3:52 I would add to this that using the "mildest deterrent possible" doesn't mean you have to take additional risk. If in you're in a situation where you have the choice between pepper spray and a milder but also less effective option you'd still be justified in using pepper spray. You don't have to put yourself at risk by using a milder deterrent. However: In the case of pepper spray it's usually not gonna be too problematic because there really aren't too many milder deterrents that have the same effectiveness. Also worth mentioning: If you chose the pepper spray even though there was a milder and equally as effective deterrent there's still section 33 of the criminal code under which you will not be held responsible for what you did if it happened out of fear or confusion.
The "mildest deterrent possible" can also mean that you can use an Apache attack helicopter if it is the only thing available at that moment. However, you still end up in prison because you have an Apache attack helicopter.... wich is illegal for some stupid reason. Joking aside: No one can ask you to defend yourself with your bare hands. Especially when the attacker is bigger and stronger. Everything that is not classified as a weapon (umbrellas, tools, household items such as glass bottles) is very suitable for self-defence... from a legal point of view. In court you can argue: "It was the only thing within reach." With legal weapons (knives, pepper spray, etc.) it is more difficult to prove proportionality. But if the attacker has a knife or something, that's not a problem either. And here, too, you can argue: "It was the only thing within reach." (Pepper spray in the glove compartment or handbag, for example) With illegal weapons or illegally carried weapons, it can be perfectly legal to defend yourself with them. Provided it is proportionate (this would be the case, for example, if the attacker has a firearm). It is therefore possible that you can get out of the matter without being punished. BUT you will receive a different penalty for illegal possession of a weapon. So only recommended in an absolute emergency (life or death situation). Well actually, I don't recommend it! In the end, all I can say is: defend yourselves! After all, you are not the attackers, but the victims. With a little common sense, you should be able to recognise which means are "proportionate".
@@espneindanke9172 The helicopter itself should be perfectly legal, it's the guns and missiles that usually come with it that aren't. OTOH if you can swing an Apache you can probably also tear your attacker apart with bare hands so you don't really need it.
@@espneindanke9172 Yes, very true. That can especially be seen in the famous "Hell's-Angels" case (BGH NStZ 2012, 272). However, I still have to make a tiny correction: Dogmatically speaking the proportionality (as in "Verhältnismäßigkeit") isn't relevant in German self-defense law. Only the suitability ("Geeignetheit") and the necessity ("Erforderlichkeit") are relevant. Only the criterion of necessity (but this time meaning "Gebotenheit", not "Erforderlichkeit") indirectly includes proportionality, but only in cases of blatant and extreme disproportionality.
@@phill234 Yes, I'll go along with that. But in the end, every situation has to be analysed individually. In everyday language, you can say: *"You don't kick people who are already lying on the ground."* It's not really much more complicated than that.
@@espneindanke9172 Right, though what many often do not consider is just walking / running away. Unless the threat is following you, this usually gets you out of danger. However some tough guys see this as "coward behaviour". Anyways, in an emergency almost everything is allowed, especially when your or someone else's life is in immediate danger. The same is true for the usage of otherwise illegal equipment. My dad used to sail on the ocean and he bought an illegal military radio, just in case. He never used it, but when you're alone on a boat and you have a life threatening situation you are allowed to use any tool available to call for help.
Mistake a Pepperspray for a breath freshener I don't even wanna know what that feels like. I have seen people responding to an indirect hit in a situation where they wanted to play tough.
It should be added that some cities, like Frankfurt am Main, have areas that forbid carrying knives with a blade length of more than 4 cm, as well as CS/CN gas during the evening and night (during the hours of 20:00 to 5:00 in Frankfurt‘s Bahnhofsviertel). These zones are marked with signs, usually „Waffenverbotszone“ plus some pictograms. Some of those cities (like Frankfurt) do allow pepper spray to be carried even in those zones and during the times stated on the signs, with the justification that it is often used as a defensive weapon by women.
It was _breath_ freshener, which is an even worse mistake to make. Squirting pepper spray directly into your throat is not recommended just before a date.
very well explained. it's practically the same in austria. by the way, to resurface an old meme question: that picture behind you, is it black-blue or white golden ;-) oh and by the way: animal repellents usually have a higher concentration than regular pepper sprays, more like police pepper spray in some jurisdictions. they deliver a gutter punch at 5 million scoville.
I have never experienced an assault on me in Germany, but in two years I saw three mass brawls under my windows, and two quite violent 1 vs 1 fights. Also, not necessary something violent, but the amount of weirdos who are wandering around and just scream as loud as they can is astonishing, happens around once a month. I am a little bit disappointed in this regard.
I live in a town centre above two bars, and there is loud behaviour and I have witnessed a couple arguing to a degree that I started shouting from the window and even called the police, but no physical violence ever.
@@frankhooper7871 I tried, but the local gun shop said they have no Tabasco , I have to go into a supermarket. Unfortunately, I live in Spain, and they don't sell guns or bear spray here in supermarkets like Walmart in the USA, not even with Jalapeño flavor.
There's a company in the US that packages super hot pepper products for people who like super hot food. On the hotness chart, jalapeno is near the low end of the list.
Some years ago the german border control confiscated the pepper spray which they found in my motorhome when I enterring from Switzerland - they told me I was not allowed to carry this stuff in Germany, so your video got me surprised a little. Maybe it was one of those non- vertified non-german sprays.
I believe the relevant laws came into effect in 2002 and amended in 2008. But if it's pepper spray and wasn't clearly marked as an animal repellent, then it would have been illegal to carry it.
