Someone else said this but these “hell testimonies” and “NDEs” really scared me years ago when I was a babe in Christ. After all of those “biblical prophecies” surrounding the 2020, I learned to flee from these things.
Same. The fact is, you need God's word, NOT NDEs. It disturbs me how people actually take NDEs seriously. These people almost always believe in works salvation.
He will hear the most frightening words in the Bible "depart from Me ye who work iniquity for I never knew you" unless he believes God’s testimony concerning His Son that He gives ETERNAL LIFE to all who trust in Christ ALONE as savior per 1st John 5:9-13. He believes his salvation depends on HIM & HIS "enduring to the end" and not in Christ alone. Good job bro Ono!
Sealed at the moment of believing in Jesus. How many people fully 100% believe in Jesus and his blood he shed for us for salvation and then stop believing it’s faith plus nothing. Those people my have stoped believing but they are still sealed. If at some point in his life he believed in his heart Jesus saved him and not of his works he will not hear those frightening words. I think this guy was persuaded by the devil to convince others it’s about their works. The devil my not have gotten him but he hopes to get others
@@appointedaday there is a difference in justification and rewards. John 3:16 is believing not believing plus. John 6:28,29 Jesus says Gods work for us is to believe in the one he has sent not believe plus. The people that believe faith plus nothing, our judgment will be at the Bema seat of Christ. It’s a judgment of our good works. It’s not for God to decide salvation or not salvation. We should do good works but that can’t save us as mentioned in Ephesians 2:8,9. God wants us to be certain we are saved. If it was Jesus plus our works what is the measurement on what we can measure our good works on for salvation. James 2:10 says For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. You are not co savior. I really hope you consider this and put your trust in Jesus alone. It’s Jesus blood that saves and his finished work on the cross
I still pray that Heavenly Father has mercy and gives grace to this person,however,His will be done,amen. We are taught to forgive and pray for our enemies.
He’s calling God a liar as it’s says no one can pluck them from my father’s hands and I shall lose none This Epusion apologetics is a fraud the demons spoke to him because a person can never lose their salvation dude is twisted
Something that I notice is satan asked Jesus to throw himself off a cliff. I also believe there are spirits that can mimic God's voice to get people to believe a works based salvation. Paul said if we or an angel from heaven preach another gospel, let him be accursed.
You totally can still sin even as a saved individual, fact is the Holy Spirit will convict you very badly lol❤ faith alone, OSAS, AMEN❤@@ShelahBenJudah
How do you know you've heard the right gospel? Because that's what everyone says and believes? I've got a list of at least 50 books that claim the Gospel is written in the stars, not in Jerusalem... I can lead you to the pool of Siloam, and that the Constellation Auriga is the exact same image, but it was in the sky long before it was outside the city of Jerusalem.
So crazy how ppl think the holy spirit left them… I remember on my moms death bed she said it feels like god left me… I said no mom even if we go through all of these things in life God will never leave us and we have eternal life… that’s something we always are grateful for and she said you know what your right my girl…
Ever since I found your videos along with a few others that preach the same gospel you do..I’ve been so at peace…I believe the scriptures and I’ve changed my mind set to put my faith in Jesus and Jesus alone…I trust what he did to get me to heaven and I believe he died for ALL my sins was buried and rose again on the third day and ever since I thought like that I knew I was saved..I’m only a 16 year old girl..I’m so excited for the Holy Spirit to lead and guide me..thank you so much💕💕!!
@@joseurbina4648 I watch Jack smack 77 and sniffing out pharisees they all really help me understand the Bible a lot more and they don’t preach a work based salvation
@@debbiemercer2889 It's was just crazy to hear this dreamer go on and on like that, just ta fibbing. I was totally embarrassed for this dreamer, just blathering nonsense. Just shameful. 🫣
@debbiemercer2889 When people are constantly claiming to have dreams and visions, blatantly making it up.. They are definitely grieving His Holy Spirit.
It’s so easy for babes and truth-seeking individuals to get caught up in every wind of doctrine. Having a solid foundation in the rock will protect us from being led astray. We have to know that Christ is our foundation and put our faith in what he said. We are saved by believing in him alone apart from works and he will no wise cast out anyone who comes to him.
Amen to that. Gotta put on the full armor of God I.e., sound doctrine. Many Doctrinal error minefields out there especially ones that regards to salvation.
Yes 👍🏾 when reading the Bible the foundation of salvation has to be there otherwise this happens. Also reading the gospel or focusing on passages which support the gospel and the sacrifice of Christ help. Also reading what it means to now be a child of God once you have been saved I.e. your new identity
I got led astray into believing that one could lose their salvation, about a year or two after I got saved. Dan Corner was the reason. I was not as educated in the word and had less knowledge, that what he presented appeared to support conditional salvation. I believed this viewpoint that we lose our salvation if we get into a pattern of sin, and I believed it for almost seven years. I also got carried away from correct doctrine when my chiropractor, a Pentecostal, gave me an Andrew Wommack CD during a time I was suffering with immense neurological problems after a car accident. The CD had Wommack talking about speaking things into existence by commanding things, in Jesus name, to happen. I was unaware that it had to be according to God's will. Both of these points (believing that one could lose their salvation, and believing that one could always speak things into existence) actually caused fear in me, caused me to doubt my salvation when I would sin, and it discouraged me greatly when the maladies I had been suffering with weren't subsiding even though I had been commanding things. In addition to the injuries I had sustained from a car accident, I later had covid twice. One time it went to pneumonia and it took about two months to fully recover from. However, two months after covid (the first time), I started having short term memory problems. Basically, covid seems to have taken advantage of my previous brain injury sustained in the accident, and it attacked what was vulnerable, my brain. It caused me to have focal seizures, which was making it hard to concentrate and causing me to not remember things. I got so angry one night by having trouble processing information, that I yelled out in anger to God regarding my situation, fuming because I was led to believe that whatever we ask for we were to receive, yet my medical conditions were only getting worse. After yelling out against God, I felt conviction, and since I still believed that one could lose their salvation, I was extremely fearful. It caused me to get into the Word more than I ever had. In doing so, it calmed my nerves, and I reclaimed the belief on unconditional salvation. I learned about predestination, and I have become a more learned person in the Bible. The fear of going to Hell has gone away. I know that I am secure in the Lord. This led me to think about the verse that says that God causes all things to work for the good of those in Christ Jesus who are called according to his purpose. It made me realize, that even though I had been suffering, God used it to bring about a better change in my faith and to cast out the fear. I still struggle with neurological issues (I have for almost ten years), but with medication the memory problems have much improved. Just thought that my story could be of use to someone.
What is the difference between believing and trusting him and cominh to him. Rather what did he mean come unto me? Is that the same as believing him fully?
It's good to see you addressing this guy. I once tried to reason with him on his channels comment section. I asked him, when Jesus declared the woman saved by her faith in Luke 7:50, why did Jesus not tell her about any of this extra works based burden she should live up to in order to stay saved, or was Jesus just lying when he declared her saved. Never got a straight answer, he mostly just kept replying with links to his other videos, where he just keeps twisting the scripture even further. Since he was so stubborn and impossible to reason with, I had to tell him finally that I don't even feel bad for him since he is so unrelenting, but I feel for those that he is misleading.
