@@rovercoupe7104 Debunkers come up with the most implausible explanations because of desperation and fail to even look at the evidence reported ! Pilots see stars all the time , none have ever tried to close on a planet or star ! Meteors last a few seconds at most and never hover and fly away ! Never has a pilot chased a UFO only to report it was a balloon , never ! Yet most UFOs are called balloons or meteors ?
I knew a former Colorado rancher who owned a ranch near Del Norte and one near Mesa, Arizona. The sight of strange harsh glaring lights on the mountains to the southeast near Alamosa, Colorado was a common sight. Odd aircraft with extremely strong searchlights would meander through the peaks. Strange and odd animal mutilations would occur here. These sights bothered him and his wife . . . a lot. One night spelled the end of his continued life in this weird area. His wife had died a few years prior and he now lived alone. He told me that he had gone to bed early--he had to get up early to take care of livestock and chores. His bedroom window looked out on an adjoining east corral which was fenced in--with the house nearly a couple of feet to the fence line. Here were several cattle he looked after which had been divided from the herd for several reasons. Around 1:00 am, he was awakened by a bright, intense white light blasting through the window momentarily. He got up to see what was going on. As he peered over the window sill, he couldn't believe his eyes: a large saucer-shaped object about 50 feet in diameter was hovering above one of his cows, not but 100 feet away from the house. A cow was surrounded by light. The vehicle utilized the light to power up a strength to lift the animal into the base of the craft hovering above. This sight put the fear of God into the rancher. He told me that he rushed away from the window. Snuggled down between the floor and wall. Didn't sleep the remainder of the entire night utterly petrified. No sounds were heard except for the animal's cries and then silence. At dawn, the rancher, dressed, rushed out to the corral area and found--less than 30 feet away from his bedroom window . . . the mutilated carcass of the same cow he had seen levitated by the craft. Calling the sheriff, he contacted authorities who listened to his story and basically told him he couldn't do anything about these incidents. The authorities were helpless. I talked to him about this and he told me that Robert Stack's television program, "Unsolved Mysteries," had contacted him about the event, arranged an interview and he talked to them on camera. The rancher said he would do it under the condition that his face not be shown nor any identifying information be divulged. The harrowing incident put such fear into him that he decided all of the weird events he had witnessed over the many years he had owned the ranch--and he was raised there as a youngster--would keep him there no longer and that he had decided to sell the property and move to his other land in Arizona. I know this individual personally as I was also a horseman and accompanied him in the Arizona mountains on pack trips. He was a very dependable, conservative veteran, with many contracts to do work for electric utilities, as well as a solid work and community trustworthiness. Knowing his sincere story and knowing his background leaves no doubt in my mind. The story is true and I believe . . . quite reliable . . . if it came from him. This rancher is SOLID and CREDIBLE. This bizarre narrative is not something he would "make up." He received no money for this. Publicity was not welcome because of his work with Arizona utilities and he could not believe what he had seen--but had to accept the fact this had ACTUALLY occurred. "This was so frightening," he said to me, "I simply couldn't stay here any longer." True story and I vouch for him.
@@appletv1212 The rancher passed away in 2010. He was a great guy to know and our mutual work with electric utilities on pack horse patrols marks him as a good friend and honest witness. He was an able horseman and competent equine trainer. He was well known in the horse world as I should know.
@Gallant Zodiac We were saddened by the horse mutilations which occurred in the area, since we were both equestrians. He was a significant officer in the Appaloosa Horse organization world and I was involved with Quarter Horses. This event, I forgot to mention, happened in the late 1980s.
I am 38 now and I haven’t really told anyone this because people wouldn’t believe it. I was 16 driving on a backwood dirt road that I lived on. My friend and I saw 4 dome shaped objects in the sky sitting still. 2 of them were on top and the other 2 were on the bottom in almost a perfect square. They dropped down a little in exact harmony. They then flew away in opposite directions of each other. It looked like they basically just disappeared. This was also in day light.
I seen a flying saucer early in the dawn morning, had white light like a laser on us. Over in the western side of Navajo reservation it was less than a hundred to yards away.
You may spot a UFO....no doubt about it. But you'll never spot an extraterrestrial artificial object, just because you can't spot that which doesn't exist.
I lived there from 1984-1999 . I remember early one morning before it got light , I woke up in bed , looked out my window and saw a bright fireball streaking across the sky. Strange thing was that nothing was said about it in the news.I thought it had to be a meteorite at first but now I don't know
They would deny it as it would be the end of their magazine and career, The Space X corporation has actual footage, in space, of a triangular vehicle passing the I.S.S, and cut the feed short
Ohh Easy. Too many options. Let's see: They are all SWAMP GAS, WEATHER BALOON, OWLS, VENUS AND LIGHTHOUSES. (IF IT IS SEEN ON RADAR THEN IT IS A TEMPERATURE INVERSION) People who see them are hilly-billy idiots. Anybody claiming contrary is a tinfoil douchebag. Aand in order to seem "sciency and smart" let's quote Occam's Razor. Spewing meaningless words like rational, plausaible, mundane, human mind playing tricks, mass hypnosis, myths. Oh and of course Occam's Razor, because nobody can be the edgy-sciency guy without uttering it. I think I've made it for you sire.
@@gursugursakal5601 As long as you cannot prove ETs are here as a fact the debunkers are happy ! Science cannot prove the Sun is real because it cannot be moved into the Lab ! That is why Judges give high degree of credence to eye witnesses which we have over 1 million UFO witnesses by now on Earth ! I know ETs are here on Earth , the evidence is overwhelming indeed !
