A Harvard career coach’s “unspoken rules” for getting promoted | Gorick Ng for Big Think+

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  • @raatrani38
    @raatrani38 ปีที่แล้ว +391

    Tangibles this guy seems to be communicating:
    - Bring in as much business as you can
    - Be memorable for your competence
    - Be easy to work with
    - Connect people within and outside the company (i.e. don’t just network; be a builder of networks)
    - Mentor winners (i.e. people who will also bring in business and are seen as competent)
    - Be good at managing up and building consensus around solutions (i.e. make your boss’ job easier to do, especially when you’re encountering bigger problems that require attention from people in charge)

    • @sammynochains3455
      @sammynochains3455 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The last point is gold tbh

    • @luianajoao446
      @luianajoao446 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Really? You caught all that from THIS video?😅

    • @raatrani38
      @raatrani38 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@luianajoao446Being a project manager in a matrixed org also helps, lol

    • @raatrani38
      @raatrani38 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Identifying “hidden opportunities to speak up, get invited to a meeting, build a relationship, ask a question” is decent advice with a lot of subtext itself. Ask yourself why it might be important to take advantage of the above… Because these are the building blocks to identifying problems, crafting proposals, assessing the status quo, generating solutions, and bringing in business (a.k.a. laying out next steps and offering to lead follow-up efforts)

    • @fatheryoda
      @fatheryoda ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I got more out of this comment that the actual video

  • @Chilos49
    @Chilos49 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    I literally got nothing out of this video. A true corp talk! Bravo 👏🏼

    • @hwago123
      @hwago123 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Basically saying relationship and politics in the office is what helps you get ahead

    • @Nature-ep5cu
      @Nature-ep5cu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same, took too long to drop major points just kept talking instead of hitting the points quickly

    • @luk2k3
      @luk2k3 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      same thought. probably good for only fresh graduates

    • @luk2k3
      @luk2k3 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      who you know > what you know

    • @naushabatodd-jones1136
      @naushabatodd-jones1136 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree. Unfortunately, I learned nothing new. The issues not spoken about are that some outsiders can never become insiders, especially nowadays when human resources are abundant. No amount of hard work or positive relationships can circumvent that.

  • @typorter-pp6lh
    @typorter-pp6lh ปีที่แล้ว +126

    Every single worthwhile job I ever landed was the result of having a positive connection with somebody already working at that company. Sometimes it was somebody I had never met, a friend of a co-worker, who had heard good things about my attitude and work ethic. Most often it was a former co-worker who now worked at the new company and put in a good word for me. I must emphasize this wasn’t “I want to do a favor for a friend.” This was “I want to work with somebody who is good at his job and is a good co-worker.” You never know who in your career will open a door for you in the future.

    • @cliffthecoolcat
      @cliffthecoolcat ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was never able to get a job. The only friend's I ever wanted were women.
      I am more of a product and process guy. I had to build my own business. The companies that I tried to work now ask me all the time to come work for them as I do business to business work for them.
      I would rather be dead than work for someone else.

    • @artistsingerwriterproducer8288
      @artistsingerwriterproducer8288 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Important is too the RIGHT NAME, RIGHT?

  • @corujariousa
    @corujariousa ปีที่แล้ว +207

    Excellent points raised. I'd like to add that are other complexities like: 1) Each work place is different and general rules would vary in intensity/importance so one needs to recognize and adapt; 2) Some environments can be very toxic, if you do not get accepted from start you'll never get anywhere. Recognizing when to leave is very important for success and even health reasons.

    • @AngelValdovinos
      @AngelValdovinos ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Asian dont work harder though

    • @ftakenouchi1464
      @ftakenouchi1464 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So so true, well said!

    • @okcomputer0101
      @okcomputer0101 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amen!

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  • @AvastarBin
    @AvastarBin ปีที่แล้ว +169

    Somehow the 6 mins are too long for the amount of information inthis video.
    Basically : understand the motivations for a task given to you and respond to these motivations rather than what's asked in the task. This will show you understand the company's objectives and know how to reach them.

    • @tugrulzure9929
      @tugrulzure9929 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you

    • @unbotheredwaffle
      @unbotheredwaffle ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I’m like half way through this video that I got randomly recommended cause I watch this channel for space videos thinking it was going to be interesting for a change but instead this mofo is literally saying nothing for half the video.

    • @Pimpjit85
      @Pimpjit85 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If that's what you got from the video, you should probably watch it again.

    • @christianabandabella235
      @christianabandabella235 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Pimpjit85yep. Totally true

    • @luk2k3
      @luk2k3 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      agreed. I thought it is written by ChatGPT

  • @paulpease8254
    @paulpease8254 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    I love the recognition between insiders and outsiders. Has taken me a long time to figure things out coming from a blue collar family and spending a long time in academia.

