Good, simple info here! We are in the Northeast, so local alfalfa is hard to come by. We feed local timothy/orchard hay, but it is deficient in a few things, this is where hay testing can come in handy. So, I do supplement with 5-6lbs of alfalfa pellets per day to add in some calories and protein! Other than that-a ration balancer and some Vitamin E & Omegas (W3 Oil).
Alfalfa hay is good for a horse's gut as the pH is higher and neutralizes excess acid in the stomach which can cause ulcers. Horses also need browse available due to their nature as grazing animals, whether pasture or grass hay. My horses do better with a quality feed that had chelated minerals, all necessary amino acids, correctly balanced omegas and low sugar. I can feed the same feed to all including my PPID horse due to the low sugar -starch ratio. It has NO corn, which is poorly tolerated in horses and leads to choke, impaction and colic and an imbalanced omega source that leads to inflammation. Even their winter coats are super shiny and they have fast growing manes and tails plus healthy hooves. The horses don't get "hot" but do feel good and only one gets fat because he steals food from others, so he gets more riding.
There is no sugar in beet pulp it has been extracted before and in fact it is a great food for young horses for putting on weight. You are giving misleading info. People need to speak to professionals and have them design a diet specifically for each individual horse.
That simply isn't true about the beet pulp. Perhaps some brands...I do agree the professional should be spoken to but buyer beware, its the easiest thing in the world to get a degree in equine nutrition and it doesn't mean you know what you are talking about.
@@HorsemanshipAsAnArt sorry your wrong Sugar Beet Pulp goes through a process of extraction and some cases extrudation The sugar is extracted leaving pulp and fibre. It is sold as "low sugar" simply because of marketing as people assume it is high sugar. Having a degree in Equine Science Nutrition is valid and there is little point in you trying to devalue it. People on hear need to consult experts on horse nutrition if they are wanting valuable advice on feeding horses whether young, old, sick, completion, and breed related. A one size fits all is not helpful.
@@HorsemanshipAsAnArt it is wholy true it goes through a process to extrude sugar. Belittling people who have solid knowledge in Equine Nutrition and have studied it is rather childish. The low sugar brands generally have molasses added and that is why it is called "low sugar". Over ninety eight percent of natural sugar is extruded which is referred to as sugar free. This is done as the minimal amount of sugar that is left behind are simple sugars as opposed to additives which are complex sugars and have to be labelled for regulation purposes. Yes it is useful to soak alfalfa or any dry grass if a horse is not drinking enough water.
@@loredelore7286 I did not belittle anyone I just said you were wrong. Natural sugar or added sugar from molasses; it doesn't matter to me its to much sugar. I understand the difference between simple and complex sugars and I would rather not have my horses on either of them if I can help it. Soaking your hay for a horse that doesn't drink enough? Thats a last resort. Its better to teach them to drink.
I'll take Timothy hay, half out of the boot, clean water, trace mineralized salt, and an occasional flake of alfalfa. And, yes, most horses are over supplemented.
Good presentation. Side note: l seem to think a fat horse may developed a thick crest which can lead to a navicular situation. I think thats what happened to the neighbors horse. Without Xrays its a guess. To address numerous buck offs he was experiencing, he asked me to ride the fresh off the rather large chunk. It was my opinion that over weight in regard to the behavior issues was the result of over feeding, so I told him the horse was probably lame, and that it was something Xray would relieve. He wouldn't believe me. I never proved my point, nor did l need to. l was happy to let it go. There's so many horses to work with, and l had other business to attend to. Thanks for sharing.
I like hot horses so it's a non issue for me. My logic might not work for the pack string. I feed alfalfa in the morning , oat hay at lunch (yes the grain hay might juice them up) and alfalfa at night. They enjoy the change of feed at noon. I like to keep them grazing all day even though they are in a corral. Zero supplements. Fat and muscled is my favorite color. Never any colic or founder issues. If you have an issue with alfalfa it's probably cuz you can't ride and you and your horse need more training. I've heard that first cutting is for dairy cows, second cutting is best for good horses and third cutting is for trail nags. Feeling old and awnry today.
my horses are fat just from their pasture..and no I definitely dont ride them enough...no grain added and no supplements - if I Ever fees in the winter it's a low starch hay replacer grain..I gave my mustang alfalfa hay and he about couldn't stand still - he was ready to jump at any second..in fact he would start to go then just stop (at that point all we could do is halter and brush him..and I'd get on the mounting block and band his mane - not cause I really cared to band his mane but it was more just to have him get used to seeing me up there above his head for when riding time came).
Good, simple info here! We are in the Northeast, so local alfalfa is hard to come by. We feed local timothy/orchard hay, but it is deficient in a few things, this is where hay testing can come in handy. So, I do supplement with 5-6lbs of alfalfa pellets per day to add in some calories and protein! Other than that-a ration balancer and some Vitamin E & Omegas (W3 Oil).
Im not against supplements but people take it to far.
