Debunking the Difficulty - Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (NES)
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Anyone that wants to get far in this game, Ryu's rules are:
1. Get the scrolls
2. Get the scrolls
3. Get the scrolls
You forgot: Taking your time & Resetting the pizzas
@@kitsunami7251 It's just a reference to an old Angry Video Game Nerd quote.
0.5 - Reset the Pizza
I've been trying to get a fully functional rom for this game but i'm sadly out of luck, everytime i get to the technodrome it just blacks out and never returns, does any of you know of a good copy?
1. Get the knife
2. Get the knife
3. GET THE KNIFE
Finally beat this a few years back. Felt like I redeemed my entire childhood!! Great Video.
that level 2 dam level was the rosebud of unpassable levels for me
It has also haunted me for nearly 30 years
Man! I was so frustrated as a kid playing this. Defintely want to give it another shot.
Ryu at beginning: "This isn't very hard, we're gonna debunk the difficulty."
Ryu half a dozen times: "Now this stage/part/boss is hard as hell, you've gotta be super careful."
Ya but this is an easier classic game compared to the others is what I think he was meaning
Yeah, maybe "Demystifying the Difficulty" is a better, still alliterative, name.
Even at the end, Ryu's like: this game is still f'n hard.
@@boydstephensmithjr well actually he showed how you can just spam win the game so I wouldn't really call that hard not to mention almost every boss has an exploit so unless you are just so bad at games you can't get to the 3rd part which I did that even as a ~8yo and I'm not that great at games I would argue that the hardest part is the janky jumps
I think he just wants to show that anyone can beat these games. They're not all omg impossible.
There is a difference between hard, but beatable versus hard and impossible. Which is the distinction he is trying to make with this series I think.
29:20 - to be such a pro that with half a square health you confidently know where to align your turtle within a pixel's reach of the hardest boss of the game. I only wonder how many millions of times this man beat this game to improve so much. pure dedication.
hardest boss in the game? lol you can literally stand on the ledge above and attack straight every time he jumps up to you. he's the easiest boss in the game for me.
@@hypnos9336 yeah if you don't miss. kind of like how you can win the lottery just by filling in the numbers. they just have to be the right ones
Shredder is not a tough boss. He can be easily beaten with any turtle as he's one enemy in the game that suffers from knockback damage when he's hit. He's quite anti climatic infact. If you don't have any throwing weapons to spam, just wait for him to drop down, and hop back up once he comes down, and just keep hitting him as he leaps back up. He will get knocked down and keep running into your attacks.
@@hypnos9336 Exactly, Shredder is a scrub in this game. The fact he suffers from knockback, unlike the rest of the bosses makes him a joke.
@@jacobpeters5458 No, Leo swings quickly and has a large area of coverage you can easily swing rapidly and not miss Shredder. It doesn't matter what hits him, he always staggers from the hits. It just takes longer than using Donnie who you could potentially miss time since he has a slower swing. Shredder isn't that fast of a boss, so you shouldn't have that much trouble landing your swings on him. It's not like he's a floating skull in Castlevania 3 or something that has a hard pattern to guess.
I just understood the dad from "The Wizard" saying he got the scroll weapon and beat the mega turtle. I thought he was always talking nonsense. Turns out he got further than I ever did and knew what he was doing. Now I know which parent Jimmy got his talent from.
I was thinking of that scene too lol.
Mecha-turtle?
That movie was so ahead of us that we didn't even know Tobey Maguire was in Lucas Barton's gang of friends at Universal Studios until you read this comment.
That dad had the power--Nintendo Power!
It’s nice to see some actual consistency in the writing, but such moments still fly under the radar when you have stuff like “he hasn’t even been hit!” (when the Ninja Gaiden lifebar clearly shows damage taken) or “50,000 in Double Dragon!”
Never seen your work before. This grabbed me pretty much immediately.
Chill, detailed, interesting topic with a touch of nostalgia...
I shall follow your career with great interest.
You should check out his main channel, he's a super mario pro. th-cam.com/users/ryukahr
Cheese is a huge part of Ryu's whole presentation, so I hope you aren't lactose intolerant.
Enjoy his back catalog my friend, hundreds of great videos.
welcome to the channel 😄
Welcome.. i recommend subscribing to his first channel and checking out the “extraordinarily hard games” series. Enjoy
The other Ninja Turtles besides Donatello are not completely useless at all (especially my favorite hero, Michelangelo), since certain enemies can actually be defeated by certain Ninja Turtles easily, which many players always tend to forget.
there is some hidden stats for each turtle, some turtles will deal more dmg the lower their health goes or something I don't really remember, I once saw an in-depth video about it.
