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PLEASE BROTHER BY ALL MEANS NECESSARY PLEASE IN BEHALF OF THE Black AND SPORTS COMMUNITY, STAY ON STEPHEN A SMITH'S NECK..... EVERYBODY KISSES HIS ASS BUT YOU AND JASON AINT BOWING DOWN...HIS TIME COMING
@@DomorSolutions no we need somebody to punch Stephen a Smith in the face point blank period..FCK the show it's time to put hands on this duck ..shit long over due
Honestly, Shannon would survive outside of first take. Nightcap itself is more watched. Even his club shay shay is better than whatever SAS has had. @@stephenobisanya
Shannon would be better off doing club shay shay and getting hit interviews, then talking sports on nightcap with Ocho, instead of wasting time on the trash that's first take
“He blacker then you” comment cut so deep he had to go point blank period. Black people saw Max riding hard for the culture on certain subjects that SA would dance around. SA was losing his base so dude had to go!
Stephen A still dances around. At end of the day, he's a company man for his yt bosses. He will play both sides at times, but when it's really time to pick a side we know who he's for. He admits it himself. "I'm happy when my bosses are happy." that sentence came out of his own mouth. What man says that?
That REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT "EXACTLY" YOU MEAN BE "FRIEND" LIKE MARCELLUS.😳 When you have these DAMNED TWO ENDS AGAINST THE MIDDLE OR BLACK AND WHITE MEN VS. "A" SENIOR BLACK MAN IN CORPORATE AMERICAN ON CABLE TELEVISION IT SOUNDS LIKE TENSIONS IN THE CHEMISTRY TYPE BS.....IT SOUNDS LIKE WHITE VS BLACK IN CORPORATE ANNALS OR "NIGGA REMEMBER YO PLACE" AS YOU WAG THE BIG WHITE CORPORATE FINGER 😈🤡👉IN HIS DAMNED FACE BRUH! AND SINCE THE WHITE GUY APPARENTLY HAS "A CLOSE AND LOYAL BLACK FRIEND AND COMRADE"🤨😳🤔WHO CAN "VOUCH FOR" OR "KISS HIS WHITE ASS" BEFORE THE PUBLIC EYES IN THIS "CONTENTION" .....IT OR "HE" OBVIOUSLY TIPS THE SCALES IN MAX'S FAVOR "RACIALLY, VISUALLY AND PROFESSIONALLY" RIGHT?!😳🤔 AFTER ALL. IN THE "CABLE TELEVISION INDUSTRY" HOW MANY BROTHAS WOULD VOUCH FOR A "PROMINENT BLACK HIGHLY IMPACTFUL AND MOSTLY RESPECTED BLACK SPORTS COMMENTATOR AND LEAD VS. THE "NEXT" WHITE NEWCOMER AND REPLACEMENT TO THE PREVIOUS "WHITE, DISGRUNTLED COLLEAGUE"?!!🤔😳 IT HAS TO BE "THAT OLD BLACK GUYS UNPROFESSIONAL CONDUCT AND ASSUMED COMFORT IN HIS DAMN BIG ASS SHOES RIGHT?🤔🤨🤬 WHO THE HELL DOES HE THINK HE IS?🤬😡WHAT? SO NOW THERE'S "TWO DISGRUNTLED WHITE PROFESSIONALS" IN MAX AND SKIP SO "WE MUST " HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS SAME "HEAD NEGRO" RIGHT?!!! THIS IS GOING TO BE "SENSITIVE" AND "DIFFICULT" FOR THE CABLE TELEVISION EXECUTIVES AND PRODUCERS TO FIGURE OUT. STEVEN A HAS CACHE APPARENTLY BECAUSE OF HIS LOOOONG AND SUCCESSFUL COMMENTARY SHOWS AND SPECIAL GUEST OPPORTUNITIES......WE MAY HAVE A PROBLEM HOUSTON!🤔😳😡 UNLESS! WE CAN "FIND" ANOTHER BLACK SPORTS COMMENTATOR TO CONFRONT, DEFLECT AND HOPEFULLY MINIMIZE "THE RACE CARD ♠️♦️ELEMENT" IN THIS "INCONVENIENT, PROFESSIONAL AND CORPORATE AMERICAN "MISUNDERSTANDING" BEFORE "RACE AND RATINGS" DRASTICALLY CAUSES SUFFERING AND MAJOR LOSS OF REVENUES AS A CONSEQUENCE. NOW! ITS THIS "THE SECOND WHITE PROFESSIONAL PARTNER AND COMMENTATOR THAT THIS "SAME BROTHA" HAS DEVELOPED A SIMILAR ISSUE WITH? HMMMM?🤔 MAYBE "HIS CORPORATE BRITCHES ARE GITTING A LITTLE TOO BIG FOR HIS CAREER "SUSPENDERS" TO CONTINUE TO HOLD UP HUH? WE ALL NEED A FRIEND LIKE MARCELLUS HUH @tylerwll5688. OR 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔? YOU SHOULD BE WILLING "TO ASK" THE "SOME OF US" THAT "HAD" FRIENDS LIKE MARCELLUS UNDER THESE CORPORATE CIRCUMSTANCES WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY FOR "MEGA-ASS KISSING" AND "KITCHEN NIGGARDY" WAS FRONT AND"CORPORATE" CENTER! I LOVES WHEN "MY MASSA"🤡🦓🎱 TENDENCIES CONVENIENTLY UPTAKE , RESURRECT THEMSELVES "WITH NEED AND REQUIREMENTS UNDER THESE CORPORATE CIRCUMSTANCES" TO REESTABLISH THEMSELVES "TO" TAKE OVER AND PUT THANGS "BACK IN ORDER" BEFORE "IGNANT ASS KUNTE" BURN US DOWN TO THE GROUND.
@@groundtrader173 Cell don’t want no job that would make him just an employee. He wants to say what he wants when he wants that’s why he’s going the Pat McAfee trail.