  • @undefinedvariable8085
    @undefinedvariable8085 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    In addition to being "heard" and "seen" you've got to be willing to take risks and the responsibilities that come along with that. Own a problem and drive a solution. But also be aware that not all problems are meaningful and worth solving, be careful not to fall into these traps because your time is precious.

  • @AmsterdamEats
    @AmsterdamEats ปีที่แล้ว +10

    in order of importance: luck > network/connections > interview skills/selling yourself > experience > degree
    luck and connections get you an interview, selling yourself gets you the job, having the experience to do said job makes sure you don't get fired after x months.

    • @MD-gk4uh
      @MD-gk4uh ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure, now go get hired for a job where you don’t have formal degree in and see how that goes for you. 😂

  • @deersakamoto2167
    @deersakamoto2167 ปีที่แล้ว +352

    Every career TH-camrs tell us that switching jobs with an average 15% salary bump is way better than getting a promotion where sometimes the only change is the job title

    • @Trae4k
      @Trae4k ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Yeah, but to be fair, the job title change could help prove your company thinks you are at that level when you do move companies.

    • @AlphaOmega333
      @AlphaOmega333 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I’ve never noticed TH-camrs saying this but I lived through in Silicon Valley. They expectation is two years or less and then a 20% pay bump. And I saw it happen all the time.

    • @fireflower44
      @fireflower44 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Just an extra tidbit and of course your mileage may vary. Job titles are meaningless. Your company may decide to give you a job title that doesn't match the norm for the position. They may make up a title that is so niche if you search for it you won't find anything similar. Depending on a title is pointless and I guarantee any future place you work isn't going to care. They are going to look at your actual tasks and qualifications. I've had interviewed tell me they had never heard of my job but all my skills fit what they needed. So don't put to much weight into what your title is.

    • @manoftomorrow5987
      @manoftomorrow5987 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Which I agree with. Change jobs and get that title and pay raise. A lot of managers do not reward their staff (I try my best to reward my staff for their hard work). I'm middle management and my direct report (senior executives) could raise my pay..but for my career to continue to grow I will have to leave the company to get to that next level (executive status).

    • @ZBM-jj1xr
      @ZBM-jj1xr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It depends on what you want to achieve and in what timeframe. Changing jobs is good for your pocket, but is usually a short term strategy. When you get older it might even prove to be detrimental, because you've priced yourself out of jobs if you only went for the salary bumps but not promotions. When you're in your 50s and 60s employers can get cheaper employees in their 30s and 40s while still getting a lot of experience in return.
      My advice would be to combine promotions and changing jobs with the accompanying salary bumps. That way when you get older those promotions will be the defining feature to your experience as supposed to the cheaper and younger but experienced applicants. A personal example: I work in healthcare and was working in position A. I got promoted to manager while still also working in position A at the same time, position A+ if you will. I did not really enjoy working as a manager per se, but I was able to use it as leverage to apply for position A at another facility. A former colleague who also worked in position A followed me there, but with very differing results. I was able to get a very big pay increase and they basically threw a very expensive program at me just to get me to make the jump, where my colleague got neither. We started in the same place, but that promotion I got earlier was what gave me the edge and made it so I could get a lot more out of the offer without even really trying.

  • @JacksOLantern
    @JacksOLantern ปีที่แล้ว +77

    That was so many words for such little advice

    • @4p4k
      @4p4k ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He must be an MBA. That’s how all of them talk

    • @thesatsui
      @thesatsui ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's a marketing ploy to buy his book. That's it. Keep the advice as vague as possible so the audience is interested enough to learn more. Every motivational speaker does this shit.

    • @MD-gk4uh
      @MD-gk4uh ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wait! There is an actual advice somewhere in there? 😲
      Where is it?🧐 Oh wait, this must be dry British humor I always heard about😂

    • @Nature-ep5cu
      @Nature-ep5cu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My thoughts exactly, he loves the sound of his voice I guess🙄😁

    • @hdsvideo
      @hdsvideo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thats bigthink for you

  • @willjensen5595
    @willjensen5595 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    I understand his point and that in a six minute video, it's hard to convey complexity. But Gorick basically repeated the same thing endlessly in this video. It could've been half as long and just as "impactful."

    • @chinookvalley
      @chinookvalley ปีที่แล้ว

      He's an idiot from a corrupt school. Get used to it.

    • @Fubbymaster
      @Fubbymaster ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Average big think video. High production value but saying something almost entirely obvious or meaningless

    • @edgar_nistor
      @edgar_nistor ปีที่แล้ว +15

      it looked like a commercial for his book

    • @michaelharris5281
      @michaelharris5281 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      It's an ad for his books

    • @LucienNox
      @LucienNox ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was about to comment the same thing 😅

  • @dingomatic
    @dingomatic ปีที่แล้ว +59

    And then there's the wildcard of your manager. Sometimes, you can play all of your cards right but have a lackluster manager that gets in your way.

