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Thanks man. Fixed it all with my new Sony X85K. Looks better. At the end of the day it’s all what you like. But it makes sense and looks better to me. Thanks again! 🙏🎄
I was having a washed out misty gaming session on little hope and house of ashes while having my ps5 and c1 both on auto, and as soon as I switched to Limited on both what a big difference everything looked amazing.
So in other words if im playing on a monitor then I will have to put it in full range bc monitor were meant for pc?
I can attest to the CX not using auto correct. Most of the time it does the job in auto (any HDR for example) but I was playing through Arkham knight (SDR) only to realize auto setting is NOT correct. Therefore, he is correct in that you can’t really leave it on auto as I can match up the wrong settings unfortunately. Low and limited seems to be the way to go I guess 🤷🏻♂️
But low & limited on cx & ps5 makes the screen darker but both on auto makes it lighter. 😆
Im using an Xbox Series X and a Gigabyte M32U gaming monitor and have had my console Colour Space set to PC RGB for some time now and straight away noticed blacks are actually black and looks alot better.
For Oleds, you can use Standard. For Qled, you can use both specially RGB and it'll make the blacks not washed out while maintaining high peak brightness.
Heard the only reason one might want full range is HDR calibration. Technically, it's more accurate with full range since each "click" is identical on the RGB scale. While with limited range, they're all slightly different.
But it probably doesn't matter all that much in practice.
Allso..I HIGHLY recommend buying a t.v. that actually has a P.C. mode....has a natural softening effect an sharpness at the same time...then you can set R.G.B. range to Limited wich frees up performance in your system for more important things like framrate.
Rgb level has nothing to do with performance
PC mode also engages 4:4:4 👌
Excellent video. Very clear and straight to the point.
What about setting your tvs hdmi ports to be recognized as pc as well? I have my C1 set to pc, xbox rgb on standard and black level automatic on tv. This is the best combo I have used to date. Seemed to help with black crush a bit and still give a nice image. No dtm, using hgig. Bumped color to 60.
Depends on the tv but yes this can also mitigate or fix issues on some models.
On mine that doesn't work sadly 😅
Mate where do you change tvs hdmi ports to be recognised as PC? Will that make it look better in games? Cant figure out also if i should use standard or pc rgb. Have lg g1 oled
This is so helpfull. Thanks alot I am using a va panel pc monitor to my ps5 and got confused if the color is right. As I used to nvidia full range RGB but didn't know to whether to use consoles full RGB or limited. Thanks for the knowledge
Your most welcome 😁
THANK YOU! Most clear explanation and I’ve been looking everywhere. ONE PROBLEM with mine. My tv has an auto option, and when i have both on auto my game still presents as if both was on full 🤷 So from I what I learned here I am now going to manually set both to limited whenever I play on my console for the ‘proper’ way? Full is for PC, limited for console correct? It does look better on limited, even though theres a slight loss of detail in the darkest areas, though looks more punchy. I am using a ps4 and a lg 4k uhd tv
The thing is there is no easy answer cause every tv and monitor is diffirent u have to be the judge. With my experience with my monitor if i put it on limited i get this foggy faded look, so i put it on full range and on my monitor settings turn black levels down a bit, contrast and color vibrance/saturation down a couple of notches that way the picture wont look super contrasty
Your not wrong but Monitors always use full range.
So if your using a monitor it should be set to full rgb.
Or on x box Pc rgb
The reason is because the monitors color range is slightly wider then a tvs. :).
It is tricky tho :)
@@nosystemisperfect9954 Right
Yeah, it's tough. I have a 48" LG C2 OLED and on one hand, I want the intended picture, but on the other hand, setting any device (PS5, XSX, NSW, PC) to Full RGB and the TV to Limited RGB makes the picture better in my eyes. Setting both to Limited gives me a hazy Gray washed out look.
While this video didn't explain what I wanted, it confirmed I should be using full range. I'm using a 1440p PC monitor on my PS5 and for months it looked super washed out. Switching to full range did not crush my blacks and now looks far sharper and clear. I still have yet to find anyone talking about how to properly use a monitor with a PS5.
