Everyone hates old school coaches til it’s time to turn an organization around. Does anyone remember how the Hawks were doing when they hired Nate mid-season.
Steve Kerr isn’t a old school coach as far as mentality, neither is the Bucks coach, won’t attempt to spell it, Mike Malone, Monty Williams, Willie Green, etc, these are the types of guys players like to play for, players tune out the screamer, the dictator, he’s days are numbered .
@@Supreme36074 True most of them is from that era too but their mentality is different. Still think Nate is getting the short end of the stick here. Them players have some major responsibilities In this
Exactly, the hawks were hot garbage before they hired Nate. Then he proved himself, now it’s a problem that they can’t the way they did when they were trash!! Make it make sense
@@kj7682 I think people assume that because you're from that era that you have to be old school but I think Mark Jackson is an example of somebody that's like a hybrid he's old school but he's just such a great coach in that he knows how to get greatness out of young players. What he did with stuff and Clay was amazing and I think even though he was not a coach that could bring them the ring which I totally agree he couldn't and wasn't able to do I do think that he's an example of a guy that most people would assume is old school and he's absolutely completely not that in reality
This point is stupid. White men would also like white coaches in the league: does that mean that white men wouldn’t scrutinise white coaches? Yes, we want a multi-cultural Coached basketball league but that doesn’t absolve coaches from scrutiny and the responsibility to produce wins.
As a Black man, I would agree with this comment 1000%.... Doc Rivers constantly get shitted on... Dwayne Casey got fired after winning coach of the year....
Nate isn't the problem. Trae Young is the problem. He shoots in the low 40%, low 30% from 3 and shoots the Hawks out of plenty of games. Also, Matt Barnes just flows with popular opinion, see his comments on Ime Udoka.
@@ddavis8988 that's called a shooting slump when a guy that prolific is shooting like that. When your player especially your star player says he needs treatment rather than shoot around you let him shoot around. Remember these are NBA guys who have connections in the league, and the whispers are that he's losing the locker room. Additionally Trae is also adjusting to playing with D Murray.
@@CA3iNC Trae isn’t a prolific shooter though. He shoots below league average from the 3 for his career. He’s a chucker with bad shot selection that is a great passer and has a good floater game. He has no business taking Steph level shots.
Nate literally expected his STAR player & the supposed leader of the team to attend a walk through. Not run plays, not run sprints, not do any kind of skill work, just be at a walk through which according to Vince Carter & Richard Jefferson is something they've never seen a player balk at.
Just because you played the game doesn't mean that you know everything about the game. How many teams has Matt Barnes coached ? To make the transition from player to coach can not be easy.
I love his podcast with Stack, but Matt is atrocious as an NBA analyst! He never calls players on their BS and it's always someone else's fault. This era of "player empowerment" has removed accountability on the players part.
I mean it’s not the league it’s the generation, they feel entitled as a whole especially my people. I call it role reversal where women are more masculine and men are feminine, kids are the adults and the kids are adults
It’s crazy because Nate isn’t that old. He was in the NBA with MJ, Bird and Magic and those guys. Him and Doc Rivers are around the same age. Dudes like Popovich are old. He was coaching the Spurs since the 90s.
Here we go again? What about Popovich? He’s been a shell of himself since Duncan retired…is he gonna name Pop? How about Tom Thibodeau? They’re old skool coaches who are not making serious noise.
He’s not saying old school as in years in he’s talking about mentality, as he mentioned . & players today don’t respond to the dictator type coaches any longer.
Their guests haven't been good and I just feel like I don't learn anything knew from the guests they have on there Asking where they from, I can find out on their Wikipedia page. Constantly talking about that We Believe team gets old. Like their show got stale
@@MikeBNumba6 idk what you talking bout but I guess....These the same two dudes who were damn near campaigning for Nate to get the Hawks job and now this what they saying and we haven't even hit Christmas yet
Nah Trae Young ass needs to be held accountable... he don't play defense.. the opposing guard always get off on Trae.. Nate McMillan isn't the issue.. stop coddling these young players..
