@@edgarallenhalcomb6877 how is 8.8% "basically a US airline". They don't have enough shares to have any voting power, not to mention actual major shareholders.
Thanks for this video. I prefer the first class trip by ICE-train on this route, it's not really slower, there's no baggage restrictions, no queues at security and you have more time to get the work finished.
@@972-l3e TGV has a lot of stairs and is quite narrow, seats have less space. Bar TGV is more expensive. I hope, after free network access, ICE to Paris will be operated by DB only without reservation obligatoire.
@@972-l3e i could only tell about the difference with Frecciarossa and TGV on the Paris - Milan route, but the issue with TGV is that the ticket prices could get very steep, I have seen tickets on this route over 100€ in 2nd class, and also TGV doesn't have a lot of baggage space and the bar is very expensive, compared to Frecciarossa, there are 4 different classes and way cleaner and newer trains and better service and more comfortable seats... I do think SNCF needs to get better
Paris-CDG is widely regarded as one of the WORST airports for connections in Europe, unless you have a lot of time between your flights, because it has a lot of scattered small terminals that can be a mile apart and usually require a train or bus transfer between them. Operations are also very slow and if you're connecting from a non-Schengen flight to a Schengen one (meaning you have to go through immigration and customs) you may have to stand in long lines and waste a lot of precious time. Frankfurt is also not advisable for the opposite reason: a single terminal, but too big and complicated, and you may have to walk half a mile from one gate to the other and easily get lost on your way. Munich, however, is a great airport. Other good choices would be Zürich, Amsterdam, Brussels and Copenhagen. London-Heathrow, only if you're flying BA and staying only in Terminal 5, otherwise it's a combination of the worst from Paris and Frankfurt together.
Really depends, some people have a bad experience and some have a good, I have connected in Paris CDG like 2 Times, both times were efficient and smooth, although this could be since we were using Delta and Air France which I think operate in the same terminal so it’s less pain, but really depends on your airline and the terminal. I would advise London Heathrow though, much easier and convenient connection, although we only used Terminal 3 for connections or Istanbul (the airport is on the European side) although be ready for long walks and security there and delays as it’s a relatively new airport.
When flying intra European CDG Roissy Airport is just fine, some flights depart from terminal 2G a satellite terminal but connections are smooth enough.If your connecting for intercontinental flights you should always allow at least 2 hours at big airports like cdg and there shouldn't be a problem whatsoever.
Business Class in Europe is a joke! It's not even comparable to Premium Economy. Thanks for showing the menu so one can read it! Very few vloggers do this to my great annoyance! LOL! As always, take care and Happy Travels! ♥️🛫🗺
I mean, what more do you need? People who fly Business Class intra-Europe are mostly doing it for the priority service at the airport and the food. No point in having lie-flat beds on two-hour flights.
No way that’s business class it’s like a premium economy, but it does make sense I mean they are flying for 1h so it doesn’t have to be luxurious and also the plane looks quite small so it’s understandable
To be honest, this is the identical same seat as Easyjet uses as their new seats, the only difference is the cup holder and maybe a recline. Quite strange that France´s main carrier uses the same seats on some aircraft as a cheep but good low cost airline
I actually don't like the buzzing sound of the A318/A320 engines. Makes it difficult to sleep. For the video though, great job. I'm surprised that the A318/320 series of AF has a business class. Some of the regional airlines here in Asia do not have one.
Because I think they are maybe searching business travellers that look for really concrete schedulled flights as there is a really big competition with the train in that route, so that's my theory.
@@DiegoHernandez-re1nk Dunno, the trains between Paris and Frankfurt are highly unpractical. Like just one train a day, more than 3 hours trip time and absurd fares. Even the CDG-LHR with a much more practical Eurostar schedule still sees a huge traffic.
Hello all the Simply Aviation team! Thanks for this video. Air France is horrible in short and médium flight in Europe. I flight Paris to Moscou on 2017 in economy class of this carter, and have a bad expérience. I fly the samedi route on Aeroflot on 2018 for world football cup in economy class thé food and service better
So u already make a statement, that you don't give a shit on your appearance. Traveling is not like your average couch potato day, its about culture and being dressed in an orderly manner.
