Wishlist on Steam: store.steampowered.com/app/1508530/Epiphany_City/ What's the most common thing Falcos do on Slippi? Was there anything I missed? Let me know in the comments!
double laser from ledge as a fox player my go-to option when falcos are on ledge is full hopping constantly trying to hard read this option with a high back air because they do it so much
Thank you so much for this video. I just went and played friendlies with mang0 and won 23 games in a row. Just last week I went 0-2 at levo. You truly can win against falco every time
The ultimate power you feel in your body when you powershield a falco's first lazer. You strike fear into their hearts and you can see it in their gameplay. Its an experience.
The funny thing is it's usually the easiest one to powershield too, since it's full stage length and you know exactly when it's coming. Hitting the first few can sometimes make them give up on lasering entirely for a stock or two haha
Bruh one time I accidentally powershielded a Falco players first 2 lasers in our first match and he just immediately left. Little did he know Im actually fucking trash at dealing with laser spam LOL
@@SSB_Seal Right?? Even easier if you hold A at the start and then do the Z shield trick. I get it almost everytime now and feel so cool even though it’s so easy haha
Just a warning: DK can not powershield Falco lasers under normal circumstances. You'll need to use Z-Powershields (hold a, then press Z and L/R at the same time) to powershield lasers.
@@omarg2079 just dash back or crouch before shielding, you’ll need to do a normal shield so make sure you press L or R quick enough so as not to get a light shield. You can also replace the springs on the shoulder buttons to make doing this easier.
I played a 10 game gf against a falco and every time I came down from the respawn platform he would full hop double jump. I caught on after one game and punished it every time. He never stopped doing it despite always getting hit. I was so mad that despite him being so predictable, it was still a last stock game 10 set. I probably have habits that got me punished every time that I don't realize.
Great video! This added a few little tips to the mountain of what I've learned in the Falco vs Sheik matchup by playing netplay every day. I personally like runoff rising nair best for covering side b since it can be used to cover sweetspot as well as above ledge. Also sitting on the side platform and charging needles like you mentioned is so broken, mid level falcos who rely entirely on lasers have literally no idea what to do when you show that you can easily out-camp them. One thing you didn't go over was double laser from ledge, which I find is even more common than side b, but is even worse/easier to punish. I have spent entire sessions trying to stop falcos from doing it every single time by just running up to ledge, crouching, and spamming dsmash/dtilt/nair as they jump up. Then if they start dairing from ledge I just wavedash back grab or nair oos it lol. Falco has such a great ledgedash and it saddens me to see so many of them forgo it entirely to rely on cheesy mixups like double laser/aerial/side b instead
As someone who has started trying to pick up Falco, just to play for fun, this is also a good tutorial on what to avoid being ingrained into your gameplay.
I'm a Falco main, and this video actually illustrated a lot of flaws in my gameplay that I need to work on. Maybe I'll finally start winning some friendlies! Thanks Kira!
"Oh boy I can't wait to see how I can start beating falcos with my yoshi!" "Shield is an amazing option against falco for a ton of reasons. Shield is a frame one jump cancellable move" fuck.
The same thing applies with Yoshi. Still invincible, still jc-able, and you can abuse the armor on double jump to punish their aerials with a Nair. (Not to mention that its just cooler when Yoshi does it)
@@ToThePowerOfX Yoshi can jump out of his pre-shield animation, which includes the projectile powershield window. It actually makes him really good against approaching laser.
Slippi is the shit. And I am expecting whenever the ranked ladder comes out that it will be insanely fun and competitive at all elo levels. Even my room mate who doesn't wave dash or l cancel or any advanced tech(hell he even misses most actual techs) still has fun playing online slippi once in a while
Dude the tech option and side b shit is so true, i could make a 20 minute montage of all the times ive rested falcos rolling in or side B'ing onto stage, then again my dumbass throws out pound too much, sometimes when every other option is better even, we all got work to do on our melee play
This video is responsible for one of the most drastic changes in my play style since I've played melee. It's actually insane how much better I am against Falco's now because I've started implementing this game plan. Not just falco's either but overall my approach to fighting any character has improved so much, game plans really do work. Unbelievably useful video for anyone looking to improve, thank you so much.
I'm not one to usually comment, but I just need to say that this guide is impeccable!! So in-depth and detailed. Perfect timing too because there are a few Falcos I play on unranked and was getting tired of them yesterday. Thanks again for the help!!!
Most falcos will up throw you, me who solely forward throws as falco and wondered why nobody ever saw it coming and they just eat a dair>shine free combo after
@@OGKidMelee For marth, you really need to capitalize on making him make mistakes, and punishing as much as possible. Most marths are going to mix in wavedashes and dash dancing. There probably going to down tilt or grab after, and then get you up above him so he can bully you. It's hard, but It can be avoided. Gl on the grind :)
@@palebee_7689 Hehe thanks my friend plays luigi and he cant seem to not down smash so l grab and get him off the stage so l can take a stock thanks for the ideas
because melee ledge is a safer place than ult. ledge, in ult. if you ledge regrab its not invincible and you can only ledge regrab 6 time in a row, melee lets you refresh ledge invincibility and regrab it an infinit amount of time.
