@@THU31 Any 64 bit OS can allocate more than 2/3 GB of ram without PAE, but even if you could use all the ram on a 32 bit OS, I would like to assume theoretically that it is significantly slower than 64 bits. There's this video that experiments the differences between these versions of Windows 7: th-cam.com/video/iH5D0e_L6a8/w-d-xo.html A lot of functions are the same as demonstrated throughout most of the video but the most damning difference is the single-threaded and multi-threaded performance highlighted at 7:50
@@velazquezylos90 But I specifically asked about XP. You mostly want to use that system for old games, which were all 32-bit. Only a few games got 64-bit updates, but it didn't really offer any benefits back then.
@@THU31 That has a subsystem called WoW64 which acted as a compatibility layer in order to run 32 bit applications on x64 edition, so you could still run almost the old games you could imagine, except DOS/16 bit legacy games.
I recommend using Easy2boot to boot XP installation media, fewer steps and no complaints about missing files during setup. For a hardware solution you can get an iodd ST400 and then just boot the ISO directly, no faffing about preparing USBs.
I'm not sure if the iodd ST400 can perform its job in CSM mode when using an unsupported USB controller by the OS-perhaps it might work in UEFI mode. In CSM mode, however, USB connections are reinitialized by Windows XP, which causes anything connected to stop working. It would be ideal to use a USB floppy drive to load drivers for XP, but the issue is that XP loses connection with USB floppy drives on newer motherboards. I don't see how the iodd ST400 would behave any differently in this scenario.
Yep, presence of PS/2 is actually the first thing that I look when picking a new motherboard. For Windows 2000 it helps also to have a PCI-E to USB 2.0 adapter as shown in the video.
Great video and you always use the dos method to make it easy to install earlier versions of Windows on modern hardware!!! I can also copy the patched the ACPI file into the 64 bit version of Windows XP!!!
I'm planning to install tonight Windows x64 on this Intel 14th Gen setup. I have a relatively up to date custom X64 ISO with SATA drivers slipstreamed. I don't know nothing about ACPI, if it is patched or something.... If ACPI will fail I can always use MPS, but it would be much better with ACPI.
I could unrealistically imagine a 144-qubit QPU that acts as a quantum CPU. This kind of CPU could be having an ABSOLUTELY INTERSTELLAR single-threaded performance of an absolutely colossal 10^56 points on CPU Benchmark! The 144-qubit QPU would be capable of emulating ANYTHING in both 86Box (32-bit machines) and 64Box (64-bit machines), even a 2038 overkill PC with Windows 12 Pro, RTX 9090 Ti, Ryzen Ultra 9 595X3D (19950X3D), 256GB 32,000MT/s DDR8 - all of that at 100% without any stutters.
Quantum CPUs excel at solving specific types of problems (like optimization and cryptography) rather than general-purpose tasks so I don't know... Imagine that in late 2006 the first quad core desktop CPU was released: Intel® Core™2 Extreme Processor QX6700 8M Cache, 2.66 GHz, 1066 MHz FSB. 18 years later with PCem or 86box we can barely emulate a Pentium II 400... :)
@O_mores Quantum computers can be also perfect for cracking any kinds of Abandonware that requires Serial key to activate the Full version, but the Serial key is lost. Remember: Piracy IS the key for game and software preservation, despite violating laws - just like viruses in nature ARE the key for evolution, despite causing viral infectious diseases.
@O_mores Quantum computers can be also perfect for cracking any kinds of Abandonware that requires Serial key to activate the Full version, but the Serial key is lost.
I installed Windows XP on my Intel DX79TO with an Intel Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition 6C12T with 4,3Ghz and 32GB DDR3 1600Mhz Quad Channel for the SSD I use a Samsung SSD 850 Pro 512GB in AHCI and as GPU I use a GeForce GTX 980 Ti. As a bonus this system can run a vanilla version of XP and you can also install official drivers for everything like chipset usb 3 etc.
Nice! I can do vanilla XP on this system too, but with some additions like a PCI-E to SATA adapter and MPS will be used for multicpu support. I'm curios how ACPI works on Windows 98/Millennium on your configuration. I recently tried a Z68 motherboard with an i7-3770 CPU and Windows 98 was fine that ACPI implementation.
