EDIT: Currently, I am being threatened and doxxed. People are telling me they know where I live and that there will be consequences. I will be contacting local law enforcement shortly. EDIT2: I had to visit my local law enforcement office because my location was leaked. Since it’s a matter of cybercrime, I had to answer many questions about things I didn’t even know existed. It’s not as straightforward as dealing with real-life issues. I’ll update later tonight. PART1: th-cam.com/video/UceY_8E7SQo/w-d-xo.html
Apollyon thank you for making a stand. Interesting how deep this appears to go. Blizzard's inaction at this point means that they are either complicit or they are willfully naive. If it's against the ToS, it's against the ToS.
Damn, Apollyon woke up and chose violence today. Great video. We had a mass migration on Sunday because of it. A lot of people left. A lot of long-time server personalities. It's unfortunate. If you aren't in any of the six clans, you don't get to be Immortal. Locking out the rest of the people that will never get to experience that side of the game. It's a shame.
Gained a TON of respect for you for making this video. Don’t cave to the corruption within the game. We need more big voices shining light on this. Thank you!
Thank you for bringing this up. This is happening on my server cluster as well in the EU. The end result is that one person who is buying these accounts ruins the game for hundreds of other players. The developers don't know this negatively affect players' experience, thus leads to them leaving the server or even the game. Please continue championing this!
Mine as well, watching legit spenders leave left and right. Pilots are taking over, only a matter of time before they leave to greener pastures looking for competition; thus killing the server.
Finally a DI content creator with integrity, and not too much of a coward to actually call this out, and actually tell people what is going on. Much respect Apollyon. You're one of the few DI content creators that I will sub, and listen to at this point. Thanks for being real man.
First off, kudos to you Apollyon, for having the conviction to stand up for your beliefs. I, along with many others share your opinions and feelings. Thanks for having the courage to speak out. Now, about community pressure as suggested by Antiself2397. . The community needs to quit playing, charge back 2 years worth of game expenses, bury the bastards with mail that requires a response and ask a question at the General meeting with the news media alerted in advance for each possible course of action. If you inconveniece the CEO or COO with a ton of extra work they weren't expecting, diminish their revenue stream, claw back as much as you can from your payment provider and embarass the company at the AGM, we might get action. p.s. This was a wall of text outlining the strategies I mentioned above but after reviewing it, I didn't feel I wanted to come across as a raging anarchist. So I cut it out. If you saw the original, you know what I mean.
I'm in your cluster brother and just wanted to let you know that you are not alone in this...at least I should say you have more allies who are continuously fighting against this meathead. You are the first to really open up about this subject where OTHER content creators are either afraid to talk about it or continue to discuss it or had there pockets loaded with hush money ( speculation). Keep an eye out for us...we got your back
Seriously!!!!!! ATTN: its happening everywhere not just this server cluster... kincaid follows beanz but now there is a lull in that. The whole business model is to piss people off so.they get mad, quit and he buys thier account for cheap. This dude kincaid belongs in prison. He is ruining people's lives and happiness.
Blizz wont do anything. This has been an issue for a while now. He and other's just keep getting away with this. Thats why ive stopped spending money in the game and just continue to have fun with the friends that havent left our server yet. Appreciate you talking about this, however blizz dont care. They wont stop it and it will only get worse.
Lol... they are upset because they are doing something against the terms "allegedly." Our server is dying quickly. Wonder how many more clans will leave due to all the toxicity. Good stuff
Similar issue on my server that is only getting worse. Thank you for putting the spotlight on this and please do everything you can to make Blizzard take action against people that break ToS like this
Props big guy!! I was day 1 on iceburn and left 6 months into it cause it was soooo toxic even before any mergers. Been on the west coast and our server seems pretty chill. I wanted to go back east cause i like the war time better but so far Eternal Conflict and my "home" server are making me think i should just stay put.
Amen to all of it Apollyon! The ringleaders should be banned, all the bought and sold accounts should be shut down, hopefully Blizz will actually act to fix this situation. Keep fighting the good fight, I appreciate it.
Hi, first time commenting - its disappointing to hear this type of behavior occurs in servers (particular threats/doxing) and it really takes away the positive good experiences of playing the game. Please keep up the good work and all the best. Cheers
I am a proud subber of yours. These ppl are nothing but COWARDS! You have a lot of fans in here, brother. Don't lose faith. See you in game again, soon, I hope.
#blizzard #diabloimmortal #netease should look at how these players are blatantly violating the game terms of service and worse making the whole game TOXIC and screwing the reputation of #blizzard #diabloimmortal #netease - mass players won't play #blizzard games anymore. I am so sick of this happening in my server, #diabloimmortal has just become more political than my office WTH I play a game to escape that!!
