To be a product killer, it needs to be available. Currently, it is impossible to buy one. I've been on the waiting list for months. So, no matter how great it is, if you can't buy it, then it is vaporware.
Well sounds like it has a lot of potential, but it sounded like that two years ago. Hopefully they can get software worked out, easier component integration (ir training is a step backwards from Harmony) and get the supply issues smoothed out. Also the charging base should have been separate from the ir blaster. Fingers crossed they get it all figured out, but this still seems a year or two away from a prime time product. Maybe the AVA folks can come up with a $450 step down from thier current remote.
Yes I hope. My Phillips Hue lights work better or a restart of the remote has it able to control them. My biggest issue is not too far away from my UniFi WIFI 6LR AP I’ll have the remote in my game room but WiFi doesn’t reconnect when I pick it back up.
@@jmills3785 I got tired of waiting and looked everyday on Ebay and Facebook Marketplace. I was able to get one that was not used but box opened from what they claimed. I had no issues on it being open box. Still no email and I was August 2022 reservation.
IR learning is great, but it's not new, and the Remote 2 won't learn two of my remotes anywhere. The hardware is fantastic but the software is 100% DIY. What the hell were the devs doing during all those hardware delays?
That I am not sure of. I know no new remotes have went out in awhile. But the remote does all I need. It controls my lights, DirecTv, Blu-Ray player, and Nvidia shield.
@@TheHoff4K It won't learn Lumagen IR codes, the codes provided don't import via Hex or Pronto, this is a non-starter for me. I'm working to get as much as I can integrated to Home Assistant, which should be a much better situation than IR anyway, but I'm also new enough to HA that I have no idea how that will work either. Would love to find someone local to me that I could pay a few hundred bucks to come over and program it.
Get your kids toys out of the theater room! For now using my harmony elite till it dies. Ive tried both sofa baton remotes and they suck. Ive been on the waitlist for 2 years for this remote. Your the first one ive seen who qctually got one.
Lots of people have gotten theirs from the kickstarter. There is a whole discord on this. I was lucky to get mine from someone else that never used it. My reservation email still has not come to buy. And we always clean up the room to watch the movies, so the kids toys around are not a huge deal.
@@darrelldarrell1447 some times I have issues with Philips Hue commands and it connecting to the base. But that is rare and I can rest the base on the bottom and it works after you hold that button down. The ability to add commands with a point and click to the base with the factory remote is amazing. The battery last about a full day of use. It feels way better. I don’t have any big issues with this and no worries on cloud use as it connects to the job and no cloud.
@TheHoff4K I Have 150" alr screen and sprojector. Tripple laser projector and alot of high end audio. The harmony has detected everything including a 1980s DAT tape deck, a 1980s marqntz cd plaAmazon. Marantz sr8015 receiver. Activities are the best part. Even works on my formovie projecter. Workd great with mt ever solo dac streamer. My battery only lasts a day now and wipe probably break down and try one of the batteries on amazon. The harmony elite is just flawless, pisses me off they discontinued it. I bought a broqdlink mr4 pro to see how that works as a replacement. I have an old galaxy note 10 plus I'll use for that. I have both versions of the sofa baton and it's compete garbage. Is wish I could get the remote you have but I've given up hope on getting one.
Impossible to program. What the heck is global cache? Import to Excel and save as a csv? have headers, and in hex? Weak ir. Tiny code database from unfolded circle. $400 for a work in progress-major work in progress. I am very disappointed (can you tell?)
I have all my devices working just fine with this one remote. I can control my Projector although the IR is weak so I have to point at it vs bounce off my screen like the Epson remote. My DirecTv works just great. My Anthem and Nvidia Shield work great as well. I added controls for my SVS subs and the learning IR worked just fine. Sorry you are having issues though. I will say Phillips Hue does not work so well and most of the time errors out. But now I just have an echo in the room for the light control.
Nothing compares to the harmony elite. I have a 120" alr screen with triple laser projector by formovie and it controls it. I have alot of high end home audio stuff and it controls it all. Just tell it the make and model and done. I have both sofa baton remotes and they are shit. Pretty much everyone who has a nice setup loves the harmony. Stick with your 55" Vizio and soundbar kid.
