"The reason for Cheparinov's refusal was, according to the appeal made by him and his manager Silvio Danailov, that "some time ago in one of his interviews Mr. Short insulted him and our team gravely". They also claimed the arbiter had not given Cheparinov another opportunity to shake hands, but had immediately declared the game a loss. After their protest, the Appeals Committee of the tournament-consisting of Vladimir Kramnik, Michał Krasenkow and Judit Polgár-overturned the decision to forfeit the game. The Committee also decided that Cheparinov should apologize to Short, that the game was to be replayed the next day and that it should start with a handshake. Short was initially livid, but was eventually persuaded by friends and family to play. Short won the replay in fine style. The handshake incident was recorded on video and posted by chess website Chessdom on TH-cam, where it was viewed over 300,000 times." - Source: Wikipedia
It's funny how Vladimir Kramnik was in the Appeals Committee when he himself was accused of cheating by Topalov when it comes to the Toiletgate scandal.
I heard that if you are in countries where handshakes are not the cultural thing you must respond accordingly. Like in Japan you have to bow and in France you have to concede to a deep tongue kiss.
Yes and on Mars you have to resign the game as quickly as possible to show some respect to your opponent. It's just a cultural thing. The games there are boring as hell and they don't have any structure in live :D
I think you misunderstood France It's often shaking hand or the most if you are near with these person is a kiss on the cheek(2 often and yes this is a rule lol). Tongue kiss is a common thing in Russia maybe not in France
To me it is a question of professional vs amateur: if it is an amateur event, and you have something against the opponent, then by all means throw your tantrem, but if you are a pro, competing in an event where pwople pay good money to see clean proper chess, then you must conduct yourself professionally regardless of your personal feelings. If you cannot handle the fact that someone you have a problem with, is competing, then you are not a pro, but an amateur.
Yeah he just asked the world champion at a conference if he wasn't sleeping well or was sick because he's not playing well. During a world championship match. Rude bastard.
I like how Nigel usually comes with his cup of tea XD. I would do the same thing to be honest, and yes, I am from England too. Also, I think Nigel Short used to go to my school, he once played in a simul in my school too in Bolton. Sir Ian McKellen, known for playing Gandalf and Magneto among other roles, also went to Bolton school 🙂.
The fact that it was NOT a rule and Short tried to insist it was and keeping in mind what Short has said about the Russian team puts Short as looking manipulative.
I mean it's part of insulting each other and to get psychological advantage on the chess board or in public opinion or in making or holding some friends. You can't just call this low EQ :D It's how humans make it all the time and there is some reason for it.
Ah I see, it makes sense now. I remember the Kramnik-Topalov incident back when they both were fighting to become World Champion and Kramnik won. There was the toiletgate scandal where Topalov accused Kramnik of cheating by going to the toilet many times just to get assistance from a secret chess computer. Apparently, Kramnik went to the bathroom around 30 to 50 times during that match, if I recall correctly. Also, they found a wire in the bathroom but no chess computer and no gadgets. An inquiry was done and Kramnik was found to be not guilty of cheating. This whole event soured relations between Kramnik and Topalov. Topalov is Bulgarian I think and so is Nigel Short's opponent in the video here. Maybe Nigel Short said something bad about the Bulgarian chess team and maybe that is why Nigel's opponent refused to shake his hand. Well, I don't see anything wrong with the Bulgarian player refusing to shake Nigel's hand, it's freedom of expression...especially if Nigel did say something that offended the Bulgarian opponent.
There is no freedom of expression within the rules of a game. Go run your "freedom of expression" mouth to a referee in football and see what happens. They are called rules for a reason. You have to abide by them, and if you don't, there are consequences, and one of the consequences is you don't get to play.
This is old news, I remember this from years ago. One of the grandmasters here is former World Championship finalist (and prodigy) from England named Nigel Short.
Good to know Eric Johnson, a lot of people have been asking if ‘Eric Johnson’ would have shaken Nigel Shorts hand if he was in the same tournament, thanks for clearly it up for us now we all know and can stop speculating.
If it was in the rules, this is a failure on the player's part and that is all there is to it. You need to know the rules and what is expected of you when you play in a competition. You don't want to shake hands that is totally fine, just don't play somewhere that requires it. If you choose to play, then deal with it.
