@@onlyfoolriding8223 That's just to make it easy to demonstrate moving through the travel. It's not like there's extra travel when you take the air out, it's the same effect as if you bottom out when it's filled properly.
@@onlyfoolriding8223 That was to show how close the tire comes to the battery when it's fully pushed in. Letting the air out was just so he could show how close it gets on the bench without compressing the suspension by hand.
Well as long as he tested the battery first, and made sure his soldering job was good, then in theory no issue, he only messed with at first what seemed like one expensive battery, but he solves this by getting cheap amazon knockoffs. WIN! And he didn't fry the $800 dropper, but if it ever plays up, there won't be any warranty, because SRAM has seen his video lol
I'm pretty sure he was gifted the dropper along with his new bike. And besides, dude makes hundreds of thousands a year from his TH-cam videos and Patreon donations, so worst case scenario, he could buy a new one without even feeling a twinge in his wallet.
Believe me, he is not the only person in the world, doing sometimes stupid modifications, that completely destroy the value of the part they are using, sometimes an expensive part at that, and often those modifications don't even make sense, at least he takes some effort for looks, unlike some (unlike me 🤣 )
I just bought an ender for 100 bucks. Within a month I had made enough little doodads and stuff that I would’ve paid 10 bucks a pop off Amazon for that I’ve pretty much paid for it. They are so easy to run.
That was intense, the emotional involvement. I feel you, stuff like that has happened to me a lot. Thanks for showing us that hacks can go wrong, and may end up frustrating you. That's part of tinkering with stuff, but usually failure means learning. Maybe you'll wake up one morning with a perfect solution for this. Then, the feeling of accomplishment will be even greater than the current frustration.
I just bought my first mountain bike (I'm 48 in my teen years in the late 80s early 90s i raced BMX poorly but raced) i haven't regularly ridden in 20 plus years. I bought an e-bike only 500w but it gets me up and down the Smoky mountains (I'm your neighbor near Gatlinburg TN) I spent $839.48 for my ebike I can't fathom spending $800 on a seat!!! I can't wait to look back a few years from now and see if my attitude about that changes! Lol awesome job man!!! I have already learned and relearned so much watching your channels, you ROCK MAN!!! Thank you!!
Combine both of your solutions - turn seatpost around AND use that adaptor - in that way you can't hit it with tire AND you can still make bigger family 🙂
This is exactly what I was thinking. Also I believe he should purposely put a weaker connector so that if the battery ever falls or gets yanked out said connector will just disconnect instead of ripping the tin work
This is the first time someone has been truthful with a axs dropper. Everyone else, it's perfect just perfect. Thank you Seth. One-up components for the win. Stick with the basics
Wouldn't this be bike specific? He rides a small frame which puts those components closer to the tire where a medium frame probably doesn't even come close. And it may also be just this specific bikes geometry causing the issue. He's had this dropper for some time now, on other bikes, and we never heard of this issue. So yeah, to everyone else the dropper post is likely perfect.
@@silver_c1oud For you it's not perfect and is overrated, for many others it is indeed perfect for their needs. But hey, the world revolves around you, right?
I approve of the remote battery hack! I know Seth ended up just hacking off the seat post, but for anyone else: make sure the battery has some Armor against meteorites flying off the rear tire. If you pierce a flat battery pack they do tend to shoot flames.
Seth, SRAM should send you a check for doing their R&D, or at minimum, a new post, free of charge, when they inevitably take inspiration from what you just did!
Nah ... they just need to fire the 12 yearold iditos they hired for R&D and actually hire qualified people + a Q/A deprtment of MTB enthusiasts that know how to rbeak shit before it hits the market. A wireless dropper post is a solution looking for a problem. Clears up clutter - but adds the weight of a battery pack (or 2 since the handlebar switch also needs power).
This video was pure gold start to finish. From the time it took to go from sane to hack saw was about the time of my patience level. Totally relatable!
So, I'm someone who is fresh to the mountain biking community. It's cool as hell to see the accessories you can get for a bike now of days. You can honestly build awesome little machines out of them these days. That bike Seth has setup is a piece of machinery in itself, I love watching his videos and learning something new every time. He made me a master of fixing my Walmart bikes for my nieces and Nephews lol
Poor guy. His dropper post needs fixed. This is such a first world problem, but I feel you, Seth. You the mang!! Keep killing it with the great content!!
"For the 6 of you that have this problem as well." - Im dying. I love you Berm Peak. Im just a casual rider and I cant cant enough of your problem videos even though I will probably never experience them lol.
Amen, I just ordered a new road bike with "outdated" mechanical Ultegra for $4000. Di2 Ultegra is $1400 more and even Di2 105 is $500 more than regular Ultegra!
