What works for Landau is that he captured the feel and spirit of Lugosi, and his general presence, PERFECTLY, without doing an exact imitation or a caricature. That's the mark of a great actor, and that's why Martin Landau deserved the Oscar.
PonyHorton I totally agree, which is why comparisons here are kind of inaccurate. It’s not two actors playing the same role in different ways but Landau playing Lugosi the actor. He was trying to capture the feel of Lugosi at the time/context, *not* trying to do a better job in delivering these lines, per se.
sad that Bela's son thinks Ed Wood just "took advantage of" Bela and "ebarrassed him in bad movies"... I agree with Greg: Ed gave Bela some great lines and made him feel important again. Ed was a true fan of Bela. nothing wrong with that. Landau totally deserved his Oscar for this.
When legend becomes fact, I really don't care what the real story is. Some said Bela was still a drug actict, but I also heard he was still rich. I know some say he was typecast and he was sick of Dracula,but he was barried in the cap
Landau inhabits the role of Lugosi, with uncanny accuracy, and not a whiff of caricature. They are both brilliant. Landau deserved his Oscar; Lugosi should have gotten one, even posthumously.
If the academy was right on their mind they would have given him the Oscar for Dracula in 1931, even if you watch the spanish version, you can tell the huge difference between Lugosi and the spanish actor.
The whole thing of this was that Ed Wood, as cheesy as his movies were, gave this great man a bit of happiness in his old age. God bless Ed Wood for making Bela feel wanted and needed , not washed up; and we see from the scene that he was still a GREAT actor. repaet: God Bless Ed Wood for making Bela happy . .
This shows that Bela Lugosi is a fantastic actor, because he did all of that perfectly in one take as many of Ed Wood's movies were shot that way [one shot].
Seeing Martin Landau's wonderful performance has { Happily} led me to a far more respected and deeper view of Lugosi's original, what an actor Lugosi was, he was a romantic lead for many years and then he landed that part that made him both famous and shackled. I'm so glad to see his work appreciated by many more people who otherwise may have missed it
Landau was wonderful in that roll, but Bela...there isn't even a comparison. He is legendary. That he could pull that much pathos and emotion out of those lines shows the caliber of the actor he was!
Landau won an Oscar, deservedly so, for portraying Lugosi, yet when compared to the actual person, the latter clearly gave the superior performance. That is a testament to Lugosi’s skill as an actor. Truly legendary.
Landau was great. But no one will ever duplicate Bela's wonderful and expression filled voice. In 1931's Dracula, he showed just how great he was as an actor and a voice. RIP.
'Ed Wood' is not meant to be a realistic retelling of his life. Instead it was meant to be an A picture done in the spirit of a D picture. Landau's performance isn't meant to be entirely accurate, but appropriate to the style and feel of Burton's movie. Lugosi does show his professionalism in the actual footage and he didn't treat his role with anything less than he could.
What I see in Landau's re enactment of the Lugosi scene is that Bela actualiy performed it with a little more subtlety than the way Landau portrayed it. However, Landau nailed it the second time around!
And you can see him forcing the W in "world" so that he says it as "world and not "vurld" -- it seems he tried very hard to keep those Hungarian Vs out of his diction.
thank you for this similar scenes, I have write to both (the biopic movie from 1994 and to Plan 9 from outer space, 1959) some reviews, already before years, and now I have upload it as a video review, with a narrator
Landau out-Bela-ed Bela; except for the laugh at the end. That laugh is the patented Bela laugh - "Ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ahh!"- which was properly parodied by the Count on Sesame Street.
Martin Landau won an Oscar AND a Golden Globe in the same year for his performance in Ed Wood. Yes, Bela Lugosi's performance as *Dr Vornoff* is better, but Landau is playing Lugosi primarily.
i dose not matter how many times i see that speech it gives me the chills the first time and this time Martin Landau this is his greatest roll so quoteable and funny i think he got an oscar for it (at least nominated for it) fine work one of my fav movie ever
Landua’s performance is worthy, but there is no eclipsing the original, all one has to do is observe Lugosi’s dynamic phasing and then there is the laugh. I think one of the hardest skills an actor can develop is a convincing and genuine laugh. Lugosi effortlessly shows us he is a master of the laugh, which still impresses and even still scares us a little till this day.