That's wild they went to the Eastern Conference Finals with Nate Mcllien. He an Excellent coach!! Trae young will never go back to Eastern conference finals if this is his attitude. Trae got an excellent coach fired today.
It's sick to bad mouth someone like this trying to get them fired. I hate people who do that in a corporate space. It's childish. I see why Gloria upgraded.
Doc Rivers is an old school coach & he gets a pass for winning 1 title 14yrs ago dude hasn’t been past the 2nd round since losing in the 2010 finals idk why the media always gives him a pass
The way I see it in my opinion view it doesn't matter If your old nor new school, it's all about in today's world we're living in, It's about our modern culture communication in winning and if the newer generation isn't following the culture that the head coach that's buying and the players not selling, then it's time to find a new head coach that will give in to this team and won't lose the locker room and the organization.
I see everyone is hating on Barnes' take... but he's not lying! Nate is one of those old-skool coaches where it's "my way or the highway!" That method has worked in previous eras before... but there's a reason why guys like Nate & Stan Van Gundy are being phased out..... I'll be shocked if Nate makes it past all-star break......
Right cause Trae DEFINITELY couldn’t be the problem right? He’s never shown signs that he’s an egotistical child, regardless of how Nates style of coaching is, Trae has shown that he’s not very adaptable to the players around him and him and Murray together is an absolute cancer lol, 2 guys who haven’t done alot in the league acting like they’re Bron and DWade
@@shanehouston3178 facts. Also, let's remember where the Hawks & Trae himself were before Nate to over. It also doesn't help Trae's argument that the Hawks played arguably their best game of the year without him. I'm not saying they're better without him but still
@@lionelgrisbane-ud87 Nate has a 731-638 .534 record jackass, he doesn't have to be my coach. Numbers don't lie, these crybaby players can't take a grown men holding accountable for their F ups, period! I betta Trae wasn't bitchin when they went deep into the playoffs now was he?
But bench players got da most insight because they have to constantly adjust they game depending on their coach style.. and they have to keep dey ego in ✔️ and take da role they was hired to do... Iman Shumpret broke it down da best in his Vlad interview... All da players that are stars in college get accustom to they style of play in college for years and sometimes they not being challenged if they killin the competition with only half the effort because the college competition isn't as fierce as da NBA if u a 🐐 on dat court... Then after draft day , the player that was a star in college get put on a team where the star is already established n got a relationship wit the coach... so now the great players become role players because the coach is not going to sit down his starter unless he gets injured... So now you go from playing all 4 quarters to barely any playing minutes at all .. then on top of that if the the way basketball is being played changes constantly... now the new draft pick have to adjust from what he has been using to dominate in college for years to whatever the coach tells them
Matt THE WEED has your BRAIN 🧠 This NBA is Trash 🗑 everyone tries to MIMIC Currys style of play. No DEFENSE NO BIGGS in the paint play. Comments Hilarious!
Basketball is still basketball. There is indisputable fact that playing the game from inside out is far better than outside in. The game hasn’t passed him by the players think shooting 40 foot threes is sexy. It’s not and to my point look at how many bad shooters there are now in the league.
I disagree with Matt. The old school ways work, but you must adopt some new school principles. In regards to Nate McMillan, the problem is Trae Young. I know that he is a good scorer, but he's literally a hit and miss. He's not a good floor general, he doesn't make his teammates better, and the Hawks (minus J'Dounte Murray) plays no defense.
Matt is just not a "fan" of authority, or authoritative figures, to be more specific. He was a great player (especially with the defensive intensity sustained throughout) and an even better media personality. But he had a problem w/ Nate McMillan, Doc Rivers, another coach he's mentioned whom I also recall was a black coach. So yeah, don't tell Matt what to do! lol.
Nate McMillan teams haven't been title contenders but I think this hawks team is to similar from the conference final team and the league waits for nobody.
I know the coach is responsible for some degree and is usually the scapegoat when the ship sinks but we not gonna talk about trae is lowkey not a leader on the court and is having a sub par season in terms of efficiency, while still turning the ball over too much?
