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You'll never see this comment 10,000 comments in, but if you see this and you haven't tried it, run your phone in safe mode for a while. That runs the phone with firmware only, and if it fixes your issue, you can confirm it's an app that's doing it.
Nice. Hope he sees your comment. +Thumbs up
If an app is draining the battery it should appear on the battery stats, the only way it can be hidden in there is if it's a root app specifically programed to do that (and I don't think he has a rooted phone) or if it's a system app (wich will run even in safe mode).
TL:DR Tecnically useless sugestion
great idea but what if it was a firmware update?
I have an app that told me that com.google.android.gms.persistent was eating a lot of my battery (or more specifically CPU), but with Android 8.0 the ability for normal apps to see CPU usage has been blocked and now the most I can see is that "System" typically takes the majority of my CPU even when I'm not using any apps all day.
Now granted, it wasn't taking a LOT of CPU, it was something like 1 minute of CPU per hour, but this is still enough that it was draining my battery before the end of the day, for basically not using my phone at all!
My S7 was decent till I updated to oreo... then android system was sucking juice even on idle: phone getting hot and battery not making it through even the majority of a day without the need to charge even with minimal use. I dug around in it and killed beaming service and now the battery life is back to near new levels...
Just download more batteries.
it's like when your phone gets too hot, go buy some ice cubes on Amazon
I downloaded a 12v from the piratebay and now I'm a %400 battery
you can download more ram while you are at it
Thati impossible, you cant just download a more max battery
Brendan Hardin /r/whoooosh
Maybe Linus has been dealing with tech to such an extent and for so long that he has developed the ability to be partially battery driven.
So it's actually Linus himself that is draining the battery, so far he only seem to be Samsung compatible though.
Give this man a medal🏅
Someone should ask him if he feels more energetic while carrying the S9+.
Yep let linus buy a new s9+ and use that XD
Nest explanation yet.
Finally, a video I can 100% relate to.
What is your device?
@@NickKonstantinidis note 8 same problem
@@GogulRavi Really? I was thinking of buying the note 10+
@@NickKonstantinidis bro it depends on the particular phone but not the entire model... Some phones are defective.. not all... I've experienced the same on my OnePlus 3
@@NickKonstantinidis id recommend iphone if you don't wanna take risk..
NSA is tracking Linus. Uses up the battery.
Install LineageOS! That way, only the NSA backdoor in the firmware remains, and that one uses little battery power, to be hard to detect!
Isn't he from Canada
nsa don't caaaree
@@kanewilliams5482 NSA reaches lotsa of countries including Canada
USA doesnt care for borders, if they could the would invade every country, they just jait for excuses to "give democracy" to the rest of the world, like when they put a few Dictators in power to avoid democraticly elected Socialist presidents in a few countries. or give weapons to extremist, like isis, yea, USA, giving democracy to the world
Hey Linus. Install an app called "AccuBattery." It has ACTUALLY useful data that's not complete garbage like the ones in the battery section of the UI. It shows whats actually draining the battery. It also shows idle drain speed and whether or not your phone goes into the "deep sleep" that it should go to when idling.
A second thing you could do is install wakelock detector lite. It is a nonroot method (that needs some adb magic) to see what apps are preventing your phone from properly idling.
Also, the fact that your phone gets hot is just more evidence that it isn't idling properly and is likely kept awake by some app. Most Android phones go into a "deep sleep" where they use like 0 battery over time and only are awake when something important happens. However, something is clearly preventing this deep sleep from happening. The things that prevent this are called wakelocks which, as the name suggests, lock your phone into an awake mode where it uses significantly more battery. If accubattery, after a few days of it getting to know your phone, says that it is only in deep sleep 60% or less of the screen off time, then somethings up. Install wakelock detector to find out what the something is. Hope this helps!
EDIT:Just compiling some advice from the comments.
1) accubattery isnt too tough to use, in fact, it walks you through the steps and what each statistic means.
2) accubattery also has a "battery health" indicator which shows how much of your battery has degraded. If you drain to 5% and charge to 100% daily, the battery degrades really quick (because of some high voltage voodoo happening in the 80-100% area)
3) wakelock detector lite isn't actually tough to use either - it guides you through the Adb magic
4) better battery stats might work too. It apparently also just needs atb magic, according to the replies of this comment.
5) if you find something fishy, just Google it. For example, "Facebook causing wakelocks" or something might yield some useful results.
AccuBattery also shows battery health, which might also be part of the issue
This is the correct answer.
Greenify might also help
I use Better Battery States but it needs root.
Or Betterbatterystats?
This is 100% due to the GPU/CPU frequencies not scaling down properly or going into deep sleep frequencies. This cannot be seen on the android battery manager. Maybe some apps like a browser running a gif/flash is preventing the GPU frequency from scaling down even when the phone is locked.
i wiped my phone, installed nothing and disabled everything i could think of then cleared the cache of everything i used to disable everything and the same battery effect happened until i started paying attention to the charging current
Good idea man
you can see prossess usuage under phone info.
Had the issue on my Galaxy S8. Noticed that often it's hot when I pull it out if my pocket + completely horrible battery life. Turns out the Android system service called Beaming Service is bugged and causes battery drain. I disallowed background activity for that service and my phone is healed :) Oh, and noticed zero negative side effects after disabling that service in the background.
google stealing location data could cause this to i would assume :P
Spent 2 months on this video and left it at 9:59. Respect
Doesn't matter - they got a sponsor... They would get money anyways
More like, Mistake
@@jadabughaida9425 yea like a few thousand and they still make 10000s a month
And your comment has 69 liked :)
@@joebidenVEVO how do you even know that? there are still people that don't use ad blockers?
Linus please read this. This happened to me and I managed to find the reason and I also got the phone replaced by Samsung. This is for my s8 btw but i think it applies. The overheating when idle started when I enrolled in the Samsung Beta program. After the first update I got from the beta program; the problem has started. The problem did not go away even after a factory reset so it was 100% a software problem. Maybe for you it is not a beta program patch but just a normal patch. Sometimes the patches do make this problem happen as I read so many time about it online that people's phones start having this problem after a patch. Please read this and consider replacing the phone with Samsung. They shipped a new S8 to me after this. Thanks for reading this.
WHICH COUNTRY ARE YOU IN? THEY DON'T REPLACE PHONE IN OUR COUNTRY
Not a specific phone issue otherwise it wouldn't happen on the Note 9 and S8 as well.
This is most likely a wakelock issue. There's some apps that help you spot the issue. I think it's called wakelock detector.
Google backup was draining my battery. After, I switched to Samsung only backup, I haven't had any issues.
This is why i disable system updates after 2 or 3 updates in developer options
This is probably the difference of the Snapdragon and Exynos variants of the phone. I have the snapdragon variant of the Note 8 and I have great battery life.
TO NOTE- I worked in Cellular Repair for Sprint for a number of years and ive been a hobby tinkering/ Rooting with android since the HTC Hero was a big deal. Heres is my 2 cents- I hope it helps.
1. Are all the devices running on the same carrier? THIS IS A BIG DEAL. Not all data services are equal. Some provide better penetration through buildings than others, and while the device WILL NOT represent usage in the system monitor, it can in fact pull more power to the antenna to maintain reliable connection to services.
The same goes for where you are using the devices. Depending on the building, you may have one device struggle to maintain signal over the other which could lead to the inconsistencies in your tests.
2. How did you set up your current device? Doing a fully data copy off one device to another could cause you issues for a million reasons. Wipe both Samsungs, reset them both to the same, and then run the test. To be fair, running them stock with no added apps or accounts synced wouldnt be a bad idea for a base metric.
3. To ensure youre dealing with a hardware issue, you should run it in safemode. No change in batt life = bad hardware.
4. YOURE NOT ALONE- Ive worked with Samsungs a long time and ive noticed that as you use the devices they slow down and the batteries dont last as long (And this happens much sooner the devices life span than it should.) Ive always suspected that they perhaps arent using high grade materials within the device and that causes them to literally wear out over time. A new device wouldnt have these issues. Its brand new. An older used device would suffer. Poor conductors in the boards or the CPUs would lead to power loss through heat. As you mentioned the device gets warm, battery goes dead. That said, could also be a battery quality of life issue. Hard telling without cracking the phones open and testing the batts at full charge to get true MaH readings and checking the ohms throughout the circuits on the board. Ive never had equipment to really confirm the poor materials thoery, but the metrics I had for exchange rates and battery issues matched the theory. If that was something I still had access to and/or could share I would.
Hey since u have experience in rooting .. is there a way to root Huawei phones without paying ?
@@absinteta6610 off the top of my head Idk. Never messed with their stuff. Checkout XDA Developers website for your model. If there's a way, they will have it. Great community of modders on there.