Just very rude, petulant/poor sportsmanship. If he didn't want to shake hands for any reason other than those aforementioned things, he should have politely explained why he couldn't. All he achieved (on both occasions) is to make himself look like a right sour plum.
I mean, that's funny :D But still shaking hands is very common in culture of humanity and we have stick to common rules of behavior, right? Shaking hands is part of language and if somebody would yell all the time on a chess board you would also not accept this use of language. You don't have to say hello or thanks and you don't have to help somebody who's live is in danger, but if you behave in that manner you have to live with the social consequences as well with the judicial consequences in some cases.
@@leonh2548 Mr. Short should have not insulted the other player and his team and then expect the person he insulted to treat him with respect by shaking hands. What are Mr. Short’s consequences for his behavior?
@@obym2619 Yes, maybe I don't know everything what happend between both - same as you I guess ;) Shaking hands could be interpreted as many things. Respect for the rules and the game... also you don't have to respect your opponent to shake hands, you are allowed to dislike him anyway :D But it's a sign that on the board I'm a gentleman and act like a sportsman for myself regardless of the opponent, right? Because in the moment you sit down on the chess board it's about sports, not about hating each other and destroy somebody personaly, right?
@@leonh2548 The controversy is on Wikipedia. When your honor and the honor of your team is insulted without any further apology, don’t expect hand shake. Without honor, chess is meaningless.
@@obym2619 Wikipedia knows everything what happend in detail, right? ;) Yes, honor and respect is important in chess. We have some different opion in what we conclude out of that, but that's okay. As long as you are shaking my hand if we would play each other ;)
Luckily the cultural difference could be resolved on the board in the end. I think both did lack a little bit of focus on the sport and behaved somewhat childish a little less on the Short side.
I heard that once, when he was a child, he refused to allow his opponent to play Knight A1 to C3... what a horrible person. If your opponent was not following rules, i am sure you would just let it go.
@@jeffreyswartz9568 It was a proposed rule, that they have misinterpreted. The point is that now, it's a rule. I actually knew of this incident back when it happened. This video was an ok recap.
Always shake hands as a respect to the rules, not the opponent. Edit: To make it clear, even if you do not like your opponent, you should always be mature enough and respectful of the rules of the game and shake hands.
@@htwesports8804 You respect your opponent if he deserves it. That is when you should act like a well-mannered person. If the rules said "do not shake hands", would you shake hands because you are a grown man and not a child? I would assume not. Think basic. Do not make cases of exceptions. There are exceptions in anything in life, but this discussion is about the basic rules. So no... you do not always respect the man as you would with the rules.
ig guy was mad cause opponent started to play before he got there, and the gentleman thing to do is wait a few minutes. I might be wrong cause complete noob tho lol
I have no knowledge of how Mr. Short insulted Cheparinov, but considering how Short so easily insulted all the chess arbiters in his comments, I can surely believe that he did. Being forced to shake his hand must have been rough.
@@ArranVid physically disabled people do play chess. They have someone with them to help. Blind people, people without hands, etc. I suppose in this case, there would be an exemption from having to shake hands. (Or the helper does it)
@@andrejbogdanov2816 Yes I know that. I actually played against a blind chess player once, it was interesting. He had his own small chess board with him and I had to play the moves for him and he would call out his moves. It was a long time ago and it was a fun and interesting experience. I was around 13 years old at the time, 12 or 13 years old and he was a middle aged man. My dad helped him come for the tournament match, my dad drove and picked him up at his house. The game ended in a stalemate. He seemed like a nice person, he seemed chill :-)
Short was a great player, but convincing the arbiter to force a forfeit isn't a very good outlook. You have a disrespectful opinion, so you get disrespected in return.
I would make it the same way as Short. The arbiter has to decide not Short, he just told him and claimed the rules, because he didn't want to play against this person. There's nothing wrong with that.
If you don’t shake your opponent’s hand, then you’re showing a lack of sportsmanship. You’re showing that you’re prepared to win the game even off the board if you have to. 🤨
And these people call the new generations snowflakes. This is the stupidest rule. Why do I need to shake hands if I don't respect the opponent? You are essentially asking people to pretend like they respect each other.