Whoever made this should have talked to a local. (I live in Saguache county) First, Salida is NOT in the SLV, you have to go over Poncha Pass to get to the SLV from Salida. It is not the Entry to the SLV, that would be Poncha Springs. Salida is not a community of artists so much as it is a community of rich widows that jacked the cost of living up so high that artists cannot afford to live there anymore. The UFO Observatory near Hooper (where the first recorded case of livestock mutilation happened) would be a better destination than Salida, if UFOs are actually your interest. Crestone, where Stephen Greer's group was able to repeatedly call down UFOs, Mount Blanca, which the indigenous people report an alien base under that goes back as long as their legends... The SLV was a pilgramage spot for shaman from as far as the Yucatan and Iroquois areas in ancient times. Salida, unlike the SLV, pumps a whole bunch of money into its tourism, because it wants to be the next yuppie hellhole like Aspen or Vail. The SLV has the Sand Dunes, Pentente Canyon (some of the best rock climbing in the world) and like half of the 14ers in Colorado. There's also much more interesting and better documented stories than the UFO sightings, like the giant snake (reportedly large enough that it was able to lift its head 6 feet off the ground) that the BLM (Bureau of Land Management. Saguache is largely national forest land, and, frankly, there is only like one black permanent resident in the county last I knew, so the other BLM is not really relevant around here {Tho he does matter, I haven't met him, I guess he is a vet who moved out here to be away from people}, unless the B was Brown, as we do have a large Latina/o population and a pretty large indigenous and Asian population as well.) went to great lengths to seal off the cave of. They completely skipped Crestone, a town up next to the back side of the dunes that houses 7 Tibetian Buddhist centers, 3 Zen Buddhist centers, 3 Hindu Ashrams, a Carmelite Retreat, 2 Native American groups, a Sufi group, and several other religious groups from around the world. It also is where Stephen Greer has the offices where he led groups on multiple occasions that claimed to have called down UFOs. Crestone is considered to be a spiritual vortex equal to or stronger than Sedona by the types who believe in such things. Ok, when they show Judy, it becomes obvious this documentary is old. I would guess at least 20 years old. Which would explain why they say Salida is an artist town. (Judy is an awesome lady, and it's $10/night to camp at her place by the watchtower, which, even without UFO's, has arguably the best view in the valley from its platform. But she is MUCH younger in this. Although I saw no UFOs there, I, along with another camper who I met there both saw unexplainable movement of lights on the ground that were solar ground lamps when I went to examine, but we both saw them move, and there was noone else around.) Aside from the UFO Observatory and Colorado Gators and KRZA, I have not noticed any of the other businesses mentioned here in a few years of living here. The Taos valley is a separate valley. I don't know if the inn there is still around. Probably as Taos is a more stable economy. The only people I know out here who have not seen things in the night sky are those that do not look at it.
My girlfriend lived in del Norte area. She saw conical, spinning beams of light, “aimed” at the sky. She used a compost toilet and lived in a small camper and would get a lot of night sky while being there. Her mom and moms boyfriend confirmed the sighting. In Wyoming my dad saw a ball of light (described as looking like a headlight) moving above the ground unnaturally. My family from Wyoming has many many UFO stories, I even have a half grandpa who claimed to have been abducted.
Oh and sorry for the spam, but a not on the chimera type claims... she described the coyotes as “mutated.” Usually coyotes are skinny and small but these ones were large and well fed.
Very good comment on the focus of the documentary . I lived in the SLV for over 30 years. The documentary does not mention that the SLV is including in huge MOA, Military Operations Area. I kept binoculars with me , even at work. On a daily basis you could see military aircraft. I would sit outside after dark and observe all sorts of lighted aerial objects, most of which could be explained, some were not so explainable!! Go and see it before the "eclectic" hipsters from Crestone ruin it.
"Me thinks thou dost protest too much" The way he keeps smiling says he's lying to your face. He's trying too hard to explain it all away. Which means he knows something he doesn't want you to know. Or he really really doesn't want aliens to be a reality.
Definition of a skeptic - a person inclined to question or doubt accepted opinions. Michael Shermer is not a skeptic, he is a TOTAL non-believer and NOT even interested in anything but his own very close minded opinion. I don't know if they're real or not, but I do believe it is definitely a real possibility. I've never personally seen one so .......
Yes, Banff....my gosh, my friends friends lived in a cabin for awhile south of there in Mount Index, Washington back in 1970....they would always double say the f's on the end and laugh like stoned hippies ! ...Lol
"The visitors will try and create the impression that they are “the allies of humanity.” They will say they are here to save humanity from itself, that only they can offer the great hope that humanity cannot provide for itself, that only they can establish true order and harmony in the world. But this order and this harmony will be theirs, not yours. And the freedom that they promise will not be yours to enjoy." Excerpt from alliesofhumanity org
I barely made it to the end. The mental gymnastics of the so-called Skeptics became almost unbearable. These guys are making a living off of being assholes. What kind of a doctor does that?
Shermer has solved it!!! No point in adding more testimonials, radar data, footage, videos, witness accounts, trace evidence and so on. Congratulations Mr Shermer!! By the way, Travis rode a blimp for five days, Ariel schoolchildren saw an anomaly whilst suffering overheating, tictac was a tiktok. 👍😘🇸🇪
You are delusional. There's no evidence of the existence of Shermer! NO evidence at all. I will pay you if you show me some evidence of his existence: a tooth, his credit card, a wing, a great-great-grandfather, etc
Not Shermer! Shows that Bozos can get Doctorates. That's why I stopped at my Bachelors....As soon as I see Shermer I turn it off! I can't believe he still gets calls! He'll eventually be made a FOOL....but the C.I.A. LOVES him!
Me too I seen flying saucer really close up back in 97, than on and off the latest one I seen was south of Durango Colorado. This was green color, it took off like it went into hyper drive just like the Star wars movie.
I've been keeping this to myself for years now, I've told a few people about it, but I can say 100% that the Edwards footage is a flying saucer and I really believe it was being controlled by a alien source, because it was at the end of 1999 slash 2000, I seen the exact same saucer hovering over my job when I got off work, and it was 3 to 4 football fields in distance at the most away from me, maybe even closer and I could make out the windows on it, and I turned to my friends and everyone seen it and acted like it was no big deal, and I had this feeling as if I was being watched, but anyways I jumped in the back of my friends pickup truck for a ride to my brothers house about 2 and a half miles away, and the saucer stayed with us the whole way, strangely at the same distance the whole way there, so I got dropped off by my friend and started walking down the dirt road leading to my brothers house and lost sight of it in the tree line, when I got to my brothers house, I wanted to use my brothers beta camera I think that was the kind of camera he had at the time, but when I went back outside I couldn't see it still, just wished I could got it on film, cause I can say 100 % it's real and it does exist
And that's only a minor encounter, what happened to me in 1976 as a young boy was the major encounter and that's why I know 100% that we're not alone in this universe
And I hate it when someone is a skeptic on this topic, and tries to blow it off as something else, I'm so sure from the encounters I've had over the years, that it makes me think these skeptics are either complete dumb ass people or part of a secret agenda to hide the truth, the truth is I've had so many encounters in my life, I always remember my first thoughts on every encounter, and those thoughts are, if our God made us, what God made them
I have property in Sangre de Cristo mountains overlooking the San Luis Valley, the elevation of my property is about 9,000 ft, covered in pinon and other pines as well as aspens. Every couple of nights during late summer, I'd see some sort of space craft in flight in a linear line in an overall shape of a.square, maybe 4x4 square miles and it would do it for hours. Then it would just speed off and vanish. My suspicions is one the military working on some type of radar or it's ET analysing the huge network of aspens trees and living organisms
Is there a military base around there? I saw cargo helicopter fling out of the SDC mountains every morning while at the dunes. My gf saw beams of light at del Norte. Congrats on the land, that’s a dream!
