TWL #8: Immortality Through Quantum Suicide
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Immortality sounds, uhh... kinda awful, but there is a theory on how to achieve it by using quantum mechanics.
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Guys don't try this, it has been patched
Or the fact that they are still alive in that universe but dead in yours
how do you know?
@@GrahamBurgers he tried
R/outside
I thought god gave up on this universe
I inhabit the universe where I decided not to perform the experiment.
You're amazing dude, love your videos!
how do i know you didn't set it up in your mine?
I inhabit the universe where I don't have access to nuclear weapons.
When you see your favorite TH-camr on your other favorite TH-camr
Aye bud
So basically to become immortal I should play a nerve racking russian roulette with a nuclear bomb 300 times.
Yes please do. Let us know if it works.
well his consciousness would transcend. So while he's dead here he would live elsewhere. Did you watch the video?
according to the many universe theory, you will always find yourself in a universe in which you've somehow managed to survive eons of completely improbable life and death scenarios.
That shit just blew my mind
+Douglas Estep unless you happen to be one of the versions of you who dies, and at any rate, we all inhabit a universe where every last human who ever lived so far has died, so the many universes theory will have to remain an interesting hypothesis for the foreseeable future.
"he's trying to kill himself"
"activate quantum immortality"
Hmmm
Bizonacci
XDDD
*B O G G E D*
GameStop dipped?
PUMP EET
"he thinks is about to make it"
Am I the only one get nervous when he was like '3, 2, 1, click. 3, 2, 1, click"
Chrice Chiu I was expecting a boom
I felt like he had my fate in his hands. All it would take for him to kill me was to put a "BOOM" instead of a click.
Chrice Chiu no
Yes lol.
I thought I was gonna die.
Each of us has already died in an incalculable number of outcomes in alternate realities.
True.
If the many worlds theory is true.
Maybe that's why when we dream of dying, we wake up.
All Seeing Alien no.
Web Compendium yes.
"do I scratch my butthole" *imagines how I just created a universe while scratching myself*
Sean Becker lmao
You deserved every one of those upvotes! Upvotes in this video. Forgets to in another universe
Do I make Trump gay?
Imagine what I have done
A universe which deletes all others including ours. Aha! I found a flaw
Holy shit, I literally just did the exact same thing and even thought if I just created another universe with my decision.
When the video got to the part about quantum suicide, I was ok that it was a 50/50 chance. What I was not ok was that you did it multiple times. I had a heart attack when you counted again.
@@MikeMike-dv7iv please leave
honestly same i got chills every time it clicked
Gilbert.
@@drakep.5857 What happened here?
infinite
We can make a religion out of this
No don't
Yes we can but please don't.
Let’s do it
@charles manson
@Shreker King I see what you did there lmao
So the universe was most famously split by Shakespeare
"To be or not to be?"
Underrated
Video begins at 0:00
Mindblitz64 thx
Really? I thought it started at 5:01?
plz dont steal comment ideas from me before i comment my idea
I thought it started at 4:07:36??
Why isn't there an integer underflow where the video begins just before the heat death of the universe?
Slow the video at 0:13
*"Gay Bomb"*
yeah, that's a thing.
quite interesting, if a bit wierd
you should look it up!
I’m good
Sex bomb sex bomb
@@gezzapk Jokes aside, a sex bomb would be easier and make more sense. Like just drop a shit ton of Viagra; easier to make people horny and make them wanna fuck anything, than change their sexuality. Like, what, are we gonna drop the gay bomb and wait a few weeks while Adam finds his Steve?
MIDDLE EAST GET READY
immortal until proven otherwise!
I fuckin love that quote!!! Made my day!
Nah its true, I keep killing myself but here I am....
This is hell
dont count your chickens before they hatch.
if they hatch, then they won't be around to notice
I actually remember dying a lot, I just keep "Waking up" afterward
MastaSmack you mean respawn?
Hey, you’re finally awake. You got caught in that imperial ambush.
@@spacedoutorca4550 you tried to cross the border right? Same as us and that thief over there
Maybe you forgot about decoherence that seperate one copy of you from others copies.
@@omeven5785 Who.......are you
Video ends at 5:01 :^)
Wow thanks no shit
TY, and yeah...Wendover Productions is basically LARPing as Veritasium or VSauce but it's boring.
In order to know that you've died, you have to be aware of your death in other words, to be dead you'll have to be alive and to be alive you'll have to know that you have died before.
Kind of like a dream. If you didn't wake up from a dream, how would you know that you were dreaming? You only notice that you were in a dream after you wake up :P
Actually,you can realize that you are in a dream even during the dream. It happens to me very often.