@@darrelldarrell1447 I truly couldn't disagree more. And "kid", I have a full home theater setup with a 4k Sony projector + Multiple Emotiva amps and whatnot. Plus a 120" Hisense projector in my living room running off of my server rack and media switches + LG 65" OLEDs elsewhere. Your setup pales in comparison to mine -- so nice try "kid".
@@darrelldarrell1447 you've already told me you have a crap setup. Emotiva amps are industry leaders, Hisense as a living room short throw had the industry leading tri-chrome laser for years and was the most color accurate when it released. Sony's native 4k projects are top of the market and frankly as good as it gets. I understand you can't afford nice things, but don't look like a fool when revealing it.
@@TheGamingArt Although I love my Harmony Elite and will do so until it dies, I did notice your Anthem pre and power amp stack and that is serious coin and cred for your setup. Sweet!
@@MrUpscaleman the screen can have whatever you like. For my DirecTv the first screen has the number pad on it along with power on and off. But you can change that to whatever. And then you can add more pages to swipe left and right to each page you made. You can also make the screen buttons larger.
Unfolded Circle discord: discord.gg/vzKk5xUY
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@@brainguynyc8729 discord.gg/8pkk6RDr
@@TheHoff4K TY!
To be a product killer, it needs to be available. Currently, it is impossible to buy one. I've been on the waiting list for months.
So, no matter how great it is, if you can't buy it, then it is vaporware.
Yes I will say preorders and a few after went out then it stalled. I have yet to my email. I was lucky to find a reseller at cost.
Well sounds like it has a lot of potential, but it sounded like that two years ago. Hopefully they can get software worked out, easier component integration (ir training is a step backwards from Harmony) and get the supply issues smoothed out. Also the charging base should have been separate from the ir blaster. Fingers crossed they get it all figured out, but this still seems a year or two away from a prime time product. Maybe the AVA folks can come up with a $450 step down from thier current remote.
Yes I hope. My Phillips Hue lights work better or a restart of the remote has it able to control them. My biggest issue is not too far away from my UniFi WIFI 6LR AP I’ll have the remote in my game room but WiFi doesn’t reconnect when I pick it back up.
As long as you have a degree in software engineering, it's great.
I work in IT so it was not hard for me but now all I need can be easily added for most users!
What about HomeKit support?
How long did it take you to get? I reserved my place weeks ago but no word since
Still no email to buy and it has been reserved in August 2022. I got mine from an earlier backer
I reserved my place in September 2022, nothing yet.
@@jmills3785 I got tired of waiting and looked everyday on Ebay and Facebook Marketplace. I was able to get one that was not used but box opened from what they claimed. I had no issues on it being open box. Still no email and I was August 2022 reservation.
IR learning is great, but it's not new, and the Remote 2 won't learn two of my remotes anywhere. The hardware is fantastic but the software is 100% DIY. What the hell were the devs doing during all those hardware delays?
That I am not sure of. I know no new remotes have went out in awhile. But the remote does all I need. It controls my lights, DirecTv, Blu-Ray player, and Nvidia shield.
@@TheHoff4K It won't learn Lumagen IR codes, the codes provided don't import via Hex or Pronto, this is a non-starter for me. I'm working to get as much as I can integrated to Home Assistant, which should be a much better situation than IR anyway, but I'm also new enough to HA that I have no idea how that will work either. Would love to find someone local to me that I could pay a few hundred bucks to come over and program it.
Get your kids toys out of the theater room! For now using my harmony elite till it dies. Ive tried both sofa baton remotes and they suck. Ive been on the waitlist for 2 years for this remote. Your the first one ive seen who qctually got one.
Lots of people have gotten theirs from the kickstarter. There is a whole discord on this. I was lucky to get mine from someone else that never used it. My reservation email still has not come to buy. And we always clean up the room to watch the movies, so the kids toys around are not a huge deal.
@TheHoff4K lol I was just razzing you on the toys. How does it compare to the harmony elite?