WTF? I threatned Voldemort in my server, a 10k reso guy who is trying to sell his acc for 5k € [Stonebreath - Fara server] best of all he admitted to buy orbs to susan; I reported all evidence to blizzard to ban him ASAP
Stay safe bro. This shet happening in every region, every server. Community is fighting for their right and justice while blizzard/netease is silent about these?
Hmmmm, the rich ruining the fun for everyone else, sounds a bit like real life. We all from your server know who you are talking about, and honestly I don't understand WHY someone would invest so much energy into making it a miserable experience for everyone else.
What does TH-cam’s policy say that would prevent you from going into more detail with evidence, as long as personal identifiers are properly redacted? Legally, one might think of defamation and similar civil offenses. The only possibly relevant case I’m remotely familiar with is the depp v heard libel trial, in which the jury had to determine that heard’s words were a) specifically about depp, and b) false. I’ve heard that such legal standards are higher for public figures, so I don’t know if you can be sued for saying completely true negative things about someone who isn’t a public figure. A topic for research.
The individuals in question claimed that because of these videos, some people are now after them, and it is serious. The documents and evidence were provided to DI CM.
A few players discusted the fact that he may be a blizzard/net ease dev that allow him to "grind" reso faster..you putted your finger into something huge brother..miseryhateco found out the hard way. Dont kneel to those cheaters 🤜🤛
Hey bro, don’t worry about his threats. I got threatened with a defamation suit by him lol. Defamation is incredibly hard to prove and he believes no one else has wealth and lawyers on retainer. He believes he can bully most people and they usually cave. As far as being doxxed? My life is an open book and I’m not afraid of my real information being out there. Then again it’s up to everyone to make that decision for themselves. The people who know me know it’s a waste of time to threaten me in game or in person. I don’t know your situation but maybe it’s best you talk to someone. Your not the only one he’s threatened and I would worry about it. He’s just upset. He should be happy Beanz is all done now and go about enjoying game time and life.
Honestly this just sounds like you upset other didn’t spend the same time to get where they bought the account, I agree they shouldn’t buy accounts, but don’t see how this effects me as a player, my clan as a whole, or our chances at wars. If you could explain how it affects the players, not just say that it does, I would appreciate it!
If you can't compete in the RoE. Because clans like NWO have six clans. Then you'll never have immortal reign or have a chance at the RoE. Therefore. You'll be always sitting there getting smashed by whales and getting outmatched any time your marks get high enough because they all have 10-11k reso. Tell me how that would not affect your experience unless you're not even in the top 10 then it doesn't really relate to you. You will just get your free win on Thursday and get smashed on Saturday
Bro these whales clans choose who gets to be immortal. The fights are a sham. If you clan doesn’t have a bunch of whales or are allied with one of the big whale clans you simply have no chance of ever becoming immortal. This is how it affects you and your clan.
@ I guess, but let’s be real the majority of players would never be immortals the game itself is pay to win, you can spend a million dollars and get the best gear. Unfortunately it’s the game.
You don’t explain how its effects war, clans, or players. You just claim that it does, I’ve been playing since day 1 with breaks here and there, been free to play, and was a part of a top 10 guild. How does this affect other players? You say it does but don’t say how or why you think that.
So only the top 10 clans qualify for Rite of Exile each week. What's happening is a certain very powerful alliance is filling multiple shadow clans with their own people to protect their current immortal reign. When those dummy clans finish within the top 10 and make Rite of Exile, they essentially throw the match to the immortal clans who they are allied with. This artificially extends immortal reigns and keeps legitimate shadow clans from being able to participate in Rite. Because the dummy shadow clans have to be pretty strong to finish within the top 10, the alliance has to bring in whales from other servers, distribute purchased whale accounts, and shift their members between allied clans. How much this affects any individual player varies, but it's certainly angered enough people on my server to cause an exodus of top 10 clans, both those who can finish within the top 10 despite the dummy clans, and those who can no longer compete for top 10 due to the dummy clans. This also happened on my previous server, causing a similar exodus. The other side of this is the only way non-allied clans can become immortal is by bargaining with the dominant alliance. For those who actually enjoy the competitive aspect of the Cycle of Strife, this probably really impacts their enjoyment of the game. Personally, after two and a half years, I'm sort of over the shadow/immortal thing, but I can understand why those who still enjoy it are upset.