IIRC, joergsparve (of the slingshot channel) making an interesting video of gun control in Germany, but I don't recall him talking about any sprays, only firearms.
Animal repellant spray is pretty much mandatory if you own a dog on the country side. You either get attacked by other people´s dogs, or you scare them off and then get attacked by their owner. Either way, an animal will be peppered and you want to make sure you are the one peppering.
That sounds pretty wild. What country is that in, as I live in a small rural town which I can only call dog central, and I do not hear of such cases of dog walker rage.
Also, don't forget that irritant sprays are _not_ meant for vulnerable spots like the eyes or anything with a mucous membrane It's irritant enough on the skin and can do some real damage
the amount of suggestive german specific bots is horrible This is some interesting information to know though, i believe the laws are similar here in the u.s., some states though you have to have an age check
It must be bought in a weapons shop & I have yet to muster up the courage to step inside one - we don't have weapons shops where I come from, so I've had no chance to get familiar with the etiquette in one of them. Es muss in einem Waffenladen gekauft werden und ich habe noch nicht den Mut zusammengenommen, darein zu treten - es gibt keine Waffenläden woraus ich stamme, also habe ich keine Gelegenheit gehabt, sich an die Etikette darin zu gewöhnen.
Correction on the last part of the translation. "... - es gibt keine Waffenläden *woher* ich stamme (besser: dort, wo ich herstamme), also habe ich keine Gelegenheit gehabt, *mich* an die Etikette darin zu gewöhnen." Man sagt zwar: Ich komme/stamme *aus* _der Stadt/dem Dorf/der Region._ Jedoch lautet die Frage nach der *Herkunft:* _Woher_ kommen/stammen Sie? Nicht: Woraus kommen Sie? Die Frage deutet mehr auf eine Richtung. _Woher?; herkommen_ Das ist ein bisschen verwirrend, aber so ist es nunmal. Die Antwort lautet jedoch bei der Herkunft nicht: "Ich komme heraus." (Diese Aussage macht man nur, um den Prozess des Heraustretens aus einem Haus/ aus einer Stadt/ aus einem Gefängnis zu beschreiben.), sondern: "Ich komme aus Berlin/Bayern/..." "Woraus" bezeichnet eher _aus etwas heraus kommen,_ z.B. einem Gefäß oder einem umfriedeten Gelände (Grundstück, Stadt). Woraus kam der Geist? Aus der Flasche oder Öllampe. (Engl.: Genie) Also das Fragewort _woraus_ wird eher im Zusammenhang mit Gefäßen benutzt, z.B.: Woraus trinkst du? "Woraus" wird auch im Sinne "aus was" verwendet, wenn man fragt: Woraus besteht ein Gegenstand/Material? - also die genaue Zusammensetzung betreffend. "mich" - ich -> mich; du -> dich; er/sie/es -> sich; wir -> uns; ihr -> euch; sie -> sich; allgemein: man/jemand -> sich "Etikette" würde man im Deutschen in diesem Satz wahrscheinlich eher nicht verwenden, da _Etikette_ ziemlich stark formalisiertes Verhalten beschreibt, während der Umgang (das Verhalten) in einem Waffengeschäft eher leger, ungezwungen ist. Man würde daher wohl eher formulieren: "Es gibt keine Waffenläden dort, wo ich herkomme/herstamme, deshalb weiß ich nicht, wie man sich in einem (Waffenladen) verhält." *Ich hoffe, meine Ausführungen sind einigermaßen verständlich. Ich bin kein Linguist/Germanist.
I don't think there's any particular etiquette: it's a shop like any other. You just go in, say you're looking for a spray for personal protection, and ask them what they can recommend.
@rewboss Whilst you're on the subject of weapons... why don't you make a video about the "Goedendag" (weapon from the Middle Ages). Literally translated, this weapon means "good day" or "guten Tag". I find the theories about its name very interesting.
In Canada, it is defacto illegal. Even bear spray is only legal if you're in the appropriate environment. Essentially, if you're walking around town with bear spray on your belt, it's illegal. If it's not reasonable to believe you sre either in a place where bear attacks are a reasonable danger, or on your way to a place where that is the case, then you're carrying a prohibited weapon.
Doesn't stop the Montreal Metro from getting fumigated on the regular by this stuff because a commuter got tired of some crazy aggressing them. I mean, we're not New York. But you notice more unhoused and substance abusers about, especially in certain stations downtown.
@@andrewweitzman4006 a dangerous but unfortunately necessary thing. You can't rely on the police to help you, and the government decided a long time ago that these people weren't worth helping, closing down all the asylums and public housing. Class consciousness is on the rise, again. They're only interested in keeping you comfortable enough to stop you from doing anything drastic, and the police are just their enforcers. Vote with your naked self interest in mind, and ignore all the culture war propaganda. Better yet, form your own local government and fight back against the Bank of Canada intentionally raising unemployment to keep the worker down, and the investor class' pile high. Unite to support the unemployed and keep the labor market in our favor. And stay safe out there.
Your best bet would be to head over to Reddit and post in r/german. I can't guarantee I'll answer your question, but somebody there should be able to help you.
Both CS and CN are tear gas. They are by definition a weapon. The two most commonly used tear gases are ω-chloroacetophenone, or CN, and o-chlorobenzylidenemalononitrile, or CS. CN is the principal component of the aerosol agent Mace and is widely used in riot control. It affects chiefly the eyes. CS is a stronger irritant that causes burning sensations in the respiratory tract and involuntary closing of the eyes, but its effects wear off more quickly, after only 5 to 10 minutes of breathing fresh air.
