@@flyfalfly There are many arts servants with batteries, and most of them are really good not only for farming, but for CQ content as well. And arts servants loop their np much easier than quick servants do. So if arts servants have battery on their kit, then I see no reason for quick ones NOT to have as well.
Tbf I'm pretty sure Lancelot could get 100% refund since the original Skadi came out,the impressive thing is doing it with black grail and no help from MC
@@rizqeenurhani3683 Not only those two. Also Atalanta, Parvati, Valkyrie and Marie. Parvati and Valkyrie were arguably even better than Zerkelot since they were able to loop even with 1 Skadi and 1 Waver. But yeah, they suffer against Saber nodes.
Zerklot who greeted two Skadi's to the usual Looping session, but suddenly got 2 buster buffs, Buster crit buffs and saw another Skadi at the back: *Cue Homelander surprised laughing meme*
Literally the one thing quick is lacking farmingwise is a failsafe to make up for its lack of consistiency compared to the ither card types, if regular skadi eitehr provided a 30% np gain up or a partywide low battery quick would be much more consistent and potentially work on irregular nodes. It doesnt help that the only buffs he got are quick ups outside of the atk up from oc, because of multiplicative stacking a 30% quick up and 30% atk up is better than a 60%quick up. This isnt as significant as the np gain, but as more damage means more overkill hits, np gain from overkill would certianly help.
Voyager did it well enough after his last buff with just a pair of OG Skadi's and Castoria. Though, he was rather short on damage, so this is an improvement.
Curious to see how this will work out on 1/3/x or 2/1/x 90+ nodes. Zerkerlot having a triple buster deck is honestly amazing with summer Skadi buffs. Not sure if he'll need a starting 50% CE or if we will still be able to get away with BG, but it should be pretty interesting nonetheless.
Yes! Triple Skadi system! +180% Quick performance looks huge. Now I have a reason to save for her arrival in NA. ❄️❤️ Who am I trying to scam, i would have rolled 1000+ SQ for her anyway, no matter what she does, just because she is Skadi. KYAA! ❤️
I never thought the day that quick able to use black grail, and Lancelot reach a damage more than MusashiZerker. I always think, haha quick is useless after change meta, so I throw my Skadi off, and here is, the queen back. The queen is my very first 5* caster "supporter"
@@angellisanguyen9426 I was only talk about loop but I see. I think this kind of experiment is needed. What about low tier quick looper & low hit NP? And also it's fair BG 3t need pluguit anyway for most looper, unless top art looper.
I tried out a BG Zerkerlot comp in NA with Bride/Double Skadi. It's possible but you need to get max Mana Loading on Zerkerlot. In comparison from the video you wouldn't need the Mana Loading and NP regain is better with a Double S.Skadi/Skadi comp making BG looping more stable for Zerkerlot.
And you can run double Ruler Skadi too, right? It’s nice how they’re varying classes for supports. You can run, say, Oberon/Bride/X/X/Reines/Castoria/Koyanskaya/X/Ruler Skadi now for a “full support” support list. Less fishing around for the right meta support, which is a great QoL improvement.
@@jaishkhan7442 Lancer would probably be Lancer Raikou or base Elisabeth. Maybe a grailed Leonidas. But more likely a semi-support, like Bryn or...Don Quijote if you need a battery and can't pick somebody else for some reason. Archer---Calamity Jane is probably best, with a starbomb CE. Chiron. Santa Nightingale. Summer Osakabehime is niche but possible. Scope Nobukatsu. I don't think I'd ever pick a support David off my list. Extra---we have so many. Van Gogh, Oberon, Ruler Skadi, Sherlock, Jeanne, Ganesha, Summer Abby, Himiko, Douman, Summer Da Vinci, Xu Fu, Pope Joan...
Using that team with Dantes instead of Lancelot will not work. Assuming 3 enemies with a refund rate of 100% and health values of 30,000, a NP5 Dantes will only get 86% refund but because the Skadi's battery are a flat 50%, he will be locked on a subsequent wave.
hmm still cant beat lvl 88 np2 no black grail ibuki, i think skadi is better for challange quest and servant like x alter or mid bossee have 500w which requires you to hit them again to gain sp. So something like summer BB is necessary to lock the card. or take advantage on the latest qab mechanics have summer skadi act as doule skadi, T1 comes out use all her buff and have catoria/Lady alon swap in to,buff the blue card. then have BB lock card. This way for castoria you have constant np gain for three round, if you have sufficent SP at the begining instead castoira you can use lady avalon np to give you 5 -7.2 every turn ends then at round two you can turn on berserk np gain.
the results will probably just the same with double skadi, triple skadi just lets you farm without super scope, But summer skadi would be on the top I guess
We needed another quick support seems only skadi is being used by everyone since its hard to think of quick supports besides her I can only remember Alexander
Mhe, i would have prefered summer skadi kit to be something more endurance oriented cause as thing are now you cant really use quick for challenge quests due to lack of survivability. And u can 3T Cq better with art so quick seems to remain mhe
Yeah but if you're gonna switch charcaters then you can force loop anyone with a 50% charge and a scope. This isn't a revival BTW this has been around since day 1 skadi
Will regular Skadi ever go on rate up? I have Okita, Zerkalot, Atalanta Alter, Scathach, and Caren already. But I have to sideline them because I don't have Skadi to make them as useful as my arts and buster servants.