I live in the San luis Valley I live in del norte colorado I believe are whole town was abducted one night there's definitely something strange going on here
onsidering this is an old documentary and even the 4k camera on your phone is only good to about 15 feet, it should be no surprise the video is shaky. Try focusing on anything at a distance without a tripod and its going to shake the worse the farther you look out.
We have nuclear weapons, lasers, railguns and more. To an alien race who wants to study us we present a potential danger. We study lions, tigers and the lot and are wary of their potential to hurt us.
I've been made to sound stupid by someone in the documentary who said the sightings are based on new aircraft. How stupid does he think people are? If hes not seen the glowing orbs ,he should wait or look harder. Atleast then,he'll stop being a skeptic who takes peoples claims to be delusional.
I am from West Africa, I just want to tell Dr Michael Sherman that he should stop what he is saying, the people who are claiming they have seen things are not stupid , if he hasn't seen one he should insulting the others and go to bed . He is really pissing me off .
I would like to see the face of that skeptic when the military admitted there is unidentified craft that they cannot explain I bet that shut that fell up quick like.
I seen just south of Durango, it was green took off like Star wars movie, like it went into hyper drive, seen a lot on Navajo reservation where I'm from. Seen a flyer saucer less than 100 yards away back in 98, seen the triangle one, seen a mother ship this spring too. Seen one just north of where I live dumping glowing what looks like a glowing waste.
Sun baked deserts of Northern New Mexico? Come on, dude. Have you ever been to Northern New Mexico? Not very deserty. Majestic mountains; some plains, perhaps; but not sunbaked deserts.
A blimp! HahahaHaHahahaHa! I'm not buying it. Especially from this fool who claims that. He's a fool. If it was a blimp, then why hasn't the people flying the blimp come forward?
Dr. Tom McDonough. S.E.T.I coordinator for 23 years. Searching for extraterrestrial life .... and .... he is chief scientist Skeptic for the Skeptics Society. You literally couldn't make it up.
Doty was Air Force Counterintelligence Officer who specialized in disinformation. He's admitted to disinforming Paul Benowitz and Linda Moulten Howe and is suspected of many other things that can't be proven. He's retired now and admits everything he says nowadays is true but I'd take everything he says with a huge grain of salt because many of the claims he has made are undoubtedly not true. Personally, I believe he was maybe read into a secret ufo program about recovered craft and possibly bodies but that's it. He's contradicted himself and changed details in his stories way too much over the years for me to trust him.
You kiddin me? He’s probably rationalizing it away. It’s simpletons like him that’s the reason the government can’t tell us what’s goin on for the fear of people like him losin they’re minds and grips on reality and society falling into an apocalypse. It’s folks like HIM that are holding us all back from full disclosure
The visitors seem to like hills and mountains. My family and I used to see them every night over the Adelaide hills in South Australia in the 70s and 80s. When they would speed up they would glow brighter and duller when moving slow. Sometimes they would stop dead and hover like a bird of pray waiting to pounce then drop strait to the ground. They could change direction very sharply no curving manoeuvres just strait angle turns. One night we saw a very large light blue triangle it was very high up it moved slowly across the sky with no noise totally silent. In the 70s and 80s there were a lot of reports of cattle mutilation reported in the hills. I've seen them recently stopping and dropping to the ground when driving over the hills at night so I believe they are still hear!
Schirmer's analysis on cattle mutilations regarding ET's traveling millions of miles just to kill cattle misses a whole host of possibilities. For example an abductee noted she was told that the samples taken were to determine whether the species and us are subject to a certain bacteria/disease that we cannot see in our microscopes but that they can see by getting down to the atomic level to determine the existence of this threat. This makes perfect sense especially if they made us and do not wast to see us die off. So Schirmer is rationalizing his analysis as well as anyone else would I just wish he wold acknowledge that his position is only a theory and until. we can get to the bottom of this, his theories are no better than anyone else's. In a court of law we rely upon eye witnesses every day. We rely upon experts to help as well. If an advanced species is here analyzing us they would want to do so with as little interruption as possible. Especially if we were an experiment. Life abounds in space all around us, and I say that the best evidence is that we are here, and we have souls, that are probably ET in nature. So then I suppose that really messes up the equation for sides.
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These 2 guys are in denial full force, so much so I have no choice but to question just as strong. I believe they are desensitizing us to their existence since we have been led to believe otherwise. They will show us in due time.
@@ijamsum oh thank you so much for reminding me there's always the Spell check Police in Comments when my android phone fails to spell check! Or maybe you missed the pun of my statement! And it's more important that grammar and corrections of proper punctuation and paragraphs are more important then the message, the Point, as to what it is I'm attempting to express on utube, and just have A little tolerance and understanding instead of critical Criss! Or Nik, Picky Nikki! Not mad just calmly IRRATATED!
Info I found online said it was published in 2015. But the computer monitors shown near 15:40 do not seem to be circa 2015. Oh, and at 16:30 -- " monitors enemy planes missiles and spacecraft to warn of any impending attack on the u.s" .. maybe not so much for spy balloons.
Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !" Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam." Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!" Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..." Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!" Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky." Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction." Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment?
@Gallant Zodiac they are not trying to discredit natives who lived there for decades either. Your argument is disingenuous or atleast grasping at straws. Klaus Schmidt worked on Gobekli tepe for 20+ years
Let's say they're military secret air crafts, what if one of those strange military things crashes to the mountains. And the crashes, are dangerous, what are the people to do, isn't. There a law against doing military anything, on the city below, so let's say it is Air Forces. Will the military do secret missions on local people.
Well, that was a textbook example of how not to argue for rational, skeptical explanations of unexplained phenomena. Dismissively sneering at witnesses and persons who believe they have been affected by UFO's is a surefire way to drive them far away from science and reason. On a positive note, nice to see the late Stan Friedman, trying to keep things relatively balanced.