I think the way you worded it was kind of harsh, qoweed. But I agree with the gist of your comment. I also think this rule is rather odd. And I agree with you that this rule is basically asking people to pretend like they respect each other...it's weird. Imagine a rule saying that both players must hug before a match otherwise the other player will be given a loss, or both players must do a bow otherwise one player would be given a loss, or both players must do a fistbump otherwise one person will be given a loss...they are all forced scenarios, just like the handshake one.
To make it fairer, they should make both players go home with a draw if one refuses to shake hands. But giving the Bulgarian player a loss just because he refused to shake hands is going too far in my opinion, that's way too harsh. The Bulgarian player may have had a good reason to not shake Nigel's hand in the first place.
@@ArranVid "To make it fairer, they should make both players go home with a draw if one refuses to shake hands." No. Then the weaker player can get a free draw by refusing to shake hands.
I did not know that refusing to shake a player's hand results in a forfeit win for the other player!!! Interesting. I am not sure I agree with that rule, it's basically forcing players to shake hands. What if they are germ avoidant or what if handshaking is not in their culture?? If you want to give better sportsmanship and courtesy in chess, you don't do it by forcing the rule. Imagine if the same thing happened in any sport...let's say that a tennis player has an automatic win if hands aren't shook...it's just ridiculous in my opinion. I know that the dude was rude for not shaking Nigel's hand, but I am not sure a win should have been given to Nigel for that...because obviously no chess match was played. I think it should be called as a draw if one player refuses to shake hands and the other player is not happy about it. Or maybe it would be fairer if both players got zero points because no chess match was played. I don't like the idea of having to be forced to shake hands. Let's say Adolf Hitler magically came back from the dead and became a grandmaster chess player...let's say that the FIDE rules were still there and that Adolf would win if I refused to shake his hand...it seems ridiculous right? I would not want to shake hands with people I dislike. Not shaking hands is like a form of freedom of expression.
@@gemmell761 True, but let's forget about the hypothetical Adolf Hitler scenario. Let's say that you are a top level chess player, and you are in a serious tournament, and then you realize that your opponent is someone who you really hate. Let's say the opponent is someone who badly insulted your mother or your opponent is someone who racially insulted you or who was a huge bully to you in the past or you think he is one of the most hated people in the world. Well, FIDE is saying that you have to shake his hand before the chess game, otherwise he will be given a win if you don't shake his hand. To me, that sounds forced. Personally, if I met such a person that I did not like, then no, I would not shake his hand, but I don't think FIDE should punish me by giving that guy a win just because I chose not to shake his hand. If I am a professional chess player, I am making a living out of playing chess, and getting money from chess tournaments means that every win, loss and draw is imperative. So FIDE giving a win to a hated player just because I refused to shake his hand sounds a bit bonkers to me. I am sure you would not shake a person's hand if that person was someone who deeply insulted you or offended you or was a horrible person, right? I actually like Nigel Short, I went to the same school as him (even though he is much older than me...Sir Ian McKellen actually went to the same school as Nigel and I too...Bolton School) and I have one of Nigel's books and I like him and his chess. Nigel also did a simul once at Bolton School. But let's just say that I didn't like Nigel. Then no, I wouldn't shake his hand...I only shake my hand to people who I respect or like, I don't think it's right that I am forced to shake the hands of people that I don't like or respect. That is probably what the Bulgarian grandmaster in the video was thinking too, and he has the right to feel that way. As long as he doesn't make any more trouble at the chess board (like kicking under the table, lol...my sister plays chess like me, and she said that one of her opponents kicked her under the table, my sister also went to Bolton School) and as long as he is quiet and as long as he behaves well while playing chess against Nigel then I don't see a problem. You can't force people to shake hands, sounds bonkers to me. You can recommend people to shake hands, but you can't force them. And like I said, in some cultures, shaking hands is thought of as weird anyway...so what about people in those cultures? That's why you have some grandmasters doing the limp handshake, because handshakes are unusual and weird for them and they are not used to giving handshakes and they do other forms of greeting.