    • @chemquests
      @chemquests 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That’s where having a network beyond your division is important. A mentor in the company, running teams that impact multiple areas, etc makes your impact felt beyond your boss. I try to maximize the impact so it’s not just up to them but I have more advocates among the leaders (a sponsor on some level).

  • @arboghast8505
    @arboghast8505 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    If your workspace overly emphasizes relationships, and you find yourself being an "outsider", struggling to join a "bro club" or an "inner cycle", do yourself a favour and just quit, it's a toxic working environment.

    • @jaadtoly23
      @jaadtoly23 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      great comment. If your company is more about relationships than skills, try to quit asap. Don't complain, it won't change. Move on! I am trying to do that at the moment...

    • @JasonSheniswinning
      @JasonSheniswinning ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This dynamic is going to be true in some way at every work environment. Learning to adapt to the system you’re in (and find the right place to thrive) is key.

    • @JKMT
      @JKMT 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jaadtoly23 its always about relationships that how people work, if there is two person with same skillset. 100% people will pick someone better to work with and know them. Unless your skill is unreplaceable then maybe you have bargin power.

  • @Adam-ui3yn
    @Adam-ui3yn ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Essentially to get ahead in a system compromised of humans, don't make the mistake of valuing technical skill over charisma. Other humans are responsible for your promotion so you must appeal to their needs, biases, and attention.
    Thats why whole marketing departments exist. If we only cared about the technical objective properties of products they would sell themselves. It's akin to how we can appreciate a musical piece that's very technical and complex but at the end of the day we give most our attention to songs with simple catchy melodies.

  • @julianalexanderfranco1483
    @julianalexanderfranco1483 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    An emotional connection is so so crucial in all aspects of our lives. Ofc this should include work.

  • @Twiggithy
    @Twiggithy ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Maybe at the highest, 1% levels, but for the rest of us, the only way to get "promoted" is to find a better paying company than where you are currently. You can work hard and play the corporate social game, but the best you'll get is more work and a "I don't know what we'd do without you." Let them figure that out after you're hired at a higher paying company.

    • @IIcultivatorII
      @IIcultivatorII ปีที่แล้ว

      Just kiss ur bosses ass

    • @brianadlich4406
      @brianadlich4406 ปีที่แล้ว

      Idk why anyone listens to these corporate blowhards. Career counselors self help gurus. It’s all bullshit.

    • @faithhouse6111
      @faithhouse6111 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Amen.

    • @moart87
      @moart87 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Spoken like a true outsider 🥲

  • @harrietschack4873
    @harrietschack4873 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    There are a few general rules such as: Networking, don't be irreplaceable in your current position, sign up for the important tasks and leave the organization of birthday parties to others. You have to sell your work, so learn storytelling. The advancement opportunities for specialists are limited, so decide consciously whether you want to become a specialist or a generalist.

    • @willv88
      @willv88 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The organization of birthday parties can actually be an opportunity to network. It's just as important to learn how to juggle what you're given with a new angle as opposed to spending all your time finding new opportunities. There's a balance here.

    • @beethao9380
      @beethao9380 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      simply no.

  • @parkmannate4154
    @parkmannate4154 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    As someone with bad social anxiety (to the point where its medicated) I long ago learned it would not matter how hard I worked or how good a job I did or even how much money I made the company, I would never advance because I can't make friends and socially interact effectively.
    This is a problem in the economy.

    • @PS987654321PS
      @PS987654321PS ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Social anxiety is a mental illness, often derived from complex PTSD, childhood issues. You need to address these issues so that you can work effectively with others.

    • @samar7362
      @samar7362 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am too awkward when it comes to making friends..I just can't...bad case of social anxiety

    • @PS987654321PS
      @PS987654321PS ปีที่แล้ว

      Then see a therapist. And in the meantime, please don't make life more unpleasant for everyone else.@@samar7362

    • @adsffdaaf4170
      @adsffdaaf4170 ปีที่แล้ว

      learn to make enemies, thats what you are anxious about

    • @PS987654321PS
      @PS987654321PS ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adsffdaaf4170 bad advice.

  • @Trae4k
    @Trae4k ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Its the same principle of it's not what you know; It's who you know. Make friends with people and doors will open to you because of your reputation

    • @jaysun4069
      @jaysun4069 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is where being autistic is a HUGE disadvantage. Making friends with people in that way is difficult to say the least. I've relied on skill alone for pretty much my entire career. And it sucks seeing people with half the skill get jobs just because they are friends with the right people

    • @krisxaero
      @krisxaero ปีที่แล้ว

      That's what some of these folks want. If you're on a spectrum, you're SOL.

  • @rodsalvador3608
    @rodsalvador3608 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Yeah, we know this. It's not what you know. It's who you know, and who likes you.

  • @schw0373
    @schw0373 ปีที่แล้ว +158

    There's no tangible advice in this video whatsoever. So let me fill in those gaps: (1) be well liked by the right people in management; (2) it's more important to do great work on the "big ticket" items management really cares about than demonstrating competency on many smaller daily tasks; (3) be excellent at reading people and determining hidden motives; and (4) never, ever gossip, because you WILL piss off the wrong person eventually.