There is an old time radio show with a mad scientist who did exactly this, ie trying to create a race of superhumans. It is called "The Giant Walks" by 2000 plus. You can listen to it on youtube. It aired 11/8/50 and "Bride of the Monster" started production in 1953. I'm pretty sure Ed Wood "borrowed" the idea from that show, especially as the dates are very close. Just compare this line from the radio show "We're building a race Weston, a race of super men with which we can rule the world." To the line from this movie: "I will perfect my own race of people, a race of atomic super men which will conquer the world." Ed wood just rewrote the line a little. There is also a radio show with an old lady reading a comic, when asked the title of it, she says "the clone wars." I'm pretty sure George Lucas got the name of his movie from that. This isn’t the first time I’ve noticed this…in one of the pink panther movies (NOT ed wood, of course), the joke about the dog (does your dog bite? no. I thought you said your dog didn’t bite? That is not my dog.) is taken word for word from a jack benny program. Not a surprise, considering Blake Edwards was heavily involved in the radio scene (he wrote scripts for Richard Diamond, Private Detective). Sellers was also active in Radio as well (the goon show). I’m sure they both loved jack benny and did it as a nod to him. There is so much great material that society has forgotten about. If you know about it, you can tap into it and everyone will think you're very clever and it's your original material. For example, you could memorize jokes from the jack benny show and everyone will think you're hilarious.
Anne Reilley -all art, music, fashion, etc is “borrowed” from something or someone else. This is the way it has been since the beginning of time. If something is directly copied then it is plagiarism. If the idea is borrowed and then altered or improved on in some way then it’s just the progression and evolution of art. No one has an idea that is completely “original” ever! As an artist myself I spend lots of time looking at other art for inspiration. This is how it works. Peace ✌🏼
@@BPRbuster True, but some of it is taken word for word from the radio show. He didn't change the plot of the radio show, just added to it. It would be like if you baked a cake and I added some icing to it and said it was mine. But ed wood didn't have a problem with taking other people's material.
These are some of my favorite lines in a movie. (I know!). Perhaps bc the title sets it up, but the comparisons of the actors don’t make that much sense to me. It’s not the same job. They may deliver the same lines, but the the *fact* is they are playing different parts. Non-trivial distinction. Landau was trying to capture Lugosi, sometimes whilst acting, but not exclusively. When playing a known/famous people, there’s a delicate balance between imitation and interpretation. A bit too much of either, things can turn uncanny, or even fall apart. Landau, IMO, got it right with Lugosi. This video is great in allowing us to see the lines in different contexts. I just think keeping those (differing contexts) in mind helps to better appreciate the work of *both* actors! Just my $0.02! :)
Marty Landau is fantastic, no one could do that part better. Lugosi, however...now we're talking old-school masterful. He takes the absolute lousiest writing and third-rate camera work and delivers a performance that makes one's hair stand up. My GOD, the emotion! This reminds me of hearing something like "Little Wing" played by Stevie Ray Vaughn. Yeah, sounds great! THEN you hear the first two seconds of Jimi Hendrix' version and it's like "OK, never mind."
Notice the way Lugosi puts his head down and pauses for sympathy before leading into the "I have no home" line. His performance is more subtle at this point. Martin Landau is too good an actor to do an exact copy, and has his own style, but he captures the feeling and deserved his Oscar. Lugosi actually pronounces the word "world" pretty well if you listen carefully.
Ed was a True Fan and Bela was given a sad summary to say, encapsulating how he felt about his post-Dracula film career. If he could have just relaxed a little and accepted his place in cinematic history, like Karloff, then perhaps he could have enjoyed his life more. Nevertheless, after almost a century, his Count remains.
True. I do agree that the problem with Lugosi was his pride but in a way, it wasn't his fault. In Hungary, he played a variety of roles and was a prolific actor. He played roles like Romeo in Romeo and Juliet and Jesus in passion play. When he came to the U.S. and became a star after Dracula, he thought he was still that prolific actor who thought he could play anything but what he didn't realize was that Hollywood was different than the Hungarian National Theater as well as its rising film industry at the time Lugosi was still in Hungary. Actors were treated differently in Hollywood with some either becoming big stars no star, or in Lugosi case, typecast depending how well they played certain roles like Dracula. Despite that, Universal did have plans for Lugosi to be their star of horror films while at Warner Brothers, Cagney and Robinson who like Lugosi were typecast, but embraced their role as gangsters and they became stars of crime films which led to them being cast in different films outside the crime genre. If Lugosi had embraced his role as a horror star as you said, he could've been something bigger. It's interesting to point out that Warner brothers and universal had their trio of stars. Warner brothers had Cagney, Robinson and Bogart for their gangster films while Universal had Lugosi, Karloff and Chaney jr. for their horror films.
Ever since I noticed, it always gets me now that in Ed Wood they replaced "and I will show the world that I can be its master. I will perfect..." with "but I shall show the world that I can be its master. I shall perfect..." Did those "shalls" really add anything to the speech? It seems like they were a bit fuzzy on the memory of actual lines of dialogue from Ed Wood's movies in a few places. It's still one of my favourite movies but I have to nitpick the more I watch it. :P
To be fair Martin's version had to be timed to fit into the scene, he couldn't have fitted those long moments of it deep thought into the movie in the street, he was wonderful but I agree, Lugosi's performance was inspired
Yes, Bela Lugosi's hands were absolutely unearthly. He was a tall man, and his hands were quite large. I'm not quite sure what Mr. Landau did, but no way could all his fingers naturally be the same length, as it was in this reenactment.