Alfalfa hay is good for a horse's gut as the pH is higher and neutralizes excess acid in the stomach which can cause ulcers. Horses also need browse available due to their nature as grazing animals, whether pasture or grass hay. My horses do better with a quality feed that had chelated minerals, all necessary amino acids, correctly balanced omegas and low sugar. I can feed the same feed to all including my PPID horse due to the low sugar -starch ratio. It has NO corn, which is poorly tolerated in horses and leads to choke, impaction and colic and an imbalanced omega source that leads to inflammation. Even their winter coats are super shiny and they have fast growing manes and tails plus healthy hooves. The horses don't get "hot" but do feel good and only one gets fat because he steals food from others, so he gets more riding.
These videos on the questions have been great. I’ve had to catch up. Is that Rooster? He looks great!
I sold Rooster a couple of years ago.
Amen!! Although some breeds handle feeds differently than others.
I have never known that to be.
I feed low sugar beetpulb shreds
hemp meal Crypto aero organic feed and second cutting alfalfa soaked
So you're telling us you are a hippie...
Awesome tip on soaking alfalfa. Thanks
I actually just learned that a few months before I did this video.
We always feed first cutting alfalfa and our horses have done just fine. Weather there being used everyday on the mountain or setting in the winter.
its a good feed.
There is no sugar in beet pulp it has been extracted before and in fact it is a great food for young horses for putting on weight. You are giving misleading info. People need to speak to professionals and have them design a diet specifically for each individual horse.
That simply isn't true about the beet pulp. Perhaps some brands...I do agree the professional should be spoken to but buyer beware, its the easiest thing in the world to get a degree in equine nutrition and it doesn't mean you know what you are talking about.
@@HorsemanshipAsAnArt sorry your wrong Sugar Beet Pulp goes through a process of extraction and some cases extrudation The sugar is extracted leaving pulp and fibre. It is sold as "low sugar" simply because of marketing as people assume it is high sugar. Having a degree in Equine Science Nutrition is valid and there is little point in you trying to devalue it. People on hear need to consult experts on horse nutrition if they are wanting valuable advice on feeding horses whether young, old, sick, completion, and breed related. A one size fits all is not helpful.
@@HorsemanshipAsAnArt it is wholy true it goes through a process to extrude sugar. Belittling people who have solid knowledge in Equine Nutrition and have studied it is rather childish. The low sugar brands generally have molasses added and that is why it is called "low sugar". Over ninety eight percent of natural sugar is extruded which is referred to as sugar free. This is done as the minimal amount of sugar that is left behind are simple sugars as opposed to additives which are complex sugars and have to be labelled for regulation purposes. Yes it is useful to soak alfalfa or any dry grass if a horse is not drinking enough water.
@@loredelore7286 I did not belittle anyone I just said you were wrong. Natural sugar or added sugar from molasses; it doesn't matter to me its to much sugar. I understand the difference between simple and complex sugars and I would rather not have my horses on either of them if I can help it. Soaking your hay for a horse that doesn't drink enough? Thats a last resort. Its better to teach them to drink.
@@HorsemanshipAsAnArt you were cynical and belittling people who know what they are talking about in your reply please stop lying.
I'll take Timothy hay, half out of the boot, clean water, trace mineralized salt, and an occasional flake of alfalfa. And, yes, most horses are over supplemented.
Good presentation.
Side note: l seem to think a fat horse may developed a thick crest which can lead to a navicular situation.
I think thats what happened to the neighbors horse. Without Xrays its a guess. To address numerous buck offs he was experiencing, he asked me to ride the fresh off the rather large chunk. It was my opinion that over weight in regard to the behavior issues was the result of over feeding, so I told him the horse was probably lame, and that it was something Xray would relieve. He wouldn't believe me.
I never proved my point, nor did l need to.
l was happy to let it go. There's so many horses to work with, and l had other business to attend to.
Thanks for sharing.
I like them fat but not that fat.
I like hot horses so it's a non issue for me. My logic might not work for the pack string. I feed alfalfa in the morning , oat hay at lunch (yes the grain hay might juice them up) and alfalfa at night. They enjoy the change of feed at noon. I like to keep them grazing all day even though they are in a corral. Zero supplements. Fat and muscled is my favorite color. Never any colic or founder issues. If you have an issue with alfalfa it's probably cuz you can't ride and you and your horse need more training. I've heard that first cutting is for dairy cows, second cutting is best for good horses and third cutting is for trail nags. Feeling old and awnry today.
my horses are fat just from their pasture..and no I definitely dont ride them enough...no grain added and no supplements - if I Ever fees in the winter it's a low starch hay replacer grain..I gave my mustang alfalfa hay and he about couldn't stand still - he was ready to jump at any second..in fact he would start to go then just stop (at that point all we could do is halter and brush him..and I'd get on the mounting block and band his mane - not cause I really cared to band his mane but it was more just to have him get used to seeing me up there above his head for when riding time came).
Excellent 👍
Thank you