Just reading the title makes me think of something I'd hear a shady man say to me at the crossroads in exchange for my soul, but it turns out, I just gotta avoid lasers. Huh.
As a trash falco player this video is very accurate. Do you have any advice for the ditto or what to do as falco instead of the options you listed? Mixing in dash dancing with lasers and making approaches more unpredictable is what comes to mind but things like the predictable wake-up or tech options I'm not so sure of.
Am I the only one who runs into random spacies with good shield pressure?? O.o Can't imagine shieldgrabs on falco aerials being that reliable tbh but maybe I just suck
I just started playing melee earlier this week. there was this hella flashy falco he was wavedashing all around the stage shining and all, but he was hella predictable all he did was laser, dash attack/dash Dair or some other attack. I played marth and I basically just stood there pressing down B or shield into grab whenever he got close and I won.
Wishlist on Steam: store.steampowered.com/app/1508530/Epiphany_City/
What's the most common thing Falcos do on Slippi? Was there anything I missed? Let me know in the comments!
short hop dair on shield
Laser and laser
Miss auto cancel laser
Double laser from ledge
double laser from ledge
as a fox player my go-to option when falcos are on ledge is full hopping constantly trying to hard read this option with a high back air because they do it so much
Thank you so much for this video. I just went and played friendlies with mang0 and won 23 games in a row. Just last week I went 0-2 at levo. You truly can win against falco every time
Can confirm I'm mango
how drunk was he
@@SSBMTutorials he was in jail and playing through the cell bars
@@SSBMTutorials I was sober
@@mlalbaitero the *real* problem
The ultimate power you feel in your body when you powershield a falco's first lazer. You strike fear into their hearts and you can see it in their gameplay. Its an experience.
Sometimes they just SD out of respect
The funny thing is it's usually the easiest one to powershield too, since it's full stage length and you know exactly when it's coming. Hitting the first few can sometimes make them give up on lasering entirely for a stock or two haha
Bruh one time I accidentally powershielded a Falco players first 2 lasers in our first match and he just immediately left. Little did he know Im actually fucking trash at dealing with laser spam LOL
@@SSB_Seal Right?? Even easier if you hold A at the start and then do the Z shield trick. I get it almost everytime now and feel so cool even though it’s so easy haha
Specially when you do it while running towards them lol
DK mains everywhere are thankful for this video 🙏
Just a warning: DK can not powershield Falco lasers under normal circumstances. You'll need to use Z-Powershields (hold a, then press Z and L/R at the same time) to powershield lasers.
Bless monke
@@omarg2079 just dash back or crouch before shielding, you’ll need to do a normal shield so make sure you press L or R quick enough so as not to get a light shield. You can also replace the springs on the shoulder buttons to make doing this easier.
as a random falco, every loss from now on is Kira's fault!
MonkaS
upload pls daddy
Upload luvdic we miss u lol
Shut up luvdix
monkaS *
Ludvix is ABSOLUTELY READY TO GET REEEKT?
I love that when you're talking about random unranked slippi falcos, you show clips of Westballz. The best random unranked falco
2015 was a wild time
oh no
You beat me to it
hah get fucked artlex ur time is up
"rip bozo" as the kids say.
Now we need to change our gameplan
oh yes
Comin for you Mang0
Oh shit Phil Swift who do you main?
phil swift ur da man
I played a 10 game gf against a falco and every time I came down from the respawn platform he would full hop double jump. I caught on after one game and punished it every time. He never stopped doing it despite always getting hit. I was so mad that despite him being so predictable, it was still a last stock game 10 set. I probably have habits that got me punished every time that I don't realize.
definitely! it can never hurt to post your replays in your characters discord server
falco is the most braindead character in the game at mid level
falco is incredibly degenerate. you're my god
@@bensnape4982 Ben Snape 💜
@@bensnape4982 ben snape youre too good at melee for these takes LMFAO
it is time for the birds to learn to fly
as a falco main, this both helps and hurts lmao
Guess I have to put my Falco secondary away for a bit.
lmfao
Mine felt so attacked.
Been watching you since 2017, So glad you're (kinda) back!