    • @rasheedshaik77
      @rasheedshaik77 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You should have a career advice channel for the benefit of others ❤

    • @joanamondragoncasillas846
      @joanamondragoncasillas846 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😊😊😊😊

    • @DanPeal1
      @DanPeal1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Amen

  • @NewHandleCuzSheIsNosey
    @NewHandleCuzSheIsNosey ปีที่แล้ว +44

    It’s not obvious to me that there’s any actionable advice here, or am I missing it?

    • @tilllindemann7945
      @tilllindemann7945 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      buy the book 😂

    • @thesatsui
      @thesatsui ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's a sales pitch. He wants you to buy his book.
      Since you asked: learn to network with people in your company, especially with those that work where you want to be. Get a mentor to help coach you, and also vouch for you.

    • @rock801
      @rock801 ปีที่แล้ว

      Video is garbage, you sre right.
      The dude is telling something that means anything, thus says nothing.
      Unspoken rules are the next sales pitch myth like the hidden job market......something you can only target when you habe payed some phony dude too much money.
      Just because you or someone else got a job through some arbitrard connection does not mean such jobs are pooled somewhere for those few who can network their way into anyones circle of friends.
      Companies are often stages whereyoucan see the middle ages in action. Bosses try to get their favourite and loyal people a bonus. If you do not habe that boss youRe screwed.

  • @chibiusa
    @chibiusa ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Thanks for reminding us that minorities are outsiders, which is why we rarely get promoted. People who get promoted rarely ever have the skills to show for it. The middle managers and even the execs I've worked with lacked adequate communication skills to communicate clearly and directly with the people working under them, and yet, the company continued to run and succeed because of the intelligent, hard-working people at the bottom of the totem pole who are treated like trash.

    • @IIcultivatorII
      @IIcultivatorII ปีที่แล้ว

      They will actually hire minorities just to fill a spot instead of a non minority

  • @becomingabetterhuman.2994
    @becomingabetterhuman.2994 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is the same with building wealth "or what to do with the money you earn". I had to teach myself at age 36. I now I gide my younger brother. He is Miles past me when I was his age. I just taught him how to negotiate a wage "it worked" he got better pay and a new job. I look back and think my parents squandered their time here

    • @spectershore4482
      @spectershore4482 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where you from ? Me, France 🇨🇵🖐🏾

  • @GadgetsGearCoffee
    @GadgetsGearCoffee ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Honestly, it's usually putting in more work, overtime and going above and beyond.

  • @0AriesFire0
    @0AriesFire0 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    crazy you just posted this, in the process of the corporate recruiting process for the first time and the insider/outsider thing truly dawned on me recently

  • @jimmynoriega2671
    @jimmynoriega2671 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Consider watching this video at 2x speed. The speaker provides one vague piece of advice and extends it to cover a full six minutes. I wonder what reading his book would be like. It looks like ChatGPT will eventually replace the need for guru-like roles like this one. When you ask it, "What are the hidden rules of getting promoted?" you receive concise and actionable points in just a few paragraphs.

  • @ToonInvader
    @ToonInvader ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Happy to see that people dont take that massive BS seriously.

  • @JakeSmith-jy1kx
    @JakeSmith-jy1kx ปีที่แล้ว +10

    When I’ve gotten promotions, it’s been at times when I’ve flipped from doing my assigned tasks at an acceptable level to stepping back, looking at the situation, and then taking ownership of the business. That means I start doing my assigned work better and faster, with more care, and then I also find the unassigned areas that are lacking and take those on as well. If you can show that you can be a project manager by taking the initiative to do that planning while doing your regular work, your boss will notice. If you schedule meetings that matter and run them well, it will get noticed. If your data analysis goes beyond and actually presents itself, it will get noticed. It’s not complicated even if it is hard.

    • @MD-gk4uh
      @MD-gk4uh ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣
      Come back down in mud where most of us work and see how easy is to do that.
      “Scheduling meetings” …da-fak?!
      You have to first get promoted to the position where you have the authority to schedule anything at all much less “meetings” 🤦
      It’s like saying: living on the interest money from your investments is easy, you just take 10 million dollars and….. da-fak?!
      You are already in a position where you CAN advance from and a boss who is not gate keeping. When people complain about not being promoted it’s because they are NOT being rewarded for all the hard work they ARE ALREADY DOING you numb-nut.

  • @karllaur3866
    @karllaur3866 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Unspoken rule - be extroverted

    • @PS987654321PS
      @PS987654321PS ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No. But definitely don't be a weirdo introvert.

    • @chibiusa
      @chibiusa ปีที่แล้ว +8

      No, the unspoken rule is to spend a lot of time sucking up to higher ups instead of working hard.