Well Exactly !!! But then that Shermer guy has nothing to do with science. He's a poseur, he's a "hack-fraud". Someone just described RationalWiki as "Rationality is their flag, not their method." Shermer is the exact incarnation of this caricature of ""knock-off rationality". Science is a set of methods, it has nothing to do with spewing nonsense like: " Ohhh they've came from light years mastering interstellar technology and landed on Farmer Bob's land. Impossible !!!" Its just plain being a douche-bag. We need real skeptics.
If there was no editing where a transition of someone walking then it goes into.slowmo and black and white with a shakey camera and the creepy murder mystery music people wouldn't take this documentary nearly as seriously lol
Actually it is not. Only the scientific measurement tools available in the hands of citizens are very limited. Governments' info gathering capacity and capabilities are vastly greater. But they are not for you and I citizens !!! This phenomena had been constantly observed by U.S. and U.K. Governments (and probably by former USSR) for at least 80 years since the "Foo Fighters" of WW II. (There is a good chance that shortly after other governments followed suit.) They have been observing this data for nearly a century not with some "Crowd Funded" basic equipment but with every imaginable Top of the Line, State of the Art Uber-Super gadget, instrument, equipment, sensor, computer, machine, radar, spectograph, telescope, camera, satellite etc. SO THEREFORE: Governments has already AT LEAST all kinds and sorts of "Scientific" data that we "Citizen Scientists" hope to achieve and collect in the future few decades with limited instruments and most certainly MUCH MORE. They (Governments) have all the quality cool toys and instruments, long observation periods and large data sets of thousands of cases. They certainly know and analyzed all their flight characteristics, flight paths, hot spots, source orbits in space, patterns etc.
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I’m Skeptical About These Skeptics
Some the sceptics are not sceptical enough. They just take the official word. M.
@@rovercoupe7104 Debunkers come up with the most implausible explanations because of desperation and fail to even look at the evidence reported !
Pilots see stars all the time , none have ever tried to close on a planet or star !
Meteors last a few seconds at most and never hover and fly away !
Never has a pilot chased a UFO only to report it was a balloon , never !
Yet most UFOs are called balloons or meteors ?
They are Gadflies.... highly respected for no apparent reason!
These skeptics are the form of retardation.
Mhhh I'm skeptic about that
I knew a former Colorado rancher who owned a ranch near Del Norte and one near Mesa, Arizona. The sight of strange harsh glaring lights on the mountains to the southeast near Alamosa, Colorado was a common sight. Odd aircraft with extremely strong searchlights would meander through the peaks. Strange and odd animal mutilations would occur here. These sights bothered him and his wife . . . a lot. One night spelled the end of his continued life in this weird area. His wife had died a few years prior and he now lived alone. He told me that he had gone to bed early--he had to get up early to take care of livestock and chores. His bedroom window looked out on an adjoining east corral which was fenced in--with the house nearly a couple of feet to the fence line. Here were several cattle he looked after which had been divided from the herd for several reasons. Around 1:00 am, he was awakened by a bright, intense white light blasting through the window momentarily. He got up to see what was going on. As he peered over the window sill, he couldn't believe his eyes: a large saucer-shaped object about 50 feet in diameter was hovering above one of his cows, not but 100 feet away from the house. A cow was surrounded by light. The vehicle utilized the light to power up a strength to lift the animal into the base of the craft hovering above. This sight put the fear of God into the rancher. He told me that he rushed away from the window. Snuggled down between the floor and wall. Didn't sleep the remainder of the entire night utterly petrified. No sounds were heard except for the animal's cries and then silence. At dawn, the rancher, dressed, rushed out to the corral area and found--less than 30 feet away from his bedroom window . . . the mutilated carcass of the same cow he had seen levitated by the craft. Calling the sheriff, he contacted authorities who listened to his story and basically told him he couldn't do anything about these incidents. The authorities were helpless.
I talked to him about this and he told me that Robert Stack's television program, "Unsolved Mysteries," had contacted him about the event, arranged an interview and he talked to them on camera. The rancher said he would do it under the condition that his face not be shown nor any identifying information be divulged. The harrowing incident put such fear into him that he decided all of the weird events he had witnessed over the many years he had owned the ranch--and he was raised there as a youngster--would keep him there no longer and that he had decided to sell the property and move to his other land in Arizona. I know this individual personally as I was also a horseman and accompanied him in the Arizona mountains on pack trips. He was a very dependable, conservative veteran, with many contracts to do work for electric utilities, as well as a solid work and community trustworthiness. Knowing his sincere story and knowing his background leaves no doubt in my mind. The story is true and I believe . . . quite reliable . . . if it came from him. This rancher is SOLID and CREDIBLE. This bizarre narrative is not something he would "make up." He received no money for this. Publicity was not welcome because of his work with Arizona utilities and he could not believe what he had seen--but had to accept the fact this had ACTUALLY occurred. "This was so frightening," he said to me, "I simply couldn't stay here any longer." True story and I vouch for him.
Ufo are real,, like the city of biringan..
I really read all that. Worth it
Thank you for sharing this story...i believe everything you said
@@appletv1212 The rancher passed away in 2010. He was a great guy to know and our mutual work with electric utilities on pack horse patrols marks him as a good friend and honest witness. He was an able horseman and competent equine trainer. He was well known in the horse world as I should know.
@Gallant Zodiac We were saddened by the horse mutilations which occurred in the area, since we were both equestrians. He was a significant officer in the Appaloosa Horse organization world and I was involved with Quarter Horses. This event, I forgot to mention, happened in the late 1980s.
I am 38 now and I haven’t really told anyone this because people wouldn’t believe it. I was 16 driving on a backwood dirt road that I lived on. My friend and I saw 4 dome shaped objects in the sky sitting still. 2 of them were on top and the other 2 were on the bottom in almost a perfect square. They dropped down a little in exact harmony. They then flew away in opposite directions of each other. It looked like they basically just disappeared. This was also in day light.
When was this?
@@christopherskipp1525 When I was 16 im 40 now. 24 years ago.
@@jasonhull2163 I don't doubt what you saw.
I seen a flying saucer early in the dawn morning, had white light like a laser on us. Over in the western side of Navajo reservation it was less than a hundred to yards away.
They have always been here and continue to be here.
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huge underground Alien bases out there that govnt helped Aliens build.
Honestly, I would love to go just for the tranquility there. Those UFOs for sure would be really cool to look for.
It is not bad living here other then most of the people
Careful. Them UFOs always trying to catch people and put all kind of hell up in their butt.
@@lostinpa-dadenduro7555 sorry about all the probing, apparently contraban in there was just a statistical anomaly.