When I was a kid, I always got stuck on stage 3. The underwater bomb diffuse part was always pretty easy. I just never got past stage 3. I haven't played this game since I got the SNES in the very early 90s.
Most people will never cook this game it is very very hard to beat.
Aww I'm sorry you gave up so easily
You got a new sub for the very simple reason of making a playlist, and putting it in the watch order, not reverse order of newest first. IT makes it so much easier to new viewers to consume content, and its so hard to find on youtube nowadays. thanks for the consideration!
Haven't played this game in probably 25 years but I still sat through the whole video; it was very interesting. I was too young to really get anywhere in the game. Lots of nostalgia.
Good tips in this video… like a most videos I’ve seen they don’t give the full break down of each turtles advantage and disadvantage in their attacks. But, still something that could probably help anyone who hasn’t beaten it yet.
I like how your video is honest. You show mistakes instead of "Just speed run this without any issues, you should be able to beat the game in 1-sec and never take damage or die". Right now, I'm trying to show my son the difference between games with a timer and games without.
The scroll tip is really good. I'm one of those weirdos who beats games without using limited items, which is never a great strategy.
He's still an arrogant prick with this game though
If you're trying show people how really play a game, showing a speed run isn't a great learning tool. Speed runs do alot of fragile strategies that new players shouldn't be pushing. They lack the knowledge pool of how bounce back if the speed run path goes south. Most players are better off being on more conservative paths which you can outlast the onslaught if you know where and what to farm. I am not as good at this game as when I was 12, and could swim thru the dam barely getting hit at all, but I farm my way thru this game in my rustiness. Knowing really is half the battle for this game.
No one seems to realize that different turtles are strong against specific enemies
2:03 it's because back in the day, game devs didn't know crap about making characters balanced.
Some of the reason we thought these games were so hard was the fact we tried rushing thru them with no patience lol.
In 7:25 its easy to get the top edge without any trouble, just jump in te middle in straight line and on the top push left (or right) and stop pushing before the edge stop you movement, then fall in straight line and jump straigh again and push the same side, repeat until you climb the top edge. Nice vid, good memories :)
34 years of hindsight later, and abusing cheese strts, "DeBuNkInG tHe DiFiCulTy - TeEnAGe MuTaNT NInJA TuRTleS (NeS)"
This game is a classic NES platform hybrid game, if you think about it as far design this game is criminally underrated. I love Arcade beat em ups and the level of detail and fan service but watching this video reminds me that at one point this game and Mega Man 2 were my daily driver games for like a year and a half
Love this series idea.
Where did you get those moving frames with FF1 and Megaman?
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Awesome video Mr Ryu. My Uncle bought this game for me when I was about 7 years old. I played for years and often couldn't get past the dam stage. On one occasion I had an amazing run and actually reached Shredder... and got destroyed. I've never gotten that far since and I'm 38 now. xD
Cool idea and great walkthrough- very to the point. Would love to see you do one for Zelda 2.
I literally just left this exact comment. I love Zelda ll. And have never found it difficult!
@@pointedspider I dunno how. Every time I try to get through I have to resort to save states once I start approaching the late game. You literally need pixel perfect precision and timing for many enemies/rooms.
@@pointedspider nah, too easy
I played Zelda 2 for a podcast episode I did. I actually ended up enjoying the game
@@thenonexistinghero it's entirely too easy. I guess I just know where everything is. I've never beaten it less than 100%. And can do it in 2 hrs!
1) Complete the water level using the exact same pattern EVERY time...if you do this then the water level becomes easier but you still have to watch out for those pesky sea-weeds!
2) WALK across single gaps (level 3 in front of the missiles).
3) Get the scrolls in level 3.
4) Take a note-book and right down the pattern (top, middle, bottom) of enemies when you need to jump across the gaps in the sewer right before rescuing Splinter
5) Good luck with the moving spike walls before the giant mouser in level 4 (sorry can't help with this one).
6) In level 5, if you commit suicide and use a continue then the Techno- Drome will ALWAYS be in the bottom left corner.
7) Before you go for the Techno-Drome, load up ALL your turtles with scrolls from the warehouse in the top left corner.
8) Inside the Techno-Drome, DO NOT go down through the floor spikes (unless you're trying a speed run). Instead, climb the ladder up and go the long way around. Power ups can be found behind the wall-mounted guns.
