What a phenomenal breakdown. This is the kind of data that helps the most people in seriously equipping or upgrading their platforms. Thanks a lot Brandon and the T.Rex team.
T.Rex Arms: "We need to find someone who really knows how to beat up on equipment until it fails." Brandon: "Hi, I'm a former Marine." T.Rex Arms: "You're hired."
Excited to see the Holosun video. They deserve a deep dive video and research since they are such a massive part of the optics market today, both for their cheap optics and their more expensive ones. Cheers fellas.
I am as well, I have a holosun 510c red dot and I’ve beat the crap out of this optic for the past 3 years I’ve had it and it’s always pinpoint accurite when I need that 200 yard coyote or something! I know people harp on holosun but I’d like to see a Trex arms durability test done on it. Like I said mine has been literally thrown from a vehicle on a rifle many times and endured falls and impacts . Only bad thing is open emitter but cmon Trex arms, the poors need to be satisfied 😂👍🏻
I obtained a prototype holosun rifle optic in 2020 for review but it never got released to the public because of the coof. Essentially its a 515GT-RD but with a screw-on battery cap instead of the tray that holds the battery with those two tiny torx screws. I broke one on a 6.5lb AR10 from the bolt slamming forward too hard and holosun gave me another prototype replacement. Both serial numbers are under 100. Edit: I've pushed this optic and a HM3X magnifier to 500yds no issues.
It really sucks they are a Chinese company. but at the value and price point you receive the 515gm has become a go to for many of my rifles. I own T2s and they are great. but man at 1/3 the price its so hard to not consider the 515gm.
Quick side note on the Sig's. my Romeo 4T has the quadplex (+) reticle and it has a noticeable blue tint, but I just got the Romeo 4T Pro when it came in off backorder and has no blue tint (circle dot reticle)
Am I the only one who actually misses that reticle? Mine is way clearer to my eye than any 2 MOA dot, bordering on an etched reticle when magnified. Only reason I replaced it with the new 4T Pro was due to the terrible NV performance.
Wow, this is the best optic testing and evaluation I’ve seen it years. Truly a video worth watching for anybody looking for a high quality red dot. I will be recommending this video for anyone looking for a red dot. It really is a blessing that y’all are able and willing to provide this kinda of information to the consumer for FREE. Y’all are doing more for freedom loving Americans than basically anyone in the shooting space. Between the testing, shooting drills, shooting instruction, and printable targets. I truly appreciate it THANK YOU to all of the TRex team.
I was wondering if they would evaluate those or even the micro prisms (which seem like affordable alternatives to ACOGS and the like). Lots of people say the micro prisms hold up well.
For the money they seem good. I have several, mostly the rotary knob ones. I have one original push button version, and the new push button version. The turrets on the rotary and new push button are better than holosons. I have had issues with the holosun turrets. The detent gets screwed up and it becomes hard to turn. The primary arms have more relflection when looking towards the sun than the holosuns I've used.
I've had the SLX MD-25 from Primary Arms for about two years. It's been amazing for me. No issues, would recommend. Probably put out around 2k rounds with it.
Loved this video and really enjoyed Brandon's breakdown: knowledgeable and straight to the point without a ton of fluff but also felt organic and unscripted. I would like to see a red dot breakdown for optics in the $200-$400 range for shooters looking for a solid sight while we save up for a T-2. Keep it up!
I am interested to see as much T&E content as T-Rex Arms has the impetus to make. If Brandon is in charge of developing the protocols, the more the better. Great content.
This guy’s personality and approach brings something that really compliments the other presenters on this channel. A little different but still the same blood. Solid video chaps. Very valuable insight.
Really enjoyed the video and the information for myself and the civilian sector. Greatly appreciated. Thank you. Keep up all the great work. Gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling of how much you guys all do as a company for the armed prepared citizens!
Solid freaking video guys I’m loving this kinda new feel of the channel to see where trex has gone from just being known for holsters is amazing to be a part keep up the excellent work gents and ladies!
With the people asking "why not X Aimpoint/Y Eotech/Holosun," they're explicitly testing non-Aimpoint/Eotech options and are doing a separate video for Holosun. Maybe listen a little more to the video while watching
Saw Garand Thumb have that parallax issue with the Trijicon MRO, and you guys are also talking about it. I guess if I have the issue maybe Trijicon will fix it? Or find a different optic.