Well to be fair to Laundau it's hard to act liek another person because only that person cna fully act like themselves, but he was fantastic still and he definately deserved that Oscar. But Bela... wow. I cna't believe he never got an Oscar. Even in Wood's films he was great. Just that look and voice he did when he started his lines. He had a sad look growing more and more intense and evil while Laundau looked evil from the start. Laudau is great at impersonating him, but Lugosi is Lugosi.
It’s sad that Lugosi’s son could not see the love for his father in this film. There is no comparing Lugosi with Landau. When I see Bela Lugosi stalk and prowl the scenes and use his voice both to purr and as a powerful weapon, I’m convinced immediately no matter what film he was in. He was a unique actor, sadly wasted and trashed by the Hollywood system. Landau is a marvellous actor and very intelligent in approaching this role. It’s not an imitation or caricature, rather he makes Lugosi his own, individual character. I’m sure he said that in trying to do the voice he is a Hungarian trying to lose his accent. Very subtle but very smart. So watching Lugosi in Ed Wood is very satisfying if you accept him as a character in Tim Burton’s wonderfully camp and exaggerated version of 1950’s Hollywood. The fact that Landau said in his acceptance speech that the Oscar’s shadow goes to Lugosi speaks volumes for the sincerity of the man and should have made Lugosi Jr. proud. Now… “Pull the String!!!”
for some reason Landau felt more like Bela Legosi in that speech then Bela did. Im questioning my sanity with every passing moment as I consider that thought. Crisswell: I predict that- Oh shut up!
Landau's is good but Lugosi seems more calm and settled... Landau seemed to have rushed it in to much and some of the dialogue dosen't really match Lugosi's word for word... But still what steals the show and why I think Lugosi is better is the evil laugh at the end! Don't get me wrong Landau's is good to but Lugosi is the all time best!
I'm Italian, I love the film ed wood, but the Italian dubbing reserved for this film was treated worse than a cartoon on TV...fortunately, there are multilingual dvds.
Martin Landau was a great man. No doubt in my mind. But, Bela Lugosi ? Although , Landau came close, and as close as anyone could ever possibly do it, Lugosi was in a league of his own . Bela Lugosi was a brilliant actor. So was Landau , but Bela? So much emotion and feeling even in a gesture or movement of his hand or head . . Sheesh!
"Home? I have no home. Hunted... despised... living like an animal. The jungle is my home! But I will show the world that I can be its master. I shall perfect my own race of people... a race of atomic supermen that will conquer the world!"
Bela Lugosi. Once he was a star in Austrian Hungary, but did he think back than about had been ending his life as a b movie star? Who ever thinked about movies back in those times? How many lives may be lived just in a human lifespan. Thanks to 20th century.
It's so ironic that Landau, perfect as he was, got an Oscar for virtually becoming a man who was never even nominated, and Lugosi should have been nominated for the 1934 version of "The Black Cat". His performance in that was brilliant, and there has rarely been such palpable pain onscreen. This comparison shows that Landau was great, but Lugosi was genius. Wood's dialogue in the scene was utter shit. Landau makes it funny as hell. Lugosi makes it genuinely poignant. He was truly brilliant.
Yes, the Black Cat is an intense movie. I saw that movie as a kid back in the early 70's. Both Lagosi & Karloff were so good. And how Lagosi kills Karloff in the end.
Both were good I would have to give the edge to Lugosi. Landau's rendition looked well rehersed but lacked non verbal expression. When you look at Lugosi you catch far more non verbal ques as to the emotion.
Rich Eaton The overall comparisons of the actors don’t make that much sense (like, they’re not playing the same part), but I agree in some sense. Perhaps because Landau made Lugosi feel more human than ever in this role. (More human, not necessarily completely ;))
Landau's performance works great in the context of the film, where Lugosi is a caricature of himself and an intended comedic character. It's a tremendous performance, but it is not a recreation of how Lugosi really was. It's too OTT and many gestures in many scenes were different. I'd love to know if this was the intention, or if Landau simply wasn't able to memorize Lugosi's gesturers and way of speech properly.