@ can you share transactions or something linking the accounts? I play on gidbinn and have been a part of fairly competitive clans. It would be awesome to know how to find this out
Quite funny that he and his former clan Unforgiven talks as if they are the victim and pure on this matter. Unforgiven as a top10 whale clan has many bought accounts too and some raised reso via 3rd party like others. This is like which side brings more whales to win lmao. Can you really blame one side ?
fairly easy to toss accusations around - Unforgiven is hardly a top 10 whale clan - yes it has whales, yes it is a Top 10 Shadow clan (thanks to 100 members contributing shadow points and winning weekly shadow wars), but it cannot put 8 x 10k players in a ROE. You sound like one of the apologists we hear in WC. "kincaid who? what you talking about Bro"
@DI_experiences_observations let's be honest, Unforgiven has been top 3 for all vigil vob 3 matches, and even brought Insidiae and Vengeance clan whales ( I know because I was there) including bought accounts, pilot accounts, etc. Did this youtuber really stand up there saying we shouldn't do this? This guy cannot talk anything about it or you are just crying after losing and leaving the clan. But you and your group did the same way and not innocent from this issue lol. I agreed when Echogaming mentioning this. When this guy brings this matter, I'm like wtf.
@@YiPhi-l7v you are a straight up LIAR - Unforgiven Vengeance and Insidiae are in an Alliance - own towers together, fight to be Immortals / Serve as Immortrals as an alliance of 3. With a Year in Vengenance / Nova and year previous in Nova - there are NO drivers 'ETC' in Vengenance and Unforgiven. We are NOT bringing in bought accounts to the server. We are not running gems and plat bots. ONE time all our whales moved into Unforgiven to try and stop Immortals from going 3-0 in Blades and getting a huge bonus in ROE fights moving forward. That we had to bring whales from 3 clans to match up with Kincaids paid accounts speak VOLUMES and highlights the crap your are spouting. Unfortunately BELLUM was throwing Blades fights (going 0-3 then Miracle! 4-0 during ROE) - Maybe you are in Bellum? Maybe you are 'buddies' with Kincaid? Fairly certain that none of this has to do with the Clans your running down. As a final point - Vengenace and Insidae are leaving this server - Kincaid was talking to our leadership just this week - 'all will be ok, will be moving on, no control over other clans, was just a continuing vendatta with Beanz - all crap, all misdirection we have heard before. Nova moved from Fallen just over a year ago to get away from bought whale accounts / imported drivers and Win tradiing. Vengeance will split and Nova will reconsitute on a competitive server.
Such a strange situation, you have all these low life pay to winners crying because someone paid harder to win? Us free to play players are still enjoying the game, we just ignore your immortal and pay 2 win drama! Honestly i think it’s hilarious, crying about a strategy you under utilized!?! You know the deal losers, bust out your credit cards and get back to winning!!! So we can continue to make fun of you! 😂❤😂❤
Win trading is for losers who don't really play the game and they just want to pose as the big dogs but they really aren't the big dogs because if it came down to it they couldn't last a second and Warcraft 3 starcraft or any of the other blizzard games so they get stuck in this crappy niche game
Don't blame the player, blame the game. Blessed reign is a terrible mechanic. People want big capes, and rotating 7-week reigns is the ONLY way to get it. That's all it is.
You blame the criminal first, before the law comes into play. But rest assured, its getting reported to. No one should feel comfortable anymore breaking TOS
@@ApollyonGaming Even if you get rid of all account buying, you'll still end up with servers controlled by six whale clans and allied Shadows throwing matches. That's just what the blessed reign system pushes players to do.
@@ApollyonGaming I actually work for Blizzard R&D for Diablo Immortal, the topic of account sharing and win trading is something thats been spoken about at nausea for almost 2 years now. I can tell you for sure they aren't ever going to do anything about it. Most every game similar has ToS written the same way as the ToS for DI and noone from any company I've ever worked for enforces this. Simple explanation, if you eliminated these accounts, no more money from those accounts flow in. These accounts typically have 75k to 175k USD put into them, they wont get rid of them because the rest of the population will spend towards competing with those accounts. They wouldnt leave the game to players with 5k and under investments because they have 2 years of data saying you wont spend on their product like those accounts have. Its the sad and true reality of the entire gaming industry.. its a business, its not about happy players.
in mine opinion selling account is not against TOS, example i buy a lambo n drives it, next day i sell it n buys an Koenigsegg thats faster more powerful, is nothing wrong in, if you look at 9k+ resos they sell for 11 000 euro kind of 11k around 50k euro i could afford both in end of days this accounts spent way more than that. (will never do ain't worth it!) aah 8-9k reso for 10k euro is bargain bro, they probably spent 4times more, its like a car brand new al flashy today, tomorrow in end of day as soon u rolled it out of garage it lost 25% value, its the blizz netease plan to endless pit, i feel ya frustration, netease is a greedy company every tos have lopholes just like laws have
Blizzard TOS: Quote "Scamming, account sharing, and win-trading" This is a reminder and warning that if we find any account engaged in the following-or any other prohibited activity described in the Blizzard End User License Agreement-we will apply either a temporary suspension or a permanent ban." End Quote. I don't need to say anything myself.