Should be fine. If what I've seen so far is correct she has a 65% quick up, 15% attack up and a 50% charge so in terms of NP damage, they're roughly similar and in terms of NP gain, summer Skadi actually wins out since she gets 15% quick up instead of defense down. Seems like they're interchangeable depending on the situation.
Aside from Quick Servants with Lancer decks and Lancelot. Does the double 65% Quick Up from double Ruler Skadi made any notable differences for other Quick AoE Servants. Like are there any Servants that suddenly got enabled with this system that OG Skadi can't before?
No. She just improves the damage as SSkadi's steroids aren't debuff based and carries across all three waves, making Quick actually competitive with Buster in 3/3/x rn. An extra 30% in Quick buffs wouldn't cause a miracle.
Ruler Skadi is honestly such a weird servant... It's like they couldn't decide if they want her to be Quick support or buster support, and it's turned out halfed-ass in both departments.
She's a crit support. Yes she helps slightly with looping, but she's much better with crit DPS. Buff quick = more stars, buster crit = stupid damage. One buster crit does almost twice as much damage as a quick crit anyways, so it evens out the two cards for more consistent damage. And if that's not enough, Her s2 is 15 stars a turn and her s3 is a star bomb as well, meaning on turns you use the buster cards, she'll still give consistent crit. If you're "unlucky" where your stars land on arts cards, that's just a huge NP charge to use an NP next turn. The worse case scenario is getting 4-5 of her or you DPS's face cards in a single turn, but every run has a potential of bad RNG.
or quick in general are meant to support the other cards in the first place, that osakabehime np buff from years ago are probably 100% proof that they will be going with this idea instead in the future and they did deliver it years later (the mighty chain buff and summer skadi)
It's for mighty chain. QAB has the same values of damage as BQB or BAB for the last Buster card, meaning that her crits for Buster are way stronger than OG Skadi's buffs for Quick
S.Skadi is about crit + np. Quick to generate stars, get np refund and hit. Buster crits are used for dmg here, since it's the highest card for face card dmg. So the idea is to buster crit whilst having quick np dmg, meaning that she can both serve as Quick and Buster crit support now. The apparently bad kit is actually something very strong because she can support Quick for np dmg/loop + True critical dmg with Buster crits, and can also be a Buster crit support as well, being top 1 buffer for buster servants if they don't have very strong self steroids. Her skill set is the dream of all supports crit related, the lack of survival is one of the few downsides she has. (the lack of np gain buff can be compensated with np gain on the dps or big np battery)
Nagiko (Sei Shounagon) can already loop with the right setup in NA, but it may not work against Assassins/Berserkers. Hopefully summer Skadi will make her more consistent. I'm sure she'll still need starting gauge CE's though. The way I do it now, Nagiko needs either Kscope, or with max mana loading she could equip a 60% starting gauge CE. Start with the two Skadis on the frontline, they use their Quick buffs right away but save their batteries for later. As long as Nagiko refunds 30%, then you can swap one of the Skadi's out for Waver or Reines on turn 2 and the loop works
Revival? I see it as more of an alternative option. After all, Assassin Wu plug did mostly the same just with less buff values. More Q steroids is nice, helps with dmg & refund. Hard charge also helps a lot. Hitting the refund requirements is less of an issue now.
Hmmmm, calling it just as alternative option but accept it has the way more benefit than the other option. For me it's basically making the other option the way less valid then
@@danielak1666 "valid". Okay, mind telling the thought process that led you to that word choice? And I hope it's not ToolAssist NumberCalc MetaSlave or similar reasons. Old team comps without S.Skadi still work. Does not make them "less valid". It's still limited, yes. Not many people are whale or lucksack. Some people also play with self-imposed constraints. GSSR random chance aside (thanks regionblock by Google), who knows if event will be rerun (thanks LS devs). Oh & I got just a copy of S.Skadi in a pure spite 10 draw when I screamed at my FGO to prove you wrong, so thanks I guess. Lol
@@SaoJun you said it's only an alternative then start making comparison with wu. But then start saying wu gives less buff, didn't give battery etc. So what actually make S. Skadi an alternative of assassin wu, especially as you said, the other one has everything better? I never said double skadi or S. Skadi+skadi will work the way lesser than double summer skadi. But make a comparison with assassin wu is more like a joke here *the video shown the use of double skadi with plugsuit skadi. So unless you already state before hand I won't automatically assume you mean to compare double S. Skadi with double skadi+assassin wu
@@danielak1666 Previously Q team comp was limited to C.Skadi x2 mainly. Plugsuit options consisted of Waver (50 NPcharge Atk Crit), Assassin Wu (Q Atk NP charge), maybe Oberon & others. NP refund was from 2004 & Babylonia Master Mystic Codes, or CE or your attacker having skills that boosted that. My main point is that S.Skadi effectively does what Assassin Wu did, but much better.