To be honest you shoudnt fly intra European business class it’s exactly the same as economy but the middle seat is blocked Plus you should have flown on a newer A320 series plane with the new seat design
I'm flying the Hop Embraer E190 quite often from Nuremberg to Paris and have also flown the a318 on this route and I have to admit, that I had more legroom on the Embraer than on the a318 and also found the seats to be a bit more comfortable. I think it is because the rows in the a318 are just fitted to tight together. In my opinion, flying business class in Europe is a complete waste of money and only worth it when you bought a ticket for a long haul flight in business and didn't pay extra for the short flight.
The sound of the tips of the fan plades going supersonic, basically a sequence of tiny sonic booms. Usually it goes away as takeoff and climb thrust is reduced to cruise and the blades drop subsonic.
I need to check my glasses.in the title it said that it is business class.but this is a economy class seat.i am very sure that my glasses needed to be changed
Hello David and Felix. I really enjoy your video and I have been watching since 2017 and if you are running out of trip reports to make I would enjoy it if you would do A Livestream just talking to the chat about aviation! Thank you cheers
Do they actually offer short-haul business class? I remember flying a Lufthansa connection from Luxembourg to Munich and the entire plane was one class.
That is horrible for business class, may I ask what was the price difference between economy and business, is it’s a bit that’s ok but if it’s like a regular fare then that’s ridiculous !
Economy is 98€ return (so it’s probably 130€ with luggage) and 65€ oneway (~80€ with luggage). Business is 404€ return (luggage incl.) and 442€ oneway (luggage incl.). Lufthansa is 50/90€ (return/oneway) cheaper, but still quite expensive. Therefore only worth when upgrading with miles (if at all). Just for comparison, the direct trains between Frankfurt and Paris just costs 41.55€ (oneway + seat reservation) in 2nd class and 45.65€ in 1st class (oneway with seat reservation included) if booked ahead and takes a little less than 4 hours, which is probably just half an hour slower if one keeps in mind you need to get from the city to the airport and vice versa. I don’t know why people, even business people, would take the stress at the airport for flying just an hour while an affordable and just as comfortable (imo) option is readily available. I do understand for routes like Berlin - Copenhagen, where the train ride would take at least thrice as long, but not on routes like Frankfurt - Paris.
Simply Aviation was talking about all European business classes. I.e. BA, Lufthansa, Air France all have the euro business class but yet there’s always a comment on the seat being poor, when really it’s the norm
@@jamessez5826 Just because it's the norm, doesn't mean all airlines look like this. Turkish Airlines has real Business Class seats in their short-haul planes, Air Serbia and Aeroflot too. So, I will continue to show products that I have never showed before, just so that you can be sure about what it would be like to fly in it... :)
Interesting video as we are flying LHR-CDG-SIN on Air France Business in January with the first leg on A320. Would be great if you could do voice over rather then text which takes your eyes away from the video.
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This is why simply aviation is the best bro. No music, no voice, just makes u feel like u are there. Thx simply aviation I luv ur channel guys 👍👍👍
I know, I love this style too. I'm going to SE Asia in January and just the sights and sounds in the video is getting me psyched up for my trip 😊
Agreed, this channel is very relaxing, no voice, no music, just airplanes. ♥️♥️♥️
Its looks like suprtoe video and we dont know
Yea
Such a short flight, and food? Impossible!
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But you know he's flying business class don't you?
@@edgarallenhalcomb6877 how is 8.8% "basically a US airline". They don't have enough shares to have any voting power, not to mention actual major shareholders.
@@972-l3eFrench state doesn't have more than 50%, please educate yourself
You were so lucky to hear this CFM full thrust engine sound twice🤤
Thanks for this video. I prefer the first class trip by ICE-train on this route, it's not really slower, there's no baggage restrictions, no queues at security and you have more time to get the work finished.
I prefer TGV
@@972-l3e TGV has a lot of stairs and is quite narrow, seats have less space. Bar TGV is more expensive. I hope, after free network access, ICE to Paris will be operated by DB only without reservation obligatoire.
@@lausimeyer6558 yes but its faster and cleaner. And what do u mean by "lot of stairs"?