I ran into this guys channel before I knew about the gospel but we went back and forth. He brought up scripture that of course was taken wayyyy out of context its amazing what these religious people do to defend their pride
@@feline501 Dont ever doubt your salvation if you have placed your trust on the finished redemptive work of Christ! Remember there is nothing more powerful than his shed blood. I didnt really have a dramatic salvation “event” either and honestly im not sure when but I know it was this brother who saved me because I thought I trusted in Jesus alone but was saying someone is saved if they are “transformed”. Thank you Jesus for salvation. God bless you brother/sister
Why oh why is he doing this, saying these things? Do he actually think that anyone would believe these things he's allowing to come out of his mouth? 😒
I think maybe it's because the devil it's very subtle and smart he can deceive the masses with false testimonies of hell on other things as well that's why we shouldn't follow Jesus just because one man testimony we should follow him primarily because of his word and his love. @@BibleTumper
If I had to choose between the nonsensical ramblings of some legalistic nutcase and the divine word of the loving graceful Lord, I choose to take the divine word.
I really appreciate your videos, makes me want to get into the Word more. I never had such a dramatic salvation experience and that makes me feel like I'm not saved whenever somebody tells their experience like that. But I know I am saved and Jesus is my foundation, forever. Regardless of what somebody else says.
I met Jesus myself in a dream or vision before. He told me only one thing..... "Have Faith" that was all I needed! Edit: The bible says we are saved by faith alone.
Faith alone in Jesus includes everything He has said. And you say that you don't have to do anything. You obviously don't believe in faith in Jesus alone, because you run your life based on your thoughts, some of the world's ways, when you are supposed to run it on every word that proceeds from the mouth of God. See how you condemn yourself by denying Christ?
@@michaelalbertson7457 I don't know what you are trying to get at. I have Faith in Jesus Christ and what he did for me on the cross. I don't have to do anything. All works are done through Holy Spirit. We can't do nothing of ourselves.
The Gospel! (Good news)✨ [1 Corinthians 15:1-4] Jesus Christ shed his blood for all of our sins, past, present and future. He was buried and rose again on the third day, according to the scriptures. We are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ Alone, not of our works, so nobody can boast. It is amazing grace, something we did not and cannot earn, and something we do not deserve. God gave His only begotten (created) son that whosoever (anyone) believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. How do you come to that? 1. Admit your a sinner in need of Jesus Christ. 2. The moment you put your faith and trust in Jesus Christ alone to save you from death, you are sealed until the day of redemption (you cannot lose your salvation) You are protected, justified by the blood of Christ, and rapture ready! (Which is going to happen at any moment) 3. The Holy Spirit will indwell in you, lead you, guide you, minister to you, encourage you, speak to you, teach you, and change you. TODAY is the day of salvation! Trust Jesus Christ today! Amen and God Bless❤️
Pay attention folks. This is probably the most clearcut unreserved message you'll ever hear on this subject. So many, yes even some believers are easily bamboozled by this sort of "I got a special message from God" testimony.
“Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.” 1 Corinthians 13:8-10 KJV
Right before I started having sleep paralysis, beings of light would visit me. Those beings of light were not good as I found out years later. Only the word of God is what you should listen to, he had it written sown for all of us the read for ourselves. Calling on the name of Jesus and believing in his words made all the things of the dark go away.
Noticed how he said at the very beginning, "I was born again because I confessed Jesus as my Lord". He never said, "I trusted Christ as my savior". Jesus told Nicodemus in John 3:16 how one in born again. And it doesn't say anything about confessing Jesus as your Lord. We all know what it says.
Thanks for the information. I have had similar experiences and then drawn similar conclusions as the man in this video. You have helped me to gain some clarity back after getting lost in that way of thinking. Glad to have come across your channel, appreciate what you’re doing.
@@Galatians-vr8xdhe seems to not preach about Hebrews 6:4-6 which is clear that you can lose salvation. And it’ll be impossible to come back to it. Read that verse carefully. Also this guy never mentioned acts 2:17
@danielcercel1665 That verse in Hebrews refers to people returning back to animal sacrifices once enlightened to Christ, Instead of moving forward in grace and maturity of spirit. There's no other sacrifice that will suffice the forgiveness of sins to be justified in Gods eyes anymore after Jesus Christ as the audience at the time were believers but were tempted to go back to the old ways. Acts 2:17 refers to those who repent, Eternal security in Christ is Biblical.
Wow Jeremiah is one book I have lacked reading in and never knew it has this whole topic of dreams covered! Thanks for this teaching! Let Gods Word be true and every man a liar!
Most of the time (with a few exceptions) dreams are simply the subconscious mind communicating with the concious mind. Whatever thoughts, convictions or moods you're going through will manifest as symbolic imagery in your sleep. For example, a saved Christian who feels guilty over their sin might dream about going to hell. It's not true, but the saved Christian FEELS hellbound. I mean, I once had a dream about God telling believers to go aboard an alien spaceship that was on its way to heaven. Using that as a message from God would be silly.
The bible never says you'll have NDE's in the end times, it speaks of heresy and deception in the end times. Just believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved. Jesus Christ (The Eternally Existing Son of God in flesh, God The Son, Savior, Christ) died on the cross shedding his blood for all our sins, was buried, rose again the 3rd day! By believing the gospel, you have eternal life, saved forever, sealed, eternally secured, promised to never be blotted out of book of life, always in the book of life! Eternal Life is forever, not conditional! :D
Acts 2:17 New King James Version ‘And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God, That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your young men shall see visions, Your old men shall dream dreams.
@@ZacharyLittle777 the bible doesn’t mention NDE. Could he have had a vision of what his fate was if he did not change? I know someone who also found themselves going to a very dark place after her heart stopped in hospital. She felt the darkness and severe fear until she heard a voice behind her to call out the name of Jesus and promised she’d change if He gave her another chance and warn others of hell. She was not walking with the Lord, but was a lukewarm Christian at the time. She has papers to prove she died in hospital. Sometimes it’s not their time to go or perhaps Jesus in His great mercy uses them to inform others how serious we are to be. We need to be worthy to enter His kingdom. Remember God kicked Adam and Eve out for just ONE sin. She has become a completely different person. She’s changed churches, speaks in tongues and serves the Lord with all her heart. God bless 🙏
@@ZacharyLittle777 Paul talks about the man who was taken up to heaven and saw marvelous things. But it is "not lawful" to speak of such things. I've heard it argued that it actually means that what he saw was inexpressibly good. My bro had an NDE, he was blue, not breathing, no heartbeat, taken to hospital, adrenaline & electric paddles applied, nothing worked. I prayed for him--guess what? The emergency methods started working. Heart started, breathing machine for a little while--then he started breathing on his own after a little while. Out in a day or two after coming in dead. He mentioned at some point a little later, he did have an NDE, but he wasn't saying a word about it. He never did. His life changed though, for the better, not that it was bad before. Going up to heaven in spirit is what NDE speakers talk about, and the Bible talks about it. And the Bible says don't talk about it. That some people do, might be allowed to confirm that they do happen. God allows all sorts of things to happen, that aren't right. Such as martyrdom, it's wrong to kill someone for preaching the Gospel.
The guy is lost.. still. Call God a liar and questioning “ why ME?” Like he is someone superior. So much was wrong with what he was saying. I say why me?… why is God so loving, why is He so patient with me, why did He come for me at my lowest? Should be dead but God saved my life, He changed my life and once I learned the truth, He gave me eternal life. I will never deny Him.
Yeah it's crazy, his talking got me boiling, how can he think god gets involved with someone (him) knowing he will be lost in the end possibly, so much wrong with what he said, if God comes into a person's life that person is saved!! God does not waste his time.
One of the clearest parts of the Gospel for me is the thief on the Cross who was saved by believing in Jesus without being able to do works as he was hanging on the cross. "And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise."
Thankyou Onorato . Im growing by the day . The holy spirit grounding me in understanding the simplicity of the gospel. Bless you my fellow saint in Christ ✝️✝️
I always believed in eternal security. Great to hear you clarify it for others who may see this video & be misled. You remind me of the disciples in Christ's day when they were steering people back to the truth of God's Word as opposed to false teaching such as this.