I also agree with Blizzard TOS but reality game is dying, people are quitting, maybe Netease/Blizz ignore TOS cause its still better for players buying accounts at least they might still spending. The only way to stop this is to make easier,cheaper, faster for new players/existing players to do upgrade. It doest make sense by spending USD200 you can get 3k reso account compared to upgrading the normal way you will not get 3k reso by spending USD 200.
answers like this are just stupid. what better for bliz? a player who begins and buying orbs? or a player who bought an account with maybe 10k reso and DONT buy orbs bcuz its enough inside ? brains on pls
@@jonathancermak8551 if you have USD 10000, its still cheaper buying 10k reso and upgrade to 11k 12 k reso in the future than starting new trying to get to 10k reso with USD 10.000.
@@jonathancermak8551 of course it still benefit Blizz, if Im a new player with USD 500 budget, I can spend USD 200 to get 3k reso account and still has USD 300 to spend in game, thats the reality in this game now if we like it or not. If you start from 0, you wont be able to reack 3k reso with USD 500. Nothing new at all in this industry, it also happened with all online games.
He chased beanz around because of what they were doing on other servers. Beanz has disbanded so he will probably stop soon. This is something that happens in all p2w games, need to get used to it and just enjoy playing the game. If these people wanna pay ungodly amounts money to do this, let them
EDIT: Currently, I am being threatened and doxxed. People are telling me they know where I live and that there will be consequences. I will be contacting local law enforcement shortly.
EDIT2: I had to visit my local law enforcement office because my location was leaked. Since it’s a matter of cybercrime, I had to answer many questions about things I didn’t even know existed. It’s not as straightforward as dealing with real-life issues. I’ll update later tonight.
PART1: th-cam.com/video/UceY_8E7SQo/w-d-xo.html
Apollyon thank you for making a stand. Interesting how deep this appears to go.
Blizzard's inaction at this point means that they are either complicit or they are willfully naive.
If it's against the ToS, it's against the ToS.
Stay strong brother. I'm rooting for you! Don't cave to these Aholes.
If anyone has a problem with Apollyon don’t threaten him come threaten me an see what’s up yuh not bout that life internet warriors 💯
It is shame people harassing you.
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Damn, Apollyon woke up and chose violence today. Great video. We had a mass migration on Sunday because of it. A lot of people left. A lot of long-time server personalities. It's unfortunate. If you aren't in any of the six clans, you don't get to be Immortal. Locking out the rest of the people that will never get to experience that side of the game. It's a shame.
Gained a TON of respect for you for making this video. Don’t cave to the corruption within the game. We need more big voices shining light on this. Thank you!
A lot of pressure on creators atm who talking about this.
@@ApollyonGaming indeed. Misery hates company got kicked from clan in relation to this topic.
@@ApollyonGamingThey have no power to silence people. Fear no man! 👊
@@ApollyonGamingunlike others that just echo random nonsense….
@ToastedOJ , I see what you did there , and I like it.
Thank you for bringing this up. This is happening on my server cluster as well in the EU. The end result is that one person who is buying these accounts ruins the game for hundreds of other players. The developers don't know this negatively affect players' experience, thus leads to them leaving the server or even the game. Please continue championing this!
The devs know
Mine as well, watching legit spenders leave left and right. Pilots are taking over, only a matter of time before they leave to greener pastures looking for competition; thus killing the server.
Man, you're on fire! Finally, a contact creator standing up to these cheaters. I love it! Keep doing what you do, Apollyon!
Finally a DI content creator with integrity, and not too much of a coward to actually call this out, and actually tell people what is going on. Much respect Apollyon. You're one of the few DI content creators that I will sub, and listen to at this point. Thanks for being real man.
Jinn you are correct and Beanz Club Forever
Czar KoolBeanz approves
He’s controlling other servers as well, not just the ones he talks about. Tree of Inifus, and that cluster as well.
As a community we need to put pressure on net ease/blizzard to put more game mechanics in place to safeguard against win trading.
I agree with this.