  • @nobody983
    @nobody983 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    This is a Narcissist Manual. The 'unspoken rules' are just a fancy rebranding of the term, 'office politics'. The "insiders" are the Narcissists who do gatekeeping and set the toxic environment. You can easily follow these rules if you are already a Narcissist. In the end you would either become a Narcissist yourself or you would end up getting some kind of mental disorder (e.g., PTSD, cPTSD). Toxicity being taught on media, what a great time to be alive!

    • @helloes6236
      @helloes6236 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      as a person working in a corporate for a few years now, this is very accurate

    • @spectershore4482
      @spectershore4482 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where is the toxicity here ? I'm new in a senior position in the tech sector

  • @Tech875O
    @Tech875O ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This video made unbelievable sense to something that I've been frustrated with for a very long time.
    I came from the underprivileged class and have spent the majority of my life working hard and assuming that would be enough to get ahead, but as Mr Ng points out, that's simply not enough.
    There's a hidden language that needs to be understood in order to advance ones career, and this video does an amazing job at explaining that.

    • @manoftomorrow5987
      @manoftomorrow5987 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your race or background has nothing with it. Smfh. Everything is about race these days. You work hard but maybe not smart enough...if a task or your job is "always hard" you're not taking critical thinking enough (im talking about desk jobs). Find ways to improve the process and make suggestions to your manager...if its a repeat task and you find it hard, once completed review the steps in the process and find ways to simplify it.

    • @Tech875O
      @Tech875O ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @manoftomorrow5987 I didn't even bring up race in my comment, so not sure what you're getting at.

  • @jubyjoseph6332
    @jubyjoseph6332 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gorick got it right - Don't be useful, be impactful.

  • @nikhilc6580
    @nikhilc6580 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Please put the correct subtitle. Looks like the current subtitle is not related to this video.

  • @80lilala
    @80lilala 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    You spend the entire video waiting for him to get to the point...

    • @matthewmagda4971
      @matthewmagda4971 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Exactly. This was word salad with no real elaboration.

    • @Calle5ta
      @Calle5ta 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It's just a sales pitch for his book... Dislike!

  • @Munchausenification
    @Munchausenification ปีที่แล้ว +32

    There are for sure some things to learn here, but I think he is missing another "rule". In workplaces ive been in it was always the people who worked the slowest who got promoted, why? Well it means they make less mistakes and always higher on energy so it seems like he/she should be able to take on more responsibility.

  • @GaryofNivea
    @GaryofNivea 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The video is as useful as you'd expect anything lately associated with "Harvard" to be.

  • @artistsingerwriterproducer8288
    @artistsingerwriterproducer8288 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The truth is true! THAT EXIST FOR EVER

  • @bhiei
    @bhiei ปีที่แล้ว +6

    “Nearly a million men in the army, and it all came down to who liked who, pigeon holding starts on day one” Jack Reacher

    • @MD-gk4uh
      @MD-gk4uh ปีที่แล้ว

      Explain please. Non English speaker.

    • @bhiei
      @bhiei ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MD-gk4uh meaning, the army had many men. All starting in the same way, but someone identifies certain soldiers as being suited for better positions, training, etc and some aren’t. It starts on day one.

    • @MD-gk4uh
      @MD-gk4uh ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bhiei I see. Pigeon being symbolic for the young/inexperienced solders.
      Though I don’t think it works that way in RL but I get the sentiment.

  • @thanks600
    @thanks600 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oho, a variation of 5W+H framework.
    For promotion the easiest way is built reputation/visibility/optics & think a way to unseat your supervisor (e.g. the person get a promotion and leaving empty position).
    For perspective in navigating career, book “The McKinsey Way” might shed a little light. Career Mentors & Career Sponsors part might be important.

  • @YashSharma-zv8nu
    @YashSharma-zv8nu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Moral of the story - once a loser always a loser.
    How can one who's not got promoted even once can fulfill the hidden expectations of his/her seniors?
    Well, this video is a good ad for his book!

    • @beethao9380
      @beethao9380 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yep. Once again, nothing important offered here. Ass kissing and nepotism.

  • @lukepa151
    @lukepa151 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is this supposed to be a good thing? It just sounds like the people who get promoted are just the social people who have like interests as the boss. It’s as if being the best at your job is a small factor in a promotion. I’m I wrong?

  • @Rooted_Locs
    @Rooted_Locs ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Woah, I went to high school with Gorick, he was our valedictorian.

  • @andrewcayer3099
    @andrewcayer3099 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the same story we've had since HighSchool.
    If you do not stand out, you will be cast aside, abondoned, forgotten, never-used, never supported.
    Even if you do your work.
    And that's because the other suck ups are setting the standards for The Dream Of "The Boss".
    Try to sell it like advice, all you're saying is: cbe friendly and stay in the spot of attention."

  • @bcataiji
    @bcataiji ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Prove yourself among your co-workers as their superior when it comes to job performance. Your boss will recognize the natural hierarchy that has formed with you at the top.