When Max called out Stephen A GH character Brick from taking jobs from aspiring actors and linking it with Tim Tebow getting through to the Mets passing over other minor league prospects was classic
Max had swag was into hip hop more than SAS and he would drop lyrics and that’s not SAS… max would be wild and way off and head scratching that SAS couldn’t debate that but just wanted to say your an idiot… outside of those moments max was great … blacks was more into max style just how we was when SAS was with skip… skips cross over was funny too with drip bayless but as a show that debates skip was better at it than max by a mile but max had better takes than SAS in my opinion
It was not like that the first 3-4 years. Then all of sudden, Stephen A started to show bad attitude and to walk away from the set before the end of the show.
@@groundtrader173 Sure you may think that. But Stephen A continuing to talk about him is going to make him bigger in his return than he ever was before if Stephen A just ignored him lol opposite of love isn't hate it's indifference
@@groundtrader173max related to the culture more then Stephen A Smith, and that’s extremely sad. Say that he was wrong certain takes cool same can be said for us all. To say that his takes and opinions were bad is just out of control.
@@miskwainini DON'T DO THAT! It's divisive and that's what the dividers in power want think and embrace! Too many famous black leaders to name, like Marcus Garvey and Colin Powell to name a couple, were about inclusion and unity. Do not perpetuate this kind of hatred, bro.
Max Kellerman made Steven A Smith uncomfortable. He overshadowed SAS with superior debating skills and being credited for being more black than himself.
Never forget how offended Screamin A got when Terrell Owens said Max was blacker than him during the Kap fiasco. I think thats when Screamin A wanted em gone.
I liked the show with Max, but toward the end, the last couple of years, I began to be uncomfortable about how he was treating Max. My wife, who was indifferent to most of sports media, hear him one day and said, "Why is he being so disrespectful to his co-host?" So Stephen was right, but not for the reason he imagines.
The ironic part is that despite SAS’ extreme success, power, and massive contract he simply couldn’t handle the fact that Kellerman was infinitely better at the job itself. Max had the audacity to act like he was a co-host of a debate show rather than a personal assistant or errand boy.
When I was a kid I thought Stephen A was one of the smartest people on TV, but by the time I finished law school I felt the exact opposite… Stephen A isn’t that smart and his real views come out even when he uses that “Brutha” talk.
I don't think Max CAN respond. He's still getting paid by ESPN I believe until later this year. It likely is in his contract that he can't work or speak on these things
Hate him all you want. SAS changed the format at the right time (just before the player podcasts started to take off). Deferring more to specialists and players. Shannon Sharpe and Mad dog are stars
Max is a brilliant man and he made it very obvious that Stephen A isn’t when you see both of them on screen together. Stephen A’s ego couldn’t handle that.
@CaptLawrenceD using big, recycled words doesn't mean he intelligent tho. Because if he was, he would keep it 💯 and tell the truth because he only making himself look more foolish fr 🤷🏾
I don't think talk shows succeed because of text book intelligence, it's more a formula that needs specific personalities, roles, and chemistry. It's a dance and if they keep awkwardly stepping on each other's tors they're not a convincing pair. I think it was the black issues that derailed their relationship the most and overall Max's refusal to adapt into the role SAS wanted him to play. Max's personality profile is not a fit for the type of debate show SAS wants for First Take. P.S. intelligence didn't stop Max from getting fired, which concludes my points above. It's all about fit.
I don't understand why SAS continues to try to drag Kellerman after all these yrs. Kellerman has not said anything going at Smith. SAS got him fired from First Take, he's not even on ESPN shows anymore...and he is still taking shots. SAS needs to leave Max alone
WOW Mr. Wiley your grandmother’s quote “The truth is simple , lies are complex” is AMAZING! Never heard that one before, but it’s perfect! Thanks you sir!
TO repeated what people were saying about Stephen A for years. TO was the only guy with some clout to have the balls to say it on live TV. Honestly I don't know why Stephen A got mad at TO fit saying it. Stephen A out of his own mouth said "I'm happy when my bosses are happy." No man other than a brown noser butt kissing tap dancer says that.
We’re all rooting for Max; The way Steven A regularly talked crazy to Max I felt that led to Keshawn & Jay wills bad behavior towards him also. They got out of line several times too
@@edhooper1421 Because they are both phony and full of ish. Carter is basically bowing down to Smith and being his yes man, or to a lesser degree, Stephen A is doing his best Johnny Carson and Carter channeling Ed McMahon. If y'all don't know who they are and why I say that, look em up...I'm just old school, that's all.
I personally stopped watching First Take as much once Max left. It's funny how Stephen A supposedly wishes Max the best yet publicly speaks negatively about him.
I stopped watching almost entirely. I really liked Undisputed when Shannon was there, but I STILL don't watch First Take - except for a very rare clip, because I can't stand listening to Stephen A. The way he yells like a fool, always annoyed me; but the Max situation led to me not bothering to watch.
i’m the same way ..lost all respect for SAS and the show once Max was gon..they pulled back the curtain and showed us it’s just a bunch of BS ..MAD DOG ..the dude WILL aka baby Skip etc ..who cares ..it’s even boring with Shannon 😂
I didn't always agree with Max's sports takes, but he was by far my favorite person that has ever been on there. I loved listening to him he was smart and explained his points on sports or social matters. I miss that guy so much! The new people are mostly unbearable as well as Get Up has gotten crappy.
problem with Stephen A. is that he hates not being the smartest in the room, or sounding like the smartest. When Max took that away from him, his ego on TV was hit for the fraud that he is.
Max didn't talk above the audience... Stephen A. just has a rudimentary understanding, if not intellect. The number of words he mispronounced and used incorrectly you could play a drinking game with. Dude is blatantly transparent, myopic and me-centric.