So what settings did you end up using?
So i tried using my vizio v series 50" 4k tv on its normal setting with my xbox and after calibrating the tv through the xbox settings the black level was still washed out and not sharp. After i enable pc rgb on my xbox and tv the color was way better the black was actually sharp and clear without any bright pixelated fuzz. My brightness and contrast are 50, backlight is 80-100 2.2 gamma, color 70, and sharpness at 40. For gaming these settings are great if you have the same tv i recommend.
if my tv hasn't is it safe to but PC rgb on my Xbox series S?
Isnt console or Tv related but I set mine from nvidia control panel range to full and my monitor's range to full as well but it seems everything got way darker. Then I set both to limited it got way washed out. What do I do in this situation? Should I set the both to opposite values?
My TV has a full range setting
I am using a monitor for my ps4 should I use full rgb range?
Yes because Computer monitors use “full range” every time unless they are custom tuned to “limited range” which is very rare but does happen.
i always use limited rgb range but on the other hand keep hdr always on to have a more color and contrast even on games which don't necessary support hdr
Hey its a preference thing.
The only issue I have found is that when you enable Always on hdr it will darken the overall image and over saturate colors effectively creating a "fake hdr".
So the issue with this is that details get crushed or improperly displayed.
However I digress if you like the look of that better then who am I to say what you should or shouldn't do with your tv and your personal. Settings.
I'm just a small Time TH-camr after all 😁
@@nosystemisperfect9954 yea, guess it's better to use on when supported by the game
Man, i think that after reading your answers you are the only one that can help me. I have a Sony tv and everything is at his peak: allm, vrr, etc… . My cable is hdmi 2.1, tv supports 2.1 and when I play TH-cam or Twitch on the playstation i have RGB (HDR). The question is: WHY the F*** when i play a game, let’s say The last of us 2 and 1, i ALWAYS have YUV422? Why not RGB?
Hai attivato i 120hz?
It is because Sony has capped the PS5 HDMI at 32gbs instead of the full 48gbs.
When the hdmi is capped like that you are limited to how much data can pass through.
However it only does it for games.
Why Sony did this still baffles me to this day.
Whenever you play a game with HDR it will inevitably downsample it to YUV422 due to that cap Sony have.
I know this probably isn’t the answer you wanted and I was hoping Sony would eventually patch that out but they still haven’t done so.
The one way to get around it is to set your console and tv both to full range so that it forces full range RGB and you will see HDR in RGB but I don’t recommend doing that as it won’t be an accurate picture.
Also check the full bandwidth of your hdmi ports.
Sometimes a tv says 2.1 but in actuality it’s not true 2.1 and you can’t get that full bandwidth even if the PlayStation wasn’t capped.
It’s a common problem because there is no HDMI 2.1 standard so any manufacturer can claim 2.1 but not have certain features of 2.1.
I hope this helps ya 🙂
@@claudiosar7988 Certo, sono in automatico
@@nosystemisperfect9954 Honestly you helped me a LOT! I hope that it will be fixed. So this is a software cap right? Because my tv is a Sony KDX85K from 2022 and my cable is also 2.1 because it has the QR code certification from HDMI. That’s mad. We don’t have real 4K on Playstation and then we cannot even play HDR on RGB.
@@nosystemisperfect9954 Oh yeah thank you first of all and I don’t use the hdmi cable from the playstation 5
M a c box series S guy.I've got a monitor but not full 4k and is 165hz. Should I put hdmi or auto detect on overdrive ? Thanks
Hey bro i have a tcl tv it doesn't have black level option i think it automatically adjust the black levels
One thing I’ve noticed I went into accessibility and change the color filter and it made my games like 20 times better even though it’s for color blind people and I’m not colorblind
How? I mean how is it 20 times better?
@@amon6894 just more clear and vibrant but with a good display u do t really need to change it it because I did notice it made greens look odd so went back to standard
So on my LG C9 should I use Limted / Low or PC Mode Auto/ Auto?
