There need to be more testers - 100,000 is a small pool. My dad has done several tests up to the BigY over 10yrs ago and there are still only 3 close matches - who never replied to their message/email we sent. So NOT useful so far. And it seems you need to pay an additional fee to unlock some features.
I uploaded my autosomal DNA to FamilyTree. Seems impossible, but I match with no one. I ordered the Y DNA tests for my husband and BIL. I'm not confident we are going to come up with anything after listening to this. BTW: I paid the $19 to unlock the features. I'm not seeing anything I haven't seen before and I don't have any additional matches. So, I guess I'm not looking at this tool appropriately.
I couldn't catch the live show, but I have a question about Y-DNA. My brother (1 year younger than me) to the Y-111 test. Would I also need to take one or can I use his? I only did the Family Finder
I misremembered how many T2T SNPs we've discovered, sorry about that y'all! We've discovered 145 T2T SNPs (5000+ is the number for how many Ancient DNA connections we've added).
I am curious about a future replacement for Big Y700. The T2T reference genome is a different rabbit hole entirely. The Big Y700 test hasn't changed. It is just aligned against a different reference genome versus hg38. Similar to alignment against the hg19 reference genome. You did a good job of dodging that bullet. I know FTDNA has processed WGS 30x tests for Dante Labs on the same sequencer the Big Y700 tests are ran on. So, it's not an issue of having the ability to process a WGS. Price point? Well, it's common knowledge a WGS 30x test is available at $399, and a WGS 15x test at $359. These non-sale prices are more economical than the total cost Big Y700 (BAM file included), FGS of mtDNA, and a Family Finder (atDNA) test combined. So, when FTDNA offers a replacement test for Big Y700 (and you will eventually since the firm has progressed from Big Y to Big Y500, and finally Big Y700) will FTDNA be able to the currently stored DNA samples? This is an especially important issue regarding samples of deceased donors. Thank you!
@@johnross8939 While it's true that some companies are selling WGS for around the same price point as the Big Y-700, the cost of processing those tests and storing the data from them is higher, meaning the tests are being sold at a loss. Some companies choose to make up that cost by requiring subscriptions or selling the de-identified raw data to third parties. While I mean no disparagement to those companies, neither of those are options that FTDNA wants to consider. As the price of processing and storing the data comes down, WGS is something that we are looking at. Ideally, yes, you would be able to use a currently stored DNA sample for such an upgrade, depending, of course, on the quantity and quality of that stored sample; until this is researched more fully, I cannot say for certain that you would absolutely be able to use a stored sample, but FTDNA's purpose in providing biobanking to our customers at the start was to have those samples available for upgrades in the future, including for testers who have since passed away and whose accounts are managed by a beneficiary.
It depends on the situation. For example, if there was a man who had two wives who weren't related to each other and there is a mtDNA tester who descended from each wife, it can be very helpful in determining which wife it was. mtDNA is generally not helpful to fish for matches since there aren't as many people in the database as there are for autosomalDNA and it mutates infrequently.
How so? Apples vs Oranges? One is a company the other is a type of DNA, I dont understand why your saying this would you please explain, TY. BTW the FBI uses autosomal DNA to solve crimes, dont you think they would use a private company if that was the best & most complete technique?
@@lLeon44-g7j Let me re-phrase: The Y-DNA and mtDNA tests offered by FTDNA have the potential to break far more brick walls, which tend to be farther back in time. The reason is that matches can be traced to a single line, removing the multi-line uncertainty and time limitations associated with autosomal matches. If you are looking at high-shared cM match in the past few generations, then autosomal DNA is great. Not so much when trying to find another generation in the early 1700's.
The Swedish lines have projects based on location rather than surnames. Because, you are right, it's very difficult to have a surname project when their isn't a consistent surname!
I have a question about YDNA. There is a match in our surname project that at Y37 has a distance of 1 step from our test taker (cousin). Unfortunately this man has been deceased for about ten years, and at the time he only tested at the Y37 level. His son recently took a test at the Y111 level, and he matched his dad's test for all markers up to Y37, except these three, DYS459, DYS464, and CDY. He has null values (zero) for these three. Is this common, and what does this mean? My guess is that he would probably match his dad at these three markers, if there were a numerical value given. Shouldn't he also be reliable in using his results for us from Y38 to Y111, in addition to his dad'sY37 results? Would it be expected that he match his dad if his dad had been able to be tested at this level? We were hoping that this match at Y111 would confirm the lineage that we think is ours. We do have two Big-Y700 matches that also match at Y111 this individual, and descend from the same line.
All good questions. Yes, if son has null and the father has values, we can use the father's values to complete the profile. Best next step is to just upgrade the father's test, and not worry about the son's.
Well, I tried to have the father's original sample tested, but unfortunately, that was not possible. I will say this, that FTDNA is amazing in that one of our test subjects originally took the Y37 test years ago, then later expanded to Y111 and FF, and finally, Big-Y700, all with the same original sample taken in 2013. No retesting was necessary. We still have our brick-wall, but we now know the actual paternal lineage and location for our ancestor.
There need to be more testers - 100,000 is a small pool. My dad has done several tests up to the BigY over 10yrs ago and there are still only 3 close matches - who never replied to their message/email we sent. So NOT useful so far. And it seems you need to pay an additional fee to unlock some features.
I uploaded my autosomal DNA to FamilyTree. Seems impossible, but I match with no one. I ordered the Y DNA tests for my husband and BIL. I'm not confident we are going to come up with anything after listening to this. BTW: I paid the $19 to unlock the features. I'm not seeing anything I haven't seen before and I don't have any additional matches. So, I guess I'm not looking at this tool appropriately.