Short purposefully chose the moment to extend his hand when the other guy (chirpanikov) was deeply focused in his thoughts. So he couldn't see the hand and had to lose the game. It's very deceitful of Short.
What a stupid rule. Will i be forefit the match if i don't make direct eye contact during the handshake? Do i have to ask them how their family is doing? Chess needs the ability for emotional expression, and thus the lack there of as well, because we are not robots. We are people. interractions such as these are human, and provide a human element to the Game.
If you say hello to me and I don't answere is this disrespectful for you? Maybe I will stand there for a bid to signal you I heard you trying to communicate with me and then I would walk away :D I mean if you don't have social understanding and no social skills it wouldn't insult you for sure, but I doubt that :D
@@synchronium24 Disrespect is part of competitive chess for centuries. This enigma that its a gentleman's game where you shake hands all the time and smile while doing it is just that. Its absolute normality to do disrespectful things in the middle of the game to distract your opponent, kicking legs under table and apologizing very loudly, coughing and apologizing very loudly, eating chips, drinking and swallowing loudly. I know a chess club where people play so long with each other that they fart and burp. I refuse to play with such people (my big fat friend eats non-stop as loud as a hippo, shakes his leg which in his case shakes the whole room, knocks pieces with his big fat fingers and apologizes while spitting around uncontrolably) and is an annoying piece of work and yes, it shouldn't be allowed in championships. But to think for a second that chess is some noble game is naive.
"The reason for Cheparinov's refusal was, according to the appeal made by him and his manager Silvio Danailov, that "some time ago in one of his interviews Mr. Short insulted him and our team gravely". They also claimed the arbiter had not given Cheparinov another opportunity to shake hands, but had immediately declared the game a loss. After their protest, the Appeals Committee of the tournament-consisting of Vladimir Kramnik, Michał Krasenkow and Judit Polgár-overturned the decision to forfeit the game. The Committee also decided that Cheparinov should apologize to Short, that the game was to be replayed the next day and that it should start with a handshake. Short was initially livid, but was eventually persuaded by friends and family to play. Short won the replay in fine style. The handshake incident was recorded on video and posted by chess website Chessdom on TH-cam, where it was viewed over 300,000 times." - Source: Wikipedia
It's funny how Vladimir Kramnik was in the Appeals Committee when he himself was accused of cheating by Topalov when it comes to the Toiletgate scandal.
Mr. Short winning the rematch is such a boss move
Nice info.
However, Wikipedia is never THE source. It is a place where you can sum up info from other sources.
@@JimmyCarlsenF1I wouldn't call it a rematch
@@ArranVid It's funny how Naroditsky and Nakamura were caught cheating years later.
Handshake declined gambit is craaaazy
I heard that if you are in countries where handshakes are not the cultural thing you must respond accordingly. Like in Japan you have to bow and in France you have to concede to a deep tongue kiss.
Yes and on Mars you have to resign the game as quickly as possible to show some respect to your opponent. It's just a cultural thing. The games there are boring as hell and they don't have any structure in live :D
I think you misunderstood France It's often shaking hand or the most if you are near with these person is a kiss on the cheek(2 often and yes this is a rule lol). Tongue kiss is a common thing in Russia maybe not in France
Didn't see that last part coming. ☠☠
@@leonh2548whoomp whoomp
thank you for the clarification, some people are just ignorant and not aware of different country cultures
- Are you really want me to shake your hand?
- I insist.
- If you insist…
To me it is a question of professional vs amateur: if it is an amateur event, and you have something against the opponent, then by all means throw your tantrem, but if you are a pro, competing in an event where pwople pay good money to see clean proper chess, then you must conduct yourself professionally regardless of your personal feelings. If you cannot handle the fact that someone you have a problem with, is competing, then you are not a pro, but an amateur.
The journalist looks exactly the same 16 years later
Leontxo Garcia is the goat!
Yes, I watched a video from him last month and looked the same. And when he commented Linares in the 90s, he also looked the same as now!
Yeah he just asked the world champion at a conference if he wasn't sleeping well or was sick because he's not playing well. During a world championship match. Rude bastard.
