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@@jrmichel1975I only use Kirkland pellets if I'm doing a large bulk bbq party. Throwing on chicken that you're going to sauce heavily, dogs, burgers are well worth for the Kirkland brand versus using up Knotty Wood pellets
I've done a fair bit of research on pellet smokers, and the LoneStarGrillz one seems to be in a league of its own. I need to rebuild my deck before I consider buying another smoker though.
Better bark and smoke flavor on pellet grill tip: I use a Dutch oven style loaf pan (cast iron) in the smoker with a couple charcoal briquets and chunks.
Been rocking my Pit Boss outside, uncovered in Southeast Texas for 4 years now and it hasn’t skipped a beat. It’s got some weathering, but it’s still going strong. 🤘
I wouldn't leave a Pellet grill if any make uncovered outside for even a season here. Talked to people in South Florida, and the same is true. Leaving it outside, uncovered in a humid climes is bad news.
Man.... I feel like people here are just not good at following instructions... Watched about 5 hours of youtube content on smoking a brisket. Bought a $350 Z grill 7002F Pellet Grill. Bought $13 bag of Costco wood pellets. Bought a $68 17.25 lb choice brisket from Costco. Made my own rub. Trimmed brisket like the videos, but left a bit more fat and meat on. Covered it in olive oil and then put on the rub. Stuck the 2 internal probes into the point and flat of the brisket. Smoked it at 180 for 2 hours, 225 for 12 hours, wrapped it in butcher paper the next morning at around 165-173 internal , and finished to 203 at 275 degrees. Turned out better than a lot of bbq places here in Seattle and almost as good as the Texas BBQ place. (they're not as good as the places in Texas, but close and still good)
Glad to see this video about pellet grills, but what happened to the other pellet grill video? Had some great info in that last video, would you please put it back up for reference material?
Lonestargrillz out of Willis, TX American made. They are experimenting with 50/50 pellet and wood chips. They have the chips on their site. I tried HEB chips and it jammed. LoneStar chips did not.
Been using a pit boss Austin Xl for years. Works great but lots of upkeep. It's time for an update and my budget is less extremely tight so I pulled the trigger on The LSG pellet. Just waiting on delivery. Really excited. Definitely going to try the wood chips the have. I would love to see a review of it by Jeremy.
@brandondprice You are going to LOVE the LSG! I've had mine for about 9 months now and it's amazing how much smoke it puts out for the entire cook. I haven't tried their new wood chips yet, but I'm going to order some before I do my next brisket. It was hard waiting so long for it to arrive after ordering it, but my 20x42 pellet has been absolutely worth every penny. Congrats man! P.S. - Jeremy please do a review on the LSG 20x42 pellet smoker 🙏
@jeffpuffenbarger6800 i agree. I was on the waiting list when they first came out. Around 300. It took 6 or 7 months. I use it all the time. Lots of smoke during the whole cook. I'm glad LSG is trying to add more smoke flavor.
As someone considering getting a smoker, this video is tremendous. Lots of opinions out there ( see comments😂) but delving into the things to look out for really helps. Did not know about bark filler in pellets for example.
Ignore the comments. I have everything from electric to offset, and they all make good BBQ. In the end it's not the pit, it's me that's doin' the cookin'.
Those are good tips. If I could add one thing to the pellets and cost. Once what I'm cooking has hit the max smoke like he was referring to. Instead of using cheaper pellets I know finish my meats in the oven. And when it is finishing I use that time to clean out my smoker. Win Win
The elevation with a barrier tip is money. Instead of using a water pan under mine, i throw in the fat trimmings in a pan. I have a shelf with the brisket above that. The fat makes a liquid tallow I store in jars afterward and it prevents that burning on the bottom
Two things I have done to make flavor as close to my old offset, put the meat on the smoker before turning it on to get that blast of startup smoke, and a blend of pellets and wood chips in a pellet tube for the first few hours.
@MadScientistBBQ I agree that a stick burning offset will always beat a pellet grill, but I wonder why you never have mentioned or tested Recteq, which is the brand that i use at home. Specifically I use the Recteq 700 and have their smoke box attached to it. I smoke briskets in the smoke box on the super smoke setting and rotate it as I see necessary to get smoke into the meat. Then I turn up the temp and move the brisket into the main chamber to start rendering fat before wrapping. The whole time I'll have wagyu beef tallow smoking in a foil tub like I've watched you do in you're videos that i put on before wrapping 😉 My friends and family love it, but I'd love to get your opinion on it. Id send you a pic of the set up if i had a way to
My Grilla Chimp likes Knotty Wood (except for a jam once) and that’s usually my go-to. Will work on doing brisket there, since it’s really hard to beat a Weber Kettle with oak chunk no wrap brisket!
for more smoke, smoke daddy inc makes a heat deflector that you can burn wood chunks or splits in. also with how thick it is it really helps even out temps across the grates.
I just got my country smoker table top today. I’m in the process of doing the preliminary burn off before my first time of grilling a steak. Only 6 minutes to go before I start the pellet grill to start cooking my First meal!
Great video! Where do you guys rate Bear Mountain pellets? I feel l get good results using them but would like the opinion of an expert. I also like knotty wood very much but definitely a bit pricey.
Lonestargrillz pellet smoker - hands down the best pellet smoker. That thing actually smokes! And you can mix wood chips with the pellets (safe to get lonestar woodchips, not just any. They do need to be a certain size)
Cookshack is the only pellet cooker with a offset airflow. Gives better flavor by not re burning old debris that people won’t scrape every time they fire up the grill. Be careful to not get a pan to close to your cook because it will upset the smoke rolling around the meats. That will lessen the flavor your trying to produce.
Traeger and GMG is what I use.. I use my Traeger more then my GMG I bought the GMG cuz we’re a dealer and had a heck of a deal. Dirty smoke is more obvious on the GMG.. main thing is using QUALITY PELLETS AND CLEAN UR DANG SMOKERS AFTER!