@@kap6457 same, I realize almost immediately when I can sense my body not moving but having the urge to. When those dreams happen, I usually do 2 things:
1. Try to determine what type of dream it is. There are certain dreams where I'm not sure what I can do, so I usually determine this by trial and error, starting with seeing if I can control it. There are dreams where you can control reality, so I usually try that by giving myself supernatural capabilities or trying to change the environment around me. This will usually lead to success, meaning I can control it, or my brain will reject my will by glitching out for a few seconda before returning to its normal status. TL:DR I check to see if my mind lets me play God.
2. Whatever I want from there. If I can't control my dream, I just stick around and watch whatever my brain wants me to watch. If I can control my dream, I just go crazy from there.
@@SeaFR unfortunately when i lucid dream the only thing I can do is fly for 5 seconds and then I immediately wake up😞
@@kap6457 don't worry, everyone has different willpower. Some are stronger than others since they were born, others work hard to increase it. I'm sure you can strengthen it, just try to reach out your imagination in different ways.
@@SeaFR my dreams are running in debug mode lol....i could even transfer a nightmare to a sweet dream with gf
Every time I decide to eat a bag of chips...the universe splits...thats like 3 times a week
and every time you decide to take a can of beer, icetea, soda... to go with your chips, and after that you have to decide to go out for a walk, a jogging, to the swimmingpool, stay home in front of the TV, stay home reading... and everytime your copie-self in the world where "you" decide to take bear rather than soda, to go out for the swimmingpool rather than stay home, and every time the copie-self in the world where "you" decide to take a soda then stay home gardening, and every time your copie-self decide to invite a friend to play game with you, and everytime she/he decides............................... that makes the universe split .... a lot
+RyuDarragh yeah. and what defines a choise? everything that is random splits, and most of the world is random, so every instant (and i mean the smallest timeframe possible), a nearly infinite ammount of realities appear, 7billion^7billion if we only account for humans, and fuck me if you start counting ants, or even bacteria. so even better, every instant, x new universes are created, x being n^n^y (n being the number of quarks, electrons, atoms, in the universe, and y the number of universes allready existing, i probaby fucked up the math but you get it)
tl;dr, the many worlds is probably bogus, even if i want to believe in the virtually infinite number of realities where i'm the french president... wait, would it actually be me? or am i not the same me as all the ex-me's in all the infinite numbers of realities that exist?
Yeah, no choice has 2 answers. Most have close tp infinite answers
I just created 29 universes. Damn...
Imagine every time you decided to watch porn, matey.
I can't believe it. I thought of this when I was like 11 or 12 but just threw it to the side because I thought it was too far fetched and that nobody would believe me. It amazes me to see that I'm not the only one that thought of this.
I was going to say the same thing. It's something I thought about when I was pretty young. No point in me saying how young, someone else will just say they thought about this when they were 5 years old to prove to themselves that they're smarter than me.
+gafeht makes sense, I never thought of somebody doing that until now.
"I haven't died myself. Other people have died. If I can never be around to know I'm dead, maybe I will always exist in a world where I don't die." Something like that. Nothing to do with quantum mechanics, so no shiny titles for me, just recess.
+gafeht right right right. when I thought of it it was never as complex as quantum physics but still surprised that I was that close.
I also thought of this when I was 14
what do you mean immortality would suck. It would be great. "Oh but you would get bored of doing everything". I dont think so, Iv'e been doing fuck all my entire life and it never gets old. "oh but it would be sad to watch loved ones die of old age". Yes it would. So, you'd rather die before that happens? Being immortal would be the best.
When they try to make it sad it's the worst. You can't do everything even if you're inmortal, always is gonna be something new, new tech,new books,new movies, new people, you're gonna spend some time with everything and you will try everything and even doing that you'll never go to the end of new stuff for you. I mean, inmortality is pretyy exciting, and for the loved ones part? well you can forget them, focus on other stuff, meet new people, like happens in Doctor Who, when somebody dies he's sad for a while but he doesn't want to die, he just continues his life.
Well, the thing is, thermodynamics and the heat death of the universe. Long story short, the universe is eventually gonna be just "eneergy" perfectly dilluted trough all of it. If we assume you can not die by any mean, you'll be stuck there for 1000 to the power of 56, wich is a 1 with 56000 zero after it. You'd go insane, multiple time.
Note: The reason the time is not ifinite is that after so much time there would (statisticly) a new big bang becuse of quantum tunelling.
Note 2: The details of what I just said are simply the most accepted theories on the subject fo the death of the universe, but they are not certain. What is certain is that you'd eventually spend an insane amount of time around nothing recognizable to a human and you'd go completly insane, probably eventually suffering some kind olf brain death losing all higher inteligence.