3:40 something a person living in the USA would probably not understand, where it is normal to be shot dead when you accidentally step onto someone's lawn...
Czechia is basically fine with pepper spray. No idea on the others. One question on Deutschland pepper spray law: What would the rule be for poijting it at someone without pulling the release switch? How much of a threat does it take for that to be legal? Now the real question can procede. If you are walking to a Battle of Bosworth Field reenactment and you find someone robbing a restaurant at knifepoint, can you use your sword while wearing that armour you have?
I think if merely showing the spray is enough to stop the attack, that would definitely be considered the mildest possible deterrent. If you threaten an innocent person with pepper spray, I'm pretty sure that would be treated in exactly the same way if you threatened them with, say, your fists. As for your Bosworth Field cosplayer, I'm sure that if he wasn't breaking any laws by carrying an offensive weapon in public, he'd be allowed to use whatever he had to hand to stop a crime in progress, so long as his response is proportionate. I'm not sure, though, that these people use real swords in their re-enactments.
@@rewboss Bosworth Field was a bit of a tongue in cheek. At least hopefully you don't accidentally kill King Richard and end up with Prince Blackadder.
The range of pepper spray is not limited, only for the irritant sprays. Personally I prefer the pepper spray over irritant sprays. It works better, especially on persons that are under the influence of drugs. And the irritants chloracetophenone (CN or tear gas) and 2-chlorobenzalmalononitrile (CS gas) are both suspected to cause cancer. The tests were only about that it does not inflict any permanent damage, not if you'll get cancer a few years later after being exposed to it.
Pepper spray from a foreign country, yeah. I know some young people here who bought theirs in the Czech Republic. They "had heard" that it's stronger. Well, first of all, it's NOT, that's an urban legend. And second, even if so, who cares? They'll never use it anyway. The only thing that is "stronger", in some sense, is the fine they can expect if caught with it. Alright, I'm not complaining. At least the era of their "strong" laser pointers seems to be over. These things were a nuisance and had spread faster and wider than a pandemic ever could. So pepper spray is their new hot thing. Well, at least they won't brag around with it. Or so I hope.
Naw. Not the same category at all. Axe/Lynx were 2000s (the Noughties) hype. Those sprays were supposed to have women (and some men) swooning just from the smell. To me it was reminiscent of 1960s/1970s Old Spice hype where the smell was just so "everywhere" that you you either became immune to it because you had smelled it so often you no longer noticed it, or you became actively aggressive because that damned cloying smell invaded your space indecently and overpowered everything else. However, I don't actually remember hearing or reading of a case where anyone was physically harmed by inhaling any of those aftershaves/body sprays.
@@Matt_The_HugenotIf anyone is interested why it's "offensive" its because historically and at Common Law, weapon was defined more broadly and included all arms including armour. An offensive weapon is what we typically call a weapon now and defensive weapons is what we now typically call armour. So whilst there is such a thing as a defensive weapon, it's not that it's used for self defence but that it's used to directly prevent harm (like a stab vest or ballistic shield).
@@PCDelorian Yes, I do HEMA (Historical European Martial Arts) and we have to be very aware of what we're carrying where and how, blunt practice swords are still weapons and can get us in trouble if seen in public. There are times when I've considered carrying a plastic buckler (small round shield) but then thought better of it, someone might think it was offensive as well as defensive.
@@Matt_The_Hugenot Its a matter of intent, which is ultimately the issue the prosecution always have to prove, if you have with the intent to use it offensively its an offensive weapon, if you do not have that intent then its defensive. This is made more complicated because instaneous arming means that if you use it offensively whilst being attacked so long as it wasn't your intent prior to the attack to use it as a weapon you can still plead self-defence. Obviously its hard to say, these are questions of fact for a jury and so no lawyer would be able to say 100% and I am not a fully qualified lawyer at any rate, but generally speaking so long as the intent is to stop someone attacking you by preventing the attack (by having something in the way) as opposed to overpowering them or rendering them unable to attack, its okay. This is not a commonly fought area of the law though and how the courts would respond to any given situation is hard to say.
@@PCDelorian I would rather avoid the risk of having it decided by courts. The amount of interpretation and lack of hard and fast rules is frustrating for many.
@@espneindanke9172 Ich werde mir das mal anschauen. Viele solcher Verkäufer betrachte ich ja als Waffennarren,mit denen ich nichts zu tun haben möchte; also eher eine unangenehme Szene. Trotzdem kann so ein Mensch professionell in seinem Beruf sein, was ihn jedoch nicht automatisch sympathischer machen muss.
Jörg Sprave is such a sad case. Started as a classic youtuber who got successful with creative and fun inventions he made with rubber with wood in his workshop. Now all he's doing is positing ads for the weapons his company buys from Chinese contractors that are specifically designed to use grey zones in the German law. And to push his sales, he has no problem to make panic videos in which he tells his viewers that Germany will be without gas in the winter and that they'll need to buy his weapons to fight off looters.
Regarding man-eating feral animals - zero, as they were thoroughly eradicated more than a century ago. We now have some wolves and bears passing through, but I've never heard about people (rather than livestock) being attacked by them. Dangerous dogs (or rather their owners) are more of a problem.
