"That would be the last time in Giants history that a play would happen involving a football touching a helmet." ...David Tyree has just entered the chat...
You dont realize how drastically the game of football has changed over the last 20 years or so until you watch videos of these games from the 70s and 80s. I remember tons of regular season games, especially division games, where neither team topped 10 points. I remember when you could see Vegas lines with the over under in the high 30s. The Oilers Run and Gun The Bufflao K Gun The West Coast Offense were so special
I’m more of a hockey fan than a football fan but your videos are so good and addictive that I don’t care. I can’t stop watching. Keep up the fantastic work! If I had one request for a video topic, it would be an explanation as to why NY Jets drafting is so traditionally bad. I’ve seen a few videos that are just montages of draft picks, as if those alone are self-explanatory.
I've seen some awful 2-minute drills, but this one is mind-boggling. The coaches running the FG team out there and leaving the Chargers with too many men on the field meant that even if the Chargers got a TD, it was gonna be negated by a penalty that came with a 10-second runoff. What a CF that was!
And the Chargers having too many men on the field blunder is magnified considering that the NFL was more strictly enforcing the 10 second runoff for an offensive penalty in the last two minutes of a half following the seconds not being runoff following a delay of game penalty for an illegal snap by the Chicago Bears just before halftime of Super Bowl XX (the officials had not put the ball formally in play before Jim McMahon threw the ball out of bounds; and there was also a fight between several Bears and New England Patriots players after safety Fred Marion hit McMahon, with the Bears feeling that Marion's hit was excessive, leading to the scuffle), resulting in the Bears getting a field goal before the first half ended
Great video, but here's a small addition. Spiking the ball to stop the clock wasn't a thing yet, not until the 1990s. Fouts would've had to throw it out of bounds.
Watching this now and came here to comment this, thanks for bringing it up. For the NFL the rule change was actually put into effect the next season, 1987. Not sure when it came along in college but it was not immediate, as I remember watching the Auburn/Tennessee game from 87 and that game ended while the ball was in the air headed out of bounds on the attempt to stop the clock.
I know this comment is 3 years old, but I wanted to point out that it would have been "illegal" as intentional grounding. However, a few teams prior to the 90s circumvented this by having an eligible receiver near them when they spiked it. It wasn't called a "spike" back then, but it was a legal move.
@@Jeremy_theGent It was actually before my time too (I was born in 1993), but JG9 has piqued my interest in looking up certain obscure things about NFL history.
I always enjoyed the analysis of Bob Trumpy: smart, direct, and not afraid to shake things up. But yeah, the Chargers really blew it here, and Buford McGee really should've gone out of bounds to save that timeout. They can possibly take consolation in the fact that they're not the last team to blunder like this, and it was the end of the half, not the game, so they had an opportunity to set things right in the second half (6 turnovers in 6 possessions was not the right answer to that; then again that 1986 Giants defense was very good).
He and Enberg were my favorite pair (outside Summerall/Madden) during the early 90s. A shame they didn't stay together longer. My favorite NFL call may always be the infamous Leon Lett call on Thanksgiving.
That was a bizarro period: Merlin Olsen never looked right at CBS (in the booth obviously); Walsh had his moments (of course they mostly hilarious faux pas: I certainly admire his running Dick) until he went back to Stanford. Enberg and Trumpy had a good run, even did a game on Westwood One together years later
@@mgb4692 I liked what Enberg said about Walsh when I read a deal in which he discussed his broadcasting partners (I think it was in the Super Bowl 27 game program): he found Walsh real warm & engaging, but before the telecast, Walsh would sort of shut down a little and get into coach-mode. Like a lot of the greats, Walsh was pretty consumed with the game. Trumpy was my favorite: like a lot of former Bengals (Mike Reid, Anthony Munoz, Boomer Esiason, etc.), I find him to be very intelligent and lays things out straight. I could've dug a 20 year run with Trumpy on NBC:-).
I had always heard Walsh was still looking for a coaching job at the time, so he didn't want to be overly critical in his analysis. I think him and Enberg did Notre Dame games as well. Or maybe I'm thinking of the year Bill Parcells was in the booth for NBC, I think that was 1992?