@@Tree_Cruiser Huawei no longer provides bootloader codes and the only option I could find was blocked by a pay wall .. XDA wasn't able to help either
And everyone was making a big deal with Apple and how they throttle older phones to save battery. This seams like a much worse problem to have. And why are all the solutions around rooting a phone? You’re paying close to a $1000 or more for this phone, and you have to root it? Which voids warranty and most likely increases the risks to malware and hacking. I had a note 3 for a few months and noticed that it was dog after 6 months. Sold it and bought an iPhone 6 Plus. And never looked back. I have iOS beta running on a iPhone X now and couldn’t be happier. I find it hilarious that most Samsung’s ( and Android in general) are NEVER running the up to date OS and usually have to root their phones. 🙄
As far as my knowledge goes, you can still get Bootloader codes from Huawei but not the easy way. You have to contact their support with your IMEI and write them why and what for you want those codes, ie. telling them you want to play around with Root and Custom ROMs. Some people on XDA talked about it and said it usually doesn't take Huawei long to send you your codes.
Why don't you install "BetterBatteryStats" and monitor what's consuming your battery.
I use an app calls AccuBattery. It helps me to find out that the Audible app drain shit tonne of battery.
I scrolled down to comment this too xd
BBS gathers deeper and wider informations than Accubat
Use accubat for estimating ur battery capacity
BBS is more suitable for investigating idle drain
P.S.
linus, its a paid app on the play store but u can get it free from the official XDA thread
P.S.2
the dev of this app provides a guide about how to use it without a root permission
check this out
better.asksven.org/nonroot-devices/
P.S.3
This below is what u need to look into
Check the 'summary', and see ur device actually goes into 'deep sleep' state or not
And then check the 'partial wakelocks', those are the thing that prevents ur device to go into 'deepsleep'
It also shows which process consumed the most, u can see this in the 'processes'
it doesn't even require root, just a few ADB commands to enable advanced monitoring. Could be some background system process that has hung itself or something
BetterBatteryStats uses root to get more detailed battery info though.
@@RobinJamesEricBond even on Samsung phones with Knox?
*points at watch
"It's been 6 months since then"
U surprised a watch is able to tell the date?
Kalyser .G But pointing a watch to allude to how many days have passed would be like me showing people my toilet after they ask what I ate for lunch.
Both of them might get the point across, but only if you piece together all the information.
It's just a gesture to refer to the passage of time, which is exactly what watches are for. Go analyze something else that actually needs it.
@@user-nh3gu1ge3d Thank you. Due to your comment I have been inspired to stop making one TH-cam comment every few months. I have instead used that time to invent. cold fusion.
But yeah, it's all semantics. But then again, why not birth a few chuckles from an otherwise innocuous gesture.
Do you have a memory card installed in the phone?
My sister had an issue with her Galaxy S3 years ago with it constantly heating up and godawful battery life.
Turns out it was a memory card that was going bad which was causing the phone to constantly try to read it, causing the phone to heat up and destroy her battery life, particularly while the screen was off.
If you're using the same memory card in different phones that might explain why you're having the same issue in multiple phones.
This needs a bump. That would make sense in my testing
Best suggestion I've read yet.
I had this happen to me also or maybe you just got a bad phone. I would pull the sd card out and see if your battery life increases.
Trying this now. Will report back in a couple days
Edit: can confirm, this works AMAZING! Thank you!
I agree. I would test with a new memory card and an old memory card and check the results
100% Getting mined. Couple of key points here.
1. You say battery life is fine when using the phone. But once Idle the whole thing goes to hell. Poorly designed versions of this program will use too much juice when running but they are all designed to be turned off when the phone is in use to minimize any performance issues so the owner wont know.
2. This is only happening on Samsung Devices indicating that someone has your Samsung Info or a Backdoor into that account.
3. The sporadic timing of when your Galaxy devices start to act like this indicates a human factor on the other end finally noticing that you have moved to a new device.
Ive done this before on my phones because i was bored and it is so someone hacking you to mine.
This was my first thought.
Bear Jeffries had the same idea
This makes sense. Is there any way to know if you're being "hacked to mine"? Would a factory reset solve the problem? I guess it would represent itself if, as you say, they have a backdoor in a Linus' account.
My initial thoughts too when the comparison for Linus' phone came up with the test one. Easy way to find out would be wiping the phone and seeing if it still happens without any connection to him I guess.
This was my first thought
Just last week, I had a 6% battery drain an hour on my Pixel 2 Xl after upgrading to Android Pie. After asking around on XDA, this is what I did to fix it. Download and install Accubattery to monitor your mAh usage. Make sure you check your deep sleep percentage. By the sound of things, your phone is running hot when idle, so it's not sleeping like it should be. You can install Wakelock Detector Lite to see which apps are keeping your phone awake. Once you find out what apps are draining your battery, use the System battery manager in Settings to restrict battery usage for those apps. If that doesn't help, then uninstall the app (unless it is necessary to you). If an app isn't keeping your phone awake, then it may be your system settings. Turn off location scanning for wifi and bluetooth (in the GPS section). Turn off Wifi auto-connect to open wifi. Where I live I have pretty weak cellular connection. I opted to disable Mobile data always active in developer options (Go to about phone, and tap the build number 7 times, then enter your device password). While you are here, you can check Running services in developer options and see what you have running. Also, make sure your accounts aren't stuck trying to sync. If they are, cancel the sync and restart it. Depending on how far you are backlogged, this can take a while. If the sync still gets stuck, try removing and re-adding the account that is getting stuck.
After I restricted/uninstalled the misbehaving applications and tuned the device settings, I'm getting great standby time on my Pixel 2 XL. If I close all my apps before putting the phone back in my pocket, according to accubattery, I'm losing 15mA/h or about 0.4%/h. If I charged my phone to 100%, then unplugged it without using it at all, it would take 10 days for the battery to run out. It's pretty good. As someone who primarily uses their phone as a communication device and research tool, I'm a pretty lightweight user. I hope this helps, Linus.
Only comment here that is logical. This is exactly what he should do, as I've done the same in the past on my Galaxy S8+
This is some good advice here! Thank you BetaLeaf!
First quality comment i see here. That's what he should do
Which of course I came here to say almost exactly this this user nailed it there is a fundamental fall in the Android operating system and or app system that permits functions to keep the phone from actually going to sleep fully this one hundred percent is responsible for battery drain
This is precisely why you don't notice any unusual drain when you're actually using the device because all devices use power that fast because they're all about the same thing screen processor Etc
The only differentiation is when you put the phone to sleep that's what would determine your overall battery life because most of the time you're not actually using your phone it's in your pocket so your sleep power usage is why you would see such a dramatic difference in battery life such as with your daily driver when you put the phone to sleep it's not actually going to sleep it's being a naughty child and staying up and doing stuff
This is a core problem with the Android ecosystem it permits apps to keep itself awake and not go to sleep and has very little feedback to you that this is happening and it's also why the phone is hot when you pulled it out of your pocket
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S9 AOD: *teleports randomly*
Pixel 2 AOD: haha clock go wiggle
Wiggle wiggle
*Too too too too tooo toooo*
You just need to set it up correctly
clock go brrrrrrrrrrrr
It took me WAY too long than I don’t feel embarrassed to admit that AOD stands for always-on display 🤦♂️smh
1)Try changing the sim in your daily driver...
2)Check if the device is going to doze mode.
If it's not going to doze mode then try to find the app which is causing wakelocks.
3)Try backing up and restoring your daily driver s9s backup to the new s9.
If the battery drain drain occurs on the new s9 after the restore then its related to some app you use.
4)Try removing face lock/iris/fingerprint unlock from your daily driver.
5)Try rebooting both the devices to safe mode and see if it's still draining battery.
6)Try using same chargers both the devices. Then see if the problem still persists.
7)Use accubattery or gsam battery manager.
*The Exynos version of s9 had some problems related to battery drain when it was released. Check which version of s9 you are using.*
From screenshots in videos it seems that you always keep NFC and Bluetooth turned on......Try switching them off.
I don't understand why they could not come up with any of these ideas...
@@RubenKemp it's ltt. They say fresync on a Korean monitor doesn't work when they used an Nvidia card
I would also remove bloatware. Personally, I use the note 4. I can remove my battery, which I did, and get a bigger mAh battery, which I did. 11,000 mAh. The newer phones are glued shut. You'd have to use a heat pad just to change yours out. My guess it's your battery went bad. They do have limited charging cycle lives. Could be yours reached it. Another thing that kills batteries faster is charging them over night or letting them fully discharge.
I think it would have been cooler had you guys tested these rooted vs unroot as well.
For point 1, he said he tried no sim and multiple sims and they all had the same results
Modern devices use better power management. Letting your phone charge overnight doesn't really kill the battery anymore, since it technically stops charging when it hits 100%.
That Russian dude installed mining software on your phone LOL
Steve What’s the story behind that guy? Why does he want to be a grunt worker for ltt? Can’t he get a better paying job?
MrNosugarcoating lol
Use OnePlus 6. Gets me through the day, with remaining battery till the next day.
