I've never actually heard a good explanation for why everything recent looks so evenly lit and shallowly staged before. But shooting for coverage and deciding everything is post makes a lot of sense.
It's either evenly lit or overly shadowed. Man of steel looks overly shadowed and saturation downed a bit and this looks evenly lit and colors pop a bit.
What happens is due to coverage they end up using multiple cameras. Which means you cannot tweak lighting for a close up because you might have a camera in a two shot and two over the shoulders. A good DOP would tweak lighting a bit for close ups to light the eyes beautifully (in the context of the film). Now it’s just drab and boring. Lighting and composition is what makes a frame beautiful. Another disadvantage is that with multiple cameras your angles get restricted because cameras can tend to be in each others fields of view. So single camera is the best.
I think it looks great & it's clear that Gunn is keeping his style really similar to how Gotg 3 & The Suicide Squad were shot. I think ppl need to chill.
I've watched scores of reviews and this is the first one that said "it's clear that many people don't like it"..those are butt hurt snyder bros. Reviewers have been crying tears of joy over this teaser
@@bofawhatsbofa4593 I don't know if Critical Drinker is a "Snyder Bro" but I definitely would not value his opinion on pretty much anything. I've never seen him give a review on anything that wasn't just blatantly misunderstanding the film/show and whining over nothing.
My theory is people have gotten so used to the gray scale of mcu movies and other movies that have copied them for the last 10 years that the moment they see actual color in a movie their brains explode
@@megatronsroyalemissary382 he’s objectively wrong though? As shitty as most of the MCU is, most of its movies are not grayscale and even look better than this CW slopfest
That's exactly what I expected from James Gunn. Since Superman stands for optimism and so on, the look makes perfect sense. The perfect counterpoint to Zack Snyder's dark interpretation. And it was kind of a foregone conclusion that the film would be so colourful. James Gunn has found his style since THE SUICIDE SQUAD and has continued to perfect it. The Kaijū you see in the trailer is also very James Gunn. He has my full trust.
@@JuJuDen47 have you never picked up a super man comic or know what colours superman wears? It's literally blue and red. They are naturally bright reflective colours😂
@@amacho1320What are you on about? The Guardians of the Galaxy movies have all made over 700mil worldwide, maybe not literally every person ever loves them but they aren't widely disliked by any means
What i like about it is the high contrast lighting that really helps the colors pop. So many things released today have such flat lighting, this has very intention lighting
I don't know how you're comparing a nano tech suit with a movie visual. It doesn't make any sense and also don't forget ironman 1,2&3 suit up scenes and they did it way back in 2008.
@@fascinateandilluminate You didn't mention costumes anywhere in your comment. How am I supposed to know? You said clean I thought you're talking about visuals. No way you're thinking that a full grown man wearing an underwear outside his pants is looking more clean than marvel's nano tech. Whatever man you and your taste.
@@pz47 Personally i think nanotech ruined Marvel´s suits. All the nanotech suits look futuristic and and overdesigned, and maybe that looks good on ironman, but when lots of superheros in the same movie wears them it becomes boring, because you dont have much variation either in the concepts. It´s like all of them have this angular design and each movie they have more lines . We have the entire ant-man family, black panther, war machine, spiderman, iron man, now falcon also has it. It reflects more on the helmets, because its like they dont exist now, the y just add them in post and so the actors dont act with them, and then ends up feeling weird in the movie. I saw that a lot in Antman quantumania. In this movie the suits are also kind of overdesign, but i like that they look like actual real suits that break and get dirty and fold when superman moves and not armors or futuristic tech. idk maybe im just overthinking it.
@@straycat2550 If you're comparing DC suits with marvel suits. No one can argue DC did it better. I understand your point nano tech suit made the entire suit design lazy but u have to consider the story plot also. Without nano suit ironman could have never fought thanos. But I don't see anything original or new in the superman suit. It's comic accurate I get it but comparing nano tech with this suit doesn't make sense.
They also have seven months until the film comes out, leaving themselves a lot of time to do post production work on the film. I feel this has been done on purpose to see what the reaction to the teaser was.
I’m glad it’s a brighter film. We’ve had too many dark superhero films lately and I always think of Superman in a positive and uplifting manner compared to something like Batman. I hope this gets DC back on track.
The best way I can describe how good I think it actually looks, is that it looks more like Superman than Superman has looked since the original movies, and not just because of the costume design.
personally I do feel that the color balance is leaning too much on the blue, but I adjusted my screen's color temperature to "movie mode" and it actually evened out the color balance and helped the reds pop out much more
In my opinion, keeping it simple makes it more classic. I get that, people are criticising it for its 'not so specific' cinematography and saturated color grading but for a Superman movie, it looks good. The visually simple and classic take by James Gunn, gives it a 'fresh' vibe - if it makes sense.
I'm more excited for The Fantastic Four: First Steps and Tron Ares this coming year but I thought this trailer for SUPERMAN was good. It feels like James Gunn's Guardians Of The Galaxy trilogy but in a DC lense. It's different as I've read it's supposed to be a Donner type film, referring to SUPERMAN (1978) according to James Gunn. This doesn't need to be dark with this SUPERMAN like Zack Snyder did or the campy 2000s Smallville show. I like how this feels like the comics or the animated DC movies we've gotten.