I also preserve two X79 systems which also offer up to 2 PCI for scanner/printer SCSI interface cards. But still curious what the CSM on ASUS boards for a 12400F offer.
hey nice video! i am an early adopter of Arrow Lake (Core Ultra 200S), and i am sad to find out that the specific motherboard i chose for my build (ASUS PRIME Z890M-PLUS WIFI) doesn't appear to support CSM at all anymore, not even with a legacy graphics card... what's more, it doesn't even have certain legacy ISA devices working anymore, in particular the legacy PIT (programmable interval timer), which means no PC speaker either... (it does not have the header for that, so this is some intentional compatibility drop) i have seen motherboards from other manufacturers with the PC speaker header though (MSI), so here's hoping that this isn't some inherent thing to the Arrow Lake platform but it's just this specific series of higher end boards dropping compatibility... i am eagerly waiting for the lower end chipsets to release early next year to see if motherboards featuring all the legacy goodness come out of ASUS and friends. if it's an Arrow Lake thing though, that would mean that Raptor Lake is the final great x86 CPU generation (at least from Intel) to be a true IBM compatible PC as well!
Hey! Thanks! I really hope the Z790 isn’t the last high-end chipset with CSM support. Why? Well, about two weeks ago, I was planning to buy an MSI PRO Z890-P WIFI motherboard along with a 265K CPU. My first filter was the presence of a PS/2 port, and it has one. Next, I checked the BIOS setup manual and-copy & paste from the /Intel800BIOS_English.pdf: "BIOS CSM/UEFI Mode Select CSM (Compatibility Support Module) or UEFI mode to meet the system requirement. [CSM] For the non-UEFI driver add-on devices or non-UEFI mode OS. [UEFI] For the UEFI driver add-on devices and UEFI mode OS." It's equipped with PC Speaker header as well. My only complaint is that all Z890 motherboards have now only 4 PCI-E slots at best.
@@O_mores that's great to hear! it confirms exactly what i thought. It was a mistake to give my money to ASUS yet again, but you live and you learn, i guess
I would do it, but what is a 'period correct' machine for Windows XP? It was released in 2001 and stayed in active use well into 2014-2015. (around 20% market share in 2015) Early on, 'top of the line' meant CPUs like a Pentium 4 - then maybe we can think at some Q6600 setup from 2007 - but by the end of XP’s era - Ivy Bridge motherboards still had official support for Windows XP.
@@O_mores Good point. XP did span a long period. I was thinking a late native 32-bit CPU since regular XP isn't able to take advantage of the 64-bit instruction set.
@@BillyRazOr2011 It should run perfectly fine on that configuration. I already did a video about 13th Gen/H610 motherboard: th-cam.com/video/pE3CswJweqs/w-d-xo.html
I actually prefer to prepare the drive from Windows 10. I have an external SATA dock and I just insert the SSD there, then I make partitions, copy the installation files etc.
Hi, on Ryzen 3900x build, no PS/2 port on motherboard, how to solve the problem that when setup step of XP go in real mode after DOS mode (like as you explain in your videos), the USB keyboard (and USB mouse) came off then disabled? Do you know more motherboards actually don't longer offer PS/2 port.
The PS/2 port is no longer standard, but it's still present on many motherboards. If you are into retro installs like this it should be the first thing to look for when picking a new motherboard. For example there are PS/2 ports even on Z890 motherboards for the newer 1851 socket - or the 15th Gen CPUs now called "Ultra". On this motherboard booting the custom ISO with USB drivers included - and I was able to proceed with the installation without a PS/2 keyboard so it looks like the included USB drivers kicked in. I do have also a Ryzen 3900X + X470 mobo configuration and I remember that the keyboard lights went off during the installation but back then I used the original ISO for the installation, with no updated drivers. My X470 mobo has a single PS/2 port which was used with a mouse, so I had to use a keyboard to move on.