Ok that's good! Still, for the cost of 2 limited SSRs you can now bring your best Quick servants up to the level of the worst good Arts servants so I don't know if the improvement really matters until Quick gets something else still
@@ryanwest6035 That's 5CEs, a plugsuit and 3 limited SSR supports for "mOaR dAmAgE". Lmao, you don't even understand how basic farming works. That isn't superior to Arts at all.
@@kun2588 Are you dumb or you just like making people think you are? Event CE I said and you reply with 5CE. Now this event the 50% charge is a damage CE but all I see is arts people using Saito with it so you're still 5CEs lol. Hakkenden 50% charge CE = Point CE = 6CE Double Vitch Oberon Learning With Manga 50% charge CE = Excavation CE = 6CE Double Vitch Oberon (best in slot 50% CE for general use) Sea Monster Crisis 50% charge CE = Cons CE = 6CE Double Vitch Oberon Battle for New York lotto 50% charge CE = Lotto Box CE = 6CE Double Vitch Oberon Valentines 50% CE = Points CE = 6CE Double Vitch Oberon Feel stupid enough already? The only events this year to not have a 50% charge CE be the most optimal in the event are one that needs a damage CE thanks to the final node and the other one being a rerun that was a year late. Lets go back even more.... Xmas 2021, Halloween, Guda 6, Summer 6.... all 50% Event CEs. It's like they did this on purpose so someone they just introduced who pulled 3 billion yen in and is one of the most popular characters they've made can be used optimally in nearly every event after or something.
Hey! OP deleted the original comment in our last conversation, deleting the entire thread, so I couldn't answer you. Yes, you could use Oberon like that but only on certain servants. Some servants may need the additional 50%~65% card color buff that another Skadi will bring to help them refund. Anyway, to answer your question as to why Quick ST is superior to Arts ST; 1. Skadi provides the same damage throttling as Castoria in CQs because her debuff has an effect over multiple turns. 2. Arts cards, to put it quite frankly, are completely ass at damage because Castoria provides nothing to help it. Quick crits in a DSS support system outdamage Arts crits by such a distance that it is hilarious. Naturally Arts AE is superior because the emphasis there is on NP damage and Castoria/Tamamo are excellent there. Arts crits does have LAvalon now but she only provides a 1T crit steroid so ultimately they're still in the same situation. 3. Loop consistency is not as important in CQs because you do have access to cards and can easily cycle supports for batteries unlike farming. Damage>Loop consistency, specially now because Quick setups can now have three 50% chargers with >50% steroids in addition to Oberon. 4. Quick is weak at sustain, but nothing says you can't run Skadi/Castoria to alleviate those issues. I remember stalling a lot with Skadi/Kama/Castoria setup before I had the tools to TA. It's not going to be as good as the other cardtypes stall but, hey, it's functional. 5. Quick's support isn't bad. Imo, Koyan≈Skadi. The problem with Quick is the inherent modifiers that the card has, which can't be rectified unless they tweak the core mechanics.
Summer Skadi gives 65% Quick Performance Up using both her S1 and S2, so Summer Skadi is preferable as the support pick since OG Skadi only brings 50%. But in this case, it probably doesn't matter quite as much. Maybe.
Using that team with Dantes instead of Lancelot will not work. Assuming 3 enemies with a refund rate of 100% and health values of 30,000, a NP5 Dantes will only get 86% refund but because the Skadi's battery are a flat 50%, he will be locked on a subsequent wave.
![[FGO] "Triple Meta" Meta](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/PuzoW8Vraho/mqdefault.jpg)
Skadi's shoulder must have hurt from carrying the whole quick meta, and those melons
She's the goddess that is aasociated with mountain, no wonder she has that big pair of mountains. So she probably love carrying those mountains.
Is it just me, or those are bigger melons on her summer version compared to the og one?
Well, y'know, this is merely an academic hypothesis
Her role as a struggling single mother in LB2 makes sense now. The humans and giants are the Quick children she's taking care of.
Apparently, she likes to lick some ice creams. I am just wondering if she's pro at licking as weIl...
@@astridparungao4971 I see, no wonder their lives in LB2 is so quick.
Lasegna: *releases no new Quick buffers*
Skadi: Fine. *puts on swimsuit*
I'll do it myself.
We also need new Quick DPS servants. Buster and Arts have a lot of battery rarely seen in Quick DPSs.
@@anonfinally1692 quick with big battery is too OP
@@flyfalfly That makes no sense bozo.