I'm not holding my breath with marvel lately, I love F4 but I've been burned by them in the past. Gunn has always delivered at least an entertaining movie imho.
@@yderga8707I don't think the 2005-2007 F4 was that bad imo but the 2015 I was burned by. We'll see if this iteration of the F4 delivers! I was entertained too by James Gunn's GOTG trilogy!
@@isaiahvoss I'm a big fan of the 2000s F4 movies. Sure they weren't at the same level as modern day comic films, but they had such an inexplicable charm to them. I loved Chris Evans as Johnny storm and the silver surfer was awesome. Its really just the new age marvel stuff that I dont trust anymore. But it looks like they're putting good effort into the artistic style and casting.
It's bright and bold. I'm embracing it after the full teaser trailer we just got today. Valid points you made with the flat look that's taken over Hollywood.
I get an old school vibe on this. I love the blur they've used to show his speed/movement. This is an interesting looking movie based on the trailer. I am in.
I love the Guardians trilogy because of how zany and colorful they are when compared to other MCU features, so I'm glad Gunn is carrying that element to the DCU.
It’s great. Superman is a symbol of hope. Hope is bright. Hope is vibrant. I went into it not expecting anything specific and have come away excited. DC may finally have their massive hit.
I immediately noticed how it looked and thought it was very cool and unique. Made me think about how similarly and blandly most movies/tv shows are shot.
The cinematography in the trailer looks amazing. It's one of the main reasons why this is the first Superman movie I actually want to watch in theaters.
Thank god you are saying this oud loud. I am so glad i can enjoy things for what they are. Something new ... I like it. Not everything has to be the same. At first glance i thougt its weird. After seeing it many times it starts to grow on me.
I love the colors they're using. The contrast is bright; similar to the optimism one might feel when thinking of Superman. Cant recall the last time ive been more excited for a DCEU film other than The Suicide Squad
I like that the aesthetic of this movie so far is bright and colorful without feeling gaudy. Metropolis looks like New York without feeling like a carbon copy, they pulled off a faithful modern suit with the trunks, and the cinematography looks great.
I feel like I might be alone in thinking it’s still on the drab side? It’s graded a little too blue, and the colours really could pop more. I dunno, maybe I have a totally different bar for ‘colourful’. I was raised on 50s musicals, just completely florid Technicolor and only a few films in recent decades have come close to that since.
U know people clicked this video had the same thought. Even i was thinking why the trailer looks wierd on certain scenes where it looked raw & the editing was not completed. I was so used to the cinematic epic tones in all recent movies this looked wierd.
It's simple. Superman is supposed to be a symbol of hope and is a hero. How do you feel when there's a hero? You feel like the world is a better, brighter place, not dark and continuously filled with superheroes fighting amongst themselves like BvS or Black Adam or JL (briefly).i hope this movie completely embraces the vibrance and simplicity it showed in the trailer, cuz not all superhero movies have to be a big fan service to a cinematic universe
Everyone ive seen dislike the grading has remarked on it looking like an afterthought with too much teal/orange and not enough vibrancy throughout the scenes. Everyone ive seen who likes it thinks its a reaction to overly dramatic cold and dark sets and sees it as classic comic book aesthetic. Personally I don’t like whats been done here. This reminds me of CW content and the dreary look reminds me of Twilight 😂 we moved to the dreary look because teal and orange was so overdone but ended up shortcutting on lighting technique which I feel was done well here. I think better examples of good color are found far outside the superhero genre, but if we’re only looking at marvel and action films of late then I’d concede more color and intentional lighting is absolutely welcome. In the end, I do not believe this edit hits the mark quite enough as an example to follow.
@@UltraBrian again you don't accepting other's opinions lol, probably you were one of those that couldn't stop complaining about Snyder's color grading.
Superman is supposed to be bright, colorful, and vibrant. This films seems to be aiming for that which is great. It will be really interesting to see what’s done with Batman The Brave and the Bold and how that contrasts with Superman 2024 and Matt Reeves’ The Batman. Man of Steel was dark and gritty, Snyder’s Batman was also dark and gritty. So there was like 0 contrast between those two characters, and while I actually really like parts of Batman v Superman, I am way more excited to see this new World’s Finest onscreen together in this iteration!
me personally, i think this style is a bit of a hit or miss. some shots it looks too saturated (?) and the blue is too blue (if that makes sense) but there are other shots that just looks great and straight out of a comic panel. It's something Ive noticed with Gunn's past 2 films which i love and adore, but the colours and camera movement and framing and stuff can get a bit too much for me personally (i much prefer the look and feel of the first two gotg films), but i would be lying if i said I didn't enjoy the action scenes form gotg 3 and tss more than vol 1 and 2. there's defo some hits and misses but damn when it hits it hits and that's what matters
If you use a 50mm lens on a full-frame camera, you're not actually "seeing 50mm", you're seeing what a 50mm lens see's on a full-frame sensor. There's a distinction
If I had to describe why I think the look feels off to me , between the contrast and the highlights it gives the impression they're rendered it in the wrong color space, or they just crushed it in post far too hard Still super excited to see this movie, it just looks very poorly balanced to my eyes (not that I'm a professional or anything) Looking forward for the vistavision video!