This is why you don't want to be truly immortal.
Justin Briand
so you went there? how it is? You know that are just theories,no? Even the life of a universe is unkown, could be 10 millions(just an example, I know it isn't) and could be infinite, we don't know that, we don't even know if the big band is real, we just guess by stuff science is found but there is not a 100% prove of that, I believe in it, obviously but we don't know. Going insane? well maybe, maybe not, who knows, I think that's a price I would pay
Bojan Babic Wait wait wait. Yes, these are theories, but as much theories as relativty, and if you tell me relativity is ''just a theory'' well, stop reading, you're a lost case. If not, these theories, yes, but that doesn't mean they're guesse, that's an hypothese. They're backed by fact. We don't know what will happen t the end of the universe, but it won't keep on going like it does, that is sure. You cannot say thermodynamics is jsut a thoery. What is sure is that the universe is going die, one way or another. Heat death, big rip, pendulum, in alll these secnario, the universe die at one point. That is a fact. And, in all these scenario, it stay that way for long enough for someone to go insane. Have you heard of ssensory deprivation? Google it. People go mad in days, you'd be that way for years.
(Please read this part) And, all of this actually doesn't matter. I talked about the death of the universe because it's the most extreme part of the scenario. In reality you'd go mad way before, even if the humans find some way to colonise the galazy. You'd end up on a cold rock with a dead star a long time before the end of the universe, even if taht rock isn't the earth. Whatever, you'd go insane.
+Superficially Steph gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8
sure, it'd be great, if nothing seriously bad happened to you. imagine if some twisted fuck kidnapped you and decided to put you in a metal box that he welds shut and buries you six feet (or more!) under. alive. oh, but you're immortal! you'll be okay! better wait still someone digs you out eventually. that's if they can find you, and if you're immortal, it'd probably happen at some point, but for how long? you'd be wishing for death. immortality is great, but the chances of getting stuck into a situation you'd be wishing for death grow. immortality does not mean you'll avoid these types of situations, and that's something to think about.
2:47 This gives me anxiety
They REALLLLY need to make a movie about this
There's video games. Play the Zero Escape series.
"They"
Vicente Endres That was a great series
It's called a rickle in time
Or write a book
Video starts at 0:00
Thanks, Max Power!
Max Amps How could we live without your comment?
Max Amps xD
Max Amps when he said it in the video I instantly paused it and went searching for this comment! You deserve a cookie sir!
Only if you are traveling slower than light. For the people that theoretically travel faster than light the video starts at 5:00 :P
It's a comforting thought for me that everyone I care about who has passed could still be alive and well in other parallel universes, even if its only theoretical.
My only problem with the thought experiment is everyone assumes that it means you're immortal in a mobile healthy intact body. The theory doesn't have to suggests that a gun will never fire, a normal gun could fire and take off your face, leaving you in a semi vegetative state for all eternity. It's the only flaw in my otherwise perfect dice gambling strategy. :-(
Imagine aging. That's the worst part of it.
Well you will only exist in the universe where you are able to think.
@@Monitice possible that you just reach a point in time where you just stop aging perhaps? We'd never know I guess until we reach unnatural levels of aging. And you'll be the only one to know or really all of us will just in our universe where we continue living but everyone else around you dying.
There's a universe where that happens. There is also a universe in which the gun never fires.
No....my son said what if you were drowning....like forever! 😮
Rule one of multi-world theory: Do not think about multi-world theory
People die when they are killed.
Really?
Woah.
@@atlas8838 you learn something new everyday, but this guy blew my mind
Mindblow
I didn't expect great thinkers on youtube.
Sir, please, my brain.
luka wood best comment😂😂😂😂
Ohhhh $crim
Quantum $uicide gang
😂
Quantum $ide $uicide
1:35 I have split many worlds countless ammounts of times by swipping either left or right on Tinder.
0:48 I watched entire Breaking Bad and I don't remember this quote
Jakub Wojciechowski 😂😂
Walt’s alter ego Heisenberg was actually named after that guy.
+FBI
r/wooosh?
Interesting it kind of applies to Walt's character trajectory. Every time you try to measure where he is as a person, he's off in another direction. Maybe I'm making something out of nothing, but with that show it's kind of hard to tell where the layers of symbolism actually end.
"Immortality sounds, uhh... kinda awful" Why is everyone in such a desperate need to die? Are all your lives really that shitty?
+Smonjirez Well compared with how good they COULD be, yes, and so is yours.
Melinda Green Of course. But dying takes away all the chances you have of improving your life.
+Smonjirez Certainly in those universes. But I'm probably misunderstanding your point. Who wants to die?