For me I got fire tv insignia what color depth and range should I be on
Thank You!!!
Not sure if this will work when i hook back up my Playstation classic (The First One) with this LevelHike Gizmo i just got...
That now gives off a GREEN-ISH Color and makes Ms PACMAN GREEN!! >:( Grrrrrr ...it plays Great but she is GREEN :( smh
But this AWESOME TIP made my PS4 Look even BETTER!!!...WOW
Thank You so much!!...
It`s so SHARP and CLEAR now..Looks you could reach in the Screen and Really Kill someone playing GRAND THEFT AUTO V!!! Lol ...A W E S O M E!!!!!!!
Hi does my Samsung lc24rg54fquxzg have Full rgb?
Great video thank you now can you please explain what the hell the ycc 422 settings mean next ?
Ycc 422 eh?
Sure I'll look Into that for ya 😁
So my apologies life has gotten in the way abit but I haven’t forgotten about explaining this.
I want to do a proper job tho and I also want to simplify it.
It all comes down to subsampling on tvs and how to explain that without getting technical is very tricky lol
I am working on it tho so stay tuned 😁
@@nosystemisperfect9954 ycc is always limited range. It also reduces chroma(color) by half resolution in both axis. for context RGB is always 4:4:4
@No System Is Perfect Right. I remember chroma subsampling relies on the fact that human vision is more sensitive to luminance information than chroma (color) information. And at 4K resolution, it's hard to see the difference between RGB Limited, YCC 422, or 420, unless you look closely at text against a plain background.
MY XBOX SERIS X only outputs 4:2:0 YCBCR when I switch to 4k 120. As soon as I go to 4k 60 I can get full RGB output. How come?
Devi mettere 120hz
Sul oled Panasonic lz1500 devo mettere rgb limitato?
Thanks a big help i have an lg 4k uhd tv and i got a ps5 and i tried using rgb automatic and full and cyberpunk is unplayable the black level crushes shadow and dark areas. I switched to rgb limted and now it's okay. Slightly washed out but theres just no way of using rgb automatic or full games are just far too dark!
Yes you need to use limited and the also limited on the Ps5 because the blacks need to match.
I am glad I was able to help you :).
Previously I responded to this message and I misread what you said so I’m just editing my response now so it’s more proper and not so confusing.
Sorry about that.
Game on 😁
I have a 1080p60 hdr tv that supports pc mode and standard rgb mode so i should switch mines to limited since it is the standard color
Where did you read that monitors use full and tv limited? Nowhere, they are all lcd/oled screens. My ps5 chose full on my tv and limited on my monitor. Where is sense in that?
There are many different articles across the internet about this topic and also other and much larger TH-camrs then me that have talked about it.
To answer your question there is no sense in that however it sounds like you are setting your PS5 to automatic and letting the Ps5 choose your settings for you.
Which is a bad idea.
Unless your tv has a proper “auto setting” and even then I’m hesitant to say to rely on it.
The PS5 is very bad at figuring out what the best settings are for the displays it is plugged into.
When I first plugged it into my tv it defaulted to full and right away I noticed my colors were off. Had I not made that change the “true black” of the Oled would have overshadowed everything.
In my experience and many others,
You should never use limited for a monitor or colors will be washed out and detail lost.
Monitors have always used a different range the TVs.
TVs typically use Limited range automatically but you can force the tv and the console into full.
The problem is that when you do that you lose some details often to slight amounts of black crush but a more punchy and vibrant picture due to colors being off and blacks being extremely dark.
There are of course debates all over the internet but as I said in my video and also when you do your research you will find that the proper settings are what I said.
That’s not to say you can’t disagree or dislike the settings though.
Do what looks best to your eyes and if you’re unsatisfied with the result then you can refer to this video or do some research and come up with your own preferred settings.
I can tell you all day long that these are proper settings but really it’s up to you to decide what is the proper settings for your own screen. :)
Pc rgb in my experience adds lag in games especially fps games on my lg gaming monitor for some reason
What about connecting my ps5 to pc monitor?