@@lausimeyer6558 yeah what do you mean by lots of stairs
@@972-l3e i could only tell about the difference with Frecciarossa and TGV on the Paris - Milan route, but the issue with TGV is that the ticket prices could get very steep, I have seen tickets on this route over 100€ in 2nd class, and also TGV doesn't have a lot of baggage space and the bar is very expensive, compared to Frecciarossa, there are 4 different classes and way cleaner and newer trains and better service and more comfortable seats... I do think SNCF needs to get better
There were more desserts on that tray than actual dinner items. Air France has a bit of a sweet tooth it seems.
Indeed! Too many sugary deserts.. plus soda.. Major insulin spikes and tipping the balance of gut flora to Candida. 👎
In france, we prefer sweet food.
(generally, there is people who prefers salty ofc)
It’s cheaper than serving hot food. And it’s what they have any way n
@@kyrienissano we don't
@@TheMasterhomasterwhat? no it isn't
Air France's catering is definitely one of the best in Europe, both in business and economy, great video! :)
great video
When flying through Europe, would you recommend Paris as a good transfer Airport?
Love the little 318 :)
Paris-CDG is widely regarded as one of the WORST airports for connections in Europe, unless you have a lot of time between your flights, because it has a lot of scattered small terminals that can be a mile apart and usually require a train or bus transfer between them. Operations are also very slow and if you're connecting from a non-Schengen flight to a Schengen one (meaning you have to go through immigration and customs) you may have to stand in long lines and waste a lot of precious time. Frankfurt is also not advisable for the opposite reason: a single terminal, but too big and complicated, and you may have to walk half a mile from one gate to the other and easily get lost on your way. Munich, however, is a great airport. Other good choices would be Zürich, Amsterdam, Brussels and Copenhagen. London-Heathrow, only if you're flying BA and staying only in Terminal 5, otherwise it's a combination of the worst from Paris and Frankfurt together.
Absolutly not, it has the stupidest terminal design ever, it takes a lot of time to get from gate to gate. Frankfurt is the best option imo
Really depends, some people have a bad experience and some have a good, I have connected in Paris CDG like 2 Times, both times were efficient and smooth, although this could be since we were using Delta and Air France which I think operate in the same terminal so it’s less pain, but really depends on your airline and the terminal. I would advise London Heathrow though, much easier and convenient connection, although we only used Terminal 3 for connections or Istanbul (the airport is on the European side) although be ready for long walks and security there and delays as it’s a relatively new airport.
When flying intra European CDG Roissy Airport is just fine, some flights depart from terminal 2G a satellite terminal but connections are smooth enough.If your connecting for intercontinental flights you should always allow at least 2 hours at big airports like cdg and there shouldn't be a problem whatsoever.
I recommend Frankfurt, Munich or London.
Business Class in Europe is a joke! It's not even comparable to Premium Economy. Thanks for showing the menu so one can read it! Very few vloggers do this to my great annoyance! LOL! As always, take care and Happy Travels! ♥️🛫🗺
I checked the title couple of times, can't believe this is a business class 🤔
I mean, what more do you need? People who fly Business Class intra-Europe are mostly doing it for the priority service at the airport and the food. No point in having lie-flat beds on two-hour flights.
@@waaahl That's true but they should at the least provide more legroom than Economy Class.
This is how business class on short flights in Europe looks like - they just use regular seats with free middle seat and you get food
You'll get a whole different experience with the Asian airlines 😂
don't act like you're more civilised, indian... and also, this is intra-europe. Some of y'all are incredibly ignorant
In a few years you can do this route again on the C-series/A220!
eww
I love the A318 its a Little Beast i wish there was an A318neo would of been awesome to see, but there is a A319neo , great video too btw !!!
Maybe the A220 is the one...
8:59 Hey Simply Aviaton, at an airport like Paris its very usual that go arounds happen due to an occupied runway.....
I might be flying down to Christchurch and i will be filming it
No way that’s business class it’s like a premium economy, but it does make sense I mean they are flying for 1h so it doesn’t have to be luxurious and also the plane looks quite small so it’s understandable
except for the food it isnt even premium economy
Great go around!
To be honest, this is the identical same seat as Easyjet uses as their new seats, the only difference is the cup holder and maybe a recline.