@O_mores My USB keyboard don't go back ON when setup has finished to copy files in real mode, go off first that come the screen where i can press Enter for continue or F3 for abort the setup where i suppose Is real mode for start to "Setup XP in your machine", cause i ask. An adapter USB to 2xPS/2 port can help? I am using Integral ISO created by Patcher, i detached all USB hardware except keyboard and mouse and i tried another combination of drivers with ISO created by Patcher but nothing changed. I have yet my original XP pre SP DVD. You are expert cause i ask may exist a solution for having USB keyboard working during XP setup. I know existing yet a recents motherboards whit PS/2 port, but i don't want buy one for this. You say in your Ryzen build USB keyboard go back ON, so only depends by driver present in an ISO? I read on article with Google search that in CSM mode the XP setup reinitialize all USB connection and all them go OFF. I have a build whit 2400G and B450M that has PS2 port, if i had success to install XP on this build and after i move the SSD to 3900x build after can working XP? Seeing you have a Ryzen 3900x build (AMD CPU's btw)why you don't focus the videos also to this build vs. Intel build buyed after? Thanks for now anyway!
I installed XP on my Ryzen configuration a while ago, but I remember for sure that USB to PS/2 emulation done at BIOS level which still worked in Windows 98/ME and NT 3.51 - was terminated by both Windows 2K and XP during the boot time. Keyboard lights went off - and that was the end of story. So I used a PCI-E to USB 2 adapter to have USB support on all these legacy OSes. Such an adapter should be detected during setup and you are good to go. There are even PCI-E to PS/2 adapters but these are also based on USB chips - so you better pick and USB 2 adapter in the first place. Try to make another ISO and fiddle around with USB drivers, you can pick different variants if you have time to test them. Do you have a serial port?
@@O_mores I have time in time, i was buy in summer a PCI2USB USB 2.0 card with NEC chip (i suppose is equivalent to similar type of PCI card you has mentioned for W98se with VIA 6212L chip for install It with 98SE. I do not have pci-e version of theses cards as USB 2.0 and USB 2.0+PS/2, they are actually hard to find and/or really expensive. I have serial port if you mean COM port RS232 with bracket to attach to COM connector still all motherboard have and i have PCI-E card 1x 4 serial ports RS232 that I can use. About W98SE installation that still are present i can't access to ms-dos in W98se, as another user was commenting W98SE come black screen and i have to force the shutdown also same problem when i try for eg to install Net Framework 2.0 backported for W98
Yeah, usually any USB 2.0 card will work in Windows 98 and even 95 (with USB supplement) because any card have both USB 1.1 controllers (UHCI) and USB 2.0 (ECHI). UHCI will get picked for sure. Not all MS-DOS programs work in Windows 98 even on time period correct hardware, and even less on modern hardware. Usually after you install video drivers you can't restart in MS-DOS or get back from it. I experimented this many times. Without video drivers usually you can play around with DOS, but of course you can press anytime F8 during the boot to go in pure MS-DOS mode. For gaming is better to start games from Windows because for many you will get sound support if you are using WDM drivers. I recently played NFS 1 from 1994 and it was such a nice experience.
Yes, I did it, but only after a few days of testing with the initial BIOS from July 2023. First, I installed Windows NT 4.0, 98 SE, Millennium, XP SP3, Vista 64, and 7-all worked flawlessly. Later, I updated to the latest BIOS released in November 2024, but nothing changed. This is likely because the AMI CSM module hasn’t been updated in the past few years.
I actually ran some Crysis benchmarks. :) But what I find even more interesting is that Windows 2000 can run Crysis. Check this out: th-cam.com/video/f2grGf2rTV8/w-d-xo.html
Absolutely...! 😄 The GTX 980, GTX 980 Ti, and Titan X all share the GM200 chip, which clearly ties them together as part of the same lineup. The architecture and performance similarities make it fair to group them as the 980 series...
I plan to create an x64 edition video, which is essentially Windows Server 2003 - and to ruin my fun... can’t be installed directly from DOS. I can do it anyway... Another thing I’ve noticed is that there doesn’t seem to be an updated x64 Integral Edition available. There are some that claim to be X64 while they are still X86. Still, I can install X64 using a vanilla SP2 disc, either with a PCI-E to SATA adapter or by slipstreaming the necessary drivers. I did this with XP X86 on one of my earlier videos using a PCI to SATA adapter.
First, for the fun of it... But there are practical reasons... Windows XP was supported in certain contexts well beyond its official extended support period, which ended in April 2014. For instance, critical patches were provided for some enterprise systems up to 2019. Many industrial or enterprise-grade applications were designed exclusively for XP and have no modern equivalent or are prohibitively expensive to replace. Running XP in these cases ensures access to essential tools that might still drive business operations.