@@robk6831 can't be that sas is under contract and he talks about it if it's not a "non disclosure agreement" anybody can talk as much as they want about why they were fired etc the contract is governed by completely different business law
Great video! Thanks for breaking it down by each outlandish comment. Steven A. changes his reasons for firing Max in every interview. He doesn't even remember what he previously said half the time. And, what happened to ESPN telling him not to even discuss the topic anymore? 🤔😏🤔 Keep up the great work! God bless. 😊❤️🙏🏿
SAS used to pout and mean girl Max back in the day. He would get his ex-ball player cronies like Kendrick Perkins and Jay Williams to mean girl any take he had. It wasn’t debate theater it was being a lousy on-air partner. And wasn’t the show number 1 when Max was on? Did Max have hot takes that didn’t land. Sure but wasn’t that the show? Tom Brady Cliff is probably the most egregious. That said he was speculating how long could Tom’s greatness last. Meanwhile Kendrick Perkins was given free reign with zero blowback when he said nikola jokic didn’t deserve to be mvp and basically called him a scrub who only got praise because he was white when he was universally seen as the best player in the nba. Dude just wildly threw the race card on a guy who by all accounts was a class act dominating the league and SAS stood by his man. Why? Kendrick wasn’t a threat. He was a follower of SAS, but Max was playing his role as his equal and when SAS felt threatened he sabotaged the guy because he didn’t have the goods to win a fair fight debating Max. ESPN seems to be a cesspool of politics that SAS learned to master when he came back and he was more than happy to ruin a guy’s career
We all know Stephen A is lying. How? Every time he gets interviewed, it’s a different story. There’s no chemistry. The numbers wasn’t there. But FT was still number 1. There’s no data, fans just come up to me. It was Max’s fault. But ultimately, it’s my fault. Blah blah blah blah. If you’re gonna lie, at least stick to one story. That may be more believable.
Max was more of a RN than SAS. Loved the culture, rapped, spoke on social issues. Even being told more black than SAS. Best part of it all is he kept it G and just silent about the whole thing still and never said anything.
Stephen A ruined Max Kellerman's career and ESPN stood by and watched him. They took away that man's bread and butter and now as if that wasn't good enough, he has to disparage and ruin his good name. Tell me why he still even has a job at ESPN while so many greats have been fired.
Stephen admitted to having Max fired because he was "too smart". What that looked like though, was that Max out-shined Stephen on social issues (BLM, the elections, the pandemic, etc). Stephen tried to be an entertainer instead of being earnest, and Max's genuineness made him look like a fool.
sas didnt want to be "earnest" because that would mean he would have to buck dance all over the set of 'first take' (wearing a cowboy hat for jerry jones)... he was hoping to APPEAR to be black max made him uncomfortable for EXACTLY that reason and when terrell owens blew him up (it was like when wile e. coyote got blown up by a bomb and looked at the camera afterward) that was TOO MUCH
At the time, I think most agreed with T.O. - Max surprisingly had a better pulse on the average minority’s perspective. He even threw in hip-hop references that only a fanatic would catch. Stephen A definitely got rid of Max to recapture that demographic.
Basically Steven A wanted to be seen as the hero but Max was so good and didn't bend to what he wanted so he looked like the villain and like he wasn't what the culture was feeling
Precisely bro, he stayed using gratuitous vocabs when he was around Max because he felt stupid around Max. And it was very obvious Max was the better debater on pretty much all issues.
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CC got caught up in the lie when he said about skip “ I’ll never come back on your show, ima punch you in the face “ .. but live on undisputed he applauded skip for getting him the gig lol
He went on First take after that incident as well lol. It’s just that ESPN removed a lot of those old content with Skip. CC even sided with Skip when Skip & Jalen Rose went at it
Way worse Skips was public , Stephen’s was public, behind the scenes and then disrespected son after the fact continuously, knowing Max couldn’t speak on the decision to defend himself
Y’all are out of your minds. I could tell you I’ve never watched First Take back then!!! Because it was hot garbage. Just like maxes Tom Brady take! I think Tom Brady played that long just to spite Max!! Even Molly would call him out on stuff!!
The problem has always been that Max is intellectually superior to SAS in every way--and it burned him up inside. Having a white man intellectually outclass him on black issues nationally was too much for his ego to take.
MW, my brother, you hit this one right on the nail. I literally spoke about this before my podcast about how I would literally watch the show just to see Max disprove Stephen a Smith when it came to “so-called black issues” and I only say so-called because really they everybody issues😅
Bro I used to love first take with Max. It was actually a debate show then. As Marcellus stated, the dynamic with Skip was Stephen A saying what the rest of us thought to debunk or just completely pick apart Skip's outlandish takes. Max articulated his opinions very well and SAS couldn't just be loud or gimmicky enough to combat the sharp points that Max made. It was clear on several occasions that SAS couldn't cope with Max's arguments and it was dimming his starlight in the eyes of viewers. SAS just spinning this web of deception and he's getting lost in it at times.
I agree. Max didn’t give SAS or any of the supporting cast wiggle room to make their points or use their niches. They all rolled their eyes and smacked their teeth. Max is exceptional at making his claim, providing data and then using his knowledge to add backing. SAS used to literally say in the middle of the show some times, Max how am I supposed to respond to that. 🤣
Count me on Team Max-Wiley. Max was too smart and rational for Stephen Clowns show. SAS wanted a Guilty White Beta Male as a punching bag. Max didn’t fill that profile.
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PLEASE BROTHER BY ALL MEANS NECESSARY PLEASE IN BEHALF OF THE Black AND SPORTS COMMUNITY, STAY ON STEPHEN A SMITH'S NECK..... EVERYBODY KISSES HIS ASS BUT YOU AND JASON AINT BOWING DOWN...HIS TIME COMING
Bruh u better be scared u see Stephen A had the guns out… lmmfbao..
We need you and max start another show on stream it on here man
@@DomorSolutions no we need somebody to punch Stephen a Smith in the face point blank period..FCK the show it's time to put hands on this duck ..shit long over due
Please talk Max into starting his own TH-cam channel. He’s sorely missed.