To be fair, the newer products are always at a premium to cover the design costs and low production numbers. Unless you want the newest thing out, it’s better to wait for the price to get slashed by 50%
Love the video!!! They do make slim profile batteries I found them on Amazon and they are pretty much the same and I have been using them for a few months now and no issues I think a 2 pack go for 35 bucks
I work an an Industrial Automation Electrician, and I can say confidently, that things being unnecessarily automated or electronically controlled, is hardly ever better. BUT it keeps jobs around for me, because people continue to do it, and it always fails! 😂
@end I understand that, but the point I was making was… is removing a simple, and reliable cable for an expensive, bulky, and battery powered part that requires charging really worth it? In Seth’s case, it looks like it created a bigger problem than any problems or nuisances it may have solved.
So relatable! First couple setbacks I read the manual and watch videos. Next thing I know is I'm hammering some part mangled by an old washing machine clamp because my DIY tool I built from car parts and random shop junk failed me. Annoyingly enough, I usually buy the proprietary tool the next day and it all goes extremely smoothly from there...
I love that you make everything as relatable as possible but I cant help but start the '3D printer' chant!! This would definitely be the perfect project for it!
Haven't we all been there... re-engineering something and hoping that it will work? As I get older I find that what worked for me for years my "kids" (now adults) break. When I asked my oldest he said "I thought anything you did would be built proof." Can't even get mad when you are getting a complement.
There's just no way. I wish people wouldn't pay outrageous prices for things just to say they have it. So it's worth 600 dollars to not have a cable but have to keep up with a battery?...I can't see it. That being said love the channel keep up the good work!
Its the early adopter fee. Any new tech always costs more because its not mass produced. I already think 200 for a dropper is crazy cuz its just a hydrolic tube but theyre way cheaper than when they were first released
The early adopters will happily pay a lot of money for the new tech. Normal people like us will benefit from them paying “outrageous” prices when the product first hits the market, because the early adopters make the product market viable and the manufacturer then increases production, and other companies take note and make their own versions… all of which leads to lower prices. If nobody bought these AXS droppers now the tech would probably die and never take off.
You could 3d print a super thin plate to connect the seat post terminals to the battery, or you could solder wires to the terminals then run them to the location of the taped battery which would be even slimmer than the printed plate.
The background in automobile electronics definitely has given you some helpful insight and confidence in this. I had an idea I wanted to put out there for people that have more time and money than I do... But check this idea out... a pressure sensor that is built into the seat that will know when you sit on it...it needs to be in its raised position...and when you get off the seat...the relay will click knowing it should drop and get out of the way... Similar to electronics in a power car seat...one could determine the settings where you want the stops to be at for the upper and lower position. Would this be a good idea?
To be critical of your great idea - as you are pedaling along seated and want to stand for a quick sprint or gain some advantage over jank, then want to sit and resume seated powering on, the seat would be dropped and need to be popped back up. There is another bit of ingenuity needed to solve this . I like it. Push the lever before you stand to bypass the seat drop feature. Stand to drop the post. You have something there love it
Nobody can stop you. You are at the peak of your creativity. And, oh please, change the angle of that seat. We want to celebrate with you for a baby boy!
So now SRAM will redesign the whole post then send Seth a bunch of them to use on all his bikes so all his followers go out and buy the newly designed post, it's a win for Seth and SRAM.
That adapter looks so good. It looks like you bought it. Congratulations man. You did an amazing job. Making it look like you got it from a store is (for me at least) the hallmark of good diy. Too bad it didn't work 😕.
Sorta glad you went with the hacksaw approach, as I'd rather prefer you having an uncomfortable seat than a LiPo going off right underneath your crown jewels. Just saying, those things are evil and don't like getting cut up or wet.
@simrock: you said "those things are evil and don't like getting cut up or wet" right after mentioning his crown jewels. I lol'd at the 'image' that resulted.
I'm sure out of the 300k+ (will probably be double that next week) at least a handful of people are at work right now building a solution to send to Seth ... Amazing for as long as he's been doing it, he continues to be at the forefront of new ideas.
I feel you pain - 5’6” with a 29” inseam. Droppers have been the Bain of my existence, 29ers even more so. Not from a riding perspective but continually buzzing my butt when landing jumps. I now just keep to 27.5
Man I've been on the fence for getting with those for a while. I did the axs shifters and absolutely love them. Really tough to swallow $800 for a seat post.
The people here locally LOVE that post, and have stated that they would forego the drivetrain for the post if given a choice of one or the other. I don't know anyone who has one and has said anything negative about it.