@@lostinpa-dadenduro7555 not really common at all, most here have seen UFOs have yet to meet a prob victim
You may spot a UFO....no doubt about it. But you'll never spot an extraterrestrial artificial object, just because you can't spot that which doesn't exist.
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I lived there from 1984-1999 .
I remember early one morning before it got light , I woke up in bed , looked out my window and saw a bright fireball streaking across the sky.
Strange thing was that nothing was said about it in the news.I thought it had to be a meteorite at first but now I don't know
I live here now. I've seen a few things in the sky that I could not explain, and everyone I know who has lived here longer has seen more
Would be interesting to hear Sceptic Magazine's view on the USS Nimitz's ufo sightings over the years.
They would deny it as it would be the end of their magazine and career, The Space X corporation has actual footage, in space, of a triangular vehicle passing the I.S.S, and cut the feed short
Why - they deny "everything" no matter what..
Ohh Easy. Too many options. Let's see: They are all SWAMP GAS, WEATHER BALOON, OWLS, VENUS AND LIGHTHOUSES. (IF IT IS SEEN ON RADAR THEN IT IS A TEMPERATURE INVERSION) People who see them are hilly-billy idiots. Anybody claiming contrary is a tinfoil douchebag. Aand in order to seem "sciency and smart" let's quote Occam's Razor. Spewing meaningless words like rational, plausaible, mundane, human mind playing tricks, mass hypnosis, myths. Oh and of course Occam's Razor, because nobody can be the edgy-sciency guy without uttering it. I think I've made it for you sire.
@@gursugursakal5601 As long as you cannot prove ETs are here as a fact the debunkers are happy !
Science cannot prove the Sun is real because it cannot be moved into the Lab !
That is why Judges give high degree of credence to eye witnesses which we have over 1 million UFO witnesses by now on Earth !
I know ETs are here on Earth , the evidence is overwhelming indeed !
It's 4/22/21.. 3 DAYS AGO, NAVY SHIP TAKES PICTURES OF UFO'S..
TRIANGLE SHAPED AND VERY ROUND"ISH", NOT FLAT.
That professional sceptic sounds like the kinda guy who’s parents told him Santa Claus died in a car crash. The guy is so negative.
He is a tool
I agree, he is an idot for sure
@@FaderFlosser he's not a tool but but more like a fool
Totally closed minded
Yes he's dreadful.
I love this valley! I lived in Crestone for a couple of years.
skepticism can also be viewed as mass hysteria, LOL !. PEACE.
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Whoever made this should have talked to a local. (I live in Saguache county)
First, Salida is NOT in the SLV, you have to go over Poncha Pass to get to the SLV from Salida. It is not the Entry to the SLV, that would be Poncha Springs. Salida is not a community of artists so much as it is a community of rich widows that jacked the cost of living up so high that artists cannot afford to live there anymore.
The UFO Observatory near Hooper (where the first recorded case of livestock mutilation happened) would be a better destination than Salida, if UFOs are actually your interest. Crestone, where Stephen Greer's group was able to repeatedly call down UFOs, Mount Blanca, which the indigenous people report an alien base under that goes back as long as their legends...
The SLV was a pilgramage spot for shaman from as far as the Yucatan and Iroquois areas in ancient times.
Salida, unlike the SLV, pumps a whole bunch of money into its tourism, because it wants to be the next yuppie hellhole like Aspen or Vail. The SLV has the Sand Dunes, Pentente Canyon (some of the best rock climbing in the world) and like half of the 14ers in Colorado.
There's also much more interesting and better documented stories than the UFO sightings, like the giant snake (reportedly large enough that it was able to lift its head 6 feet off the ground) that the BLM (Bureau of Land Management. Saguache is largely national forest land, and, frankly, there is only like one black permanent resident in the county last I knew, so the other BLM is not really relevant around here {Tho he does matter, I haven't met him, I guess he is a vet who moved out here to be away from people}, unless the B was Brown, as we do have a large Latina/o population and a pretty large indigenous and Asian population as well.) went to great lengths to seal off the cave of.
They completely skipped Crestone, a town up next to the back side of the dunes that houses 7 Tibetian Buddhist centers, 3 Zen Buddhist centers, 3 Hindu Ashrams, a Carmelite Retreat, 2 Native American groups, a Sufi group, and several other religious groups from around the world. It also is where Stephen Greer has the offices where he led groups on multiple occasions that claimed to have called down UFOs. Crestone is considered to be a spiritual vortex equal to or stronger than Sedona by the types who believe in such things.
Ok, when they show Judy, it becomes obvious this documentary is old. I would guess at least 20 years old. Which would explain why they say Salida is an artist town.
(Judy is an awesome lady, and it's $10/night to camp at her place by the watchtower, which, even without UFO's, has arguably the best view in the valley from its platform. But she is MUCH younger in this. Although I saw no UFOs there, I, along with another camper who I met there both saw unexplainable movement of lights on the ground that were solar ground lamps when I went to examine, but we both saw them move, and there was noone else around.)
Aside from the UFO Observatory and Colorado Gators and KRZA, I have not noticed any of the other businesses mentioned here in a few years of living here.
The Taos valley is a separate valley. I don't know if the inn there is still around. Probably as Taos is a more stable economy.
The only people I know out here who have not seen things in the night sky are those that do not look at it.
Thank you for providing a more accurate picture of our beautiful valley. 👀🌌
My girlfriend lived in del Norte area. She saw conical, spinning beams of light, “aimed” at the sky. She used a compost toilet and lived in a small camper and would get a lot of night sky while being there. Her mom and moms boyfriend confirmed the sighting.
In Wyoming my dad saw a ball of light (described as looking like a headlight) moving above the ground unnaturally. My family from Wyoming has many many UFO stories, I even have a half grandpa who claimed to have been abducted.
Thanks for the insight, super valuable stuff. I’ll be reading this to my girlfriend soon
Oh and sorry for the spam, but a not on the chimera type claims... she described the coyotes as “mutated.” Usually coyotes are skinny and small but these ones were large and well fed.
Very good comment on the focus of the documentary .
I lived in the SLV for over 30 years.
The documentary does not mention that the SLV is including in huge MOA, Military Operations Area.
I kept binoculars with me , even at work.
On a daily basis you could see military aircraft.
I would sit outside after dark and observe all sorts of lighted aerial objects, most of which could be explained, some were not so explainable!!
Go and see it before the "eclectic" hipsters from Crestone ruin it.