You know what, Max Kellerman on Club Shay Shay would break the internet. 😂
Shannon Sharpe can kiss his FIRST TAKE job goodbye lmao
Unfortunately, Shannon wouldn’t do that to Stephen A… but that would be great !
Honestly, Shannon would survive outside of first take. Nightcap itself is more watched. Even his club shay shay is better than whatever SAS has had. @@stephenobisanya
No it wouldn't...jus like everything else with max ppl not gonna watch
Shannon would be better off doing club shay shay and getting hit interviews, then talking sports on nightcap with Ocho, instead of wasting time on the trash that's first take
Max' silence is louder than Stephen A's voice
Max is still getting paid from ESPN
🤦
Max could kill Steven A, if he came out and gave his side!!
@@NoSpinster0909I am sure they bought his silence for a few years
“He blacker then you” comment cut so deep he had to go point blank period. Black people saw Max riding hard for the culture on certain subjects that SA would dance around. SA was losing his base so dude had to go!
💯
😂 he NEVER recovered from that as hard as he tries
White people never give real opinions about black people. Stephen A. CAN be honest about his community because he is FROM that community.
Stephen A still dances around. At end of the day, he's a company man for his yt bosses.
He will play both sides at times, but when it's really time to pick a side we know who he's for. He admits it himself.
"I'm happy when my bosses are happy." that sentence came out of his own mouth.
What man says that?
Factsssss! 💯
I think we all need a friend like what Marcellus is to Max. He’s not just defending him against a random person but the top dude at ESPN.
Marcellus wants job. Max will help him to be back
That REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT "EXACTLY" YOU MEAN BE "FRIEND" LIKE MARCELLUS.😳 When you have these DAMNED TWO ENDS AGAINST THE MIDDLE OR BLACK AND WHITE MEN VS. "A" SENIOR BLACK MAN IN CORPORATE AMERICAN ON CABLE TELEVISION IT SOUNDS LIKE TENSIONS IN THE CHEMISTRY TYPE BS.....IT SOUNDS LIKE WHITE VS BLACK IN CORPORATE ANNALS OR "NIGGA REMEMBER YO PLACE" AS YOU WAG THE BIG WHITE CORPORATE FINGER 😈🤡👉IN HIS DAMNED FACE BRUH! AND SINCE THE WHITE GUY APPARENTLY HAS "A CLOSE AND LOYAL BLACK FRIEND AND COMRADE"🤨😳🤔WHO CAN "VOUCH FOR" OR "KISS HIS WHITE ASS" BEFORE THE PUBLIC EYES IN THIS "CONTENTION" .....IT OR "HE" OBVIOUSLY TIPS THE SCALES IN MAX'S FAVOR "RACIALLY, VISUALLY AND PROFESSIONALLY" RIGHT?!😳🤔 AFTER ALL. IN THE "CABLE TELEVISION INDUSTRY" HOW MANY BROTHAS WOULD VOUCH FOR A "PROMINENT BLACK HIGHLY IMPACTFUL AND MOSTLY RESPECTED BLACK SPORTS COMMENTATOR AND LEAD VS. THE "NEXT" WHITE NEWCOMER AND REPLACEMENT TO THE PREVIOUS "WHITE, DISGRUNTLED COLLEAGUE"?!!🤔😳 IT HAS TO BE "THAT OLD BLACK GUYS UNPROFESSIONAL CONDUCT AND ASSUMED COMFORT IN HIS DAMN BIG ASS SHOES RIGHT?🤔🤨🤬 WHO THE HELL DOES HE THINK HE IS?🤬😡WHAT? SO NOW THERE'S "TWO DISGRUNTLED WHITE PROFESSIONALS" IN MAX AND SKIP SO "WE MUST " HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS SAME "HEAD NEGRO" RIGHT?!!! THIS IS GOING TO BE "SENSITIVE" AND "DIFFICULT" FOR THE CABLE TELEVISION EXECUTIVES AND PRODUCERS TO FIGURE OUT. STEVEN A HAS CACHE APPARENTLY BECAUSE OF HIS LOOOONG AND SUCCESSFUL COMMENTARY SHOWS AND SPECIAL GUEST OPPORTUNITIES......WE MAY HAVE A PROBLEM HOUSTON!🤔😳😡 UNLESS! WE CAN "FIND" ANOTHER BLACK SPORTS COMMENTATOR TO CONFRONT, DEFLECT AND HOPEFULLY MINIMIZE "THE RACE CARD ♠️♦️ELEMENT" IN THIS "INCONVENIENT, PROFESSIONAL AND CORPORATE AMERICAN "MISUNDERSTANDING" BEFORE "RACE AND RATINGS" DRASTICALLY CAUSES SUFFERING AND MAJOR LOSS OF REVENUES AS A CONSEQUENCE. NOW! ITS THIS "THE SECOND WHITE PROFESSIONAL PARTNER AND COMMENTATOR THAT THIS "SAME BROTHA" HAS DEVELOPED A SIMILAR ISSUE WITH? HMMMM?🤔 MAYBE "HIS CORPORATE BRITCHES ARE GITTING A LITTLE TOO BIG FOR HIS CAREER "SUSPENDERS" TO CONTINUE TO HOLD UP HUH? WE ALL NEED A FRIEND LIKE MARCELLUS HUH @tylerwll5688. OR 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔? YOU SHOULD BE WILLING "TO ASK" THE "SOME OF US" THAT "HAD" FRIENDS LIKE MARCELLUS UNDER THESE CORPORATE CIRCUMSTANCES WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY FOR "MEGA-ASS KISSING" AND "KITCHEN NIGGARDY" WAS FRONT AND"CORPORATE" CENTER! I LOVES WHEN "MY MASSA"🤡🦓🎱 TENDENCIES CONVENIENTLY UPTAKE , RESURRECT THEMSELVES "WITH NEED AND REQUIREMENTS UNDER THESE CORPORATE CIRCUMSTANCES" TO REESTABLISH THEMSELVES "TO" TAKE OVER AND PUT THANGS "BACK IN ORDER" BEFORE "IGNANT ASS KUNTE" BURN US DOWN TO THE GROUND.