Adapt to this new culture NBA ratings of down because the game has turned into trash all the old school fans know it and all the new Millennials are too dumb to see it
While I agree the game has passed Nate by, I also feel that Trae Young was wrong as well. This isn’t the first time we’ve heard about discension in Atlanta. The culture with that team has been off for the last 6 years or so
NBA fans need to start asking is Trae Young coachable. Because wasn’t the reason why Lloyd Pierce was fired and Nate McMillan was hired because Trae Young was getting too much preferential treatment?
Age has nothing to do with knowledge of the game and has nothing to do with players talent being better than what it is. How can you expect players who reached their ceiling to be better than their ceiling. That's not coaching that's what happens when talent and effort are maximized. The fact you using age to define a game that is Xs and Os. That's basically perpetuating a narrative on him and coaches abilities.
Nate McMillan isn’t some bum who hasn’t paid his dues as a coach, though. Nor, has he ever had the media pumping his tires as someone who “deserves” a job as an NBA Head Coach just because he belongs to a certain demographic like a certain other person has. It’s unfortunate that he ultimately will lose this battle against the franchise player, but when he does, it won’t be because he “can’t coach”.
@@Fakename70 You putting too much energy into this. McMillan is a good coach, but he’s never taken a team that far consistently. Atlanta had a surprise run two years ago, but they’ve failed to recapture that. Nobody ever said he was a bum, so you wasted a lot of energy oversimplifying my opinion.
@@nate8604 You’re actually half-right. Now that I re-read your comment, I realise that all you really did was spout a predictable sports cliche with very little thought behind it to make yourself appear knowledgeable about the situation.
Nate McMillan wants teams to play great defense and play sound team offense. How nice of Barnes to disrespect and dismiss him as some irrelevant Neanderthal.
I don't believe that..... Every year the team that wins... Wins with the basics...a big man.....a true point guard...a wing man than can score......a three point guy in the corner and defense.... All the fancy new stuff is for the regular season.... But I'm not a Nate fan either
I listened to Nate talk on the radio when he was first coaching. I couldn't stand listening to him. It was like listening to a bot. Bland, unimaginative, a fount of clichés.
Bruh the current era ain't shit but 20 something teams trying to play like the damn warriors AND IT DOESN'T WORK!!!!! I miss the days when teams had their own separate play styles. IT'S ONLY ONE KLAY AND ONE STEPH AND THEY'RE IN THE BAY.
Steve Kerr old school coach n learned from 2 old school coaches. Pop n Phil. This is why it's really only 1-2 teams always winning now. Lebron with lue, n pat Riley protege n Kerr. All these "new school" coaches have zero rings. Explain that for me plz?
WEll wat u saying matt burns barns ???!!! Wat is his style of coaching wat is old school coaching how's does he do it is coach karl (mates old coach) like that wat bout chunsey billups matter fact name the 5 coaches that have styles that need to be retire hell jus fire him n the other 4 m higher derrick fisher n his 4 friends to handle the teams that u r referring to or of sir?????
1. Everyone here is overly focused on what is meant by "old school" . What you want is an old school _work ethic_ . But the old school ideology of taking on a dictatorship role as a leader (not being in tune with player and team morale, refusing to adapt to better understand where your players are coming from so that you can pull out the best in your players, putting your own needs ahead of your own players needs) is not going to work with smarter, more wary players that aren't just going to sacrifice for _every single coach that blows a whistle_ than in the past. Coaching is not a 'one size fits all' profession. You either start better understanding how you can get the best out of your players, or you'll be out on your ass looking for another job at another franchise. 2. A team's overall attitude is a reflection of its leadership, not the other way around. I can concede that Trae has been out of pocket lately, but that doesn't change the fact that the _entire team_ hasn't performed well. That means their leader (Coach Nate) is not doing his best to understand the teams needs, so that the team may be successful. Losing the locker room means you are detached from your team as a coach. Lazily proclaiming everything is a single players fault or that today's players are "soft" are *fucking stupid takes* . Have an actual informed opinion instead of parroting dumb shit like this. 3. You can still be an "old school coach" while still being able to adapt to the modern day NBA culture. Coach Nate is not doing the latter. Don't ever expect your team to perform with high efficiency if you as a coach aren't willing to do the same on your end. Figure it out or your gone, because Trae isn't going any fucking where period. And they don't do "franchise tags" for coaches.
