My bike needed this. I left the TB in and just cleaned it in place, but between that and cleaning the air filter it made a big difference in how it runs down low. Starts even easier too. Thanks for the reminder.
I didn't change my filter either day, it wouldn't idle at all Sunday and wouldn't start when I got home. Thanks for the video, I've never taken mine apart but maybe I will now
Good informative video thank you, I have a Jaime busto I bought it used I believe it's a 2021, how many hours on your bike before you had to clean this? Also, what is your gas to oil mixture? I'm using 130 to 1 Which is 0.98 oz oil to 1 gallon fuel
120-1 with regular pump gas - 93 octane. It only had 20 hours, but the event was wicked dry and dusty. It was totally clean prior to that event for 1st 17 hours of ownership and the last 10 I've put on since. All depends on where you ride and the conditions. When you change air filter next, just look in there with flashlight with throttle open to check it.
@@miro_s I , depsite using filter rim grease around sealing areas and plenty of filter oil in filter, still got some dust buuld up on my KTM and needed tp clean the carb once a year too. I also had the same issues on my 2019 Scorpa 300 Factory, 2016 Scorpa 300, and my Beta... heck as much as I liked my Beta that filter was always dirty and needing clean, and yes again there was still dust in its carb too, despite weekly cleanings. Never liked seeing it on any motorcycle, but it happens. This is a simple job and can be done in 30 minutes or so. One thing I have found that helps on the Vertigo design is added a small amount of filter oil, or preferably filter grease, to the sealing angle on the airfilter cage where it engages with the intake manifold. I also use a TINY bit where the manifold slips over the TB. This helps reinforce the sealing in those areas. I got my Vertigo in 2020. Having test ridden most other brands, having owned a few sherco/scorpas and a Beta and now my Vertigo.... I wouldnt personally go back to a carb. My wife liked my Vertigo so much she got one of her own as well. Now that said if you know carbs really well and dont have any desire to learn something new( and most likely were other brands are heading too in the next few years) stick with a carbed bike as long as you can. Most of us all know how to adjust a carb and how to trouble shoot the old bikes easily enough. I really do like efi, i like my bike running consistently no matter the weather, I like the way EFI feels compared to a carb when it comes to power delivery. Getting on the Vertigo it wasnt something I noticed, but going back to a carb it was something I instantly noticed was missing, and was missed. Anyway to each their own, all the modern bikes are pretty freaking killer 🙂
@@shawnmcginnis2508 thanks a lot for the kind reply. I’m definitely not against injection, on the contrary. I was just referring to how laborious it looks to remove the throttle body on the vertigo vs the carb on a simpler bike (eg my very old sherco st). Anyway I’m mulling over a 22 nitro 300 and a 21 gasgas txt 250 and can’t make up my mind 🤷♂️. From what you write I suppose you’d go for the nitro…
@@miro_s that depends on location, ,attitude ( not ment in an offensive way), and what you value performance wise. If you're close to a vertigo dealer I'd pick Vertigo. If you arent, the newer GasGas are really nice bikes, heck even the older ones I've ridden are great. Short explination. 2021 (R3 and older Vertigo and personally I'd only reccomend a 2020-2021 R2,R3, or DL or 2024 and newer) due to tps resetablity. The 2024 "factory" lets you reset the tps on your own and should be that way on all their bikes going forward. 2017-2021 you can get the wifi unit and do the same. Inbetween would be dealer only and thats a no go for me as I live in northern Indiana and there's nobody around here. I can only say I love my R2 300 and my wife loves her R2 250. Like any brand there are some flaws, but for me, what they offer is worth the trade off for their particuar flaws. Ymmv... If you'd like to know more about what I'ce experience with mine I'd he happy to share in more detial..otherwise best of luck and I hope you really enjoy whatever your next bike is 🙂
That's a worrying amount of dirt getting past the filter. I'd double check your filter oiling procedures. It also seems like the air filter just pushes into the intake hose without a clamp? Seems like prime place for dust to enter.
@@TrialsProgression I have owned 3 vertigos. Ran same ratio with vp t4. Nothing else compared! No lead or nasty stuff. My vertigo’s always felt inconsistent with pump gas. Was always worth the cost.
@@CRFfmxR I don't feel like I need the oxygenate of the T4, so run C9 or their specific trials fuel. I like unleaded, ethanol free, consistent and highly-refined fuel.
Great video Tom. Good lighting, logical progression, simple to follow.
Thank you👍
My bike needed this. I left the TB in and just cleaned it in place, but between that and cleaning the air filter it made a big difference in how it runs down low. Starts even easier too. Thanks for the reminder.
Great to hear
I didn't change my filter either day, it wouldn't idle at all Sunday and wouldn't start when I got home. Thanks for the video, I've never taken mine apart but maybe I will now
Bingo! 💯
I made this video for you then. Hard to believe this knowledge isn't already out there.