@@groundtrader173
Cell don’t want no job that would make him just an employee. He wants to say what he wants when he wants that’s why he’s going the Pat McAfee trail.
Max was too smart for him ; Max was exposing SAS’s ignorance… plain and simple
I was saying that from day 1
Loved Max
When Max called out Stephen A GH character Brick from taking jobs from aspiring actors and linking it with Tim Tebow getting through to the Mets passing over other minor league prospects was classic
PLAIN AND MF SIMPLE MY DOG, perfectly said
@@hilliarddillepree7717max was for the people non just the money
"The truth is simple. Lies are complex."- Grandma. Simple and brilliant...
Anyone that watched that show knows Stephen A Smith didn't like Max.
Yeah, because Max was terrible!!!
@EtherGamerNetwork Actually because Max is alot smarter than him
From jump
Max had swag was into hip hop more than SAS and he would drop lyrics and that’s not SAS… max would be wild and way off and head scratching that SAS couldn’t debate that but just wanted to say your an idiot… outside of those moments max was great … blacks was more into max style just how we was when SAS was with skip… skips cross over was funny too with drip bayless but as a show that debates skip was better at it than max by a mile but max had better takes than SAS in my opinion
It was not like that the first 3-4 years. Then all of sudden, Stephen A started to show bad attitude and to walk away from the set before the end of the show.
I think max lowered Steven A Smith self-esteem when he was on first take
Yep!!
Weak guy
I strongly agree with you.
SAS would be so mad!
I'm waiting for Max's new show!
The irony is Stephen A continuing to talk about Max has only made Max's return even more anticipated lol
Max was bad. He had terrible takes. Max had show and it failed
@@groundtrader173 Sure you may think that. But Stephen A continuing to talk about him is going to make him bigger in his return than he ever was before if Stephen A just ignored him lol opposite of love isn't hate it's indifference
Shit would definitely go crazy!
@@groundtrader173😐😐
@@groundtrader173max related to the culture more then Stephen A Smith, and that’s extremely sad. Say that he was wrong certain takes cool same can be said for us all. To say that his takes and opinions were bad is just out of control.
SAS hated that Max was smarter than him in sports, politics, social justice, and beyond. Simple
Not with sports. Max had terrible sports takes. But he did murder Stephen A on racial, political, and social justice topics.
There was no debate, Max always was one up on him. He didn’t want to embrace the role as the less smarter guy in the room.
No he didn't. Stop with this nonsense. Yall will say anything cause you can't stand sas
Not remotely true
Facts
Max was smarter and a more skilled debater. SAS knew it.
@@madddoggnogood1491 SAS averaged 1.5ppg only playing 1 game of college ball, now that's nonsense.
Stephen A said he went to the executives and tried to get Max off the show for over a year! That’s snake like behavior
He a clown 😊
He's Carribean
@@miskwainini tether
Wtf are you talking about @@miskwainini
@@miskwainini DON'T DO THAT! It's divisive and that's what the dividers in power want think and embrace! Too many famous black leaders to name, like Marcus Garvey and Colin Powell to name a couple, were about inclusion and unity. Do not perpetuate this kind of hatred, bro.
Max really hurt sas intelligence and manhood. Keep preaching Marcellus. The streets were feeling Max and that’s what really hurt sas. That’s it.
Steven A can’t hide the true reason why Max isn’t there anymore, it’s plain to see
The more Stephen A talks the more public opinion goes to Max.
"I'll never root against him" as he constantly trashes him every chance he gets.
Max Kellerman made Steven A Smith uncomfortable. He overshadowed SAS with superior debating skills and being credited for being more black than himself.
Yep, once T.O said max was blacker, that was it. He had to go.
Facts
Which Max was!
100% correct. Max was superior and SAS knew it.
Max = high level debate
Sas = cheap barbershop sports talk 😂
Never forget how offended Screamin A got when Terrell Owens said Max was blacker than him during the Kap fiasco. I think thats when Screamin A wanted em gone.
Absolutely
And TO is a sellout
@@TheNyion912 sure
That was a dumb statement by TO.
@@christopherporter3477 no it wasn't
Max was so skilled at articulating a point even when that point wasn't valid that it would annoy Stephen A. Lol😅😂😂😂.
WHY don't we have a Max and Marcellus podcast!?!? We'd all be here for it
The fact that Max been quiet this long, but Stephen A has spoke on it multiple times should tell you everything.
Is he "speaking out" or "answering a question"
Seems like he keeps getting ask
Facts
They keep asking him
@@sakazakijinu can just tell uve never been in real life😂
Simple as you said. Max clowned him on to many occasions. I stopped watching when max was gone
Me too
Same
Same here
Yeah max was cool n funny with his takes.
I liked the show with Max, but toward the end, the last couple of years, I began to be uncomfortable about how he was treating Max. My wife, who was indifferent to most of sports media, hear him one day and said, "Why is he being so disrespectful to his co-host?" So Stephen was right, but not for the reason he imagines.
Bruh, you broke this down so well and did it respectfully. I enjoyed that.
Love Marcellus breaking down sports commentators like its game film.
Me 2! Just the beginning….
Max is intelligent and classy. SAS was outclassed by Max in arguments.
The ironic part is that despite SAS’ extreme success, power, and massive contract he simply couldn’t handle the fact that Kellerman was infinitely better at the job itself. Max had the audacity to act like he was a co-host of a debate show rather than a personal assistant or errand boy.
I want igudala 😂😂😂😂😂
SAS is OBVIOUSLY insecure as fuck.
@@26Cortez cinema
Damn… this makes us ALL remember how much we truly miss Max Kellerman!!!!
I miss Max..... He was authentic honest n truthful
Max Kellerman was easily my favorite person on ESPN. Sportsnation was their best show.