In Surname Group Projects FTDNA needs to add a grouping tool for the Administrator and Co-administrators
I couldn't catch the live show, but I have a question about Y-DNA. My brother (1 year younger than me) to the Y-111 test. Would I also need to take one or can I use his? I only did the Family Finder
No need to take on, you can use his.
@@YourDNAGuideThank you
I misremembered how many T2T SNPs we've discovered, sorry about that y'all! We've discovered 145 T2T SNPs (5000+ is the number for how many Ancient DNA connections we've added).
I am curious about a future replacement for Big Y700. The T2T reference genome is a different rabbit hole entirely. The Big Y700 test hasn't changed. It is just aligned against a different reference genome versus hg38. Similar to alignment against the hg19 reference genome. You did a good job of dodging that bullet.
I know FTDNA has processed WGS 30x tests for Dante Labs on the same sequencer the Big Y700 tests are ran on. So, it's not an issue of having the ability to process a WGS. Price point? Well, it's common knowledge a WGS 30x test is available at $399, and a WGS 15x test at $359. These non-sale prices are more economical than the total cost Big Y700 (BAM file included), FGS of mtDNA, and a Family Finder (atDNA) test combined.
So, when FTDNA offers a replacement test for Big Y700 (and you will eventually since the firm has progressed from Big Y to Big Y500, and finally Big Y700) will FTDNA be able to the currently stored DNA samples? This is an especially important issue regarding samples of deceased donors.
Thank you!
@@johnross8939 While it's true that some companies are selling WGS for around the same price point as the Big Y-700, the cost of processing those tests and storing the data from them is higher, meaning the tests are being sold at a loss. Some companies choose to make up that cost by requiring subscriptions or selling the de-identified raw data to third parties. While I mean no disparagement to those companies, neither of those are options that FTDNA wants to consider.
As the price of processing and storing the data comes down, WGS is something that we are looking at. Ideally, yes, you would be able to use a currently stored DNA sample for such an upgrade, depending, of course, on the quantity and quality of that stored sample; until this is researched more fully, I cannot say for certain that you would absolutely be able to use a stored sample, but FTDNA's purpose in providing biobanking to our customers at the start was to have those samples available for upgrades in the future, including for testers who have since passed away and whose accounts are managed by a beneficiary.
Do YOU or Katy offer DNA consultations where I could have a one-on-one? TY
Here at Your DNA Guide we offer coaching sessions. www.yourdnaguide.com/coach
Would you recommend an mtDNA test to find a 4X or 5X great-grandmother? Or are these ancestors too recent for the test results to be helpful?
It depends on the situation. For example, if there was a man who had two wives who weren't related to each other and there is a mtDNA tester who descended from each wife, it can be very helpful in determining which wife it was. mtDNA is generally not helpful to fish for matches since there aren't as many people in the database as there are for autosomalDNA and it mutates infrequently.
This is a great video - FTDNA Y and MT lineages will break far more brick walls than autosomal will ever do,.
Thank you!
How so? Apples vs Oranges? One is a company the other is a type of DNA, I dont understand why your saying this would you please explain, TY. BTW the FBI uses autosomal DNA to solve crimes, dont you think they would use a private company if that was the best & most complete technique?
@@lLeon44-g7j Let me re-phrase: The Y-DNA and mtDNA tests offered by FTDNA have the potential to break far more brick walls, which tend to be farther back in time. The reason is that matches can be traced to a single line, removing the multi-line uncertainty and time limitations associated with autosomal matches. If you are looking at high-shared cM match in the past few generations, then autosomal DNA is great. Not so much when trying to find another generation in the early 1700's.
TY 4 the clarification, now I understand.
@@PierreMullin
Unfortunately, I am not aware of any males in my maternal grandmother’s family…since 1904.
How do Swedes who used patronymics benefit from joining a group? Their last names changed every generation. Which surname do I join?
The Swedish lines have projects based on location rather than surnames. Because, you are right, it's very difficult to have a surname project when their isn't a consistent surname!
Hello, I can not find the tools you are talking about.
Are you talking about the YDNA test? You need to get a male in your family to take that test from FTDNA.
Thanks
I have a question about YDNA. There is a match in our surname project that at Y37 has a distance of 1 step from our test taker (cousin). Unfortunately this man has been deceased for about ten years, and at the time he only tested at the Y37 level. His son recently took a test at the Y111 level, and he matched his dad's test for all markers up to Y37, except these three, DYS459, DYS464, and CDY. He has null values (zero) for these three. Is this common, and what does this mean? My guess is that he would probably match his dad at these three markers, if there were a numerical value given. Shouldn't he also be reliable in using his results for us from Y38 to Y111, in addition to his dad'sY37 results? Would it be expected that he match his dad if his dad had been able to be tested at this level? We were hoping that this match at Y111 would confirm the lineage that we think is ours. We do have two Big-Y700 matches that also match at Y111 this individual, and descend from the same line.
All good questions.
Yes, if son has null and the father has values, we can use the father's values to complete the profile.
Best next step is to just upgrade the father's test, and not worry about the son's.
Well, I tried to have the father's original sample tested, but unfortunately, that was not possible. I will say this, that FTDNA is amazing in that one of our test subjects originally took the Y37 test years ago, then later expanded to Y111 and FF, and finally, Big-Y700, all with the same original sample taken in 2013. No retesting was necessary. We still have our brick-wall, but we now know the actual paternal lineage and location for our ancestor.
Thanks for sharing!.
Can I use my auntie as the best possible match
#2 what if I dont know the person but the cM and the predicted relationship show a 2nd cousin.
time to DO GENEALOGY! Time to look at shared locations or surnames in their tree and yours at the great grandparent level.