First off, kudos to you Apollyon, for having the conviction to stand up for your beliefs. I, along with many others share your opinions and feelings. Thanks for having the courage to speak out.
Now, about community pressure as suggested by Antiself2397.
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The community needs to quit playing, charge back 2 years worth of game expenses, bury the bastards with mail that requires a response and ask a question at the General meeting with the news media alerted in advance for each possible course of action. If you inconveniece the CEO or COO with a ton of extra work they weren't expecting, diminish their revenue stream, claw back as much as you can from your payment provider and embarass the company at the AGM, we might get action.
p.s. This was a wall of text outlining the strategies I mentioned above but after reviewing it, I didn't feel I wanted to come across as a raging anarchist. So I cut it out. If you saw the original, you know what I mean.
Agreed 💯
I'm in your cluster brother and just wanted to let you know that you are not alone in this...at least I should say you have more allies who are continuously fighting against this meathead. You are the first to really open up about this subject where OTHER content creators are either afraid to talk about it or continue to discuss it or had there pockets loaded with hush money ( speculation). Keep an eye out for us...we got your back
So, where is BLIZZARD doing about this? 😅
That's a very good question...where and what is Blizzard doing about this?
"free Max account" would quiet many loud voices.
That's a fact...just to be relevant
You’re the man Apollo. Call it like IT IS 👊
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Seriously!!!!!! ATTN: its happening everywhere not just this server cluster... kincaid follows beanz but now there is a lull in that. The whole business model is to piss people off so.they get mad, quit and he buys thier account for cheap. This dude kincaid belongs in prison. He is ruining people's lives and happiness.
and thats way buyers and traders should get banned.
Didn't Beanz just move their clan and allies TO his home server?? I don't think he's following them anymore.
@John-l8t5y they disbanded and split to another server now.
@@joey6607 beanz had interal conflicts and most of them left, they were just on my server "last vestiage" and spread off.
Yeah but they never followed Beanz, Beanz came to the server to fight with Kincaid and try to shuffle things up
Blizz wont do anything. This has been an issue for a while now. He and other's just keep getting away with this. Thats why ive stopped spending money in the game and just continue to have fun with the friends that havent left our server yet. Appreciate you talking about this, however blizz dont care. They wont stop it and it will only get worse.
This is 100% accurate, sucks that they view him as such a huge spender. I wish they would ban his account and any accounts associated with him.
HELL YA - loved the intro. Agree with all.
Lol... they are upset because they are doing something against the terms "allegedly." Our server is dying quickly. Wonder how many more clans will leave due to all the toxicity. Good stuff
Should just IP address ban him from all accounts he has ever touched and logged into once.
Huge respect, Apollyon. Kincaid must fall.
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Similar issue on my server that is only getting worse. Thank you for putting the spotlight on this and please do everything you can to make Blizzard take action against people that break ToS like this
If you ask me people buying plat is what kills the game not people selling their account
Props big guy!! I was day 1 on iceburn and left 6 months into it cause it was soooo toxic even before any mergers. Been on the west coast and our server seems pretty chill. I wanted to go back east cause i like the war time better but so far Eternal Conflict and my "home" server are making me think i should just stay put.
Thank you for posting the video despite the threat. I hope all of their groups are banned.
i like when the Clan owners switch clans to help other gain immortal. Bravo to the true players
That music is 🏆
Amen to all of it Apollyon! The ringleaders should be banned, all the bought and sold accounts should be shut down, hopefully Blizz will actually act to fix this situation. Keep fighting the good fight, I appreciate it.
Hi, first time commenting - its disappointing to hear this type of behavior occurs in servers (particular threats/doxing) and it really takes away the positive good experiences of playing the game. Please keep up the good work and all the best. Cheers
I am a proud subber of yours. These ppl are nothing but COWARDS! You have a lot of fans in here, brother. Don't lose faith. See you in game again, soon, I hope.
I. NEED. THAT. SONG. 😭😭😭
@@ApollyonGaming I'm serious lol, where can I get it, jokes aside the instrumentals sound really epic
😂😂😂😂 “oops wrong song”
I thought, I cut that part out
@ApollyonGaming I appreciate you and your content. Thanks for keeping it real on this topic. 💯 ❤️
#blizzard #diabloimmortal #netease should look at how these players are blatantly violating the game terms of service and worse making the whole game TOXIC and screwing the reputation of #blizzard #diabloimmortal #netease - mass players won't play #blizzard games anymore. I am so sick of this happening in my server, #diabloimmortal has just become more political than my office WTH I play a game to escape that!!