The universe is old billions of galaxies you really think we are the only ones around look up and wake up..
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That Shermer guy is in fear for some reason....
"Me thinks thou dost protest too much"
The way he keeps smiling says he's lying to your face. He's trying too hard to explain it all away. Which means he knows something he doesn't want you to know. Or he really really doesn't want aliens to be a reality.
@@Katiesarabians ...yeah, seems to fear a reality beyond his control...bad childhood maybe ?
Shermer, Shermer. Shermer what? mmm...No. No evidence!
Being a skeptic is one thing, but for whatever reason this dude comes off as an asshole or dickhead. A matter of factness that borders on smartass !!!
We all have skeletons in our closet but lizard skeletons?
Definition of a skeptic - a person inclined to question or doubt accepted opinions. Michael Shermer is not a skeptic, he is a TOTAL non-believer and NOT even interested in anything but his own very close minded opinion. I don't know if they're real or not, but I do believe it is definitely a real possibility. I've never personally seen one so .......
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Beautiful area , reminds me of Banff Alberta Canada . And yes folks we got'em up here too ! Lol .
@nottoday son ...I have plenty of videos
Yes, Banff....my gosh, my friends friends lived in a cabin for awhile south of there in Mount Index, Washington back in 1970....they would always double say the f's on the end and laugh like stoned hippies ! ...Lol
@nottoday son my channel or what you said ?
@nottoday son it was ok
They just want the beer eh??? :p
I am not exactly a "true believer" but trying to explain one mystery by invoking another is kinda weak Shermer...
The 1897 sightings where an accident we didn't think anyone would notice👽👽
Plays more like a holiday program 'Come to wonderful San Luis Valley!' It does look lovely there though.
You are right. It was simply selling an area in the U.S, using the U.F.O story to do so.
It is lovely here. I hear birds louder than traffic most of the time.
@jerry calvert don't see robins here. Magpies, hawks, owls, cowbirds, hummingbirds, and a bunch of others, but no robins.
Salida is not in San Luis valley, any more than walsenburge or Pagosa
"The visitors will try and create the impression that they are “the allies of humanity.” They will say they are here to save humanity from itself, that only they can offer the great hope that humanity cannot provide for itself, that only they can establish true order and harmony in the world. But this order and this harmony will be theirs, not yours. And the freedom that they promise will not be yours to enjoy." Excerpt from alliesofhumanity org
I barely made it to the end. The mental gymnastics of the so-called Skeptics became almost unbearable. These guys are making a living off of being assholes. What kind of a doctor does that?
Shermer has solved it!!! No point in adding more testimonials, radar data, footage, videos, witness accounts, trace evidence and so on. Congratulations Mr Shermer!! By the way, Travis rode a blimp for five days, Ariel schoolchildren saw an anomaly whilst suffering overheating, tictac was a tiktok.
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You are delusional. There's no evidence of the existence of Shermer! NO evidence at all. I will pay you if you show me some evidence of his existence: a tooth, his credit card, a wing, a great-great-grandfather, etc
@@miguelfarrell1437 Oh God !! Shermer has always been a knee-jerk a-hole and will always be one. We need real skeptics. Not hack-frauds.
I'm not an extraterrestrial and want to come and see your lovely valley.. It's so beautiful. Warm South African greetings 👌💞🕊️
I want to visit South Africa! Let’s trade houses!
No evidence? Ball lightening?
Ok, if you believe that, I have some swamp land I'll sell you cheap, lol!
Not Shermer! Shows that Bozos can get Doctorates. That's why I stopped at my Bachelors....As soon as I see Shermer I turn it off! I can't believe he still gets calls! He'll eventually be made a FOOL....but the C.I.A. LOVES him!
Agreed. I’m suspicious that anybody could be that thick. But then again, denial no matter what is how he pays his bills.
There's no evidence of such a thing...Shermer, Shermer...No, never seen.
these skeptics look extra dumb here in 2021 since the navy uap vids got released
Salida IS NOT in the San Luis Valley. its at the bottom of a pass (road and narrow gauge railroad) where you descend down from the Valley.
Very spiritual and reverent experience as I must return some day.
Hike the waterfall near the dunes “forgot the name”
Incredibly spiritual for me.
@@lindboknifeandtool Zapata Falls
I used to live in the san Luis valley in the early 1990s
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WOOW - Really ? Tell us all about it - PLEASE ! 🤞
Since my first sighting at the age of 12 I have seen UFOs 6 different times and 4 of those times have been since 2015.
Me too I seen flying saucer really close up back in 97, than on and off the latest one I seen was south of Durango Colorado. This was green color, it took off like it went into hyper drive just like the Star wars movie.
I am a skeptic/atheist, but these skeptics rile me up.
I've been keeping this to myself for years now, I've told a few people about it, but I can say 100% that the Edwards footage is a flying saucer and I really believe it was being controlled by a alien source, because it was at the end of 1999 slash 2000, I seen the exact same saucer hovering over my job when I got off work, and it was 3 to 4 football fields in distance at the most away from me, maybe even closer and I could make out the windows on it, and I turned to my friends and everyone seen it and acted like it was no big deal, and I had this feeling as if I was being watched, but anyways I jumped in the back of my friends pickup truck for a ride to my brothers house about 2 and a half miles away, and the saucer stayed with us the whole way, strangely at the same distance the whole way there, so I got dropped off by my friend and started walking down the dirt road leading to my brothers house and lost sight of it in the tree line, when I got to my brothers house, I wanted to use my brothers beta camera I think that was the kind of camera he had at the time, but when I went back outside I couldn't see it still, just wished I could got it on film, cause I can say 100 % it's real and it does exist
I seen it over courtney north Carolina
And by the way it was a clear blue sky that day no clouds anywhere and the saucer looked very white in appearance
I swear I felt like something was watching me from the windows of this saucer
And that's only a minor encounter, what happened to me in 1976 as a young boy was the major encounter and that's why I know 100% that we're not alone in this universe
And I hate it when someone is a skeptic on this topic, and tries to blow it off as something else, I'm so sure from the encounters I've had over the years, that it makes me think these skeptics are either complete dumb ass people or part of a secret agenda to hide the truth, the truth is I've had so many encounters in my life, I always remember my first thoughts on every encounter, and those thoughts are, if our God made us, what God made them
I have property in Sangre de Cristo mountains overlooking the San Luis Valley, the elevation of my property is about 9,000 ft, covered in pinon and other pines as well as aspens. Every couple of nights during late summer, I'd see some sort of space craft in flight in a linear line in an overall shape of a.square, maybe 4x4 square miles and it would do it for hours. Then it would just speed off and vanish. My suspicions is one the military working on some type of radar or it's ET analysing the huge network of aspens trees and living organisms
Is there a military base around there? I saw cargo helicopter fling out of the SDC mountains every morning while at the dunes. My gf saw beams of light at del Norte.
