
As a South African, we're well aware of the consequences of HIV/AIDS denialism. In the late 1990s & early 2000s, the HIV/AIDS denialism of our then president, Thabo Mbeki, is estimated to have lead to between 300,000 to 350,000 preventable deaths because ARVs were only widely made available from 2006 (after he left office). Our latest HIV prevalence rates are still high at 12.7% (but were, in the past, even higher than that). It is still a devastating scourge in our country, but at least treatment is now widely available. I have a friend whose husband died of AIDS. She is HIV positive herself. Thankfully, she was able to start ART while pregnant with her son. She has still not progressed to AIDS and her beautiful (now teenage) son was born HIV negative thanks to the ART. Weinstein and Rogan are just hideous ghouls. Dr Susan Oliver just did a great video on this on her channel. It is well worth the watch.
Isnt heroin the opposite of a "party drug"?
Many other animals have similar viruses too. Cats that die of FIV are doing party drugs? Idiocy.
Yea it's almost like this clip has been edited to look like they are saying something they aren't.......oh wait, that's exactly what they did
@@jamescooke7243Please tell me the context that makes arguing for a causal relation between AIDs and party drugs make sense.
To be fair, I think the argument is that we don't know what causes hiv to trigger into aids. You need both the virus and the trigger, and back in the 90s I'd heard of some particularly young gays who died of aids relatively quickly after catching the virus, like within only a few years, maybe under 5. This is a virus that usually has a 10 year incubation period.
they must also not believe in cancer or chemotherapy
When Emma said weinstein is now a paid propagandist, What did she mean? Paid by whom?
Oh my God Brett can hardly talk....He's utterly lost in hyperbole, adverbs, and sophistry
Man I used to be an avid Joe Rogan listener. Covid completely broke that guy's brain. Dude can't go one episode without talking about trans people and covid it's absolutely insane.
AZT was in it's infancy just like morphine they didn't know how much to use it. Secondly AZT is still used in formula for the medications that save lives today.
Oh boy, he's like one step from falling into chemotherapy trutherism and he's dancing on a banana peel
Ryan White was a huge rave fan.
When two prime examples of the Dunning Kruger effect sit down for a conversation...
It really pisses me off how much money Spotify continues to throw at Rogan. I will never use their service.
Used to be a very regular paying subscriber to Spotify. Once I learned about their deal with Rogan, I canceled my subscription.
This isn’t meant to be engaged with seriously - it’s a thing to get people talking, controversy drives clicks, a grifter’s major currency. Joe Rogan is, as usual, an irresponsible fool with his platform.
It's twisted and infuriating that he does this garbage.
Over the last six years he has definitely become more and more crazy and irresponsible. I remember when he was a relatively harmless chucklehead. I don't understand how he got so huge and so unhinged.
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Well said, I think that's exactly the way they are looking at it as content. It's just a shame that people will buy into it so hard. I have a friend who is convinced about a bunch of bullshit theories about the end of the last ice age that he got from seeing Graham Hancock on Joe's show a bunch of times. I have a god damned M.S. in Geology and my thesis research was on the last deglacial period, but somehow he always ends up telling me I need to do more research if I disagree with him about it. It's infuriating, Hancock doesn't even give a damn about the subject, it's just something he's using as a stepping stone to prove Atlantis is real. But Joe wants to talk about it for clicks, so now my friend does too, by proxy.
As a man who unjustifiably thinks he can become serviceably knowledgeable about most subjects if given a week or less to learn about them, I am always blown away by just how much more egregiously confident Joe Rogan is than even myself. And then to impart all those overly confident ideas to an enormous audience? The audacity.
So true. And apparently if you give a guy a PhD it’s even worse! 🤦♂️
rogan is a 🤡
Joe Rogan accepting he has no medical degree challenge (impossible)