@@flyfalfly There are many arts servants with batteries, and most of them are really good not only for farming, but for CQ content as well. And arts servants loop their np much easier than quick servants do.
So if arts servants have battery on their kit, then I see no reason for quick ones NOT to have as well.
@@Dorminaru. if quick can get their np as good as arts can then what remains to art?
Friendly reminder that Zerkerlot is still completely unbuffed for some reason
He got that third skill
@@TheAnaz41745 having a third skill doesn't count as a buff when literally everyone has one
He got an np buff iirc, He isn’t buffed skill wise only
@@yohann3825 He has not received an np buff
Skadi is the buff
*Sees over 100% refund on quick*
“O-okay buddy Lancelot calm down fam”
what can i say, lancelot's np gain skill is good lmao
Tbf I'm pretty sure Lancelot could get 100% refund since the original Skadi came out,the impressive thing is doing it with black grail and no help from MC
he need buff on 3rd skill
make it 3 turn
@@gnt163 ehh the other 2 skills are a lot more subpar than the third one
it would be nice to have the np gain at 3 turns, but ehhh
@@frostboi77 skill 2 30% battery (he needs it)
Me when Zerkerlot finally showed up twice after I got Castoria: A bit late buddy.
Zerkerlot: No, I'm early.
give them to me, i need 16 more copies D:
Triple skadi system is now available for BLACK GRAIL!
Only on zerk charli and count of monte cristo probably
Two of those are universal though so if you have one you’re set
For 3 skadis...
@@rizqeenurhani3683 Not only those two. Also Atalanta, Parvati, Valkyrie and Marie. Parvati and Valkyrie were arguably even better than Zerkelot since they were able to loop even with 1 Skadi and 1 Waver. But yeah, they suffer against Saber nodes.
@@rizqeenurhani3683 and Daikokuten
Zerklot who greeted two Skadi's to the usual Looping session, but suddenly got 2 buster buffs, Buster crit buffs and saw another Skadi at the back:
*Cue Homelander surprised laughing meme*
"I am Quick and Quick is me" - Skadi
Zerkerlot and Skadi is the epitome of that babe it's time for flattening meme
Quick Meta in a nutshell...
Umu umu
Hmm Hmm
Ahaha
OWOWOWOWOWOOOOOOO~~~~~
AAAAAATTTHHHHAAAAAA~~~~~
Edmond dante : "HAHAHAHAHA"
@@abrahambasmah3988 its close but KUAHAHAHA
*DAMARE! DAMARE!*
*helmet gurgling noises*
It's so fucked up to see a servant with a 10 hit NP receive a full suite of buffs from three meta supports and get 56% refund. Quick is wild.
So much Quick buffs but no much NP gain buffs , now if only Lancelot 3rd skill was for 3 turns.
Literally the one thing quick is lacking farmingwise is a failsafe to make up for its lack of consistiency compared to the ither card types, if regular skadi eitehr provided a 30% np gain up or a partywide low battery quick would be much more consistent and potentially work on irregular nodes. It doesnt help that the only buffs he got are quick ups outside of the atk up from oc, because of multiplicative stacking a 30% quick up and 30% atk up is better than a 60%quick up. This isnt as significant as the np gain, but as more damage means more overkill hits, np gain from overkill would certianly help.
Arts: "Look what they have to do just to mimic a fraction of our power."
I want to see her supporting Dantes, Voyager, Charles or next to Koyanskaya farming with Okita alter alterego 🙏🏽
Voyager did it well enough after his last buff with just a pair of OG Skadi's and Castoria. Though, he was rather short on damage, so this is an improvement.
You mean Chokita saber.
@@yohann3825 Chokita Saber is swimsuit Okita Alter
I just got Summer Skadi today, I can't thank you enough for this loop
Zerkerlot: ARRRRRTHUUUUURRRR
Me: Poetic
The “OLULULULULU!!!” when you select his NP card gets me everytime
I can’t wait to bring my lvl 100 zerkerlot out of retirement in 2 years time.
Same I have a reason now more than ever to make him 120!
I have him at 106 now. Hopefully he spooks me enough times to get him to 120 by the time S.Skadi arrives on NA.
Np5 2000/2000 Zerkerlot will return in 2 years time then. He will just rest
YEEEEEEEES!!! one of my favorite berserkers back on the game with triple skadi system... let's save sq to hit pity on ruler skadi in 2024...
skadi is still a good support for our lord and saviour Cheng Gong
the pefect sup for Lancot and xiang yu, quick up and bust crit.
Curious to see how this will work out on 1/3/x or 2/1/x 90+ nodes. Zerkerlot having a triple buster deck is honestly amazing with summer Skadi buffs. Not sure if he'll need a starting 50% CE or if we will still be able to get away with BG, but it should be pretty interesting nonetheless.