Congrats on the land, that’s a dream!
The "skeptics" were more prejudiced than skeptical.
I am a skeptic, yet I'm more open to possibilities than these guys.
I always say it’s good to be a skeptic but there are two kinds. Closed minded skeptics and open minded skeptics. It’s better to be the second one
I live in the San luis Valley I live in del norte colorado I believe are whole town was abducted one night there's definitely something strange going on here
I wonder if food tastes the same to Michael Shermer with all of those words interacting with the taste buds on his tongue.
Great vid even though it is 20 years plus. Christopher O’Brien’s books are amazing.
Great doc - thx for posting!
Omg, what is wrong with them na sayers i couldn't watch anymore
Next time you decide to make a travel log, leave the Skeptics out of it. They make themselves sound very stupid and closed-minded.
Every UFO encounter ever:
HONEY HONEY, THERE"S A UFO OUTSIDE. GET THE WORST CAMERA WE CAN FIND!!!!!!!!
onsidering this is an old documentary and even the 4k camera on your phone is only good to about 15 feet, it should be no surprise the video is shaky. Try focusing on anything at a distance without a tripod and its going to shake the worse the farther you look out.
Did Tim Edwards contact anyone at all about the "blimp" he saw? If yes, what was he told? If not, why not? Just assumed it away?
Is this a travel and tourism ad?
I always remember a dream from when I was a child and the ufo was parked on my grandmother's street and I was inside the ship
We have nuclear weapons, lasers, railguns and more. To an alien race who wants to study us we present a potential danger. We study lions, tigers and the lot and are wary of their potential to hurt us.
I've been made to sound stupid by someone in the documentary who said the sightings are based on new aircraft. How stupid does he think people are? If hes not seen the glowing orbs ,he should wait or look harder. Atleast then,he'll stop being a skeptic who takes peoples claims to be delusional.
Somethings no matter how much you're being payed to explain things away, you just can't do it.
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The implausible debunking theories are laughable !
Mass hallucinations are a hoot !
Strange and mysterious place
I am from West Africa, I just want to tell Dr Michael Sherman that he should stop what he is saying, the people who are claiming they have seen things are not stupid , if he hasn't seen one he should insulting the others and go to bed . He is really pissing me off .
2021: UFOs are real says the Pentagon!
2015: It's Mass Hysteria in the middle of a swamp gas vein with a weather balloon farting ...😵
I would like to see the face of that skeptic when the military admitted there is unidentified craft that they cannot explain I bet that shut that fell up quick like.
So Shermer feels there are no extra terrestrials?
guys a tool lol seen him on Joe Rogan show
Destination Earth, 1999 - Newcleus.
Jim Marrs manages to come off as a complete joke, with the SETI guy not far behind.
Why oh why, don’t these guys have a tripod for their camera?
Ikr....they never seem to have one. :/
Not everyone has one and even if they did the UFO could be gone by the time they'd have set it up.
I see lights by chimney Rock and broken off mt. multi colored. they don't move. one of the neighbors sees orbs flying in same area.
Aspen Springs! You are just north of Dulce and Archuleta Mesa.
I seen just south of Durango, it was green took off like Star wars movie, like it went into hyper drive, seen a lot on Navajo reservation where I'm from. Seen a flyer saucer less than 100 yards away back in 98, seen the triangle one, seen a mother ship this spring too. Seen one just north of where I live dumping glowing what looks like a glowing waste.
God BLESS EVERYONE!!
Last photograph clearly shows a bird in flight
Sun baked deserts of Northern New Mexico? Come on, dude. Have you ever been to Northern New Mexico? Not very deserty. Majestic mountains; some plains, perhaps; but not sunbaked deserts.
It's all probably from Nellis Airforce Base and Area 51 S4
Tim Edwards video was not a Blimp, and that's mainly seen.
A blimp! HahahaHaHahahaHa! I'm not buying it. Especially from this fool who claims that. He's a fool.
If it was a blimp, then why hasn't the people flying the blimp come forward?
Dr. Tom McDonough. S.E.T.I coordinator for 23 years. Searching for extraterrestrial life .... and .... he is chief scientist Skeptic for the Skeptics Society. You literally couldn't make it up.
I suggest your listeners research Richard Doty. His explanation of the "UFO phenomenon" may change their minds about what they think they saw.
Doty was Air Force Counterintelligence Officer who specialized in disinformation. He's admitted to disinforming Paul Benowitz and Linda Moulten Howe and is suspected of many other things that can't be proven. He's retired now and admits everything he says nowadays is true but I'd take everything he says with a huge grain of salt because many of the claims he has made are undoubtedly not true. Personally, I believe he was maybe read into a secret ufo program about recovered craft and possibly bodies but that's it. He's contradicted himself and changed details in his stories way too much over the years for me to trust him.
There's a UFO base there.
I WONDER HOW HES DEALING WITH LIFE NOW THAT THE GOVERNMENT SAYS THEY ARE REAL
You kiddin me? He’s probably rationalizing it away. It’s simpletons like him that’s the reason the government can’t tell us what’s goin on for the fear of people like him losin they’re minds and grips on reality and society falling into an apocalypse. It’s folks like HIM that are holding us all back from full disclosure
The visitors seem to like hills and mountains. My family and I used to see them every night over the Adelaide hills in South Australia in the 70s and 80s. When they would speed up they would glow brighter and duller when moving slow. Sometimes they would stop dead and hover like a bird of pray waiting to pounce then drop strait to the ground. They could change direction very sharply no curving manoeuvres just strait angle turns. One night we saw a very large light blue triangle it was very high up it moved slowly across the sky with no noise totally silent. In the 70s and 80s there were a lot of reports of cattle mutilation reported in the hills. I've seen them recently stopping and dropping to the ground when driving over the hills at night so I believe they are still hear!
I heard cattle mutilation over in Dulce, New Mexico too.
Yep
It's a small town
The radio station is run on DOS
With possibly the only functioning floppy disc in the states
The skeptics’ logic here has aged like fine milk.
Its a Brochure for the town.