Pretty much zero. At the moment people are panicking about wolves, but they actually avoid humans as much as they can. The most dangerous animals you're likely to encounter are wild boar, but they'll leave you alone if you leave them alone. You're not likely to even see one, but if you do just stay calm, don't corner it or try to chase it, and never get between a female and her young.
I'm also trans, and am now definitely going to get a can for myself. I have no interest in getting violently attacked. I've already had a close call before.
I am not a lawyer either, but I think the judges in the Netherlands might be a bit less lenient on self defence. It has to be proportional. A defence like "I could not help myself, I was in panic" is not sufficient as anybody can say he was panicking at the time. The result counts. So if you were in a short incident and unharmed whilst the attacker is in hospital, you will have a tough time.
"if I hadn't defended myself, I'd be in a hospital and he would have been fine. He attacked first. I didn't have milder options, I haven't done martial arts in over a decade" Would that work?
Please do one on the Kleinwaffenschein and Schreckschusspistolen, particularly how many millions of licences women have obtained in recent years. That will blow peoples' minds here in the UK.
"particularly how many millions of licences women have obtained in recent years" Rounded to full millions? Zero millions. The number of valid "Kleiner Waffenschein" at the end of December 2023 was exactly 833,870 according to the Bundesverwaltungsamt. Up by about 50,000 from 781,186 at the end of 2022.
@@boghag Maybe he is a computer scientist and treated it like integer rounding. In this case, he is kind of correct because in most programming languages (actually every single one I have ever seen, but some weird people probably wrote one that is different), you usually just throw away the rest when you do integer division, so 5/2=2. If you now "round" to millions by just dividing by 1,000,000, you get: 82,646,321= 82 (million) 1,000,001 = 1 (million) and of course 833,870 = 0 (million) Ok, jokes aside, you actually just misunderstood what he wrote. What matters isn't the absolute number of licenses. What was being argued is, that millions of new licenses were obtained in recent years. Let's say "recent" means
@@boghag Sure. But the claim was "have obtained in recent years", so you have to subtract those licenses that are already older. At the end of 2017 there were 557,560 licenses on file, so the increase over the past 6 years was onlly about 326,000. And since that number is men and women combined the number for women alone is even smaller.
There was a Sheriff along the US border who told his deputies to be prepared to use other non-lethal means on Mexicans. He reasoned that, because of their diet, they may have an immunity to pepper-based sprays.
Well... Pepper spray has up to 2 million Scoville. Some "hot sauces" also have this much or even more. So the argument is not as absurd as you might think.
@@espneindanke9172 Well, this was the States so he was immediately called a racist until it came out that he was Mexican on both sides of his family tree. Thanks for your research though
i legit love the classic youtube vibe of your 4-7 min long videos. you just dont ever ramble, legend.
3:52 I would add to this that using the "mildest deterrent possible" doesn't mean you have to take additional risk. If in you're in a situation where you have the choice between pepper spray and a milder but also less effective option you'd still be justified in using pepper spray. You don't have to put yourself at risk by using a milder deterrent. However: In the case of pepper spray it's usually not gonna be too problematic because there really aren't too many milder deterrents that have the same effectiveness.
Also worth mentioning: If you chose the pepper spray even though there was a milder and equally as effective deterrent there's still section 33 of the criminal code under which you will not be held responsible for what you did if it happened out of fear or confusion.
The "mildest deterrent possible" can also mean that you can use an Apache attack helicopter if it is the only thing available at that moment. However, you still end up in prison because you have an Apache attack helicopter.... wich is illegal for some stupid reason.
Joking aside: No one can ask you to defend yourself with your bare hands. Especially when the attacker is bigger and stronger.
Everything that is not classified as a weapon (umbrellas, tools, household items such as glass bottles) is very suitable for self-defence... from a legal point of view.
In court you can argue: "It was the only thing within reach."
With legal weapons (knives, pepper spray, etc.) it is more difficult to prove proportionality. But if the attacker has a knife or something, that's not a problem either. And here, too, you can argue: "It was the only thing within reach."
(Pepper spray in the glove compartment or handbag, for example)
With illegal weapons or illegally carried weapons, it can be perfectly legal to defend yourself with them. Provided it is proportionate (this would be the case, for example, if the attacker has a firearm).
It is therefore possible that you can get out of the matter without being punished. BUT you will receive a different penalty for illegal possession of a weapon.
So only recommended in an absolute emergency (life or death situation). Well actually, I don't recommend it!
In the end, all I can say is: defend yourselves! After all, you are not the attackers, but the victims.
With a little common sense, you should be able to recognise which means are "proportionate".
@@espneindanke9172 The helicopter itself should be perfectly legal, it's the guns and missiles that usually come with it that aren't. OTOH if you can swing an Apache you can probably also tear your attacker apart with bare hands so you don't really need it.
@@espneindanke9172 Yes, very true. That can especially be seen in the famous "Hell's-Angels" case (BGH NStZ 2012, 272).
However, I still have to make a tiny correction:
Dogmatically speaking the proportionality (as in "Verhältnismäßigkeit") isn't relevant in German self-defense law. Only the suitability ("Geeignetheit") and the necessity ("Erforderlichkeit") are relevant.
Only the criterion of necessity (but this time meaning "Gebotenheit", not "Erforderlichkeit") indirectly includes proportionality, but only in cases of blatant and extreme disproportionality.
@@phill234
Yes, I'll go along with that.
But in the end, every situation has to be analysed individually.
In everyday language, you can say: *"You don't kick people who are already lying on the ground."*
It's not really much more complicated than that.