Because it is a PC monitor you should use Full Range Rgb on the PS5.
This is because the range of PCs is different from tvs.
Broadcasted tv or movies are mastered with limited range 16-255 in mind but on a computer the range is 0-255
16 being the darkest black on limited
0 being the darkest black on Pc.
Also a bonus tip: if you don’t have a 4k monitor then set the resolution to 1440p as the PS5 now supports it. :).
Hope that helps :)
Hello,i know this is a little bit late but I bought a q70b Samsung QLED 55" TV here in Spain and I only have Auto,LOW and Normal in black level section. The thing is since my seriesX is in standard in color space for me both Auto and Low are the same black levels which are too dark for my taste since it's crushing black details and when I set the TV to normal black level my blacks have way more details and I am able to see faces and my pants colors in the dark in games again. I am pretty confuse why you mentioned putting the TV on LoW or Auto if seriesX it's on standard since for me it's exactly the opposite. My TV it's from 2022 finales and it's a pretty new TV and maybe the denominations fir AUTO, LOW AND NORMAL ARE NOT the same as you describe in the video. I hope you understand what I mean and I will gladly appreciate a response. Auto and Low are too dark,normal it's the best option for me,😳
Okay so I had to do a little bit of research to make sure my facts are straight since i use an Older Samsung model.
A couple of things to check.
First make sure Ambient Light sensor is turned off.
Make sure contrast enhancer is shut off as this will over brighten whites and darken the blacks.
Turn off "Motion lighting" as that will adjust light based on the motion of your game which will mess up rgb as well.
increase ST 2084 20 +3 in order to brighten the image
Adjust color space to "Auto"
Turn game mode on to "auto"
Under game mode switch of "game motion plus"
Now the other reason why your blacks may be off or crushed is because the X box RGB is slightly over extended. X box does this to make their games look more "punchy"
However the correct values should be black level low on the tv and Standard on the x box.
I also recommend setting your color bit depth to 8 bit as your games will play in 8 bit unless they are hdr then the x box will automatically switch over.
if you set 10 bit then the x box will force 10 bit on 8 bit games which will affect your picture further.
For HDR make sure you are using HGIG as well. Adjust white level till the image disappears and then adjust the black to the lowest possible setting.
if none of this works or helps then ill try looking into it further. :)
@@nosystemisperfect9954 Okay, here I go after 1 month of testing my new Q70B Samsung with my seriesX. All about the ambient lighting and energy saving it's not worth to talk since I already have that off on my TV so here I go;. First of all from what I heard the Samsung TV'S don't work properly with HGiG ( maybe 2023 models from what I heard but not mine) since when I activate it in my games over bright the picture to the extreme (which i heard it means that even if I have Dynamic TM off on my TV the TV it's still tone mapping on top of HGIG wich results in double tone mapping...I know,crazy) so I only play on standard HDR which looks great. My clor dept it's 24bits per pixel (8-bit) and I have ycc 422 uncecked since supposedly my TV it's 2.1 HDMI but I find out sadly only after buying it it's only 100hz not 120 (8bits+ FRC) but I can still gaming at 120 fps trough VRR. To be honest I let it be at 60hz since it gives me problems in SDR content like TH-cam viewing etc since like I said it's not native 120hz only 100hz. With 60hz enabled and picture clarity settings with blurr reduction at 10 and judder at 4 I get an amazing experience without opera effect and picture clarity settings get rid of all color banding and flickering for me and now my TV runs amazing. Now talking about Gaming I always game on game mode (game motion plus off most of the time ,only using it in some titles like assassins Creed title for smother experience but only with it active without touching motion Blur or judder since it adds lag.... with motion blurr reduction