For people who believe you can lose your salvation I would ask them "What do you think God's doing, plucking daisy petals like I saved them/I saved them not? If so, you better hope God pulls an I saved them petal at your last breath! But Jesus said "None the Father has given me can be plucked from my hand".
i agree i have had dreams but they match scripture and if they don't they need to test the spirits and need to find a dream interrupter and this person doesn't understand the scripture its clear you cant lose your salvation it's sad im going to pray for him
I gave this man scripture on his TH-cam channel explaining why I am not willing to make doctrine out of his experience that is totally unbiblical, and he had my comment removed. We went back and fourth for a bit and ultimately he had no answer, so he removed my comment all together.
@@toddstarkey6820 Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Additionally…it’s ludicrous: how many sins must one commit to “lose” the spirit? What sorts? Okay so I lose my salvation on Monday, how many days until I can re-obtain? Is there a limit on the spirit’s comings and going? A lifetime cap? May these false gospel adherents be accursed!
Bro, the spirit would come and go ALL THE TIME in the OT. See Saul, Samson, David fearing it would happen. If we are in a better covenant built in better promises now how in heck can we be in the same situation as the OT?? We can’t. The spirit is sealed in all believers- a deposit guaranteeing and inheritance. Not intimating an inheritance. Guaranteeing it. Read up novice.
@@goblintownwhen Jesus was on earth, he taught from the Old Testament. Matter of fact New Testament was written years after he left. Also he said that he was here to fulfill the law and prophets (old testament), not do away with it. HE said it not me.
That’s correct. The Holy Spirit was neither sealing nor indwelling believers during the time of Jesus’ earthly ministry, which was still technically OT.
When I was crying out to God in desperation as a new Christian if salvation was by faith alone or by works, He literally showed me supernaturally, through a 100 year old dictionary that salvation was by FAITH ALONE. I have the video on my channel, it's amazing what God can do if you're just humble and willing to listen.
@@fightingwithtruth1698 Yeah, I bought his book many years ago and one of the worst purchasing choices I ever made. Complete tosh that contradicts the Scriptures on so many levels and either a whopper of a tall tale or a strong delusion given by a lying spirit. LIke all the Hell and back trippers I've come across, he's not sound on the Gospel and plugging a faith plus works false scheme of righteousness. That book has since ended up ripped to shreds and chucked in the trash. Best place for it. Mary K. Baxter is another one to be well marked and avoided. Her and Weise seemed to kick off a craze amongst the whackjob wing of the pentecostals and charismatics where they're trying to outdo one another with whose experience is the most lurid and horrific. It sure cast those 2 into the limelight and made them a good few bucks into the bargain through merchandise sales and appearance fees. Why I'm inclined to take the view that they are deliberate deceivers. When this is combined with a fake Gospel by people who have never been saved by faith alone in Christ alone, a very dangerous position indeed to be in. Telling lies in the name of the Lord for self-aggrandisement and/or financial gain can result in God hardening their heart and giving them over to a reprobate mind where their damnation is definite (2 Perter 2:1-3).
Amen, and let us pray the man in the video stops moving on subjective feelings and begins to trust in the finished work of Christ for his eternal salvation!
Yeah God’s word over these experiences and dreams of other people. Abraham told the rich man in torments that his five brethren had Moses and the prophets. If they hear not the Moses and the prophets, they will not be persuaded even if one rose from the dead. The key here is to trust God’s word over man’s experiences and dreams. Most important of all is to be believe the one true gospel of grace- 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
It was not the Holy Spirit that he felt leaving, it was his self righteous and religious spirit leaving on the backdrop of that humiliating situation of him being out of control. He could have been saved at that moment, realising he's a sinner who needs Jesus, but he chose pushing further his own works and merits. I often wonder how longsuffering and patient is God seeing so many mocking His heart towards man and His grace towards mankind.
I am actually tired of hearing people tell me you can lose your salvation, many Christians have had opinions about my salvation. I did not grow up in a Church, my walk has been primarily in the Word. Started there, and will end there. Im no expert but it makes absolutely no sense why or how you could loose something God gave to you through the brutal death of His son, Jesus-our saviour.
of all my time in pursuing God he showed up the most and without question when i read the word without bias but rather an earnest desire to obtain the truth
Amen man people need to know this and stay away from the God told me people. Theres a difference between them seeing signs and saying their from God cause there are no coincidences. Mainly speaking on the people that claim he straight up told them this or that and usually it's unbiblical and they give you a scripture that is pulled out of context...... Them people
Superly good! Tx.! So many (more) people (suddenly) popping up with testimonies around dreams, NDE's and visions. Dreams can be so vivid, but I find them mostly messy and confusing. Great as a stress reliever at times, but again, mostly adds to my stress as many of them affect my emotions more than anything else. I did have two dreams (ever) that were unique though. First one was five seconds long of myself looking up at the moon and then suddenly it (partially, I see only the first second of the event) explodes. Very vivid and great colours! Not upsetting somehow.. Second one was just recent. I'm staring out into the heavens as if I am suspended in open space (there was nothing but darkness), and I sense the Lord's presence next to me. I 'hear' an answer to what seems to be a question in my mind (nothing was audible) -I 'hear': Yes, Israel and all the nations will all rule over their own in the heavens. -Seemed like I had this question in my mind as to whether the nations would all still exist in the new heavens and earth into eternity. I suppose I have this issue with keeping me, me, in the sense that I like the culture I grew up in and value many unique things that came with it, like our culture's sense of humour! Quite different to other cultures that might not find something amusing that we mostly would etc. (reminds me of the time I worked with a Russian for about 18 months in our offices in South Africa. He was still young-ish and quite focused in his work, but it was a bit awkward, not knowing him personally etc. Nearly a year later into a project, I had just had an 'altercation' with another colleague in the passage and came back to my workstation, sat down and in a muffled voice mimicked a song of a Russian-born artist/singer. I sang: "everybody not so nice, nice!" The Russian engineer sitting just 12 feet away, burst out laughing, almost toppling over in his chair. The ice was finally broken and in weeks following, I realized that his sense of humour was much as ours was and by the time he had to pack up and head home, that our culture's were actually quite similar. I had just about made friends with a Commie! - and it didn't bother me one bit again that he was from another universe. Super experiences!
And so many fall for it. These people need to go directly to the Lord and ask, “Lord, is it true that I can lose my salvation? Please help me to understand Your Word correctly.” He WILL lead and guide the humble heart that comes to Him.
I saw a woman on TH-cam who says exactly the same things. She believes that you have to repent daily or you would be left behind in the rapture. She also believes that she can see angelic numbers in the sky at all times, and that her husband and children are going to hell for leading “lukewarm lives”. She is vehemently against anything secular at all and the COVID vaccine, believes Obama is the antichrist, and listens to Ray Comfort daily, which is all very telling to me. A deceitful woman hiding behind a sweet face. And just so you know who to avoid, her name is “Walking by the Spirit Always”. People like this ruin the good news of the gospel indeed.
There is not one example of someone who was sealed by the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit leave them, he’s basically saying that the Holy Spirit wasn’t strong or powerful enough to keep him.
My goodness, that poor guy. Just a few months in and all this was happening? I don't think so. This guy was like a dry drunk, one year sober, no wisdom, and thought he had it all figured out. He thought he got to skip straight to the front of the line, literally having conversations with God, a handful of months after getting saved. Not that it can't happen, but let's get real here. In reality, all he did was work himself up to a froth. It's sad that no one was there to slow him down a little. I'd hate to know what his church was like. It's also very possible this poor guy suffered from a mental break. Some of his behavior sounds borderline legit schizophrenic. He has zero business trying to influence new, fragile Christians.
a reprobate mind is about those who absolutely refuse to believe in Christ alone or those who refuse to have faith at all. it is not for BELIEVERS or the actual Brethren. it talks about it in Hebrews and that is why we are told to REST so many times. you said it! there is nothing new under the sun!