@@mayankingrevisited8137 men who think their emotions don't exist are the biggest generation of sensitive snowflakes around. If your coaching style doesn't work, then you, the coach, are the problem. Cry about it, snowflake.
Hmm, sounfd like you are trying take money out another man's pocket. No specific criticism , his schemes or game management, just a general meaningless criticism.
Everyone hates old school coaches til it’s time to turn an organization around. Does anyone remember how the Hawks were doing when they hired Nate mid-season.
Steve Kerr isn’t a old school coach as far as mentality, neither is the Bucks coach, won’t attempt to spell it, Mike Malone, Monty Williams, Willie Green, etc, these are the types of guys players like to play for, players tune out the screamer, the dictator, he’s days are numbered .
@@Supreme36074 True most of them is from that era too but their mentality is different. Still think Nate is getting the short end of the stick here. Them players have some major responsibilities In this
Exactly, the hawks were hot garbage before they hired Nate. Then he proved himself, now it’s a problem that they can’t the way they did when they were trash!! Make it make sense
@@kj7682 I think people assume that because you're from that era that you have to be old school but I think Mark Jackson is an example of somebody that's like a hybrid he's old school but he's just such a great coach in that he knows how to get greatness out of young players. What he did with stuff and Clay was amazing and I think even though he was not a coach that could bring them the ring which I totally agree he couldn't and wasn't able to do I do think that he's an example of a guy that most people would assume is old school and he's absolutely completely not that in reality
U fail to realize Nate system wasn’t put in til the following season
They want more black coaches but then slander them every chance they get lol
They be having tight leeches
Not slander
Mannnn fr come on nate McMillian is doing a good job with that wild ass roster they so thin in the front court
This point is stupid. White men would also like white coaches in the league: does that mean that white men wouldn’t scrutinise white coaches? Yes, we want a multi-cultural Coached basketball league but that doesn’t absolve coaches from scrutiny and the responsibility to produce wins.
As a Black man, I would agree with this comment 1000%.... Doc Rivers constantly get shitted on... Dwayne Casey got fired after winning coach of the year....
Nate isn't the problem. Trae Young is the problem. He shoots in the low 40%, low 30% from 3 and shoots the Hawks out of plenty of games. Also, Matt Barnes just flows with popular opinion, see his comments on Ime Udoka.
Lazy ass comment
Exactly!
He's not even a 30% 3point shooter anymore, he's in the 20s.
You shouldn't be taking 21.6 shots a game if you're shooting 40.8%.
@@ddavis8988 that's called a shooting slump when a guy that prolific is shooting like that. When your player especially your star player says he needs treatment rather than shoot around you let him shoot around. Remember these are NBA guys who have connections in the league, and the whispers are that he's losing the locker room.
Additionally Trae is also adjusting to playing with D Murray.
@@CA3iNC Trae isn’t a prolific shooter though. He shoots below league average from the 3 for his career. He’s a chucker with bad shot selection that is a great passer and has a good floater game. He has no business taking Steph level shots.
Nate literally expected his STAR player & the supposed leader of the team to attend a walk through. Not run plays, not run sprints, not do any kind of skill work, just be at a walk through which according to Vince Carter & Richard Jefferson is something they've never seen a player balk at.
THE MAN JUST TOOK THEM TO THE EASTERN CONFERENCE FINALS 🤔
Then lost in the first round in 5 the next year. Didn't improve from getting to the ecf the season before
They played injured teams tho to make finals and beating Philly isn't that impressive.
@@oldmansportsog2514Beating Philly was very impressive & who was injured on the Knicks?
Trae took them there. The coach needs to remember that
@@oldmansportsog2514philly was the first seed wym not impressive u clown 😂
Just because you played the game doesn't mean that you know everything about the game. How many teams has Matt Barnes coached ? To make the transition from player to coach can not be easy.