Quite strange that France´s main carrier uses the same seats on some aircraft as a cheep but good low cost airline
16 years ago the a318 was made 2003-built
I actually don't like the buzzing sound of the A318/A320 engines. Makes it difficult to sleep.
For the video though, great job. I'm surprised that the A318/320 series of AF has a business class. Some of the regional airlines here in Asia do not have one.
Joseph Hernandez but there is no more buzzing sound when cruising or landing
@@kayciwittl right
I wonder why they operate a A318 on such a busy route.
Because I think they are maybe searching business travellers that look for really concrete schedulled flights as there is a really big competition with the train in that route, so that's my theory.
@@DiegoHernandez-re1nk Dunno, the trains between Paris and Frankfurt are highly unpractical. Like just one train a day, more than 3 hours trip time and absurd fares. Even the CDG-LHR with a much more practical Eurostar schedule still sees a huge traffic.
9:05 i believe thats called a missed approach
Edit: this is not meant as an aggressive comment or anything, i appreciate ur vids bro
Awesome video. Great report as always!😎
Hello all the Simply Aviation team! Thanks for this video. Air France is horrible in short and médium flight in Europe. I flight Paris to Moscou on 2017 in economy class of this carter, and have a bad expérience. I fly the samedi route on Aeroflot on 2018 for world football cup in economy class thé food and service better
Sultan97400 I agree. Paris-Casablanca flight was a bit claustrophobic but my Paris-LAX was great.
They call this business class? Southwest has better economy class than this
I always wear sweatpants on airplanes bc I feel comfortable with sweatpants on then jeans
So u already make a statement, that you don't give a shit on your appearance.
Traveling is not like your average couch potato day, its about culture and being dressed in an orderly manner.
@@flyingboy8095 have fun with that blood clot and constant cramp from that squeezing jeans on a long-haul flight. 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
It’s first class for this class for this who have no legs
To be honest you shoudnt fly intra European business class it’s exactly the same as economy but the middle seat is blocked
Plus you should have flown on a newer A320 series plane with the new seat design
Actually it is the same seats than Hop!
(horrible)
I'm flying the Hop Embraer E190 quite often from Nuremberg to Paris and have also flown the a318 on this route and I have to admit, that I had more legroom on the Embraer than on the a318 and also found the seats to be a bit more comfortable. I think it is because the rows in the a318 are just fitted to tight together.
In my opinion, flying business class in Europe is a complete waste of money and only worth it when you bought a ticket for a long haul flight in business and didn't pay extra for the short flight.
The take off sound is amazing
The sound of the tips of the fan plades going supersonic, basically a sequence of tiny sonic booms. Usually it goes away as takeoff and climb thrust is reduced to cruise and the blades drop subsonic.
Just flew them two weeks ago from Venice to Paris CDG
Your vids make my day. Keep going :)
Could not agree more, they are incredible
Is KLM alliance of airfrance?
Simply Aviation are the best channel ever the videos are so detailed and varied and exciting
I need to check my glasses.in the title it said that it is business class.but this is a economy class seat.i am very sure that my glasses needed to be changed
Another amazing tripreport. Good on you simply aviation
I never knew there was an A318 before!
British airways flys one from London City to jfk, with a stop in Shannon, Ireland for refueling, and customs preclearance. No stop on the way back.
hey im your first viewer and like pls reply
no
I like the video before I even see it 😆
If it’s that high it’s called a missed approach
That looks like economy plus.
Great video !
Congratulations Air France
is it a 3-2 Configuration?
No? It shares the same hull as the a320 and they have a 3-3 configuration.
Y'all need to come back to South Africa 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
What a cute plane😍😇
I prefer the Embraer on this route, the legroom is worse than at Ryanair
That is like a backroom bro🌚
I’m flying from Frankfurt to Paris
Me: yeah well I’m eating Belgien chocolate cake in bed🤣
I think this will be good
11:54 Merci à vous aussi !
Im doing a trip report marathon to kill time during quarrantine
Just love your vids😉💓❤
When will the lot flight Come out ?????