Believe the color grading works well with this story. Agree it needs to have color. A majority of the scenes were actually filmed in Cleveland.(Home of Superman's comic creators.) Saw some of the stores fronts, building interiors, and streets used during filming.
With Superman getting Yamcha'd frame 1 and the absolute strangeness of certain shots, I'm sold man. I can feel an exuberance to the filmmaking. It's inspired. It's lifting my spirits honestly
I LOVE LOVE LOVE the way it looks. I think partially people think it looks cheap because wide angle field of view lenses (14-21mm) are more often visually associated with TH-cam videos and vloggers and they're not used to seeing them used on closeups in films, which more often opt for longer lenses for such shots (50mm). Obviously not without exception, but it's an association thing. I think it looks great. So stoked. GUNN DOESN'T MISS.
Disney forking over money to "totally real" accounts spamming garbage on everything related to this film "Why no orchestral version of 80s pop song, 10 million jokes and angsty disgruntled female protagonist?"
I really appreciated the way you talked about this. A lot of people on youtube who talk about cinematography on youtube seem to focus purely on the technical side and ignore that it’s all about what works with the narrative. So it's great that you specifically referenced how the 90s Fincher style works for Batman, and this hyperreal style could work for Superman just like it did in Guardians 3
This is pretty much what I just filmed tonight for my own channel 😅 But yeah, Superman is bright, he’s hope. It’s about colour and about being better than we are about looking up an aspiring to be more than our existence - the cinematography is telling a Super story, not because it’s super heroic (though it is) but Superman. It’s “more than”x
@ this is probably going to be the dumbest thing I’ve said in regards to film/TV but the visuals in this film obviously have James Gunns fingerprint all over it, but I’m also picking up some hints of Michael bay. Some of the color grading is reminding me of The Boys too. Overall, I’m here for it
Personally, I'm not a fan of the cinematography style for this film, as well as for The Suicide Squad, since it has that TV movie/CW feel to it. Looks too cheap in some aspects. But, I appreciate this breakdown. Your take on The Batman's cinematography is still one of my favorite videos on the platform.
It looks bright and sunny, which is what Superman is supposed to be like. I don't like the dark aesthetic we'd been getting for DCEU. Now we're getting the bright comic colours. No complaints!
This is Superman and I like how the trailer looked. Favourite shot was Supermsn saving the girl, you can see the bright colours and it suits the character. He is the symbol of hope, the light!
I would still prefer if it wasn’t overly blue, yellow and empty. That wide angle lense is a bit much to use for what seems to be a lot of the movie. Maybe once I see the movie it will fall into place but for now not the biggest fan
I love how James Gunn approaches colour grading and I really look forward to seeing the story too. But I miss the time when filmmakers used a 35mm camera, with grains and a depth of field that feels real.
My main question is: If Clark Kent has a perm, does he carry a hair straightener in his suitcase?. Cause that hair ain't gonna smooth itself after just a quick flight over Metropolis.
I saw your tweet about the camera they used & after watching your youtube analysis i have to say i appreciate you more! Good putting a name to a face/video.. you speak with knowledge! My thoughts on trailer… This Superman universe has that unique James Gunn vibe to it! Something new & fresh but it also reminds me of Donner’s Superman with him bleeding.. he’s feeling what it is like to be human & have the world against him & you know Krypto will warm your heart! Can’t wait!
Just found ur channel im an editor and i gotta say ur explanation on why so many films and shows are flat is spot on . Happy I found this great channel and look forward to more content 🙏
The colour grading is so perfect. Brings out the "personality" of Superman, Metropolis perfectly. Don't forget that interspersed with this, are the soft tones and timbre of the romantic moments with Lane (candle light romance anyone?). Thus the are appropriate and variety in the grading to suit various moments. I am, for one, excited to see this movie come 2025!
I think I'm in the same boat as you. I'm here for punchy colors. We've had enough LOG looking stuff over the last decade. Considering one of the main inspirations for this film and the DCU in general is the late 90s/2000s Justice League Unlimited cartoons, the color and cinematography are perfectly fitting.
To understand the full package, we don't need to look any further than what Gunn has done with Suicide Squad, Peacemaker and the Guardians trilogy. This is going to visually pop. It will be fun, hopeful and a solid first entry to the new 'DCU'. Let's not let another iteration fall apart. First we bid farewell to Routh, then Cavill (huge loss). Let's not let this one go as well.
My issue is more to do with the lighting in some shots. Feels too studio lit and fake that it kinda pulls me out of the movie. The heavy use of wide angle lenses is a creative choice sure, but Im personally not a big fan of that. It feels like so much stuff coming out of hollywood these days is shot with wides and im tired of seeing it. Sometimes it contributes to that fake video gamey look, but thats just my taste i guess. And another issue I have is the overuse of CGI. A lot of shots obviously need it, but then why did Krypto need to be CGI? They couldnt film a real dog for the close ups and mediums? Really? It's painfully noticeable. All that being said, im still looking forward to the film because the story looks promising.
I had some difficulties with how crisp and clean it looks but at least it's not those two plus flat. There are colors, contrast, style, like everything you want from a distinctive cinematography. It looks good!