and judder at 0 games looks a lot better in game mode and actually the input lag it's almost inexistent since it only goes down in my game bar fro FASTEST to FASTER and not way down to FAST). Now what's most important are the HDMI black levels which for me like I said in previous comment it's NORMAL, LOW, AUTO. MY SERIESX BEING IN STANDARD MODE IT NEEDS THE NORMAL BLACK LEVEL FOR WHEN I WHATCH SDR CONTENT LIKE TH-cam VIDEOS,ETC SINCE AUTO AND LOW HAVE CRUSHED BLACK LEVELS AND U CAN'T SEE DETAILS IN THE DARK EVEN THE IMAGE DOESN'T LOOK BAD AT ALL. ( also the contrasts enhancers are off both SDR and HDR for me since the image looks more natural too me) NOW THE QUESTION IS WHAT HDMI BLACK LEVEL TO USE FOR HDR GAMES SINCE RIGHT NOW ALL MY GAMES LOOK PRETTY GOOD WITH MY SETTINGS BUT I STILL DON'T KNOW WHY I HAVE TOO USE NORMAL HDMI BLACK LEVEL FOR MY SERIESX WHILE ON STANDARD COLOR SPACE AND NOT LOW OR AUTO LIKE ALMOST EVERY TH-cam VIDEO SAYS TO DO.? I know it's a letter and I am sorry but this is beyond stupid and Xbox/Sony and TV manufacturers should get their shit together and make things easier for the average people like us out there. Eagerly waiting for an opinion from you, thanks for everything.✌️
Its a nomenclature issue between lg and Samsung. They use some of the same words but have different meaning. I believe the commenter has the right settings for accurate black levels on samsung.
I have a LG ultragear gaming monitor .. do I put ps4 to full rgb and black level to high or do I have it backwards??
Monitors are meant for full range
Hi I just recently purchased nintendo switch version 2 with metroid prime. But when I docked the system the home screen and text looked blur. Even though my tv is capable of 1080p. I never had this problem with wii u. Plus on metroid dread opening screen the brightness selection marker lines and text looked very jagged. I currently have my screen size set to 96%, and rgb set to automatic and resolution set to automatic. My tv is a samsung full hd 1080p tv. Can you please guide me how to fix this problem?
Hello there!
I will do my best!
First change your Rgb to limited.
Next set your resolution to be 1080p. It sounds like the tv and the Switch are not communicating properly.
Make sure the Samsung is in Game mode as well.
If it isn't then you will get consistent input lag which won't help your cause.
Try these things and let me know if it fixes anything.
@@nosystemisperfect9954 thank you for your reply. I thought about changing it to 720p since switch games are 720p and rgb range set to automatic. Does automatic cause jagged blur too?
I also have black hdmi level set to low and dynamic contrast to medium on tv. My all other consoles seem fine except switch
@@saadsaif821 No worries I'm happy to help.
So first off no automatic is more so for when your tv can detect resolutions. Usually 4k tv's have this ability built in.
The thing is that not all tv's can do this.
On older tv's or 1080p sets you need to set things manually or your results will be very mixed.
Setting your 1080p set to 720p may work but I would not reccomend it.
Although most games run at 720 they also use dynamic resolultion scaling. For example Mario Odyssey runs at 900p dynamically scaled.
Since 720p is what it runs in when undocked you wouldn't be getting any benefit for having it docked.
The text should not be effected by automatic but set it to 1080p and see what happens.
Also make sure you definately change your Rgb setting to Limited. That's very important as it can mess with your colors and black levels.
@@saadsaif821 if you have the black level set at low then definately set your Rgb to limited 🙂
So I just bought a LG27gn800-b monitor for Xbox series s and should I use pcrgb I mean Iv tried it and it’s not really dark but with what u said can’t see much of a difference
????
Would you say color depth on series x using LG G1 oled should still be 24 bits (8 bit) or should i leaveit at 30 bits per sec (10bit) ?
I would say set it to 8 bit and call it a day.
The main reason is because as soon as something that is 10 bit content starts playing then the x box will automatically convert it to 10 bit.
Even more so if you have auto hdr.