Yes, indeed! I already install it. Windows 7 it's fast and very compatible: USB 3.x works, 2.5Gigabit LAN works, sound works... RTX 3000 series have official drivers for Windows 7. Btw, the updates are still working.
@@O_mores Which drivers are missing for Windows 7 on Intel 14th Gen Z790? I want to get a new PC for Christmas that is powerful and can run Windows 7.
Windows 7 is very compatible with this exact motherboard that I have - the onboard ALC897 codec works also the 2.5 NIC from Realtek (8125 chip), the SATA and NVME are working perfectly fine, and you get USB 3.x support as well... The RGB functionality might not work in Windows 7, I didn't try it.
This would run the 64 bit version of the same OS beautifully im sure, brilliant video as always!
Was there ever any reason to use 64-bit Windows XP?
@@THU31 Any 64 bit OS can allocate more than 2/3 GB of ram without PAE, but even if you could use all the ram on a 32 bit OS, I would like to assume theoretically that it is significantly slower than 64 bits. There's this video that experiments the differences between these versions of Windows 7:
th-cam.com/video/iH5D0e_L6a8/w-d-xo.html
A lot of functions are the same as demonstrated throughout most of the video but the most damning difference is the single-threaded and multi-threaded performance highlighted at 7:50
@@velazquezylos90 But I specifically asked about XP. You mostly want to use that system for old games, which were all 32-bit. Only a few games got 64-bit updates, but it didn't really offer any benefits back then.
@@THU31 That has a subsystem called WoW64 which acted as a compatibility layer in order to run 32 bit applications on x64 edition, so you could still run almost the old games you could imagine, except DOS/16 bit legacy games.
Would love to see win 64 !
I recommend using Easy2boot to boot XP installation media, fewer steps and no complaints about missing files during setup.
For a hardware solution you can get an iodd ST400 and then just boot the ISO directly, no faffing about preparing USBs.
I'm not sure if the iodd ST400 can perform its job in CSM mode when using an unsupported USB controller by the OS-perhaps it might work in UEFI mode. In CSM mode, however, USB connections are reinitialized by Windows XP, which causes anything connected to stop working. It would be ideal to use a USB floppy drive to load drivers for XP, but the issue is that XP loses connection with USB floppy drives on newer motherboards. I don't see how the iodd ST400 would behave any differently in this scenario.
An PS2 keyboard is the best friend to install older OS on modern hardware, was useful for me to install Windows 2000 on Ivy Bridge (3rd generation)
Yep, presence of PS/2 is actually the first thing that I look when picking a new motherboard. For Windows 2000 it helps also to have a PCI-E to USB 2.0 adapter as shown in the video.
Great video and you always use the dos method to make it easy to install earlier versions of Windows on modern hardware!!! I can also copy the patched the ACPI file into the 64 bit version of Windows XP!!!
I'm planning to install tonight Windows x64 on this Intel 14th Gen setup. I have a relatively up to date custom X64 ISO with SATA drivers slipstreamed. I don't know nothing about ACPI, if it is patched or something.... If ACPI will fail I can always use MPS, but it would be much better with ACPI.
@ That’s a great decision to make and we will look forward to see your next video!!!
I could unrealistically imagine a 144-qubit QPU that acts as a quantum CPU. This kind of CPU could be having an ABSOLUTELY INTERSTELLAR single-threaded performance of an absolutely colossal 10^56 points on CPU Benchmark!
The 144-qubit QPU would be capable of emulating ANYTHING in both 86Box (32-bit machines) and 64Box (64-bit machines), even a 2038 overkill PC with Windows 12 Pro, RTX 9090 Ti, Ryzen Ultra 9 595X3D (19950X3D), 256GB 32,000MT/s DDR8 - all of that at 100% without any stutters.
Quantum CPUs excel at solving specific types of problems (like optimization and cryptography) rather than general-purpose tasks so I don't know... Imagine that in late 2006 the first quad core desktop CPU was released: Intel® Core™2 Extreme Processor QX6700 8M Cache, 2.66 GHz, 1066 MHz FSB. 18 years later with PCem or 86box we can barely emulate a Pentium II 400... :)
@O_mores Quantum computers can be also perfect for cracking any kinds of Abandonware that requires Serial key to activate the Full version, but the Serial key is lost.