That is hilarious what he said about the GMG Jim Bowie I have the same grill and it failed with my first catering gig while I was sleep ruined 6 pork butts lesson learned for sure. Thanks for the content.
I use to be a die hard fan on solely going offset side....now that I'm a foster parent I understand why pellet smokers exist. I love the set it and forget it on these things.
@@armandoa5468 Exactly. I don't have the time to babysit 10-12+ hour cooks anymore. You get 80-90% of the smoke flavor for minimal effort. That's good enough for me nowadays.
My age finally caught up with me so i went from my wood burner to a OJ's Rider DLX 1200 a couple weeks ago. I started BBQing when internet was dial-up. As mentioned in the video, I see a lot of internet pellet BBQ advice trying gimmicks to overcome perceived pellet grill shortcomings. As noted in the video this is indeed a bit of a misdirection. I include wrapping and the forever lingering 321 on ribs as a gimmick as well. Master your pit first whether wood burner or pellet is my best advice.
Ive been a big fan of the heavy d smoke diffuser by smoke daddy to add smoke flavor. Use about a 3x3x6 piece of wood on each side so you get some real hardwood flavor.
First of all Jeremy, I love your channel. I've learned ALOT from watching you. My question is, why wasn't the RecTec RT-700 pellet grill mentioned in this video? I own one & would welcome any/all suggestions for a better cook on it! BTW, VERY informative video on pellet grills! 👍🙂
I have a Camp Chef smoker (not the one with the wood box), and even though they both have used Camp Chef, they never reference them or their pellets (even though if you google the best pellet smokers Camp Chef are always listed). I've had mine now for almost 10 years and have had ZERO issues with it.
He can't sell RecTec in his store so there is no benefit to him talking about them. You can use his suggestions with any pellet grill it's not brand exclusive.
Using the right pellets like lumberjack or cookin pellets will help but really I've pretended like I just bought one on the RT700 group and said I can't tell the difference between pellet flavors and asked others could and a lot of people said they couldn't. A smoke tube will help, just not too close to the meat because it is just dirty smoke so at least 3" away. Other than that, I've tried and tried on my pellet grill, smoked out half the city with it a few times experimenting but I couldn't really get what I was looking for but I had fun experimenting
Thanks! I always look forward to your feed. I’m new at the pellet grill game and trust you and your guests. I have watched so many stick burners videos and it translates to a certain degree. Thanks again from Hawaii
Jeremy awesome content as always, watched your video on the best method for doing brisket on a pellet grill a few months ago and was gonna go back and check it out again for a refresher but can't find it. Was it taken down?
Best advice for a pellet smoker user is to dial temperature down by about 50 degrees when you open it, otherwise it will think its a temp drop and start scorching pellets like crazy and might choke. Once you close put the dial back where it was.
Did a follow up vid ever drop to this? Great Content - but I am a believer in starting low. I have a Traeger and my best brisket flat cook was injected and rubbed with Salt & Pepper & Lawry's. Cooked over night starting at 180°F. At 9:00 AM it had an IT of ~170°F and was feeling and looking ready so I wrapped it in the foil boat with another splash of my injection and bumped the Traeger to 250°F. It was done (IT of 205°F) ~ 11:00 AM. So I just put it in a cold oven to hold it until dinner. PERFECT. Next I need to try wrapping in butcher paper. I Agree: Change one thing at a time !!! PS: I have tried smoke tubes, but not to much success.
I wrote this as a reply to a question but wanted to share with everyone. I have had an Austin XL for over 4 years and after going through several brands( they all worked) the ones that consistently give the best flavor are Lumberjack. They are 100% of the tree, bark and all as mentioned in the video and unless they are a blend they are 100% of the flavored tree. So 100% Apple is just that! Same with all of their other 100% flavors. Hickory, Oak, Pecan, Cherry, Mesquite, etc. Don't be fooled by other brands that will put 100% "Hardwood" on the bag and then put Apple as the flavor. If you see that, which is about 85 % of the brands out there, you are getting a pellet that is about 70% filler(usually alder) and 30% of the flavored wood or wood infused with flavored oils. Traeger sells their 20lb bag of "Apple" or "Cherry" or even "Hickory"pellets for $20 a bag and although they say Naturally Flavored do not contain any part of that tree for the flavor. Why pay for "Flavored" wood when you can buy the real thing for (Lumberjack) for $8.99 a bag.?
I went to watch your pellet grill brisket video the other day and you made it private, was there a reason for that? I mostly wanted to check the temps you foil boated at.
I have had an Austin XL for over 4 years and after going through several brands( they all worked) the ones that consistently give the best flavor are Lumberjack. They are 100% of the tree, bark and all as mentioned in the video and unless they are a blend they are 100% of the flavored tree. So 100% Apple is just that same with all of their other 100% flavors. Don't be fooled by other brands that will put 100% "Hardwood" on the bag and then put Apple as the flavor. If you see that, which is about 85 % of the brands out there, you are getting a pellet that is about 70% filler(usually alder) and 30% of the flavored wood or wood infused with flavored oils. Traeger sells their 20lb bag of "Apple" or "Cherry" or even "Hickory"pellets for $20 a bag and although they say Naturally Flavored do not contain any part of that tree for the flavor. Why pay for "Flavored" wood when you can buy the real thing for (Lumberjack) for $8.99 a bag.?
Great tips enjoyed the video. Only issue was knotty wood they are the only pellets i had to throw away because ended up what looked like chunks of plastic in my firebox.
The one pellet I never hear mentioned, neither good nor bad, is Bear Mountain. I've seen a couple of videos that tested Bear Mountain and found them to be a top level performer. The fact that I can buy them locally (Tractor Supply at least used to have them, and Lowes carries hem) is a big draw for me. Anyone tried them and can compare them to Lumberjack or Knotty Wood?
I am currently using Bear Mountain, bought from Lowe's, due to Dick's Sporting Goods no longer carrying the Lumberjack line. I think Bear Mountain is perfectly fine. I did like the Lumberjack fruit pellets much more though. I wish I had access to Lumberjack locally again. So until I find something else better, Bear Mountain will do.