+Melinda Green...Sadly, lots of people....that's why the suicide rate is so high.
shrimpflea
I see. You're just talking about suicide in general and nothing to do with this video. I don't want to take this too off-topic but I'll just reply that I have mixed feelings. I agree that people often make bad decisions when choosing to end their lives early, but I also feel that it's sometimes the right choice when it becomes almost impossible to enjoy anything anymore. I hate death more than most people can realize but I'm also glad that there are legal and assisted ways to hasten death when and if I or anyone else needs it.
This gives me anxiety
I should point out that the many worlds theory doesn't deal with decisions by macro-scale people. It's entirely based on subatomic randomness, so the proton being spin up or spin down when measured means that another world was created where the spin points the other way. When you go to the edge of a cliff, your thoughts aren't "random", a series of algorithms in your brain create the thought process that leads you to make those decisions. Running those algorithms through your brain matter is unlikely to be influenced by the quantum randomness that would result in the creation of a "split" world
Just the Coolest Dude Yo however- what if the things which influence the brain's decisions are? What if the universe can predict itself in order to branch earlier? What if every branch happened at the start of the universe?
This. We still don't know how particles properties affects in a macro scale. Also looks like the particle doesn't have a sping until we measure it.
Well actually it's the other way around. Everything on a macroscale causes a split world, because the macro world is full of little "measurements". Everytime one atom of air bumps into another, that's a waveform collapse, a quantum measurement. In one liter of hydrogen there are 4.66 * 10^35 collisions per second, meaning that many "new worlds" are created.
Anthony Khodanian wow who discovered the air atom?
Stuxnet Jr I have made eassays of this thing since a lot of time, the universe has its fate made, since the Day 1
"What does it mean to be a person if there are so many versions of you?" Food for thought.
who got scared at the 3 2 1 part
me
Me to
talk about some jumpscare i thought of haha
Nobody.
The Piano Guy Potato me
"just a theory"
Stop
Just a theory.
better than some punk ass hypothesis
A Quantum Theory
Well in this case it *is* just a theory, in that it is not the theory espoused by the most scientists in the field. Technically correct, but isn't that the best kind of correct?
It's just a hypothesis, not "just a theory", you fuck.
"existential crisis" inbound
I was just standing around at work watching this and I thought well I'm going to punch myself in the face but just before I hit myself in the face I said no I'm not going to
am your work colleague, I was watching over your shoulder, I also thought about punching you in the face. I like to think there's now a universe where we both punched your face at the same time.
@@jessthehuman How this guy explained it was pretty bad. That's not how it works.
The video kind of glossed over what exactly is meant by choice. Kind of vague and central to the concept. He did say whenever anyone or anything makes a choice, so perhaps it just means whenever any quantifiable action is made by any particle in the universe, the universe duplicates. If that's the case, then why ever use such a misleading word as choice?
Correct
EE Ehrenberg Yeah, course if the world duplicated when you made a choice, then you could go on to say that souls are objects that interact with the world, or that there is such thing as a godly force in the universe driven by choice.
The universe splits whenever a quantum "observation/measurement/decision" occurs. Not whenever a person makes a choice.
The universe essentially duplicates at an infinitesimally small amount of 'time' at every moment whenever anything happens. Can somebody please tell me if this statement is correct inference.
Areez, Muhammad yee
I know I'm most probably very wrong, but if what he says is true, then in our own perspective, can we never die? Because we wouldn't know that we died because we're not conscious?
Justin Lai holy fuck
Justin Lai o-O
That's why it's called "immortality," obviously.
Hence why it brings up the question. Is anyone in the new universe actually them?
Then suiciding is Impossible!
Wow look at all the quantum physicists in the comments
Steve Wil You don't need to be a quantum physicist to understand infinity, this shit is easy.
+Onkledonk wow a wild quantum physicist
I mean, some of us do have degrees in physics lol
Yeah it's as easy as watching Rick and morty.
Steve Wil
*rick and morty fans
"if you don't like long answers, turn off the video now"
Breaking news: audience retention drops to 0
You've confused the uncertainty principle with the observer effect. The uncertainty principle is inherent, and doesn't rely on the act of measurement changing what is being measured.
+cortonimor
Thanks, I was also gonna mention that, if no one else did. He did get them confused. It's an easy thing to do. I have done it many times myself, but from those mistakes I found a reason to make sure I get it right. Heisenberg himself thought they were related, and tried to tie them together, which in the end with more data, was found to be a mistake. Uncertainty still applies to superposition, or anything which used quantum mechanics to calculate what some quantum phenomenon is doing. It's built into the procedure and logic, so it doesn't matter which interpretation of QM is used, Uncertainty is exactly the same in every scenario. It is the result of using something dimensionless to measure something which has a quantity, and as that dimensionless value changes, so does the outcome. It comes from the fact that QM uses wave-like operators, which requires that uncertainty be present.