European Business Class: Economy Cabin with Economy Seat but with blocked on middle seat (CMIIW)
*Only sweets and dry pizza? Perfect meal for diabetes*
Hello David and Felix. I really enjoy your video and I have been watching since 2017 and if you are running out of trip reports to make I would enjoy it if you would do A Livestream just talking to the chat about aviation! Thank you cheers
Verry good
Fly Tarom and you actually get a business class seat on all of their planes except the B738! There are a few in Europe that still offer that! too bad!
There are not that many A318s flying right now.
8:45
You can alwayssssss
Go around
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Where is the “buisness class “
Tolle Maschine, 1a Report, was will man mehr;-)
i love a318
GOOOOOOD VIDEO)))
Air France is one of the best Airlines
The baby bus luks cute
Do they actually offer short-haul business class? I remember flying a Lufthansa connection from Luxembourg to Munich and the entire plane was one class.
the seating for business class is simply below par
good god airfrance is getting rid of the baby bus
That is horrible for business class, may I ask what was the price difference between economy and business, is it’s a bit that’s ok but if it’s like a regular fare then that’s ridiculous !
Economy is 98€ return (so it’s probably 130€ with luggage) and 65€ oneway (~80€ with luggage). Business is 404€ return (luggage incl.) and 442€ oneway (luggage incl.). Lufthansa is 50/90€ (return/oneway) cheaper, but still quite expensive. Therefore only worth when upgrading with miles (if at all).
Just for comparison, the direct trains between Frankfurt and Paris just costs 41.55€ (oneway + seat reservation) in 2nd class and 45.65€ in 1st class (oneway with seat reservation included) if booked ahead and takes a little less than 4 hours, which is probably just half an hour slower if one keeps in mind you need to get from the city to the airport and vice versa. I don’t know why people, even business people, would take the stress at the airport for flying just an hour while an affordable and just as comfortable (imo) option is readily available. I do understand for routes like Berlin - Copenhagen, where the train ride would take at least thrice as long, but not on routes like Frankfurt - Paris.
DrizzleBeat_98 wow, business is not worth
Inter European Business Class (except with Turkish Airlines) just isn’t worth it.
Flying business class within Europe are waste of money due to Intra-Europe business class
Beautiful view of CDG
Ah, the Baby Bus
5:56 music to my ears 🎼
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Hello from Marseille 😀👍
Hello from paris
@2:47 that guy seems pretty upset.
Yeah, I would be too if I had to fly Air France Business Class on shorthaul
What did you expect from an A318?
Wait, can someone fill me in on what part of this was business class apart from the food?
Really cool plane. Except for the cabin of course.
What the heck Is this is bussines class
Pls can u fly tui airlines uk
Who is watching this in coronatime?
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You know all Frenchmen are 4 feet tall and weigh 90 pounds don't you!
BABYBUS
CDG my hometown airport 💪💪
I tought this was the a350
Hallo David hab Video alles von dir schon nachschau sehr schön .
Ich hab dich kennen gelernt. Flug von BKK nach Frankfurt.
Hat mich sehr gefreut neben dir gesessen zu haben! :)
Thats not business class...
Usually Air France is more better !!! They need to offer more legroom in bizzniz class
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When can reviewers stop complaining about European business class, we get it, the seat is the same!
We have never posted a review about Air France’s short-haul Business Class before...
I was thinking the same , they still do not understand that it’s not only AF but european business classes !🤣🤣
Simply Aviation was talking about all European business classes. I.e. BA, Lufthansa, Air France all have the euro business class but yet there’s always a comment on the seat being poor, when really it’s the norm
@@jamessez5826 Just because it's the norm, doesn't mean all airlines look like this. Turkish Airlines has real Business Class seats in their short-haul planes, Air Serbia and Aeroflot too. So, I will continue to show products that I have never showed before, just so that you can be sure about what it would be like to fly in it... :)
Are all European airlines like this? Why do they skimp on a lot of things?
The legroom is so poor for business class
Limited leg room? What do you expect sitting on a bus?! 🤣
j2simpso maybe you don’t love Airbus, but I do. So don’t disappoint me, and show your disrespect to Airbus somewhere else. Catch your dislike!
Interesting video as we are flying LHR-CDG-SIN on Air France Business in January with the first leg on A320.
Would be great if you could do voice over rather then text which takes your eyes away from the video.
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