I appreciate having the information for those of use with pellet smokers. Thought I would love to get good at a stick burner it's just not practical at this point in my life so pellets is it. Looking at pulling the trigger on a Yoder since they're made just up the road from me. I love that you can direct grill with it to sear steaks, etc. That's a huge plus.
I recently got my 1st pellet smoker, a Camp Chef Dlx 24. It works great and produces a better product than my old Charbroil 725 electric chip burner. My issue seems to be it doesn't seem to be very efficient. In my old Charbroil it would take forever because even though I set it at the max 275, it was actually only cooking at around 245-255. The pellet smoker is much better in that aspect but still takes a long time to get the meat to where it needs to be. I did a 9lb pork butt last weekend and i did the low and slow overnight method. Started at 190 and then turned it up to 225 when i woke up. I eventually had to set it yo 250 to get it to finish and it took about 15 hours to get it to temp and for it to probe tender. I dont open it up to check the meat a lot so not sure if the heat is escaping or if its just too low of a initial temp setting. Going to try it higher next time and see what happens.
Make sure you're cleaning it out after a few cooks, and using quality pellets. I had similar problems, cleaned out the grill and switched to Knotty Wood pellets and haven't had problems since.
I smoke my pork shoulders for about 7 hours at 225. Then I wrap it in foil and place it in my oven at 350 until the internal temp is 205. Turns out great and I don’t waste pellets on something that won’t take anymore smoke.
I have a camp chef and I don't bother going lower then 225 with the smoke set at 10. I let it run as long as it takes until I get the bark/color I want, and then wrap if in a hurry. Sometimes I've done a hot and fast at 275 and left it unwrapped for the whole cook and did it in 6 hours. My opinion, never go below 200/225, they just seem to work best in that range for low, and around 275 for the highest.
Hey everyone, new to pellet smokers -- first cook I'm seeing the bark start to split on my ribs, that's new to me. Little cracks where the meat pokes through. Tips?
Doing my first brisket in my new Woodwind Pro 24 right now, smoke setting 5 but i added pecan chunks every 45 minutes for first three hours (started at 11pm going 12 hours) but i had to get some zzzs.
I've got a stick burner and pellet grill. I've had tremendous success with Kingsford grillmasters blend. Better than trager or pit boss pellets and my pellet grill is a pit boss. I would recommend Kingsford over anything on the middle tier. Top tier obviously those pellets speak for themselves if you have used them. Try out some Kingsford pellets and let me know what you think.
What about pellet grill heat blankets? I’ve noticed better heat retention but does it affect the over all result negatively not burning more pellets to achieve that smoke?
In my opinion and that's all I have. I've tried many different pellets and Tragger sucks. I noticed if I left them in my bin very long they turned to sawdust that disappointed me. I switched to lumberjack and I'm very happy with those I can leave unused pellets in there for an indefinite period of time and they stay very Compact and solid.
Why is it that there is no rumor sites about upcoming new models for smokers like there is for just about every other product? I’m interested in the WWPro but wondering whether anyone else is going to introduce a “Smoke Box” type feature. Anyone know of such a resource?
Hi I enjoy your videos. Please help me locate a couple you have mentioned In this video you mentioned a follow up on his recommendations on pellet grills In another video you mentioned TH-cam video tricks people have used Please help me find these. Thanks and enjoy the day
Help! Had the weirdest thing happen on the Woodwind Pro, about 3 hours in I started getting off smells, like gasoline. Can't figure it out, wood in firebox smells good, I thought some burning foil I put in maybe but it kept going. I had to abort and pull brisket out and vacuum, the culprit seems to be something in the burn pot, mixed with the pellets. Any ideas? Anyone experience this?
@@terrylrice4597 and what I'm saying is what you're asking for is already out there. Also, you think he's going to waste his time doing videos that are rudimentary, that's going backwards. What you're asking for doesn't make sense. Geez!😂
@@BabyDiego10599 do you even own a charcoal grill? There’s a shit ton of different ways you can use it, a bunch of different kinds of charcoal you can use and many different kinds of charcoal grills out there. From what I’ve seen he’s touched on more of the basic proponents of charcoal grilling, probably cuz that’s not in his wheelhouse of expertise. But if I were interested in expanding my Chanel I’d appreciate whatever feedback about this kind of thing so he can each out to a much broader audience.
@@terrylrice4597 yes, I have a drum smoker, an offset AND a kettle grill. I would consider myself an advanced cooker when it comes to smoking meats I've been grilling since I was 8 yrs old, SO I think I'm very qualified to tell you that even though I get what you're asking, Jeremy isn't about to cover those basics again as he's already done that, if you look back on his older videos. There's already so much content in every category, his expertise is strictly stick burners on professional level smokers. I just think what you're asking is not going to happen, on his channel, PERIOD!
@MadScientistBBQ I have been using cooking pellets for awhile now and like them. But they recently changed the length of the pellets. they are super short now and I have noticed that it fills the ash pot faster. If i remeber right you at one point said longer pellets are better and usually better quality, correct?
We need a comparison on taste between briskets on a pellet grill. One on a consistent temperature throughout. The second one start on a super smoke mode for the first 2 hours or so then raise it. Blind taste on which one is better.
I'm just curious... why isn't RecTeq mentioned in any of your pellet smoker reviews Jeremy? Does Eric have any experience with that brand? He's seems more familiar with the Big Box brands... just sayin....
@MadScientistBBQ, I would like your opinion, and science take on this… (BBQ purists will DIE reading this) I live at high elevation and BBQ meats will dry out quick, even with a water bath in the smoker. So I have experimented (successfully) with using smoked talo from my last cook and sous vide. I will start with a 134F sous vide for 36-48hrs and finish the cook for bark and flavor on the Pellet Grill. I have found (and this could be coincidence) that if I take my meats out of the sous vide and go straight to the fridge overnight, then put the meat on the grill for the smoke COLD, I get a better bark and better/deeper smoke. This method is holding the moisture in my briskets and beef ribs better than “Goldie Methods.”. Is there decent science to explain this?