Love these types of videos. Helps people like me out a lot that can only buy one of these kinds of optics. And I also really enjoy the amount and type of testing you guys do. I recommend people buy products on your website for those reasons. Keep it up!
Bummer you didn't even give the Meprolight a chance. I have just about every red dot out here and the Meprolight is the one that works best with my eyes. It takes a double A battery for the apocalypse, the reticle is a perfect circle and not some crazy star burst that us folks with astigmatism get with Holosuns and especially EOTechs, the glass us a huge slanted window for amazing field of view and minimal glare, and despite the poly casing its extremely robust in my findings. I have a few, including a gen 1 and its still running perfect.
I run the vortex spark solar on several platforms and have nothing but great things to say. The mount sucks for sure but that’s an easy fix. Clear dot and very reliable in my opinion. I have them on fighting rifles so bullseye precision is not what I’m looking for which makes the 1 minute clicks no biggie. Further, I have had zero issues getting a solid zero.
In a self defense situation, If I had to shoot through a crowd of people to eliminate the threat, and defend myself, I would try to aim with bullseye precision. But if I had to, in a self defense scenario, and the person is hiding behind a busy crowded sidewalk full of people, and my only option is to defend myself, then I would aim through the crowd but only in a self defense situation.
@@EndTheNFAplsMY GOD SOMEONE KNOW PURE BEAUTY. HAVE OVER 40 SCOPES MOST MY DADS A S.E.A.L.. FLAT, STUNNINLY CLEAR. DEATH FOR GLASS IS HORRIBLE TINTS AND HUES. BLUE AND GREEN .NASTY. IF YOU LIKE STIEN. THE BEST CLASS AT 1K. LEOPOLD MK 5 1X 4.5 X40. LOOK FOR YOURSELF. BOUGHT 8 STEIN 1X4X24 4 GREEN 4 RED. YES GREEN TRIANGLE WITH BDC . ONE WORD STELLAR. SELLING ALL BUT THE GREEN. FROMM LEOPOLD. I PAINED 499.00 EACK FOR 8. THE GUY SAID I WILL GIVE THEM ALL FOR 499.00. THEN AGAIN IM A PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHER FOR 55 YEARS. CONSULT FOLKS ON PHOTO GLASS AND SCOPE GLASS. HIT ME UP FOR THE GREEN. I ASSURE YOU WILL FALL IN LUV. THE LEO, CRUSHES TRIGICON 1X 10X 24. FOR 1500 BUCKS. NOT EVEN CLOSE. NO ITCHED RETICAL. BDB. ECT ECT
I've been running an 8T on a unity riser for a while. Got it at a tremendous price and nothing else in that price range remotely compared. It is heavy, but it's taken a lot of abuse and that housing is solid
@@ThePatriotParadox any that do started after vortex became a major competitor to try and keep up. And none offer the unconditional side. You can literally mail a Ziploc of the ashes of your vortex product along with all necessary info and they will send you a new one(yes i know someone who had their truck burn down)
Went through the research and when I found a MRO HD w/ 1/3 mount on sale to my door for just under $500 I jumped on it. It’s great. Low round count so far unfortunately. Very crisp.
I wish you would’ve included the acro p2 in this line-up. I think the p2 is a solid option for every application from pistol mounted to piggybacking a scope and even a main rifle optic
The Vortex Huey's base is where the tracking adjustment happens and it has rough anodizing and gets grit in it and drags coming back to the right unless you keep it clean and even lubed. I had the same problem with my Elcan with a similar adjustment system. Since I greased the contact points on my Huey's base (tracking carriage?) it no longer has a weird inconsistent RH tracking adjustment.
I’m disappointed that you discarded the 403R without a clearer explanation! I own the Eotech and the Aimpoint, but I have several 403Rs on secondary rifles
the fact that he is ex military his opinion would even more valid. something i notice about red dots, that it will be more effective if the optic is smaller. since i feel that you arent suppose to peek into the optic, but you need to treat it like an iron sight. so those red dots with narrow tunnel sight is the most effective in my opinion. all you need to do is place that narrow hole peek/window on the target in the distance. you dont even need to pay too much attention to the red dot indicator itself. and using the hole as an ironsight-like alignment. because with the bigger peek like the EXPS, you would only get distracted by how the red dot could move around (parallax) in the middle of the frame(something most video gamers dont know ). so those narrow smaller pipe/scope/tunnel reddots are the better more effective ones.