9:10-the play that Trumpy referred to when he chided Buford McGee for not getting out of bounds to stop the clock. During the play Trumpy even said “get out of bounds” before McGee got tackled
Have a feeling it was Fouts personally who aggressively screwed the pooch on that drill, out of frustration. Coryell said it would never happen again- maybe that's what he meant. Fouts had a temper and called the snap knowing the wrong personnel was on field. Buford McGee got a lot of wrong blame.
First, Herm Edwards looked at this and thought "that's how I want to run a two minute offense." Second, if only the Chargers had Captain Checkdown Trent Edwards for this one. Lol
"That would be the last time in Giants history that a play would ever happen involving a football touching a helmet"
I choose to live in this timeline
😂😂😂😂
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What sarcasm by him.
"That would be the last time in Giants history that a play would happen involving a football touching a helmet."
...David Tyree has just entered the chat...
As a Patriot fan, I wish you were stating a fact
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David Tyree: Hold my beer
You dont realize how drastically the game of football has changed over the last 20 years or so until you watch videos of these games from the 70s and 80s.
I remember tons of regular season games, especially division games, where neither team topped 10 points.
I remember when you could see Vegas lines with the over under in the high 30s.
The Oilers Run and Gun
The Bufflao K Gun
The West Coast Offense were so special
I’m more of a hockey fan than a football fan but your videos are so good and addictive that I don’t care. I can’t stop watching. Keep up the fantastic work!
If I had one request for a video topic, it would be an explanation as to why NY Jets drafting is so traditionally bad. I’ve seen a few videos that are just montages of draft picks, as if those alone are self-explanatory.
Andy Reid learned clock management watching this one
I just shuddered from the flashbacks
Dumb Decisions. AKA, Let's All Laugh at the Chargers.
At 7:40 it wasn't a "giant mistake". It was a "chargers mistake". ;o). Thank you..I'll be here all night
I've seen some awful 2-minute drills, but this one is mind-boggling. The coaches running the FG team out there and leaving the Chargers with too many men on the field meant that even if the Chargers got a TD, it was gonna be negated by a penalty that came with a 10-second runoff. What a CF that was!
@@tspawn35 That would've been a lot better than what they ended up doing.
And the Chargers having too many men on the field blunder is magnified considering that the NFL was more strictly enforcing the 10 second runoff for an offensive penalty in the last two minutes of a half following the seconds not being runoff following a delay of game penalty for an illegal snap by the Chicago Bears just before halftime of Super Bowl XX (the officials had not put the ball formally in play before Jim McMahon threw the ball out of bounds; and there was also a fight between several Bears and New England Patriots players after safety Fred Marion hit McMahon, with the Bears feeling that Marion's hit was excessive, leading to the scuffle), resulting in the Bears getting a field goal before the first half ended
Man, my team is *really* bad at making smart decisions.
Great video, but here's a small addition. Spiking the ball to stop the clock wasn't a thing yet, not until the 1990s. Fouts would've had to throw it out of bounds.
I didn't think spiking the ball rule existed yet but I wasn't sure. Thanks for clarifying that.
Watching this now and came here to comment this, thanks for bringing it up. For the NFL the rule change was actually put into effect the next season, 1987. Not sure when it came along in college but it was not immediate, as I remember watching the Auburn/Tennessee game from 87 and that game ended while the ball was in the air headed out of bounds on the attempt to stop the clock.
I know this comment is 3 years old, but I wanted to point out that it would have been "illegal" as intentional grounding. However, a few teams prior to the 90s circumvented this by having an eligible receiver near them when they spiked it. It wasn't called a "spike" back then, but it was a legal move.
@@LegendaryDorkKnight I didn't know that. This game was before my time, I just know what I've read about the NFL's history.
@@Jeremy_theGent It was actually before my time too (I was born in 1993), but JG9 has piqued my interest in looking up certain obscure things about NFL history.
That announcer really wants us to know that Buford McGee fucked up
I always enjoyed the analysis of Bob Trumpy: smart, direct, and not afraid to shake things up. But yeah, the Chargers really blew it here, and Buford McGee really should've gone out of bounds to save that timeout. They can possibly take consolation in the fact that they're not the last team to blunder like this, and it was the end of the half, not the game, so they had an opportunity to set things right in the second half (6 turnovers in 6 possessions was not the right answer to that; then again that 1986 Giants defense was very good).