PiCheZvara -Landou researched Lugosi’s speech patterns to a T. He first learned Hungarian then intentionally tried to “cover up” the accent because Lugosi always tried to play down his accent because he was very subconsciously it. It served him well for his Dracula role but after that it hurt his career. This is something he downplayed his entire acting career. Maybe if he had taken on some voice coaches it might have boosted his early career and he wouldn’t have died a penniless morphine addict. His life and acting career were so tragic. He was a brilliant stage and screen actor and it is a shame that Hollywood chewed him up and spit him out like they did so many other tragic figures. Bela was the very first Hollywood actor to publicly come out as a drug addict in treatment. Today Hollywood is full of non-talented hacks that have a small percentage of the talent that old-school Hollywood actors such as Lugosi had. I wish Bela had been celebrated more during his heyday as a leading man then Hollywood portrayed him as. Shame on Hollywood-SHAME!!!
No I think Martin would easily re create Bels's gestures and speech, the original is much longer, those long soul searching stops would have spoiled the flow of the modern movie.
Too bad Hollywood didn't seize the moment after Bela's appearance in Ernst Lubisch' "Ninotchka" with Greta Garbo (1939). He nailed his role as the Russian Kommisar. From that point he should have been given juicy roles as the sophisticated central European that he was. If only.
He was just as popular as Karloff, in some occasions, maybe more popular. When he played Karloff's role in Arsenic and the Old Lace, his version of the play drew more money than Karloff's did. In addition, Lugosi basically saved Universal from bankruptcy thanks to his role in Dracula, which allowed them to make Frankenstein which became a much greater success. But even if that was the case, without Dracula, there would be no Frankenstein. He outperfomred Karloff in the Black Cat, the Raven and especially Son of Frankenstein. Don't get me wrong, Karloff was just as good, but I left Lugosi had more presence and charisma in his films. Unfortunately, Hollywood only cared about his name which was the only reason why he was kept under contract, rather than for his talent and what he could really do. Even with that though they treated him badly by putting him in a supporting or minor role while giving him first or second billing. Had he not died, he would've definitely had a career revival as horror films were making a comeback in the late 50s and throughout the 60s, something that Karloff was able to enjoy. Hell, I think he could've done well playing old wise men or as a mentor to a young character. He had that personality about him.
Bela Lugosi died over 50 years ago, yet there are few people on the planet who don't know who he is. Why? Because he was part of the masterpieces created by the entertainment corporations of the 30's & 40's better known as Movie Studios. Today's garbage are poor re-creations left over from the studio's junk yard.
What works for Landau is that he captured the feel and spirit of Lugosi, and his general presence, PERFECTLY, without doing an exact imitation or a caricature. That's the mark of a great actor, and that's why Martin Landau deserved the Oscar.
PonyHorton I totally agree, which is why comparisons here are kind of inaccurate. It’s not two actors playing the same role in different ways but Landau playing Lugosi the actor. He was trying to capture the feel of Lugosi at the time/context, *not* trying to do a better job in delivering these lines, per se.
sad that Bela's son thinks Ed Wood just "took advantage of" Bela and "ebarrassed him in bad movies"... I agree with Greg: Ed gave Bela some great lines and made him feel important again. Ed was a true fan of Bela. nothing wrong with that. Landau totally deserved his Oscar for this.
Yes.
There were others who took advantage of bela in worse films then what Ed was trying to make
Because you were there and knew exactly what Ed Wood's motivations were? I don't think so.
When legend becomes fact, I really don't care what the real story is. Some said Bela was still a drug actict, but I also heard he was still rich. I know some say he was typecast and he was sick of Dracula,but he was barried in the cap
Ed woods was a huge fan of Bela he never took advantage of him they were true friends just a shame that wood was a shabby director
Landau inhabits the role of Lugosi, with uncanny accuracy, and not a whiff of caricature.
They are both brilliant.
Landau deserved his Oscar; Lugosi should have gotten one, even posthumously.
I couldn’t agree with you more!!👍👍👊🏼👊🏼😃
If the academy was right on their mind they would have given him the Oscar for Dracula in 1931, even if you watch the spanish version, you can tell the huge difference between Lugosi and the spanish actor.
RIP to both of these incredibly talented actors.
The whole thing of this was that Ed Wood, as cheesy as his movies were, gave this great man a bit of happiness in his old age. God bless Ed Wood for making Bela feel wanted and needed , not washed up; and we see from the scene that he was still a GREAT actor. repaet: God Bless Ed Wood for making Bela happy . .
Vampira said that too she liked working with him even though his dialogue and special effects were awful
This shows that Bela Lugosi is a fantastic actor, because he did all of that perfectly in one take as many of Ed Wood's movies were shot that way [one shot].
The best of both "volds"! :)
Ha ha ha, very good
I never cease to admire how Lugosi managed to put such an emotion to this monologue, considering that the line itself was completely stupid and flat.
Most of movie scripts are THAT stupid {especially If Rian Johnson writes them} lol
It isn't if you've been exiled...
What? I absolutely love this line!!
@@RonWylie-gk5lc Are you saying that Looper and Knives Out are stupid?