So long as we ignore the fact that they have close ties with the Chinese defense industry and are made using modern slavery. We don't always get a choice in the matter - it's impossible to buy a cell phone today that wasn't made in China with parts that come from forced labor, for example. But we definitely get a choice with quality optics. I'm glad T Rex doesn't sell Holosun on their website.
@@acidtalons u know nothing about optics lol. Price doesn’t mean anything. Also holosun doesn’t even have a 150$ optic lol. They are also one of the best ones u can get for the money and even better than a lot of more expensive ones. That’s y he said this is a whole different video in its own. Do ur research. Watch videos on holosun optics compared to other optics and see how good they compare and even beat higher priced optics. Also they have features that more expensive optics don’t have. Such as the shake to wake. The rifle and pistol line of holosun optics are proven reliable and top notch.
@@acidtalonsIs it possible, when considering an optic for duty grade that Holosun just doesn't quiet make it despite being a good optic, yet not meant for rugged duty? These are questions that I am asking myself because I get a 25% discount at swampfox, yet if it's not duty grade and rugged, do I really want a swampfox? I'm still undecided, yet am seeking more information to see if I should just go ahead and spend 1500 on a trijicon vcog for my thousand dollar rifle.
Have you ever tried running a thermal mono and NV mono on your helmet so you can spot heat with the thermal and then sight/laser it with the NV? Might be a dumb idea but its easy to hide from NV in a bush 50 yards away but with thermal they'll easily stick out from 500+ yards away.
I definitely want to see prism scopes next. All 3 of them on the market im genuinely curious to see the outcome, considering the real fight is 2nd place
Awesome video. I had a Romeo4T and 8T at one point and I loved the 8T glass. Very close to an EOTECH for a red dot but I didn't care for the extra weight; on the other hand the 4T had some pretty pronounced blue tint that made passive performance lackluster. I'm glad to hear the 4XT-PRO has seemed to resolve that issue!
Good content as always and if people question things maybe they need to try them themselves, anyways super solid video and yes any content from you guys is good content, just curious if you guys have done a magnifier video or series with these optics as well as far as each company has their own magnifier and the testing behind that 🍻
Just asking bc I’ve considered the sparc solar. It’s the first I’ve heard of a weak base. Everywhere I’ve read on it says the two screws that attach to the receiver make it rather sturdy as well as the helicoils in the body to prevent stripping in the body of the optic itself. Is there something I could be worried about with durability ??
Appreciate these series you’re putting out. I’m currently putting together a BCM MK12, DDM4v7 and machining some ideas I’ve had. Regardless love this content.
Another T.Rex Arms video trashing Holosun for no reason... I know they aren't "mAdE iN aMeRiCa" but coming from someone who carry's a firearm everyday for a big agency and understands the tool and its purpose, i'll take an Holosun everyday. And yes, Trijicon was the industry standard at ONE POINT but we all know they're playing catch up (red dot pistol optics). Give me the best product, no matter if it was made in American or China. The guy on a felony stop at 3 A.M. doesn't care if your optic is made in America...Make sure your dot works when you need it and you make it home to your family. Take care boys.
Holosun innovated pistol red dots, not rifle dots. I own a Holosun HS510C, and all the dots on my handguns are Holosun, but they don't compare to the Eotechs in my opinion when it comes to a rifle. I think they are not a bad option but just aren't there yet.
@@jjcrazylegs7081 You're comparing Michael Jordan to Michael Redd...I understand there rifle optics aren't Close to a T2 or a Eotech and i'm not saying they're in the same league...But what we can't do is make it seem like they're not functional for the AVERAGE American (which is his target market per his website). Holosun is a great option for most. If you have the budget to spend more, PLEASE do so. But don't make it seem like because they're made in China they suck...
They really try and focus on US made products. I have two Holosun optics and they have been awesome. I know more people that have issues with US made optics than Holosun products. I like my US made stuff but when you get down to it, its an aluminum housing that has a little red light inside. Its not exactly a rocket ship we are talking about. I cant stomach paying $1000 for a T2 when a $350 Holosun will do the same thing and be just as reliable (in my experience). I also own EoTech optics as well and they are great, but if it ever dies I am not confident I would spend the extra money on one again.
