Notice at 13:26, the whites are completely blown out on the VX1. I thought it was a bug on my WXF1. It has the specs to properly handle that dynamic range, so there's no excuse why it's blowing out the whites, possibly fixable in a future firmware update I guess.
Panasonic could definitely make a version of the X1500 without the external controls and be much smeller. Too bad that it seams like companies aren’t wanting to make small consumer camcorders anymore. Same situation with super zoom point and shoot cameras. Would definitely be nice to see new consumer cameras that can shoot 10 bit 4K 60p videos.
It's already quite small, you can easily use it with one hand. One can only go so far in reducing size, they still have to house a zoom lens, the sensor, the internal ND and the computer. The external tactile controls are very useful, fumbling through menus is a pain in the ass in a lot of cameras.
Why does the CX10 looks darker than VX1 in this comparison? Does X1500 has IR night vision capability? I want night vision and mostly available in camcorder but one TH-camr say it doesn't have IR light build in and just can only detect it does it still make X1500 a good buy? Camcorder is nice because they have a lot build in, I not sure if this still a good buy since another TH-camr say it's not really good in manual because of the buttons are hard to press, might better buy an auto camcorder, is it really bad in manual mode?
I’d love to see more examples outside and different dynamic range situations. I have just bought the vx1 but not super happy with the quality (I’m used to shooting slog3 on 10bit a7siii) I know it’s a massive difference but how well does the hx1500 footage hold up to a pretty dramatic grade
I made another video comparing the footage from a Canon XF400 to a Canon CX10/X2000/X1500: th-cam.com/video/-9kC8sN15Hs/w-d-xo.html I wish Panasonic would add V-Log to the CX10/X2000/X1500 in a firmware update. Not being about to use Log is holding back the 422 10-Bit codec. The colors are great, but the dynamic range struggles when you heavily grade it or don't expose properly.
@@VideoGizmology thanks for the reply, yes I totally agree. Log profiles are essential capturing in 10bit. I wonder why they haven’t added it. Is there any other camcorder that shoots in 10bit with log that are small form factor and focal range similar to cx10? I loved my rx10iv for the form factor but the codec is only 8bit even though you can shoot slog3 on it. And the stabilisation is crap! I love the stabilisation on the vx1 which means I actually get the shot. If only Sony came out with a one inch or even 1/2.5 camcorder with af like their new cameras, stellar stabe, 10bit codecs 4k 60p, 240fps in 1080. I would pay good money for that! Why have companies given up on camcorders? I absolutely love the form factor
I'm assuming a 4K 422 10-Bit camcorder with Log for under $2500 is coming, but right now there is nothing capable of that for the price. You can get a mirrorless camera, like a Panasonic GH5, GH6, Sony A7IV, etc. And if you don't mind spending over $3500 for a camcorder, the Panasonic CX350, Panasonic HC-X2, Canon XF605, and JVC HC500U are the next price level up that can shoot 4K 422 10-Bit with Log.
The gain is connected to the Iris in Manual Mode MNL, so you must first be in that mode. You unfortunately cannot control both separately. How you enable the gain is simply opening up the Iris while you are in manual mode, the gain will automatically kick in. Then if you want the gain to go back to 0db, you must close the Iris down and you will see it the values decrease.
Is the VX1 the new version of the 981K model? I was told they use different chips. Is there much quality difference? Can't find the VX1 now, but a few places have the 981K. Would I be better to wait for new stock on the VX1? Any significant differences you've noticed?
Yes, I believe the VX1 is the update to the 981k, since the VX1 came out two years after the 981k was released. There are minor upgrades, so the image quality is not a big difference. But the lens is a significant upgrade on the VX1 if you like wide angle shots.
Are the VX1 and X1500 using the same sensors and lens? Is the extra money for the X1500 for mostly the pro level features and 4K 60p? Out of the box, would the image quality be the same for an amateur using them in good lighting?
They use the same sized sensor and lens, which doesn't mean they are the exact same, but they could be. The extra money for the X1500 is paying for a more professional body design, full manual control that is quick to access, superior 10-bit codecs, which no camera has at that price range, lots of picture controls, superior audio quality, and extra long battery life. An amateur will notice a quality difference between the VX1 and the X1500. These cameras are meant for different markets. If money is a concern for you, get the VX1. If higher picture and audio quality or ease of manual control are important to you, get the X1500.
Nice explanation, thank you. I was thinking of getting a VX1, but the x1500 is 10 bits and it tempts me. Will there be an entry-level 10-bit model in 2023? By the way, what is the file size of the recordings made with H264 and H265 codecs with the same image quality?