Trae was on some bs lets be honest
Yeah he's a brat with talent
Murray and Young have both shown to be immature.
These new cats whine too much. These youngstas are soft so the NBA has gotten soft
I agree, but it's a different generation of player nowadays.
Your franchise player can always be on some bs.
He wouldn’t say the same about Pop
First off, Pops a winner. Pops old school but his players love him. He has even adapted to an extent.
Rings matter
@@StandardsFC no he hasn’t he lost Kawhi and been shit ever since
@@EVERYDAYFOOTBALLDAY so we are going to ignore the 5 championships he has won?
@@StandardsFC wasn’t Tim Duncan there? Sim Tim left it’s been nothing but downhill spiral
I love his podcast with Stack, but Matt is atrocious as an NBA analyst! He never calls players on their BS and it's always someone else's fault. This era of "player empowerment" has removed accountability on the players part.
This New, Younger, Soft Shit! Gotcha!
I mean it’s not the league it’s the generation, they feel entitled as a whole especially my people. I call it role reversal where women are more masculine and men are feminine, kids are the adults and the kids are adults
It’s crazy because Nate isn’t that old. He was in the NBA with MJ, Bird and Magic and those guys. Him and Doc Rivers are around the same age. Dudes like Popovich are old. He was coaching the Spurs since the 90s.
Damn... not he callin for brah's job🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Here we go again? What about Popovich? He’s been a shell of himself since Duncan retired…is he gonna name Pop? How about Tom Thibodeau? They’re old skool coaches who are not making serious noise.
He’s not saying old school
as in years in he’s talking about mentality, as he mentioned . & players today don’t respond to the dictator type coaches any longer.
He did say there are about 5 or so coaches
That’s fair BUT he did say there’s about 5 left AND the others don’t have issues in the locker room. They’re just not good teams.
I mean... The warrior's offense came from Coach Pop not Nate McMillan lol.
Thibs qualifies but Pop's been a players coach
he was right
He definitely called it
McMillan had a winning record in the last 7 seasons he's been a head coach
This aged well
Now I understand why the numbers for All The Smoke and What's Burning have fell off so steeply the way they have
Their guests haven't been good and I just feel like I don't learn anything knew from the guests they have on there
Asking where they from, I can find out on their Wikipedia page.
Constantly talking about that We Believe team gets old.
Like their show got stale
@@MikeBNumba6 idk what you talking bout but I guess....These the same two dudes who were damn near campaigning for Nate to get the Hawks job and now this what they saying and we haven't even hit Christmas yet
Nah Trae Young ass needs to be held accountable... he don't play defense.. the opposing guard always get off on Trae.. Nate McMillan isn't the issue.. stop coddling these young players..
You know how they are when they go on the Podcast.
@@1990758 facts..
That's wild they went to the Eastern Conference Finals with Nate Mcllien. He an Excellent coach!! Trae young will never go back to Eastern conference finals if this is his attitude. Trae got an excellent coach fired today.
Only kids spits on people, not grown men 🙄
Barnes a psychic
He is proven right! Hawks have fired their Coach
He wasn’t proven right. Trey would have to start winning more now with a new coach
"Matt Barnes is NOT a fan of Nate McMillan" Matt Barnes also was a big fan of Ime Fuckdoka until Matty B had to dial his shit back a bit😂
He's still a big fan. Ime is a top coach. You weirdo
Matt never said he wasn't a fan of Ime and his coaching
@@moark Acc. to this clip he again does not have all the (public) information. you weirdo ;-)
@@anitriakimmons9673 who is talking about the Coaching xD me obv not
Nate took Atlanta to playoffs every year
It's sick to bad mouth someone like this trying to get them fired. I hate people who do that in a corporate space. It's childish. I see why Gloria upgraded.
The formula is ( old school work ethics × modern play ÷ analytics = success.
Sorry dude this new culture and generation sucks! We need some old school men back in this league, to teach these little boys how to be men!
