Vince Staples Dark Times: An Existential Nightmare

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  • Examining the music and philosophy of rapper Vince Staples.
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    Radio Interviews: Hot97, Peter Rosenberg, BigBoi
    Music Videos from the albums: Shyne Coldchain, Summertime '06, Ramona Park Broke My Heart, Vince Staples, Dark Times, Stolen Youth
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  • @kazmaloop
    @kazmaloop  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +117

    For the OGs: If you were here for the first Vince Staples video like this comment!

    • @Haarunh2
      @Haarunh2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Here

    • @lhuss99
      @lhuss99 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You know we here 💯

    • @Yinkv
      @Yinkv 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you made another one

    • @tobiasash9281
      @tobiasash9281 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I been here since the beginning of his career, so you get a stray like

  • @richykamtcheu3551
    @richykamtcheu3551 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +136

    "If we are going to be voyeurs...the least we can do is make eye contact" WOW

    • @felixmk1715
      @felixmk1715 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      This is such a good explanation of what makes Vince's music different than other rappers that "seem" similar. Ever since that bar about rapping the N word out in france for white people "Goin' crazy, got me goin' crazy, I can't get wit' that/Wonder if they know, I know they won't go where we kick it at?"

    • @csmiller12
      @csmiller12 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That was some real shit

  • @SeanLKearns
    @SeanLKearns 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

    Thank you for giving Vince shine. Kendrick does not have to be the only conscious street poet.

    • @kaelthunderhoof5619
      @kaelthunderhoof5619 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There's Denzel Curry and JPEGMAFIA.

  • @chinortega3
    @chinortega3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    I like how you used the show to elaborate as well

  • @vantageva
    @vantageva 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    The last video you did on Vince made me a fan of yours, i know this gonna be a good one. Dark Times is so good.

    • @kazmaloop
      @kazmaloop  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Appreciate it, thank you!

  • @spartan117q13
    @spartan117q13 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Wow really amazing video. Your ability to bring together the story of each of Vinces album alongside the clips from interviews and his show and performances is incredible. Vince staples is one of the most thoughtful artists out there and you analyzed and a displayed his media in a way im sure he would appreciate.

  • @henrichoi749
    @henrichoi749 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    My favorite album of the last few years has been Vince Staples' self titled, got me through a tough time. Your first Vince video brought my love of Vince's music to another level. Thank you for this new one, hoping this explodes because you deserve so much praise man

    • @Bluefavcolor
      @Bluefavcolor 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Self titled helped me a lot too. A true masterpiece

  • @Haarunh2
    @Haarunh2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    What a video man. What a video. Vince staples really an interesting guy the more you pay attention to what he’s trying to say. Think you conveyed that super well

    • @kazmaloop
      @kazmaloop  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Appreciate this, thank you

  • @4nth
    @4nth 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    this video was so good. clip at the end is the perfect ending

  • @lhuss99
    @lhuss99 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Bro this video was a masterpiece! A much deeper and darker perspective on the growth of Vince and subtleties in his already wild body of work- can’t help but think what’s next for his career, and why he might feel compelled to tell his story in yet a different way if the reaction from the audience is anticipated and predictable. 10/10 analysis bruv 💯🔥

    • @kazmaloop
      @kazmaloop  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      means a lot, thank you

  • @smoochi3wallac35
    @smoochi3wallac35 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Amazing analysis! I couldn’t really digest the whole album in its entirety on my own but your video definitely shined a light on things I would’ve never got. 👏🏽👏🏽

  • @jaganshi
    @jaganshi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Helpful video, thank you man and thanks Vince. Big love

  • @TheTriangleOffense47
    @TheTriangleOffense47 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    1:36 Also recalling the cover of one of his early mixtapes, Shyne Coldchain. Which has a noose

    • @kazmaloop
      @kazmaloop  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      great point!

  • @SoulofPimpC
    @SoulofPimpC 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I believe that was Monster Kody's mother speaking on Ramona Park.

  • @Hollywood42081
    @Hollywood42081 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Mac saw how talented Vince was before anyone else.

  • @KashFlow24G
    @KashFlow24G 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    On “government cheese when he’s says “not now” idk if he means to actually smile or wait for all that shit

  • @andwelecastleberry5423
    @andwelecastleberry5423 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Can we get a voir dire breakdown?

    • @kazmaloop
      @kazmaloop  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Earl's on the list so his work will be covered in an essay at some point. Appreciate the suggestion and thanks for staying tuned!

  • @fentanyljones6956
    @fentanyljones6956 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This album is possibly the best ‘polish off a label commitment’ album ever. His last 3 are all top 5 albums in their given release year.