As a lifelong guitar player and guitar, pedal and amp builder/modder for about 10-15 years this episode was right up my alley. I'm constantly making DC power supply's to get rid of active pickup 9v batteries and adding power supply's to lighting etc etc etc. If it has an electric pulse of any kind and can be improved in some way it WILL meet my soldering iron and I WILL get way too excited and post on Marshall amp forum about my brilliant idea after having proven it works and is indeed an improvement lol. When Seth said "for the six of you who have this problem as well" I couldnt help but feel relieved since I'm not the only one who gets excited about solving problems that only a very small amount of people actually have and even smaller amount have and care enough to fix it. Edit: EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS VIDEO IS RELATABLE! Loosing your temper and working frustrated is always a guaranteed way to become more frustrated lol. Yet I still do it....regularly....
Got the same post and I agree, the best dropper post I also ever owned. I live the ability to switch between my fatbike for winter and my full suspension in summer in a breeze!
I think you need some form of overdischarge protection, or the batteries will be single use. Unless that's built in to the post of course.. Something to think about!
I have spent approximately 800 to update a “free” 2014 Hardrock. New Markhor fork (old SR coil fork was shot) a complete XT 1x12 speed drivetrain, new cockpit, new PNW dropper. Your 800 spent on just a dropper makes me feel a lot better about my spending on this project. :)
You should be fine with a higher stack saddle. I haven’t found AXS Reverbs to be that reliable personally, and there’s an unacceptable amount of side to side bushing play for something so expensive. The only real upsides are the lack of a cable and how easy it is to make small adjustments to the amount of drop. I’m running a BikeYoke Revive with a PNW lever now and it’s a lot nicer than the Reverb…plus I can run a post with more drop in my frame than I can with the AXS Reverb. I like AXS shifting a lot but the seatpost is a bit overhyped in my opinion. 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks Seth for going the extra mile. I ride a size small and go for a 150mm dropper so pointing out that flaw does highlight the cons since I'm considering getting one. As for your battery hack, I think you can get away with replicating the pads with a PCB and 3d printing the rest including a separate enclosure for your battery that is secured to your seat instead of the dual-lock.
I have a Rail size small and have lost 2 batteries so far because of wheel contact. It’s only happened on the absolute biggest hits but still frustrating
Your video just induced that familiar feeling of putting your best effort into a really nice hack and having it fail the first time you use it. I thought for sure the second plan would work too. Funny enough, my version of commit would have been to either solder directly to the battery terminals or to crack open the case on the controller and fish a wire out. Your version of commit is probably better.
I have this exact same problem when g-ing out. Love this dropper, but really hope SRAM moves or redesigns the battery on v2. Had to raise my seat to keep it from happening.
Seth since we loss warranty, stick the battery adapter directly on the seatpost without the extra plastic part you add in order to look good. It will be water proof and you will use the battery clip to charge it. make a small U cut on the top and put the cables to protect them from tyre scratching.
Seth there are seats out there that have higher rails and in all honesty the dropper post looks waayy better facing forward and hidden under the rails.👍all said and done there really isn't much a choice, you did the right thing imo👏 excellent stuff.
Agreed! It’s a crazy expensive dropper, but I love mine. Luckily I don’t have the issue of the battery hitting. I did think the battery relocation was genius! Too bad it didn’t work out
You had me laughing so hard. I loved watching this process and can totally identify with you. Thanks for bringing up an issue with the wireless droppers. I have been thinking of getting one at some point. Hopefully this will get reengineered before I pull the trigger!
I've known about this problem since last year. I can't believe companies release a product like this without testing it first, it's a pretty basic flaw. I have 2 friends who regularly knock the battery off with their rear tire when bottoming out. WTF.
My only concern is that the LiPo (which I recognize as being from an SCX24 if I'm not mistaken, and is a 2-cell battery) will either a) become unbalanced over time, and b) will over-discharge beyond repair, since there's no speed controller with low voltage protection. If you added a low-voltage alarm to the balance connector, it would beep when voltage dropped too low, so you would know to recharge it. That would work.
Pretty cool, I love hacks like this! But please be super careful when hacking into LiPo/LiIon Batteries. If damaged they burst into flames very violently. This better be done outside with nothing flamable around.
Fun video but this illustrates the silliness of some wireless bike components. In the quest to eliminate one tiny dropper post cable we now have battery packs, worse form factors, and the always perfectly reliable Bluetooth connections to deal with. Sometimes it's just better to keep things simple.
I've seen other people complaining that their saddle would hit the wheel if they used a dropper too low (and long). Not a problem for me, a hardtail (poor) rider.
As a fellow short guy on small frames I feel your pain with droppers. Even with normal droppers often the bends in the seat tubes make it hard to run much more than a 125mm dropper on the smalls and get the right seat height.
Seth, use your battery relocation hack under the saddle but attach a small smooth sheet metal plate to the saddle rails behind the connector you built. That way the tire contacts the smooth metal rather than the connector. For strength you may have to span from the saddle rails to the seat post shaft so you don’t rip the metal sheet off.