Doc Rivers is an old school coach & he gets a pass for winning 1 title 14yrs ago dude hasn’t been past the 2nd round since losing in the 2010 finals idk why the media always gives him a pass
Nice prediction Matt
Do they feel the same about Greg pop?
The way I see it in my opinion view it doesn't matter If your old nor new school, it's all about in today's world we're living in, It's about our modern culture communication in winning and if the newer generation isn't following the culture that the head coach that's buying and the players not selling, then it's time to find a new head coach that will give in to this team and won't lose the locker room and the organization.
So the Atlanta Hawks just fired him. Wow
Nate has adapted since the days of Brandon Roy isolation rinse repeat. I just think parity and shooting are off the charts and the Hawks are mediocre.
Ime Udoka to the Hawks let’s go!
that would be great
He'll smash all the secretaries
😂
Atlanta is not the place for a man who cheats lol
@@TanNguyen510tooo many baddies there and strippers 😆
Why wish that man be fired?
So says the guy who could only play defense 😂🤦🏾♂️
I see everyone is hating on Barnes' take... but he's not lying! Nate is one of those old-skool coaches where it's "my way or the highway!"
That method has worked in previous eras before... but there's a reason why guys like Nate & Stan Van Gundy are being phased out.....
I'll be shocked if Nate makes it past all-star break......
Stan got phased out because that was his style AND his team's weren't winning. Nate's teams generally do unless there's an injury
Right cause Trae DEFINITELY couldn’t be the problem right? He’s never shown signs that he’s an egotistical child, regardless of how Nates style of coaching is, Trae has shown that he’s not very adaptable to the players around him and him and Murray together is an absolute cancer lol, 2 guys who haven’t done alot in the league acting like they’re Bron and DWade
@@shanehouston3178 facts. Also, let's remember where the Hawks & Trae himself were before Nate to over. It also doesn't help Trae's argument that the Hawks played arguably their best game of the year without him. I'm not saying they're better without him but still
Big shock hes always taking the player's side no matter how wrong he is.
Nate is a great coach that wants you to work hard, period. I have no problem with that
Have you been coached by him? No? Then keep your mouth shut.
@@lionelgrisbane-ud87 Nate has a 731-638 .534 record jackass, he doesn't have to be my coach. Numbers don't lie, these crybaby players can't take a grown men holding accountable for their F ups, period! I betta Trae wasn't bitchin when they went deep into the playoffs now was he?
But people are applauding Deion Sanders for being an old school coach?? Yes it’s football but his ways are old school.
John Tortorella as well.
Bench players talking like starters
But bench players got da most insight because they have to constantly adjust they game depending on their coach style.. and they have to keep dey ego in ✔️ and take da role they was hired to do... Iman Shumpret broke it down da best in his Vlad interview... All da players that are stars in college get accustom to they style of play in college for years and sometimes they not being challenged if they killin the competition with only half the effort because the college competition isn't as fierce as da NBA if u a 🐐 on dat court... Then after draft day , the player that was a star in college get put on a team where the star is already established n got a relationship wit the coach... so now the great players become role players because the coach is not going to sit down his starter unless he gets injured... So now you go from playing all 4 quarters to barely any playing minutes at all .. then on top of that if the the way basketball is being played changes constantly... now the new draft pick have to adjust from what he has been using to dominate in college for years to whatever the coach tells them
😂😂😂
Matt THE WEED has your BRAIN 🧠 This NBA is Trash 🗑 everyone tries to MIMIC Currys style of play. No DEFENSE NO BIGGS in the paint play. Comments Hilarious!
Basketball is still basketball. There is indisputable fact that playing the game from inside out is far better than outside in. The game hasn’t passed him by the players think shooting 40 foot threes is sexy. It’s not and to my point look at how many bad shooters there are now in the league.
Say it again 💯
I disagree with Matt. The old school ways work, but you must adopt some new school principles.
In regards to Nate McMillan, the problem is Trae Young. I know that he is a good scorer, but he's literally a hit and miss. He's not a good floor general, he doesn't make his teammates better, and the Hawks (minus J'Dounte Murray) plays no defense.