@@espneindanke9172 Right, though what many often do not consider is just walking / running away. Unless the threat is following you, this usually gets you out of danger. However some tough guys see this as "coward behaviour". Anyways, in an emergency almost everything is allowed, especially when your or someone else's life is in immediate danger. The same is true for the usage of otherwise illegal equipment. My dad used to sail on the ocean and he bought an illegal military radio, just in case. He never used it, but when you're alone on a boat and you have a life threatening situation you are allowed to use any tool available to call for help.
In The Netherlands, pepperspray is counted as a weapon and therefore illegal. Don't bring it with you if you visit The Netherlands.
Same for UK, Belgium, China, and Norway.
Wurde letztes Jahr an einer Bushaltestelle angegriffen, seitdem gehe ich nicht mehr ohne Pfefferspray aus dem Haus...
Mistake a Pepperspray for a breath freshener
I don't even wanna know what that feels like. I have seen people responding to an indirect hit in a situation where they wanted to play tough.
It should be added that some cities, like Frankfurt am Main, have areas that forbid carrying knives with a blade length of more than 4 cm, as well as CS/CN gas during the evening and night (during the hours of 20:00 to 5:00 in Frankfurt‘s Bahnhofsviertel). These zones are marked with signs, usually „Waffenverbotszone“ plus some pictograms. Some of those cities (like Frankfurt) do allow pepper spray to be carried even in those zones and during the times stated on the signs, with the justification that it is often used as a defensive weapon by women.
What a thumbnail! 🤣
North Macedonia shall prevail!
My first thought when I saw the thumbnail: "What does North Macedonia have to do with pepper spray?" 😂
Pardon me? Got carried away when he talked about "hitting s.o. with your stick" and "spray".... 🙈🙈🙈
I was like: My native country, let' s go! Makedonija napred!
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@@timowagner1329 why write in English? did you use google translate? lol
But I didn't see the asses ? Already gone ?
Did you notice the video is in English?@@michaelhawkins7389
@@michaelhawkins7389 Because it's good netiquette to use the language, that the video is in.
"...for a can of air freshener" you have no clue how fast and how strong I cringed just after hearing that
It was _breath_ freshener, which is an even worse mistake to make. Squirting pepper spray directly into your throat is not recommended just before a date.
@@rewboss oh...oh no
very well explained. it's practically the same in austria.
by the way, to resurface an old meme question: that picture behind you, is it black-blue or white golden ;-)
oh and by the way: animal repellents usually have a higher concentration than regular pepper sprays, more like police pepper spray in some jurisdictions. they deliver a gutter punch at 5 million scoville.
Love your content rewboss...please keep making more. I learn so much from you 😊
I have never experienced an assault on me in Germany, but in two years I saw three mass brawls under my windows, and two quite violent 1 vs 1 fights. Also, not necessary something violent, but the amount of weirdos who are wandering around and just scream as loud as they can is astonishing, happens around once a month. I am a little bit disappointed in this regard.
So you live in a city near some bars? That sounds like typical drunk people behavior.
I live in a town centre above two bars, and there is loud behaviour and I have witnessed a couple arguing to a degree that I started shouting from the window and even called the police, but no physical violence ever.
Can you use pepper spray with steaks? Can you recommend some with Jalapeño flavor?
They come as a liquid. I‘d suggest Tabasco
@@BayerwaldlerWhoosh!
@@frankhooper7871 I tried, but the local gun shop said they have no Tabasco , I have to go into a supermarket. Unfortunately, I live in Spain, and they don't sell guns or bear spray here in supermarkets like Walmart in the USA, not even with Jalapeño flavor.
There's a company in the US that packages super hot pepper products for people who like super hot food.
On the hotness chart, jalapeno is near the low end of the list.
Pepper sprays are flavorless. You may have some luck with the pepperworld online shop.
Am I the only one who understood "steak" instead of "stick"?
I did as well. Was really wondering, where he was going with that one, for a minute 😅
Well, hitting someone with your steak is illegal as well. If the steak is frozen it may even count as a dangerous item if used as a weapon.
Some years ago the german border control confiscated the pepper spray which they found in my motorhome when I enterring from Switzerland - they told me I was not allowed to carry this stuff in Germany, so your video got me surprised a little. Maybe it was one of those non- vertified non-german sprays.
I believe the relevant laws came into effect in 2002 and amended in 2008. But if it's pepper spray and wasn't clearly marked as an animal repellent, then it would have been illegal to carry it.
IIRC, joergsparve (of the slingshot channel) making an interesting video of gun control in Germany, but I don't recall him talking about any sprays, only firearms.
He did made a video about all weapons for self-defence: "Self Defence in Germany: OK or No-No?"
Including pepper-spray and cs-gas.
Animal repellant spray is pretty much mandatory if you own a dog on the country side. You either get attacked by other people´s dogs, or you scare them off and then get attacked by their owner. Either way, an animal will be peppered and you want to make sure you are the one peppering.
That sounds pretty wild. What country is that in, as I live in a small rural town which I can only call dog central, and I do not hear of such cases of dog walker rage.
Can I use it for cooking? Have they thought about making a salt spray?
2:26 "There is nothing illegal about having a stick" my kidnergarten teacher disagrees
can one carry it on public transport also in gemany or is it prohibited? Not in terms of using it, but having it in bag.
mitführen should not be a problem yeah, as long as you can't just hold it in ur hand
Also, don't forget that irritant sprays are _not_ meant for vulnerable spots like the eyes or anything with a mucous membrane
It's irritant enough on the skin and can do some real damage
the amount of suggestive german specific bots is horrible
This is some interesting information to know though, i believe the laws are similar here in the u.s., some states though you have to have an age check
It must be bought in a weapons shop & I have yet to muster up the courage to step inside one - we don't have weapons shops where I come from, so I've had no chance to get familiar with the etiquette in one of them.