@@darrelldarrell1447 some times I have issues with Philips Hue commands and it connecting to the base. But that is rare and I can rest the base on the bottom and it works after you hold that button down. The ability to add commands with a point and click to the base with the factory remote is amazing. The battery last about a full day of use. It feels way better. I don’t have any big issues with this and no worries on cloud use as it connects to the job and no cloud.
@TheHoff4K I Have 150" alr screen and sprojector. Tripple laser projector and alot of high end audio. The harmony has detected everything including a 1980s DAT tape deck, a 1980s marqntz cd plaAmazon. Marantz sr8015 receiver. Activities are the best part. Even works on my formovie projecter. Workd great with mt ever solo dac streamer. My battery only lasts a day now and wipe probably break down and try one of the batteries on amazon. The harmony elite is just flawless, pisses me off they discontinued it. I bought a broqdlink mr4 pro to see how that works as a replacement. I have an old galaxy note 10 plus I'll use for that. I have both versions of the sofa baton and it's compete garbage. Is wish I could get the remote you have but I've given up hope on getting one.
@TheHoff4K just tried out the broadlink pro and even it sucks. Just sell me your remote.
The physical "mute" and "back" buttons ought to be swapped around.
Support for TiVo? What about Elan?
Where I can by?
@@BorisMajetic kickstarter as of now. Here is there site with more information: www.unfoldedcircle.com
Impossible to program. What the heck is global cache? Import to Excel and save as a csv? have headers, and in hex? Weak ir. Tiny code database from unfolded circle. $400 for a work in progress-major work in progress. I am very disappointed (can you tell?)
I have all my devices working just fine with this one remote. I can control my Projector although the IR is weak so I have to point at it vs bounce off my screen like the Epson remote. My DirecTv works just great. My Anthem and Nvidia Shield work great as well. I added controls for my SVS subs and the learning IR worked just fine. Sorry you are having issues though. I will say Phillips Hue does not work so well and most of the time errors out. But now I just have an echo in the room for the light control.
@@TheHoff4K address my concerns; global cache? How to import,etc
I’m just going to openly reiterate that harmony remotes sucked. This doesn’t
Nothing compares to the harmony elite. I have a 120" alr screen with triple laser projector by formovie and it controls it. I have alot of high end home audio stuff and it controls it all. Just tell it the make and model and done. I have both sofa baton remotes and they are shit. Pretty much everyone who has a nice setup loves the harmony. Stick with your 55" Vizio and soundbar kid.
@@darrelldarrell1447 I truly couldn't disagree more. And "kid", I have a full home theater setup with a 4k Sony projector + Multiple Emotiva amps and whatnot. Plus a 120" Hisense projector in my living room running off of my server rack and media switches + LG 65" OLEDs elsewhere.
Your setup pales in comparison to mine -- so nice try "kid".
@TheGamingArt You lost me at emotiva and hisense lolol. No wonder why you don't like the harmony, obvious you like crap and not quality.
@@darrelldarrell1447 you've already told me you have a crap setup. Emotiva amps are industry leaders, Hisense as a living room short throw had the industry leading tri-chrome laser for years and was the most color accurate when it released. Sony's native 4k projects are top of the market and frankly as good as it gets.
I understand you can't afford nice things, but don't look like a fool when revealing it.
@@TheGamingArt Although I love my Harmony Elite and will do so until it dies, I did notice your Anthem pre and power amp stack and that is serious coin and cred for your setup. Sweet!
Is the ir so weak that you need ir extenders when your equipment is 1 foot from the hub?
No the IR is not that weak.
@@TheHoff4K I appreciate the extended video.
Does the screen have a number pad for channel changing?
@@MrUpscaleman the screen can have whatever you like. For my DirecTv the first screen has the number pad on it along with power on and off. But you can change that to whatever. And then you can add more pages to swipe left and right to each page you made. You can also make the screen buttons larger.
@@TheHoff4K sweet. Gonna get one. I'll stay tuned to your page in case you post some tips and tricks.
@@MrUpscaleman I will answer what I can but their discord is also helpful as well!