  • @aleksisuuronen5969
    @aleksisuuronen5969 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think the Justin thing is just that ok they are vibing and getting along, it is going really well. Theb for JUST doorbell ringing suddenly there is a gun and an athmosphere of a violence which is ofc shocking, unknown, odd, new to the woman and making her think that who is this guy. Is he dangerous? Are we in danger? Then it's just his cousin and he's bugging out, which is the huge cascade between them in understanding that comes apparent in the moment even tho "the threat" turns out to be nothing.

    • @GeneralHadj
      @GeneralHadj 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah, Justin was the guy she was fxcking

  • @zahkilovett
    @zahkilovett 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    amazing breakdown

  • @ZestyKrisps
    @ZestyKrisps 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You cant put the "rapper" hat on Vince. Hes an artists with a vocabulary and something to say.

  • @VenusianLissette
    @VenusianLissette 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    emptiness is a weird demon to fight, because it’s more akin to a ghost, it feels like something that clings, and doesn’t give any comfort. it’s weird how that works.
    &
    the vince staples show really shines. it feels like the inverse of Atlanta (Glover’s show), where instead of getting abused/demeaned (as Paperboy does) &/or going too fantastical; it hits a sweet spot of “i’m just a person who happens to be an artist” & “i will not allow anyone to use or play with me because i got some $$$/clout”, blended with irl observations/solid jokes. sublime stuff, and i’m grateful you included it.
    thank you.

  • @Tigercam24
    @Tigercam24 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    @20:00 My understanding of "Justin" is that she her bf came home and she introduced Vince as her lil cousin to the boyfriend. That's why he says afterward that "Women lie a lot." Im almost sure she wasnt calling Vince "Baby"

  • @NIGEL341Hilasd
    @NIGEL341Hilasd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Incredible analysis of Vince’s work. Thank you so much

    • @kazmaloop
      @kazmaloop  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      appreciate this, thank you

  • @dontmindme4197
    @dontmindme4197 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    If you listen to his music it’s really for his homies all the most of the songs on this albums is stuff his homies can play and feel some type of way

  • @rachidsylla9655
    @rachidsylla9655 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Super insightful and just another banger by kazama loop 😊

    • @kazmaloop
      @kazmaloop  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Much appreciated, thank you

  • @shoryqwabe4605
    @shoryqwabe4605 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    i just got this video recommended and it's been a wonderful introduction to your channel. When you spoke about how "the courtesy given to strangers = losing out on vulnerability", that was a brilliant statement.

    • @kazmaloop
      @kazmaloop  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Welcome to the channel and appreciate the kind words!

  • @BacchusAurelius-yj4mb
    @BacchusAurelius-yj4mb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Vince has been in my top 3 since his self titled. Absolutely underrated lyricist. Dark Times is my album of the year so far.

  • @MolassesLovesTheEclipse
    @MolassesLovesTheEclipse 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I just realized you changed the title 3 times

  • @SanchoThugging
    @SanchoThugging 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    “Nate” was on Shyne Coldchain vol.2. Not the Stolen Youth tape

  • @Alex-vm6ef
    @Alex-vm6ef 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Top tier video bro

  • @Shuvon95
    @Shuvon95 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I like Vince as a person. The music too slow and not enough for me. Could convey his message better but I get the whole monotone sound and boring flows and beats.

    • @felixmk1715
      @felixmk1715 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You could go back and try the 2015 stuff - Blue Suede, Mamacita, etc

    • @Shuvon95
      @Shuvon95 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@felixmk1715 don’t like doing artist like that. That’s when he was at a low point in his life and to ask for that type of music is kind of fucked up. Plus I don’t live that life.

    • @ZestyKrisps
      @ZestyKrisps 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Youre looking for a rap artist. Thats not Vince. Hes like Kendrick. Youre gonna have to think and look beyond "rap songs" to appreciate it. Gotta grow man.

    • @Shuvon95
      @Shuvon95 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ZestyKrisps he’s not like Kendrick. Kendrick can actually rap

    • @ZestyKrisps
      @ZestyKrisps 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Shuvon95 youre right. Im burning my vince cassettes right now. Thanks for looking out homie

  • @lenanicole2837
    @lenanicole2837 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    6:17 damn it's giving Office Space (1999) Mike Judge, if you know you know XD cool in the car but when the black dude selling flowers comes by lock your doors

  • @POPULISTMAGAZINE
    @POPULISTMAGAZINE 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This made me sick, in a beautiful heartfelt way

    • @kazmaloop
      @kazmaloop  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      appreciate this

  • @AIJ.productions1
    @AIJ.productions1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    His last three projects been phenomenal

  • @YonatanSimie
    @YonatanSimie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Not to be that one guy but im pretty sure his favorite album is below the heavens. great vid tho enjoyed it

  • @Bluefavcolor
    @Bluefavcolor 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In the ghetto I’m a Martian. Crash landing

  • @anglelol7s
    @anglelol7s 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bobthepoppop mentioned 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

  • @queendism
    @queendism 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    wait wym James Baldwin is R&B? and then the traditional black culture in parentheses?