Ed Wood is one of the most underrated films of all time
Seeing Martin Landau's wonderful performance has { Happily} led me to a far more respected and deeper view of Lugosi's original, what an actor Lugosi was, he was a romantic lead for many years and then he landed that part that made him both famous and shackled.
I'm so glad to see his work appreciated by many more people who otherwise may have missed it
Landau was wonderful in Ed Wood
Landau cathces the essence with less sadness, Lugosi with far more. Both are awesome.
Landau was wonderful in that roll, but Bela...there isn't even a comparison. He is legendary. That he could pull that much pathos and emotion out of those lines shows the caliber of the actor he was!
Wow, Bela Lugosi did a great job imitating Martin Landau. He must be a good actor.
Brilliant, Brilliant, Brilliant, This guy totally rocked in Ed wood, It was amazing, thanks imbra
Landau kicked ass in this... but Lugosi was a God.
Landau won an Oscar, deservedly so, for portraying Lugosi, yet when compared to the actual person, the latter clearly gave the superior performance.
That is a testament to Lugosi’s skill as an actor. Truly legendary.
Landau does the impossible here, give him credit.
Landau brilliantly embodies Lugosi. But when you watch Bela he really is truly mesmerizing. It's astounding.
I love both of these guys so much.
Landau was great. But no one will ever duplicate Bela's wonderful and expression filled voice. In 1931's Dracula, he showed just how great he was as an actor and a voice. RIP.
I unironically like the speech apart from the race of atomic super men obviously but the delivery is just brilliant
Both absolutely fantastic! Landau was a PERFECT Bela Lugosi!
Martin Landau was amazing.
Two great performances from two great actors. May they both rest in peace.
Well said:
Bela Lugosi R.I.P
Martin Landau R.I.P
When Bela was in trouble, No one came to lift a finger to help him, except crazy Ed Wood . Don’t write off the crazy ones. ! ! ! :-)
Love from Hungary ❤❤
Are U kidding? Just in that little part U saw Bela's masterful acting!
BTW, Martin Landau had already played a Dracula-like charachter in the mid-Sixties, pre-Mission Impossible, on The Man From Uncle.
'Ed Wood' is not meant to be a realistic retelling of his life. Instead it was meant to be an A picture done in the spirit of a D picture. Landau's performance isn't meant to be entirely accurate, but appropriate to the style and feel of Burton's movie. Lugosi does show his professionalism in the actual footage and he didn't treat his role with anything less than he could.
Bela Lugosi is amazing...............
brings back memories.. Thanks for the upload.. RIP M L & B L.. //
Love Bela! Fantastic actor and the best Dracula! ❤️
Art imitating life imitating art. Brilliant! Thanks for posting ...
What I see in Landau's re enactment of the Lugosi scene is that Bela actualiy performed it with a little more subtlety than the way Landau portrayed it. However, Landau nailed it the second time around!
Both did a great job, but Lugosi's laugh is unrivalled.
Notice how Landau says "vorld", while Bela says "world".
And you can see him forcing the W in "world" so that he says it as "world and not "vurld" -- it seems he tried very hard to keep those Hungarian Vs out of his diction.
thank you for this similar scenes, I have write to both (the biopic movie from 1994 and to Plan 9 from outer space, 1959) some reviews, already before years, and now I have upload it as a video review, with a narrator
ps. sorry, only on german, my native language, but I have activated subtitles
Landau out-Bela-ed Bela; except for the laugh at the end. That laugh is the patented Bela laugh - "Ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ahh!"- which was properly parodied by the Count on Sesame Street.
Martin Landau won an Oscar AND a Golden Globe in the same year for his performance in Ed Wood. Yes, Bela Lugosi's performance as *Dr Vornoff* is better, but Landau is playing Lugosi primarily.
i dose not matter how many times i see that speech it gives me the chills the first time and this time Martin Landau this is his greatest roll so quoteable and funny i think he got an oscar for it (at least nominated for it) fine work one of my fav movie ever
Bela Lugosi nailed it.
My goodness Bela Lugosi's hands are fucking huge and his fingers are really long... Making his horror roles even better!
Landua’s performance is worthy, but there is no eclipsing the original, all one has to do is observe Lugosi’s dynamic phasing and then there is the laugh. I think one of the hardest skills an actor can develop is a convincing and genuine laugh. Lugosi effortlessly shows us he is a master of the laugh, which still impresses and even still scares us a little till this day.
There is an old time radio show with a mad scientist who did exactly this, ie trying to create a race of superhumans. It is called "The Giant Walks" by 2000 plus. You can listen to it on youtube. It aired 11/8/50 and "Bride of the Monster" started production in 1953. I'm pretty sure Ed Wood "borrowed" the idea from that show, especially as the dates are very close.