Perfect and timely message! What are the collective thoughts on the visions of Jesus that Jews and Muslims are having that are leading them to believe? I'm personally starting to accept them as being authentic because they are numerous and similar to one another, and are being shared as a personal testimony. Vastly different from the narcissistic Charlatan featured in this video, dropping new words and new doctrines.
Saul never lost salvation. When Samuel appeared to him, he told Saul that Saul would be with him (Samuel) at Abrahams side. Saul never lost salvation. The giving of the Holy Spirit at that time was the way that God officially denoted Kings and certain priests. Not everyone had the Holy Spirit. Salvation was not linked to having or not having the Spirit during that time.
Saul lost the Holy Spirit, and the kingship passed from his family to David's. Much is expected from one to whom much is given, but Saul lost what he did have due to disobedience. And not for any noble reason such as giving his life for his country, but for sin.
people like this made me scared driving in a car, because i was still smoking cigarettes and i was scared to death i would die in my sin of smoking cigarettes. The stress and heaviness that I would carry daily was so strong people didn’t even want to be around me.
In my opinion he is swinging through the moods. Since the fall we have had brain illnesses. I think discipline from God in those with certain sensitivities can create a big mood shift towards false assumptions of rejection or something bizarre. This “dangling” is written in books and could be subtly effecting him. I think he is running with the mood and making a doctrine out of it. His story is all about his extremes. I have those same mood brain issues. But he also said he preaches which then gives him a doubling down and ego. I wonder what others think about his ego. I have heard stories like his in other places. When I left a legalistic church and relaxed trying to be so performance based it gave me a better understanding of grace. Additionally life can hit hard and humbled me. Peace
Wow! He LOST his Salvation! And it's NOT like this happened after he was just plain Born Again. No, no no! It happened even though he was first _"radically_ Born Again!" I mean, I guess if even someone who was _"radically_ Born Again" can "lose" their Salvation, then what hope is there for people who are just _plain_ Born Again?
Where is "abide in the word's " authority?! His EXPERIENCE! Bible, Bible. Bible, BIBLE always over any experience. We should not dismiss experience but it must always go under Bible authority and if experience contradicts the Bible then throw experience into trash. I was in extreme charismatic side. I asked God to give me visions, dreams etc for many months. He never gave me any. I have always been sleeping well since I was a kid and also dreamt about a lot of things from my own mind. It is absolutely WONDERFUL when we can have Bible as absolute authority and stand on it with full assurance. Amen and amen!!
I can't tell you how much listening to that guy was stressing me out. "The Holy Spirit left me"??? I know so many people who believe things like this. Family members, friends and people online. It's so discouraging to hear them. Especially when I hear them say "God told me this or that or I had a dream and God showed me..." You try to plead with them using CLEAR scripture and they pull out the ever famous "endure to the end" It truly stresses me.
Didn't he say that in his vision that while being oddly dangled over a cliff his decision would be permanent? Wouldn't that mean he has eternal security since his decision was permanent and irreversible? 5:20
I heard so many things that were off with this man, I lost count. I've always felt secure. This is why people like him are so dangerous to new believer. You want to hear a word? The Word comes from scripture. Thank you Ono
Another great video, thank you! There’s so much and so many to refute out there, but just putting in a few of mine I’d like to see you do…Frank Turek and many he’s linked with, Justin Peters, Voddie and a few that give the nod of approval to them, and I see many encouraging and propping up C.S Lewis and would love to see some lines drawn on where and why we should beware. 🙏🏼for your encouragement to continue and your family
I’d like to add Sandy Armstrong and his co-pastor Ben Davis to the list. They, too, are deceiving many with their false “To be saved (or raptured), you must fight your flesh every day”.
Someone else said this but these “hell testimonies” and “NDEs” really scared me years ago when I was a babe in Christ. After all of those “biblical prophecies” surrounding the 2020, I learned to flee from these things.
Same. The fact is, you need God's word, NOT NDEs. It disturbs me how people actually take NDEs seriously. These people almost always believe in works salvation.
He will hear the most frightening words in the Bible "depart from Me ye who work iniquity for I never knew you" unless he believes God’s testimony concerning His Son that He gives ETERNAL LIFE to all who trust in Christ ALONE as savior per 1st John 5:9-13. He believes his salvation depends on HIM & HIS "enduring to the end" and not in Christ alone. Good job bro Ono!
Sealed at the moment of believing in Jesus.
How many people fully 100% believe in Jesus and his blood he shed for us for salvation and then stop believing it’s faith plus nothing. Those people my have stoped believing but they are still sealed. If at some point in his life he believed in his heart Jesus saved him and not of his works he will not hear those frightening words. I think this guy was persuaded by the devil to convince others it’s about their works. The devil my not have gotten him but he hopes to get others
@@appointedaday there is a difference in justification and rewards. John 3:16 is believing not believing plus. John 6:28,29 Jesus says Gods work for us is to believe in the one he has sent not believe plus. The people that believe faith plus nothing, our judgment will be at the Bema seat of Christ. It’s a judgment of our good works. It’s not for God to decide salvation or not salvation. We should do good works but that can’t save us as mentioned in Ephesians 2:8,9. God wants us to be certain we are saved. If it was Jesus plus our works what is the measurement on what we can measure our good works on for salvation. James 2:10 says For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. You are not co savior. I really hope you consider this and put your trust in Jesus alone. It’s Jesus blood that saves and his finished work on the cross
I still pray that Heavenly Father has mercy and gives grace to this person,however,His will be done,amen. We are taught to forgive and pray for our enemies.
Bro he was radically filled with demons
He’s calling God a liar as it’s says no one can pluck them from my father’s hands and I shall lose none This Epusion apologetics is a fraud the demons spoke to him because a person can never lose their salvation dude is twisted
Something that I notice is satan asked Jesus to throw himself off a cliff. I also believe there are spirits that can mimic God's voice to get people to believe a works based salvation.
Paul said if we or an angel from heaven preach another gospel, let him be accursed.
Agreed. Works based salvation is satanic
@@ShelahBenJudah Bye Felicia 👋🏻
@@ShelahBenJudah Bye Felicia 👋🏻
You totally can still sin even as a saved individual, fact is the Holy Spirit will convict you very badly lol❤ faith alone, OSAS, AMEN❤@@ShelahBenJudah
How do you know you've heard the right gospel?
Because that's what everyone says and believes?
I've got a list of at least 50 books that claim the Gospel is written in the stars, not in Jerusalem...
I can lead you to the pool of Siloam, and that the Constellation Auriga is the exact same image, but it was in the sky long before it was outside the city of Jerusalem.
So crazy how ppl think the holy spirit left them… I remember on my moms death bed she said it feels like god left me… I said no mom even if we go through all of these things in life God will never leave us and we have eternal life… that’s something we always are grateful for and she said you know what your right my girl…
praise God for your faithful testimony of truth. so thankful! He is the God of all comfort. He is so good.
Wow! What amazing faith you have..and you encouraged your mum at that time. I'm afraid I might have gone into doubt had I been in your shoes ❤
Ever since I found your videos along with a few others that preach the same gospel you do..I’ve been so at peace…I believe the scriptures and I’ve changed my mind set to put my faith in Jesus and Jesus alone…I trust what he did to get me to heaven and I believe he died for ALL my sins was buried and rose again on the third day and ever since I thought like that I knew I was saved..I’m only a 16 year old girl..I’m so excited for the Holy Spirit to lead and guide me..thank you so much💕💕!!