Great video! This added a few little tips to the mountain of what I've learned in the Falco vs Sheik matchup by playing netplay every day. I personally like runoff rising nair best for covering side b since it can be used to cover sweetspot as well as above ledge. Also sitting on the side platform and charging needles like you mentioned is so broken, mid level falcos who rely entirely on lasers have literally no idea what to do when you show that you can easily out-camp them. One thing you didn't go over was double laser from ledge, which I find is even more common than side b, but is even worse/easier to punish. I have spent entire sessions trying to stop falcos from doing it every single time by just running up to ledge, crouching, and spamming dsmash/dtilt/nair as they jump up. Then if they start dairing from ledge I just wavedash back grab or nair oos it lol. Falco has such a great ledgedash and it saddens me to see so many of them forgo it entirely to rely on cheesy mixups like double laser/aerial/side b instead
As someone who has started trying to pick up Falco, just to play for fun, this is also a good tutorial on what to avoid being ingrained into your gameplay.
I'm a Falco main, and this video actually illustrated a lot of flaws in my gameplay that I need to work on. Maybe I'll finally start winning some friendlies! Thanks Kira!
"Oh boy I can't wait to see how I can start beating falcos with my yoshi!"
"Shield is an amazing option against falco for a ton of reasons. Shield is a frame one jump cancellable move"
fuck.
The same thing applies with Yoshi. Still invincible, still jc-able, and you can abuse the armor on double jump to punish their aerials with a Nair. (Not to mention that its just cooler when Yoshi does it)
I've never played on netplay, but flaco is the easiest character to parry if it's any consolation.
@@WafflesOWNz Really? What makes him easier than others? I imagine that someone without projectiles would be easier to time parries against.
@@jessierose13 Yoshi cannot jump out of shield
@@ToThePowerOfX Yoshi can jump out of his pre-shield animation, which includes the projectile powershield window. It actually makes him really good against approaching laser.
Falco here looking to counteract the never lose to a falco on slippi. The meta continues to evolve.
Same
Man, I have never attempted to play Melee competitively, but your videos make me want to try. Great job man, and I'm excited for you to 100K
It's a great competitive outlet
Slippi is the shit. And I am expecting whenever the ranked ladder comes out that it will be insanely fun and competitive at all elo levels. Even my room mate who doesn't wave dash or l cancel or any advanced tech(hell he even misses most actual techs) still has fun playing online slippi once in a while
falcos roll like its their job
I’ve noticed a lot of low level falcos the second you touch their shield, roll behind you. I don’t get it, it’s so bad
remember kira the entire community loves u and thank you again bro for all of ur videos❤
I FINALLY was able to get Slippi. I watched all your Melee vids before having Slippi now I'm gonna rewatch them all since i have slippi :)
Dude the tech option and side b shit is so true, i could make a 20 minute montage of all the times ive rested falcos rolling in or side B'ing onto stage, then again my dumbass throws out pound too much, sometimes when every other option is better even, we all got work to do on our melee play
This video is responsible for one of the most drastic changes in my play style since I've played melee. It's actually insane how much better I am against Falco's now because I've started implementing this game plan. Not just falco's either but overall my approach to fighting any character has improved so much, game plans really do work. Unbelievably useful video for anyone looking to improve, thank you so much.
I'm not one to usually comment, but I just need to say that this guide is impeccable!! So in-depth and detailed. Perfect timing too because there are a few Falcos I play on unranked and was getting tired of them yesterday. Thanks again for the help!!!
Consider yourself wishlisted! Thanks for the vids Kira :O
Or the falco can just..... Keep shooting lasers..... :)
FalcoMaster420 isn't playing Falco on Slippi just to camp all day.
Most falcos will up throw you, me who solely forward throws as falco and wondered why nobody ever saw it coming and they just eat a dair>shine free combo after
its always funny to see a Falco spam lasers when you hold down shine
Unranked falco here taking notes 👀
its been so long and youre still making videos keep it up and thank you for all the content!
I have a friend who plays falco and I recognized most of this stuff and it's kind of hilarious to think that most falcos are this predictable
YOU DONT KNOW HOW MUCH I NEEDED THIS.
How to beat unranked Falco, shows westballz.
Shots fired
The transitions to epiphany city are so smooth I love it
i dont do most of this stuff but im also not any good. i cant wait to cover that side b to stage tho. ty kira
watching this video makes me violently angry at every single falco player on slippi for existing it also expanded my brain thank you 👍
I'm a luigi main who has had a lot of problems with falco. Can't wait to practice these! Thank you all so much! :)
I hate the Luigi V Marth matchup whenever I try to space my aerials he just wavedash in can you help me xD
@@OGKidMelee For marth, you really need to capitalize on making him make mistakes, and punishing as much as possible. Most marths are going to mix in wavedashes and dash dancing. There probably going to down tilt or grab after, and then get you up above him so he can bully you. It's hard, but It can be avoided. Gl on the grind :)
@@palebee_7689 Hehe thanks my friend plays luigi and he cant seem to not down smash so l grab and get him off the stage so l can take a stock thanks for the ideas
@@OGKidMelee ... Tell him to use f tilt
@@palebee_7689 downward angled BET
Love covering side b with falcon punch. Helps them realize their problem an play better!