A day of mining? Impressive
@parag My 1st production run One+5 still gets me 2 days of battery life. It used to die really fast after their 2nd update. My One+5 use to die really fast after that update. It would drain and die during idle. The majority of battery usage was "idle" and some other background thing(s) that were out of my control. After a few updates (like 5-8 months) later, it was fixed... -_- I think One+ is taking plays out of the Apply Playbook to shorten the life of, or frustrate, their customers' phones to make them buy the new one. The next One+5 only just came out until another update came out that did the same thing, after being fixed for a month or some. Eventually it came to a decent stable position that it's in now, which is probably what the company wants...faster slow-degeneration but not enough that customers will rebel in masses.
Linus Tech Tips asking for tech tips
I thought the same. When online forums don't work for you (like everyone else.) ask your community for tips for your personal problems.
Shoddy
here is the tip of the day, its called a SHORT probably a bad solder point
He already knows the answers. He will tell you back soon with another video.
Unfortunately unbox therapy does seem to be the normies tech channel of choice. Not that his stuff is at all bad, or that I have any real problem with his content, I just prefer LTT's vibe
It’s a different way, a lot more simple. LTT would go over the average grandma, but UT would be understood
Well, you need a normie tech channel to get normies interested in tech. LTT is too much for someone who only recently got interested in tech.
@@ajayjanardhan yeah I definitely got into ltt from watching ut
I like the comedy of lew.
*Normies"? Are you 13 years old? You label and define other people based on how much they know about the things YOU happen to like and know about?
My friend had a similar issue with data and after talking with a Google engineer, he told him he should just make a new account. His specific account somehow triggers massive amounts of data consumption on any phone he's logged into. I'd bet your Google account has something like this.
We're your test phones logged into your Google account?
shoot, really?
He said he logged into the same accounts
3:24 info in the vid btw
We're = We are...
We need linus to see dis persons comment
You should compare how quickly it charges from 0 to 100 compared to the the new one If your phone charges way quicker then the new one your batteries capacity is most likely compromised from either too many recharge cycles or the battery was no good from the factory.
brett20000000009 He did say they consume the same amount when used heavily. My money is on the Facebook app. Get Facebook Lite :P
I found facebook eating my battery. After getting rid of it, battery life doubled.
brett20000000009 I'm going through the same thing as Linus. And my phone still takes about the same amount of time to charge as when I first got it
brett20000000009 bs
the fact that linus takes it out of his pocket hot indicates that the battery has its energy storage parameters in place
You should do a follow up if Samsung contacts you.
agreed
Like MacBook pro core i9
when, not if
That’s probably the goal of the video
Here are some things you can try:
1. clone over your phone to another phone and see if the problem persists. (see if its Hardware or Software)
2. Many phones have some sort of RAM optimizer that loads freequently apps in RAM. Try disabeling that.
3. If nothing helps, try rooting the Phone and install a coustom ROM, to see if its Samsungs software or Samsungs Hardware that is behaving badly.
4. Try slightly undervolting the Phone, ive seen this help sometimes. (Seems to be something in Samsungs Bootloader or Firmware)
[Im from germany so sorry for bad grammar.]
He could also try to factory reset his phone
@@antonvrigborn6666 Well, this doesn't seem like a defect. I think it is some sort of algorithm that tries to optimize battery life or performance. Something about Linus' way of using it causes it to malfunction. Sooo.... Resetting it would lead to the same result.
My way to fix it th-cam.com/video/j5a0jTc9S10/w-d-xo.html
My theory is the location and the signal quality. I have the same issue, when i am at work, where the data signal isn't very good and the wifi is restricted, even though i rarely touch my phone, the battery drains like crazy. when i am ANYWHERE else, gaming like crazy on the phone etc, the battely drains slower! It drains faster in my pocket at work than while i am gaming at home. So my theory is that the network quality in your area probably makes your phone try to compensate by boosting it's signal, that's why they get hot and drain fast.
That's not a theory, that's just fact. There are 2 main reasons why poor reception results in worse battery life:
1. Depending on the type of radio, it will try to amplify the signal by using more power. I know _some_ Wifi chipsets can do this, but I'm not sure if other radio devices (like GSM, CDMA, Bluetooth, etc) do.
2. For every lost packet you send or receive due to poor signal quality, it has to be re-transferred. As long as you can still remain connected, basically the worse your signal quality is, the more packets that need to be re-transferred. Not only is this very taxing on your battery, but it hurts network latency and bandwidth, too.
That's a cool theory, but I'm not sure how it would work. Is there really that much a phone can do in areas of low signal-quality to boost itself? Is signal really that impactful to battery life? Wouldn't it use more battery when there is more signal because it has more resources to use? I like the idea, but these are the questions that came to mind for me.
but this would ALL the other phone Linus had drain equaly ad fast (but good point)
Ps: i ones got throu three days on one battery on my s9 (lol)
I had very similar results a few years back when I worked in a building with poor data connection and no wife. Phone ran hot all day. Got to the point where I just shut it off while at work.
Yep that's exactly whats happening, the less signal you get the harder your cellphone is gonna work, aka battery drain
Why don't you try with GSAM Battery manager? It's an app that can precisely detect what app is causing drain and for what command
Good idea. Tried that at one stage and it didn't provide any useful information. It doesn't help that it's intermittent.
Giving the App full permissions by rooting the phone could be key to discovery of the drainer
@@michelet.5602 did you even watch the video?
You don't need to root to give the app full battery stat permissions. One ADB command can do it.
You could also try BetterBatteryStats as long as you supply the permission with ADB (not root, just plug it into a computer and run a command once), it should show you wakelocks (which will definitely cause idle battery drain).
I had the same problem with my LG G6. The SD-card was corrupted and was draining my battery from 100%-0% in 3 hours whilst in idle.
Was about to say the same thing. I had massive draining problems on my S6 that fixed its self after removing SD card. Card was working fine in phone and nothing showing in battery monitor . I worked out by accident after pulling it apart cleaning and forgetting to put SD back in.
Yes, that I had a similar problem with my G3. But it was a corrupted file in the SD card.
The S6 has an SD card slot??
@@ultraboonrpg3094 yes it has
had the same issue with my last android phone.
got rid of the SD card and battery life was normal again.
That's simple: you're just being watched, and hidden app that sends your personal data somewhere consumes your battery very fast. As in your video add - try using glasswire and see what it tells
@J. Doe ok im not gonna lie that was good hahahah
This may actually have some plausibility
Facebook apps always drain my phone batteries so I never install and always disable oem fb app.
@@aguiremedia nope
Tbh this is what I thought.
Did you try turning it off and then back on again?
@Jeremy Wolf, You must work at tech support!
Damn beat me to it!
What, haha that was classic wasn't it?
No bs that actually used to work on my old phones
Samsung actually recommends daily restart to help with battery health
If you happen to solve this problem, then please make a video how to fix this. Cause I have the same issue.
Agreed! Same here and I want a follow up to help fix!
Hi, I had this problem with my Note 5 before and i have found out that Doze is not working in my device for some reason using AccuBattery. I tried to install an root/rootless app called NapTime that enforces doze in minutes rather than in hours, after closer observation the phone stopped heating up and battery life was pretty decent.
TLDR:Samsung's Doze Management is somewhat broken at some devices atm. Install Naptime and Accubattery and observe your results
Someone is mining on your phone
I have a s7 edge and I charge it like 2 times per day because my battery is crap fuck you Samsung
back up data
boot into recovery menu
factory reset
boot 5 minutes
restore data
Is it possible you've just been incredibly unlucky and got shitty batteries every time? 🤔 If it's really something you're doing, you could tell by swapping your current phone with one of the new ones that you know performed well out of the box and use that as your daily driver and see if it's battery life changes.
Or maybe it's some accessory you're using? A phone charger that is defective? Hell even a power outlet near your bed you use that's messed up and has been secretly sabotaging your phones or something.
Okay whatever, Mr. Fake tutorials
Except for the phone being hot, I've had (and still have) the same issues that he's experiencing with the S3, S7, and S8, so I'm pretty sure the drain is caused by how the phone is used rather than any defects
Seems to only effect his samsung phones though? SO cant be an outlet.
Or a miner using it's Samsung account. But I don't know if that is even possible for a phone.
Make a tutorial about how to download free new batteries
We need a follow-up video. This is the reason I stopped buying phones from Samsung and I want to know if this problem persists in the latest models.
Did you try turning it off and on again?
That actually helped with my s9's battery killing problems. Used to get through a solid day and a half or more on full battery slow charge then got down to around 14 hrs. I turned it off then on and it went back to normal?
Does that automatically based on the battery drain
my guess is he installed some chinese spying app and it keep uploading data(burning battery) since he is quite a influence, no point to compare with others phone since they dont have Linus's identity
ha
zxcv qwer But then everyone who has issues has this app? Which app could this be?
I have 2 suggestions,
1. Backup and factory reset your personal S9+. If battery life improves, then it was a software problem.
2. Replace the battery. If battery life improves, then it was a battery problem.
If battery life doesn't improve after these, it means that the problem is hardware based i.e internal components are consuming more power.