This is one of the many variables at play: It is really difficult and surprisingly uncomfortable on the eyes, to shoot groups with the dot pushed all the way over in the optics window.
Ive been liking all the Brandon content. Seems like a solid guy
Agreed! I like all the data he presents and he's very to the point
We’ve been truly blessed having Brandon on our team. -Lucas
True
@@TREXARMSare you planning to use any of these red dots other than eotech and aimpoint?
Course he is. He is a representation of the soild team at #trexarms
#ofcourse
No wonder you guys are so popular this content brings a lot a value to the viewer.
Serving the community. That's the goal!
Yup for free can’t beat this type of content this information is great
They have some of if not the best customer service there is. The kydex they use on the newer side car are 2nd to none.
What a phenomenal breakdown. This is the kind of data that helps the most people in seriously equipping or upgrading their platforms. Thanks a lot Brandon and the T.Rex team.
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T.Rex Arms: "We need to find someone who really knows how to beat up on equipment until it fails."
Brandon: "Hi, I'm a former Marine."
T.Rex Arms: "You're hired."
Excited to see the Holosun video. They deserve a deep dive video and research since they are such a massive part of the optics market today, both for their cheap optics and their more expensive ones. Cheers fellas.
I am as well, I have a holosun 510c red dot and I’ve beat the crap out of this optic for the past 3 years I’ve had it and it’s always pinpoint accurite when I need that 200 yard coyote or something! I know people harp on holosun but I’d like to see a Trex arms durability test done on it. Like I said mine has been literally thrown from a vehicle on a rifle many times and endured falls and impacts . Only bad thing is open emitter but cmon Trex arms, the poors need to be satisfied 😂👍🏻
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I obtained a prototype holosun rifle optic in 2020 for review but it never got released to the public because of the coof. Essentially its a 515GT-RD but with a screw-on battery cap instead of the tray that holds the battery with those two tiny torx screws. I broke one on a 6.5lb AR10 from the bolt slamming forward too hard and holosun gave me another prototype replacement. Both serial numbers are under 100.
Edit: I've pushed this optic and a HM3X magnifier to 500yds no issues.
Also looking forward to their opinion since Holosun OEM manufactures many of Vortex/Sig/PA's red dots.
It really sucks they are a Chinese company. but at the value and price point you receive the 515gm has become a go to for many of my rifles. I own T2s and they are great. but man at 1/3 the price its so hard to not consider the 515gm.
Noice. Now do red dot magnifiers! Durability, reliability, pros/cons, etc... :D
I 2nd this. It would be very helpful!
2nd
I third or fourth this idea. Me suspects they're on it already.
I agree
Really good idea
Thanks for the MRO HD Parallax testing, definitely needed that info.
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Quick side note on the Sig's. my Romeo 4T has the quadplex (+) reticle and it has a noticeable blue tint, but I just got the Romeo 4T Pro when it came in off backorder and has no blue tint (circle dot reticle)
Am I the only one who actually misses that reticle? Mine is way clearer to my eye than any 2 MOA dot, bordering on an etched reticle when magnified. Only reason I replaced it with the new 4T Pro was due to the terrible NV performance.
Wow, this is the best optic testing and evaluation I’ve seen it years. Truly a video worth watching for anybody looking for a high quality red dot. I will be recommending this video for anyone looking for a red dot. It really is a blessing that y’all are able and willing to provide this kinda of information to the consumer for FREE. Y’all are doing more for freedom loving Americans than basically anyone in the shooting space. Between the testing, shooting drills, shooting instruction, and printable targets. I truly appreciate it THANK YOU to all of the TRex team.
Leaving out the Holoson 403B was a crime. So many people buy that optic and it’s the main direct budget competitor to the T2.
We are hoping to do a Holosun specific video that covers multiple optics and lasers from them. Only reason it was not addressed in this video.
@@brandon.wombat is such a video still in the pipeline?
@@madspy2462 Yes, but havent started it yet.
Agreed if holison didn't leaking and fiber breaks
The Primary Arms Micro dots are pretty amazing.
I was wondering if they would evaluate those or even the micro prisms (which seem like affordable alternatives to ACOGS and the like). Lots of people say the micro prisms hold up well.
I bought one and I received a detective one. I was pretty upset it was only after like 200 rounds, but they honored a return for it so that was nice.