Can you list other preacher like him please 🙏😁
@@joseurbina4648 I watch Jack smack 77 and sniffing out pharisees they all really help me understand the Bible a lot more and they don’t preach a work based salvation
Jesse MARTINEZ
@@lawrencemick1665 don’t watch jacksmack anymore he’s a false teacher now
Ralph Arnold
God doesn't play with His Holy Spirit like a yo-yo...
Say that again bro !!!! That’s the truth !!!!!
These people are saying that they're having dreams, signs, visions everyday on their channels, sooo fake, sooo unreasonable, just wrong.
You most definitely can grieve the holy spirit and he will take a backseat sort of speak and let us have our own way .
@@debbiemercer2889 It's was just crazy to hear this dreamer go on and on like that, just ta fibbing. I was totally embarrassed for this dreamer, just blathering nonsense. Just shameful. 🫣
@debbiemercer2889 When people are constantly claiming to have dreams and visions, blatantly making it up.. They are definitely grieving His Holy Spirit.
It’s so easy for babes and truth-seeking individuals to get caught up in every wind of doctrine. Having a solid foundation in the rock will protect us from being led astray. We have to know that Christ is our foundation and put our faith in what he said. We are saved by believing in him alone apart from works and he will no wise cast out anyone who comes to him.
Amen to that. Gotta put on the full armor of God I.e., sound doctrine. Many Doctrinal error minefields out there especially ones that regards to salvation.
Amen
Yes 👍🏾 when reading the Bible the foundation of salvation has to be there otherwise this happens. Also reading the gospel or focusing on passages which support the gospel and the sacrifice of Christ help. Also reading what it means to now be a child of God once you have been saved I.e. your new identity
I got led astray into believing that one could lose their salvation, about a year or two after I got saved. Dan Corner was the reason. I was not as educated in the word and had less knowledge, that what he presented appeared to support conditional salvation. I believed this viewpoint that we lose our salvation if we get into a pattern of sin, and I believed it for almost seven years.
I also got carried away from correct doctrine when my chiropractor, a Pentecostal, gave me an Andrew Wommack CD during a time I was suffering with immense neurological problems after a car accident. The CD had Wommack talking about speaking things into existence by commanding things, in Jesus name, to happen. I was unaware that it had to be according to God's will.
Both of these points (believing that one could lose their salvation, and believing that one could always speak things into existence) actually caused fear in me, caused me to doubt my salvation when I would sin, and it discouraged me greatly when the maladies I had been suffering with weren't subsiding even though I had been commanding things.
In addition to the injuries I had sustained from a car accident, I later had covid twice. One time it went to pneumonia and it took about two months to fully recover from. However, two months after covid (the first time), I started having short term memory problems. Basically, covid seems to have taken advantage of my previous brain injury sustained in the accident, and it attacked what was vulnerable, my brain. It caused me to have focal seizures, which was making it hard to concentrate and causing me to not remember things. I got so angry one night by having trouble processing information, that I yelled out in anger to God regarding my situation, fuming because I was led to believe that whatever we ask for we were to receive, yet my medical conditions were only getting worse.
After yelling out against God, I felt conviction, and since I still believed that one could lose their salvation, I was extremely fearful. It caused me to get into the Word more than I ever had. In doing so, it calmed my nerves, and I reclaimed the belief on unconditional salvation. I learned about predestination, and I have become a more learned person in the Bible. The fear of going to Hell has gone away. I know that I am secure in the Lord.
This led me to think about the verse that says that God causes all things to work for the good of those in Christ Jesus who are called according to his purpose. It made me realize, that even though I had been suffering, God used it to bring about a better change in my faith and to cast out the fear.
I still struggle with neurological issues (I have for almost ten years), but with medication the memory problems have much improved. Just thought that my story could be of use to someone.
What is the difference between believing and trusting him and cominh to him. Rather what did he mean come unto me? Is that the same as believing him fully?
you literally helped me realize i'm saved😅 like no joke❤
It's good to see you addressing this guy. I once tried to reason with him on his channels comment section. I asked him, when Jesus declared the woman saved by her faith in Luke 7:50, why did Jesus not tell her about any of this extra works based burden she should live up to in order to stay saved, or was Jesus just lying when he declared her saved. Never got a straight answer, he mostly just kept replying with links to his other videos, where he just keeps twisting the scripture even further. Since he was so stubborn and impossible to reason with, I had to tell him finally that I don't even feel bad for him since he is so unrelenting, but I feel for those that he is misleading.
Exactly this. I did the same thing and he kept bringing up scripture that he twisted so far in his head I was just startled lol! He was a brick wall
I'm glad I'm not the only one who tried reasoning with him 🥲
@@WhitePidgeon 𝗮𝗯𝗶𝗱𝗲 𝗶𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗪𝗼𝗿𝗱 is his channels name.
I ran into this guys channel before I knew about the gospel but we went back and forth. He brought up scripture that of course was taken wayyyy out of context its amazing what these religious people do to defend their pride
He makes me feel like I am not saved because I didn't have such a dramatic salvation experience like he did.
@@feline501 Dont ever doubt your salvation if you have placed your trust on the finished redemptive work of Christ! Remember there is nothing more powerful than his shed blood. I didnt really have a dramatic salvation “event” either and honestly im not sure when but I know it was this brother who saved me because I thought I trusted in Jesus alone but was saying someone is saved if they are “transformed”. Thank you Jesus for salvation. God bless you brother/sister
@TJ.McGrath Abide in the Word is his name
@TJ.McGrath The channel No Nonsense Christianity made videos exposing Abide in the Word false gospel as well.
Thank you for exposing this nonsense.
If you want to know what GOD has to say, read the bible. If you want to HEAR what GOD has to say, read the bible out loud.
I am going to steal that one. I like it.
Very true and interesting ...
Amen!!!😂
It’s from Justin Peters
I LOVE this!!!! I hope you don't mind, but I MUST pass this on to a few of my brothers and sisters!!!! God bless you!!!!
“who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.”
1 Peter 1:5 KJV
The Holy Spirit NEVER Ever Leaves us.
He calls God a liar, I believe I have everlasting life like God says we do
Why oh why is he doing this, saying these things? Do he actually think that anyone would believe these things he's allowing to come out of his mouth? 😒
I think maybe it's because the devil it's very subtle and smart he can deceive the masses with false testimonies of hell on other things as well that's why we shouldn't follow Jesus just because one man testimony we should follow him primarily because of his word and his love. @@BibleTumper
If I had to choose between the nonsensical ramblings of some legalistic nutcase and the divine word of the loving graceful Lord, I choose to take the divine word.
That man is lost and being used to deceive other people.
I really appreciate your videos, makes me want to get into the Word more. I never had such a dramatic salvation experience and that makes me feel like I'm not saved whenever somebody tells their experience like that. But I know I am saved and Jesus is my foundation, forever. Regardless of what somebody else says.
I met Jesus myself in a dream or vision before. He told me only one thing..... "Have Faith" that was all I needed!
Edit: The bible says we are saved by faith alone.
Faith alone in Jesus includes everything He has said.
And you say that you don't have to do anything.
You obviously don't believe in faith in Jesus alone, because you run your life based on your thoughts, some of the world's ways, when you are supposed to run it on every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.
See how you condemn yourself by denying Christ?
@@michaelalbertson7457 I don't know what you are trying to get at. I have Faith in Jesus Christ and what he did for me on the cross. I don't have to do anything. All works are done through Holy Spirit. We can't do nothing of ourselves.
@@michaelalbertson7457???