It looks like a CW show. With everything in full brightness and no shadows and evenly lit so that CGI is easier to implement. But it also looks like there is no lighting artists or cinematography to create a feel with the frame. It feels very.... corporate. It feels like corpos went "More brightness, we cant see anything, people wont like darker tones and shadows MORE LIGHT"
All-Star Superman was in the inspo and that comic was very bright. So I get the look. My only gripe is that the Guy Gardner (Green Lantern) shot feels uninspired blocking-wise.
Im def of the Nolan vibe, i love the more realistic grounded grading, but thats bc of the stories i love. However the grading for THIS world of Sup makes sense bc JG however is very COLORFUL, and hes bringing it back to the animated version to me. I hope Darkseid & Doomsday really brings that level of darkness to it, bc if it does its gonna really make a huge impact. But something i hate that a lot of youtubers fall for is making everything saturated without it making sense for the story. The best colorist are the ones who understand making story match story.
Looks artificial to me. The Sam Raimi Spider-Man films felt both real and had a heightened sense of reality that this doesn't give me. Regardless, I hope the movie is good
I think you're spot on. There is something unique, vibrant and different about the visuals. It screams hope and upliftment. That's exactly what we need!
Matt Reeves and James Gunn need to come together and bring Battinson and SuperSwet together in the same universe. The contrast in styles needs to be a thing in the new DCU. Not ever hero’s movie needs to feel the same. Then when we have a JL movie, we can get a beautiful amalgamation of all those styles. Not so it feels tonally confused but rather complex and nuanced.
Totally with you on the color grading but the wide angle is reminding me of the other wide angle dc movie (the flash) and im really hoping it doesnt look as atrocious
Just looking at these shots its clear that way more effort is going into fighting and action choreography. Flash was a butchered film at the ass end of a dying franchise, it was gutted three times and put back together which is why half the movie looked cheap and had PS2 level graphics.
This is how metropolis is supposed to like a sunny beautiful chaotic city
Looks like Los Santos
Then why is it so BLUE???
@@dogwithashotgun574 Cause it's REALLY sunny
Looks like shit
Sunny days don't have to be bland
I've never actually heard a good explanation for why everything recent looks so evenly lit and shallowly staged before. But shooting for coverage and deciding everything is post makes a lot of sense.
It doesn’t look evenly lit to me it just looks good
It's either evenly lit or overly shadowed. Man of steel looks overly shadowed and saturation downed a bit and this looks evenly lit and colors pop a bit.
What happens is due to coverage they end up using multiple cameras. Which means you cannot tweak lighting for a close up because you might have a camera in a two shot and two over the shoulders.
A good DOP would tweak lighting a bit for close ups to light the eyes beautifully (in the context of the film).
Now it’s just drab and boring. Lighting and composition is what makes a frame beautiful. Another disadvantage is that with multiple cameras your angles get restricted because cameras can tend to be in each others fields of view.
So single camera is the best.
@@isaiahskates6587 Hes talking about other shows and movies, not superman
I think it looks great & it's clear that Gunn is keeping his style really similar to how Gotg 3 & The Suicide Squad were shot. I think ppl need to chill.
I've watched scores of reviews and this is the first one that said "it's clear that many people don't like it"..those are butt hurt snyder bros. Reviewers have been crying tears of joy over this teaser
@@martymarl4602 Uh.. I don't follow. Are you sure you wanted to reply to my comment?
@@Comicbroe405 I agree with your comment. I was just referring to the narrator
@@martymarl4602nerdorotic, critical drinker, out spoken Snyder haters, were unimpressed. But to you, they are “snyderbros”🥴
@@bofawhatsbofa4593 I don't know if Critical Drinker is a "Snyder Bro" but I definitely would not value his opinion on pretty much anything. I've never seen him give a review on anything that wasn't just blatantly misunderstanding the film/show and whining over nothing.
My theory is people have gotten so used to the gray scale of mcu movies and other movies that have copied them for the last 10 years that the moment they see actual color in a movie their brains explode
Great way to dismiss the critique towards the movie by making a nonsensical comment about the MCU 🤣
@@3n3j0t4 He said it was a theory…and by your emotional response he’s definitely on to something.
I'd hardly say that MCU movies are gray scale, they're kind of all over the place in terms of their tone and color gradients
@@megatronsroyalemissary382 he’s objectively wrong though? As shitty as most of the MCU is, most of its movies are not grayscale and even look better than this CW slopfest
@@3n3j0t4MCU movies ARE grayscale. Look at Civil War, Infinity War or Cap 2, etc. They all look gray.
That's exactly what I expected from James Gunn. Since Superman stands for optimism and so on, the look makes perfect sense. The perfect counterpoint to Zack Snyder's dark interpretation.
And it was kind of a foregone conclusion that the film would be so colourful. James Gunn has found his style since THE SUICIDE SQUAD and has continued to perfect it. The Kaijū you see in the trailer is also very James Gunn. He has my full trust.
The man Who shot Guardian of Galaxy 1 and 2 the best in Visuals now choose Over polished Color 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
His The Suicide Squad also Sucks
@@JuJuDen47if you didn’t like it that’s cool 👍🏾
@@JuJuDen47 Snyderbot detected
@@JuJuDen47 jack snyder is not going to return. its time you accept it
@@JuJuDen47 have you never picked up a super man comic or know what colours superman wears? It's literally blue and red. They are naturally bright reflective colours😂
It looks like a comic book ... I'm all for that
No, it looks like Shazam 2... Look how Batman looks and compare it to this. This looks like a cheap student movie.