Your box will do the work you just need set it up to do so. :)
@@nosystemisperfect9954 cheers mate! Thanks for quick and good reply much appreciated. I do have auto hdr on so i’ll set it to 24 (8 bit) 🙏🏼
Can someone tell me what RGB range is for A Aoc24g2 gaming monitor
Cuz i wanne know what RGB range setting i should choose automatic OR full?
With any computer monitor you should always use full range ☺
Awesome thanks!!
Sony x90j have option of sRGB, should i enable it. If enabled, then for xbox series x, can i used colour PCRGB.
Srgb does not mean "full range rgb".
If you are going to use the PC Rgb setting on the X Box then you have to switch the Rgb setting or also known as "black level" to full or normal or high.
On tv's you should always use the Standard setting on the X Box and black level "low" or rgb "limited".
Srgb doesn't affect what your black levels do and is completely different from proper Rgb settings.
You can enable that for further colors accuracy but you still need to have the black level set to match the X Box.
To recap.
Use "Standard" setting on the X Box and set Black Level to Low or Limited.
If you want to use Full Range at a cost of losing some of the detail then set the following...
Use PC Rgb setting on the X Box and set Black level to Normal or High or "Full Range"
You must make sure black level match on both.
Otherwise your blacks will be crushed and your overall detail won't be as good.
Cheers 🙂
@@nosystemisperfect9954 Means i can turn on srgb at TV, by keeping rgb of xbox at standard. Black level adjust i always kept off on TV.
So if you have a monitor that runs full rgb your should run full rgb on ps5?
Exactly!
Awesome. What if Im using pc mode on a Samsung oled while using game consoles?
Two things you need to know.
First is that PC mode automatically converts all signals to 4:4:4 chroma.
This is good if you are playing in SDR but it doesn’t do any favors to HDR.
You can still should be able set limited range properly on PC Mode but as soon as you change to PC your settings will reset and you will need to change everything back over. You can also enable game profile under PC mode. It’s worth noting however that with Samsung it may require you to change it to full range to match as Samsung does tend to set things very particularly. For example sometimes when you set certain modes Samsung will grey out certain settings forcing you to pick the ones it seems are necessary and not by your choice.
Although PC mode is preferred by many gamers it is not necessary to turn on unless using a PC as it has no real benefit to your console gaming and comes with the slight drawback of not playing nice with videos or hdr properly.
What I do know about PC mode is it turns off any and all processing including up scaling and everything will seem blander and darker.
In my experience PC mode doesn’t add anything but then again I’m basing this on LG and not Samsung.
I am sure though that the answer is very similar.
I hope that helped 🙂
@@nosystemisperfect9954 Wow thank you for such a thorough answer. Im experimenting with pc mode because i get a slightly lower input lag. It feels nice but definitely looks a bit worse or 'off'.
Rgb full.
thank u so match
I can't get full RGB with 4K and HDR with HDMI 2.0, the PS5 just said not enough bandwidth with 2.0. So limited in gaming and full for movies?
I think it depends on the tv.
You need to set a tv to full and the console to full.
HDMI 2.0 will do it but you need a tv that supports it 🙂
Sounds like you trying to push 4k 120hz with a HDMI 2.0
@@nosystemisperfect9954
And ps5 on TV should be set to limited/low.
If you are using monitor it'll be full/normal
4k full RGB, you need a HDMI 2.1
Need help, I can't get RGB at 120 on the ps5, any help would be great
That's a limitation on the PS5 side, not enough bandwidth available to get RGB at 120hz.
Google it, you'll find plenty of info about what I just said
A 120 non otterrai mai RGB ma 422
LG C2 + PS5
Should i use PC mode or game mode?
Game mode 👌
@@nosystemisperfect9954 and I use RGB limited on both?
What would be the advantage of using game mode instead of PC? @@nosystemisperfect9954
@@seandsHi, what configuration are you using?
I think you are wrong, from what I understand is full range is for HD display and limited is for no High Definition display
The rgb range of a tv is not dependent on the resolution or if it is HD.
RGB range is based on how the tv colors are programmed and handled.