9) In the yellow room of death before Shredder, AVOID the flying lasers by ducking down with Don and attacking with his staff. KEEP MOVING! Don't stop to kill them until the passageway gets VERY narrow. When this happens you MUST kill every enemy on screen. In the narrowest part of the corridor, you don't have to kill the sprite coming towards you, just duck down and let them come in and out of the screen.
10) When you reach Shredder place yourself on the smallest platform in the boss area and keep knocking him down with Don...or you can use another turtle and spam Shredder with scrolls. DONE! (the easy-ish way)
Cool series. Regarding this game in particular, it's not that it's impossibly difficult; it's just that the game is absurd. The mechanics and the overall feel of everything are out of whack.
@7:30 - I used to get hell here until I figured out you can flip up to the top. You have to basically edge it and keep pulling left and you'll get on top. Highly advisable that you either kill the robot or reset the enemy to the flame guy though.
Ohman! Thank you so much for doing this. This unfinished game has been haunting me for nearly 3 decades now. Now I can die in peace. 😇
Great video! I always had the theory that Donnie does more damage because his weapon is so long the hitbox lingers and counts as 2 hits.
8:11 you can also jump straight up from the bottom of the floor if you glitch it just right instead of having to make that ledge jump for the pizza and back to this direction. (I know, not a speed run....but it saves a lot of backtracking in this part of the building)
I love this serious!! So happy this came up on my recommend! I’ve subbed. Please keep doing these.
13:00 6 year old me could play the game up till this point without losing a turtle, then get to this specific jump and always get knocked off the ledge by the enemies here while making a jump. I never got further than this, thank you for showing me the rest of the game.
Ah, NES TMNT, AKA "If you lose Donatello hit Reset"
I actually beat this game on the original NES cart a few times growing up. I would always farm 99 scrolls on like 2 Turtles.
I always loved how Hamato Yoshi looked like John Hurt in the ending.
Watching this then beating the game is like bringing the answers to your math test and then being proud of yourself for passing
This video just brought back so many memories... of throwing my remote at the TV. I didn't beat stage 3 until I was in my 20's.
15:46
Don't risk losing the turtle !! 🐢
Ah yes, Never a truer word spoken
FYI, you can attack while spin jumping with Leo... just hit the buttons at the exact same time.
Also if you use Leo or Donatello vs shredder at the end. If you stay on the top platform and just swing your weapon downward while he is trying to jump up you can hit him every time without being hit. Another glitch so to speak
the Cowabunga collection has a rewind option if you screw up a jump or fall, I abused the hell out of it
I actually like the boomerangs as a secondary weapon. Yes, they are limited range, but if you catch them when they come back to you, you don't lose them!
you sir are a very patient man. This game felt like it would never end - the level design is so bad that it doesn't even make sense.
Honestly, compared to the other vids, Ryu sounds much more condescending here.
"You won't be able to pull that off"
"Do what I told you"
"If you farmed, as I told you to do"
These are the only vids I watched from you, quality content I hope you come back to this series
Fun fact…….. I was a small kid watching my dad in awe fight shredder for the first time. My mom was angry at how late it was and how we ignored her previous calls for bed. So she came and turned off the game. ……….. my dad was so mad. I never saw him get to shredder again. If only we had Ryu’s strategy video back then, he could’ve gotten revenge.
20:07 you can bug the boss and then you can hit even when the mouth is closed. I remember you have to hit it once then pause(turtle select screen) and voila.
by 10:26 farming could be good, for some areas or bosses, but i garantee farming the boomerang in the last world makes the technodrome much easier to the hallway to Shredder, because when the boomerangs come back u can catch them without a waste :) i beat the game a few days ago in twitch but with the ne cowabunga collection, i took 4 Streams to actually learn and beat the game. great playthrough ryu
Based only on the title, I immediately subscribed and am now commenting. I watch a lot of retro content and when I hear a certain game is impossible or watch a list of the hardest NES games (“Ninja Gaiden,” for example) I’m always like “well I did it and my friends beat it and we’re pretty typical of late 70s early 80s born gamers so what’s the deal?”
I’d like to schedule an appointment to get my horses shoes changed.
To me walking over the water platforms gave me the most trouble. So many players would get stuck halfway in the game trying to get through that damn sewer section. He made it look very easy here but that is the biggest flaw in this game. At the 12:40 mark in the video. You will pull your hair out and curse this game several times.
The only TMNT game that I thought was horrible. Good video man👊🏿
Seriously, FUCK THIS GAME. The entire back-half is borderline impossible and the paths are completely random.