Just saw echos video just now! I appreciate you and will continue to support you! Hope this finds you safe and well sir
WTF? I threatned Voldemort in my server, a 10k reso guy who is trying to sell his acc for 5k € [Stonebreath - Fara server] best of all he admitted to buy orbs to susan; I reported all evidence to blizzard to ban him ASAP
The intro song is pure gold 😂😂
Laufykins luvs it Appo. Keep this şhit up bruv😅
Eee eee
Stay safe bro. This shet happening in every region, every server. Community is fighting for their right and justice while blizzard/netease is silent about these?
Great!! finally people are seeing the shit thats been going on. Kin is a clown 🤡. Never give in! Join the resistance.
The reasoning is power hungry. He wants everyone to kiss his feet and beg for a reign. Also blizzard will do nothing because they make money off it
Amazing that for money 💰, even Blizzard don't care.....
@@DavidSanchez-yv5gnThe game is non canon blizzard don'tcare they got their 💅
If you say his Name 3x in your Computer Monitor with it turned Off, he'll h4x your Account...
Lot of players going to our server cuz of it , they came from doom , 200 players came together in our server
Hmmmm, the rich ruining the fun for everyone else, sounds a bit like real life. We all from your server know who you are talking about, and honestly I don't understand WHY someone would invest so much energy into making it a miserable experience for everyone else.
What does TH-cam’s policy say that would prevent you from going into more detail with evidence, as long as personal identifiers are properly redacted?
Legally, one might think of defamation and similar civil offenses. The only possibly relevant case I’m remotely familiar with is the depp v heard libel trial, in which the jury had to determine that heard’s words were a) specifically about depp, and b) false. I’ve heard that such legal standards are higher for public figures, so I don’t know if you can be sued for saying completely true negative things about someone who isn’t a public figure. A topic for research.
The individuals in question claimed that because of these videos, some people are now after them, and it is serious. The documents and evidence were provided to DI CM.
On Hemlir-Server its the same. One Person is Controlling 3 Whale-Clans with community Chars
Good video Apollyon ❤
Thanks bro
Easy money gang gang
@kunoislayr3651 gang ❤️
I need this song
I need it just to play in the backround as people flood my server from iceberg because of kincaid
Supposedly Voldemort is coming to HH.
@@xriskuhe is in darkening of tristam/ tree of infusius/greed/fallen/risen/prime evils cluster rn.
@@xrisku he has a clan in HH named Forbidden City . Same allied clans nobody can beat them .
$20k is $20k
Thank you for doing this.
Ban them all, get the afk farmers too
They are not going to do that, because Blizzard is making money out of THIS.
Glory to me alliance!
Servers are shredding all over the world.
Some more than others.
A few players discusted the fact that he may be a blizzard/net ease dev that allow him to "grind" reso faster..you putted your finger into something huge brother..miseryhateco found out the hard way. Dont kneel to those cheaters 🤜🤛
Hey bro, don’t worry about his threats. I got threatened with a defamation suit by him lol. Defamation is incredibly hard to prove and he believes no one else has wealth and lawyers on retainer. He believes he can bully most people and they usually cave. As far as being doxxed? My life is an open book and I’m not afraid of my real information being out there. Then again it’s up to everyone to make that decision for themselves. The people who know me know it’s a waste of time to threaten me in game or in person. I don’t know your situation but maybe it’s best you talk to someone. Your not the only one he’s threatened and I would worry about it. He’s just upset. He should be happy Beanz is all done now and go about enjoying game time and life.
I just want to know who to report.
Thank you.
Respect +
*grabs popcorn*
"Kincaid" is a pseudonym - it's not his real name, similar to how "Joker" isn't his real name. 😅
I mean who uses their real name in a game?
He doesnt even use Kincaid in game. Wanna really piss him off, post his in-game names.
@@xrisku HX /"changing content"
@@xriskuwhich ones are there I feel like starting stuff😂😂
keep it uo bro nice job ban that idiot😂
Honestly this just sounds like you upset other didn’t spend the same time to get where they bought the account, I agree they shouldn’t buy accounts, but don’t see how this effects me as a player, my clan as a whole, or our chances at wars.
If you could explain how it affects the players, not just say that it does, I would appreciate it!
If you can't compete in the RoE. Because clans like NWO have six clans. Then you'll never have immortal reign or have a chance at the RoE. Therefore. You'll be always sitting there getting smashed by whales and getting outmatched any time your marks get high enough because they all have 10-11k reso.
Tell me how that would not affect your experience unless you're not even in the top 10 then it doesn't really relate to you.