...or ragequit
Kira I’m so glad your back man! Also the videos were great before, but you somehow made them even better 🔥
"Just what I needed!"
As a Peach main, I thank you.
This is a title I can get behind
my plan was usually to focus my entire being on powershielding the first laser in the match to make the falco scared of lasering forever
Been waiting for this for about a decade now
MY BODY IS REGGIE
10:15 Godlike segue tbh
ima use this for the falco ditto lmao
guys please wishlist epipphany city its really easy and I want kira to succeed
As a random unranked falco in slippi, i'll try to improve with this video
Brain dead falco checking in. Nice video!
The falcos are gonna need a follow up video to this one explaining our other options. Cuz apparently I’m a basic net play falco 😔
I'll get there, don't worry =)
These have been some banger videos
ah so kira's a fellow nail biter 😎
RIP Falco mains
wow i was just studying the falco matchup and this pops up in my feed lol
Sane
Same
Oh my god Thank you soo much! I needed this
He's reading my tiny falco brain
because melee ledge is a safer place than ult. ledge, in ult. if you ledge regrab its not invincible and you can only ledge regrab 6 time in a row, melee lets you refresh ledge invincibility and regrab it an infinit amount of time.
I think I might be one of the green falcos in the video ngl. I'm really curious now.
Ready to feel attacked when you guys release Never lose to marth
*turns around and up-tilts like ppmd would want us to. Falco's shield pressure is also really good if players don't feel like eating lasers too much.
I’m watching this so I can take my Falco past this level. Thanks!
Thanks for teaching these dirty shiek/marth mains how to stomp me harder than they already do
I can't speak for every new falco but I tend to accidentally laser -> f smash cause I'm fucking up an aerial and cancelling my jump with a bad input
As a garbage tier button-mashing Falco, I'm taking this video personally.
Just reading the title makes me think of something I'd hear a shady man say to me at the crossroads in exchange for my soul, but it turns out, I just gotta avoid lasers. Huh.
Being a bird is harder than it looks
best thumbnail ever
The hero we needed to keep the balance
i love gimping falco's recovery, oh yes dead at 50%
I feel so called out.
3:25
Up throw? I have never used that, I only ever use down throw to down smash and if my opponent is good you can just tech chase them.
1st round pools against Mang0...cries
falcos online ONLY downthrow
Yay a video about me
8:29 I’ll just do that. My crispiest Marth ledgedash are 3 galint max, fair is frame 4 :(
Gotta make them afraid or they won't respect you and just smother your onions basically
Shoulda stopped us falcos from seeing this. Now I'm gonna work on this stuff
One thing with falcon you gotta nair oos vs Falco bc it’s good
@@SSBMTutorials I just edited the autocorrect, I'm a falco, not falcon. And yes I hate working around falcons Nair oos unless I can get behind him
latest vids been a little noobie besides the spark sheik tc one was dope. Can’t wait for the game tho:3
As a trash falco player this video is very accurate. Do you have any advice for the ditto or what to do as falco instead of the options you listed? Mixing in dash dancing with lasers and making approaches more unpredictable is what comes to mind but things like the predictable wake-up or tech options I'm not so sure of.
4:41 cries in falcon spotdodge...
Doc mains rise up
Am I the only one who runs into random spacies with good shield pressure?? O.o Can't imagine shieldgrabs on falco aerials being that reliable tbh but maybe I just suck
Epic thumbnail 😂
Nice video!!!
This is good stuff. Thank you
NOOOO DON'T TELL THEM MY SECRETS
i’m an ultimate player and these vids are really helping me get better at melee, slippi so much better than ultimate online.
Does this count as the return of the "How to BEAT" videos?
It's in the playlist
4:48 almost 100%of the time... Dash attack... I mean where is this school for these random falcos? Where did they learn this stuff? Lol
I felt personally attacked by this video. Some hard truths were revealed here😂
I just started playing melee earlier this week. there was this hella flashy falco he was wavedashing all around the stage shining and all, but he was hella predictable all he did was laser, dash attack/dash Dair or some other attack.
I played marth and I basically just stood there pressing down B or shield into grab whenever he got close and I won.
Mango sweating right now...
Mango ain't unranked falco lol, trust me, he's not sweating
...check out this knucklehead over here not seeing the obvious joke.
those are all ultimate players, they try to ledge trap which is not existent or almost inexistent in melee.
You can also ledge hop falcon punch that noob side b
LMao I think this is me alot in this video, I'm a doc main, and I play falco like once every two weeks.
NOOOO DON'T DO US LIKE THIS
My secondary falco has always been shit. Watching that shitty falco footage at the start of the video was like looking into a mirror
The thumbnail be looking like it was done by AsumSaus