As with all new to market products the manufacturer will hold some features/design back for v2.0, v3.0 etc. I bet they already have this sorted in the pipeline for the next version, to make us buy the new one! Also, I don’t understand why they don’t combine the post control into the shifter, that would get the cockpit even cleaner. Maybe that’s coming! Love the vids 👍🏻!
This is the EXACT same problem I have had since 3 years now ! An I've even done the same alternatives to resolve :) (without ripping the micro adjustment thingy). Hah so cool to see I'm not the only one with this issue. The solution is, when you go out, just duck tape the battery around the post :) , simple, ugly, stupid...but it works. After chasing down the battery back the trail path, you get over the looks and stupidness of the solution
The escalation from calm to hacksaw was faster than I expected
Hack saw is plan B, Oxyaxcytelene is I'm not asking anything 🤣
ability to have kids? OVERRATED.
HACK. THAT. SEATPOST!!!
@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ take your invisible friend somewhere else...
That escalated quickly.
@@cavemanvi based
The part where you said “I know you don’t feel bad” and “the six of you that have this problem as well” were golden dude
For a $800 accessory, that's a major design flaw. Hopefully the manufacturers are taking note
should have just engineered it into the seatpost somehow, I'm not big brained enough to find a good way to do that but still
I mean, he literally let all the air out of his shock. When is he going to do that?
I hated the design from day one, it looks like a single giant testicle hanging in the back! Uh!
@@onlyfoolriding8223 That's just to make it easy to demonstrate moving through the travel. It's not like there's extra travel when you take the air out, it's the same effect as if you bottom out when it's filled properly.
@@onlyfoolriding8223 That was to show how close the tire comes to the battery when it's fully pushed in. Letting the air out was just so he could show how close it gets on the bench without compressing the suspension by hand.
This is amazing. "The 6 of you" joke was perfectly delivered, but I also love seeing the reverse engineering that went into this.
Only Seth would mess with a $800 dropper post😂 Your content is great Seth, keep it up!
Well as long as he tested the battery first, and made sure his soldering job was good, then in theory no issue, he only messed with at first what seemed like one expensive battery, but he solves this by getting cheap amazon knockoffs. WIN! And he didn't fry the $800 dropper, but if it ever plays up, there won't be any warranty, because SRAM has seen his video lol
Seth doesn’t have to pay retail either and even if he did, $800 is a pittance in comparison to how much money he’s going to make off this video.
I'm pretty sure he was gifted the dropper along with his new bike. And besides, dude makes hundreds of thousands a year from his TH-cam videos and Patreon donations, so worst case scenario, he could buy a new one without even feeling a twinge in his wallet.
Believe me, he is not the only person in the world, doing sometimes stupid modifications, that completely destroy the value of the part they are using, sometimes an expensive part at that, and often those modifications don't even make sense, at least he takes some effort for looks, unlike some (unlike me 🤣 )
@@thisishowiedewitt76 he got the bike for free he probably got the dropper for free too.
Seth is literally me working on a bike I mess one thing up and then a next until the part is broken. But Seth is also a great bike mechanic.
If there was ever a project to justify adding a 3D printer to your "tool box", I think this was it.
This ^^^
Justyfying is for kids, adults buy 3D printer as a toy 🙂
@@tri-seeker2753 A decent 3D printer is far more than a toy.
I just bought an ender for 100 bucks. Within a month I had made enough little doodads and stuff that I would’ve paid 10 bucks a pop off Amazon for that I’ve pretty much paid for it. They are so easy to run.
@@beno9966 a decent 3D printer is a tool as much as it is a toy :)
That was intense, the emotional involvement. I feel you, stuff like that has happened to me a lot. Thanks for showing us that hacks can go wrong, and may end up frustrating you. That's part of tinkering with stuff, but usually failure means learning. Maybe you'll wake up one morning with a perfect solution for this. Then, the feeling of accomplishment will be even greater than the current frustration.
love seeing these kind of videos where you apply non-bike knowledge to problems like this one,
greetings from chile!
Santiago Chile here. Originally from Kansas
Oh sick! I just skied Valle Nevado and El Colorado a few days ago 🤙
I just bought my first mountain bike (I'm 48 in my teen years in the late 80s early 90s i raced BMX poorly but raced) i haven't regularly ridden in 20 plus years. I bought an e-bike only 500w but it gets me up and down the Smoky mountains (I'm your neighbor near Gatlinburg TN) I spent $839.48 for my ebike I can't fathom spending $800 on a seat!!! I can't wait to look back a few years from now and see if my attitude about that changes! Lol awesome job man!!! I have already learned and relearned so much watching your channels, you ROCK MAN!!! Thank you!!