I know these are not solutions which are viable in real life, but will help us identify the core problem.
have A3 first generation samsung and this problem has it at the very beginning. I still use this phone and there are days when there are about days when the battery runs out of nothing. I have and friends who use samsung and have no problems for years I have and those who have the same problem as me, using different samsung models J7, S7, etc. According to me the problem is factory and can not be removed at least I did not succeed for 4 years.
@@Just_Joro true, I had a Samsung phone many years back and both battery life and performance took a serious hit after like 9 months. I have 4 other friend with Samsung phones and one of them is facing similar issues. The problem with Samsung is quality control, they struggle with making every unit reliable.
He literally said at the beginning of the video this has been an ongoing problem for years, with almost every generation of Samsung phones. As one of the biggest tech TH-camrs, you don't think he would've tried to factory reset any of his phones at least once? Honestly it seems like no one actually listens to anything he says in these videos wtf...
This is not correct. Factory reset doesn't change the core OS phone software only user profile information and apps. Software updates are not uninstalled. If a software update did this there is no way to fix the phone with out unlocking the bootloader(which you can't in the US).
its a user problem, he leaves his phone on his charger for hours when its at 100% while hes sleeping. that will kill any battery no matter the brand.
Cablemod: we make cables more expensive than your Motherboard and CPU combined.
So true, I thought to give them a go with completly custom lengths and colours so I configured them online....was over 250 euro! Haha no thanks I'll stick to the included ones
I like how each segway is exactly 10 seconds long, easy to skip.
Have you tried ruling out the software? Erase both devices and set them up as blank units. Then see if there is any difference between the two Samsungs?!
It is there daily drivers
you know that there is something called backups
@@crazytom2k2 oh, didnt think of that, good call
Video length 9.59
I guess linus doesn't care about the ad revenue anymore
Lol. Yeah, there's no fluff content, except 2 seconds extra may have helped financially
Why is that?
Not when you have cablemod, with their new rgb backplates for your SSDs and graphics cards to improve the look of your build
Sponsors got his back
@@酗 oh I see! Thanks!
Linus was probably downloading too much ram.
Yes "ram" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Where can I download more RAM (and for free). I only get 8 GB on my phone. I want the double.
@@fixolder1074 www.downloadmoreram.com
Here you go my friend :D
vgamesx1 we exposed him
The Damn Wall Oao, thank you. Upgraded my Pc, phone and Laptop with a lot of RAM. All for free and now - all it runs faster than ever!
Lmao SPYWARE. You're obviously a high value target for industrial espionage.
this is probably it right here. Phones that are constantly recording/streaming audio will drain the s#it out of the battery.
@@Gogglesofkrome theyre not doing that, they have offline detection when you say ok Google for example and only starts sending that after you say ok google
But even then, Android doesn't let apps use your microphone or even be online while the screen is off. So I'm not sure
@@lucasmzreal you're naive if you think android's permissions settings are really actually effective.
@@lucasmzreal That's what they claim but they're always listening. They respond to the "OK Google" phrase and just happen to hear everything else you said before and after.
Actually if you root ur phone, u can use linux deploy to install a linux destro. Then run htop as root. That should give a clear idea of which app ( process ) is using the most of cpu. The problem is android uses Java to track cpu usage in phones. So if its not java, rather a program hogging the cpu, android wont know but htop as root will.
Give this comment to employees good with linux
Im a custom ROM developer from India
Why even bother rooting, install Termux and then apt-get htop
Are you working on GSI treble roms?
plz upvote
It would need root to see all the processes. I just tried it and the only processes it shows are htop and one other thing.
I see every process. If not try running top using terminal emulator. I know Htop had issues due to selinux, but termux team patched that.
You need to watercool it
So it can run crysis ?
P&B Games dun dun DUUUNNNNN....
also needs more RGB
Use OnePlus 6. Gets me through the day, with remaining battery till the next day.
Parag D one plus is ass
I had the same problem and solved it for me at least. If I have google backups activated on my samsung phones it will drain about 7% per hour in idle. Turn it off and it works perfectly fine.
I tried turning it off now, if that works you are the best!
where is google back ups located at?
they mean goto setting and the goto accounts then google and turn off sync
This! pin it. I did it with my S8 and it worked a treat although I have a v30 now awesome battery life.
Just turned it off, I'll report back later.
I dont know whether its reply is tooooo delayed or what , but as a samsung user myself and experimented with there systems here is my explaination:-
1) the inbuilt battery drain monitor is a crap at best.Using third party apps to monitor the usage is a must.
2)Samsung comes with with a ton bloatware that after some that; i.e when it has collected enough data start to send it to samsung when the device idles.(and best part samsung battery monitor never shows that).
3)Get rid of the bloatware specially the samsung galaxy store.
4)disable apps that you dont use often from running in the background ( u can either root ur phone and adb commands or install third party apps for that.)
5)Same must be done for Notifications that u dont need
6)use services like "skit" to forcestop samsung services that runs in the background all the time(really dont disable the crucial ones if u dont know what ur doing then skip this step.)
7)Dont keep your apps open in your ram if you are not going to use them for a while ( i mean 30 min atleast) the reason being the system needs to spend active battery to keep it active in system ram.(Its about cache - google it if u need more info)
8)Opt out of all "customer experience programs both from google and other third parties , and dont forget to turn off samsung sync for thats a battery hog.
9)Block location access from all apps that request that permission ( it could be monitored by using third party apps , some are open source too😊).............and enable them every time you use it and then again disable it.For many apps continuously pings or just records location the gyro for reasons ---- idk. ( but that $*cks for your battery).
10)THIS CAN BE APPLIED TO ANY DEVICE RUNNING ANDRIOD 7 PLUS BUT I CANT SAY MUCH FOR I AM FOR MOST PART A SAMSUNG USER.
AFTER HEAVY OPTIMIZATION MY DEVICE SOMETIMES LAST 3 DAYS ; THOSE MAY BE OVER KILL AND YOU YOU ALL FIND A SWEET SPOT.
Last request of mine if you took time to read this then drop a like and make linus & other of my fellow andriod users , see this for it may help him out.
Thanx a lot for your time!!!!!!!!
A lot of people complaining in the comments like "Why don't you just do this, why don't you just fix it yourself". Except that's not why you paid nearly a thousand dollars to buy a phone. You paid for it so it comes perfect out of the box. And the subpar battery life on Samsung phones in inexcusable for the premium price you're paying.
You can tinker with it all you want and fix these issues yourself, but it's stupid that you had to pay so much and you still have to work on it.
But my S9+ works normal. Sooooooo.....
Well said, the very reason I don't buy Samsung anymore last three I had all had weird battery issues could not rely on the devices at all.
only solution, don't buy this overpriced garbage
If the battery life on Samsungs were really that bad there'd be way more complaints, especially from reviewers.
My s8+ and s9+ and note 9 worked amazing with battery especially note 9 get 2 days od battery life
I personally think it might be a issue with mining malwares, it would drain your device much faster since its mining on your particular mobile, and if its mining it explains why your device is getting hot without you using it, because mining softwares puts your phone's CPU and GPU on a constant load. Or simply try factory resets, to check if any unnoticeable apps are installed without you knowing it.
Yeah, something running in the background definitely seems likely to me.
Dude android does not have malware's for God sake even I had these issues before the ans for it is rooting the phone and installing tweaks which are on xda or custom rom or underclock the device to see any change
Uninstall all Facebook apps.
+SKILL BRO you think after the decade or so we've had Android phones that people haven't figured out how to make malware for them?
They absolutely can get malware or viruses.
If you watch the video, there are plenty of Galaxy users not encountering this problem, which likely means it's either a QC problem, or something like Malware/a badly designed app.
Additionally, I use Facebook pretty frequently, and do not have these issues, seems unlikely to be the cause to me.
Use the test phone for a few weeks and see how that turns out....
I honestly was shocked he didn't try that before making the video.
He said he was doing these tests for 2 months... You guys were not listening.
@@LordDragonZord no, he said it took 2 months to do this experiment because of billing cycles and shit, where the fuck did you pull that from?
Im telling this to samsung users for years and they still complain and tell me i tell lies xD
Just buy a poco phone F1. 4000mah battery, mine lasts for 3 days normal use and 15+ hours screen-on-time.
So sad that chinese brands show Apple and Samsung how to do it
What the fuck is wrong with you? Watch the god damn video properly. He's been using the phone for ages. He's been talking to Samsung for MONTHS if you didn't listen properly. Holy crap how are people like you allowed on the internet?
I like the causal music in the background while Linus rants on constantly
Oh, that's simple - your phone is probably cursed by a witch. To test it see if it weighs as much as a duck.
It sunk, so weighs more than a duck, however it's still on. witch... witch... witch
Weighs, not weights.
Burn it at the stake!
Seriously, can't believe Linus didn't know about the duck test. If it does turn out to be cursed by a witch, just charge it nine times on a witches' sabbath using a consecrated phone charger. Everyone knows this stuff, Linus...