Why are people acting like they’ve never seen a James Gunn movie. Literally everybody loves the guardians movies. He has a very signature visual style
Snyder fanboys
Those people who are a member of Snyder cult
@@GurksTheGamerjames Gunn fanboys assume everyone loved those movies lol
@@amacho1320What are you on about? The Guardians of the Galaxy movies have all made over 700mil worldwide, maybe not literally every person ever loves them but they aren't widely disliked by any means
Not to mention all three of them out-grossed Man of Steel
What i like about it is the high contrast lighting that really helps the colors pop. So many things released today have such flat lighting, this has very intention lighting
I love how clean it is. In my opinion, it is way better than marvels nano tech suits that they have.
I don't know how you're comparing a nano tech suit with a movie visual. It doesn't make any sense and also don't forget ironman 1,2&3 suit up scenes and they did it way back in 2008.
@pz47 You are talking about the visual am talking about their costumes.
@@fascinateandilluminate You didn't mention costumes anywhere in your comment. How am I supposed to know? You said clean I thought you're talking about visuals. No way you're thinking that a full grown man wearing an underwear outside his pants is looking more clean than marvel's nano tech. Whatever man you and your taste.
@@pz47 Personally i think nanotech ruined Marvel´s suits. All the nanotech suits look futuristic and and overdesigned, and maybe that looks good on ironman, but when lots of superheros in the same movie wears them it becomes boring, because you dont have much variation either in the concepts. It´s like all of them have this angular design and each movie they have more lines . We have the entire ant-man family, black panther, war machine, spiderman, iron man, now falcon also has it. It reflects more on the helmets, because its like they dont exist now, the y just add them in post and so the actors dont act with them, and then ends up feeling weird in the movie. I saw that a lot in Antman quantumania. In this movie the suits are also kind of overdesign, but i like that they look like actual real suits that break and get dirty and fold when superman moves and not armors or futuristic tech. idk maybe im just overthinking it.
@@straycat2550 If you're comparing DC suits with marvel suits. No one can argue DC did it better. I understand your point nano tech suit made the entire suit design lazy but u have to consider the story plot also. Without nano suit ironman could have never fought thanos. But I don't see anything original or new in the superman suit. It's comic accurate I get it but comparing nano tech with this suit doesn't make sense.
They also have seven months until the film comes out, leaving themselves a lot of time to do post production work on the film. I feel this has been done on purpose to see what the reaction to the teaser was.
I’m glad it’s a brighter film. We’ve had too many dark superhero films lately and I always think of Superman in a positive and uplifting manner compared to something like Batman. I hope this gets DC back on track.
The best way I can describe how good I think it actually looks, is that it looks more like Superman than Superman has looked since the original movies, and not just because of the costume design.
that trailer gives me major goosebumpies
Why? It looks cheap AF - just like the first trailer for Shazam 2...
Yeah true bro it looks like low budget worst acting movie@@crvlad
personally I do feel that the color balance is leaning too much on the blue, but I adjusted my screen's color temperature to "movie mode" and it actually evened out the color balance and helped the reds pop out much more
In my opinion, keeping it simple makes it more classic. I get that, people are criticising it for its 'not so specific' cinematography and saturated color grading but for a Superman movie, it looks good. The visually simple and classic take by James Gunn, gives it a 'fresh' vibe - if it makes sense.
I'm more excited for The Fantastic Four: First Steps and Tron Ares this coming year but I thought this trailer for SUPERMAN was good. It feels like James Gunn's Guardians Of The Galaxy trilogy but in a DC lense. It's different as I've read it's supposed to be a Donner type film, referring to SUPERMAN (1978) according to James Gunn. This doesn't need to be dark with this SUPERMAN like Zack Snyder did or the campy 2000s Smallville show. I like how this feels like the comics or the animated DC movies we've gotten.
I feel like FF will be a good contender to this film. Both seem to have a similar spirit.
I'm not holding my breath with marvel lately, I love F4 but I've been burned by them in the past.
Gunn has always delivered at least an entertaining movie imho.
@@yderga8707I don't think the 2005-2007 F4 was that bad imo but the 2015 I was burned by. We'll see if this iteration of the F4 delivers! I was entertained too by James Gunn's GOTG trilogy!
@@isaiahvoss I'm a big fan of the 2000s F4 movies. Sure they weren't at the same level as modern day comic films, but they had such an inexplicable charm to them.
I loved Chris Evans as Johnny storm and the silver surfer was awesome.
Its really just the new age marvel stuff that I dont trust anymore. But it looks like they're putting good effort into the artistic style and casting.
I like dark stuff too much so I’m too biased but it doesn’t look terrible or bad at all tho
It's bright and bold. I'm embracing it after the full teaser trailer we just got today. Valid points you made with the flat look that's taken over Hollywood.
Something in me definitely stirred when I realized why he was whistling. I'm fully in it for that reason alone
It's more similar to superman(1978) rather than man of steel (2013).
They are not inspired by zack Snyder.
They are going into retro mode.
Doesn’t look retro, looks overly digital
I get an old school vibe on this. I love the blur they've used to show his speed/movement. This is an interesting looking movie based on the trailer. I am in.