@@ByrdBallistics has the replacement held up over time?
Mine has held up like a champ
For the money they seem good. I have several, mostly the rotary knob ones. I have one original push button version, and the new push button version. The turrets on the rotary and new push button are better than holosons. I have had issues with the holosun turrets. The detent gets screwed up and it becomes hard to turn. The primary arms have more relflection when looking towards the sun than the holosuns I've used.
Prism optics next, please! Been looking at the Primary Arms SLx 3x micro prism optic, and I'm curious if it's as durable as it seems.
I've had the SLX MD-25 from Primary Arms for about two years. It's been amazing for me. No issues, would recommend. Probably put out around 2k rounds with it.
SLX 3x micro is pretty amazing.
Tberes other videos on this check thise out a d you wont be waiting
I have the SLx 1, and it's a tank. Quality of optics? I haven't a clue. My eyes are old. LOL
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Late? It's only 10, the nights just begun my friend.
@@RAMZAVFXthe night is dark and full of terrors… bring your nods.
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@@themeltingpoint3867how you get ak 102 and a can out there? Very cool!
Dessert anyone
Loved this video and really enjoyed Brandon's breakdown: knowledgeable and straight to the point without a ton of fluff but also felt organic and unscripted. I would like to see a red dot breakdown for optics in the $200-$400 range for shooters looking for a solid sight while we save up for a T-2. Keep it up!
403r did aswell as the aim point thats why it got thrown out since they don't sell it.
Would love to see these white papers released to get a comprehensive read on classes of products
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I don’t get Lucas’s biases against Holosun. Which in turn feels like a T Rex bias. Just seems unwarranted. IMO
Agreed!
Just wait till you see what we have planned
I do have an AEMS. It's been good to me but Lucas shoots several thousands of rounds more than me so I am willing to hear him out.
Errrr America the best errr (even tho all those optics have Chinese parts)
@@TREXARMSI’m waiting on this video
Good to know everything on the website is tested and has a seal of approval from you guys.
I am interested to see as much T&E content as T-Rex Arms has the impetus to make.
If Brandon is in charge of developing the protocols, the more the better.
Great content.
i think brandon is such a great no-nonsense speaker and he really seems to know his stuff. really enjoyed the very informative content!
My favorites are still the holosun 512 on a unity riser for a short gun and the holosun aems if I want to use a magnifier.
AEMS is a sleeper. It really surprised me under NODS
Great Video, lots of work went into it. I'd love to see your Holosun review video
Wish the EOTECH parallax testing was shown
agreed however it's my understanding the eotech has the least amount of paralax.
This guy’s personality and approach brings something that really compliments the other presenters on this channel. A little different but still the same blood. Solid video chaps. Very valuable insight.
Sound sus af bruh
Really enjoyed the video and the information for myself and the civilian sector. Greatly appreciated. Thank you. Keep up all the great work. Gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling of how much you guys all do as a company for the armed prepared citizens!
Solid freaking video guys I’m loving this kinda new feel of the channel to see where trex has gone from just being known for holsters is amazing to be a part keep up the excellent work gents and ladies!
Maybe a prism/micro-prism version? Primary Arms, Paragon, Swampfox, etc.
If it's not something you're going to bet your life on, then it doesn't matter. If so, ACOG or Elcan
PA prism is LEGIT. My buddy who owns all the most Gucci sights was so mad to admit he liked my 2.5x prism 😂
@@carsonhunt4642 I second this. I have the PA 3x Micro and love it. I wear bifocals and still shoot this scope with no problems.
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You may be confusing reticles with prism quality. PA does have the best reticles but drop it on some concrete and tell me if you still like it.
kinda wish you would have done the top end Holosun AEMS unit
For us newer shooters, it would have been helpful to go over what's so great about the EOTech and Aimpoint.
Can't wait for the Holosun vid. 😅
I ❤️ all of mine. 🤣
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This is great stuff.
Extremely informative.
I don’t know anywhere else someone can go to get side by side unbiased(as possible ) info
With the people asking "why not X Aimpoint/Y Eotech/Holosun," they're explicitly testing non-Aimpoint/Eotech options and are doing a separate video for Holosun. Maybe listen a little more to the video while watching
The Holosun evaluation should include the 500 series red dots also.