Also, QM is not confined only to thought experiments. How that system works is you come up with a theory, you use that theory to calculate what something in the theory does, as precisely as you can, to determine values which can be tested. Then you do an experiment to determine whatever value or mechanism your theory predicted, and if it both agree to some large degree of accuracy, you can effectively argue at the very least that it is not wrong, or incorrect. Parts of QM still are only computable through those thought experiments, but the reason physicists like it is because it works much better than anything else we have ever tried. QED, for example predicted values so precisely and close to what experimental data provided, that it is regarded as the absolute best scientific theory anyone has ever come up with.
The Observer Effect does change with whatever your preferred QM interpretation, and was necessary for this, because this relies entirely on Everett's MWI. Still a great video, and I personally don't think it detracts from his point at all, but that it was explained incorrectly (by virtue of calling it the wrong thing) should be noted.
+evilcam Yup. Exactly. Glad someone else came up with the long-winded version. I was just too lazy to write more.
Your not immortal, you are just the one lucky person.
that random spanner that likes cheese
There comes a point where it's no longer luck. For example, you could even set it so there's a 0.1% chance it won't explode and if it doesn't explode 50 times how would you explain that?
sk0sH
True, but you'll never experience that because you'll always be the one who survived.
@sk0sH this theory is weird. Any of us could have died and went to a alternate universe. For example I had a head injury and blacked out for about 5 minutes therefore in this universe I lived and in the alternate universe I died? I better get off this video before I brainfuck myself
@sk0sH very very lucky. :)
*You’re
This thought experiment would only prove that you were extremely lucky for 300 seconds, not that you were immortal.
Odds like that don't just happen. You'd be immortal.
Sure they do, they are extremely unlikely though. But luck doesn't cancel out the physics, chemistry, and biology of ageing.
This.
It's like going to a tournament. There's always going to be a winner who will beat everyone else.
and that winner is death, lol.
I think it's numerical absurdity to parse a difference between 0.0000000000001 and zero. Not to mention 0.000001 or say 0.0(googol zeros)1...
This is where science starts to reach unprovable, yet possible theories
You confused the uncertainty principle with the observer effect :/
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Yes exactly!!
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What if the planet and the civilization that we live in got immortal via quantum suicide back in the 1960's cold war era?
I mean, the soviet submarines at Cuba got _pretty fucking close_ to actually firing a nuke.
omg
How do you type here in italic?
There are too many times we were saved from nuclear war by one lone Russian, it’s insane. Just from the top of my head: the Cuban missile crisis submarine, the time in 83 when everyone except one guy though the US had launched an attack, and there was something regarding a Norwegian missile in the 90’s. It was also thought to be an attack I think
0:33 "it's only a theory"
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS "only" A THEORY IN SCIENCE!!!
You might want to call it a hypothesis or something else. A theory is one of the highest "ranks" that can be achieved.
Yeah but if the point of science is to prove itself wrong then isn’t a theory just a more complicated hypothesis?
@@kylerbrown3202
No.
A theory is a confirmed explanation of facts (or observations).
For example: the theory of gravity is an explanation of how and why gravity works.
A hypothesis is a proposed explanation that has yet to be confirmed. It may or may not be supported by observations yet.
@@meyes1098 right but it can only be seen from a human perspective not an absolute one
This is why I subscribe to the statistical interpretation of quantum mechanics, since you don't run into silly paradoxes like these while also not having to posit fantastical things like infinite universes.
This video started at 00:00
I was trying to go to sleep...Why ? Why ?!
Common mischaracterisation of the uncertainty principle. It’s not because measurement changes position or momentum - though it can. Particles are uncertain because they are ‘smeared’ out probability waves, (roughly speaking), and as momentum increases the amount of smearing increases giving them a less ‘determined’ position - and vice versa. So quantum uncertainty isn’t a function of the observer-observed system, it’s an intrinsic property of particles themselves without which they would not be quanta.
Omg I was thinking about this for A long time now, And I didn't Know that it was a Thing and For a Second, I thought I was a Genius
I had no idea this was a thing I literally think about this every day
bitch bitch
Basically, a great way of rationalizing save-load mechanics in games.
why does nobody ever talk about old age
The universe just split when I made this comment there is now a universe where I did not make this comment... Your welcome
Dash Cole goat
There is a universe where I didn’t read the replies. You’re welcome.