When I was a kid I thought Stephen A was one of the smartest people on TV, but by the time I finished law school I felt the exact opposite… Stephen A isn’t that smart and his real views come out even when he uses that “Brutha” talk.
Mark Cuban going on First Take confirmed to me that Stephen A wasn't too bright.
Max Kellerman is a class act, why would he respond to SA ? Remember, Never argue with a fool because people might not notice the difference!
Also, "Never argue with a fool. They'll bring you down to their level, and they're more experienced there."
I don't think Max CAN respond. He's still getting paid by ESPN I believe until later this year. It likely is in his contract that he can't work or speak on these things
Sounds SCRIPTURALLY sir!!
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Hate him all you want. SAS changed the format at the right time (just before the player podcasts started to take off). Deferring more to specialists and players. Shannon Sharpe and Mad dog are stars
Mad Dog is an idiot.
Max is a brilliant man and he made it very obvious that Stephen A isn’t when you see both of them on screen together. Stephen A’s ego couldn’t handle that.
nah sas is intelligent... he just wants to be the ONLY intelligent one in the room and he couldnt be that with max
@CaptLawrenceD using big, recycled words doesn't mean he intelligent tho. Because if he was, he would keep it 💯 and tell the truth because he only making himself look more foolish fr 🤷🏾
I don't think talk shows succeed because of text book intelligence, it's more a formula that needs specific personalities, roles, and chemistry. It's a dance and if they keep awkwardly stepping on each other's tors they're not a convincing pair.
I think it was the black issues that derailed their relationship the most and overall Max's refusal to adapt into the role SAS wanted him to play. Max's personality profile is not a fit for the type of debate show SAS wants for First Take.
P.S. intelligence didn't stop Max from getting fired, which concludes my points above.
It's all about fit.
@@torriehutchinson7790 my opinion you're mixing up INTEGRITY with INTELLIGENCE
@@raedene3 bro sometimes it comes down to INSECURITIES
i'll just leave it right there
We need Marcellus & Maxx on a show together!
That was my fav sports radio show back in the day. I doubt they go back to it though
@@shauncollins6552it was the best
Wounder how Successful there will be no harm but I'm not watching it
Dope yo👌💯🙌🔥👏😎👌
Wiley you are great at this! Funny, smart, articulate. Im hooked!
I don't understand why SAS continues to try to drag Kellerman after all these yrs. Kellerman has not said anything going at Smith.
SAS got him fired from First Take, he's not even on ESPN shows anymore...and he is still taking shots. SAS needs to leave Max alone
WOW Mr. Wiley your grandmother’s quote “The truth is simple , lies are complex” is AMAZING! Never heard that one before, but it’s perfect! Thanks you sir!
Steve was jealous of Max's intellect, and when T.O. said Max was blacker than him, oh my, that did it
TO repeated what people were saying about Stephen A for years. TO was the only guy with some clout to have the balls to say it on live TV.
Honestly I don't know why Stephen A got mad at TO fit saying it. Stephen A out of his own mouth said "I'm happy when my bosses are happy."
No man other than a brown noser butt kissing tap dancer says that.
Stephen a smith needs to shut up .
He is an idiot, has the biggest mouth in the world. Half that comes out is so dam annoying.
All the way up!!
It’s really that simple. He should have just moved on from the entire situation
@@Nateashnine He can't because he's still bleeding from TO's most infamous line.
He gets asked the question. Yall want him to say no comment?
SAS didn’t like Max cause Max made him look dumb on many occasions & he couldn’t take it… SAS a rich puppet
You're awesome Marcellus. Always enjoy listening to you...
He called his audience dumb and they don’t even realize it 😂😂😂 I guess he’s right
We’re all rooting for Max; The way Steven A regularly talked crazy to Max I felt that led to Keshawn & Jay wills bad behavior towards him also. They got out of line several times too
Keshawn especially. And Keshawn wasn't great on air so it felt less warranted.
@@brucehicks5817 Keshawn is terrible on TV. He must have some dirt on someone to continuously keep his job.
@@brucehicks5817 Keyshawn isn't good period, bro just in the right place at the right time.
You are so right, Stephen A ridiculed Max for so long that other colleagues decided to follow suit
@@BayandaMdingi exactly.
You know Marcellus absolutely loved saying that TO quote more than a few times ( "Max is blacker than you") lmao 😂
He's blacker than Marcellus too
It makes me happy to see Max win this argument by staying radio silent.
You are right, Max ate SAS lunch on too many occasions.
Nope we got tired of falling asleep to his horrible takes ", Brady is on a cliff " Guy goes and wins 2 super bowls 😂 Foh .
@@BangOut-tb7vv Name 5 more.
@@Slayer1106411or his horrible takes on Steph Curry that proved to be wrong and Steph proved he is that dude
@@PS5Akatsuki 4 more to go.
The main reason steven a smith aint want max as co host is the way max made him look like a sellout to black people.
Steven A thought he was the smartest person in the room ad he wasn't.
Ego hurt so much by Max. 😂
Love the take💪 You the truth Marcellus !!!
We all watched. SAS couldnt really debate with Max, so he resorted to bullying a lot of times. He's a black version of Skip
Shannon Sharpe + Max Kellerman would be a great debate show.
Max would embarrass Shannon...lol
@@39Aces That's the point. You need one wetard on the show, always.
@@39Aces That's the point. You need one wetard on the show.
@@39Acesno he wouldn’t.. Shannon far from stupid
@@Hail2daChiefyeah I don’t think so either Shannon way better at debating than Screaming A Smith
Chris Carter and Stephen A Smith? Talk about a DOUBLE NEGATIVE 😂.
😂😂😂😂 Thats funny ngl and I dunno why 🤷🏾♂️
@@edhooper1421 Because they are both phony and full of ish.
Carter is basically bowing down to Smith and being his yes man, or to a lesser degree, Stephen A is doing his best Johnny Carson and Carter channeling Ed McMahon.
If y'all don't know who they are and why I say that, look em up...I'm just old school, that's all.