After much thought and research I’d go gravity feed and avoid pellets. I think less to no problems and you get darn near the same taste as offset, more reliable set it and forget it than a pellet with absolutely no jamming or auger problems .
I’m about to buy a new smoker and I’m probably going to go with the Workhorse 1975. I know it’s been a year or so since you’ve made your review, so would you point towards another offset or do you still recommend the 1975?
You should ask backyard warrior what he thinks of his Workhorse but it all comes down to preference and budget. I always ask him questions and always get a response from him.
@Trblmkr07 I bump temps by 25 increments. Once I'm happy with the bark, I'll bump to 250 and drop smoke to 5. Then after I wrap, 275 and 1 (unless I'm smoking something else along with it, then I'll stay at 5).
been running my Traeger made the best brisket yet. Used a smoke tube 200 over night then a 165 hold worked great. The super smoke is pointless all you get is a ash filled smoke pot
Don't use T brand pellets if you are getting ash caking in fire pot. I can run through 80-100 lbs or about one year without cleaning when using other brands compared to sometimes half a bag with T brand.
Over here in Australia the Pellets are insanely EXPENSIVE!(9kg/$35) I mean I did a Brisket for 10hrs on my Traeger the other day & used about 7kg! Admittedly it is Winter here & I did bump it up after I wrapped it to get it done but geez! 🙄
My question is why is RecTeq never mentioned of used in your pellet grill videos. Is there something about RecTeq y'all don't like, or is it he doesn't sell them so he doesn't talk about them?
He's definitely only talking about product he sells. This is an infomercial at heart. I love my recteq and I would put it up against any of these other pellet grills mentioned. The cook, quality of food and their service are excellent.
I bought my GMG Bowie from BBQHQ about two years ago. It would not work. I called BBQHQ for help. Still waiting for their response! When it comes to GMG after calling a few times , what they did they sent some parts and were telling me how to replace. I am not specialist on those smokers nor I am an electrician. I had to get help from a friend. And then I found out nearest repair shop is is in San Diego two hours drive at list. I found out Traeger has a lot better service and many recipes online by famous Pitmasters. Yes that is my own experience with GMG and unfortunately BBQHQ which I purchased a lot more stuff including grills.
The best way I've found so far to get good smoke flavor is to start off my cooks on my big green egg with hickory and then after the first 3 hours switch to my pellet smoker to get the amazing bark. The timberline creates awesome offset smoker bark that my big green egg struggled with.
Damn it! My basic Camp Chef that has actually served me very well over the years is reaching the point that it needs to be replaced. I watched that whole video to be told to watch the next one. 😂😂😂
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Hey Jeremy, have you ever tried the Kirkland premium blend pellets from Costco? On the price alone, they seem like a great value!
Hey MadScientistBBQ, are there ways to prevent Heterocyclic Amines from occuring when grilling meats? Or do you consider this Not a thing?
@@jrmichel1975I only use Kirkland pellets if I'm doing a large bulk bbq party. Throwing on chicken that you're going to sauce heavily, dogs, burgers are well worth for the Kirkland brand versus using up Knotty Wood pellets
I do not see the second episode of this video. This was insanely helpful!
I've done a fair bit of research on pellet smokers, and the LoneStarGrillz one seems to be in a league of its own. I need to rebuild my deck before I consider buying another smoker though.
Better bark and smoke flavor on pellet grill tip:
I use a Dutch oven style loaf pan (cast iron) in the smoker with a couple charcoal briquets and chunks.
Been rocking my Pit Boss outside, uncovered in Southeast Texas for 4 years now and it hasn’t skipped a beat. It’s got some weathering, but it’s still going strong. 🤘
I wouldn't leave a Pellet grill if any make uncovered outside for even a season here. Talked to people in South Florida, and the same is true. Leaving it outside, uncovered in a humid climes is bad news.
Good to know since I just got the Pit Boss’s Country Smokers. Portable wood pellet grill today and am conducting the burn off before my first grill
When will part 2 become available??
Man.... I feel like people here are just not good at following instructions...
Watched about 5 hours of youtube content on smoking a brisket.
Bought a $350 Z grill 7002F Pellet Grill.
Bought $13 bag of Costco wood pellets.
Bought a $68 17.25 lb choice brisket from Costco.
Made my own rub.
Trimmed brisket like the videos, but left a bit more fat and meat on.
Covered it in olive oil and then put on the rub.
Stuck the 2 internal probes into the point and flat of the brisket.
Smoked it at 180 for 2 hours, 225 for 12 hours, wrapped it in butcher paper the next morning at around 165-173 internal , and finished to 203 at 275 degrees.
Turned out better than a lot of bbq places here in Seattle and almost as good as the Texas BBQ place. (they're not as good as the places in Texas, but close and still good)
Glad to see this video about pellet grills, but what happened to the other pellet grill video? Had some great info in that last video, would you please put it back up for reference material?
Lonestargrillz out of Willis, TX American made. They are experimenting with 50/50 pellet and wood chips. They have the chips on their site. I tried HEB chips and it jammed. LoneStar chips did not.
Been using a pit boss Austin Xl for years. Works great but lots of upkeep. It's time for an update and my budget is less extremely tight so I pulled the trigger on The LSG pellet. Just waiting on delivery. Really excited. Definitely going to try the wood chips the have. I would love to see a review of it by Jeremy.
Also lonestargrillz makes custom pellet smokers hence why they started to there own pellet brand.
Doesn’t camp chef already have that option?