  • @JoboVentures
    @JoboVentures ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The "useful" vs. "impactful" distinction hit home, thanks Gorick. And congrats on all the success with 'Unspoken Rules'!

  • @warrenchristianvision2314
    @warrenchristianvision2314 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thank you for this ad for chatgpt

  • @johnosam4681
    @johnosam4681 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is true, im also getting promotion that even i didnt know why😅 but i realize is about being scene, taking other tasks you are passionate about outside your original role, and coomunicate it to your manager. Be humble as well.

    • @beethao9380
      @beethao9380 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      simply no. you're privileged. you have horrible grammar.

  • @genghisrex
    @genghisrex ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I can relate to this. I was a case manager for a nonprofit clinic. I decided to do more what my job description required for me in order to get noticed for better internal jobs. This was for nothing because they hired other people not related to the job; they were connected to an insider, I was not connected to the top brass.

  • @mkanik6097
    @mkanik6097 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He is describing passive-aggressive communication, which is very toxic. The only reason I would read his book is to avoid such things.

  • @andrewgraziani4331
    @andrewgraziani4331 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Yah unwritten rules.
    Back in the day we called it something else, brown nosing and backstabbing.
    Defect blame, take credit for others work, never pass up a chance to make a co-worker look bad, show off when the boss is around.
    There's basically two people on any given work sight those who get the job done and those who get promoted.
    I'm not naive enough to not see this as the facts of life, but I do find it especially galling to see a best seller promoting this behavior.

    • @MD-gk4uh
      @MD-gk4uh ปีที่แล้ว

      THIS! 100 times THIS!
      Having lived in 3 countries across 2 continents and raised to “work hard, be humble and don’t ask for reward” I watched people doing all of the above in more or less visible manner until one person did it in such an obvious way that I thought there is no way higher ups would stop laughing much less promote him. Well, let’s just say I remember the time exactly when all my upbringing lessons came crashing down like a cartoon character three feet of the ledge still trying to peddle his feet.
      Being the outsider to the country itself and everything in it much less work environment and not having anyone to mentor me at all, I felt defeated beyond beliefs. Till than I still believed in capitalism and American dream. It died that day I finally couldn’t lie to myself any longer. All I ever got for my good work that everyone praised me for was more work, often left behind by those who got promoted while doing half what I did.
      It’s too late to change for me but I will pass those lessons to others, every chance I get.

    • @andrewgraziani4331
      @andrewgraziani4331 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MD-gk4uh Yah it's a bitter pill to swallow.

  • @yelbuck
    @yelbuck ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I can see why he's in academia, a great big word salad to say something very basic, generalised and all while time wasting. Oh well

  • @alessandrocasasso7299
    @alessandrocasasso7299 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I always thought that it's important to understand the big picture. It's something many people don't care about, saying "I do what I'm asked to do, period". Always look for the big picture, always focus on the need you satisfy with that task, and discuss how to do it the best way.

    • @beethao9380
      @beethao9380 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      simply no

  • @ddpwe5269
    @ddpwe5269 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    LOL the captions seem like they're from an entirely different video.

    • @Anonymoose66G
      @Anonymoose66G ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just checked that because of your comment 😂.

  • @myildizhan
    @myildizhan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your subtitles are different than the speach. Please correct them.

  • @ManifestMastery433
    @ManifestMastery433 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:24 Never forget this important thing, only when you have influence can you create change

  • @a.pourihosseini
    @a.pourihosseini ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh, why just get to the main point when you can repeat "the hook" for why your message is important over and over again until minute 5 of a 6 minute video, and then just give a brief list of bullet points that barely scratch the surface :/

  • @Zhiliang826
    @Zhiliang826 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is another book by richard Templar the rules of work. That was eye opening, checking out this one as well

  • @welovemaths9206
    @welovemaths9206 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So glad I came across this video. Below are my notes:
    There are unlimited hidden opportunities and rules around us where we can unlock opportunities and put ourselves on a path to building a fulfilling career.
    Knowing the hidden expectations of our new working environment can mean the difference between pulling late nights, doing the wrong work and redo all over again and doing it once and doing it well. It can mean the difference between being seen and recognised by the higher ups and being plucked for a high-profile opportunity and putting your head down waiting for that promotion that may never come.
    The key to mastering the unspoken rules is to navigate the hidden expectations of our new role.
    We'll be bombarded with task upon task. Many people will see these as items to check off a to-do list and toss back over the fence to a coworker or to a manager. But those who take ownership clarifies four things:
    1. Why - Why is this being assigned in the first place? What's the broader objective?
    2. What - What is the deliverable? Are you looking for bullet points in an email? Are you looking for a 10-page memo?
    3. How - How do you expect me to do this? Do you expect me to give you a long brainstorm? Do you expect me to go on the internet and look for some options? Do you expect me to solicit feedback from several coworkers?
    4. By when - By when do I need to get this done? At workplace, every time there's a formal deadline, there's actually an unspoken, hidden deadline.
    So asking the above questions can mean the difference between doing the right, doing it the right way, doing it on time and not.
    Being an other or an outsider is also a strength. We are bringing a lived experience, we are bringing a perspective. We're bringing ideas that other people may not have thought about before. What maybe uncomfortable to us is actually what this organisation this team, our teammates, desperately need. This isn't just about thriving, it's about contributing and it's about making an impact.