Summer skadi legit take merlin job as buster crit support lol
@@dellee4793 eh, Merlin is more than just a Buster crit support, so he's fine.
@@dellee4793Merlin still enable stall comps.
This also means stronger REGEND's Tsubame Gaeshi, yay!
Yes! Triple Skadi system! +180% Quick performance looks huge. Now I have a reason to save for her arrival in NA. ❄️❤️
Who am I trying to scam, i would have rolled 1000+ SQ for her anyway, no matter what she does, just because she is Skadi. KYAA! ❤️
Yo this soundtrack heckin' SLAPS
I never thought the day that quick able to use black grail, and Lancelot reach a damage more than MusashiZerker.
I always think, haha quick is useless after change meta, so I throw my Skadi off, and here is, the queen back.
The queen is my very first 5* caster "supporter"
Isn't Oberon as 3rd support can do this too?
Okitan Summer was able to farm with Black grail though and she‘s already a year old
@@susvinci9274 Only for w3, while triple skadi is the increased damage for all 3 waves. As for refund, 80% quick buff > 20 NP charge.
@@angellisanguyen9426 I was only talk about loop but I see. I think this kind of experiment is needed. What about low tier quick looper & low hit NP?
And also it's fair BG 3t need pluguit anyway for most looper, unless top art looper.
summer okitan and charlie can loop with black grail (Caren aswell but she requires starting charge for both of the skadis)
I tried out a BG Zerkerlot comp in NA with Bride/Double Skadi. It's possible but you need to get max Mana Loading on Zerkerlot. In comparison from the video you wouldn't need the Mana Loading and NP regain is better with a Double S.Skadi/Skadi comp making BG looping more stable for Zerkerlot.
Interesting , thx for sharing , what np lv was the lancelot and on what node did you try it on
jesus. we are truly in the endgame now. now BG is viable for TSS
i like the part where lancelot says "auulululululul aaauuurrrgggghhhhhh"
Waiting for a complete quick meta update vid
Lancelot is pretty wild
Skadi is the Queen of The Quick. Skadi is one of these best girl!
She's the best, not one of the best.
will now be eagerly awaiting the summer skadi on NA
i can make do with my weird single skadi set-up on my lancelot tho
This is my wetdream seeing Lancelot loop
Oh my god. He become a 'Power overwhelming'
"Revival" at cost of 2 limited SSRs, plugsuit and 50% CE in alot of cases.
Vitch system in a nutshell
Sounds like you're describing Buster, lmao.
nice. if only i got the quartz for it
Now zerklot can farm 1-2-2 or 2-1-2 wave. Well that would depend on card shuffle though
And you can run double Ruler Skadi too, right?
It’s nice how they’re varying classes for supports. You can run, say, Oberon/Bride/X/X/Reines/Castoria/Koyanskaya/X/Ruler Skadi now for a “full support” support list. Less fishing around for the right meta support, which is a great QoL improvement.
There's Scathach for Lancer, David for Archer and BB for Extra ig?
@@jaishkhan7442 Lancer would probably be Lancer Raikou or base Elisabeth. Maybe a grailed Leonidas. But more likely a semi-support, like Bryn or...Don Quijote if you need a battery and can't pick somebody else for some reason.
Archer---Calamity Jane is probably best, with a starbomb CE. Chiron. Santa Nightingale. Summer Osakabehime is niche but possible. Scope Nobukatsu. I don't think I'd ever pick a support David off my list.
Extra---we have so many. Van Gogh, Oberon, Ruler Skadi, Sherlock, Jeanne, Ganesha, Summer Abby, Himiko, Douman, Summer Da Vinci, Xu Fu, Pope Joan...
Lance and Skadi doing the same pose lmao
Should not have burned my Lancelot
Dantes gonna back to business ~
He never leaves. Just use Oberon as 3rd support.
Using that team with Dantes instead of Lancelot will not work. Assuming 3 enemies with a refund rate of 100% and health values of 30,000, a NP5 Dantes will only get 86% refund but because the Skadi's battery are a flat 50%, he will be locked on a subsequent wave.
We revived Quick Meta, you just need 3 Skadies. 2 of which are heavily limited. Meanwhile Castoria goes Brrr.
Still need 3 supps, Arts still in the throne RN
Still can't do Zerk waves, unfortunately
Those that grailed Ushi... muwhahahahahha!!!!!
Cmiiw, but this bg system mostly works on quick loopers who's already able to bg 3t. Even Dantes need battery CE.