@brandondprice You are going to LOVE the LSG! I've had mine for about 9 months now and it's amazing how much smoke it puts out for the entire cook. I haven't tried their new wood chips yet, but I'm going to order some before I do my next brisket. It was hard waiting so long for it to arrive after ordering it, but my 20x42 pellet has been absolutely worth every penny. Congrats man! P.S. - Jeremy please do a review on the LSG 20x42 pellet smoker 🙏
@jeffpuffenbarger6800 i agree. I was on the waiting list when they first came out. Around 300. It took 6 or 7 months. I use it all the time. Lots of smoke during the whole cook. I'm glad LSG is trying to add more smoke flavor.
As someone considering getting a smoker, this video is tremendous. Lots of opinions out there ( see comments😂) but delving into the things to look out for really helps. Did not know about bark filler in pellets for example.
Ignore the comments. I have everything from electric to offset, and they all make good BBQ. In the end it's not the pit, it's me that's doin' the cookin'.
Those are good tips. If I could add one thing to the pellets and cost. Once what I'm cooking has hit the max smoke like he was referring to. Instead of using cheaper pellets I know finish my meats in the oven. And when it is finishing I use that time to clean out my smoker. Win Win
The elevation with a barrier tip is money. Instead of using a water pan under mine, i throw in the fat trimmings in a pan. I have a shelf with the brisket above that. The fat makes a liquid tallow I store in jars afterward and it prevents that burning on the bottom
Two things I have done to make flavor as close to my old offset, put the meat on the smoker before turning it on to get that blast of startup smoke, and a blend of pellets and wood chips in a pellet tube for the first few hours.
…also, I have found that when I put the meat on COLD (both the grill and the meat), a deeper smoke ring and flavor is imparted.
@@pecanrx agree
@MadScientistBBQ I agree that a stick burning offset will always beat a pellet grill, but I wonder why you never have mentioned or tested Recteq, which is the brand that i use at home. Specifically I use the Recteq 700 and have their smoke box attached to it. I smoke briskets in the smoke box on the super smoke setting and rotate it as I see necessary to get smoke into the meat. Then I turn up the temp and move the brisket into the main chamber to start rendering fat before wrapping. The whole time I'll have wagyu beef tallow smoking in a foil tub like I've watched you do in you're videos that i put on before wrapping 😉 My friends and family love it, but I'd love to get your opinion on it. Id send you a pic of the set up if i had a way to
My Grilla Chimp likes Knotty Wood (except for a jam once) and that’s usually my go-to. Will work on doing brisket there, since it’s really hard to beat a Weber Kettle with oak chunk no wrap brisket!
I will add another thumbs up for Knotty Wood pellets. Their new Cabernet infused Almond is to die for!
for more smoke, smoke daddy inc makes a heat deflector that you can burn wood chunks or splits in. also with how thick it is it really helps even out temps across the grates.
Have you tried it?
@@All2Skitzd yea I run it in my pellet grill every time I use it.
Been wanting to grab one for dad. Now I can watch this and help him out
I just got my country smoker table top today. I’m in the process of doing the preliminary burn off before my first time of grilling a steak. Only 6 minutes to go before I start the pellet grill to start cooking my First meal!
I have learned to cook at lower temperatures for longer, before you bump temps up. My Yoder does great cooks.
Thank you for the videos.
Great video! Where do you guys rate Bear Mountain pellets? I feel l get good results using them but would like the opinion of an expert. I also like knotty wood very much but definitely a bit pricey.
Lonestargrillz pellet smoker - hands down the best pellet smoker. That thing actually smokes! And you can mix wood chips with the pellets (safe to get lonestar woodchips, not just any. They do need to be a certain size)
Absolutely! Loving my LSG every week 😊
Cookshack is the only pellet cooker with a offset airflow. Gives better flavor by not re burning old debris that people won’t scrape every time they fire up the grill. Be careful to not get a pan to close to your cook because it will upset the smoke rolling around the meats. That will lessen the flavor your trying to produce.
Lone Star Grillz is built like an offset.
Traeger and GMG is what I use.. I use my Traeger more then my GMG I bought the GMG cuz we’re a dealer and had a heck of a deal. Dirty smoke is more obvious on the GMG.. main thing is using QUALITY PELLETS AND CLEAN UR DANG SMOKERS AFTER!
It took several cooks to figure out how best to smoke a brisket on my pellet grill and adding a smoke tube but I got it tuned in pretty good.
That is hilarious what he said about the GMG Jim Bowie I have the same grill and it failed with my first catering gig while I was sleep ruined 6 pork butts lesson learned for sure. Thanks for the content.
My brothers in christ. I just got a brand new Cuisinart Oakmont pellet grill for $350CAD - so hyped 🎉
You need to do a LSG pellet smoker review! Try it with pellets only and with their recommended blend of pellets and chips.
When are we getting the follow on for pellet grill recommendations? Or did I miss it?
Please do a review on a MAK 2 Star General!!
I ran knottywood on my rec TEC bullseye and wasn't really happy with it, the flavor seemed off. It worked fine on my Weber smokefire.
So glad to see you coming over to the pellet side.
I use to be a die hard fan on solely going offset side....now that I'm a foster parent I understand why pellet smokers exist. I love the set it and forget it on these things.
@@armandoa5468 Exactly. I don't have the time to babysit 10-12+ hour cooks anymore. You get 80-90% of the smoke flavor for minimal effort. That's good enough for me nowadays.
My age finally caught up with me so i went from my wood burner to a OJ's Rider DLX 1200 a couple weeks ago. I started BBQing when internet was dial-up. As mentioned in the video, I see a lot of internet pellet BBQ advice trying gimmicks to overcome perceived pellet grill shortcomings. As noted in the video this is indeed a bit of a misdirection. I include wrapping and the forever lingering 321 on ribs as a gimmick as well. Master your pit first whether wood burner or pellet is my best advice.
Ive been a big fan of the heavy d smoke diffuser by smoke daddy to add smoke flavor. Use about a 3x3x6 piece of wood on each side so you get some real hardwood flavor.
My GMG is a champ. Best smoker for the money IMO. Got it on sale and it had a rotisserie and I got a pizza oven for it.
I would love to see you review the Lone Star Grillz pellet smoker. The 36 or 42.