There will most likely not be a 10-bit mode on any Panasonic camcorder in 2023. The X1500 is what Panasonic wants you to buy if you want a low cost 10-bit camcorder. If you want 10-bit under $1K, you'll have to buy a used GH5 mirrorless camera. The file sizes are selectable on both cameras. The VX1 can go as high as 72Mbps and the X1500 can go as high as 200Mbps.
no I had to get a nornal light for mine cost just £25 but its an RGB light it makes it better I still want the sony 53x or what ever its called going to save up
Tough to say. If you work event video, like weddings, 10-bit with no LOG is better for a fast turnaround with vibrant colors. But if you're doing narrative, music video, or anything where you need more dynamic range and have the time to color grade, then 8-Bit with LOG could be good, but usually 8-Bit is not enough color information to take full advantage of LOG, so I would rather go 10-Bit with no LOG than 8-bit with LOG. The only exception is Canon. For some reason, Canon has been pretty good with 8-bit LOG footage from their cinema cameras like the C100 Mark II.
I had the same doubt, and I've just found out the my brand new VXF1 can be powered by an external powerbank connected through USB. I can't be happier.,my 10KW small pocketable powerbank can power my camcorder for about 5 hours!
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Notice at 13:26, the whites are completely blown out on the VX1. I thought it was a bug on my WXF1. It has the specs to properly handle that dynamic range, so there's no excuse why it's blowing out the whites, possibly fixable in a future firmware update I guess.
Panasonic could definitely make a version of the X1500 without the external controls and be much smeller. Too bad that it seams like companies aren’t wanting to make small consumer camcorders anymore. Same situation with super zoom point and shoot cameras. Would definitely be nice to see new consumer cameras that can shoot 10 bit 4K 60p videos.
X1500 with smaller form factor and a 1 inch sensor that could do 10 bit 4k 60p with the same level of optical zoom as the x1500 would be perfection.
It's already quite small, you can easily use it with one hand. One can only go so far in reducing size, they still have to house a zoom lens, the sensor, the internal ND and the computer. The external tactile controls are very useful, fumbling through menus is a pain in the ass in a lot of cameras.
Agree totally
Yes, that is the camera I want but does not exist
i dont get why cell phones can do 4k60 and these cant
I was dissapointed with the "tearing"(?)/refresh ratewhen panning in 4K. Did you find that on your VX1?
Why does the CX10 looks darker than VX1 in this comparison? Does X1500 has IR night vision capability? I want night vision and mostly available in camcorder but one TH-camr say it doesn't have IR light build in and just can only detect it does it still make X1500 a good buy? Camcorder is nice because they have a lot build in, I not sure if this still a good buy since another TH-camr say it's not really good in manual because of the buttons are hard to press, might better buy an auto camcorder, is it really bad in manual mode?
I’d love to see more examples outside and different dynamic range situations. I have just bought the vx1 but not super happy with the quality (I’m used to shooting slog3 on 10bit a7siii) I know it’s a massive difference but how well does the hx1500 footage hold up to a pretty dramatic grade
I made another video comparing the footage from a Canon XF400 to a Canon CX10/X2000/X1500: th-cam.com/video/-9kC8sN15Hs/w-d-xo.html
I wish Panasonic would add V-Log to the CX10/X2000/X1500 in a firmware update. Not being about to use Log is holding back the 422 10-Bit codec. The colors are great, but the dynamic range struggles when you heavily grade it or don't expose properly.
@@VideoGizmology thanks for the reply, yes I totally agree. Log profiles are essential capturing in 10bit. I wonder why they haven’t added it. Is there any other camcorder that shoots in 10bit with log that are small form factor and focal range similar to cx10? I loved my rx10iv for the form factor but the codec is only 8bit even though you can shoot slog3 on it. And the stabilisation is crap! I love the stabilisation on the vx1 which means I actually get the shot. If only Sony came out with a one inch or even 1/2.5 camcorder with af like their new cameras, stellar stabe, 10bit codecs 4k 60p, 240fps in 1080. I would pay good money for that! Why have companies given up on camcorders? I absolutely love the form factor
I'm assuming a 4K 422 10-Bit camcorder with Log for under $2500 is coming, but right now there is nothing capable of that for the price. You can get a mirrorless camera, like a Panasonic GH5, GH6, Sony A7IV, etc. And if you don't mind spending over $3500 for a camcorder, the Panasonic CX350, Panasonic HC-X2, Canon XF605, and JVC HC500U are the next price level up that can shoot 4K 422 10-Bit with Log.
What camera did you use to record this video? It was focus-hunting like hell.
How do you change gain on the VX1? I have a WXF1 and wonder if it's the same, since I didn't even know you could do that.
The gain is connected to the Iris in Manual Mode MNL, so you must first be in that mode. You unfortunately cannot control both separately. How you enable the gain is simply opening up the Iris while you are in manual mode, the gain will automatically kick in. Then if you want the gain to go back to 0db, you must close the Iris down and you will see it the values decrease.