Don't you hate it when that happens? the duck test is really helpful for this kind of things though.
my S9+ did that same thing. all my friends had amazing battery life on theirs. i got it replaced but only after arguing with a Verizon employee over how the phone itself was not saying anything was wrong. but i still had to charge it several times a day with very light use.(responding to occasional texts ONLY) I couldnt use the phone. but my replacement S9+ can last a full day on performance mode without dying.
I really appreciate this video because of the validation it gives my argument, which is that my first S9+ had a bad battery. AND its not just me, its possibly a Samsung issue.
Ah I see you're a man of Mugi aswell
I had EXACTLY this issue with one of my Samsung phones, it got so bad that the phone was draining faster than it charged , so the phone drained even when on the charger, I tried several solutions, one that worked for a while was to do a factory reset and re-install all the apps (made easy because the apps installed list was saved to google backup).
The final solution that fixed it ( and it's been absolutely fine since then) was to clear the cache for google services and uninstall it then re-install.
The phones been absolutely fine since then.
Every time someone has weird issue with Android phone, I recommend disabling Google Play Services and Google Play Store for a while (I think you need to unset it first under "Device administrators", but root is NOT required). I remember when Google Play Services update (and it updates silently in background without giving you any control over it) caused some phones with custom ROM to crash the OS when the charger was plugged. Then again, it may be a different issue (e.g. hardware one).
Settings > Apps > Google Play Services > Battery > Allow Background Activity > Off. Yes, this will obviously disrupt updates and other things as well (I haven't extensively tried it yet), but it's just an idea to see if maybe that's the service causing the issue. His daily driver is going to consume more battery life because he most likely did not go through and empty the cache of every single app that he uses. I'm sure if he did that on both phones, the battery consumption may be similar (but still not exact).
Swap batteries to isolate the battery from the handset and once isolated, compare recharge times for battery health and finally gauge ambient temperatures. No isolation places issue at handset, starting at antenna and working out (signal consistency - same carrier, SIM) and if those check OK, either there's a fault you won't find or you are, unsurprisingly, magnetic.
9:59 minutes long.
*Damnit! Who edited this video?!*
Dennis probably
on pc its 9:58
I did.
0:00 is still a second of the video, I think that is how he got 59, pc doesn't count it, afaik android doesn't either.
Why is everybody talking about 9:59 and demonetisation?
@@fazekasroland2968 yes, Android does.
Linus, when you had your old phone you always used cable to copy apps and settings from old to new. YOU never started fresh. the test s9+ you used it fresh and manual installed all your apps. thats why.
Curious if this is the reason.
1 up this, an out of date ROM is often better than a dirty flash of the same BUT updated ROM, deprecated settings get moved over and streams get crossed...
This sounds like it makes the most sense. If he had some weird app settings from a while ago and never bothered to correct them it would make sense that those craptastic settings are somehow killing his battery life. I was also thinking if maybe (recently) it has to do with connecting his phone to Bluetooth devices or even his own body heat? Hell maybe even being around so many computer components and heat and variables messes with his phones abilities
That seems stupid, I have the same problem with my S6 and I started fresh :/
Also note that even if he did start fresh, Samsung AND pixel Android 7/8/9 operating systems don't list true background process data. That is solely up to the OS battery manager to figure out, of course with some front end daemon to keep the memory manager from shutting it down and crashing the whole system. Either way, this data is hidden and encapsulated for security purposes (aka row hammer and other low level hack protection)
My theory is that the CPU is not lowering it's clocks and voltages when idling. This would explain the large difference in battery life between it and the other S9. Also, it'd be the reason battery stats isn't reporting an app that is consuming all the power. It'd be interesting to make a backup of the stock ROM and flash it on to the DBrand S9 to see if it's battery life performance takes a hit. If not then it's more than likely a hardware issue on the personal phone. If it does then it's probably a kernel issue with that ROM. Why this happens would still be a mystery but it could point to TouchWiz becoming corrupted over time.
It is called planned obsolescence.
Are you dumb? It's a nearly brand new phone and he said he's having the same problems with the note 9
btw not OP i meant to @I Like Planes
Its samsung my tab 3 deos the same thing
I feel like my iPhone has does that to and the only way to stop it draining power is to cool it down like putting it in front of a fan.
I had a weird issue with my S4 Mini when I first got it, the battery at first seemed fine, but after a couple years ish of ownership the battery seemed to just not hold up if data or WiFi was connected. Also it had a weird battery indication issues, sometimes when it hit somewhere between 25% - 15% it'd just degrade all the way down to zero in about half a minute unless I disabled data or WiFi, in which case it'd maybe last an hour or two if I disabled it in time... I tried techniques to calibrate the battery indicator to no avail.
I figured the battery was on it's way out (it didn't have any bulging or any visible issues to the battery itself), so I replaced it with an official Samsung S4 Mini replacement I got online. This appeared to make absolutely ZERO difference to anything. Of course I understand rechargeable batteries degrade over time but replacing it seemed it make no difference AT ALL to battery life or any issues I was having.
Try factory resetting and don't restore your apps from Google or Samsung backups, do a fresh install of every app from the play store.
Alex Lerman Yeah that’s what I was going to suggest. I don’t use Android but I know Microsoft syncs some weird random ass stuff when logged into Windows 10 with a Microsoft account on different computers. I mean, cursor size and color? Really?
"And we'll tell you about it right after a message from our sponsor, Samsung..."
I'm looking forward to getting a follow up.
Me too
Good luck
same
Same! waiting a follow up!
Disable the built in virus scanner! It is powered by McAffee and we all know that it sucks.. It helped on my Note9 and on my girlfriend's S9. You can check it under Settings>Device Maintenance>Device Security. If you already enabled it then you can disable it under Settings>Apps>Show system apps>Device Security>Storage>Clear Data. Hope this helps!
One possible reason : They've put a different chipset inside your phone. Often manufacturers have to swap to a different chip if they run out of parts. What I would do is slip a current meter at the battery contacts and do some real measurements. It's the only way to be sure.
The video length is 9:59
Almost got that ad money bois
9:58 for me o.o
Feels bad man
thats not actually how that works the 10 minute myth stems from being able to post an extra add at the 10 min mark not you magically gain 25% more revenue if its 10 minutes
@@crowchillingpark I am watching and it's 9:59
9:58 the mystery?????
Hey Linus, I am here with a very detailed description of (probably just part of) your problem, with the same experience, but with no solution even after calling up official Samsung repair shops. I have my Galaxy S7 since they appeared in stores and when the phone was new, I was constantly getting (with my damn heavy battery usage) 6+ and even 7+ hours of SoT. Time went by and this number decreased to 6+ and to 5+ to rougly 5 hours a day and I though, well the battery is older after a year and so and also I have more apps installed and so on. I decided to flash a custom ROM because my friends also got S7s by then and we were tinkering with them and sharing our opinions. We found out, that when the phone is brand new, it charges the battery to 4.35V, which is ridiculous for a Li-Ion battery, so one of my friends decided to charge to only 90% (around 4.2x V) to preserve the battery for a longer time without changing it, I always thought I will buy a new battery after 2 years for 15$ and change it myself... (oh boy). After some time went by my phone really started to last less and less and I even have to charge three times a day sometimes with barely 2 hours of SoT on one charge. I decided to open up the phone and change the battery myself, because I thought, looking at my 2.5 years old phone with 2.5 old years battery that it would fix it. Especially since I pumped it up all the way to 4.35V (oh boy, my sweet summer child) every single day. AND GUESS WHAT, after I changed my battery, I still got BARELY over 2 hours of SoT. And then I really started looking into it. When I charged the new battery (it is 100% original Samsung battery for S7, wait for it), it ONLY charged to 100% to 4.23V... wait 4.23V??? That sounds like 10% loss of battery (because of my friends measurement when he was charging to 90%), but it was much more than that as I later realized. I contacted the most famous custom ROM maker for Samsung Galaxy S7 and most of the new Samsung flagships in general Tkkg1994 and asked him what happened with the voltage. He said that Samsung lowered the voltage in the kernel of the phone after the Note 7 incident so other phones don't blow up with it. I thought that sounds like some reason, but it was true only by a little bit. I opened the kernel files and started looking into the real differences Samsung has programed into the phone and I found something which makes sense but is also really frustrating. In arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos8890-herolte_battery.dtsi there is written, that after 200, 250, 300 and 1000 full discharge cycles of the battery the voltage lowers and lowers from 4.35V to 4.325V to 4.3125V to 4.2875V to 4.2375V to safely charge even an older battery, before Note 7 there was the lowering only twice on 300 and 500 cycles from 4.3625V (notice how the voltage is a little higher berofe the Note 7) to 4.325V to 4.2875V. Yeah that makes sense, the chemicals in the battery aren't as good forever. BUT, guess what happened after I changed the battery. IT STILL CHARGED ONLY TO 4.23V so the battery change was almost useless. I started to dig into why it still charges only to 4.23V. There is a file called battery_cycle in root/sys/class/power_supply/battery/ on the phone, which says 1175 for me. That means my phone has gone through 1175 full cycles (which is damn lot only after 2.5 years), but the number is correct as I was charging multiple times a day for the last few months. BUT WHY DIDN'T IT RESET AFTER I CHANGED THE BATTERY IN THE PHONE? like cmon? I tried to reset the file to 0 but after a reboot, the number came back. I flashed a clean ROM, completely wiped cache, dalvik, data, system and internal storage so many times, I tried factory reset, I spent HOURS talking to officials at Samsung repair shops about what exactly are they doing with the phone after they officially change the battery. They told me they do nothing more than I do. When I checked the battery health and its remaining capacity from the original 3000mAh (which the phone thinks the battery still has remaining, because he apparently didn't notice the battery change at all) it said 58%. 58%!!! That's 1740mAh, I don't want any damn iPhone battery capacities in my phone. This file is also located in root/sys/class/power_supply/battery/ and it is called fg_asoc. Please tell me there is a way to reset the cycle number without changing the motherboard and please fellow Samsung phone users, tell me some of you have changed the battery in Samsung repair shops or at home yourself and send me your values to elaborate this issue together. I hope that Linus can reach out to Samsung and help us all to solve these battery issues. Thank you.