DM!!! Lol
I think Rockshox should pay Seth for giving them an idea to make their wireless dropper post better.
That’s sram
@@EstebanGonzalez-mo2bw same company
Include a hacksaw with the dropper? 😉
@@EstebanGonzalez-mo2bw It's the same company, and it's literally a *RockShox* Reverb.
Combine both of your solutions - turn seatpost around AND use that adaptor - in that way you can't hit it with tire AND you can still make bigger family 🙂
This is exactly what I was thinking. Also I believe he should purposely put a weaker connector so that if the battery ever falls or gets yanked out said connector will just disconnect instead of ripping the tin work
What about just putting a saddle on that has taller rails? Less change = easy.
@@craigsawyer6453 it surely would be worth looking into it, but I'm not sure if thy make them already
I don't think it was the battery that was impacting the seat or he would have done that.
@@beno9966 it was the battery
This is the first time someone has been truthful with a axs dropper. Everyone else, it's perfect just perfect. Thank you Seth. One-up components for the win. Stick with the basics
And it's heavy asf
Wouldn't this be bike specific? He rides a small frame which puts those components closer to the tire where a medium frame probably doesn't even come close. And it may also be just this specific bikes geometry causing the issue. He's had this dropper for some time now, on other bikes, and we never heard of this issue. So yeah, to everyone else the dropper post is likely perfect.
@@MotoAtheist its not perfect and its overrated.
period.
@@silver_c1oud .period. dot...dot...dot..., you see what I mean?
@@silver_c1oud For you it's not perfect and is overrated, for many others it is indeed perfect for their needs. But hey, the world revolves around you, right?
I approve of the remote battery hack! I know Seth ended up just hacking off the seat post, but for anyone else: make sure the battery has some Armor against meteorites flying off the rear tire. If you pierce a flat battery pack they do tend to shoot flames.
6 years ago he had a basic hard-tail and he didn't want more. Look at him now😁
Been a while since I’ve seen spoderman
Ya dude that’s true
you’re right
That's what happens as your skills grow, no harm in trying different disciplines but an 800 dollar dropper post is a joke.
Materialism
Seth, SRAM should send you a check for doing their R&D, or at minimum, a new post, free of charge, when they inevitably take inspiration from what you just did!
Nah ... they just need to fire the 12 yearold iditos they hired for R&D and actually hire qualified people + a Q/A deprtment of MTB enthusiasts that know how to rbeak shit before it hits the market. A wireless dropper post is a solution looking for a problem. Clears up clutter - but adds the weight of a battery pack (or 2 since the handlebar switch also needs power).
This video was pure gold start to finish. From the time it took to go from sane to hack saw was about the time of my patience level. Totally relatable!
So, I'm someone who is fresh to the mountain biking community. It's cool as hell to see the accessories you can get for a bike now of days. You can honestly build awesome little machines out of them these days. That bike Seth has setup is a piece of machinery in itself, I love watching his videos and learning something new every time. He made me a master of fixing my Walmart bikes for my nieces and Nephews lol
Am I the only one hear who doesn't mountain bike.... but watches everyday video. This man is an enabler to me when I do DIY projects. Love ya Seth 🤙🏽
Yes you are, now go buy a mountain bike and create memories
You're the only one ))), so go get a MTB and join the club.
@@lazariusmtb can confirm you're opinion is valid
No you’re not. I love watching his videos.
Poor guy. His dropper post needs fixed. This is such a first world problem, but I feel you, Seth. You the mang!! Keep killing it with the great content!!
"For the 6 of you that have this problem as well." - Im dying. I love you Berm Peak. Im just a casual rider and I cant cant enough of your problem videos even though I will probably never experience them lol.
I feel like the biking industry is the only industry that tries to justify a 4x mark up on a part because it's wireless.
Good example is mice, anywhere from 50 to 100%. Dropper post? 400%. Pretty sure the techs the same.
@@godking9027 Economies of scale don't really favor low-demand, high complexity stuff like wireless dropper posts.
Amen, I just ordered a new road bike with "outdated" mechanical Ultegra for $4000. Di2 Ultegra is $1400 more and even Di2 105 is $500 more than regular Ultegra!
They justify a markup because it's a hobby for rich people. We have $90 MTB tires that aren't anything special other than their own "branding"
To be fair, the newer products are always at a premium to cover the design costs and low production numbers. Unless you want the newest thing out, it’s better to wait for the price to get slashed by 50%
This is why I started watching Seth's bike hacks back in the day I love this type of content
Love the video!!! They do make slim profile batteries I found them on Amazon and they are pretty much the same and I have been using them for a few months now and no issues I think a 2 pack go for 35 bucks
I love this, so many times I've been down similar roads in my workshop. I feel you Seth.