Excellent video! ! ! Very well filmed and organized !
Thanks Shawn
Good informative video thank you, I have a Jaime busto I bought it used I believe it's a 2021, how many hours on your bike before you had to clean this? Also, what is your gas to oil mixture? I'm using 130 to 1
Which is 0.98 oz oil to 1 gallon fuel
120-1 with regular pump gas - 93 octane.
It only had 20 hours, but the event was wicked dry and dusty. It was totally clean prior to that event for 1st 17 hours of ownership and the last 10 I've put on since. All depends on where you ride and the conditions. When you change air filter next, just look in there with flashlight with throttle open to check it.
Considering to buy a 2022 nitro, this doesn’t encourage me, makes me think of the simplicity of carbs, no elect, no frills bikes…
@@miro_s I , depsite using filter rim grease around sealing areas and plenty of filter oil in filter, still got some dust buuld up on my KTM and needed tp clean the carb once a year too. I also had the same issues on my 2019 Scorpa 300 Factory, 2016 Scorpa 300, and my Beta... heck as much as I liked my Beta that filter was always dirty and needing clean, and yes again there was still dust in its carb too, despite weekly cleanings. Never liked seeing it on any motorcycle, but it happens.
This is a simple job and can be done in 30 minutes or so. One thing I have found that helps on the Vertigo design is added a small amount of filter oil, or preferably filter grease, to the sealing angle on the airfilter cage where it engages with the intake manifold. I also use a TINY bit where the manifold slips over the TB. This helps reinforce the sealing in those areas.
I got my Vertigo in 2020. Having test ridden most other brands, having owned a few sherco/scorpas and a Beta and now my Vertigo.... I wouldnt personally go back to a carb. My wife liked my Vertigo so much she got one of her own as well. Now that said if you know carbs really well and dont have any desire to learn something new( and most likely were other brands are heading too in the next few years) stick with a carbed bike as long as you can. Most of us all know how to adjust a carb and how to trouble shoot the old bikes easily enough. I really do like efi, i like my bike running consistently no matter the weather, I like the way EFI feels compared to a carb when it comes to power delivery. Getting on the Vertigo it wasnt something I noticed, but going back to a carb it was something I instantly noticed was missing, and was missed.
Anyway to each their own, all the modern bikes are pretty freaking killer 🙂
@@shawnmcginnis2508 thanks a lot for the kind reply. I’m definitely not against injection, on the contrary. I was just referring to how laborious it looks to remove the throttle body on the vertigo vs the carb on a simpler bike (eg my very old sherco st). Anyway I’m mulling over a 22 nitro 300 and a 21 gasgas txt 250 and can’t make up my mind 🤷♂️. From what you write I suppose you’d go for the nitro…
@@miro_s that depends on location, ,attitude ( not ment in an offensive way), and what you value performance wise.
If you're close to a vertigo dealer I'd pick Vertigo. If you arent, the newer GasGas are really nice bikes, heck even the older ones I've ridden are great.
Short explination. 2021 (R3 and older Vertigo and personally I'd only reccomend a 2020-2021 R2,R3, or DL or 2024 and newer) due to tps resetablity. The 2024 "factory" lets you reset the tps on your own and should be that way on all their bikes going forward. 2017-2021 you can get the wifi unit and do the same. Inbetween would be dealer only and thats a no go for me as I live in northern Indiana and there's nobody around here.
I can only say I love my R2 300 and my wife loves her R2 250. Like any brand there are some flaws, but for me, what they offer is worth the trade off for their particuar flaws. Ymmv...
If you'd like to know more about what I'ce experience with mine I'd he happy to share in more detial..otherwise best of luck and I hope you really enjoy whatever your next bike is 🙂
Try working on a mid 00s carbed scorpa. I'll take a montesa any day
That's a worrying amount of dirt getting past the filter. I'd double check your filter oiling procedures. It also seems like the air filter just pushes into the intake hose without a clamp? Seems like prime place for dust to enter.
There's an o ring on the ail filter and it's a very snug fit. Slightly oiled for ease of insertion.
@@TrialsProgression Got it, thanks for the info 👍
What fuel do you run
120-1 with GRO 2 stroke mix with pump gas octane 93
@@TrialsProgression I have owned 3 vertigos. Ran same ratio with vp t4. Nothing else compared! No lead or nasty stuff. My vertigo’s always felt inconsistent with pump gas. Was always worth the cost.
@@CRFfmxR I don't feel like I need the oxygenate of the T4, so run C9 or their specific trials fuel. I like unleaded, ethanol free, consistent and highly-refined fuel.
@@TrialsProgressiontry running a leaner mixture 130 to 1
Run VP ts2
Your air filter doesn't look very blue, check you oil it enough after cleaning.
I didn't have the blue spray yet. Was running another brand. Have it now though. Thanks