It looks pretty similar to the color in The Suicide Squad. I just wish there was more of a golden hour look to metropolis.
It is showing the golden hour look to Metropolis dude, re-watch the trailer dude.
I love the Guardians trilogy because of how zany and colorful they are when compared to other MCU features, so I'm glad Gunn is carrying that element to the DCU.
It’s great. Superman is a symbol of hope. Hope is bright. Hope is vibrant. I went into it not expecting anything specific and have come away excited. DC may finally have their massive hit.
Some of the angles and framing remind me of The Flash movie but more polished and organized chaos.
People don't realize how much Marvel and Snyder "trained" them on how a big budget movie should look. I'm glad Gunn is showing us otherwise.
I love Marvel but most of their films are so flat, Snyder is different. You can clearly see in his movies how he highlight certain colors.
I immediately noticed how it looked and thought it was very cool and unique. Made me think about how similarly and blandly most movies/tv shows are shot.
I was so glad the color grading and framing have PERSONALITY. I agree with everything you said
I mean it's colorful but I don't get why it's so blue, which gives kind of a cold feel to it. Maybe it's because Superman is blue
@@MILOPETITI think the idea is that it mimics that vintage comic book look
The cinematography in the trailer looks amazing. It's one of the main reasons why this is the first Superman movie I actually want to watch in theaters.
Why is no one talking about Nathan Fillion with a comic accurate bowl cut
Looks so stupid
It's supposed to looks stupid, like the comics @@smellybreeze
It's colored in the Guardians Of The Galaxy coloring imo. That is what I instantly think of when I seen it.
2:40 hollywood discovers the zoom lens
Thank god you are saying this oud loud.
I am so glad i can enjoy things for what they are.
Something new ... I like it.
Not everything has to be the same.
At first glance i thougt its weird.
After seeing it many times it starts to grow on me.
I love the colors they're using. The contrast is bright; similar to the optimism one might feel when thinking of Superman. Cant recall the last time ive been more excited for a DCEU film other than The Suicide Squad
I call it Gunn's Bloom Aesthetic
Why bloom
@@AlbertBalbastreMorte All his recent movies have this anamorphic surreal dreamy aesthetic
I like that the aesthetic of this movie so far is bright and colorful without feeling gaudy. Metropolis looks like New York without feeling like a carbon copy, they pulled off a faithful modern suit with the trunks, and the cinematography looks great.
My first look at it make me instinctively feel like it's a High budget Tv show
Exactly, not bad but looks like a high budget Prime or Disney plus show
I feel like I might be alone in thinking it’s still on the drab side? It’s graded a little too blue, and the colours really could pop more. I dunno, maybe I have a totally different bar for ‘colourful’.
I was raised on 50s musicals, just completely florid Technicolor and only a few films in recent decades have come close to that since.
I think it’s mostly the outdoor shots that look bad
I agree! Should be brighter
U know people clicked this video had the same thought. Even i was thinking why the trailer looks wierd on certain scenes where it looked raw & the editing was not completed. I was so used to the cinematic epic tones in all recent movies this looked wierd.
Everyone said the same thing for Cavil's suit 😂.
It's simple. Superman is supposed to be a symbol of hope and is a hero. How do you feel when there's a hero? You feel like the world is a better, brighter place, not dark and continuously filled with superheroes fighting amongst themselves like BvS or Black Adam or JL (briefly).i hope this movie completely embraces the vibrance and simplicity it showed in the trailer, cuz not all superhero movies have to be a big fan service to a cinematic universe
It's very 2000s. It looks like Raimi's first Spiderman movie. So alive.
IMO Spider-Man had better looks than this and it's a 20 years old movie. Still holds up.
@@josedavidcastillo9241 don't judge a cover by the book
Everyone ive seen dislike the grading has remarked on it looking like an afterthought with too much teal/orange and not enough vibrancy throughout the scenes.
Everyone ive seen who likes it thinks its a reaction to overly dramatic cold and dark sets and sees it as classic comic book aesthetic.
Personally I don’t like whats been done here. This reminds me of CW content and the dreary look reminds me of Twilight 😂 we moved to the dreary look because teal and orange was so overdone but ended up shortcutting on lighting technique which I feel was done well here.
I think better examples of good color are found far outside the superhero genre, but if we’re only looking at marvel and action films of late then I’d concede more color and intentional lighting is absolutely welcome. In the end, I do not believe this edit hits the mark quite enough as an example to follow.
Stop complaining about the color grading my god lol.
@@UltraBrian again you don't accepting other's opinions lol, probably you were one of those that couldn't stop complaining about Snyder's color grading.
I’m having the same feeling from when I watched the trailer from The Batman. As in “Now this looks visually distinct and now I need to watch it”.