Just compare this line from the radio show "We're building a race Weston, a race of super men with which we can rule the world." To the line from this movie: "I will perfect my own race of people, a race of atomic super men which will conquer the world." Ed wood just rewrote the line a little.
There is also a radio show with an old lady reading a comic, when asked the title of it, she says "the clone wars." I'm pretty sure George Lucas got the name of his movie from that.
This isn’t the first time I’ve noticed this…in one of the pink panther movies (NOT ed wood, of course), the joke about the dog (does your dog bite? no. I thought you said your dog didn’t bite? That is not my dog.) is taken word for word from a jack benny program. Not a surprise, considering Blake Edwards was heavily involved in the radio scene (he wrote scripts for Richard Diamond, Private Detective). Sellers was also active in Radio as well (the goon show). I’m sure they both loved jack benny and did it as a nod to him.
There is so much great material that society has forgotten about. If you know about it, you can tap into it and everyone will think you're very clever and it's your original material. For example, you could memorize jokes from the jack benny show and everyone will think you're hilarious.
Anne Reilley -all art, music, fashion, etc is “borrowed” from something or someone else. This is the way it has been since the beginning of time. If something is directly copied then it is plagiarism. If the idea is borrowed and then altered or improved on in some way then it’s just the progression and evolution of art. No one has an idea that is completely “original” ever! As an artist myself I spend lots of time looking at other art for inspiration. This is how it works.
Peace ✌🏼
@@BPRbuster True, but some of it is taken word for word from the radio show. He didn't change the plot of the radio show, just added to it. It would be like if you baked a cake and I added some icing to it and said it was mine. But ed wood didn't have a problem with taking other people's material.
These are some of my favorite lines in a movie. (I know!).
Perhaps bc the title sets it up, but the comparisons of the actors don’t make that much sense to me. It’s not the same job. They may deliver the same lines, but the the *fact* is they are playing different parts. Non-trivial distinction. Landau was trying to capture Lugosi, sometimes whilst acting, but not exclusively.
When playing a known/famous people, there’s a delicate balance between imitation and interpretation. A bit too much of either, things can turn uncanny, or even fall apart. Landau, IMO, got it right with Lugosi.
This video is great in allowing us to see the lines in different contexts. I just think keeping those (differing contexts) in mind helps to better appreciate the work of *both* actors! Just my $0.02! :)
Much as I think Landau deserved the Oscar, I like Bela's reading of this scene better... that's not a diss toward Martin, but a tribute to Lugosi
Amen.
Nice editing!
Marty Landau is fantastic, no one could do that part better.
Lugosi, however...now we're talking old-school masterful. He takes the absolute lousiest writing and third-rate camera work and delivers a performance that makes one's hair stand up. My GOD, the emotion!
This reminds me of hearing something like "Little Wing" played by Stevie Ray Vaughn. Yeah, sounds great! THEN you hear the first two seconds of Jimi Hendrix' version and it's like "OK, never mind."
Notice the way Lugosi puts his head down and pauses for sympathy before leading into the "I have no home" line. His performance is more subtle at this point. Martin Landau is too good an actor to do an exact copy, and has his own style, but he captures the feeling and deserved his Oscar. Lugosi actually pronounces the word "world" pretty well if you listen carefully.
The "W" is a bit soft, but you can tell he's forcing it through, probably out of habit, so as not to lapse into a Hungarian "V" on the word "world".
Ed was a True Fan and Bela was given a sad summary to say, encapsulating how he felt about his post-Dracula film career. If he could have just relaxed a little and accepted his place in cinematic history, like Karloff, then perhaps he could have enjoyed his life more. Nevertheless, after almost a century, his Count remains.
True. I do agree that the problem with Lugosi was his pride but in a way, it wasn't his fault. In Hungary, he played a variety of roles and was a prolific actor. He played roles like Romeo in Romeo and Juliet and Jesus in passion play. When he came to the U.S. and became a star after Dracula, he thought he was still that prolific actor who thought he could play anything but what he didn't realize was that Hollywood was different than the Hungarian National Theater as well as its rising film industry at the time Lugosi was still in Hungary. Actors were treated differently in Hollywood with some either becoming big stars no star, or in Lugosi case, typecast depending how well they played certain roles like Dracula. Despite that, Universal did have plans for Lugosi to be their star of horror films while at Warner Brothers, Cagney and Robinson who like Lugosi were typecast, but embraced their role as gangsters and they became stars of crime films which led to them being cast in different films outside the crime genre. If Lugosi had embraced his role as a horror star as you said, he could've been something bigger. It's interesting to point out that Warner brothers and universal had their trio of stars. Warner brothers had Cagney, Robinson and Bogart for their gangster films while Universal had Lugosi, Karloff and Chaney jr. for their horror films.