As I said in my review you can do full range but it needs to match and you will lose details because TVs are typically programmed with limited range in mind.
On some TVs having full range even gets rid of HDR so the system switches back to limited even though your tv is set to full and causes black crush.
If the tv supports Full range whether it’s hd or not you can use it but there are some drawbacks.
1. Some details will be lost. Not much but if you look for it you will see it.
2. Movies or Netflix doesn’t use full range so you can use need to switch back to limited regardless unless your tv has the “auto feature” and I find that to be unreliable.
3. HDR doesn’t usually like to use full range. If your on a PlayStation it will down convert because it only supports HDR over certain formats.
That being said.
If you set your tv and console to full then you may not notice a difference and if all you do is play games then you won’t care.
However I personally don’t recommend that.
And
If you have a mismatch of Signals your shadows and blacks will be crushed eliminating detail or making things look washed out so be careful.
Of course if you can find documentation or proof that what you’re saying is correct then I will change my stance happily.
After all no system is perfect and that includes my knowledge and brain 🙂
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@@nosystemisperfect9954 If you have an oled tv or not it is still darker using full range, you just need to adjust the colour and brightness setting. If you prefer limited thats your preference but dont force people to do the same since everyone has different TV and prefference.
@@alphaomega1969 I’m not forcing anyone though :)
If you watch the review I say “this is the proper way” but you don’t have to do it this way as it’s your tv :)
If you want to use full then go for it!, I ain’t stopping ya :)
@@nosystemisperfect9954I get better colour and richer graphic overal picture detail with less flicker and smoother experience... That was moughtfull sorry and no offence but I did like your input on the subject and made me learn more about the two. Thanks and happy new year 2024!😇
Limited for tv
Full for monitor pc
I had done a test, and I noticed that when you set limited and activate high fps rates, it takes away that limited color, how do you solve this?
On sony x900h what could be the best combo, because my tv have the option for automatic. I can leave it both automatic?
No if I were you I’d set both to Limited
I have found Automatic doesn’t do what it says it does
The only exception to this rule so far that I’ve found has been on the LG C1 but even then I don’t trust it
Make sure the signals match otherwise your picture won’t look good
Limited with black level low or whatever the combination is called. Since it’s Sony maybe limited and limited ?
but what if you have an auto setting in black level?
doesnt that defeat the purpose of setting rgb range to limited
It depends on the tv but honestly setting things to both Auto on the tv and Auto on the PlayStation or X box I find gives mixed results.
If your tv communicates properly with your device then that's great but it more then often does not despite that being the most ideal.
For example.
On my LG B9 I set my input to PC and turned on Auto and then Auto on my PS5.
What ended up happening was a image that was not as clear.
Went back in and set both to Limited and the image cleared up to the way it was supposed to look.
My tv is a 2019 tv but allot of tv's even after that do the same.
The only TV I have personally heard of getting around it is the LG C1 and CX but since I haven't tested either I can't clarify either way.
You can certainly try setting both to Auto but our tv's are mastered with limited range in mind.
Honestly it's more complicated then that but think of it this way.
Both signals have to match regardless.
And so if you want Full Range rgb then you need to make sure your tv matches that signal.
The problem is that your Blu Ray's or Apps don't use Full Range and so whenever you need to watch a movie you have to switch it back all. Over again which is a pain.
Experiment with your tv though and see what works and doesn't work.
You will be able to tell pretty fast if you use a game such as Guardians OF the Galaxy for a nice Black level.
If the hdr and color looks washed out then the Auto setting isn't working properly. 🙂
@@nosystemisperfect9954 its very hit or miss but i messed around with it and you are right i m set to limited and it looks better no crushed blacks and no washed out colors
also do you use hgig or DTM?
wnted to know thoughts on this
is it accurate ?
@@gamestream2k983 HGIG is technically the more accurate choice however it is much darker in nature.
If you fiddle with both though you will realize that DTM will over brighten the image and end up crushing Shadow detail as a result.