Remember: Piracy IS the key for game and software preservation, despite violating laws - just like viruses in nature ARE the key for evolution, despite causing viral infectious diseases.
@O_mores Quantum computers can be also perfect for cracking any kinds of Abandonware that requires Serial key to activate the Full version, but the Serial key is lost.
I installed Windows XP on my Intel DX79TO with an Intel Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition 6C12T with 4,3Ghz and 32GB DDR3 1600Mhz Quad Channel for the SSD I use a Samsung SSD 850 Pro 512GB in AHCI and as GPU I use a GeForce GTX 980 Ti. As a bonus this system can run a vanilla version of XP and you can also install official drivers for everything like chipset usb 3 etc.
Nice! I can do vanilla XP on this system too, but with some additions like a PCI-E to SATA adapter and MPS will be used for multicpu support. I'm curios how ACPI works on Windows 98/Millennium on your configuration. I recently tried a Z68 motherboard with an i7-3770 CPU and Windows 98 was fine that ACPI implementation.
@ my motherboard also has a PCI slot so I could put in my S3 Trio64 or NVIDIA Riva TNT2 M64 which has win 9X drivers
I also preserve two X79 systems which also offer up to 2 PCI for scanner/printer SCSI interface cards. But still curious what the CSM on ASUS boards for a 12400F offer.
hey nice video! i am an early adopter of Arrow Lake (Core Ultra 200S), and i am sad to find out that the specific motherboard i chose for my build (ASUS PRIME Z890M-PLUS WIFI) doesn't appear to support CSM at all anymore, not even with a legacy graphics card... what's more, it doesn't even have certain legacy ISA devices working anymore, in particular the legacy PIT (programmable interval timer), which means no PC speaker either... (it does not have the header for that, so this is some intentional compatibility drop)
i have seen motherboards from other manufacturers with the PC speaker header though (MSI), so here's hoping that this isn't some inherent thing to the Arrow Lake platform but it's just this specific series of higher end boards dropping compatibility... i am eagerly waiting for the lower end chipsets to release early next year to see if motherboards featuring all the legacy goodness come out of ASUS and friends.
if it's an Arrow Lake thing though, that would mean that Raptor Lake is the final great x86 CPU generation (at least from Intel) to be a true IBM compatible PC as well!
Hey! Thanks! I really hope the Z790 isn’t the last high-end chipset with CSM support. Why? Well, about two weeks ago, I was planning to buy an MSI PRO Z890-P WIFI motherboard along with a 265K CPU. My first filter was the presence of a PS/2 port, and it has one. Next, I checked the BIOS setup manual and-copy & paste from the /Intel800BIOS_English.pdf: "BIOS CSM/UEFI Mode
Select CSM (Compatibility Support Module) or UEFI mode to meet the system
requirement.
[CSM] For the non-UEFI driver add-on devices or non-UEFI mode OS.
[UEFI] For the UEFI driver add-on devices and UEFI mode OS."
It's equipped with PC Speaker header as well. My only complaint is that all Z890 motherboards have now only 4 PCI-E slots at best.
@@O_mores that's great to hear! it confirms exactly what i thought. It was a mistake to give my money to ASUS yet again, but you live and you learn, i guess
ASUS sucks. I got a $800 or so laptop from them in 2021 and it died earlier this year. What a piece of junk for $800. |=(
Would be interesting to drag race this against a period correct top of the line machine.
I would do it, but what is a 'period correct' machine for Windows XP? It was released in 2001 and stayed in active use well into 2014-2015. (around 20% market share in 2015) Early on, 'top of the line' meant CPUs like a Pentium 4 - then maybe we can think at some Q6600 setup from 2007 - but by the end of XP’s era - Ivy Bridge motherboards still had official support for Windows XP.
@@O_mores Good point. XP did span a long period. I was thinking a late native 32-bit CPU since regular XP isn't able to take advantage of the 64-bit instruction set.
This Integral Edition does support for Windows XP x64 SP2? I need this to test with my latest PC.
@@BillyRazOr2011 Hi, nope, it's just X86. There are some X64 ISOs out there but not as updated as this variant. I'm going to try one ASAP.