3:21 fabiano might slightly disagree on the exact percentage
Short sounds a bit like Brian Cox
Haha, first thing I thought of.
Did Ivan offer his hand when resigning the next day?
😂
A girl did this once in a tournament game and I beat her. Instant karma.
Those who would not shake hands should not play tournaments. They should play chess on the streets.
Cheparinov should have extended the handshake as soon as the game was forfeit as a goodwill gesture.
I like how Nigel usually comes with his cup of tea XD. I would do the same thing to be honest, and yes, I am from England too. Also, I think Nigel Short used to go to my school, he once played in a simul in my school too in Bolton. Sir Ian McKellen, known for playing Gandalf and Magneto among other roles, also went to Bolton school 🙂.
The fact that it was NOT a rule and Short tried to insist it was and keeping in mind what Short has said about the Russian team puts Short as looking manipulative.
Chess Grandmaster with low EQ! 😅😅😅
I mean it's part of insulting each other and to get psychological advantage on the chess board or in public opinion or in making or holding some friends. You can't just call this low EQ :D It's how humans make it all the time and there is some reason for it.
But man do I hate everything about the guy who won
Now I know why.... he saw Short coming out from the washroom without sanitizing his hands.... who wouldn't eh! 😢
This right. Rule because opponent can't focus on because of this incidents and they do blunder
Ah I see, it makes sense now. I remember the Kramnik-Topalov incident back when they both were fighting to become World Champion and Kramnik won. There was the toiletgate scandal where Topalov accused Kramnik of cheating by going to the toilet many times just to get assistance from a secret chess computer. Apparently, Kramnik went to the bathroom around 30 to 50 times during that match, if I recall correctly. Also, they found a wire in the bathroom but no chess computer and no gadgets. An inquiry was done and Kramnik was found to be not guilty of cheating. This whole event soured relations between Kramnik and Topalov. Topalov is Bulgarian I think and so is Nigel Short's opponent in the video here. Maybe Nigel Short said something bad about the Bulgarian chess team and maybe that is why Nigel's opponent refused to shake his hand. Well, I don't see anything wrong with the Bulgarian player refusing to shake Nigel's hand, it's freedom of expression...especially if Nigel did say something that offended the Bulgarian opponent.
There is no freedom of expression within the rules of a game. Go run your "freedom of expression" mouth to a referee in football and see what happens. They are called rules for a reason. You have to abide by them, and if you don't, there are consequences, and one of the consequences is you don't get to play.
@@TheRealPureBloodyou didn't watch the video did you?
@@TheRealPureBloodok then we riot.
Majority rules.
This is old news, I remember this from years ago. One of the grandmasters here is former World Championship finalist (and prodigy) from England named Nigel Short.
Yes, there are many people out there, who know this :D
2008 is old news? Thanks for the clarification.
God do I hate Short
The game actually has not even officially started. Why would he even be disqualified?
I dont think we are getting short of puns that can be made here anytime soon, not without a short notice at least. Nothing s(h)ort of a handshake
Karpov refused to shake Kortschnoi's hand in the 1978 WCC.
I would not shake Short's hand either.
Why not.
Is it because he doesn't wash his hands about finishing his business in the toilet or digs his nose?
@@bigjob7551because he isn’t likely to play him. 😂
Good to know Eric Johnson, a lot of people have been asking if ‘Eric Johnson’ would have shaken Nigel Shorts hand if he was in the same tournament, thanks for clearly it up for us now we all know and can stop speculating.
@@stephenmorris3696 LOL!
The best way to solve a clash between 2 chess players is on the board !
When did this happen?
2008 at the Corus chess tournament
Ok
@@mooserrchess A.k.a. Wijk aan Zee Tournament, currently known as the Tata Steel Chess Tournament.
he wanted a short game he got shorted out
If it was in the rules, this is a failure on the player's part and that is all there is to it. You need to know the rules and what is expected of you when you play in a competition. You don't want to shake hands that is totally fine, just don't play somewhere that requires it. If you choose to play, then deal with it.
The one who should have been collared is the photographer who pushed his way past Short like he owned the room. 0:45
Checkmate.