These Skeptics are laughable
Schirmer's analysis on cattle mutilations regarding ET's traveling millions of miles just to kill cattle misses a whole host of possibilities. For example an abductee noted she was told that the samples taken were to determine whether the species and us are subject to a certain bacteria/disease that we cannot see in our microscopes but that they can see by getting down to the atomic level to determine the existence of this threat. This makes perfect sense especially if they made us and do not wast to see us die off. So Schirmer is rationalizing his analysis as well as anyone else would I just wish he wold acknowledge that his position is only a theory and until. we can get to the bottom of this, his theories are no better than anyone else's. In a court of law we rely upon eye witnesses every day. We rely upon experts to help as well. If an advanced species is here analyzing us they would want to do so with as little interruption as possible. Especially if we were an experiment. Life abounds in space all around us, and I say that the best evidence is that we are here, and we have souls, that are probably ET in nature. So then I suppose that really messes up the equation for sides.
Yea he’s falling into the “argument from ignorance” fallacy.. he is literally using that fallacy
Europea is where im from we come in peace you humans just needs to save 🌎 God is coming 🙏 pray amen God bless you and ur family and ur enemies
1 like 👍 or not God bless you is all I came to say cause God will never for get about use amen 🛸
The river run inn hotel has a creepy face 😂 😂
Look Under Ground, Just like the big hairy guy.
Why with all these commercials with a male in them does the male act gay or weak...Disgusting...
More brainwashing techniques. Identity politics. I notice it everywhere lately. And i agree, its disgusting! Mainly because the sheep fall for it.
These 2 guys are in denial full force, so much so I have no choice but to question just as strong. I believe they are desensitizing us to their existence since we have been led to believe otherwise. They will show us in due time.
Heartfelt thanks to The Planet Police 👮♂️👮♂️🌏🌌🙏
This is a tourism advert disguised as a documentary. Has no-one else noticed.
Denile runs has deep and long as the Nile in Egypt! Where the Pyramids dwell.
Denial !
@@ijamsum oh thank you so much for reminding me there's always the Spell check Police in Comments when my android phone fails to spell check! Or maybe you missed the pun of my statement! And it's more important that grammar and corrections of proper punctuation and paragraphs are more important then the message, the Point, as to what it is I'm attempting to express on utube, and just have A little tolerance and understanding instead of critical Criss! Or Nik, Picky Nikki! Not mad just calmly IRRATATED!
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Narrow thinking limits the IQ
God how old is this documentary? Has to be the mid 90s, the people in that ET restaurant...the hair and clothes tho holy shit
Info I found online said it was published in 2015. But the computer monitors shown near 15:40 do not seem to be circa 2015.
Oh, and at 16:30 -- " monitors enemy planes missiles and spacecraft to warn of any impending attack on the u.s" .. maybe not so much for spy balloons.
Top full free place
These skeptics don’t believe their own mothers gave birth to them
Is this a documentary about U.F.O. sightings or a promotional video for the San Luis valley?
My thoughts exactly ..seems like it might have been produced by the Colorado tourism board.
What a beautiful Valley that is 🙏🌎❤️
Lived there in the 70s. I still miss it sometimes. Well, except for the Winters.😉😂
Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !"
Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam."
Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!"
Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..."
Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!"
Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky."
Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction."
Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment?
IF YOU GO TO ALAMOSA, BRING YOUR OWN WEED.
The guy who bred the strain Master Kush, lives in del norte
5:00...ok, what about things that you can’t see/find and it’s right in front of you?
Shermer is a hack. Seems to know alot about places he's never been. Pyramids being one place.....
Great pyramids of Egypt^
@Gallant Zodiac they are not trying to discredit natives who lived there for decades either. Your argument is disingenuous or atleast grasping at straws. Klaus Schmidt worked on Gobekli tepe for 20+ years
People that think we are alone are self centered and should open their minds. We are not alone cant wait for the day.
Is this video about UFOs or about traveling to Colorado??
1980's computers. So why release the footage now?
Let's say they're military secret air crafts, what if one of those strange military things crashes to the mountains.
And the crashes, are dangerous, what are the people to do, isn't. There a law against doing military anything, on the city below, so let's say it is Air Forces. Will the military do secret missions on local people.
Is it just me or is this area of the US stuck in 1986. Video one day old lol. Oooookayyy
You mean with the computers? I could not help but notice the 1980's computers
Well, that was a textbook example of how not to argue for rational, skeptical explanations of unexplained phenomena. Dismissively sneering at witnesses and persons who believe they have been affected by UFO's is a surefire way to drive them far away from science and reason. On a positive note, nice to see the late Stan Friedman, trying to keep things relatively balanced.
Well Exactly !!! But then that Shermer guy has nothing to do with science. He's a poseur, he's a "hack-fraud". Someone just described RationalWiki as "Rationality is their flag, not their method." Shermer is the exact incarnation of this caricature of ""knock-off rationality". Science is a set of methods, it has nothing to do with spewing nonsense like: " Ohhh they've came from light years mastering interstellar technology and landed on Farmer Bob's land. Impossible !!!" Its just plain being a douche-bag. We need real skeptics.
This was made before cell phones. Interesting.
I think the Skeptics are skeptical about the people who are Skeptics?🙃
If there was no editing where a transition of someone walking then it goes into.slowmo and black and white with a shakey camera and the creepy murder mystery music people wouldn't take this documentary nearly as seriously lol
You spend lots of money on a watch tower and you don't have cameras?🤔
Scientific measurement is quite limited it's what you want to see
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Actually it is not. Only the scientific measurement tools available in the hands of citizens are very limited. Governments' info gathering capacity and capabilities are vastly greater. But they are not for you and I citizens !!! This phenomena had been constantly observed by U.S. and U.K. Governments (and probably by former USSR) for at least 80 years since the "Foo Fighters" of WW II. (There is a good chance that shortly after other governments followed suit.) They have been observing this data for nearly a century not with some "Crowd Funded" basic equipment but with every imaginable Top of the Line, State of the Art Uber-Super gadget, instrument, equipment, sensor, computer, machine, radar, spectograph, telescope, camera, satellite etc. SO THEREFORE: Governments has already AT LEAST all kinds and sorts of "Scientific" data that we "Citizen Scientists" hope to achieve and collect in the future few decades with limited instruments and most certainly MUCH MORE. They (Governments) have all the quality cool toys and instruments, long observation periods and large data sets of thousands of cases. They certainly know and analyzed all their flight characteristics, flight paths, hot spots, source orbits in space, patterns etc.