  • @gavinsenior4795
    @gavinsenior4795 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's not what you know but rather who you blow

  • @felipeReisfelipereis
    @felipeReisfelipereis ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The subtitles are wrong

  • @CreatorMatch
    @CreatorMatch ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video - I read Gorick's book also - awesome insight!

  • @Mossblac
    @Mossblac ปีที่แล้ว +27

    the lesson is : perpetuate the unspoken hierarchy. Maintain the status quo. This is how you keep minorities and people with disabilities from succeeding in life. this is genuinely horrible.

    • @gadohimself
      @gadohimself ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Please explain?

    • @GrantNelson1
      @GrantNelson1 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      "Nepotism (noun) The practice among those with power or influence of favoring relatives, friends, or associates, especially by giving them jobs." Right? This guy isn't wrong and is saying what has happened at every place I've worked, promotions go to friends of the managers. And that's why the people at the top of a lot of companies aren't team players (they throw their peers under a bus), they aren't skilled or talented, they just know how to be friends with the boss and the correct race, sexuality, religion, etc. for that boss. This why so many companies start out strong and then collapse as the very talented people who helped disrupt the market, revolutionized the product, and are great at their job but also happen to be shy, peer advocates, or just a little weird quit for never being recognized. Instead of teaching how nepotism works, I wish people would teach managers how to identify and keep talented diligent people to help build a better company.

  • @ryanbarker3978
    @ryanbarker3978 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    High school never actually ends

  • @gabs5552
    @gabs5552 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This looks, sounds, tastes and smells like some big bs, imagine i get 40 task per day, i can't ask every single time what is the purpose of all of them, and also most of the time no one gives a flying f what your opinions are, because managment is going to do it their way anyway.

  • @IIcultivatorII
    @IIcultivatorII ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s all about who you blow

  • @mtbrick
    @mtbrick ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this!

  • @dbwhab4150
    @dbwhab4150 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    So basically: do not be neurodivergent, be extroverted, have friends and in a company you are getting into... Sure lmao

  • @samuraijack1371
    @samuraijack1371 ปีที่แล้ว

    The idea that your life should revolve around your work and you have follow and master these “spoken” and “unspoken” rules so that you move up and have a “full filling “ career is just bogus!! It’s a fundamentally flawed concept that you fill find reward and satisfaction in your work and that more important work you get more fulfillment you will see.
    Work is just work. It’s just a part of life. Do your best but happiness/satisfaction doesn’t come from the reward but from the effort. It’s always the effort that’s the goal not reward. This is fundamentally different from chasing “promotion “ in the end only the business owner/investor wins and you have your life and vitality sucked out of you

  • @erroreliminator2.076
    @erroreliminator2.076 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just be your own boss, forget about working for corporations, especially large corporations.

  • @kkikkirikki
    @kkikkirikki ปีที่แล้ว

    The most important first step: Get your mental health checked first, perhaps there are some issues why you dont feel motivated/lack of energy/cant follow through...

  • @izzy706
    @izzy706 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this video.

  • @yoursandeep
    @yoursandeep 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    didn't here the rules atall here :) Are they unspoken as stated ?

  • @khainaga
    @khainaga ปีที่แล้ว

    If you didn't gain any understanding from the video, you're not only an outsider, you're unaware that you are.

  • @aduad
    @aduad ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Or just switch jobs every 2 years and forget about the office politics!

  • @InvalidPersistentName
    @InvalidPersistentName ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved the video!

  • @Vordulin
    @Vordulin ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This guy made a career out of re-describing "It's not what you know, it's who you know." What a joke.

  • @anuhatesupma
    @anuhatesupma 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    can anyone help me find this book for free online?

  • @cusodha1
    @cusodha1 ปีที่แล้ว

    in short give your 50% extra. That includes to every aspect of the company and the boss.

  • @richardportelli1983
    @richardportelli1983 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great tips

  • @williamleiva9147
    @williamleiva9147 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don’t work for big companies, take your own path

  • @aemser7080
    @aemser7080 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wh questions, that's all? I don't think it's just that. You are supposed to understand the hidden rules without anyone explicitly telling you, within their agreeable time span. Understanding the bigger picture comes at a cost of having others involved in your enlightenment, doing trial and error that the company cannot afford, and dealing with blames and conflicts. Something should have been included in the video about this.