    • @kazmaloop
      @kazmaloop  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Good question, it's a reflection on how Vince describes "good men" as like James Baldwin. And his description of that era of traditional black values as "Rhythm and blues" in his song Radio.

  • @mellowferal5880
    @mellowferal5880 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sheessh ❤

  • @silentsigher
    @silentsigher 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Amazing video

  • @timtalks6080
    @timtalks6080 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Pretty sure the meaning of Justin was that Vince was the “cousin” and she was going to cheat on her actual man with Vince before he got home unexpectedly

    • @timtalks6080
      @timtalks6080 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Great video overall though!

  • @Magdalena8008s
    @Magdalena8008s 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would be so happy. And so many others who have begged content creators to make a video essay on El-P. Rap/production legend. His lyrics are spectacular. And has been an integral part of the ungrounded rap scene. Who late in life sought mainstream success with Run the Jewels while not loosing any bit of what made EL-P, El-P. Along with the copious amount of rappers he introduced the world go. Aesop Rock being one.
    And, potentially an Aesop Rock essay.

  • @MrHibachi21
    @MrHibachi21 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was fantastic bravo bro !

  • @miles8960
    @miles8960 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    beautiful work, this album and vince deserved a well made video (and much more) u were definitely able to deliver

  • @uhwaykin
    @uhwaykin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Vince is not a nihilist. I don’t disagree with a lot of your observations about Vince and his brilliance, but the premise is fundamentally false. Either you misunderstand nihilism, you misunderstand Vince, or both.

    • @kazmaloop
      @kazmaloop  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      🎶 nothing really matters at all 🎶

    • @uhwaykin
      @uhwaykin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kazmaloop is a profound oversimplification of nihilism, but go off I guess.

    • @kazmaloop
      @kazmaloop  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Just joking but I go into more depth in that premise in my other Vince video which might add some context. I think his subject matter is nihilistic, but liken Staples to Nietzsches “ubermensche” who comes out the other side of the abyss.

    • @somekid7
      @somekid7 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@kazmaloopIt seems your colloquial use of the term is a common issue that the rare Nietzschean scholar is perpetually at odds with, since the consensus on nihilism in academia does not accept it as a rejection of a life purpose but rather a cultural shift away from religious fervor and towards a wider variety of philosophy, and the ubermensch is an archetype that illustrates what a person should NOT be.
      The colloquial use of nihilism instead assumes that there is no purpose and the heroism of the ubermensch is upheld as a desirable trait.
      All of this becomes much clearer especially in the context of neo-nazis and fascists who have misused Nietzsche and his ubermensch for their ideological narrative which opposes Nietzsche's own ideas, but unfortunately due to the enthusiastic exchange of those ideals between settler-colonial hegemony and fascist movements - the colloquial misuse of nihilism has become dominant in the cultural narrative. I know that sounds crazy, but you could talk about anything declassified by the CIA (e.g. Operation Paperclip) and come off as crazy.

  • @Demsky83
    @Demsky83 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    5:13 A regression? Nah Eggman, this one’s a classic.

  • @sfeedz
    @sfeedz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this vids up there for suree🙌🏾🔥

  • @AtomiccMuffin
    @AtomiccMuffin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great analysis 🔎

  • @jesseherrera642
    @jesseherrera642 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    that white son and mom rapping along was perfect timing to this video and it cracked me up

    • @Haarunh2
      @Haarunh2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Fr man that part was odd and hilarious at the same time

  • @zaynabmohamed130
    @zaynabmohamed130 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I Love this video is Amazing keep it good work man

    • @kazmaloop
      @kazmaloop  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you!

  • @xAntoIRL
    @xAntoIRL 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don't listen to these music critics online

  • @lithamoshoeshoe4641
    @lithamoshoeshoe4641 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What a deep dive! This is world-class work and attention to detail. I cant imagine how many hours or days of editing and writing this was but it was worth it for such an immaculate video.🙌

  • @VideoSolutionsbyCalebThomas
    @VideoSolutionsbyCalebThomas 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I tried to enjoy this album but it’s just boring