Your phone is being used for crypto-currency mining or something similar while you’re not using it
That was my first thought when he said it was hot after he had it off and in his pants. I am very surprised that this is the only comment after scrolling through pages of them.
I have an S6 Edge+ in battery saving mode, so only certain apps can run when the screen is off, and I usually get up at 5am for work, I use Bluetooth for a speaker nearly all day but by 12 midday it's sub 10%
I used to have an LG G5, and it'd be at 40-50% midday. Plus whenever I get it out of my pocket/bag it's warm. Also, removing facebook extends my battery life by 5+ hours
A number of free apps are known to use it, especially a lot of children's games. I am curious what might happen if he installed his app list on the new phone. I am not saying he has a bunch of free kids games on him phone XD but perhaps something else. In fact that makes a lot of sense if it has carried over on every Samsung phone he has used. Though my Note 8 Monitors app battery usage, maybe they found away around that but it is something standing in the way of that theory.
This needs to be the top comment because I’d be willing to bet money this is what’s happening. Samsung doesn’t want people knowing their phones aren’t safe so they aren’t gonna help him.
Perhaps, but he did mention they duplicated apps between phone setup and that didn't seem to change the performance. The only thing I can think of is crypto-currency mining malware. I'm wondering if that somehow got moved over to his new Note 9 via backup or it's a specific site he visited (again) on his phone that infected him.
i used to have this issue on my Xperia Z5 Premium years ago, the same issue, battery drain when the device was idling. When i looked into it, there was a service call "Google Play Service" running in the background (of course it would, why wouldn't it) but it was behaving abnormally, it was sending data packages over and over again which cause it to use alot of the battery life even when i am not using the phone, and when i force stop it, the battery life went back to normal (but of course, if i use any google play service, it will start again and the battery will drain again). At that point, i have already had re-contracted for a new phone and i deemed the Xperia Z5 worthless to me, so i factory reset it. To my un-surprise, the battery drain issue was solved, so my guess is kind of the same as yours, some weird app is draining battery life and i don't know which app it was, but i have heard that if your phone battery is being drained, your phone might be compromised by a virus that sends our data to the hacker which could make sense. But idk, its just my logic on this, hope it helps.
Have you checked if it's the notifications and sync causing this if your phone is constantly checking the cloud for updates on your apps? I disabled all my notifications and shut off auto sync and my battery tends to last a lot longer. If that doesn't work, try microwaving it. 😬
lol
Microwaving it xD
I just microwaved my phone omg it's like so much better ♥
That would have showed up in his battery usage chart...
Woah Dro, didnt expect to see you in the comments of this vid.
But did you try turning it off and on??🙄
go back to paky you indian
Must work for the tech support department 😂
Bobs
xD
I'm sure he did
9:58 Mission failed, we'll get the revenue next video.
he has a sponsor anyways
Young Dabber He has a sponsor in the actual video, your use of adblocker is irrelevant
@@TheDabEnthusiastGaming he has sponsor in video your adblocker is nothing
I 100% relate. Every time I get a phone, samsung, apple, oneplus. I always get the faulty broken ones literally EVERY TIME 😒😭
happened the same for me for every phone especially samsung phones, until I switched to iphone 3 years back. not a single issue since then
I have a idea. It's an odd one but I think it's worth a try. So find another S9 phone exactly like yours especially one that you exactly compared battery life to and then swap the batteries. Open the cases, pull those suckers out and swap them. If it's a shit battery, which happens, then you should notice the rolls reversed. I'm thinking that there may be an issue with the battery cell interacting with the part of the battery that interacts with the phone itself. Plz like so he can see this! I didn't see him mention this test and am interested to see an outcome.
the s9 batteries are not removable
@@krasnoiark you still can remove them yourself
Yeah linus is not very technical on how a battery works and fails. He as most people do act like its infallible magic! heat can't stress it over discharging can't stress it. Its magic. If I asked people what happen to bread in a hot car they would say it would ruined. When ask what would happen to a battery... nothing it would still taste bad. Lol. You can't blame Samsung on how a battery works. And its physical structure.
Doesnt help. My S7 Edge has the exact same problem. it even went so far that eventually the battery was at 70% and my phone hard shut-down and when i connected it to the charger again it read 0%..............
After a few weeks of that randomly happening, it literally would not charge anymore. Ever.
I walked to an aftermarket phone repair place (i live in china, stuff is easy and cheap as hell to get fixed, screw licences) and replaced the battery (with a dodgy aftermarket battery, god knows where it came from lol).
The first month, BETTER preformance and longevity with that shitty dodgy 2 dollar battery, than the original S7 battery the month before, not even joking. But as you can expect, a few weeks later the same thing happened.
Got a third battery replacement, this time with a LEGIT S7 edge battery, and guess what?
1% per minute battery drain bug still there randomly. After a few weeks, phone shuts down at 80% power, restarts at 1%. Eventually wont charge above 50% anymore.
I'm so fucking done with Samsung. amazing phones, broken-ass batteries.
@@Baleur same thing is happening with my Xperia
I suspect a cytomining bloat in form of some app or cookies saved from your chrome browser got installed/saved and runs when your phone is idle and the app/cookie syncs across all your samsung devices through Samsung back up and sync process...
...
As hypothetical as it may sound, it's just a theory!!
...a game theory!
He also signed into his account on the new test phone
I actually think so too. Here's a thumbs up.
@@tjsh02 maybe the script for the program is made to wait a certain amount of time before running
That doesn't make sense. Firstly, cookies aren't synced between devices. Secondly, cookies are a means to store data and are not interpreted in browsers.
A rogue app should have been spotted during the preparation process. Or at the very least installed to the test phones...
An easier explanation is that Linus has a bum battery on his S9+
Did you set up the device manually instead of restoring from a backup. Try manually resetting the device and apps one by one. That's what solved the issue for me on My s8
Everyone please like this
Does this video have a follow up? I wanna know if they figured this out
Use app called wakelock detector there is guide on figuring out what is what. Also app kernel toolkit (it works without root for this, or use any other app that has feature mentioned below) just let phone sit and after a while take a look at frequency times if most of time CPU was in high freq then some app is ramming the CPU/battery
If battery is ok than some app is developed crappy or maybe location services are to blame
Edit: or just do a factory reset r2d2's get most of software problems solved this way or reboot
I have used wakelock in the past to find out that it was the Auto rotate sensor, that was kicking in all the time, keeping the phone awake 100% of the time, that is was killed my battery back than, also causing a hot to the touch phone. turning off auto rotate fixed it.
Now it's 3 months later, have they replied you or got any reasonable explanation?
I've left a comment string which had since gained some attention. It's been quite successful in determining a cause. I found that chrome seems to be causing it. Other people have uninstalled it and have seen a drastic improvement. You could try this :).
Alternatively some people have found that turning Google location services off also solves the problem. It may be worth trying this too if the chome thing doesn't work.
Hope this helps.
I switched to Firefox, which is similar.
Tom Hubbard thanks will try that, I really appreciate your reply!
@@Samiismyname np. Hope it works :)
Did it work?
@@Samiismyname did it work?
IT IS OS SPYWARE. I moved to lineage os and my battery life improved dramatically.
Someone is using his phone to mine. Something to do with his samsung account info so everytime he sets up a Galaxy they start the process again. Common Place
? I dont even get how people mine with their phone. It to small of a device no air circulation or anything
Similar issue. I had an S6 active for over 3 years. For most of that time battery life was great. All of a sudden a couple months ago out of nowhere my battery started tanking. By noon it was 30%. I thought it had finally had it, after multiple reboots it still did it. Randomly I decided to charge it then turn it off and leave it be overnight and something in that really helped. It still drained a bit faster than normal but not much. After listening to podcasts all day and light-moderate screen usage, batter was around 45-55% at the end of the day. No idea what changed but after that it seemed like I had some days that were better than others. I even installed Accubattery to see if I could figure out what was draining it and I couldn't.