  • @selocan469
    @selocan469 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh boy, Nonsense. Whole promotion processed can be summarized to "PR and market yourself smartly (while doing the formal work as least as possible of course but PR it to be overperformed as well)". Do not give me the " do not miss the opportunities BS". If you do not constantly lobby, opportunities are already unavailable to you, and if you do constantly lobby, you will only clash with other lobbyers for the promotion but winner is generally decided by your lobby history/performance relative to your competitors beforehand which is the case for most low to mid manager positions. Main winning point of a lobby is simple... who win the hearth of the person who have the say for who is promoted to the target position. Other cases are just exception, since the person who have say is an exception himself/herself.

  • @OverlordShanbo
    @OverlordShanbo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro needed a Harvard degree to figure out that your management is a clique and you have to achieve their goals as well as your own to get noticed.

  • @onsarpong575
    @onsarpong575 ปีที่แล้ว

    And I noticed that when he started talking about “other”, the image was the African descent woman 😂😂😂.
    Also, don’t worry about “getting ahead”. No need. Look at our world. Enjoy your life.

  • @quartytypo
    @quartytypo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cut the boss's lawn on Saturday.

  • @vannibombonato4180
    @vannibombonato4180 ปีที่แล้ว

    All correct. It’s called office politics.

  • @miriamschiro8585
    @miriamschiro8585 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don’t thrive, contribute. 👍🏼

  • @ekingsley7330
    @ekingsley7330 ปีที่แล้ว

    These are tangible tips base on a person having a fair playground and favouritism , halo effects, gender bias is at absolute minimum. Choose your team wisely, who you work with means a LOT ! On top of that , apply some rules of how you carry out the work.

  • @MGW2610
    @MGW2610 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If the hidden expectation is to please the boss, then is it worth doing it?

    • @MD-gk4uh
      @MD-gk4uh ปีที่แล้ว

      That depends on the boss and her expectation.
      If she is super HOT and pleasuring her please her, it definitely worth it 😆

    • @JakeSmith-jy1kx
      @JakeSmith-jy1kx ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes! Bosses generally have better perspective on what the company needs.

  • @mattjanachek
    @mattjanachek 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    TLDR: Get promoted by asking WHAT WHY WHEN for tasks that come your way. I want my minutes back.

  • @dim._.
    @dim._. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Big Think, pls turn auto-subtitels ON in your Videos

  • @miriamschiro8585
    @miriamschiro8585 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hidden expectations: There are rules in one’s work place your employer never spoken to you but expect from you.
    Learning what that may be can help you advance to a higher level at your job.

  • @dramastudiobordeaux8058
    @dramastudiobordeaux8058 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A Harvard Career Coach's advice for getting promoted: Go to Harvard.

  • @360.Tapestry
    @360.Tapestry ปีที่แล้ว

    when the student is ready, the teacher will appear
    aka if you don't get it, you not ready, cuz

  • @higherwesoarsmallerweappea8507
    @higherwesoarsmallerweappea8507 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've given up on promotion... Instead of climbing corporate ladder,,, these 6 years, this is what I am doing to increase my pay
    2017: Worked around 10 hours a day..they didn't increase my salary.. so next year.....
    2018: Worked around 9 hours a day..no salary increase, but increasing "hourly wage" due to shorter working hours
    2019: Worked around 10 hours a day,, but for 2 companies,, so I got "salary increase" because 2 companies paid me
    and repeated same formula after that
    2020: Salary increased again. Worked around 10 hours a day,, for 3 companies
    2021: Salary increased again. Worked around 10 hours a day,, for 4 companies
    2022-2023: Salary increased again. Worked around 10 hours a day,, for 4-5 companies

  • @casualamber
    @casualamber ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Contributing and making an impact… “why? What? How? When?”… you forgot “who?”…
    Wait… am I an insider?
    I don’t quit on what I love doing, but I let others know subconsciously that I won’t take any BS. As for soliciting ideas, I only speak up when it is warranted.

  • @MachusPichusAmigo
    @MachusPichusAmigo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Aka how to become one of those fake work only meetings coworkers

  • @gargigingerly
    @gargigingerly ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This could have been a smaller video…

    • @miriamschiro8585
      @miriamschiro8585 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmmm is that a sarcastic question lol

    • @frodinhoTSN
      @frodinhoTSN ปีที่แล้ว

      Education and the art of teaching isn't and shouldn't be straightforward, there are some subjects that seem simple and quick, but are easily forgotten for that very same reason.
      I agree and understand that what has been said in the video could have been said in a few less minutes, but those "extra" minutes are for ensuring, even if just a little, that what has been said stays for more people!
      At least that's my take on it.

    • @greorbowlfinder7078
      @greorbowlfinder7078 ปีที่แล้ว

      Harvard graduates make everything bigger than it is.

    • @kaitlync.2628
      @kaitlync.2628 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Otter pic twins!

  • @ShinjukuBoy
    @ShinjukuBoy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In other words, become a likeable person and play ball 😂