You will just get your free win on Thursday and get smashed on Saturday
Bro these whales clans choose who gets to be immortal. The fights are a sham. If you clan doesn’t have a bunch of whales or are allied with one of the big whale clans you simply have no chance of ever becoming immortal. This is how it affects you and your clan.
@ I guess, but let’s be real the majority of players would never be immortals the game itself is pay to win, you can spend a million dollars and get the best gear. Unfortunately it’s the game.
Time to @Coffeezilla this guy
Come to Lysander brother,you will enjoy it for real!!!!!
You don’t explain how its effects war, clans, or players. You just claim that it does, I’ve been playing since day 1 with breaks here and there, been free to play, and was a part of a top 10 guild.
How does this affect other players? You say it does but don’t say how or why you think that.
So only the top 10 clans qualify for Rite of Exile each week. What's happening is a certain very powerful alliance is filling multiple shadow clans with their own people to protect their current immortal reign. When those dummy clans finish within the top 10 and make Rite of Exile, they essentially throw the match to the immortal clans who they are allied with. This artificially extends immortal reigns and keeps legitimate shadow clans from being able to participate in Rite. Because the dummy shadow clans have to be pretty strong to finish within the top 10, the alliance has to bring in whales from other servers, distribute purchased whale accounts, and shift their members between allied clans. How much this affects any individual player varies, but it's certainly angered enough people on my server to cause an exodus of top 10 clans, both those who can finish within the top 10 despite the dummy clans, and those who can no longer compete for top 10 due to the dummy clans. This also happened on my previous server, causing a similar exodus. The other side of this is the only way non-allied clans can become immortal is by bargaining with the dominant alliance. For those who actually enjoy the competitive aspect of the Cycle of Strife, this probably really impacts their enjoyment of the game. Personally, after two and a half years, I'm sort of over the shadow/immortal thing, but I can understand why those who still enjoy it are upset.
@ can you share transactions or something linking the accounts? I play on gidbinn and have been a part of fairly competitive clans. It would be awesome to know how to find this out
All these rule breakers think they make the rules. Acting like victims 😂
Go man your doing it right
Quite funny that he and his former clan Unforgiven talks as if they are the victim and pure on this matter. Unforgiven as a top10 whale clan has many bought accounts too and some raised reso via 3rd party like others. This is like which side brings more whales to win lmao. Can you really blame one side ?
fairly easy to toss accusations around - Unforgiven is hardly a top 10 whale clan - yes it has whales, yes it is a Top 10 Shadow clan (thanks to 100 members contributing shadow points and winning weekly shadow wars), but it cannot put 8 x 10k players in a ROE. You sound like one of the apologists we hear in WC. "kincaid who? what you talking about Bro"
@DI_experiences_observations let's be honest, Unforgiven has been top 3 for all vigil vob 3 matches, and even brought Insidiae and Vengeance clan whales ( I know because I was there) including bought accounts, pilot accounts, etc. Did this youtuber really stand up there saying we shouldn't do this? This guy cannot talk anything about it or you are just crying after losing and leaving the clan. But you and your group did the same way and not innocent from this issue lol. I agreed when Echogaming mentioning this. When this guy brings this matter, I'm like wtf.
@@YiPhi-l7v you are a straight up LIAR - Unforgiven Vengeance and Insidiae are in an Alliance - own towers together, fight to be Immortals / Serve as Immortrals as an alliance of 3. With a Year in Vengenance / Nova and year previous in Nova - there are NO drivers 'ETC' in Vengenance and Unforgiven. We are NOT bringing in bought accounts to the server. We are not running gems and plat bots. ONE time all our whales moved into Unforgiven to try and stop Immortals from going 3-0 in Blades and getting a huge bonus in ROE fights moving forward. That we had to bring whales from 3 clans to match up with Kincaids paid accounts speak VOLUMES and highlights the crap your are spouting.
Unfortunately BELLUM was throwing Blades fights (going 0-3 then Miracle! 4-0 during ROE) - Maybe you are in Bellum? Maybe you are 'buddies' with Kincaid? Fairly certain that none of this has to do with the Clans your running down. As a final point - Vengenace and Insidae are leaving this server - Kincaid was talking to our leadership just this week - 'all will be ok, will be moving on, no control over other clans, was just a continuing vendatta with Beanz - all crap, all misdirection we have heard before. Nova moved from Fallen just over a year ago to get away from bought whale accounts / imported drivers and Win tradiing. Vengeance will split and Nova will reconsitute on a competitive server.