wow Burton even duplicated the wallpaper
Ever since I noticed, it always gets me now that in Ed Wood they replaced "and I will show the world that I can be its master. I will perfect..." with "but I shall show the world that I can be its master. I shall perfect..." Did those "shalls" really add anything to the speech? It seems like they were a bit fuzzy on the memory of actual lines of dialogue from Ed Wood's movies in a few places. It's still one of my favourite movies but I have to nitpick the more I watch it. :P
Real Lugosi's laugh is much better
To be fair Martin's version had to be timed to fit into the scene, he couldn't have fitted those long moments of it deep thought into the movie in the street, he was wonderful but I agree, Lugosi's performance was inspired
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Yes, Bela Lugosi's hands were absolutely unearthly. He was a tall man, and his hands were quite large. I'm not quite sure what Mr. Landau did, but no way could all his fingers naturally be the same length, as it was in this reenactment.
Well to be fair to Laundau it's hard to act liek another person because only that person cna fully act like themselves, but he was fantastic still and he definately deserved that Oscar. But Bela... wow. I cna't believe he never got an Oscar. Even in Wood's films he was great. Just that look and voice he did when he started his lines. He had a sad look growing more and more intense and evil while Laundau looked evil from the start. Laudau is great at impersonating him, but Lugosi is Lugosi.
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It’s sad that Lugosi’s son could not see the love for his father in this film. There is no comparing Lugosi with Landau. When I see Bela Lugosi stalk and prowl the scenes and use his voice both to purr and as a powerful weapon, I’m convinced immediately no matter what film he was in. He was a unique actor, sadly wasted and trashed by the Hollywood system.
Landau is a marvellous actor and very intelligent in approaching this role. It’s not an imitation or caricature, rather he makes Lugosi his own, individual character. I’m sure he said that in trying to do the voice he is a Hungarian trying to lose his accent. Very subtle but very smart. So watching Lugosi in Ed Wood is very satisfying if you accept him as a character in Tim Burton’s wonderfully camp and exaggerated version of 1950’s Hollywood. The fact that Landau said in his acceptance speech that the Oscar’s shadow goes to Lugosi speaks volumes for the sincerity of the man and should have made Lugosi Jr. proud. Now… “Pull the String!!!”
both amazing
Most well deserved Oscar ever.
Bela Lugosi, aka Aristide Olt, birth-name Bela Ferenc Blasko, Hungarian by birth, born in Lugos, now in Romania. He was buried in his infamous cape.
Jeez-I'd hate to live on the difference between these two masterful readings...
for some reason Landau felt more like Bela Legosi in that speech then Bela did. Im questioning my sanity with every passing moment as I consider that thought.
Crisswell: I predict that-
Oh shut up!
If bela s movie was nominated for best actor I think that bela would have won the greatest badass Oscar worthy performance of all time
I love this movie!!!
Landau's is good but Lugosi seems more calm and settled... Landau seemed to have rushed it in to much and some of the dialogue dosen't really match Lugosi's word for word... But still what steals the show and why I think Lugosi is better is the evil laugh at the end! Don't get me wrong Landau's is good to but Lugosi is the all time best!
Rest in Power!
Both rocks!!
2 VUNDERFUL cuts of ham.
Bela Lugosi. Master.
I'm Italian, I love the film ed wood, but the Italian dubbing reserved for this film was treated worse than a cartoon on TV...fortunately, there are multilingual dvds.
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Lugosi is head and shoulders above Landau here.
Martin Landau was a great man. No doubt in my mind. But, Bela Lugosi ? Although , Landau came close, and as close as anyone could ever possibly do it, Lugosi was in a league of his own . Bela Lugosi was a brilliant actor. So was Landau , but Bela? So much emotion and feeling even in a gesture or movement of his hand or head . . Sheesh!
Landau knocked it out of the park.
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Mr. Landau also needs to work on his R's a bit. A Hungarian always rolls it off the very tip of his tongue.
"Home? I have no home. Hunted... despised... living like an animal. The jungle is my home! But I will show the world that I can be its master. I shall perfect my own race of people... a race of atomic supermen that will conquer the world!"
Conkver the vould? His accent is hilarious, I can't believe that hasn't earned millions with that
This was a tricky role to cast. Lugosi was a small man, and Landau was a large man. But he gave it his best shot, and did fairly well.
Lugosi in his prime was 6'1 or 6'2. Age, illness and drug addiction diminished him.
Fairly well? SMH. Oscar winner.
Landau was far less than Lugosi; but reminds us of his brilliance.
The real Bela's accent actually wasn't as thick as we remember...
I have to say it's pretty close. I'd say props to Landau for technique but Bela has the charisma.
Bela Lugosi. Once he was a star in Austrian Hungary, but did he think back than about had been ending his life as a b movie star? Who ever thinked about movies back in those times? How many lives may be lived just in a human lifespan. Thanks to 20th century.