Aight Linus, so long time Samsung user and Samsung retail rep, I worked at one of those Samsung booths in Best Buy for 2 years. I have 3 suggestions for you that will probably solve the issue. 1. Reset the cache partition. Don't ask me why but sometimes this solves all the problems and is honestly super easy to do. 2. Go to at best buy with a Samsung booth that has reps that actually have a laptop with Samsung official software and tell them to re-flash the software. This will ultimately solve most software issues and doesn't completely wipe out your phone like you doing a hard reset at home. 3. It HAS to be a hardware issue and you should get the battery replaced by Samsung. I at one time or another owned an S6, S7, S8+ and now Note8. The ONLY model that ever got hot for me was the S6 and S7 which has drastically changed thanks to the Note 7.
Hope this helps.
Not hardware, not yet anyways, this is a software issue, something he's installed is fucking around too much in the background
Looks like software, given it happens to him no matter what Samsung phone he uses.
Lithium Ion batteries are prone to losing battery life if they are constantly on charge, it can also cause a 'gassing'' effect which puffs up the battery. As a mobile phone technician I've seen this commonly on iPhones but it does happen with other consumers of Lithium Ion batteries. I would dare say it's just the battery.. I doubt it's a software issue. This may be a recurring issue for Linus but I can almost guarantee it's because it's kept on charge for 12+ hours a day....
Hi,
I went to an official Samsung repair store and they replaced the battery and re-flashed the original firmware. Do you have any suggestions from here on? Battery life still is kind of crap in stand-by mode...
@@DorianDiaconuTV what kind of phone do you have?
look up how to install the wakelock detector on a non rooted phone
and it will tell you what's keeping the phone awake instead of doing all of that
That's what I thought exactly - strange how it wasn't the first thing he tried...
Battery drain while screen is off is classic wakelock issue
Also thought about wakelock detector. I use it to detect battery drain
simple battery is dead
That's one option especially for old phone battery, but sometimes replacing the battery doesn't help, which happened to me with my previous phone.
My current phone can go several days without the need to charge if I don't use it heavily. If I don't use it much at all it might as well last a week.
You should download an app that counts and monitors your wakelocks. Some apps can identify which app stops your phone from going to sleepmode. And to be honest, you should really consider rooting your phone for this.
You can only monitor wakelocks through a rooted phone. And although i root my phones, i agree with linus. You shouldnt have to root it.
Sounds like one. I remember Note 1 I had, it would randomly kick kernel wakelock and run the processor at 200Hz all the time; about 10% battery drain per hour. A restart would help, until new random wakelock later. I remember running a monitor to identify a wakelock. I found forum posts online related to the same issue, my phone was not the only one. But some people reported no drain - for them it was working perfectly fine. People would report one or the other app to be the culprit, but uninstall wouldn't fix the problem for others. Really sounded like it is randomly activated on each affected phone. Finally, after about 1 year, the update was released and the problem vanished. As well as my wish to own another Samsung.
That's not true, my friend. You can use Wakelock Detector Lite. It is for non-rooted phones. You do need to use adb to grant permission to the battery usage, but WLD makes it easy, letting you use a chrome extension to give this permission in a few clicks.
@@betaleaf7719 Hey, I have an S9, i'll try this app, thx
This app is a way to go if phone is not rooted. But there are other like this app and permissions are granted whit adb.
Look in the Creator Settings, if you still have the problem. I did it and on my SAMSUNG Galaxy S5 the Battery hold about half an hour longer!
You just need to download more battery. 😬😬
But it costs like $20 unless you want to pirate more battery from some sketchy russian website on the dark web
You thought downloading RAM is cool? Now you can download *B A T T E R Y !*
he needs to download more cooling too
Why not just download a better phone while you're at it?
@@squaller9254 why not water cool it?
Its probs tunnel bear
Hahahahahahhah deadddd
Or maybe all that RGB
LTT dropped tunnel bear months ago. Their on PIA now.
TheNick540 *They're.
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First I would turn your phone to airplane mode. See if it still drains. If it does then that clears that up and what is left is CPU usage. You could uninstall all apps (inconvenience) and if that stops it then the answer is one or more apps is using CPU.
I make apps and it's easy to keep an app alive to do anything at any time without being killed by the OS or being reported in memory usage. So then to monitor CPU install something like System Monitor Lite to see what is hogging the CPU.Also, it could be your phone number is being monitored/compromised, that's easy to do. I would swap SIMs between the doner phone and yours and re-run the test.
Also to test if it is cell vs WiFi you could turn off cell and see if the battery changes. Then you can narrow it down to a very specific culprit.
linus try this
Also in terms of of power draw generally speaking this is the order of power hungry components on the phone from highest to lowest.
GPS
CPU
Cellular
WiFi
Screen
RAM
Speakers
BT
As it's doing it when idle and it's fast the eliminates everything except GPS, CPU Cellular and WiFi. Hence turning on airplane mode leaves only CPU as a viable reason (or actual faulty components).
Doesn't explain why another S9 with identical setup, (all same apps, all same settings and setup) as his, has 80% battery left when his dies...
it may actually, app CPU usage is going to be complicated, he should run that new Samsung as a DD for a few weeks and see if he can get it to drop similarly. More long term, I also wonder if it has to do with his battery cycle habits.
Apps can do what they want. Just because they are installed and signed in on another device doesn't make them act the same. The login token to the specific device could be compromised, the usage pattern may change, it could have been set on a timer to do stuff. Many variations are easily possible.
It is unlikely that if its an app it is of any use doing anything without internet, so Airplane mode will help narrow down the culprit. Also even without internet if the app is designed badly to crawl data and does simply `while (noInternet) { try to upload stuff... }` then it would be an infinite CPU-eating loop. Where if it was well designed it would go to sleep while no internet. So the test will again help narrow that down.
Finally, with Linus being popular, it is also very easy (anyone with 10k and google can do it) to hack into someones phone number and tap their phone, listen to their audio when not using the phone etc... This is a strong possibility. Different phones explain that method differently and I happen to know Samsungs way is more battery intensive than others. It also involves lots of power from cellular. Ever notice when you go through an airport how fast your battery drains...
I've updated my original answer with a few more of those suggestions too, like putting his SIM in the other phone and vice versa
I've owned a Galaxy S7 for about 2 years now, and shortly after I got it, I occasionally noticed that it was running very hot in my pocket. I could clear this up by rebooting the phone, but it seemed like a fairly messy way to deal with it. To get a handle on what was wrong, I turned to an app called SystemPanel, which allowed me to see the usage of each PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE processes, as well each core of the CPU in graphic format.
My S7 is the Canadian edition with the octa-core Exynos SOC with 4 low-power cores and 4 high-power cores. When the phone was running hot for no reason, I discovered that one of the high-power cores was pushed to 100% at full clock speed. If left running like this with the screen on, the phone would get so hot I couldn't really touch the back of it. Not surprisingly, battery consumption was conspicuous.
According to SystemPanel, none of the processes it was able to show me were responsible for the high CPU usage. The culprit was likely a protected O/S process, which after Android 6.0 could not be examined by apps such as SystemPanel, and so I had no way to know which one it was.
After a bit of experimentation, I found that this undesirable state occurred most often when my phone automatically switched away from WiFi after I left the house. Because it seemed to be related to connectivity, I discovered that putting the phone into Airplane Mode for a second or two would stop the runaway process. I also determined that turning off WiFi before I left the house would ensure the condition wouldn't return.
I'd always thought this was my fault, because I'd rooted the phone and I used a custom kernel in order to set SELinux mode to permissive (so that I could run Viper4Android). Based on what you presented in this video, it might be an issue with the Samsung fork of Android.
This isn't to say that this very problem is the one you are seeing. Try manually shutting down WiFi before you move out of range of WiFi to see if that mysteriously clears up the hot-phone issue for you. If the phone does start to run hot, try Airplane Mode for a second or two. Also, get an app like SystemPanel to see if the heat issue is a core running at max constantly.
I had a similar problem with my S7 edge a while ago. I used to wake up with 30% drain overnight on idle. I looked into the issue and installed Naptime, an app that with root access forces the phone to enter doze mode as soon as the screen is turned off. Surprisingly, I woke up one morning with only 2% overnight drain. Doze mode usually kicks in after the phone has been idle for a long time. I think there might be an issue with Samsung devices where something does not let the phone doze. I don't know what it is, or if I'm even right, but I would guess it should be some Samsung service. This requires further testing by installing a non TouchWiz custom ROM and then testing the battery drain. You could actually try that.
It's not as simple as it just being a Samsung service though, since it only happens on some units. What is interesting is that Linus' Samsung devices consistently do it though, which makes me wonder if Linus might unknowingly have some Samsung service set up that defaults to off and burns power, so on a phone without his specific Samsung account the phone runs fine, then when he sets it up for himself it switches on some extra service that burns battery.