You really did need a PhD degree to beat this game back in the day. Thanks for showing me what the rest of the 90% of this game looked like.
Shredder is absurdly easy to beat. You can basically use the Rocksteady strategy from Level 1. "It's over Shredder! I have the high ground! "
There are areas of the game where you will be owned if you go through as Donatello because he is terrible at fighting groups of low to the ground enemies as Michelangelo or Raph are much better at protecting themselves from low to the ground groups also Donatello has a slightly larger hit window between his attacks. Donatello is still by far my favorite turtle in story canon and every video game, he just isn’t as great in comparison to the other turtles, as you hear often, imo. LOVED THE VIDEO! Playing through all the games on the cowabunga collection right now.
Great video and series. I'm sure you have received this request numerous times but I just want to add my voice to the chorus: Battletoads. I believe I was only ever able to beat it using all the warps. Would love to see a full playthrough of all the garbage levels like Clinger Winger.
I should revisit this game, was unable to finish it at 4 years old and developed a long-standing hatred for water levels as a result. I managed Megaman 2 at the time (and loved Bubbleman's stage ironically) but without the pass screen I doubt it would have been possible.
Great selection to kick off the series -- this game was SO hard
When i was a kid, I didn't know we could change turtles while playing. And ended up having to complete the water level with only 1 turtle. It is doable
You know, even as a kid back 1991-1993 I could make it through the first two parts; even the dam didn't bother me much.
I never, ever made it past the third world. The difficulty ramps up considerably in that part, and as a kid with no guides, no internet, it can be rough. If and when you find the missiles, how do you use them (I thought back then that you'd use them similar to the shurikens, etc)? And once you realize you can use them in the turtle van, how do you know that you can shoot the barricades? Which barricades do you shoot? If you run out of missiles trial-and-error-ing this part, you have to go back and get more, likely taking a lot of damage. And that's not even touching on the later worlds lol.
Thank you so much bro for covering the nes games they are old but Gold
The damn stage only stumped me as a kid for a week or so. I was way more stumped at the stage at night where you have to find the technodrome. I would always have to goto bed or something before I found the damn thing and shut the game off.
I did eventually beat it though. In the end the only game I never beat as a kid was Solstice.
..."which makes no sense" seems like a good catch phrase
I recall this game being SUPER hard but you've made it look really easy
So basically, to beat the game, you need to cheese it. Lovely...
I've owned this game for 30 years... Made it out of the water level maybe twice......
I finally beat it!!! Man this game is so broken, you need to know everything beforehand or you are done. It requires some heavy planning, thanks for the guide ryu!!!
I cannot believe I was ONE FREAKING LEVEL away from beating the game as a child.....and I gave up because I didn't know I was THAT close to winning.
Life Lesson: Never give up on your dreams because you NEVER know what's around the corner
Its not about it being "hard" its about when these games were released we didn't have access to what we have now. No guides or youtube videos we had Nintendo power and Nintendo power hotline for 0.99 a minute.
Now we have people reading the game code and speed running some of the hardest games in mere minutes. I remember it took me a long time to beat this game because I simply didn't know where to go or what to do I would run around for hours without dying once
omg i remember i was playing this game when i was like 12-13 years old , so it's been 27 years ago . i remember it was difficult but i was young also , i 've went to the water level but i don't remember the rest so i think i've never finished the water level lmao.
Anyway so cool that you play it.
I remember playing this my childhood best friend and reaching shredder after 7 or 8 hours of playing. While we were fighting him my dad got home and unplugged the game console. Never picked tried it again after that. Might try it again on my mini emulator console:D
I do actually remember feeding the dam bomb defusal once or twice when I was a kid, but I could never figure out how to get past the barricades on the next level.
Never could get all the bombs defused as a kid. Was just showing my son this game, and lamenting that I'll never play beyond the watery death.
This seems more like “deconstructing”, rather than “debunking.”
when i was a kid i thought if you got past the water level you passed the game...then i watched a playthrough and realized i wasnt even half done.
Kid Chameleon on the Genesis.
So many levels, no saves, no passwords, maze like pathways.
Take my sub and destroy this game.
My friends and I beat this game a few times back in 1989. I bought the game the year it came out !!! It was a fun game for the time it came out !!!