It's so ironic that Landau, perfect as he was, got an Oscar for virtually becoming a man who was never even nominated, and Lugosi should have been nominated for the 1934 version of "The Black Cat". His performance in that was brilliant, and there has rarely been such palpable pain onscreen.
This comparison shows that Landau was great, but Lugosi was genius. Wood's dialogue in the scene was utter shit. Landau makes it funny as hell. Lugosi makes it genuinely poignant. He was truly brilliant.
Yes, the Black Cat is an intense movie. I saw that movie as a kid back in the early 70's. Both Lagosi & Karloff were so good. And how Lagosi kills Karloff in the end.
Not only that movie, but he should've also been nominated for Dracula, The Raven, and Son of Frankenstein.
Both were good I would have to give the edge to Lugosi. Landau's rendition looked well rehersed but lacked non verbal expression. When you look at Lugosi you catch far more non verbal ques as to the emotion.
Landau makes a better Lugosi than Lugosi.
Rich Eaton The overall comparisons of the actors don’t make that much sense (like, they’re not playing the same part), but I agree in some sense. Perhaps because Landau made Lugosi feel more human than ever in this role. (More human, not necessarily completely ;))
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Lugosi Béla a magyar Drakula ❤❤❤
Funny how they saw it as necessary to change the the words.
Martin Landau looks more like Lugosi than Lugosi himself.
Landau's performance works great in the context of the film, where Lugosi is a caricature of himself and an intended comedic character. It's a tremendous performance, but it is not a recreation of how Lugosi really was. It's too OTT and many gestures in many scenes were different.
I'd love to know if this was the intention, or if Landau simply wasn't able to memorize Lugosi's gesturers and way of speech properly.
PiCheZvara -Landou researched Lugosi’s speech patterns to a T. He first learned Hungarian then intentionally tried to “cover up” the accent because Lugosi always tried to play down his accent because he was very subconsciously it. It served him well for his Dracula role but after that it hurt his career. This is something he downplayed his entire acting career. Maybe if he had taken on some voice coaches it might have boosted his early career and he wouldn’t have died a penniless morphine addict. His life and acting career were so tragic. He was a brilliant stage and screen actor and it is a shame that Hollywood chewed him up and spit him out like they did so many other tragic figures. Bela was the very first Hollywood actor to publicly come out as a drug addict in treatment. Today Hollywood is full of non-talented hacks that have a small percentage of the talent that old-school Hollywood actors such as Lugosi had. I wish Bela had been celebrated more during his heyday as a leading man then Hollywood portrayed him as. Shame on Hollywood-SHAME!!!
No I think Martin would easily re create Bels's gestures and speech, the original is much longer, those long soul searching stops would have spoiled the flow of the modern movie.
Bela had good timing. Better than Landau.
Bela was treated horribly by Hollywood.
That's right as I won't argue with that one since it's been stated for several decades!
Too bad Hollywood didn't seize the moment after Bela's appearance in Ernst Lubisch' "Ninotchka" with Greta Garbo (1939). He nailed his role as the Russian Kommisar. From that point he should have been given juicy roles as the sophisticated central European that he was. If only.
He was just as popular as Karloff, in some occasions, maybe more popular. When he played Karloff's role in Arsenic and the Old Lace, his version of the play drew more money than Karloff's did. In addition, Lugosi basically saved Universal from bankruptcy thanks to his role in Dracula, which allowed them to make Frankenstein which became a much greater success. But even if that was the case, without Dracula, there would be no Frankenstein. He outperfomred Karloff in the Black Cat, the Raven and especially Son of Frankenstein. Don't get me wrong, Karloff was just as good, but I left Lugosi had more presence and charisma in his films. Unfortunately, Hollywood only cared about his name which was the only reason why he was kept under contract, rather than for his talent and what he could really do. Even with that though they treated him badly by putting him in a supporting or minor role while giving him first or second billing. Had he not died, he would've definitely had a career revival as horror films were making a comeback in the late 50s and throughout the 60s, something that Karloff was able to enjoy. Hell, I think he could've done well playing old wise men or as a mentor to a young character. He had that personality about him.
@@buffalopatriot Even before Dracula, he played a whole variety of roles on stage and film other than horror films.
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Ed Woods was a genius in his reincarnation of Bela Lugosi & I dare say Bela would have enjoyed it!
Some confusion, surely?
Home? I have no home. The arctic tundra is my home. 🥶
Bela Lugosi died over 50 years ago, yet there are few people on the planet who don't know who he is. Why? Because he was part of the masterpieces created by the entertainment corporations of the 30's & 40's better known as Movie Studios. Today's garbage are poor re-creations left over from the studio's junk yard.
ed/bela.r.i.p.
Rice of People? The San Francisco treat?
I love both performances.
How about BL doing ML?