I work an an Industrial Automation Electrician, and I can say confidently, that things being unnecessarily automated or electronically controlled, is hardly ever better. BUT it keeps jobs around for me, because people continue to do it, and it always fails! 😂
@end I understand that, but the point I was making was… is removing a simple, and reliable cable for an expensive, bulky, and battery powered part that requires charging really worth it? In Seth’s case, it looks like it created a bigger problem than any problems or nuisances it may have solved.
This was absolutely genius. Sums up everything I love about this channel in a single video.
Love it, "For the six of you that have this problem..." Great video, as always!
So relatable! First couple setbacks I read the manual and watch videos. Next thing I know is I'm hammering some part mangled by an old washing machine clamp because my DIY tool I built from car parts and random shop junk failed me. Annoyingly enough, I usually buy the proprietary tool the next day and it all goes extremely smoothly from there...
I love that you make everything as relatable as possible but I cant help but start the '3D printer' chant!! This would definitely be the perfect project for it!
Haven't we all been there... re-engineering something and hoping that it will work? As I get older I find that what worked for me for years my "kids" (now adults) break. When I asked my oldest he said "I thought anything you did would be built proof." Can't even get mad when you are getting a complement.
There's just no way. I wish people wouldn't pay outrageous prices for things just to say they have it. So it's worth 600 dollars to not have a cable but have to keep up with a battery?...I can't see it. That being said love the channel keep up the good work!
Its the early adopter fee. Any new tech always costs more because its not mass produced. I already think 200 for a dropper is crazy cuz its just a hydrolic tube but theyre way cheaper than when they were first released
The early adopters will happily pay a lot of money for the new tech. Normal people like us will benefit from them paying “outrageous” prices when the product first hits the market, because the early adopters make the product market viable and the manufacturer then increases production, and other companies take note and make their own versions… all of which leads to lower prices. If nobody bought these AXS droppers now the tech would probably die and never take off.
You're as good as it gets man. Always entertaining and useful.
You could 3d print a super thin plate to connect the seat post terminals to the battery, or you could solder wires to the terminals then run them to the location of the taped battery which would be even slimmer than the printed plate.
Exactly. Even better he can print a bumper for the Ergon saddle so that the saddle makes the first contact, not the slim adapter.
3d printers suck
@@silentminority2342 quite the opposite actually, they squeeze material out
@@silentminority2342 cope harder, you're just mad people can make self-defense "tools" with them
I like that you went straight into hacking it to pieces instead of getting longer seat rail clamps made for the thing
The background in automobile electronics definitely has given you some helpful insight and confidence in this.
I had an idea I wanted to put out there for people that have more time and money than I do...
But check this idea out... a pressure sensor that is built into the seat that will know when you sit on it...it needs to be in its raised position...and when you get off the seat...the relay will click knowing it should drop and get out of the way...
Similar to electronics in a power car seat...one could determine the settings where you want the stops to be at for the upper and lower position. Would this be a good idea?
wont be a bad idea for shure! 10/10.
To be critical of your great idea - as you are pedaling along seated and want to stand for a quick sprint or gain some advantage over jank, then want to sit and resume seated powering on, the seat would be dropped and need to be popped back up. There is another bit of ingenuity needed to solve this . I like it. Push the lever before you stand to bypass the seat drop feature. Stand to drop the post. You have something there love it
Build it and they will buy….
That sounds a lot like a hospital flip assistant if you ask me
You have to squat every time you want to sit in. Horrible idea.
Nobody can stop you. You are at the peak of your creativity. And, oh please, change the angle of that seat. We want to celebrate with you for a baby boy!
So now SRAM will redesign the whole post then send Seth a bunch of them to use on all his bikes so all his followers go out and buy the newly designed post, it's a win for Seth and SRAM.
Yep. It would be a huge PR win for SRAM to hop into this chat with a meaningful response.
That adapter looks so good. It looks like you bought it. Congratulations man. You did an amazing job. Making it look like you got it from a store is (for me at least) the hallmark of good diy. Too bad it didn't work 😕.
Sorta glad you went with the hacksaw approach, as I'd rather prefer you having an uncomfortable seat than a LiPo going off right underneath your crown jewels.
Just saying, those things are evil and don't like getting cut up or wet.
Yeah was hoping it would be in a sealed container that can be easily swapped other than a double-sided tape but lol where's the fun in that? lol
@simrock: you said "those things are evil and don't like getting cut up or wet" right after mentioning his crown jewels. I lol'd at the 'image' that resulted.
You are a mad genius when it comes to making things more streamline
Today were gonna do something diffrent, but kind of the same
I was so impressed with how you engineered a solution to a problem and I felt your pain when it didn't work.
He will have 10 new dropper posts arrive at his house in the next 5 days, all for free.