That's because nobody uses iphone 6 7 or 8 anymore so all batteries across the world have zero battery drain.
@@rustinpeace770 Good for you. My Nokia 8 android phone looses 40% battery life in one day. And I'm a heavy user.
Same here : when i go to bed I put my s7 in airplane mode. 7hours later it has lost 15 to 20% ! I bought the phone in January so it's not even a year old ! I regularly check the maintenance page and battery usage but apparently there is no specific app draining the battery during the night, or the phone is unable to see ???
Right now i've uninstalled all the games I had. We'll see if that helps.
I had the same problem!
Uninstall the Facebook app. Use the Lite version instead. Facebook bypasses the android battery monitoring by using different processes, somehow....
any proof?
I don't think Linus uses Facebook. He has messenger but not Facebook. He talked about it on the WAN show before.
Its messenger too. It's crazy how much any fb made apps kill the battery. Try the app swift as a fb and messenger shell
But everyone who has that app and this issue isn't really heard of
I can vouch for this, I had Facebook messenger installed on my s4 and it absolutely screwed the battery whereas on the oppo r9s it had little to no effect
The Facebook app kills your battery for sure
Poatatasium Poatatogen PO2 but both phones probably have Facebook.
I am still waiting for answer to that. Did you find the problem? I can't figure what's going on. My s9+'s battary it's becoming worse day by day.
Is your wearable ( watch ) linked and constantly communicating with your Samsung s9
I had similar issue, Linus should check this
i thought it could be a bluetooth/looped (attempted) pairing issue with a nearby device
You know what that might be a good point. Linus has been known to use smartwatches a lot. Then again the time he left his personal phone to do the test it would not hava had an impact, as he would not be close to the phone for all that time.
Might have been hijacked by malware that makes your phone mine cryptocurrencies for somone else. Would explain the hot phone and battery drain
What a stretch l, is tht possible
Its this. Someone has his info and is targeting his stuff. He is getting mined.
Yeah thats what i thought
It's possible, there's been reports of multiple malware miners.
Yup I agree with you
I have this problem too, I thought it was all in my head because when I used my phone the battery seemed to go down normally.
I would love it if we find a cause and a solution for this problem.
I also have the same problem with my LG phone. There's some apps that cause that, so I need to find which app is that and force stop it after using it. It's really weird since the same app doesn't cause the same battery issue on other phones.
Im telling what linues says to samsung users for years and they still complain and tell me i tell lies xD
Just buy a poco phone F1. 4000mah battery, mine lasts for 3 days normal use and 15+ hours screen-on-time.
So sad that chinese brands show Apple and Samsung how to do it
Try to reformat your phone, I think it could be a virus that mine crypto
I didn't need to finish this video to help. I've had a lot of Note phones and now I'm on an S8 phone. My wife has had Android Nokia phones and is now on Huawei phone. Battery life is very inconstant. Especially as I've noticed OS Updates will kill my battery in hours but a patch a week later fixes that problem. The first thing I noticed was poor cell/wifi signal kills a battery. We both work in a factory, when our phones are 'Cell Live' with no signal, when we finish our shift, without touching our phones they are both dead. Put them on 'Airplane' mode, they're Ok. I think phones are programmed to find a signal 24/7 and If you have none, the phone will wear itself out trying to find a signal. Next, Apps. If you install about 30 apps (on average use), they all have an interconnection to the OS, especially (but not limited to) permissions. Even if an app is not open it will still communicate with the OS in the background to keep it ready for launch. I've noticed on many occasions, when I choose to uninstall a bunch of apps I've not used for a while, my battery gets better. I think this is because I'm off-loading some background work from the OS, which isn't apparent on the battery monitor. I think it's not apparent because, on the battery monitor it's under OS or Idle use percentage. I know your talking about Samsung specifically, but I think it's a Root issue in Android. Could you perform these exact experiments on laptops and get consistent results. I think they would be closer matched but still would have inconsistencies.
So as a battery guy, I would test and compare the actual battery capacity as it charges to find its mAh instead of concluding that they are exactly the same still. You can do that by using a usb power meter as it charges from 0% to 100% while off. You can also test its power usage while running with a power meter by counting the power used after the battery is fully charged, divide the mAh by the time tested for (in hours) and that will be its average power usage (in watts) during the entire testing time. These tests will let you be able to find out if it is quicker battery degradation or more average power usage versus these other speculation methods. Hope this helps.
There are apps that can give you the sensor readout too. Not sure if they require root or not
Better off doing a discharge capacity test, much more accurate.
On Samsung phones, you only need to install an app called "Phone Info" to know the real capacity of the battery as measured by the OS.
That would be pretty painful. The S9 has an Ip68 rating. As soon as you open it its not guaranteed to still have that water resitancy and the warranty is gone.
Kelly Clubb there could be a calibration issue so using the onboard sensor could give a false reading. Best to use an external one.
They can’t fix it because Linus dropped it.
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Goddammit samsung.
Several people are typing...
@@namonaite God fucking dammit samsung
@@playbad8683 you don't say... Millions of ppl are typing
Wow Linus actually cares for his viewers experience.He stopped right at 9:59 to prevent ads and he could’ve gotten so much money but he didn’t just for us.
BEST TH-camR EVER
Linus has covered this in WAN, that's not how his channels work. His ads are actually in the video such as dbrand this video, therefore he doesn't need to hit the 10 min mark
George Wilson yeah, he more or less has two ads in the video.
Well, because they are short and sweet, they dont really feel like ads, even though they obviously are. In fact, because they are not so obvious, they are almost like a subliminal message, secretly gettiing you to buy their shit without realizing why you want to buy it.
Ad of Samsung! Sure, if you're not one of the lucky ones like Linus here!
CrazyPOCO LOCO I got a five second ad at the start of the video so...
I had the same issue with my Samsung S6 edge. The weird thing was that if I charge it to 100% at night 11pm and don't use it, it will reach 15% in the morning 5:30am but at the same time I can watch 4 hours of TH-cam just with 20% before it reaches zero and turn off. PS the wifi, location, Bluetooth etc were turned off at night
You couldn't add an extra second to the video,couldn't you?
1 more second and he could use as mouch advertisements as he would like
I think its great that its not 10min
Fritz Walmrath that's why he said it...
edutz Duman, Double negative?
They don't use youtubes midroll adds anyway, so it doesn't matter if their video is over 10 minutes or not
He doesn't need to, adrevenue is peanuts and every video is sponsored.
Clear the cache partition , I had the exact same problem out of the box. Then switch off background usage for android system.
I went from getting half a day to getting around almost 2 days with 3 hours SOT. Using an S9 128G btw if you're wondering. Your phone should cycle through 3 charge cycles before you start seeing significant results. MAKE THIS COMMENT REACH LINUS! EDIT : I formatted the phone and installed all the stuff from scratch don't click on import settings and shit form your google account.
I HAVE THE SOLUTION! D-Bag
No one wants to turn off background usage. You could do a million things to save battery, but it is 2018 and we should be able to have all the bells and whistles. The proof is they compared it to other S9's
I have an idea, Just turn the phone off when you are not using it and turn it back on to check messages or go to a webpage. I do this and my phone last 12 days on 1 charge! SEND TO LINUS!
They just need a "Tech Mythbusters" Segment Sponsored by Dyson so they can put in the time and budget to do actual testing of electronics.
@@swaterman08 12 days on one charge my ass. Linus most likely uses his phone quite a bit judging by his job, so he wouldn't be able to have it off as often as you might.
@@vipvap_ He was being sarcastic...
@@swaterman08 booting takes a shit ton of processing power therefore draining the battery so if your talking about powering on and off the device every time you need it your looking at stupid slow battery life, take it from an IT student it's not smart
Hexoren Or don't buy an inferior, less customisable phone
Major issue with your testing method... New phone has seen zero usage. Just leaving it there too run idled means nothing. Your daily phone has certain services running in the background from the apps the system knows you use often. The new phone is just there. I have a Note 8, and even on my heaviest usage days, I'll end with between 40-50% battery. I've taken the time to go app by app to disable background usage on those apps that have zero reason to run in background. I also disable background data usage on apps I felt really didn't need to function at all unless I'm actively using it (like shopping apps such as Home Dept, Macy's, etc). The fact you have Facebook services running already tells me why yours runs hot and dies it early. Facebook has always been a battery killer. Disable it completely (uninstall it even), and then see how battery life is.
I have noticed it too Facebook drains battery fast.
But they used the two different daily drivers, at this point it's the way linus uses his phone
Facebook's Messenger app is even worse.
Wonder why Facebook drains so much battery. Maybe because its a CIA controlled app spying on everything you do :P Making a voice map of you and your close contacts.
@@melkorrealmz4526 telemetry updates being constant is definitely one of the issues.
I gotta say, that's incredibly relate-able. Something working perfectly fine for everyone else and should be working fine for you but for some inconceivable reason it just won't.