Nobody listens to echo he's a dweeb
He's the Swifty of Diablo. And Swifty sux ass at pvp and his shockinglyy baaaad 10 man raids
Such a strange situation, you have all these low life pay to winners crying because someone paid harder to win? Us free to play players are still enjoying the game, we just ignore your immortal and pay 2 win drama! Honestly i think it’s hilarious, crying about a strategy you under utilized!?! You know the deal losers, bust out your credit cards and get back to winning!!! So we can continue to make fun of you! 😂❤😂❤
R u GZ
No they sound similar but really are different people lol
Win trading is for losers who don't really play the game and they just want to pose as the big dogs but they really aren't the big dogs because if it came down to it they couldn't last a second and Warcraft 3 starcraft or any of the other blizzard games so they get stuck in this crappy niche game
Don't blame the player, blame the game. Blessed reign is a terrible mechanic. People want big capes, and rotating 7-week reigns is the ONLY way to get it. That's all it is.
You blame the criminal first, before the law comes into play. But rest assured, its getting reported to. No one should feel comfortable anymore breaking TOS
@@ApollyonGaming Even if you get rid of all account buying, you'll still end up with servers controlled by six whale clans and allied Shadows throwing matches. That's just what the blessed reign system pushes players to do.
@@merdufer That may be, but people should not feel comfortable anymore breaking TOS that also affect other people gaming experience.
Bullshit. If Blizzard has any blame it is that they apparently DO NOT enforce their own fucking rules and ban account sellers/buyers and win trading.
@@ApollyonGaming I actually work for Blizzard R&D for Diablo Immortal, the topic of account sharing and win trading is something thats been spoken about at nausea for almost 2 years now. I can tell you for sure they aren't ever going to do anything about it. Most every game similar has ToS written the same way as the ToS for DI and noone from any company I've ever worked for enforces this.
Simple explanation, if you eliminated these accounts, no more money from those accounts flow in. These accounts typically have 75k to 175k USD put into them, they wont get rid of them because the rest of the population will spend towards competing with those accounts. They wouldnt leave the game to players with 5k and under investments because they have 2 years of data saying you wont spend on their product like those accounts have. Its the sad and true reality of the entire gaming industry.. its a business, its not about happy players.
i sell cheap
How much?
@@ApollyonGaming About three fiddy.
in mine opinion selling account is not against TOS, example i buy a lambo n drives it, next day i sell it n buys an Koenigsegg thats faster more powerful, is nothing wrong in, if you look at 9k+ resos they sell for 11 000 euro kind of 11k around 50k euro i could afford both in end of days this accounts spent way more than that. (will never do ain't worth it!) aah 8-9k reso for 10k euro is bargain bro, they probably spent 4times more, its like a car brand new al flashy today, tomorrow in end of day as soon u rolled it out of garage it lost 25% value, its the blizz netease plan to endless pit, i feel ya frustration, netease is a greedy company every tos have lopholes just like laws have
Blizzard TOS: Quote "Scamming, account sharing, and win-trading" This is a reminder and warning that if we find any account engaged in the following-or any other prohibited activity described in the Blizzard End User License Agreement-we will apply either a temporary suspension or a permanent ban." End Quote.
I don't need to say anything myself.
I also agree with Blizzard TOS but reality game is dying, people are quitting, maybe Netease/Blizz ignore TOS cause its still better for players buying accounts at least they might still spending.
The only way to stop this is to make easier,cheaper, faster for new players/existing players to do upgrade.
It doest make sense by spending USD200 you can get 3k reso account compared to upgrading the normal way you will not get 3k reso by spending USD 200.
answers like this are just stupid.
what better for bliz?
a player who begins and buying orbs?
or
a player who bought an account with maybe 10k reso and DONT buy orbs bcuz its enough inside ?
brains on pls
@@jonathancermak8551 if you have USD 10000, its still cheaper buying 10k reso and upgrade to 11k 12 k reso in the future than starting new trying to get to 10k reso with USD 10.000.
@@jonathancermak8551 of course it still benefit Blizz, if Im a new player with USD 500 budget, I can spend USD 200 to get 3k reso account and still has USD 300 to spend in game, thats the reality in this game now if we like it or not. If you start from 0, you wont be able to reack 3k reso with USD 500. Nothing new at all in this industry, it also happened with all online games.
Bro, stop crying
Bro, I hope you get the Cape.
This is alot of bullshit
He chased beanz around because of what they were doing on other servers. Beanz has disbanded so he will probably stop soon. This is something that happens in all p2w games, need to get used to it and just enjoy playing the game. If these people wanna pay ungodly amounts money to do this, let them
Don't ever give in to this guy.
Not gonna happen.