First of all Jeremy, I love your channel. I've learned ALOT from watching you. My question is, why wasn't the RecTec RT-700 pellet grill mentioned in this video? I own one & would welcome any/all suggestions for a better cook on it!
BTW, VERY informative video on pellet grills! 👍🙂
I have an RT-700. It’s great. Never had an issue. Cook on it sometimes 5 times in a week. Was wondering the same thing.
I have a Camp Chef smoker (not the one with the wood box), and even though they both have used Camp Chef, they never reference them or their pellets (even though if you google the best pellet smokers Camp Chef are always listed). I've had mine now for almost 10 years and have had ZERO issues with it.
He can't sell RecTec in his store so there is no benefit to him talking about them. You can use his suggestions with any pellet grill it's not brand exclusive.
I have a Rec-Tec 1250 and have had no issues over the many cooks I have done on it but I only use high quality pellets
Using the right pellets like lumberjack or cookin pellets will help but really I've pretended like I just bought one on the RT700 group and said I can't tell the difference between pellet flavors and asked others could and a lot of people said they couldn't.
A smoke tube will help, just not too close to the meat because it is just dirty smoke so at least 3" away. Other than that, I've tried and tried on my pellet grill, smoked out half the city with it a few times experimenting but I couldn't really get what I was looking for but I had fun experimenting
Thanks! I always look forward to your feed. I’m new at the pellet grill game and trust you and your guests. I have watched so many stick burners videos and it translates to a certain degree. Thanks again from Hawaii
Jeremy awesome content as always, watched your video on the best method for doing brisket on a pellet grill a few months ago and was gonna go back and check it out again for a refresher but can't find it. Was it taken down?
Best advice for a pellet smoker user is to dial temperature down by about 50 degrees when you open it, otherwise it will think its a temp drop and start scorching pellets like crazy and might choke. Once you close put the dial back where it was.
Did a follow up vid ever drop to this? Great Content - but I am a believer in starting low. I have a Traeger and my best brisket flat cook was injected and rubbed with Salt & Pepper & Lawry's. Cooked over night starting at 180°F. At 9:00 AM it had an IT of ~170°F and was feeling and looking ready so I wrapped it in the foil boat with another splash of my injection and bumped the Traeger to 250°F. It was done (IT of 205°F) ~ 11:00 AM. So I just put it in a cold oven to hold it until dinner. PERFECT. Next I need to try wrapping in butcher paper. I Agree: Change one thing at a time !!! PS: I have tried smoke tubes, but not to much success.
I wrote this as a reply to a question but wanted to share with everyone. I have had an Austin XL for over 4 years and after going through several brands( they all worked) the ones that consistently give the best flavor are Lumberjack. They are 100% of the tree, bark and all as mentioned in the video and unless they are a blend they are 100% of the flavored tree. So 100% Apple is just that! Same with all of their other 100% flavors. Hickory, Oak, Pecan, Cherry, Mesquite, etc. Don't be fooled by other brands that will put 100% "Hardwood" on the bag and then put Apple as the flavor. If you see that, which is about 85 % of the brands out there, you are getting a pellet that is about 70% filler(usually alder) and 30% of the flavored wood or wood infused with flavored oils. Traeger sells their 20lb bag of "Apple" or "Cherry" or even "Hickory"pellets for $20 a bag and although they say Naturally Flavored do not contain any part of that tree for the flavor. Why pay for "Flavored" wood when you can buy the real thing for (Lumberjack) for $8.99 a bag.?
Where are you getting Lumberjack for that price? Best I can find is $15
Will you ever do an in-depth review and/or cook-off using a Lone Star Grillz pellet smoker?
I went to watch your pellet grill brisket video the other day and you made it private, was there a reason for that? I mostly wanted to check the temps you foil boated at.
Jeremy! Please do a review video for the Goldees bbq smoker.
Thanks for the tips, just purchased a pellet grill
Thanks for the info. Will the Pitboss take different pellets ?
I have had an Austin XL for over 4 years and after going through several brands( they all worked) the ones that consistently give the best flavor are Lumberjack. They are 100% of the tree, bark and all as mentioned in the video and unless they are a blend they are 100% of the flavored tree. So 100% Apple is just that same with all of their other 100% flavors. Don't be fooled by other brands that will put 100% "Hardwood" on the bag and then put Apple as the flavor. If you see that, which is about 85 % of the brands out there, you are getting a pellet that is about 70% filler(usually alder) and 30% of the flavored wood or wood infused with flavored oils. Traeger sells their 20lb bag of "Apple" or "Cherry" or even "Hickory"pellets for $20 a bag and although they say Naturally Flavored do not contain any part of that tree for the flavor. Why pay for "Flavored" wood when you can buy the real thing for (Lumberjack) for $8.99 a bag.?
Appreciate that Kenny, going to get some Lumberjack Thanks have great day
Great tips enjoyed the video. Only issue was knotty wood they are the only pellets i had to throw away because ended up what looked like chunks of plastic in my firebox.
It's resin from the tree.
Lone star grillz pellet grill for the win!
I wish I could afford one of them...they started to make their own pellets as well.
For brisket, i like to smoke with crushed walnut shell, it is amazing !
I want to see you cook on a Lone Star Grillz pellet smoker.
How do I find service on my pellet grill in Texas? Follow-up with the manufacturer? Are you familiar with any service personnel in Texas?
The one pellet I never hear mentioned, neither good nor bad, is Bear Mountain. I've seen a couple of videos that tested Bear Mountain and found them to be a top level performer. The fact that I can buy them locally (Tractor Supply at least used to have them, and Lowes carries hem) is a big draw for me. Anyone tried them and can compare them to Lumberjack or Knotty Wood?
I use Bear Mountain. I cannot tell a difference in quality between them and Lumberjack. And I can find Bear Mountain much more easily where I am.