Still hoping they do something about crits stars
Me: damn that's crazy
*Notices that there's no kscope*
🤤
Tiếng của lancelot nghe dễ thương thực sự
my np5 lv 100 2k max fou zerkerlot have enough rest in 4 years, time to go lv 120 and rampaging again
lancelot your daugher is watching u, ready to take u down lol
skadi once again reviving quick for the 2nd time
SuperScope and Double Skadi seems more efficient to me still
need to see this from dantes
BG Quick loop? interesting
hmm still cant beat lvl 88 np2 no black grail ibuki, i think skadi is better for challange quest and servant like x alter or mid bossee have 500w which requires you to hit them again to gain sp. So something like summer BB is necessary to lock the card.
or take advantage on the latest qab mechanics have summer skadi act as doule skadi, T1 comes out use all her buff and have catoria/Lady alon swap in to,buff the blue card. then have BB lock card. This way for castoria you have constant np gain for three round, if you have sufficent SP at the begining instead castoira you can use lady avalon np to give you 5 -7.2 every turn ends then at round two you can turn on berserk np gain.
Hmm, Ibuki does have event bonus damage here, if you're making a comparison in this event.
QUICK FARMING WEITH BG UGHHH I WANT HER ON MY NA
This is beautiful. Hopefully someone tries this system with Summer Okita Alter.
Double s.skadi with dantes on cq
Could you make Triple Skadi System Tier list?
the results will probably just the same with double skadi, triple skadi just lets you farm without super scope, But summer skadi would be on the top I guess
I guess it's nice that quick fans have the option now, but using plugsuit still feels bad.
I guess most of the buster farmers are bad :(
@@6ToesHeACreature Yes, they are, unfortunately.
Wondering if skadi ruler can do this with a castoria for np gain boof... prolly not
狂兰神
We needed another quick support seems only skadi is being used by everyone since its hard to think of quick supports besides her
I can only remember Alexander
Mhe, i would have prefered summer skadi kit to be something more endurance oriented cause as thing are now you cant really use quick for challenge quests due to lack of survivability.
And u can 3T Cq better with art so quick seems to remain mhe
Can you try it with summer Okita alter with black grail?
She can already do it with Double Caster Skadi and Castoria/Reines before
With Summer Skadi of course she can do it too
@@TheAnaz41745 i know, but i just want to see how much damage she can deal with summer skadi
Yeah but if you're gonna switch charcaters then you can force loop anyone with a 50% charge and a scope.
This isn't a revival BTW this has been around since day 1 skadi
Will regular Skadi ever go on rate up? I have Okita, Zerkalot, Atalanta Alter, Scathach, and Caren already. But I have to sideline them because I don't have Skadi to make them as useful as my arts and buster servants.
I'm sure we won't QUICK-ly to forget this QUICK meta 🌚
is double summer Skadi an enough substitute for double Skadi set up?
Curious if i may roll for her since i don't own the og skadi
Not for CQ’s where you rely on quick crits for looping.s For farming? Yes.
considering she has 15% more quick up than caster skadi
i'd say yes
Three of them ensure the np refund so you can give your farmer event ce
Should be fine. If what I've seen so far is correct she has a 65% quick up, 15% attack up and a 50% charge so in terms of NP damage, they're roughly similar and in terms of NP gain, summer Skadi actually wins out since she gets 15% quick up instead of defense down. Seems like they're interchangeable depending on the situation.
Aside from Quick Servants with Lancer decks and Lancelot. Does the double 65% Quick Up from double Ruler Skadi made any notable differences for other Quick AoE Servants. Like are there any Servants that suddenly got enabled with this system that OG Skadi can't before?
No. She just improves the damage as SSkadi's steroids aren't debuff based and carries across all three waves, making Quick actually competitive with Buster in 3/3/x rn.
An extra 30% in Quick buffs wouldn't cause a miracle.
Ruler Skadi is honestly such a weird servant... It's like they couldn't decide if they want her to be Quick support or buster support, and it's turned out halfed-ass in both departments.
She's a crit support. Yes she helps slightly with looping, but she's much better with crit DPS. Buff quick = more stars, buster crit = stupid damage. One buster crit does almost twice as much damage as a quick crit anyways, so it evens out the two cards for more consistent damage.
And if that's not enough, Her s2 is 15 stars a turn and her s3 is a star bomb as well, meaning on turns you use the buster cards, she'll still give consistent crit. If you're "unlucky" where your stars land on arts cards, that's just a huge NP charge to use an NP next turn. The worse case scenario is getting 4-5 of her or you DPS's face cards in a single turn, but every run has a potential of bad RNG.
or quick in general are meant to support the other cards in the first place, that osakabehime np buff from years ago are probably 100% proof that they will be going with this idea instead in the future and they did deliver it years later (the mighty chain buff and summer skadi)
It's for mighty chain.
QAB has the same values of damage as BQB or BAB for the last Buster card, meaning that her crits for Buster are way stronger than OG Skadi's buffs for Quick
S.Skadi is about crit + np.
Quick to generate stars, get np refund and hit.
Buster crits are used for dmg here, since it's the highest card for face card dmg.
So the idea is to buster crit whilst having quick np dmg, meaning that she can both serve as Quick and Buster crit support now. The apparently bad kit is actually something very strong because she can support Quick for np dmg/loop + True critical dmg with Buster crits, and can also be a Buster crit support as well, being top 1 buffer for buster servants if they don't have very strong self steroids.