There is also a universe where I did correct your spelling. You're welcome.
Dash Cole
You're* now there's a universe where I didn't correct your spelling but instead said "there's a universe where I corrected your spelling" and now there's a universe where I said "there's a universe where I corrected your spelling" and then followed up by saying "and now there's a universe where I didn't correct your spelling an- *fades into white noise* (I think that's what it's called)
There’s a universe where I didn’t make this reply, there is also one where I didn’t say what I did
I thought of this when I was like 7, in fact I think of things like this all the time I just thought it's crazy gibberish that I should keep to myself.
*Kim-Jong-Un watches video*
*Kim Jong-Un starts fapping*
Hold on, i've just created an alternate universe/timeline by writing this reply
WhenCowsFly The universe just split
Abdulmajid Nasir And again
Don’t mind me, imma just split the universe.
I came up with this theory in my head after watching some phineas and ferb multiverse episode years ago lol
you made my day
That is not how Heisenberg principle work. It's a common misconsection though. H principle says it's always impossible to know momentum and position at the same time, the observing bit it's not wrong but it has nothing to do with the principle
This theory literally suggests that you are immortal and so is everyone the only reason you don’t know anyone that is is because you live in the universe were they did die because the chance of even one surviving is infinity:1
No, its because you can know they died
Please Wendover Productions: I like your videos, but please don't give that ridiculous explanation of the Heisenberg uncertainty principle everyone else does. It's just plain wrong. It's a fundamental limit on the total uncertainty between position and momentum. It has nothing to do with trying to measure a particle's properties. You are describing the "observer effect," a completely separate phenomenon.
Finally!
I was scrolling down for ages looking for someone else who noticed.
Sooo... do you have any YT recommendations for the "right" way?
Your simple and clear explanation of the gist of Heisenberg's uncertainty principle is maybe the best I've ever heard. Most physicists get into the weeds and make it needlessly complex, while you put it into intuitive, almost obvious terms. Should be required listening for all the dippy types out there who think Heisenberg's work somehow proves that we control things by just looking at them. Very well done.
I probably already have died a hundred times.
More than a hundred
and lived millions of times. (yeah I know Im one year late idc)
"Only a theory" hate that expression.
Same. Almost made me shut off the video right then and there. Then he called it "The many worlds THEORY"... Ugh. It's a hypothesis, not a theory. Why do so many people get theory and hypothesis mixed up? It's not hard!
I swear the scientific method is taught in schools right? I'm pretty sure, it is.... like, goddamn.
Also I had the exact reaction, in fact, I think I did stop watching after that. >.>
I have a hard time listening to videos about any science from people who don't have some fundamental terminology down. People spend time editing these videos right? Do they hear themselves?? *sigh
People are just linguistically lazy. "Theory" is much easier to say than "hypothesis." The latter is also not common vernacular, and so suffers from "geek stink."
I prefer to say "I subscribe to the many-worlds *interpretation*."
I hate people who get pedantic over the definition of the word "theory". In all contexts except for scientific jargon, the word "theory" and the word "hypothesis" mean the exact same thing. The difference between those two words only matters if you're a scientist.
I'm speaking AS A PHYSICS MAJOR! Even in scientific environments, we still use the word "theory" relatively liberally. Stop getting bent out of shape just because someone who isn't a scientist used the word "theory" to describe something that hasn't been proven. It's really fucking annoying.
The video starts at 0:01
TasteTheRambo thx
so you gonna steal some more reddit posts, nukem?
Ty hx
@Josiah Perino thats not Nukem
This then means that everyone will be the first person to live forever in their own reality. Outlive everyone, this could be true, but I find it more plausible that we share the same consciousness and are reborn. Something along those lines.
I've been thinking about this A LOT lately. I was in a motorcycle accident last week, and I was thinking about all the other little decisions I made before the crash occurred. The idea that, there's a place where I didn't decide to wash my motorcycle before I went to go get food so that by the time I rolled up to the stop light it was red. Or being a green light instead of choosing to take the left lane I chose take the right lane which gave me a split second more time to react. Or if I went faster or slower. And in any one of those scenarios I could have died.
This theory assumes that free will is real, which hasn't been proven at all. In fact there's lots of evidence suggesting that it's nothing but an illusion.
When one of the premises is wrong altogether, you get crazy conclusions like this one with perfectly good logic.
Wtf happened here
The uncertainty principle and the observer effect are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. Your tennis ball example describes the observer effect; the uncertainty principle is more fundamental than that and has to do with the properties of waves.
You then explain MWI badly - universes don't split when someone makes a decision. Universes split all the time, whenever anything interacts with anything else.