I am currently using Bear Mountain, bought from Lowe's, due to Dick's Sporting Goods no longer carrying the Lumberjack line. I think Bear Mountain is perfectly fine. I did like the Lumberjack fruit pellets much more though. I wish I had access to Lumberjack locally again. So until I find something else better, Bear Mountain will do.
Jeremy, can you please ask Eric what he thinks of Rec Teq?
^this
I appreciate having the information for those of use with pellet smokers. Thought I would love to get good at a stick burner it's just not practical at this point in my life so pellets is it. Looking at pulling the trigger on a Yoder since they're made just up the road from me. I love that you can direct grill with it to sear steaks, etc. That's a huge plus.
I recently got my 1st pellet smoker, a Camp Chef Dlx 24. It works great and produces a better product than my old Charbroil 725 electric chip burner. My issue seems to be it doesn't seem to be very efficient. In my old Charbroil it would take forever because even though I set it at the max 275, it was actually only cooking at around 245-255. The pellet smoker is much better in that aspect but still takes a long time to get the meat to where it needs to be. I did a 9lb pork butt last weekend and i did the low and slow overnight method. Started at 190 and then turned it up to 225 when i woke up. I eventually had to set it yo 250 to get it to finish and it took about 15 hours to get it to temp and for it to probe tender. I dont open it up to check the meat a lot so not sure if the heat is escaping or if its just too low of a initial temp setting. Going to try it higher next time and see what happens.
Make sure you're cleaning it out after a few cooks, and using quality pellets. I had similar problems, cleaned out the grill and switched to Knotty Wood pellets and haven't had problems since.
I smoke my pork shoulders for about 7 hours at 225. Then I wrap it in foil and place it in my oven at 350 until the internal temp is 205. Turns out great and I don’t waste pellets on something that won’t take anymore smoke.
I have the same smoker. I do my pork butts at 225, then bump it up to 250-275 once it's wrapped.
I have a camp chef and I don't bother going lower then 225 with the smoke set at 10. I let it run as long as it takes until I get the bark/color I want, and then wrap if in a hurry. Sometimes I've done a hot and fast at 275 and left it unwrapped for the whole cook and did it in 6 hours. My opinion, never go below 200/225, they just seem to work best in that range for low, and around 275 for the highest.
Hey everyone, new to pellet smokers -- first cook I'm seeing the bark start to split on my ribs, that's new to me. Little cracks where the meat pokes through. Tips?
How about generic Costco brand pellets? Any good? PS what smoke level should you set for a brisket on a Woodwind Pro?
Doing my first brisket in my new Woodwind Pro 24 right now, smoke setting 5 but i added pecan chunks every 45 minutes for first three hours (started at 11pm going 12 hours) but i had to get some zzzs.
I've got a stick burner and pellet grill. I've had tremendous success with Kingsford grillmasters blend. Better than trager or pit boss pellets and my pellet grill is a pit boss. I would recommend Kingsford over anything on the middle tier. Top tier obviously those pellets speak for themselves if you have used them. Try out some Kingsford pellets and let me know what you think.
Dagnamit, I was enjoying the video and you cut it for a second one!!! 😂 When will the next video drop?
What about pellet grill heat blankets? I’ve noticed better heat retention but does it affect the over all result negatively not burning more pellets to achieve that smoke?
What's ya'lls opinion on Bear Mountain pellets?
Would be interested in your thoughts on the Goldees offset smoker design.
I see that lone Star Grillz is recommending to mix 50/50 pellets and chips for a better smoke flavor. Have you tried this?
In my opinion and that's all I have. I've tried many different pellets and Tragger sucks. I noticed if I left them in my bin very long they turned to sawdust that disappointed me. I switched to lumberjack and I'm very happy with those I can leave unused pellets in there for an indefinite period of time and they stay very Compact and solid.
Awesome vid,gents! New Camp Chef owner. Thanks!
Why is it that there is no rumor sites about upcoming new models for smokers like there is for just about every other product? I’m interested in the WWPro but wondering whether anyone else is going to introduce a “Smoke Box” type feature. Anyone know of such a resource?
Suprised you havent tried a makgrill pellet grill. The 3 star general . Holds teml amazing teml but can also grill at 375.
Hi I enjoy your videos. Please help me locate a couple you have mentioned
In this video you mentioned a follow up on his recommendations on pellet grills
In another video you mentioned TH-cam video tricks people have used
Please help me find these. Thanks and enjoy the day
Love the information, I would have liked some short videos during this explanation that shows examples of what you're talking about, just a thought.
Help! Had the weirdest thing happen on the Woodwind Pro, about 3 hours in I started getting off smells, like gasoline. Can't figure it out, wood in firebox smells good, I thought some burning foil I put in maybe but it kept going. I had to abort and pull brisket out and vacuum, the culprit seems to be something in the burn pot, mixed with the pellets. Any ideas? Anyone experience this?
Would the Traeger Timberline 1300 be a worthwhile consideration for $1,700 or is this at a point where an American made product be considered?
You need to do more charcoal kettle vids. Weber specifically. Please and thank you.
Ya, well Jeremy is way past that, so you may want to do a search for kettle vids, they're out there, trust me.
@@BabyDiego10599 I didn’t say he hasn’t, I just said he should do more. I haven’t seen one in a while. That’s what I’m saying.
@@terrylrice4597 and what I'm saying is what you're asking for is already out there. Also, you think he's going to waste his time doing videos that are rudimentary, that's going backwards. What you're asking for doesn't make sense. Geez!😂
@@BabyDiego10599 do you even own a charcoal grill? There’s a shit ton of different ways you can use it, a bunch of different kinds of charcoal you can use and many different kinds of charcoal grills out there. From what I’ve seen he’s touched on more of the basic proponents of charcoal grilling, probably cuz that’s not in his wheelhouse of expertise. But if I were interested in expanding my Chanel I’d appreciate whatever feedback about this kind of thing so he can each out to a much broader audience.