Matt is just not a "fan" of authority, or authoritative figures, to be more specific. He was a great player (especially with the defensive intensity sustained throughout) and an even better media personality. But he had a problem w/ Nate McMillan, Doc Rivers, another coach he's mentioned whom I also recall was a black coach. So yeah, don't tell Matt what to do! lol.
He was an incredibly average player
Nate McMillan teams haven't been title contenders but I think this hawks team is to similar from the conference final team and the league waits for nobody.
Say it ain’t so Matt 😂
There’s something personal here
Now he with the lakers coaching staff
Exactly why mark Jackson doesn’t have a job coaching a team.
Steve Kerr is from the old school, and it's not about old school ways it's about coaching your talemt and building a team of talented players. .
Neither am I imagine what hawks would of done with a steve kerr type coach
Matt Barnes, Cmon bro..... You on one..
So vague. How is he not adapting? What makes you think he lost the locker room?
None of this is slander. It’s facts
Spurs been down last 5 seasons and they never downed ole skool Pop
Kids wanna be talked to not coached and yelled at
I still don't know why anyone asks this guy's opinion on anything 🙄
Translation: Let the babies run the ship,
I think winning cures most things. Nate McMillan will be canned for not winning.
I know the coach is responsible for some degree and is usually the scapegoat when the ship sinks but we not gonna talk about trae is lowkey not a leader on the court and is having a sub par season in terms of efficiency, while still turning the ball over too much?
That man had a terrible playoff record
Adapt to this new culture NBA ratings of down because the game has turned into trash all the old school fans know it and all the new Millennials are too dumb to see it
I rocks wit Matt barnes
Trae Young shooting 31% from the 3 but people be acting like he young Steph Curry. Dude has the the 2nd worst 3pt % of the Hawks Starters.
While I agree the game has passed Nate by, I also feel that Trae Young was wrong as well. This isn’t the first time we’ve heard about discension in Atlanta. The culture with that team has been off for the last 6 years or so
NBA fans need to start asking is Trae Young coachable. Because wasn’t the reason why Lloyd Pierce was fired and Nate McMillan was hired because Trae Young was getting too much preferential treatment?
You hit the nail on the head.
Trae got the small man complex where he fights for his respect but then it reaches a point where it also makes him a headache at times
Age has nothing to do with knowledge of the game and has nothing to do with players talent being better than what it is. How can you expect players who reached their ceiling to be better than their ceiling. That's not coaching that's what happens when talent and effort are maximized. The fact you using age to define a game that is Xs and Os. That's basically perpetuating a narrative on him and coaches abilities.
Being old-school has nothing to do with it. Either you can coach, or you can’t.
Nate McMillan isn’t some bum who hasn’t paid his dues as a coach, though. Nor, has he ever had the media pumping his tires as someone who “deserves” a job as an NBA Head Coach just because he belongs to a certain demographic like a certain other person has. It’s unfortunate that he ultimately will lose this battle against the franchise player, but when he does, it won’t be because he “can’t coach”.
@@Fakename70 You putting too much energy into this. McMillan is a good coach, but he’s never taken a team that far consistently. Atlanta had a surprise run two years ago, but they’ve failed to recapture that. Nobody ever said he was a bum, so you wasted a lot of energy oversimplifying my opinion.
@@nate8604
You’re actually half-right. Now that I re-read your comment, I realise that all you really did was spout a predictable sports cliche with very little thought behind it to make yourself appear knowledgeable about the situation.
@@Fakename70 you should replace that leaking tampon. You acting like a bitc h right now.
@@nate8604
Because I challenged your irrelevant and mindless comment? You typically respond like that whenever someone does that?
He was right lol
Nate McMillan wants teams to play great defense and play sound team offense.
How nice of Barnes to disrespect and dismiss him as some irrelevant Neanderthal.
I don't believe that..... Every year the team that wins... Wins with the basics...a big man.....a true point guard...a wing man than can score......a three point guy in the corner and defense.... All the fancy new stuff is for the regular season.... But I'm not a Nate fan either
They still gotta pay him
I listened to Nate talk on the radio when he was first coaching. I couldn't stand listening to him. It was like listening to a bot. Bland, unimaginative, a fount of clichés.