That being said most games don't support HGIG technically
So you make a choice of Image accuracy(hgig) or Punchy bright and saturated (Dtm) .
However if we look at it from a technical perspective....
Your Playstation or X Box will already be doing HDR tone mapping so when you enable DTM your actually tone mapping things twice over.
Your tv tone maps and your console does when DTM is turned on which is more processing the necessary.
When you shut off Tone Mapping the Console of choice will do all the heavy lifting but I find that the resulting image is innacuruate and bad as the console is over working itself.
HGIG will darken the look of the overall screen but it will be the most accurate in terms of highlights and details and it turns off all extra processing and does not double tone map instead enhancing the image of the games that support it.
There is no right answer as it is a personal preference thing 🙂
@@nosystemisperfect9954 thanks for the detailed explanation, what’s better for TVs though auto low or auto high because I’ve noticed a big difference for me auto high gives me crushed blacks where as auto low seems accurate just want the most accurate results so I can just enjoy my games and not sweat it it’s been weeks of testing and recalibrating
@@gamestream2k983 okay so don't use "Auto"
Use Black Level Low and and set RGB to Limited.
The Auto setting on the PS5 makes the rgb full so setting Auto on the PS5 and Low on your tv will mess up the picture. Or if you use am x box set the range to "standard" and the Black level to" low"
Try not to use the Auto setting as I find it doesn't do a good job.
Best to play it safe and set both based on Limited range.
If you want 4:4:4 chroma then ususallly you have set the Input to PC but still set both RBG and Black Level setting accordingly.
In a perfect world auto setting should select the best one but our tech isn't perfect and so we need to make adjustments as necessary to suit our respective tv's 🙂
Ps5 is full range
Does not mean your tv is however.
Setting both to limited is the best possible option unless you want to force it and forego your tv's programming.
Therefore your ability to watch movies on the PS5.
LG CX is full range if you set it to PC Mode for the PS5! So High / Full is the correct way in this case.
I got the Samsung QD-OLED S95B and i game on pc and this is what i use. Black level = low
Nvidia settings RGB on Full and in 10bit
It gives me the next gen picture quality what i expect from an HDMI2.1 input.
What about deep color output
If you are using HDR then deep color should be set always to on or auto.
If your talking about tv's the HDMI port should have deep color enabled for hdr content.
It may be labeled differently depending on the tv. ☺
What if you only use sdr
We have the same tv 😂
Do you loose fps with pc rvb
Rgb full.
How about ycbcr
That depends on the tv…ycbr isn’t something we usually use anymore and it was more so a setting on previous generations of consoles
It’s like a Downscaled version of what we use today in terms of sub sampling.
I think I need to make a video on this topic ha ha .
What happens, if my tv isn't compatible with that?
I have so many questions omg
Shoot the questions to me one at a time and I will attempt to answer them :)
Xbox done have a limited option tho smh
Yes I started they call it “standard” lol
@@nosystemisperfect9954 ya standard is way better lol with it on its far to dark but I am using a monitor 1080p 165 hz
Limited range is 16-236.
Range TV
For samsung tv users: put the HDMI Black level to normal! (not to auto)
Thank you
@@dennisallen3721 The auto setting looks a bit nicer in bright scenes but the Normal setting looks the way it has to look like.
@@NisseHesedingMusic it's meant to be set to low if your using limited range
Finally, someone talking about Samsung TVs. The normal it's the way to go If your seriesX it's on standard NOT on low or Auto. I can confirm This from my experience since I bought a q70b Samsung QLED 55 " last month and I figured out the normal was the right choice since I am able to see faces in dark again in my games and apps like TH-cam Netflix etc. Everyone it's talking about FULL,LIMITED but there is no such thing on QLED Samsung TV s, there is only AUTO ,LOW AND NORMAL and normal it's the way to go if your console it's on standard (recommended) like It should be.
@@akb7086 Not on Samsung TV'S, maybe on OLEds but Samsung Tv s must be on normal in order to not have crushed blacks.I am talking from my own experience.