Now that I've finished the video, your incorrect explanations of things didn't really matter to the conclusion. And the conclusion was vacuous: if you are alive, you haven't died. That's not immortality, that's a tautology.
Sadly most presenters of quantum physics theories grossly gloss over the facts and skip right to the fancy mind-boggling mental masturbation with an added bit of pseudo-philosophy
Actually this doesn’t seem to hard to grasp
BOB ROSS of course not for you Bob Ross...or should I say GOD!
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Wendover. I cannot explain how happy I was to see that the first random link I click on this topic led to one of your videos. Such a great channel!
Harry Potter and the Chamber of the Nuclear Bomb: The boy who lived
Or in Schrödinger’s case, the boy who lived and died simultaneously until observed.
When you talk about the quantum mechanics interpretations, you said "the many worlds theory" but i think it is more accurate to say "hypothesis" instead of "theory"
Even then, "hypothesis" wouldn't be accurate either because the only way to test this concept is through thought experiments. A hypothesis, by definition, must be testable. The expected concrete results produce the evidence for or against the hypothesis.
Now I feel bad for my family in different timelines. There was probably 1 or 2 situations where I should have died but didn't
Scary idea (existential trigger warning): If the concept is correct it might actually be a terrible curse. There would be no possibility of euthanasia! Some version of you will be literally unable to die. Even the corner cases like very near-death situations when you get horribly injured and are in pain.. but you still won't die. Uh..
That bomb effect looks real Metal Slug to me
Wolverine and Deadpool are examples of WHY I want to live forever.
how about when the suns englobes the earth? would you like to spend infinite time without oxygen drifting away in space?
+Red Wolf personally, I don't think that their healing factors can outmatch the destructive powers of the sun. but actually, watching the sun engulf the earth is one of the main reasons I want to stick around.
I rather live for as long as I want, not forever
... That initial example is the observer effect, not the uncertainty principle.
Yea
**Grabs explosive**
I KNOW WHAT I'M DOING THIS -potentially last- WEEKEND!
I have a theory that you don't know what theory means. Unfortunately for you, my theory is possible to test.
Its already been tested. In fact, its not a theory, its an undeniable fact.
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I have an observation that you don't know the difference between a theory based in math and one based in physics.
Yep. Destroyed his entire channel’s credibility. As Richard Feynman put it, quantum mechanics (specifically quantum electrodynamics) is the best-tested theory in the world. I’ve unsubbed and marked half a dozen videos on my front page ‘not interested because of the channel’.
I'd say perhaps thou art too harsh. Even the best of people get things wrong at times. I find Wendover very good and informative when he speaks of economics and certain geo-political subjects.If I have a history text book that has a few dates wrong, but everything else like the people, leaders and socio-political matters and explainations correct, it does not immediately discredit the entire book. Just as a Textbook having all the dates correct but the key information wrong does not mean the book is gospel. We have to pick and evaluate the topics as they are presented and not entirely discredit a good channel for a few videos that don't meet the same standard as the rest. Clearly Quantum Physics is not this guy's forte. I do however enjoy the many of the other videos he uploads.
The video starts at 3:19
I'll have you know that Heisenberg actually said "I'm the one who knocks", thank you, sir
Your measurement explanation was amazing. I never thought of measuring an object as changing it. Even less the idea of measuring a particle.
1:41, so every time I'm going to pull of that suicide burn in KSP the universe is duplicated?
*alrighty mate*
If this is true then I have caused so much pain for my family. In all of those other realities they must have saw me die because of my choices going wrong .
2:15 "nearly infinite". Hmm...
I’ve constructed my own WIP theory of the universe, it ties to this, string theory, and the concept that TIME is our fourth dimension.
Instead of the individual 3D objects around us having an extra incomprehensible dimension, said dimension is instead the entirety of the third, every one of those 3D objects counted for as one world- only expanded in its entirety, or somewhat multiplied.
As if observing the thread of time as more of an infinite sheet weaved with infinite separate threads.
Since these strings represent time however, each one is its own individual TIMELINE.
Like how a decision makes a split in the quantum immortality theory, but the decisions whittle down to the smallest changes.
Two of these strings can play out near identically, minus one little decision from one singular consciousness. And some are wildly foreign to think about, which yes, means some string out there would include the experiment talked about in this video.
A universal scale system of butterfly effects spawning entire new realities.
We live in only one of these realities, and comprehend/ observe the fourth dimension of time only as we see it.
Our single, forward leading string.
This is so hard to put into words but take the word vomit ig
This is one really cool theory
Also what happens with the Schrödinger’s cat theory
as someone who has thought about suicide this is deeply unsettling
"as someone who has though about suicide" pfp checks out, cant even spell
@@paintyxd how?