What a brutal game chess can be😮
Just very rude, petulant/poor sportsmanship. If he didn't want to shake hands for any reason other than those aforementioned things, he should have politely explained why he couldn't. All he achieved (on both occasions) is to make himself look like a right sour plum.
how is this an official rule?
I can see why he didn’t want to shake this obnoxious man’s hand. He’s a dork
Well said my friend, he doesn't deserves that hand check after all
Short’s no angel.
If you don't offer your opponent a kiss before the match its a forfeit
The game had already started. Pre game handshake is null at this point.
I do not shake hands in real life. But in chess it is part of the rules, so i do.
New rule, if you don’t hug your opponent before the game you are forfeit.
I mean, that's funny :D But still shaking hands is very common in culture of humanity and we have stick to common rules of behavior, right? Shaking hands is part of language and if somebody would yell all the time on a chess board you would also not accept this use of language. You don't have to say hello or thanks and you don't have to help somebody who's live is in danger, but if you behave in that manner you have to live with the social consequences as well with the judicial consequences in some cases.
@@leonh2548 Mr. Short should have not insulted the other player and his team and then expect the person he insulted to treat him with respect by shaking hands. What are Mr. Short’s consequences for his behavior?
@@obym2619 Yes, maybe I don't know everything what happend between both - same as you I guess ;)
Shaking hands could be interpreted as many things. Respect for the rules and the game... also you don't have to respect your opponent to shake hands, you are allowed to dislike him anyway :D But it's a sign that on the board I'm a gentleman and act like a sportsman for myself regardless of the opponent, right? Because in the moment you sit down on the chess board it's about sports, not about hating each other and destroy somebody personaly, right?
@@leonh2548 The controversy is on Wikipedia. When your honor and the honor of your team is insulted without any further apology, don’t expect hand shake. Without honor, chess is meaningless.
@@obym2619 Wikipedia knows everything what happend in detail, right? ;)
Yes, honor and respect is important in chess. We have some different opion in what we conclude out of that, but that's okay. As long as you are shaking my hand if we would play each other ;)
it was a fairly "short" game
Lol nice one 😊
Luckily the cultural difference could be resolved on the board in the end. I think both did lack a little bit of focus on the sport and behaved somewhat childish a little less on the Short side.
Trust a British GM to be a master of hypocrisy. Not to mention whining and gamesmanship.
I heard that once, when he was a child, he refused to allow his opponent to play Knight A1 to C3... what a horrible person. If your opponent was not following rules, i am sure you would just let it go.
@volodyanarchist it wasn't a rule . You didn't watch the video.
@@jeffreyswartz9568 It was a proposed rule, that they have misinterpreted. The point is that now, it's a rule. I actually knew of this incident back when it happened. This video was an ok recap.
Always shake hands as a respect to the rules, not the opponent.
Edit: To make it clear, even if you do not like your opponent, you should always be mature enough and respectful of the rules of the game and shake hands.
You act like a child😂😂😂😂
@@worldspeed-t Ok, sure. Now a real answer, sir?
@@htwesports8804 You respect your opponent if he deserves it. That is when you should act like a well-mannered person.
If the rules said "do not shake hands", would you shake hands because you are a grown man and not a child? I would assume not.
Think basic. Do not make cases of exceptions. There are exceptions in anything in life, but this discussion is about the basic rules.
So no... you do not always respect the man as you would with the rules.
@@htwesports8804 I understand now. I agree. It could come off wrong. I will edit it to make it more clear.
@@axel_r_ Alright I deleted my comment. Have a great day sir 🙂
The sad side of chess , when you win à game because you are a crying baby
ig guy was mad cause opponent started to play before he got there, and the gentleman thing to do is wait a few minutes.
I might be wrong cause complete noob tho lol
Met Cheparinov himself earlier this year.
Nice, where did you meet him?
@DribbleDriveDaily Candidates.
...and did he accept to shake your hands? 😂
@@striker44 Even signed a chess pamphlet
nice haircuts tho !
It's just a game folks😂
And games have rules.
I have no knowledge of how Mr. Short insulted Cheparinov, but considering how Short so easily insulted all the chess arbiters in his comments, I can surely believe that he did. Being forced to shake his hand must have been rough.
what if the opponent has no hands and is disabled
😂
skill issue
How are they going to move pieces with no hands? Lol.