The Gospel! (Good news)✨
[1 Corinthians 15:1-4]
Jesus Christ shed his blood for all of our sins, past, present and future.
He was buried and rose again on the third day, according to the scriptures.
We are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ Alone, not of our works, so nobody can boast.
It is amazing grace, something we did not and cannot earn, and something we do not deserve.
God gave His only begotten (created) son that whosoever (anyone) believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
How do you come to that?
1. Admit your a sinner in need of Jesus Christ.
2. The moment you put your faith and trust in Jesus Christ alone to save you from death, you are sealed until the day of redemption (you cannot lose your salvation) You are protected, justified by the blood of Christ, and rapture ready! (Which is going to happen at any moment)
3. The Holy Spirit will indwell in you, lead you, guide you, minister to you, encourage you, speak to you, teach you, and change you.
TODAY is the day of salvation!
Trust Jesus Christ today!
Amen and God Bless❤️
We are saved by believing in Jesus Christ and repent our sins to turn away from them and ask Jesus into our life. Not faith alone.
Pay attention folks. This is probably the most clearcut unreserved message you'll ever hear on this subject. So many, yes even some believers are easily bamboozled by this sort of "I got a special message from God" testimony.
“Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.”
1 Corinthians 13:8-10 KJV
Right before I started having sleep paralysis, beings of light would visit me. Those beings of light were not good as I found out years later. Only the word of God is what you should listen to, he had it written sown for all of us the read for ourselves. Calling on the name of Jesus and believing in his words made all the things of the dark go away.
"And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light." (2Co 11:14 KJV)
Noticed how he said at the very beginning, "I was born again because I confessed Jesus as my Lord". He never said, "I trusted Christ as my savior". Jesus told Nicodemus in John 3:16 how one in born again. And it doesn't say anything about confessing Jesus as your Lord. We all know what it says.
Yes,I caught that too.
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Thanks for the information. I have had similar experiences and then drawn similar conclusions as the man in this video. You have helped me to gain some clarity back after getting lost in that way of thinking. Glad to have come across your channel, appreciate what you’re doing.
Same!
Same
Genuinely the most well structured responses I’ve seen from a Christian TH-camr. Thanks so much, praise be to God. The Scripture is great.
Thanks for addressing this topic. These videos used to scare me as a babe in Christ. Thank you Jesus for showing me the truth!
Hey same here, i was spooked for days, which drew me closer to God out of fear. Thankful for Ono, my fav Gospel youtuber
Eternal security!
Hallelujah! 🙌🙌🙌
Praise be to the Lord Jesus Christ!
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is this Onorato a cessastionist?
@@SamuelTheSon He preaches on scripture and how it should be defined within biblical accuracy not human error or conceitedness.
that didnt answer my question. if you're saying he believes that the gifts ceased then he believes a lie made by a man@@Galatians-vr8xd
@@Galatians-vr8xdhe seems to not preach about Hebrews 6:4-6 which is clear that you can lose salvation. And it’ll be impossible to come back to it. Read that verse carefully. Also this guy never mentioned acts 2:17
@danielcercel1665 That verse in Hebrews refers to people returning back to animal sacrifices once enlightened to Christ,
Instead of moving forward in grace and maturity of spirit.
There's no other sacrifice that will suffice the forgiveness of sins to be justified in Gods eyes anymore after Jesus Christ as the audience at the time were believers but were tempted to go back to the old ways.
Acts 2:17 refers to those who repent,
Eternal security in Christ is Biblical.
Wow Jeremiah is one book I have lacked reading in and never knew it has this whole topic of dreams covered! Thanks for this teaching! Let Gods Word be true and every man a liar!
Thank you brother for your teaching of the true gospel of God. In Jesus name amen brother amen.
Most of the time (with a few exceptions) dreams are simply the subconscious mind communicating with the concious mind. Whatever thoughts, convictions or moods you're going through will manifest as symbolic imagery in your sleep. For example, a saved Christian who feels guilty over their sin might dream about going to hell. It's not true, but the saved Christian FEELS hellbound. I mean, I once had a dream about God telling believers to go aboard an alien spaceship that was on its way to heaven. Using that as a message from God would be silly.
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I believe Satan will give dreams making us think they are from God in order to lead us away from God and the truth.
The bible never says you'll have NDE's in the end times, it speaks of heresy and deception in the end times. Just believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved. Jesus Christ (The Eternally Existing Son of God in flesh, God The Son, Savior, Christ) died on the cross shedding his blood for all our sins, was buried, rose again the 3rd day! By believing the gospel, you have eternal life, saved forever, sealed, eternally secured, promised to never be blotted out of book of life, always in the book of life! Eternal Life is forever, not conditional! :D
Praise Jesus!
Acts 2:17
New King James Version
‘And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God, That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your young men shall see visions, Your old men shall dream dreams.
@@carolineshenouda8453 Where does it say NDE's?
@@ZacharyLittle777 the bible doesn’t mention NDE. Could he have had a vision of what his fate was if he did not change? I know someone who also found themselves going to a very dark place after her heart stopped in hospital. She felt the darkness and severe fear until she heard a voice behind her to call out the name of Jesus and promised she’d change if He gave her another chance and warn others of hell. She was not walking with the Lord, but was a lukewarm Christian at the time. She has papers to prove she died in hospital. Sometimes it’s not their time to go or perhaps Jesus in His great mercy uses them to inform others how serious we are to be. We need to be worthy to enter His kingdom. Remember God kicked Adam and Eve out for just ONE sin.
She has become a completely different person. She’s changed churches, speaks in tongues and serves the Lord with all her heart.
God bless 🙏
@@ZacharyLittle777 Paul talks about the man who was taken up to heaven and saw marvelous things. But it is "not lawful" to speak of such things.
I've heard it argued that it actually means that what he saw was inexpressibly good.
My bro had an NDE, he was blue, not breathing, no heartbeat, taken to hospital, adrenaline & electric paddles applied, nothing worked. I prayed for him--guess what? The emergency methods started working. Heart started, breathing machine for a little while--then he started breathing on his own after a little while. Out in a day or two after coming in dead.
He mentioned at some point a little later, he did have an NDE, but he wasn't saying a word about it. He never did. His life changed though, for the better, not that it was bad before.
Going up to heaven in spirit is what NDE speakers talk about, and the Bible talks about it.
And the Bible says don't talk about it. That some people do, might be allowed to confirm that they do happen. God allows all sorts of things to happen, that aren't right. Such as martyrdom, it's wrong to kill someone for preaching the Gospel.
The guy is lost.. still. Call God a liar and questioning “ why ME?” Like he is someone superior. So much was wrong with what he was saying. I say why me?… why is God so loving, why is He so patient with me, why did He come for me at my lowest? Should be dead but God saved my life, He changed my life and once I learned the truth, He gave me eternal life. I will never deny Him.
Yeah it's crazy, his talking got me boiling, how can he think god gets involved with someone (him) knowing he will be lost in the end possibly, so much wrong with what he said, if God comes into a person's life that person is saved!! God does not waste his time.
@@Zegoggy amen.
He who has begun a new work on you will fulfill it until the end.
Amen brother. For some reason people's flesh wants to believe these type of stories
Salvation is not fragile...our minds may be at times..beware of people who say God speaks to them in this manner..reprobate mind ?..he still has it.
One of the clearest parts of the Gospel for me is the thief on the Cross who was saved by believing in Jesus without being able to do works as he was hanging on the cross.
"And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise."
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AMEN ...
Excellent. Thank you
Thank you 🌸🕊️ may God bless you 🤍
Thankyou Onorato . Im growing by the day . The holy spirit grounding me in understanding the simplicity of the gospel. Bless you my fellow saint in Christ ✝️✝️
Jesus loves you man thanks for sharing the real gospel
Finally this guys teaching is being addressed with truth.