@@terrylrice4597 yes, I have a drum smoker, an offset AND a kettle grill. I would consider myself an advanced cooker when it comes to smoking meats I've been grilling since I was 8 yrs old, SO I think I'm very qualified to tell you that even though I get what you're asking, Jeremy isn't about to cover those basics again as he's already done that, if you look back on his older videos. There's already so much content in every category, his expertise is strictly stick burners on professional level smokers. I just think what you're asking is not going to happen, on his channel, PERIOD!
Very good information. Thanks for doing this video. I will certainly change the way I’m cooking with my pellet grill
@MadScientistBBQ I have been using cooking pellets for awhile now and like them. But they recently changed the length of the pellets. they are super short now and I have noticed that it fills the ash pot faster. If i remeber right you at one point said longer pellets are better and usually better quality, correct?
Longer pellets can cause auger jams in certain brands, actually.
You should get a pellet pro 2300 or double D smoker from Smoke Daddy and review it
We need a comparison on taste between briskets on a pellet grill. One on a consistent temperature throughout. The second one start on a super smoke mode for the first 2 hours or so then raise it. Blind taste on which one is better.
I'm just curious... why isn't RecTeq mentioned in any of your pellet smoker reviews Jeremy? Does Eric have any experience with that brand? He's seems more familiar with the Big Box brands... just sayin....
Try giving B&B competition blend or smokehouse post oak pellets a try. I really like them better then lumberjack and bear mountain.
@MadScientistBBQ, I would like your opinion, and science take on this…
(BBQ purists will DIE reading this) I live at high elevation and BBQ meats will dry out quick, even with a water bath in the smoker. So I have experimented (successfully) with using smoked talo from my last cook and sous vide. I will start with a 134F sous vide for 36-48hrs and finish the cook for bark and flavor on the Pellet Grill. I have found (and this could be coincidence) that if I take my meats out of the sous vide and go straight to the fridge overnight, then put the meat on the grill for the smoke COLD, I get a better bark and better/deeper smoke. This method is holding the moisture in my briskets and beef ribs better than “Goldie Methods.”. Is there decent science to explain this?
I'm going to do pork butts this week and try a hack I thought of to mix some liquid smoke with my mustard binder to kick the smoke flavor up.
Did the liquid smoke make any difference?
What causes smoke to come out from the hopper and how to avoid it?
Where can I find pt 2 ?
Are there ways to prevent Heterocyclic Amines from occuring when grilling meats?
After much thought and research I’d go gravity feed and avoid pellets. I think less to no problems and you get darn near the same taste as offset, more reliable set it and forget it than a pellet with absolutely no jamming or auger problems .
Hi can birch be used for smoking?
Why no mention of Bear Mountain? Most reviewers give their pellets high reviews...
ive been going with Costco pellets lol 40lbs for $15 and turns out great
I’m about to buy a new smoker and I’m probably going to go with the Workhorse 1975. I know it’s been a year or so since you’ve made your review, so would you point towards another offset or do you still recommend the 1975?
You should ask backyard warrior what he thinks of his Workhorse but it all comes down to preference and budget. I always ask him questions and always get a response from him.
@@armandoa5468 alright thanks
I prefer chicken wings for the "biscuit test."
I always run the Camp Chef 8 or higher. But then, I never smoke
I run mine at 225 at 10 smoke as well, only once I wrap in foil, do I drop the smoke down to 1 just to even out the temp swings.
@Trblmkr07 I bump temps by 25 increments. Once I'm happy with the bark, I'll bump to 250 and drop smoke to 5. Then after I wrap, 275 and 1 (unless I'm smoking something else along with it, then I'll stay at 5).
been running my Traeger made the best brisket yet. Used a smoke tube 200 over night then a 165 hold worked great. The super smoke is pointless all you get is a ash filled smoke pot
Don't use T brand pellets if you are getting ash caking in fire pot. I can run through 80-100 lbs or about one year without cleaning when using other brands compared to sometimes half a bag with T brand.
Over here in Australia the Pellets are insanely EXPENSIVE!(9kg/$35) I mean I did a Brisket for 10hrs on my Traeger the other day & used about 7kg! Admittedly it is Winter here & I did bump it up after I wrapped it to get it done but geez! 🙄
Y do ya'll never talk about Recteq? They make an amazing pellet smoker.
I know you don’t really cook on Kamados but a video on tips would be cool for something diff
My pit boss Austin xl has done me a great job
My question is why is RecTeq never mentioned of used in your pellet grill videos. Is there something about RecTeq y'all don't like, or is it he doesn't sell them so he doesn't talk about them?
Bc they don’t sell them, recteq sells directly. Saves money.
Love my RecTek has been great
He's definitely only talking about product he sells. This is an infomercial at heart. I love my recteq and I would put it up against any of these other pellet grills mentioned. The cook, quality of food and their service are excellent.
I have had a Rec Teq for 3 years and it is great.
Great questions!
I bought my GMG Bowie from BBQHQ about two years ago. It would not work. I called BBQHQ for help. Still waiting for their response! When it comes to GMG after calling a few times , what they did they sent some parts and were telling me how to replace. I am not specialist on those smokers nor I am an electrician. I had to get help from a friend. And then I found out nearest repair shop is is in San Diego two hours drive at list. I found out Traeger has a lot better service and many recipes online by famous Pitmasters.
Yes that is my own experience with GMG and unfortunately BBQHQ which I purchased a lot more stuff including grills.
please ask Eric about the Lone Starz pellet
The best way I've found so far to get good smoke flavor is to start off my cooks on my big green egg with hickory and then after the first 3 hours switch to my pellet smoker to get the amazing bark. The timberline creates awesome offset smoker bark that my big green egg struggled with.
Damn it! My basic Camp Chef that has actually served me very well over the years is reaching the point that it needs to be replaced. I watched that whole video to be told to watch the next one. 😂😂😂
Easy. Camp Chef Woodwind Pro closes you'll get to offset bark and smoke flavor
@@ZeusMerk Agreed, that'll be my next one as well. Pellet convenience and wood chunks for flavor.