Her skill set is the dream of all supports crit related, the lack of survival is one of the few downsides she has. (the lack of np gain buff can be compensated with np gain on the dps or big np battery)
Now I'm curious how Xiang Yu fares with this now.
He definitely wont be able to loop as good as berserkerlot but for harder content that buster crit buff is going to turn him into a monster
Can't wait for those absolutely disgusting Xiang Yu Buster Crits.
Xiang Yu is never about loop, but his buster crit will be rather high with 3 turn buster crit damage up
He can't
I wanna do this on S.Okitan or Charlie.
I blew all my 200 sq and only 1 4starcaster( forgot her name) and diarmud spook
How do the damage numbers compare with Superscope Godjuna + 2x Koyanskaya + Oberon-or-whoever?
Yoooo
Got a homie that is a huge Sei fan
Wonder if triple Skadi can make Sei loop
Nagiko (Sei Shounagon) can already loop with the right setup in NA, but it may not work against Assassins/Berserkers. Hopefully summer Skadi will make her more consistent. I'm sure she'll still need starting gauge CE's though. The way I do it now, Nagiko needs either Kscope, or with max mana loading she could equip a 60% starting gauge CE. Start with the two Skadis on the frontline, they use their Quick buffs right away but save their batteries for later. As long as Nagiko refunds 30%, then you can swap one of the Skadi's out for Waver or Reines on turn 2 and the loop works
Arthuuur 😡
thats nice, this is also work against zerker or asassin?
I highly doubt it
probably not lancelot, but maybe other good quick farmers can
I think it's pretty possible since there's decent amount of extra np left
@@imagebear8916 Just multiply the refund by 0.8 to get it. I don't think it will.
@@KamiRuku oh :(
I can't seem to buy jp quartz. Anyone know the trick to it. It's ironic I can't spend money even if I wanted to, lol.
Triple Skadi system with MHX alter next?
Do the actual Triple Skadi System and use Lancer Skadi as your DPS
Omg, "Lancer Skadi"💀
@@vinmh7084 what do you call her?
OG Skadi?
GAA Skadi?
Ninja Skadi?
Masked Skadi?
Shishou?
i already heared all of them.
@@ilhanovic5219 HAG!
I'm assuming this works worse with Dantes in place of Zerkerlot?
So since I don't have Vanilla Skadi in NA, should I still try to roll for her in her reruns or just wait for Summer Skadi?
No. Just summon for arts and buster if you care about meta. But if it's for skadi waifu summon for caster
Revival? I see it as more of an alternative option.
After all, Assassin Wu plug did mostly the same just with less buff values.
More Q steroids is nice, helps with dmg & refund.
Hard charge also helps a lot.
Hitting the refund requirements is less of an issue now.
Hmmmm, calling it just as alternative option but accept it has the way more benefit than the other option. For me it's basically making the other option the way less valid then
Assassin Wu was great for pure damage, but the lack strong Quick buffs and NP charge means a lot, expecially for CE viability
@@danielak1666 "valid". Okay, mind telling the thought process that led you to that word choice?
And I hope it's not ToolAssist NumberCalc MetaSlave or similar reasons.
Old team comps without S.Skadi still work. Does not make them "less valid". It's still limited, yes.
Not many people are whale or lucksack.
Some people also play with self-imposed constraints.
GSSR random chance aside (thanks regionblock by Google), who knows if event will be rerun (thanks LS devs).
Oh & I got just a copy of S.Skadi in a pure spite 10 draw when I screamed at my FGO to prove you wrong, so thanks I guess. Lol
@@SaoJun you said it's only an alternative then start making comparison with wu. But then start saying wu gives less buff, didn't give battery etc. So what actually make S. Skadi an alternative of assassin wu, especially as you said, the other one has everything better?
I never said double skadi or S. Skadi+skadi will work the way lesser than double summer skadi. But make a comparison with assassin wu is more like a joke here
*the video shown the use of double skadi with plugsuit skadi. So unless you already state before hand I won't automatically assume you mean to compare double S. Skadi with double skadi+assassin wu
@@danielak1666 Previously Q team comp was limited to C.Skadi x2 mainly.
Plugsuit options consisted of Waver (50 NPcharge Atk Crit), Assassin Wu (Q Atk NP charge), maybe Oberon & others.
NP refund was from 2004 & Babylonia Master Mystic Codes, or CE or your attacker having skills that boosted that.
My main point is that S.Skadi effectively does what Assassin Wu did, but much better.
'Been meaning to ask for a while but what's your device ? The loading speed is really fast.
may i ask? what's the name CE u used for skadi/s.skadi?
Can you try it with Dante's?
Im curious on which is better: 2 skadi ruler/1 skadi caster or 2 caster/1 ruler?
2 skadi ruler + skadi caster.