Es muss in einem Waffenladen gekauft werden und ich habe noch nicht den Mut zusammengenommen, darein zu treten - es gibt keine Waffenläden woraus ich stamme, also habe ich keine Gelegenheit gehabt, sich an die Etikette darin zu gewöhnen.
Correction on the last part of the translation.
"... - es gibt keine Waffenläden *woher* ich stamme (besser: dort, wo ich herstamme), also habe ich keine Gelegenheit gehabt, *mich* an die Etikette darin zu gewöhnen."
Man sagt zwar: Ich komme/stamme *aus* _der Stadt/dem Dorf/der Region._
Jedoch lautet die Frage nach der *Herkunft:* _Woher_ kommen/stammen Sie? Nicht: Woraus kommen Sie?
Die Frage deutet mehr auf eine Richtung. _Woher?; herkommen_ Das ist ein bisschen verwirrend, aber so ist es nunmal.
Die Antwort lautet jedoch bei der Herkunft nicht: "Ich komme heraus." (Diese Aussage macht man nur, um den Prozess des Heraustretens aus einem Haus/ aus einer Stadt/ aus einem Gefängnis zu beschreiben.), sondern: "Ich komme aus Berlin/Bayern/..."
"Woraus" bezeichnet eher _aus etwas heraus kommen,_ z.B. einem Gefäß oder einem umfriedeten Gelände (Grundstück, Stadt).
Woraus kam der Geist? Aus der Flasche oder Öllampe. (Engl.: Genie)
Also das Fragewort _woraus_ wird eher im Zusammenhang mit Gefäßen benutzt, z.B.: Woraus trinkst du?
"Woraus" wird auch im Sinne "aus was" verwendet, wenn man fragt: Woraus besteht ein Gegenstand/Material? - also die genaue Zusammensetzung betreffend.
"mich" - ich -> mich; du -> dich; er/sie/es -> sich; wir -> uns; ihr -> euch; sie -> sich; allgemein: man/jemand -> sich
"Etikette" würde man im Deutschen in diesem Satz wahrscheinlich eher nicht verwenden, da _Etikette_ ziemlich stark formalisiertes Verhalten beschreibt, während der Umgang (das Verhalten) in einem Waffengeschäft eher leger, ungezwungen ist.
Man würde daher wohl eher formulieren: "Es gibt keine Waffenläden dort, wo ich herkomme/herstamme, deshalb weiß ich nicht, wie man sich in einem (Waffenladen) verhält."
*Ich hoffe, meine Ausführungen sind einigermaßen verständlich. Ich bin kein Linguist/Germanist.
I don't think there's any particular etiquette: it's a shop like any other. You just go in, say you're looking for a spray for personal protection, and ask them what they can recommend.
@@rewboss : That means I must wait until I'm a bit further along in my German course.
@rewboss
Whilst you're on the subject of weapons... why don't you make a video about the "Goedendag" (weapon from the Middle Ages).
Literally translated, this weapon means "good day" or "guten Tag".
I find the theories about its name very interesting.
That was a Flemish weapon, not German.
In Canada, it is defacto illegal. Even bear spray is only legal if you're in the appropriate environment. Essentially, if you're walking around town with bear spray on your belt, it's illegal. If it's not reasonable to believe you sre either in a place where bear attacks are a reasonable danger, or on your way to a place where that is the case, then you're carrying a prohibited weapon.
Doesn't stop the Montreal Metro from getting fumigated on the regular by this stuff because a commuter got tired of some crazy aggressing them. I mean, we're not New York. But you notice more unhoused and substance abusers about, especially in certain stations downtown.
@@andrewweitzman4006 a dangerous but unfortunately necessary thing. You can't rely on the police to help you, and the government decided a long time ago that these people weren't worth helping, closing down all the asylums and public housing. Class consciousness is on the rise, again. They're only interested in keeping you comfortable enough to stop you from doing anything drastic, and the police are just their enforcers. Vote with your naked self interest in mind, and ignore all the culture war propaganda. Better yet, form your own local government and fight back against the Bank of Canada intentionally raising unemployment to keep the worker down, and the investor class' pile high. Unite to support the unemployed and keep the labor market in our favor. And stay safe out there.
"... that doesn't mean you are free to hit anyone you like with a stick..."
What about anyone you dislike?
Aloha. I only use stakes as a Vampire repellant. I like my Steak only medium. 😊
I thought it was about the regulation on how the police must (or not) use pepper spray 😅 It was a great video anyway!!!
In the Netherlands pepper spray is forbidden.
How do I ask you a question about learning german. This is not a standard question and I think you’re definitely the right person to ask….
Your best bet would be to head over to Reddit and post in r/german. I can't guarantee I'll answer your question, but somebody there should be able to help you.
Both CS and CN are tear gas. They are by definition a weapon. The two most commonly used tear gases are ω-chloroacetophenone, or CN, and o-chlorobenzylidenemalononitrile, or CS. CN is the principal component of the aerosol agent Mace and is widely used in riot control. It affects chiefly the eyes. CS is a stronger irritant that causes burning sensations in the respiratory tract and involuntary closing of the eyes, but its effects wear off more quickly, after only 5 to 10 minutes of breathing fresh air.