It's funny how I feel like I understood farming in Zelda 1 and 2 but never in this game as a kid
I wish someone had done a rom hack of this game which changes the damage each turtle does. The damage order should be Raph>Mike>Leo>Don
I beat this game and I'll say this. There are a few segments where it's pure unfair BS and requires you to basically cheat by de-spawning enemies or full out knowing not to jump or half jump etc. Classic Nintendo unfairness but it's not hard. It's like knowing the location of a secret in Zelda basically.
I spent a whole summer off school learning to beat this game, i did it finally 2days befor the next year of school started.
The level after dam is easy none of this is hard until you try to reach shredder that small walk way is a nightmare to get through
I remember how hard all my nes games was when i played them as kid. Few years ago i tried play them again and they were now soo much easier. Ofcourse i have now almost 30 years gaming experience. 👍
Well, there are scrolls in the technodrome (have to go over a large Jump to the left where there is a gun turret on the wall). Those are the ones I usually use for the shit room near the end
i have been able to beat this game since 3rd grade. It took some time but it never felt impossible. 45 minutes is my average time. I can usually get through the damn with 1 or 2 hits, I have gotten through it without getting hit at all about 50% of the times I play. I always get the scrolls in the first house on level 3 in the sewer below it. I give them to mikey. I keep Donatello at high life often. Half this game is mainly just knowing where to go to save life & health. I use scrolls on megaturtle at the end of 3. I use donny a lot because of the 1 hit. Finding the technodrome is a little irritating because it's random of 3 places so I always choose the easy one first. Once in the technodrome I go left & stay high & up instead of dropping the down path. I find the scrolls in the technodrome & give them to Mikey again. Once in the last hallway where the astronauts are I inch forward & crouch when they appear & they will travel into the screen ahead & disappear. Every other enemy is a little robot & I use Donny in this hall to kill them but skip the astronauts. Get to the end & I use the scrolls with mikey on shredder. Not too fast or they just go through him without hurting him, just a medium pace before he can pull his mutant gun out. I didn't know about that duck trick on fighting the technodrome! If you pause while fighting the huge mouser only when the ball appears in his mouth, unpause & it will still show through his mouth & you can keep hitting it even though his mouth is closed. I had no idea about that super glitch in the technodrome either WTF! My way in the hardest hallway makes it completely easy & you don't need any scrolls. You only need donny or boomerangs. Do that same ducking when you first enter the hallway but after you run after the first 2 sets of astronauts using boomerangs or donatello. It isn't that hard really once you have it down. This is still one of my favorite games to play every year since 1988. That was a magical time, all my friends had an NES after a couple of years & since me & my brother had a paper route we rented games as much as we could every weekend. We could have bought 1 a month with our money or rent like 2 or 3 every weekend, so we rented.
Please do "Battletoads" and "Kid Icarus." Those games were so hard back in the day!
I wish I would have known the boss cheeses when I was growing up. Proud to say I beat it several times without them though!
Finally beat this game. Used save states of course lol. The last few levels are brutal.
Once I learned how good the scrolls were I was able to beat it. Wasn’t easy actually felt a lot was luck finding which tunnel the Technodorne was in.
I remember beating Shredder with just Ninja stars before. The game is hard, but honestly no more harder then most beloved NES games like Megaman or Castlevania. In fact, those seem harder to me, as I can breeze through TMNT still without losing a turtle, but not those games.
2 of my favorite NES games are the original Metroid and Metal Gear… straight classics.
As a child I never figured out that items respawn. I ran out of ropes and couldnt cross the gap. Frustrating.
It took me 3 years to beat this game as a kid! Don't forget to tell them the jump is button sensitive!
I bought an NES just for this game and I was absolutely terrible at it. Completing it seems like solving Fermat's Last Theorem to me!
Oh damn great idea for a concept! Id suggest mega man 1 and castlevania for episode ideas
I never made it past level 4 without the game genie. But I also didn't know about being able to farm pizza and items like scrolls...
Got this game for Christmas 1990 finally completed it 1997. It's a tough game.
I only ever played this back in the original early days. Could never make “the jump” to get the missiles, could ever get past the barricades. But I loved it until that point. What a waste my childhood was!
You wasn’t even born when this game was released imagine playing this game as a 6 year old
Beat this game years and years ago when I had original hardware that still worked. Don’t have the patience for it any more though.
Thank you so much for this. Very thorough and to the point help! You made a lot of this look like a walk in the park. Subbed!
this is a great series ryu!!! btw splinter turns into a human at the end of this game???? wtf!????
This Game was difficult if you didn’t know where to go and enemies re-spawning after remembering the pattern it made it a bit easy put patient is the key in certain parts
My childhood game. Thanks for making this video. :)