@VideoGizmology Thanks!
hi , are there any video glasses on the market like for the drones which you can connect to camer with cable ? even this model doesn't have viewfinder
Does this camera have a pause and restart feature during video shooting? I just bought this camera and could not find this feature. hc-vx1
Is the VX1 the new version of the 981K model? I was told they use different chips. Is there much quality difference? Can't find the VX1 now, but a few places have the 981K. Would I be better to wait for new stock on the VX1? Any significant differences you've noticed?
Yes, I believe the VX1 is the update to the 981k, since the VX1 came out two years after the 981k was released. There are minor upgrades, so the image quality is not a big difference. But the lens is a significant upgrade on the VX1 if you like wide angle shots.
Has someone used for streaming and would you recommend it for it?
I moved video on videocamera #Panasonic HC-WFX1 👍 . Good camera
Are the VX1 and X1500 using the same sensors and lens? Is the extra money for the X1500 for mostly the pro level features and 4K 60p? Out of the box, would the image quality be the same for an amateur using them in good lighting?
They use the same sized sensor and lens, which doesn't mean they are the exact same, but they could be. The extra money for the X1500 is paying for a more professional body design, full manual control that is quick to access, superior 10-bit codecs, which no camera has at that price range, lots of picture controls, superior audio quality, and extra long battery life.
An amateur will notice a quality difference between the VX1 and the X1500. These cameras are meant for different markets. If money is a concern for you, get the VX1. If higher picture and audio quality or ease of manual control are important to you, get the X1500.
@@VideoGizmology @stevenrostron6671 dont forget built in livestreaming.
Thnks alot for the video, is this cam water residents? And what kind of SD card you recommended please help me out 🙏🏼
No, these cameras are not water resistant. I recommend Sandisk V90 cards or Sony SF-M/T2 UHS-II SDXC cards.
Nice explanation, thank you. I was thinking of getting a VX1, but the x1500 is 10 bits and it tempts me. Will there be an entry-level 10-bit model in 2023? By the way, what is the file size of the recordings made with H264 and H265 codecs with the same image quality?
There will most likely not be a 10-bit mode on any Panasonic camcorder in 2023. The X1500 is what Panasonic wants you to buy if you want a low cost 10-bit camcorder. If you want 10-bit under $1K, you'll have to buy a used GH5 mirrorless camera.
The file sizes are selectable on both cameras. The VX1 can go as high as 72Mbps and the X1500 can go as high as 200Mbps.
Sad, but I think you're right re cheaper 10-bit.
👍🏼👍🏼 great info!
Does the VX1 have night vision and would you recommend the VX1 or is there anything better in the same price range?
no I had to get a nornal light for mine cost just £25 but its an RGB light it makes it better I still want the sony 53x or what ever its called going to save up
Does the 10-Bit of the X1500, without LOG, make it the better cam than Sony AX700 8-Bit with LOG?
Tough to say. If you work event video, like weddings, 10-bit with no LOG is better for a fast turnaround with vibrant colors. But if you're doing narrative, music video, or anything where you need more dynamic range and have the time to color grade, then 8-Bit with LOG could be good, but usually 8-Bit is not enough color information to take full advantage of LOG, so I would rather go 10-Bit with no LOG than 8-bit with LOG. The only exception is Canon. For some reason, Canon has been pretty good with 8-bit LOG footage from their cinema cameras like the C100 Mark II.
Panasonic HC-WXF991K vs Panasonic HC-VX1 ?
5:51 The Sony AX53 has excellently smart and brilliant exposure control, just learn how to use AE Shift along with AGC Limiter.
hello do you know if the vx1 records in 1080p 60fps? i am seeing some sources say 60fps and some saying 50fps
Yes, the VX1 records 1080/60p.
For long battery use, which one, FDR AX43 or VX1(?)
I had the same doubt, and I've just found out the my brand new VXF1 can be powered by an external powerbank connected through USB. I can't be happier.,my 10KW small pocketable powerbank can power my camcorder for about 5 hours!
So, the VX1 is mini version from CX10/X1500/X2000?
No, it is not. You might be able to match the cameras under specific conditions, but that's about it.
hi does the VX1 has IR mode?
VidGiz syrikes again!
Love the Kettle Bell in the background. I recommend Mark Wildman. Thanks for the video.
Why is your audio distorted?
I bet we're hearing his voice from both cameras at around 12:45, the extra volume overdriving the sound in the left channel.
Yes, that was annoying, and hopefully not indicative of the sound quality of the VX1/WCFX1.
epic usefull video
thanks!
that dog tweakin bruh
VX1 is garbage
Oh
Please explain why? Thanks
The last frame is taken from different angles, so the comparison is not correct