He and Enberg were my favorite pair (outside Summerall/Madden) during the early 90s. A shame they didn't stay together longer.
My favorite NFL call may always be the infamous Leon Lett call on Thanksgiving.
That was a bizarro period: Merlin Olsen never looked right at CBS (in the booth obviously); Walsh had his moments (of course they mostly hilarious faux pas: I certainly admire his running Dick) until he went back to Stanford. Enberg and Trumpy had a good run, even did a game on Westwood One together years later
@@mgb4692 I liked what Enberg said about Walsh when I read a deal in which he discussed his broadcasting partners (I think it was in the Super Bowl 27 game program): he found Walsh real warm & engaging, but before the telecast, Walsh would sort of shut down a little and get into coach-mode. Like a lot of the greats, Walsh was pretty consumed with the game.
Trumpy was my favorite: like a lot of former Bengals (Mike Reid, Anthony Munoz, Boomer Esiason, etc.), I find him to be very intelligent and lays things out straight. I could've dug a 20 year run with Trumpy on NBC:-).
I was just gonna say it seems like he explained things in a way a person who never even watched football could understand.
I had always heard Walsh was still looking for a coaching job at the time, so he didn't want to be overly critical in his analysis. I think him and Enberg did Notre Dame games as well. Or maybe I'm thinking of the year Bill Parcells was in the booth for NBC, I think that was 1992?
During that era you couldn't just spike the ball... the only way to kill the clock was throw a 9 route out of bounds
9:10-the play that Trumpy referred to when he chided Buford McGee for not getting out of bounds to stop the clock. During the play Trumpy even said “get out of bounds” before McGee got tackled
I am absolutely gobsmacked that the worst 2 minute offense ever involves new york without somehow involving the Jest.
Fouts had some serious happy feet this game
LT alone was enough to give any QB happy feet
I swear when he said "buferr Mcgee he lives at 123 buffet STREET GET HIM"
Btw thank you for liking my comment o felt like my comment wouldn't make sine
The commentators are 100% right. Buford McGee should have went out of bounds... THAT is the dumb decision.
That was Bob Trumpy who said that. Don Criqui was doing PBP. Not quite "It's Leon Lett...NOOOOOOOOOOOO!" but solid analysis.
Have a feeling it was Fouts personally who aggressively screwed the pooch on that drill, out of frustration. Coryell said it would never happen again- maybe that's what he meant. Fouts had a temper and called the snap knowing the wrong personnel was on field. Buford McGee got a lot of wrong blame.
43 on the giants should have been called for unsportsmanlike conduct
Game happened on my 18th birthday...some kind of game for it.
A spike was irrelevant once 13 men were on the field with the clock running and less than :10.
@Mr. MERCEDES 95 I was commenting on the suggestion in the video.
I dont think spiking the ball was a legal play in 1986. I think it became a legal play in 1988.
You could spike it but it had to be at the feet of an eligible receiver.
Which I bet Fouts tried to do in end zone....
87
The Chargers and bad clock management...
Why does that sound familiar?
Al Saunders tried to instill a 700 page playbook with the Redskins. Once a turkey always a turkey.
Still not as bad as the Rams against the Bears in the '85 NFCCG... LA ran 3 plays in 64 seconds.
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the new york giant player center screen standing on the two yard line called timout
Even back then, Belichick was shutting down high powered offenses. Air Coryell was one of the best.
I believe that in 1986 the quarterback spike was illlegal.
Ralph Beanerski should be hall fame.
First, Herm Edwards looked at this and thought "that's how I want to run a two minute offense." Second, if only the Chargers had Captain Checkdown Trent Edwards for this one. Lol
Herm Edwards had his own moment at Giants Stadium benefitting from a "dumb decision" in 1978.
@@andrewpadaetz5549 true. Just that he wasn't a good game manager as head coach.
1:26 your kidding right with what u said there
Shouldn't that season opener with Denver be worst? (2022)
This video came out 2 1/2 years ago. I’ve got you covered, though: th-cam.com/video/79sThBrGCTE/w-d-xo.html
@@OfficialJaguarGator9 Oh. Sorry I was naive. Thanks for replying though.
The end of don coryell was coming
3 short passes 1 long one that was good
#PoorClockTimeManagement?