@@ArranVid physically disabled people do play chess. They have someone with them to help. Blind people, people without hands, etc. I suppose in this case, there would be an exemption from having to shake hands. (Or the helper does it)
@@andrejbogdanov2816 Yes I know that. I actually played against a blind chess player once, it was interesting. He had his own small chess board with him and I had to play the moves for him and he would call out his moves. It was a long time ago and it was a fun and interesting experience. I was around 13 years old at the time, 12 or 13 years old and he was a middle aged man. My dad helped him come for the tournament match, my dad drove and picked him up at his house. The game ended in a stalemate. He seemed like a nice person, he seemed chill :-)
Mr Short you have insulted your opponent as well .. move on !!
??? insane requirement, this should be 100% optional
Short is a legend. He has no respect for him.
When Duda did this last year, nothing happend...
Interesting!!!
Because duda opponent is not a cry baby
It's a lot harder to get away with forcing people to shake hands since covid
Yeah because Khismatullin didn’t complain to the arbiter
What's the background to Dudas not shaking hands
6 month ban needed.
Short was a great player, but convincing the arbiter to force a forfeit isn't a very good outlook. You have a disrespectful opinion, so you get disrespected in return.
I would make it the same way as Short. The arbiter has to decide not Short, he just told him and claimed the rules, because he didn't want to play against this person. There's nothing wrong with that.
Disrespect him all you want, but during the game show respect don't be an asshat.
Grow up and curb your toxic masculinity.
Short was being despicable frankly
If you don’t shake your opponent’s hand, then you’re showing a lack of sportsmanship. You’re showing that you’re prepared to win the game even off the board if you have to. 🤨
Hand shake should not be mandatory.
Rules are there to be followed. Cherparinov found that out the hard way!
Well done Nigel.👏🏼
This guy is impolite
Which guy?
if you dont like your opponent doesnt shake your hand, then make no remarks on your opponent that he doesnt like.
There's no like, it's the rule and a sport not some high school drama, get over it at least during the game itself.
And these people call the new generations snowflakes. This is the stupidest rule. Why do I need to shake hands if I don't respect the opponent? You are essentially asking people to pretend like they respect each other.
Keep your differences away from the board
It's respect for the game. If you don't have that, gtfo basically.
I think the way you worded it was kind of harsh, qoweed. But I agree with the gist of your comment. I also think this rule is rather odd. And I agree with you that this rule is basically asking people to pretend like they respect each other...it's weird. Imagine a rule saying that both players must hug before a match otherwise the other player will be given a loss, or both players must do a bow otherwise one player would be given a loss, or both players must do a fistbump otherwise one person will be given a loss...they are all forced scenarios, just like the handshake one.
To make it fairer, they should make both players go home with a draw if one refuses to shake hands. But giving the Bulgarian player a loss just because he refused to shake hands is going too far in my opinion, that's way too harsh. The Bulgarian player may have had a good reason to not shake Nigel's hand in the first place.
@@ArranVid "To make it fairer, they should make both players go home with a draw if one refuses to shake hands."
No. Then the weaker player can get a free draw by refusing to shake hands.
I did not know that refusing to shake a player's hand results in a forfeit win for the other player!!! Interesting. I am not sure I agree with that rule, it's basically forcing players to shake hands. What if they are germ avoidant or what if handshaking is not in their culture?? If you want to give better sportsmanship and courtesy in chess, you don't do it by forcing the rule. Imagine if the same thing happened in any sport...let's say that a tennis player has an automatic win if hands aren't shook...it's just ridiculous in my opinion. I know that the dude was rude for not shaking Nigel's hand, but I am not sure a win should have been given to Nigel for that...because obviously no chess match was played. I think it should be called as a draw if one player refuses to shake hands and the other player is not happy about it. Or maybe it would be fairer if both players got zero points because no chess match was played. I don't like the idea of having to be forced to shake hands. Let's say Adolf Hitler magically came back from the dead and became a grandmaster chess player...let's say that the FIDE rules were still there and that Adolf would win if I refused to shake his hand...it seems ridiculous right? I would not want to shake hands with people I dislike. Not shaking hands is like a form of freedom of expression.