Superman is supposed to be bright, colorful, and vibrant. This films seems to be aiming for that which is great. It will be really interesting to see what’s done with Batman The Brave and the Bold and how that contrasts with Superman 2024 and Matt Reeves’ The Batman. Man of Steel was dark and gritty, Snyder’s Batman was also dark and gritty. So there was like 0 contrast between those two characters, and while I actually really like parts of Batman v Superman, I am way more excited to see this new World’s Finest onscreen together in this iteration!
me personally, i think this style is a bit of a hit or miss. some shots it looks too saturated (?) and the blue is too blue (if that makes sense) but there are other shots that just looks great and straight out of a comic panel. It's something Ive noticed with Gunn's past 2 films which i love and adore, but the colours and camera movement and framing and stuff can get a bit too much for me personally (i much prefer the look and feel of the first two gotg films), but i would be lying if i said I didn't enjoy the action scenes form gotg 3 and tss more than vol 1 and 2.
there's defo some hits and misses but damn when it hits it hits and that's what matters
If you use a 50mm lens on a full-frame camera, you're not actually "seeing 50mm", you're seeing what a 50mm lens see's on a full-frame sensor. There's a distinction
Reactions seem to be like 60% positive,thats my estimate from what i am seeing.
The rest are like 25% mixed reactions and 15% negative
If I had to describe why I think the look feels off to me , between the contrast and the highlights it gives the impression they're rendered it in the wrong color space, or they just crushed it in post far too hard
Still super excited to see this movie, it just looks very poorly balanced to my eyes (not that I'm a professional or anything)
Looking forward for the vistavision video!
I think I gotta just adjust to his new costume but other then that the cinematography looks amazing
I do agree. It looks way more natural that the generic smudge given by the LED Volume screens.
Believe the color grading works well with this story. Agree it needs to have color. A majority of the scenes were actually filmed in Cleveland.(Home of Superman's comic creators.) Saw some of the stores fronts, building interiors, and streets used during filming.
The color grading really does remind me of The Flash movie. Like ESPECIALLY in the apartment scene where Clark and Lois are making out
With Superman getting Yamcha'd frame 1 and the absolute strangeness of certain shots, I'm sold man. I can feel an exuberance to the filmmaking. It's inspired. It's lifting my spirits honestly
I LOVE LOVE LOVE the way it looks. I think partially people think it looks cheap because wide angle field of view lenses (14-21mm) are more often visually associated with TH-cam videos and vloggers and they're not used to seeing them used on closeups in films, which more often opt for longer lenses for such shots (50mm). Obviously not without exception, but it's an association thing.
I think it looks great. So stoked. GUNN DOESN'T MISS.
It looks bright and hopeful and triumphant and what Superman should be
Wow, he broke glass! Overpowered 😂
😂 don’t be like that
Looks incredible
Why does Superman look exactly like Superman?
Disney forking over money to "totally real" accounts spamming garbage on everything related to this film
"Why no orchestral version of 80s pop song, 10 million jokes and angsty disgruntled female protagonist?"
Why does this Superman look like a cosplay Superman?
@@Alpha_dogg1Because cosplays are comic accurate, Cavill wasn't
I really appreciated the way you talked about this. A lot of people on youtube who talk about cinematography on youtube seem to focus purely on the technical side and ignore that it’s all about what works with the narrative. So it's great that you specifically referenced how the 90s Fincher style works for Batman, and this hyperreal style could work for Superman just like it did in Guardians 3
I want a color grade Lut of the Superman trailer to use for my projects
A story through a lens.
Thats filmmaking.
James Gunn. A story first the look will fall into place around the screenplay.
james going full on comic style
Nailed it. It really makes it feel like a comic book come to life.
This is pretty much what I just filmed tonight for my own channel 😅
But yeah, Superman is bright, he’s hope. It’s about colour and about being better than we are about looking up an aspiring to be more than our existence - the cinematography is telling a Super story, not because it’s super heroic (though it is) but Superman. It’s “more than”x
I still remember your re-color of winter soldier
a classic
@ this is probably going to be the dumbest thing I’ve said in regards to film/TV but the visuals in this film obviously have James Gunns fingerprint all over it, but I’m also picking up some hints of Michael bay. Some of the color grading is reminding me of The Boys too. Overall, I’m here for it
very intrigued, can't find that anywhere though?
@@saifleonardotariqquraishi5188 I don’t understand but I agree/disagree
Personally, I'm not a fan of the cinematography style for this film, as well as for The Suicide Squad, since it has that TV movie/CW feel to it. Looks too cheap in some aspects. But, I appreciate this breakdown. Your take on The Batman's cinematography is still one of my favorite videos on the platform.
Shush up
@@UltraBrianLearn to accept people can have different opinions, bud.
@@UltraBrian looks like someone can't accept other's opinions lol
It looks bright and sunny, which is what Superman is supposed to be like. I don't like the dark aesthetic we'd been getting for DCEU. Now we're getting the bright comic colours. No complaints!
It looks amazing. New cinema, and a cinematic Superman at that, should be ALL about color
This is Superman and I like how the trailer looked. Favourite shot was Supermsn saving the girl, you can see the bright colours and it suits the character. He is the symbol of hope, the light!
This is exactly whatI thought when I watched the trailer
it look like TV serise
I would still prefer if it wasn’t overly blue, yellow and empty. That wide angle lense is a bit much to use for what seems to be a lot of the movie. Maybe once I see the movie it will fall into place but for now not the biggest fan
i think it being bright and colorful is good but i would have rather seen that by them shooting on film instead
I love how James Gunn approaches colour grading and I really look forward to seeing the story too. But I miss the time when filmmakers used a 35mm camera, with grains and a depth of field that feels real.
Maybe it's just me but it looks very similar to The Flash... the colors and the wide angle shots, both. But I'll reserve my judgement
Same cinematographer
My main question is: If Clark Kent has a perm, does he carry a hair straightener in his suitcase?. Cause that hair ain't gonna smooth itself after just a quick flight over Metropolis.