3:40 something a person living in the USA would probably not understand, where it is normal to be shot dead when you accidentally step onto someone's lawn...
Eigentlich verstehen wir ganz einfach, danke. Sowas ist nicht normal.
Czechia is basically fine with pepper spray. No idea on the others. One question on Deutschland pepper spray law: What would the rule be for poijting it at someone without pulling the release switch? How much of a threat does it take for that to be legal?
Now the real question can procede. If you are walking to a Battle of Bosworth Field reenactment and you find someone robbing a restaurant at knifepoint, can you use your sword while wearing that armour you have?
I think if merely showing the spray is enough to stop the attack, that would definitely be considered the mildest possible deterrent. If you threaten an innocent person with pepper spray, I'm pretty sure that would be treated in exactly the same way if you threatened them with, say, your fists.
As for your Bosworth Field cosplayer, I'm sure that if he wasn't breaking any laws by carrying an offensive weapon in public, he'd be allowed to use whatever he had to hand to stop a crime in progress, so long as his response is proportionate. I'm not sure, though, that these people use real swords in their re-enactments.
@@rewboss Bosworth Field was a bit of a tongue in cheek. At least hopefully you don't accidentally kill King Richard and end up with Prince Blackadder.
The range of pepper spray is not limited, only for the irritant sprays. Personally I prefer the pepper spray over irritant sprays. It works better, especially on persons that are under the influence of drugs. And the irritants chloracetophenone (CN or tear gas) and 2-chlorobenzalmalononitrile (CS gas) are both suspected to cause cancer. The tests were only about that it does not inflict any permanent damage, not if you'll get cancer a few years later after being exposed to it.
Interesting video - I’m not sure that pepper spray is legal here in the uk…
That's correct: pepper spray is definitely illegal in the UK.
Pepper spray from a foreign country, yeah. I know some young people here who bought theirs in the Czech Republic. They "had heard" that it's stronger. Well, first of all, it's NOT, that's an urban legend. And second, even if so, who cares? They'll never use it anyway. The only thing that is "stronger", in some sense, is the fine they can expect if caught with it.
Alright, I'm not complaining. At least the era of their "strong" laser pointers seems to be over. These things were a nuisance and had spread faster and wider than a pandemic ever could. So pepper spray is their new hot thing. Well, at least they won't brag around with it. Or so I hope.
And Axe/Lynx body spray for young men particularly susceptible to advertising? 😮
Naw. Not the same category at all. Axe/Lynx were 2000s (the Noughties) hype. Those sprays were supposed to have women (and some men) swooning just from the smell. To me it was reminiscent of 1960s/1970s Old Spice hype where the smell was just so "everywhere" that you you either became immune to it because you had smelled it so often you no longer noticed it, or you became actively aggressive because that damned cloying smell invaded your space indecently and overpowered everything else.
However, I don't actually remember hearing or reading of a case where anyone was physically harmed by inhaling any of those aftershaves/body sprays.
so much talk about hitting people with sticks, now I've got the bad lipreading stick song stuck in my head, thanks 😂
But his stick was better than bacon...
Which song?
@@paolagrando5079 it's a star wars parody by bad lip reading. And if I remember correctly, it's simply called "My Stick"
I had to check as I wasn't sure: pepper spray _is_ illegal in the UK (thought so)
Yep, anything intended to be a self defence weapon is still a weapon and all weapons are offensive*.
* _subject to exclusions, I know_
@@Matt_The_HugenotIf anyone is interested why it's "offensive" its because historically and at Common Law, weapon was defined more broadly and included all arms including armour. An offensive weapon is what we typically call a weapon now and defensive weapons is what we now typically call armour. So whilst there is such a thing as a defensive weapon, it's not that it's used for self defence but that it's used to directly prevent harm (like a stab vest or ballistic shield).
@@PCDelorian Yes, I do HEMA (Historical European Martial Arts) and we have to be very aware of what we're carrying where and how, blunt practice swords are still weapons and can get us in trouble if seen in public. There are times when I've considered carrying a plastic buckler (small round shield) but then thought better of it, someone might think it was offensive as well as defensive.
@@Matt_The_Hugenot Its a matter of intent, which is ultimately the issue the prosecution always have to prove, if you have with the intent to use it offensively its an offensive weapon, if you do not have that intent then its defensive. This is made more complicated because instaneous arming means that if you use it offensively whilst being attacked so long as it wasn't your intent prior to the attack to use it as a weapon you can still plead self-defence.
Obviously its hard to say, these are questions of fact for a jury and so no lawyer would be able to say 100% and I am not a fully qualified lawyer at any rate, but generally speaking so long as the intent is to stop someone attacking you by preventing the attack (by having something in the way) as opposed to overpowering them or rendering them unable to attack, its okay. This is not a commonly fought area of the law though and how the courts would respond to any given situation is hard to say.
@@PCDelorian I would rather avoid the risk of having it decided by courts. The amount of interpretation and lack of hard and fast rules is frustrating for many.
First time I hear a british say Pepper spray, idk why I thought of Peppa Pig but spray and not pig, lol
May I recommend the video "Self Defence in Germany: OK or No-No?" by Jörg Sprave?
prolly better not recommend that since that guy is a tool and also not a lawyer^^
@@TheTH-camUser69
He is a professional weapons dealer.
For business reasons alone, he has to deal with such laws.