Deion is old school
Hawks are playing like traaaaaaaaash. Matt you smoked up all the smoke on this one
How this any different from what Stephen a has done to people over the years
I Totally Disagree With Matt Barnes Statement..
Bruh the current era ain't shit but 20 something teams trying to play like the damn warriors AND IT DOESN'T WORK!!!!! I miss the days when teams had their own separate play styles. IT'S ONLY ONE KLAY AND ONE STEPH AND THEY'RE IN THE BAY.
Maybe the players?
Throw coach Casey in there too. Can’t wait till the Pistons send him packing.
I thought we supposed to support Black Coaches. Lmao
He look like old g easy
Have you EVER seen a short from these guys dedicated to denigrating a white coach?
Trey gonna be the reason nate get fired
Somebody need to tell Thibs this information
He thinks he knows everything
Now that’s hatin. What does Matt Barnes have to do with ATL. He trying to get him fired for what. This is the definition of hatin.
Nobody is a fan of fake tough guy Matt Barnes
That why the NBA is watered down. You have kids running the NBA without adult supervision.
Disagree 100 percent
Steve Kerr old school coach n learned from 2 old school coaches. Pop n Phil. This is why it's really only 1-2 teams always winning now. Lebron with lue, n pat Riley protege n Kerr. All these "new school" coaches have zero rings. Explain that for me plz?
There’s nothing “old school” about Steve Kerr. He’s clearly a let-the-inmates-run-the-asylum guy.
WEll wat u saying matt burns barns ???!!! Wat is his style of coaching wat is old school coaching how's does he do it is coach karl (mates old coach) like that wat bout chunsey billups matter fact name the 5 coaches that have styles that need to be retire hell jus fire him n the other 4 m higher derrick fisher n his 4 friends to handle the teams that u r referring to or of sir?????
Do what everybody else doing apparently
1. Everyone here is overly focused on what is meant by "old school" . What you want is an old school _work ethic_ . But the old school ideology of taking on a dictatorship role as a leader (not being in tune with player and team morale, refusing to adapt to better understand where your players are coming from so that you can pull out the best in your players, putting your own needs ahead of your own players needs) is not going to work with smarter, more wary players that aren't just going to sacrifice for _every single coach that blows a whistle_ than in the past. Coaching is not a 'one size fits all' profession. You either start better understanding how you can get the best out of your players, or you'll be out on your ass looking for another job at another franchise.
2. A team's overall attitude is a reflection of its leadership, not the other way around. I can concede that Trae has been out of pocket lately, but that doesn't change the fact that the _entire team_ hasn't performed well. That means their leader (Coach Nate) is not doing his best to understand the teams needs, so that the team may be successful. Losing the locker room means you are detached from your team as a coach. Lazily proclaiming everything is a single players fault or that today's players are "soft" are *fucking stupid takes* . Have an actual informed opinion instead of parroting dumb shit like this.
3. You can still be an "old school coach" while still being able to adapt to the modern day NBA culture. Coach Nate is not doing the latter. Don't ever expect your team to perform with high efficiency if you as a coach aren't willing to do the same on your end. Figure it out or your gone, because Trae isn't going any fucking where period. And they don't do "franchise tags" for coaches.
Snowflake generation
@@mayankingrevisited8137 men who think their emotions don't exist are the biggest generation of sensitive snowflakes around. If your coaching style doesn't work, then you, the coach, are the problem. Cry about it, snowflake.
I read that whole thing.. and I'm glad I did. Impressive.
The stars want to be GM's.. We need tge old NBA back. These soft tissues we see today are jokes...
Don’t forget to repeat the same thing about Thibs? Dude’s been mediocre at best his whole tenure.
Wait, it's Nate's fault Trae is playing like crap? I don't get it.
Trae is a baby back ___
Hmm, sounfd like you are trying take money out another man's pocket. No specific criticism , his schemes or game management, just a general meaningless criticism.
I would like to see Barnes interview Pop about what he does to stay current. Pop is loved for generations. His players love playing for him.