@@darnellmiller1215Ed mcmahon the guy from star search 😂
Double negative for sure......😂😂🤣
@@darnellmiller1215what is Chris gaining outta this ? Do u think we will see Chris on first take this yr ?
I personally stopped watching First Take as much once Max left. It's funny how Stephen A supposedly wishes Max the best yet publicly speaks negatively about him.
Same here, it just wasn't the same.
I stopped watching almost entirely. I really liked Undisputed when Shannon was there, but I STILL don't watch First Take - except for a very rare clip, because I can't stand listening to Stephen A. The way he yells like a fool, always annoyed me; but the Max situation led to me not bothering to watch.
Cuz he's a lying ass snake 😂
i’m the same way ..lost all respect for SAS and the show once Max was gon..they pulled back the curtain and showed us it’s just a bunch of BS ..MAD DOG ..the dude WILL aka baby Skip etc ..who cares ..it’s even boring with Shannon 😂
I didn't always agree with Max's sports takes, but he was by far my favorite person that has ever been on there. I loved listening to him he was smart and explained his points on sports or social matters. I miss that guy so much! The new people are mostly unbearable as well as Get Up has gotten crappy.
Marcellus thank you for your realness always brother 💪🏾💯 Your take is needed‼️
problem with Stephen A. is that he hates not being the smartest in the room, or sounding like the smartest. When Max took that away from him, his ego on TV was hit for the fraud that he is.
Bingo
Max didn't talk above the audience... Stephen A. just has a rudimentary understanding, if not intellect. The number of words he mispronounced and used incorrectly you could play a drinking game with. Dude is blatantly transparent, myopic and me-centric.
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Max is taking the Michael Jordan approach … say nothin
He's still under contract. Probably cant speak to it or it would cost him $$.
Like Caitlin Clark as well… let all those bitches… keep talking trash… and she puts her head down and keeps BALLING!!!
@@robk6831 can't be that
sas is under contract and he talks about it
if it's not a "non disclosure agreement" anybody can talk as much as they want about why they were fired etc
the contract is governed by completely different business law
@@CaptLawrenceD you've clearly never seen a severance disclaimer
@@robk6831 no i haven't that's true
Btw Wiley you set this up AND broke it down beautifully & truthfully. Thanx!😊
Great video! Thanks for breaking it down by each outlandish comment.
Steven A. changes his reasons for firing Max in every interview. He doesn't even remember what he previously said half the time.
And, what happened to ESPN telling him not to even discuss the topic anymore? 🤔😏🤔
Keep up the great work! God bless. 😊❤️🙏🏿
SAS used to pout and mean girl Max back in the day. He would get his ex-ball player cronies like Kendrick Perkins and Jay Williams to mean girl any take he had. It wasn’t debate theater it was being a lousy on-air partner. And wasn’t the show number 1 when Max was on?
Did Max have hot takes that didn’t land. Sure but wasn’t that the show? Tom Brady Cliff is probably the most egregious. That said he was speculating how long could Tom’s greatness last. Meanwhile Kendrick Perkins was given free reign with zero blowback when he said nikola jokic didn’t deserve to be mvp and basically called him a scrub who only got praise because he was white when he was universally seen as the best player in the nba.
Dude just wildly threw the race card on a guy who by all accounts was a class act dominating the league and SAS stood by his man. Why? Kendrick wasn’t a threat. He was a follower of SAS, but Max was playing his role as his equal and when SAS felt threatened he sabotaged the guy because he didn’t have the goods to win a fair fight debating Max. ESPN seems to be a cesspool of politics that SAS learned to master when he came back and he was more than happy to ruin a guy’s career
Facts
Stephen A is a liar, it's very clear from this, the guy just said a lot without saying anything.
Bruh. A whole bunch of empty ass, nothing ass, double talk.
Always does!
@@KwonFiveNine Bruh. A bunch of nothing ass, empty ass, double talk.
We all know Stephen A is lying. How? Every time he gets interviewed, it’s a different story.
There’s no chemistry. The numbers wasn’t there. But FT was still number 1. There’s no data, fans just come up to me. It was Max’s fault. But ultimately, it’s my fault. Blah blah blah blah.
If you’re gonna lie, at least stick to one story. That may be more believable.
The man who said he got a full ride after not playing a lick of high school ball and made 27 three point shots in a row is lying? Color me shocked
same way cops know when someone is lying
the story changes
@@MikeBNumba6 and “averaged 1.5 points per game” when he only “played” 1 game. Is there a way to get 0.5 point that I’m not aware of?
@@phuto6546 then he lied again and said he played zero games
Thank you for the aspect Marcelus. It brought alot of insight to the long going questions! I came here from Dreamerspro.
Keep spitting facts Marcellus 💯
Stephen A Smith is the nerdy black guy and Max Kellerman is the cool white dude. Basically.
False
Very false. You have the depth of a puddle.
@@smk4428 Terrel Owns said the same thing and Stephen A got butt hurt.
Exactly
@@rickpcp that's not what he said idiot. He said something completely different from what you said
Max was more of a RN than SAS. Loved the culture, rapped, spoke on social issues. Even being told more black than SAS. Best part of it all is he kept it G and just silent about the whole thing still and never said anything.
max is a registered nurse?
😂@@CaptLawrenceD
Man I really appreciate your unbiased opinion. I’m addicted to your channel.
Thanks for breaking it down! You’ve been consistent when it pertains to SA and Max!
That is EXACTLY what it is!!.. Max made everyone look at Stephen different. And T.O. ripped his guts out with the "blacker than you" comment! 💯
Stephen A ruined Max Kellerman's career and ESPN stood by and watched him. They took away that man's bread and butter and now as if that wasn't good enough, he has to disparage and ruin his good name. Tell me why he still even has a job at ESPN while so many greats have been fired.