And his business is going well ;)
@@espneindanke9172
Ich werde mir das mal anschauen. Viele solcher Verkäufer betrachte ich ja als Waffennarren,mit denen ich nichts zu tun haben möchte; also eher eine unangenehme Szene.
Trotzdem kann so ein Mensch professionell in seinem Beruf sein, was ihn jedoch nicht automatisch sympathischer machen muss.
Jörg Sprave is such a sad case. Started as a classic youtuber who got successful with creative and fun inventions he made with rubber with wood in his workshop.
Now all he's doing is positing ads for the weapons his company buys from Chinese contractors that are specifically designed to use grey zones in the German law. And to push his sales, he has no problem to make panic videos in which he tells his viewers that Germany will be without gas in the winter and that they'll need to buy his weapons to fight off looters.
I was expecting a few people to of used the spray as deodorant not mouthwash!
I think the size of a typical canister for personal use is more similar to that of a breath freshener spray than a deodorant spray.
Dear God, Germany was once the Fatherland and now it's the Nanny-land.
Time to abuse this comment section to ask the following :
Does anyone know the regulations for ownling and carrying halberds and poleaxes in germany ?
oleoresin capsicum
its only used for cooking
If you need legal advice, please ask an Expat. :-)
The reach of under 2m is a myth. There is no such regulation in any legal norm.
That's why I always carry a small can of hair spray with me. Maybe not as effective but definitely not as legally dubious!
2:18 if you suffer from asthma you should consider whether your criminal career was a right choice for you
I'm heading over to Germany in a couple of months. What are the odds I'll need pepper spray just in case some wild animals attack me?
Realistically, zero.
close to zero
Well, if you aren't planning to spend a few months in a forest trying your hardest to aggravate wild animals, the chances are very low.
Regarding man-eating feral animals - zero, as they were thoroughly eradicated more than a century ago. We now have some wolves and bears passing through, but I've never heard about people (rather than livestock) being attacked by them. Dangerous dogs (or rather their owners) are more of a problem.
Pretty much zero. At the moment people are panicking about wolves, but they actually avoid humans as much as they can.
The most dangerous animals you're likely to encounter are wild boar, but they'll leave you alone if you leave them alone. You're not likely to even see one, but if you do just stay calm, don't corner it or try to chase it, and never get between a female and her young.
Can you use pepper spray as deodorant?
It hurts when it touches your skin.
You can try ...
If you do, you will be past caring about your body odour for a while.
I have had a situation where it was useful. Then again, I am a trans girl, and we just get attacked more often.
I'm also trans, and am now definitely going to get a can for myself. I have no interest in getting violently attacked. I've already had a close call before.
I give up.
I love the North Macedonian thumbnail 😂
I'm sure that's not what he thought doing it 😸
Yes! Glory to the Yugoslavic Republic!
Who else but Andrew to have me watching a video about pepper spray in Germany?
Glory to North Macedonia!
I am not a lawyer either, but I think the judges in the Netherlands might be a bit less lenient on self defence. It has to be proportional. A defence like "I could not help myself, I was in panic" is not sufficient as anybody can say he was panicking at the time. The result counts. So if you were in a short incident and unharmed whilst the attacker is in hospital, you will have a tough time.
"if I hadn't defended myself, I'd be in a hospital and he would have been fine. He attacked first. I didn't have milder options, I haven't done martial arts in over a decade"
Would that work?
You have the Macedonian flag on your first second of your video😅
It's only for "no__twear" 😉
Please do one on the Kleinwaffenschein and Schreckschusspistolen, particularly how many millions of licences women have obtained in recent years. That will blow peoples' minds here in the UK.
"particularly how many millions of licences women have obtained in recent years" Rounded to full millions? Zero millions. The number of valid "Kleiner Waffenschein" at the end of December 2023 was exactly 833,870 according to the Bundesverwaltungsamt. Up by about 50,000 from 781,186 at the end of 2022.
@@blahfasel2000 Rounding 883870 to the nearest million results in 1 million, not zero.
@@boghag Maybe he is a computer scientist and treated it like integer rounding. In this case, he is kind of correct because in most programming languages (actually every single one I have ever seen, but some weird people probably wrote one that is different), you usually just throw away the rest when you do integer division, so 5/2=2. If you now "round" to millions by just dividing by 1,000,000, you get: 82,646,321= 82 (million) 1,000,001 = 1 (million) and of course 833,870 = 0 (million)
Ok, jokes aside, you actually just misunderstood what he wrote. What matters isn't the absolute number of licenses. What was being argued is, that millions of new licenses were obtained in recent years. Let's say "recent" means
@@boghag Sure. But the claim was "have obtained in recent years", so you have to subtract those licenses that are already older. At the end of 2017 there were 557,560 licenses on file, so the increase over the past 6 years was onlly about 326,000. And since that number is men and women combined the number for women alone is even smaller.
There was a Sheriff along the US border who told his deputies to be prepared to use other non-lethal means on Mexicans. He reasoned that, because of their diet, they may have an immunity to pepper-based sprays.
sounds like a typical shite-for-brains US Sheriff
Well... Pepper spray has up to 2 million Scoville.
Some "hot sauces" also have this much or even more.
So the argument is not as absurd as you might think.
@@espneindanke9172 Well, this was the States so he was immediately called a racist until it came out that he was Mexican on both sides of his family tree. Thanks for your research though
@@stopvoris8635 did everyone that day stand up and clap as the Sheriff walked by?
Your comment made me roll my eyes so hard, I saw my cerebellum…
Everything is legal for self defence... but!