I always believed in eternal security. Great to hear you clarify it for others who may see this video & be misled. You remind me of the disciples in Christ's day when they were steering people back to the truth of God's Word as opposed to false teaching such as this.
For people who believe you can lose your salvation I would ask them "What do you think God's doing, plucking daisy petals like I saved them/I saved them not? If so, you better hope God pulls an I saved them petal at your last breath!
But Jesus said "None the Father has given me can be plucked from my hand".
Amen brother - another incredible video. All the glory to God and thanks for his great gospel!
i agree i have had dreams but they match scripture and if they don't they need to test the spirits and need to find a dream interrupter and this person doesn't understand the scripture its clear you cant lose your salvation it's sad im going to pray for him
Wonderful job,much love brother. To God be the glory in Lord Jesus Christ name 🙏❤️
I love your videos and that you give scripture to go along with them.
I gave this man scripture on his TH-cam channel explaining why I am not willing to make doctrine out of his experience that is totally unbiblical, and he had my comment removed. We went back and fourth for a bit and ultimately he had no answer, so he removed my comment all together.
That's what they do; they just essentially shadow ban you.
Me too.
This guy is a clown.
truly signs of a reprobate mind.
@@antonpliushch3912reprobate means GOD quit dealing with him. Think about it…
@@toddstarkey6820 Romans 1:28
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Additionally…it’s ludicrous: how many sins must one commit to “lose” the spirit? What sorts? Okay so I lose my salvation on Monday, how many days until I can re-obtain? Is there a limit on the spirit’s comings and going? A lifetime cap? May these false gospel adherents be accursed!
Read about King Saul.
Bro, the spirit would come and go ALL THE TIME in the OT. See Saul, Samson, David fearing it would happen. If we are in a better covenant built in better promises now how in heck can we be in the same situation as the OT?? We can’t. The spirit is sealed in all believers- a deposit guaranteeing and inheritance. Not intimating an inheritance. Guaranteeing it. Read up novice.
@@goblintownwhen Jesus was on earth, he taught from the Old Testament. Matter of fact New Testament was written years after he left. Also he said that he was here to fulfill the law and prophets (old testament), not do away with it. HE said it not me.
That’s correct. The Holy Spirit was neither sealing nor indwelling believers during the time of Jesus’ earthly ministry, which was still technically OT.
These are the questions I always have. If I can loose my salvation give me the exact recipe for me to get it back
your channel is extremely underrated.
It always seems like these people who claim “NDEs” and trips to “hell” always sell a works doctrine.
YES. Because they always use NDEs to claim that they saw Christians in Hell.
Thank you brother for this video
May God bless you
When I was crying out to God in desperation as a new Christian if salvation was by faith alone or by works, He literally showed me supernaturally, through a 100 year old dictionary that salvation was by FAITH ALONE. I have the video on my channel, it's amazing what God can do if you're just humble and willing to listen.
What is your channel?
Those coming back from an NDE, vision, and dream usually carries with them a false Gospel.
Devil can deceive you in NDE's.
Yeah like Bill weise! Ever heard him or read his book? Supposedly he went to hell and came back and preaches a works based salvation
@@fightingwithtruth1698 Bill Weise sounded so convincing with his testimony about hell, it had millions scared straight.
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Yeah, I bought his book many years ago and one of the worst purchasing choices I ever made. Complete tosh that contradicts the Scriptures on so many levels and either a whopper of a tall tale or a strong delusion given by a lying spirit. LIke all the Hell and back trippers I've come across, he's not sound on the Gospel and plugging a faith plus works false scheme of righteousness. That book has since ended up ripped to shreds and chucked in the trash. Best place for it. Mary K. Baxter is another one to be well marked and avoided. Her and Weise seemed to kick off a craze amongst the whackjob wing of the pentecostals and charismatics where they're trying to outdo one another with whose experience is the most lurid and horrific. It sure cast those 2 into the limelight and made them a good few bucks into the bargain through merchandise sales and appearance fees. Why I'm inclined to take the view that they are deliberate deceivers. When this is combined with a fake Gospel by people who have never been saved by faith alone in Christ alone, a very dangerous position indeed to be in. Telling lies in the name of the Lord for self-aggrandisement and/or financial gain can result in God hardening their heart and giving them over to a reprobate mind where their damnation is definite (2 Perter 2:1-3).
@@Dee-iy9uqHeretics are often frighteningly convincing. Bill Weise is one of those.
Amen, and let us pray the man in the video stops moving on subjective feelings and begins to trust in the finished work of Christ for his eternal salvation!
If we could loose our salvation, we all would have lost it by now, ALL of us. Thank God, it is He who causes us to be saved.
Yeah God’s word over these experiences and dreams of other people. Abraham told the rich man in torments that his five brethren had Moses and the prophets. If they hear not the Moses and the prophets, they will not be persuaded even if one rose from the dead. The key here is to trust God’s word over man’s experiences and dreams. Most important of all is to be believe the one true gospel of grace- 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Amen brother, It's so important knowing the correct gospel and sound doctrine!
It was not the Holy Spirit that he felt leaving, it was his self righteous and religious spirit leaving on the backdrop of that humiliating situation of him being out of control. He could have been saved at that moment, realising he's a sinner who needs Jesus, but he chose pushing further his own works and merits. I often wonder how longsuffering and patient is God seeing so many mocking His heart towards man and His grace towards mankind.
I am actually tired of hearing people tell me you can lose your salvation, many Christians have had opinions about my salvation. I did not grow up in a Church, my walk has been primarily in the Word. Started there, and will end there. Im no expert but it makes absolutely no sense why or how you could loose something God gave to you through the brutal death of His son, Jesus-our saviour.
Wow Jeremiah 23-30/31 what a way to end the video.Thanks you. Maranatha and God bless ✝️
of all my time in pursuing God he showed up the most and without question when i read the word without bias but rather an earnest desire to obtain the truth
Thank you for this Norm. This is good stuff
Another awesome teaching. Thank you, Oronato❤
Amen man people need to know this and stay away from the God told me people. Theres a difference between them seeing signs and saying their from God cause there are no coincidences. Mainly speaking on the people that claim he straight up told them this or that and usually it's unbiblical and they give you a scripture that is pulled out of context...... Them people
I actually agree with you. Read more. Listen to these guys less.
Thank you. God bless!
Superly good! Tx.!
So many (more) people (suddenly) popping up with testimonies around dreams, NDE's and visions.
Dreams can be so vivid, but I find them mostly messy and confusing. Great as a stress reliever at times, but again, mostly adds to my stress as many of them affect my emotions more than anything else. I did have two dreams (ever) that were unique though. First one was five seconds long of myself looking up at the moon and then suddenly it (partially, I see only the first second of the event) explodes. Very vivid and great colours! Not upsetting somehow..
Second one was just recent. I'm staring out into the heavens as if I am suspended in open space (there was nothing but darkness), and I sense the Lord's presence next to me. I 'hear' an answer to what seems to be a question in my mind (nothing was audible) -I 'hear': Yes, Israel and all the nations will all rule over their own in the heavens. -Seemed like I had this question in my mind as to whether the nations would all still exist in the new heavens and earth into eternity. I suppose I have this issue with keeping me, me, in the sense that I like the culture I grew up in and value many unique things that came with it, like our culture's sense of humour! Quite different to other cultures that might not find something amusing that we mostly would etc. (reminds me of the time I worked with a Russian for about 18 months in our offices in South Africa. He was still young-ish and quite focused in his work, but it was a bit awkward, not knowing him personally etc. Nearly a year later into a project, I had just had an 'altercation' with another colleague in the passage and came back to my workstation, sat down and in a muffled voice mimicked a song of a Russian-born artist/singer. I sang: "everybody not so nice, nice!" The Russian engineer sitting just 12 feet away, burst out laughing, almost toppling over in his chair. The ice was finally broken and in weeks following, I realized that his sense of humour was much as ours was and by the time he had to pack up and head home, that our culture's were actually quite similar. I had just about made friends with a Commie! - and it didn't bother me one bit again that he was from another universe. Super experiences!