Thats what I call marketing
I'm sure out of the 300k+ (will probably be double that next week) at least a handful of people are at work right now building a solution to send to Seth ... Amazing for as long as he's been doing it, he continues to be at the forefront of new ideas.
I feel you pain - 5’6” with a 29” inseam. Droppers have been the Bain of my existence, 29ers even more so. Not from a riding perspective but continually buzzing my butt when landing jumps. I now just keep to 27.5
Man I've been on the fence for getting with those for a while. I did the axs shifters and absolutely love them. Really tough to swallow $800 for a seat post.
The people here locally LOVE that post, and have stated that they would forego the drivetrain for the post if given a choice of one or the other. I don't know anyone who has one and has said anything negative about it.
As a lifelong guitar player and guitar, pedal and amp builder/modder for about 10-15 years this episode was right up my alley. I'm constantly making DC power supply's to get rid of active pickup 9v batteries and adding power supply's to lighting etc etc etc. If it has an electric pulse of any kind and can be improved in some way it WILL meet my soldering iron and I WILL get way too excited and post on Marshall amp forum about my brilliant idea after having proven it works and is indeed an improvement lol. When Seth said "for the six of you who have this problem as well" I couldnt help but feel relieved since I'm not the only one who gets excited about solving problems that only a very small amount of people actually have and even smaller amount have and care enough to fix it.
Edit: EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS VIDEO IS RELATABLE! Loosing your temper and working frustrated is always a guaranteed way to become more frustrated lol. Yet I still do it....regularly....
Open the actuator body and solder to the inside of the connections, then just a blank plate to cover where the battery used to be.
This is what I thought was going to be the first attempt.
Got the same post and I agree, the best dropper post I also ever owned. I live the ability to switch between my fatbike for winter and my full suspension in summer in a breeze!
I think you need some form of overdischarge protection, or the batteries will be single use. Unless that's built in to the post of course..
Something to think about!
Many battery packs have that built in. Much easier to use a cell like that than to put it into the post.
I have spent approximately 800 to update a “free” 2014 Hardrock. New Markhor fork (old SR coil fork was shot) a complete XT 1x12 speed drivetrain, new cockpit, new PNW dropper. Your 800 spent on just a dropper makes me feel a lot better about my spending on this project. :)
You should be fine with a higher stack saddle. I haven’t found AXS Reverbs to be that reliable personally, and there’s an unacceptable amount of side to side bushing play for something so expensive. The only real upsides are the lack of a cable and how easy it is to make small adjustments to the amount of drop. I’m running a BikeYoke Revive with a PNW lever now and it’s a lot nicer than the Reverb…plus I can run a post with more drop in my frame than I can with the AXS Reverb. I like AXS shifting a lot but the seatpost is a bit overhyped in my opinion. 🤷🏻♂️
I got it working with a WTB volt!
Seth's car audio days still paying off! Pretty damn impressive!
That seems like a lot of work just to avoid having a wired dropper post.
I love how real you are in this video thanks for posting
Shame seth didn't stick with the lipo battery solution, would have doubled up as a seat heater in the wet too 💥🔥
Or a minibomb for his jewels. Lol
Now that's a new meaning to bombing down the trails.
This channel has come so far. Look at us learning about basic DC circuits and soldering!
Thanks Seth for going the extra mile. I ride a size small and go for a 150mm dropper so pointing out that flaw does highlight the cons since I'm considering getting one. As for your battery hack, I think you can get away with replicating the pads with a PCB and 3d printing the rest including a separate enclosure for your battery that is secured to your seat instead of the dual-lock.
I have a Rail size small and have lost 2 batteries so far because of wheel contact. It’s only happened on the absolute biggest hits but still frustrating
Lol at first I wondered where you got your soldering and wiring knowledge then it hit me. RC. Good job dude seriously
That is a most excellent mod. I love my AXS dropper, crazy money but sooooo convenient and tidy.
Your video just induced that familiar feeling of putting your best effort into a really nice hack and having it fail the first time you use it. I thought for sure the second plan would work too.
Funny enough, my version of commit would have been to either solder directly to the battery terminals or to crack open the case on the controller and fish a wire out. Your version of commit is probably better.
PLS DO A PART 2 IN WHICH YOU TOTALLY MAKE IT WERK .. WITH THE SEAT BEING ZERO HUMPS... TNX SETH REALLY ENJOYED IT!
I have this exact same problem when g-ing out. Love this dropper, but really hope SRAM moves or redesigns the battery on v2. Had to raise my seat to keep it from happening.
I am so happy you lost your temper and went full commit. Great content.
Seth since we loss warranty, stick the battery adapter directly on the seatpost without the extra plastic part you add in order to look good. It will be water proof and you will use the battery clip to charge it. make a small U cut on the top and put the cables to protect them from tyre scratching.