I saw your tweet about the camera they used & after watching your youtube analysis i have to say i appreciate you more! Good putting a name to a face/video.. you speak with knowledge! My thoughts on trailer…
This Superman universe has that unique James Gunn vibe to it! Something new & fresh but it also reminds me of Donner’s Superman with him bleeding.. he’s feeling what it is like to be human & have the world against him & you know Krypto will warm your heart! Can’t wait!
Just found ur channel im an editor and i gotta say ur explanation on why so many films and shows are flat is spot on . Happy I found this great channel and look forward to more content 🙏
If a movie doesn't look like a semi-damp sidewalk, some textures but ultimately gray and rough, then I support it.
The colour grading is so perfect. Brings out the "personality" of Superman, Metropolis perfectly. Don't forget that interspersed with this, are the soft tones and timbre of the romantic moments with Lane (candle light romance anyone?). Thus the are appropriate and variety in the grading to suit various moments. I am, for one, excited to see this movie come 2025!
The people justifying the new Superman are the same people justifying The Batman.
I think I'm in the same boat as you. I'm here for punchy colors. We've had enough LOG looking stuff over the last decade.
Considering one of the main inspirations for this film and the DCU in general is the late 90s/2000s Justice League Unlimited cartoons, the color and cinematography are perfectly fitting.
After the Snyderverse being Dull asf I'm all for the vibrant look.
To understand the full package, we don't need to look any further than what Gunn has done with Suicide Squad, Peacemaker and the Guardians trilogy. This is going to visually pop. It will be fun, hopeful and a solid first entry to the new 'DCU'. Let's not let another iteration fall apart. First we bid farewell to Routh, then Cavill (huge loss). Let's not let this one go as well.
Technically, both Routh and Cavill were replaced in part because of the fans. They just can't get what they want Superman to be.
The scene where clark was walking around in daylight looks ai generated
My issue is more to do with the lighting in some shots. Feels too studio lit and fake that it kinda pulls me out of the movie. The heavy use of wide angle lenses is a creative choice sure, but Im personally not a big fan of that. It feels like so much stuff coming out of hollywood these days is shot with wides and im tired of seeing it. Sometimes it contributes to that fake video gamey look, but thats just my taste i guess. And another issue I have is the overuse of CGI. A lot of shots obviously need it, but then why did Krypto need to be CGI? They couldnt film a real dog for the close ups and mediums? Really? It's painfully noticeable. All that being said, im still looking forward to the film because the story looks promising.
pulls you out of the movie? You have not seen the movie... this is a trailer...
@@PhillyDove Lighting isn't going to magically change from the trailer genius...
I had some difficulties with how crisp and clean it looks but at least it's not those two plus flat. There are colors, contrast, style, like everything you want from a distinctive cinematography. It looks good!
It looks like a CW show. With everything in full brightness and no shadows and evenly lit so that CGI is easier to implement. But it also looks like there is no lighting artists or cinematography to create a feel with the frame. It feels very.... corporate. It feels like corpos went "More brightness, we cant see anything, people wont like darker tones and shadows MORE LIGHT"
All-Star Superman was in the inspo and that comic was very bright. So I get the look. My only gripe is that the Guy Gardner (Green Lantern) shot feels uninspired blocking-wise.
Snyder cultists seeing colour in a Superman movie:
“Mm, I don’t like this”
That was quick!!! Happy to see someone talk about this, the super wide lenses in close up action is a wild choice I’m on board with. Almost fish eye-y
Im def of the Nolan vibe, i love the more realistic grounded grading, but thats bc of the stories i love. However the grading for THIS world of Sup makes sense bc JG however is very COLORFUL, and hes bringing it back to the animated version to me. I hope Darkseid & Doomsday really brings that level of darkness to it, bc if it does its gonna really make a huge impact.
But something i hate that a lot of youtubers fall for is making everything saturated without it making sense for the story. The best colorist are the ones who understand making story match story.
It’s like James Gunn discovered the fish-eye lens during Guardians Vol. 3 and now he can’t put it down.
I haven't watched a trailer this many times since Tron: Legacy - it looks awesome
Looks artificial to me. The Sam Raimi Spider-Man films felt both real and had a heightened sense of reality that this doesn't give me. Regardless, I hope the movie is good
I think you're spot on. There is something unique, vibrant and different about the visuals. It screams hope and upliftment. That's exactly what we need!
Matt Reeves and James Gunn need to come together and bring Battinson and SuperSwet together in the same universe. The contrast in styles needs to be a thing in the new DCU. Not ever hero’s movie needs to feel the same. Then when we have a JL movie, we can get a beautiful amalgamation of all those styles. Not so it feels tonally confused but rather complex and nuanced.
I'm pretty certain that's never going to happen
interesting opening. The vast majority of people actually do like the look of the new superman.
Totally with you on the color grading but the wide angle is reminding me of the other wide angle dc movie (the flash) and im really hoping it doesnt look as atrocious
Just looking at these shots its clear that way more effort is going into fighting and action choreography.
Flash was a butchered film at the ass end of a dying franchise, it was gutted three times and put back together which is why half the movie looked cheap and had PS2 level graphics.