People like this caused me so much confusion when I was a new believer a few years ago.
For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
Amen brother, great video!!!
The "I dreamed about going to Hell and then left osas" guys are the worst 🤦♂️ they'll pit their dream against the inspired word of God
And so many fall for it. These people need to go directly to the Lord and ask, “Lord, is it true that I can lose my salvation? Please help me to understand Your Word correctly.” He WILL lead and guide the humble heart that comes to Him.
I saw a woman on TH-cam who says exactly the same things. She believes that you have to repent daily or you would be left behind in the rapture. She also believes that she can see angelic numbers in the sky at all times, and that her husband and children are going to hell for leading “lukewarm lives”. She is vehemently against anything secular at all and the COVID vaccine, believes Obama is the antichrist, and listens to Ray Comfort daily, which is all very telling to me. A deceitful woman hiding behind a sweet face. And just so you know who to avoid, her name is “Walking by the Spirit Always”. People like this ruin the good news of the gospel indeed.
95% of people who claim to have died then taken to heaven are book authors, pushing a sad story for money.
Thank you!
Amen & Thank you !
There is not one example of someone who was sealed by the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit leave them, he’s basically saying that the Holy Spirit wasn’t strong or powerful enough to keep him.
My goodness, that poor guy. Just a few months in and all this was happening? I don't think so. This guy was like a dry drunk, one year sober, no wisdom, and thought he had it all figured out. He thought he got to skip straight to the front of the line, literally having conversations with God, a handful of months after getting saved. Not that it can't happen, but let's get real here.
In reality, all he did was work himself up to a froth. It's sad that no one was there to slow him down a little. I'd hate to know what his church was like.
It's also very possible this poor guy suffered from a mental break. Some of his behavior sounds borderline legit schizophrenic. He has zero business trying to influence new, fragile Christians.
a reprobate mind is about those who absolutely refuse to believe in Christ alone or those who refuse to have faith at all. it is not for BELIEVERS or the actual Brethren. it talks about it in Hebrews and that is why we are told to REST so many times.
you said it! there is nothing new under the sun!
Perfect and timely message! What are the collective thoughts on the visions of Jesus that Jews and Muslims are having that are leading them to believe? I'm personally starting to accept them as being authentic because they are numerous and similar to one another, and are being shared as a personal testimony. Vastly different from the narcissistic Charlatan featured in this video, dropping new words and new doctrines.
The difference is that it leads them to Christ and they aren't claiming it is a message for everyone else.
@@graftme3168exactly like...test the spirits against the word and true gospel.
If you can lose your salvation you never had it in the first place.
What about King Saul.
What about him???@@toddstarkey6820
Saul never lost salvation. When Samuel appeared to him, he told Saul that Saul would be with him (Samuel) at Abrahams side. Saul never lost salvation. The giving of the Holy Spirit at that time was the way that God officially denoted Kings and certain priests. Not everyone had the Holy Spirit. Salvation was not linked to having or not having the Spirit during that time.
Saul lost the Holy Spirit, and the kingship passed from his family to David's. Much is expected from one to whom much is given, but Saul lost what he did have due to disobedience. And not for any noble reason such as giving his life for his country, but for sin.
@lizh1988 NOPE
Amen brother 🙏🏽
people like this made me scared driving in a car, because i was still smoking cigarettes and i was scared to death i would die in my sin of smoking cigarettes. The stress and heaviness that I would carry daily was so strong people didn’t even want to be around me.
These God told me youtubers grind my gears man
So many feelings in that testimony, with no scripture at all.
100% we should always check it by the scriptures. Ave anything we hear, see, dream should always match the Word of GOD!
You can't ever lose ur salvation
Amen 🙏 brother in Christ ✝️ God bless Onorato Diamante
Great video man some of these videos make me question, their playing on peoples emotions then pulling you into another gospel
How can you lose something thats eternal?
In my opinion he is swinging through the moods. Since the fall we have had brain illnesses. I think discipline from God in those with certain sensitivities can create a big mood shift towards false assumptions of rejection or something bizarre.
This “dangling” is written in books and could be subtly effecting him. I think he is running with the mood and making a doctrine out of it.
His story is all about his extremes. I have those same mood brain issues. But he also said he preaches which then gives him a doubling down and ego. I wonder what others think about his ego.
I have heard stories like his in other places. When I left a legalistic church and relaxed trying to be so performance based it gave me a better understanding of grace. Additionally life can hit hard and humbled me.
Peace
Good video
Wow! He LOST his Salvation!
And it's NOT like this happened after he was just plain Born Again. No, no no! It happened even though he was first _"radically_ Born Again!" I mean, I guess if even someone who was _"radically_ Born Again" can "lose" their Salvation, then what hope is there for people who are just _plain_ Born Again?
Where is "abide in the word's " authority?! His EXPERIENCE! Bible, Bible. Bible, BIBLE always over any experience. We should not dismiss experience but it must always go under Bible authority and if experience contradicts the Bible then throw experience into trash.
I was in extreme charismatic side. I asked God to give me visions, dreams etc for many months. He never gave me any. I have always been sleeping well since I was a kid and also dreamt about a lot of things from my own mind. It is absolutely WONDERFUL when we can have Bible as absolute authority and stand on it with full assurance.
Amen and amen!!
You can lose your fellowship but not your relationship.
I’m new to this way of thinking about the gospel is repentance required for salvation
Amen brother Norm ❤
I can't tell you how much listening to that guy was stressing me out. "The Holy Spirit left me"??? I know so many people who believe things like this. Family members, friends and people online. It's so discouraging to hear them. Especially when I hear them say "God told me this or that or I had a dream and God showed me..."
You try to plead with them using CLEAR scripture and they pull out the ever famous "endure to the end"
It truly stresses me.
Keep it up brother much love
Didn't he say that in his vision that while being oddly dangled over a cliff his decision would be permanent? Wouldn't that mean he has eternal security since his decision was permanent and irreversible? 5:20
hmmm, God hangs people by their feet over a cliff in a dream. Interesting.
I heard so many things that were off with this man, I lost count.
I've always felt secure. This is why people like him are so dangerous to new believer. You want to hear a word? The Word comes from scripture.
Thank you Ono
Another great video, thank you!
There’s so much and so many to refute out there, but just putting in a few of mine I’d like to see you do…Frank Turek and many he’s linked with, Justin Peters, Voddie and a few that give the nod of approval to them, and I see many encouraging and propping up C.S Lewis and would love to see some lines drawn on where and why we should beware. 🙏🏼for your encouragement to continue and your family
I’d like to add Sandy Armstrong and his co-pastor Ben Davis to the list. They, too, are deceiving many with their false “To be saved (or raptured), you must fight your flesh every day”.
@@krissyyoung9264 yes not fan of Sandy
What has Frank Turek said that needs refuting?
Bill weiss the man who said he was in hell for 23 minutes is a good example, he teaches a works based salvation! You definitly need to expose him!
23 minutes. What an exact amount of time. He must have had a watch to keep track of how long he was there. LOL
I stopped believing nde's when I realized no 2 versions of hell are the same
Take heed that no man deceive you.