Ok that's good!
Still, for the cost of 2 limited SSRs you can now bring your best Quick servants up to the level of the worst good Arts servants so I don't know if the improvement really matters until Quick gets something else still
Or you can Buster with any 50% event CE and output far more damage than arts ever can because Oberon da gawd.
@@ryanwest6035 That's 5CEs, a plugsuit and 3 limited SSR supports for "mOaR dAmAgE". Lmao, you don't even understand how basic farming works. That isn't superior to Arts at all.
@@kun2588 Are you dumb or you just like making people think you are?
Event CE I said and you reply with 5CE.
Now this event the 50% charge is a damage CE but all I see is arts people using Saito with it so you're still 5CEs lol.
Hakkenden 50% charge CE = Point CE = 6CE Double Vitch Oberon
Learning With Manga 50% charge CE = Excavation CE = 6CE Double Vitch Oberon (best in slot 50% CE for general use)
Sea Monster Crisis 50% charge CE = Cons CE = 6CE Double Vitch Oberon
Battle for New York lotto 50% charge CE = Lotto Box CE = 6CE Double Vitch Oberon
Valentines 50% CE = Points CE = 6CE Double Vitch Oberon
Feel stupid enough already? The only events this year to not have a 50% charge CE be the most optimal in the event are one that needs a damage CE thanks to the final node and the other one being a rerun that was a year late.
Lets go back even more.... Xmas 2021, Halloween, Guda 6, Summer 6.... all 50% Event CEs.
It's like they did this on purpose so someone they just introduced who pulled 3 billion yen in and is one of the most popular characters they've made can be used optimally in nearly every event after or something.
@@kun2588 imagine being not able to count
@@user-mg4rc1qw6w Can't be me. You're fielding three limited SSRs anyway, even if one support is borrowed off the FL.
Revival only works for Lancelot, Atalante, Dantes, and Parvati 😆
Maybe for BG, but for 50% CEs i'm pretty sure that it has more options
Majin Saber, Charlie, Caren, Voyager and Valkyrie.
Is np 1 summer skadi enough? Do have the funds to try np2 but can only imagine her as support.
If just as a Quick support? NP1 is good.
If as your Quick looper? Shoot for NP2.
Funciona con zerkerlot NP1?
Wouldn't double Skadi of your choice + oberon work as well?
Hey! OP deleted the original comment in our last conversation, deleting the entire thread, so I couldn't answer you.
Yes, you could use Oberon like that but only on certain servants. Some servants may need the additional 50%~65% card color buff that another Skadi will bring to help them refund.
Anyway, to answer your question as to why Quick ST is superior to Arts ST;
1. Skadi provides the same damage throttling as Castoria in CQs because her debuff has an effect over multiple turns.
2. Arts cards, to put it quite frankly, are completely ass at damage because Castoria provides nothing to help it. Quick crits in a DSS support system outdamage Arts crits by such a distance that it is hilarious. Naturally Arts AE is superior because the emphasis there is on NP damage and Castoria/Tamamo are excellent there. Arts crits does have LAvalon now but she only provides a 1T crit steroid so ultimately they're still in the same situation.
3. Loop consistency is not as important in CQs because you do have access to cards and can easily cycle supports for batteries unlike farming. Damage>Loop consistency, specially now because Quick setups can now have three 50% chargers with >50% steroids in addition to Oberon.
4. Quick is weak at sustain, but nothing says you can't run Skadi/Castoria to alleviate those issues. I remember stalling a lot with Skadi/Kama/Castoria setup before I had the tools to TA. It's not going to be as good as the other cardtypes stall but, hey, it's functional.
5. Quick's support isn't bad. Imo, Koyan≈Skadi. The problem with Quick is the inherent modifiers that the card has, which can't be rectified unless they tweak the core mechanics.
If only i have normal one :*
Does it matter which Skadi I bring as support?
Summer Skadi gives 65% Quick Performance Up using both her S1 and S2, so Summer Skadi is preferable as the support pick since OG Skadi only brings 50%.
But in this case, it probably doesn't matter quite as much. Maybe.
@@grotus5549 wow, she's even better than the og
Does it work with zerker enemies?
S.skaddy obtainable from Pity?
Can he do this on assassins?!!!
Possible with dantes?
Probably not since zerkerlot and dante has a bit different looping style. It's should work with summer okita tough
Using that team with Dantes instead of Lancelot will not work. Assuming 3 enemies with a refund rate of 100% and health values of 30,000, a NP5 Dantes will only get 86% refund but because the Skadi's battery are a flat 50%, he will be locked on a subsequent wave.
Haiz, the former king of quick right now lose to the so call budget version of his. Anyway ty for the reply
@@queen3038 The main problem is that Skadi's charge is a flat 50%. If it was something like Castoria's split 30/20%, then it would be much better.
If BG doesn't work, just use a CE with Quick Up and/or NP gain, it should work nicely