How do you know what max is doing just bcuz u dont see him on ESPN doesn’t mean he not getting money u sound ignorant
Stephen admitted to having Max fired because he was "too smart". What that looked like though, was that Max out-shined Stephen on social issues (BLM, the elections, the pandemic, etc). Stephen tried to be an entertainer instead of being earnest, and Max's genuineness made him look like a fool.
sas didnt want to be "earnest" because that would mean he would have to buck dance all over the set of 'first take' (wearing a cowboy hat for jerry jones)... he was hoping to APPEAR to be black
max made him uncomfortable for EXACTLY that reason and when terrell owens blew him up (it was like when wile e. coyote got blown up by a bomb and looked at the camera afterward) that was TOO MUCH
At the time, I think most agreed with T.O. - Max surprisingly had a better pulse on the average minority’s perspective. He even threw in hip-hop references that only a fanatic would catch. Stephen A definitely got rid of Max to recapture that demographic.
Need more voices and opinions like urs to be heard keep it up
They were drawing the same eyes but with a different energy, admiration vs a glare.
Steven A never beat Max in a debate he used to smoked him every episode😂
T.O. lost Max his job by making THAT comment.......FACTS
No fans fault. Ppl tried put them on same level..smith said bet..let him do it without me..fired
Basically Steven A wanted to be seen as the hero but Max was so good and didn't bend to what he wanted so he looked like the villain and like he wasn't what the culture was feeling
The bosses at ESPN agreed with SAS in the end and fired Max.
Appreciate you 'Cel!
SAS IS A CLOWN....WE NEED MAX BACK!!!
Peep this, you no longer hear SAS uses big words like he was when Max was around 🤔🤔🧐
Precisely bro, he stayed using gratuitous vocabs when he was around Max because he felt stupid around Max. And it was very obvious Max was the better debater on pretty much all issues.
The whole "broad vocabulary" facade / schtick has always annoyed me. "Diatribe... Soliloquy" smh lol.
@@BoldenFMADon’t forget capitulate and aspersions 😂😂
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@@kingjacktheripper lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣 yep
Max is an attorney. Max didn't blow smoke.
Max is a rapper
I am Puertorican, English is my second language. However, I could sense, you are definitely preaching brother! 100% agree
The only ad in this vid was 7 seconds and it was to help others.I can't understate how profound that is in this media podcast climate full of money hungry slithering snakes.This is my new sport content channel and I'm glad I discovered it.Keep being you MW much respect ⭐
Stephen A Smith sell out no backbone A gatekeeper.
SAS couldn’t understand Max! Just say that! 😂 “talking over his head.”
CC got caught up in the lie when he said about skip “ I’ll never come back on your show, ima punch you in the face “ .. but live on undisputed he applauded skip for getting him the gig lol
He went on First take after that incident as well lol. It’s just that ESPN removed a lot of those old content with Skip. CC even sided with Skip when Skip & Jalen Rose went at it
He said he didn't have a problem with skip after he said that
@@step-p4jyall got some good memories. Thought i was the only one that remembered that. Skip also promoted First Things First on undisputed
Easy to take shots at skip for ratings now. It's funny people don't like him but everyone talks about him still. Move on.
I applaud you Big Dawg for keeping this 💯 Like you I can’t understand why SAS keeps talking about Max. We all saw that Max was outperforming SAS.
Great analysis Marcellus.
New subscriber, great video Marcellus. Talking about the truth here!
Carter is wrong. SAS wasn't the guy he is at ESPN when Marcellus got on, so they won't have called him.
Stephen a smith did to max what skip did to Shannon but worse .
Way worse Skips was public , Stephen’s was public, behind the scenes and then disrespected son after the fact continuously, knowing Max couldn’t speak on the decision to defend himself
Wow , brilliant observation. Hurt ppl Hurt ppl
Y’all are out of your minds. I could tell you I’ve never watched First Take back then!!! Because it was hot garbage. Just like maxes Tom Brady take! I think Tom Brady played that long just to spite Max!! Even Molly would call him out on stuff!!
DEF NOT WORSE!! ACTUALLY SH!TTED ON SHANNON about SHANNON'S FOOTBALL PROFESSION ON AIR
STOP IT. Max got his own show. Just couldn’t command the same ratings.
It’s sounds like SA is saying people are too stupid to understand Max but in reality, he’s too stupid to understand him
Lets be honest, it's really both.
The problem has always been that Max is intellectually superior to SAS in every way--and it burned him up inside. Having a white man intellectually outclass him on black issues nationally was too much for his ego to take.
T.O. said what the black audience was feeling and at that moment SAS realized it too.
MW, my brother, you hit this one right on the nail. I literally spoke about this before my podcast about how I would literally watch the show just to see Max disprove Stephen a Smith when it came to “so-called black issues” and I only say so-called because really they everybody issues😅
Bro I used to love first take with Max. It was actually a debate show then. As Marcellus stated, the dynamic with Skip was Stephen A saying what the rest of us thought to debunk or just completely pick apart Skip's outlandish takes. Max articulated his opinions very well and SAS couldn't just be loud or gimmicky enough to combat the sharp points that Max made. It was clear on several occasions that SAS couldn't cope with Max's arguments and it was dimming his starlight in the eyes of viewers. SAS just spinning this web of deception and he's getting lost in it at times.
I agree. Max didn’t give SAS or any of the supporting cast wiggle room to make their points or use their niches. They all rolled their eyes and smacked their teeth. Max is exceptional at making his claim, providing data and then using his knowledge to add backing. SAS used to literally say in the middle of the show some times, Max how am I supposed to respond to that. 🤣
Count me on Team Max-Wiley. Max was too smart and rational for Stephen Clowns show. SAS wanted a Guilty White Beta Male as a punching bag. Max didn’t fill that profile.
MAX WAS TAKING HIS LUNCH EVERYTIME THEY MET....
When Max returns to the biz, he should call his next show "Blacker Than Stephen A!" 😅
And his first interview should be with Terrell Owens. Oops! Might have given a TV exec out there an idea.
Really digging your style of broadcasting. Smart and simple.