Serial Killer: Killing multiple people in your world who are not you.
Parallel Killer: Killing multiple people in other worlds who are you.
I learned almost nothing useful from this video, yet, I feel smarter.
I thought about these ideas (especially the last 2) long before I even knew English, like since I was at primary schools. I can remember very well discussing these with my brother. If it was so easy for a kid to thought about it, could it be some kind of thinking pattern, that all of us are falling for? Especially the many-worlds theory, I have a direct experience with it in my first - (and last) shroom trip, which actually cause me an existential crisis and some panic attacks ever since. And shrooms/psychedelics kind of get us fall in to patterns. Because these ideas have already had their own paths in our heads? If we couldn't prove it the other way then there's no way to find out the truth? That feels really unsettling.
this theory has always made me pretty sad.. one time i was about to hang myself in my closet but instead I ended up regaining my sanity last minute. If i had died (which i theoretically did) then that would mean my mom would have found my body and would have blamed herself for my decision. We were going through a pretty hard time then and I can't even imagine the pain I left my mother in when we were already going through hell.. This makes me realize how selfish it is to even start planing your own suicide. Even if you don't die there's a reality where you did and left those who cared about you in grief. While that wouldn't be relevant in your new existence the people who care for you still suffer somewhere. ever since i realized this is a very posible function of life while tripping on lsd I've tried my hardest to always have the best intentions in mind and try to always consider how my actions would affect others.
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woah you're so cool
I'm not particularly religious, but this is where I feel like Jesus and basically being a good person comes into play. Being selfless in all actions and showing compassion and unconditional love is what you're like supposed to do, but we usually don't do that. We wait for someone else to, and it usually doesn't happen. We shouldn't ignore signs, you end up doing a disservice to everyone around you, including yourself and the universe. I always interpreted Jesus and stories of a kind of "chosen one" of that to just be internalized.
This makes me sad..
very good point, but then again there is no evidence to back the many worlds hypothesis up, so we could just be the only universe. Still, interesting thought!
If you get up extra early, work out, do all your tasks ahead of time, be 100% more productive than you thought possible, do something great for your loved ones, go for an evening run, eat only health food... just for 1 day, you will know its possible. You can go back to being a slouch. But you will know that every day that kind of day is possible. And somewhere out there a version of you did it. And somewhere out there, a 1 in a 10 million version of you has hit this kind of home run for 1000 days consecutively. And you can think about them, and be like, wow, good for them.
This is kinda strange. I have had dreams about this concept, (lives continuing in a reality where a different outcome was possible) and I have had moments (in conscious life) where I thought that I should have died and it seemed really strange as each moment gave me the same sort of feeling. Trippy. More thoughts to fuel my crazy dreams. Also, wouldn't you only remain immortal as long as you continued this process and untill you would die from some other cause? You would still be biologically prone to cellular death unless your cells were immortal. Starvation, another, (less quantum) bomb going off, lots of other things could kill you. Based on this theory of divergent lives, you are still restricted by the laws of nature so eventually you would hit a dead end. Really makes me feel like we are just some simulation.
This literally summarizes every theory I have about existence..
Am I the only one that calls bullshit on parallel universe theories? I mean Heizenberg’s theory (sorry if misspelled) makes sense but how did we get from there to “spliting universes” were matter is made out of nothing
Look up the double slit experiment
This video misstated what the many worlds interpretation actually represents. It does not state that every decision splits the universe. It merely states that every time a quantum phenomena in superposition is measured, the universe will split into every possibility the measurement could've taken. It will not lead to you making different decisions in different worlds, unless some rare quantum phenomena in your brain caused you to make two different decisions.
On regards to the validity of the interpretation...well, it's just that, an interpretation. You don't have to believe it as truth as it is not a proven fact (at least not yet). Just that certain individuals in the scientific community choose to subscribe to this interpretation of quantum mechanics, but there are others.
There’s this question I keep thinking about that every time I bring it up my friends get intrigued. “What if you get sleep paralysis at night, and during it you see the most terrifying and horrific things in front of you that if you could you’d scream until you fainted (of course being paralyzed, you can’t), but then when the paralysis ends you go back to sleep and forget it the next morning? And this happens every day?”
Then cool I guess
Yoooo I’ve been keeping this thought in the back of my head for years I NEVER KNEW IT WAS QUANTUM MECHANICS I KNEW THIS ALREADY WTFFF
in the Copenhagen interpretation, if the proton's spin value let you live, then, as the wave function collapse is irreversible, wouldn't it always guarantee your survival, every next time the proton is tested?
The experiment would use a different proton for every time you wanted to do the experiment again.