The FIDE ethics comission would prohibit Hitler from participating in chess tournaments. (I hope)
Yes, Hitler magically coming back from the dead and becoming a grandmaster DOES seem ridiculous...
I disagree - you shouldnt insult a player before a match - its gamesmanship
@@gemmell761 True, but let's forget about the hypothetical Adolf Hitler scenario. Let's say that you are a top level chess player, and you are in a serious tournament, and then you realize that your opponent is someone who you really hate. Let's say the opponent is someone who badly insulted your mother or your opponent is someone who racially insulted you or who was a huge bully to you in the past or you think he is one of the most hated people in the world. Well, FIDE is saying that you have to shake his hand before the chess game, otherwise he will be given a win if you don't shake his hand.
To me, that sounds forced. Personally, if I met such a person that I did not like, then no, I would not shake his hand, but I don't think FIDE should punish me by giving that guy a win just because I chose not to shake his hand. If I am a professional chess player, I am making a living out of playing chess, and getting money from chess tournaments means that every win, loss and draw is imperative. So FIDE giving a win to a hated player just because I refused to shake his hand sounds a bit bonkers to me. I am sure you would not shake a person's hand if that person was someone who deeply insulted you or offended you or was a horrible person, right?
I actually like Nigel Short, I went to the same school as him (even though he is much older than me...Sir Ian McKellen actually went to the same school as Nigel and I too...Bolton School) and I have one of Nigel's books and I like him and his chess. Nigel also did a simul once at Bolton School. But let's just say that I didn't like Nigel. Then no, I wouldn't shake his hand...I only shake my hand to people who I respect or like, I don't think it's right that I am forced to shake the hands of people that I don't like or respect. That is probably what the Bulgarian grandmaster in the video was thinking too, and he has the right to feel that way. As long as he doesn't make any more trouble at the chess board (like kicking under the table, lol...my sister plays chess like me, and she said that one of her opponents kicked her under the table, my sister also went to Bolton School) and as long as he is quiet and as long as he behaves well while playing chess against Nigel then I don't see a problem. You can't force people to shake hands, sounds bonkers to me. You can recommend people to shake hands, but you can't force them.
And like I said, in some cultures, shaking hands is thought of as weird anyway...so what about people in those cultures? That's why you have some grandmasters doing the limp handshake, because handshakes are unusual and weird for them and they are not used to giving handshakes and they do other forms of greeting.
@@ArranVid I didn't read any of that
Short purposefully chose the moment to extend his hand when the other guy (chirpanikov) was deeply focused in his thoughts. So he couldn't see the hand and had to lose the game. It's very deceitful of Short.
What a stupid rule. Will i be forefit the match if i don't make direct eye contact during the handshake? Do i have to ask them how their family is doing? Chess needs the ability for emotional expression, and thus the lack there of as well, because we are not robots. We are people. interractions such as these are human, and provide a human element to the Game.
It's called Chess, not hand shake. Stupid rule. Not shaking hands is not a form of disrespect.
If it wasn't a sign of disrespect, Cheparinov wouldn't shake hands with anyone. But he specifically targeted Nigel Short to be disrespectful.
If you say hello to me and I don't answere is this disrespectful for you? Maybe I will stand there for a bid to signal you I heard you trying to communicate with me and then I would walk away :D
I mean if you don't have social understanding and no social skills it wouldn't insult you for sure, but I doubt that :D
@@synchronium24 Disrespect is part of competitive chess for centuries. This enigma that its a gentleman's game where you shake hands all the time and smile while doing it is just that. Its absolute normality to do disrespectful things in the middle of the game to distract your opponent, kicking legs under table and apologizing very loudly, coughing and apologizing very loudly, eating chips, drinking and swallowing loudly. I know a chess club where people play so long with each other that they fart and burp. I refuse to play with such people (my big fat friend eats non-stop as loud as a hippo, shakes his leg which in his case shakes the whole room, knocks pieces with his big fat fingers and apologizes while spitting around uncontrolably) and is an annoying piece of work and yes, it shouldn't be allowed in championships. But to think for a second that chess is some noble game is naive.