@O_mores Thanks! I hope x64 version would work flawlessly. 👍🏻
@@O_mores My current PC is Asus TUF Gaming B760M-Plus WiFi with Intel Core i5-13400. Isn't fully works with this Integral Edition?
@@BillyRazOr2011 It should run perfectly fine on that configuration. I already did a video about 13th Gen/H610 motherboard: th-cam.com/video/pE3CswJweqs/w-d-xo.html
@@O_mores I hope one day you could try Windows XP Pro/Home x64 SP2 with Integral Edition. 😁
Hm, I wonder if it's possible to boot XP from UEFI anyway in this configuration...
I wasn't curios so far, because I'm more into Windows 98 & co on these "retro-modern" builds so I have CSM enabled by default.
you should not let the winxp installer do the formatting/partitioning, because it always uses 512b alignment, but modern drives use 4kB.
I actually prefer to prepare the drive from Windows 10. I have an external SATA dock and I just insert the SSD there, then I make partitions, copy the installation files etc.
Hi, on Ryzen 3900x build, no PS/2 port on motherboard, how to solve the problem that when setup step of XP go in real mode after DOS mode (like as you explain in your videos), the USB keyboard (and USB mouse) came off then disabled? Do you know more motherboards actually don't longer offer PS/2 port.
The PS/2 port is no longer standard, but it's still present on many motherboards. If you are into retro installs like this it should be the first thing to look for when picking a new motherboard. For example there are PS/2 ports even on Z890 motherboards for the newer 1851 socket - or the 15th Gen CPUs now called "Ultra". On this motherboard booting the custom ISO with USB drivers included - and I was able to proceed with the installation without a PS/2 keyboard so it looks like the included USB drivers kicked in. I do have also a Ryzen 3900X + X470 mobo configuration and I remember that the keyboard lights went off during the installation but back then I used the original ISO for the installation, with no updated drivers. My X470 mobo has a single PS/2 port which was used with a mouse, so I had to use a keyboard to move on.
@O_mores My USB keyboard don't go back ON when setup has finished to copy files in real mode, go off first that come the screen where i can press Enter for continue or F3 for abort the setup where i suppose Is real mode for start to "Setup XP in your machine", cause i ask. An adapter USB to 2xPS/2 port can help? I am using Integral ISO created by Patcher, i detached all USB hardware except keyboard and mouse and i tried another combination of drivers with ISO created by Patcher but nothing changed. I have yet my original XP pre SP DVD. You are expert cause i ask may exist a solution for having USB keyboard working during XP setup. I know existing yet a recents motherboards whit PS/2 port, but i don't want buy one for this. You say in your Ryzen build USB keyboard go back ON, so only depends by driver present in an ISO? I read on article with Google search that in CSM mode the XP setup reinitialize all USB connection and all them go OFF. I have a build whit 2400G and B450M that has PS2 port, if i had success to install XP on this build and after i move the SSD to 3900x build after can working XP? Seeing you have a Ryzen 3900x build (AMD CPU's btw)why you don't focus the videos also to this build vs. Intel build buyed after? Thanks for now anyway!
I installed XP on my Ryzen configuration a while ago, but I remember for sure that USB to PS/2 emulation done at BIOS level which still worked in Windows 98/ME and NT 3.51 - was terminated by both Windows 2K and XP during the boot time. Keyboard lights went off - and that was the end of story. So I used a PCI-E to USB 2 adapter to have USB support on all these legacy OSes. Such an adapter should be detected during setup and you are good to go. There are even PCI-E to PS/2 adapters but these are also based on USB chips - so you better pick and USB 2 adapter in the first place. Try to make another ISO and fiddle around with USB drivers, you can pick different variants if you have time to test them. Do you have a serial port?