This was super cool Seth! You definitely need to do more videos like this!!!
Seth there are seats out there that have higher rails and in all honesty the dropper post looks waayy better facing forward and hidden under the rails.👍all said and done there really isn't much a choice, you did the right thing imo👏 excellent stuff.
I was happy when he said let's hack it 🤣 thats how he got where he is today love it man keep it up 🤙
While I know the end goal didn’t happen the way you wanted, I’m still insanely impressed with how you got there. Your intelligence is way beyond most
Agreed! It’s a crazy expensive dropper, but I love mine. Luckily I don’t have the issue of the battery hitting. I did think the battery relocation was genius! Too bad it didn’t work out
You had me laughing so hard. I loved watching this process and can totally identify with you. Thanks for bringing up an issue with the wireless droppers. I have been thinking of getting one at some point. Hopefully this will get reengineered before I pull the trigger!
I've known about this problem since last year. I can't believe companies release a product like this without testing it first, it's a pretty basic flaw. I have 2 friends who regularly knock the battery off with their rear tire when bottoming out. WTF.
0:23 sounds Exactly like Joe barbaro from Mafia II - I also love when Seth mentions the "Goods"
Great video Seth! I love the simple solution to a unique problem
this probably only happens on a SMALL size bike. But the solution was absolutely brilliant.
My only concern is that the LiPo (which I recognize as being from an SCX24 if I'm not mistaken, and is a 2-cell battery) will either a) become unbalanced over time, and b) will over-discharge beyond repair, since there's no speed controller with low voltage protection.
If you added a low-voltage alarm to the balance connector, it would beep when voltage dropped too low, so you would know to recharge it. That would work.
Always go full commit!
Good ol fashion bike hack from Seth
You love to see it
This channel is fast becoming my favorite and this video is proof you might be one bad lab accident away from becoming a super villain.
Amazing job. This channel should be called Seth's Bike Hacks.
Excellent work Seth! Great idea.
Excellent solution I feel he did a great job!!
Pretty cool, I love hacks like this! But please be super careful when hacking into LiPo/LiIon Batteries. If damaged they burst into flames very violently. This better be done outside with nothing flamable around.
I needed this bit of comedy in my day. Thanks, Seth.
love the scx24 battery combining my favorite hobbies!
Fun video but this illustrates the silliness of some wireless bike components. In the quest to eliminate one tiny dropper post cable we now have battery packs, worse form factors, and the always perfectly reliable Bluetooth connections to deal with. Sometimes it's just better to keep things simple.
I've seen other people complaining that their saddle would hit the wheel if they used a dropper too low (and long). Not a problem for me, a hardtail (poor) rider.
Nice to see Seth have to hack something again.
Ah... what I like about this channel! Nice video!
Great video Seth!
I hope Sram sees this video and upgrade their wireless seatpost :D
As a fellow short guy on small frames I feel your pain with droppers. Even with normal droppers often the bends in the seat tubes make it hard to run much more than a 125mm dropper on the smalls and get the right seat height.
Then you should buy a oneup dropper, they are the shortest droppers excisting
@@daviddoornenbal44 already got one, doesn't entirely make up for most frame designs though.
Things and stuff are not (always) better because they cost more.
I love you videos.
this video was so funny seth thanks for being original as always!!!
Seth, use your battery relocation hack under the saddle but attach a small smooth sheet metal plate to the saddle rails behind the connector you built. That way the tire contacts the smooth metal rather than the connector. For strength you may have to span from the saddle rails to the seat post shaft so you don’t rip the metal sheet off.
Sorry, I don’t know how to reply. Tried the Telegram app and could not find the username you included.
“I know you don’t feel bad for me” haha I appreciate the honesty
Great video; ur editor deserves a raise!!!!
As with all new to market products the manufacturer will hold some features/design back for v2.0, v3.0 etc. I bet they already have this sorted in the pipeline for the next version, to make us buy the new one!
Also, I don’t understand why they don’t combine the post control into the shifter, that would get the cockpit even cleaner. Maybe that’s coming!
Love the vids 👍🏻!
that's why we watch ur videos, Seth bike hacks is back lol
just in case you have not watched the first 2 mins of the video, he does a hint of hacking. just a miniscule amount of hacking.
great video seth :)
This is the EXACT same problem I have had since 3 years now ! An I've even done the same alternatives to resolve :) (without ripping the micro adjustment thingy). Hah so cool to see I'm not the only one with this issue.
The solution is, when you go out, just duck tape the battery around the post :) , simple, ugly, stupid...but it works. After chasing down the battery back the trail path, you get over the looks and stupidness of the solution
I see the merging of the RC hobby and mountain biking has come through again! Except I'm not sure I would want a lipo near that part of my body 😅