@@O_mores I have time in time, i was buy in summer a PCI2USB USB 2.0 card with NEC chip (i suppose is equivalent to similar type of PCI card you has mentioned for W98se with VIA 6212L chip for install It with 98SE. I do not have pci-e version of theses cards as USB 2.0 and USB 2.0+PS/2, they are actually hard to find and/or really expensive. I have serial port if you mean COM port RS232 with bracket to attach to COM connector still all motherboard have and i have PCI-E card 1x 4 serial ports RS232 that I can use. About W98SE installation that still are present i can't access to ms-dos in W98se, as another user was commenting W98SE come black screen and i have to force the shutdown also same problem when i try for eg to install Net Framework 2.0 backported for W98
Yeah, usually any USB 2.0 card will work in Windows 98 and even 95 (with USB supplement) because any card have both USB 1.1 controllers (UHCI) and USB 2.0 (ECHI). UHCI will get picked for sure. Not all MS-DOS programs work in Windows 98 even on time period correct hardware, and even less on modern hardware. Usually after you install video drivers you can't restart in MS-DOS or get back from it. I experimented this many times. Without video drivers usually you can play around with DOS, but of course you can press anytime F8 during the boot to go in pure MS-DOS mode. For gaming is better to start games from Windows because for many you will get sound support if you are using WDM drivers. I recently played NFS 1 from 1994 and it was such a nice experience.
Wonderful 😀👍👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Hi! Could you installed 9x on this motherboard without discrete PCI SATA controller?
Hi! Oh, yes! 👍 Everything works fine, including AHCI. Only Windows 98 and ME tested so far. NT4 works as well.
@@O_mores can you say how did you for 9x ? I still get protection error on AM5 motherboard.
Upgrade the BIOS to protect the cpu from degradation.
Yes, I did it, but only after a few days of testing with the initial BIOS from July 2023. First, I installed Windows NT 4.0, 98 SE, Millennium, XP SP3, Vista 64, and 7-all worked flawlessly. Later, I updated to the latest BIOS released in November 2024, but nothing changed. This is likely because the AMI CSM module hasn’t been updated in the past few years.
I think the 13-14th gen i5s are safe from this issue. It is an issue with the higher end i7 & i9 cpus.
Epic
Does it run Crysis? ;-)
I actually ran some Crysis benchmarks. :) But what I find even more interesting is that Windows 2000 can run Crysis. Check this out: th-cam.com/video/f2grGf2rTV8/w-d-xo.html
980 series? 😅 Really?
Absolutely...! 😄 The GTX 980, GTX 980 Ti, and Titan X all share the GM200 chip, which clearly ties them together as part of the same lineup. The architecture and performance similarities make it fair to group them as the 980 series...
@O_mores Ok i thought you were trying to say 900 series, thank you for the explanation
@@O_moressince when uses the GTX 980 the GM200 it uses the GM204 chip with 2048 shaders / the 980ti TITAN X and Quadro M6000 uses the GM200
Maybe next for Dual Boot Windows XP WMC ver and Windows XP x64 Professional 😂😂
I plan to create an x64 edition video, which is essentially Windows Server 2003 - and to ruin my fun... can’t be installed directly from DOS. I can do it anyway... Another thing I’ve noticed is that there doesn’t seem to be an updated x64 Integral Edition available. There are some that claim to be X64 while they are still X86. Still, I can install X64 using a vanilla SP2 disc, either with a PCI-E to SATA adapter or by slipstreaming the necessary drivers. I did this with XP X86 on one of my earlier videos using a PCI to SATA adapter.
WHY ?? Using a REAl unsafe OS ?
First, for the fun of it... But there are practical reasons... Windows XP was supported in certain contexts well beyond its official extended support period, which ended in April 2014. For instance, critical patches were provided for some enterprise systems up to 2019. Many industrial or enterprise-grade applications were designed exclusively for XP and have no modern equivalent or are prohibitively expensive to replace. Running XP in these cases ensures access to essential tools that might still drive business operations.
I think windows 7 ultimate would run like a dream on that build😊
Yes, indeed! I already install it. Windows 7 it's fast and very compatible: USB 3.x works, 2.5Gigabit LAN works, sound works... RTX 3000 series have official drivers for Windows 7. Btw, the updates are still working.
@@O_mores Which drivers are missing for Windows 7 on Intel 14th Gen Z790? I want to get a new PC for Christmas that is powerful and can run Windows 7.
Windows 7 is very compatible with this exact motherboard that I have - the onboard ALC897 codec works also the 2.5 NIC from Realtek (8125 chip), the SATA and NVME are working perfectly fine, and you get USB 3.x support as well... The RGB functionality might not work in Windows 7, I didn't try it.