Then buy that trash
Saw Garand Thumb have that parallax issue with the Trijicon MRO, and you guys are also talking about it. I guess if I have the issue maybe Trijicon will fix it? Or find a different optic.
Love these types of videos. Helps people like me out a lot that can only buy one of these kinds of optics. And I also really enjoy the amount and type of testing you guys do. I recommend people buy products on your website for those reasons. Keep it up!
Bummer you didn't even give the Meprolight a chance. I have just about every red dot out here and the Meprolight is the one that works best with my eyes. It takes a double A battery for the apocalypse, the reticle is a perfect circle and not some crazy star burst that us folks with astigmatism get with Holosuns and especially EOTechs, the glass us a huge slanted window for amazing field of view and minimal glare, and despite the poly casing its extremely robust in my findings. I have a few, including a gen 1 and its still running perfect.
I run the vortex spark solar on several platforms and have nothing but great things to say. The mount sucks for sure but that’s an easy fix. Clear dot and very reliable in my opinion. I have them on fighting rifles so bullseye precision is not what I’m looking for which makes the 1 minute clicks no biggie. Further, I have had zero issues getting a solid zero.
In a self defense situation, If I had to shoot through a crowd of people to eliminate the threat, and defend myself, I would try to aim with bullseye precision. But if I had to, in a self defense scenario, and the person is hiding behind a busy crowded sidewalk full of people, and my only option is to defend myself, then I would aim through the crowd but only in a self defense situation.
Is the white paper available on the website?
The holosun is the main talking point in the comments and it wasn't even reviewed.
Nice work Brandon! I’ve had my eye on the Holosuns as of late so I’ll keep my eye open for that video before I make any new purchases!
I would like to see you guys review primary arms optics
The 4x optics next like Sig battle sights, Elcan, ACOG and prism sights next would be cool, or what I would consider good general purpose optics.
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@@EndTheNFAplsMY GOD SOMEONE KNOW PURE BEAUTY. HAVE OVER 40 SCOPES MOST MY DADS A S.E.A.L.. FLAT, STUNNINLY CLEAR. DEATH FOR GLASS IS HORRIBLE TINTS AND HUES. BLUE AND GREEN .NASTY. IF YOU LIKE STIEN. THE BEST CLASS AT 1K. LEOPOLD MK 5 1X 4.5 X40. LOOK FOR YOURSELF. BOUGHT 8 STEIN 1X4X24 4 GREEN 4 RED. YES GREEN TRIANGLE WITH BDC . ONE WORD STELLAR. SELLING ALL BUT THE GREEN. FROMM LEOPOLD. I PAINED 499.00 EACK FOR 8. THE GUY SAID I WILL GIVE THEM ALL FOR 499.00.
THEN AGAIN IM A PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHER FOR 55 YEARS. CONSULT FOLKS ON PHOTO GLASS AND SCOPE GLASS. HIT ME UP FOR THE GREEN. I ASSURE YOU WILL FALL IN LUV. THE LEO, CRUSHES TRIGICON 1X 10X 24. FOR 1500 BUCKS.
NOT EVEN CLOSE. NO ITCHED RETICAL. BDB. ECT ECT
I've been running an 8T on a unity riser for a while. Got it at a tremendous price and nothing else in that price range remotely compared. It is heavy, but it's taken a lot of abuse and that housing is solid
Which Unity mount for 8T?
Quality video guys. Thank you for being honest and objective without adding fluff.
One thing to remember and probably would have been worth mentioning is vortex's unconditional lifetime warranty.
doesn't matter if it breaks when you need it. taurus also have an excellent warranty, couldn't convince me to carry one.
@@EvanDickersonM81cheap tho
Yes that is a plus, but most all do that don't they? Sucks they went up 100 bucks after Trex review
@@ThePatriotParadox any that do started after vortex became a major competitor to try and keep up. And none offer the unconditional side. You can literally mail a Ziploc of the ashes of your vortex product along with all necessary info and they will send you a new one(yes i know someone who had their truck burn down)
@@LeakyJoosbox yeah the no questions life time is awesome
I like the concise breakdown of testing and the transparency in possible errors. Great job.
I'm super interested in the outcome of Holosun test. Shame that you didn't give it 20 seconds of explanation.
Right? And he still doesn’t have a video out about it
Here to support this Marine, after seeing the podcast you guys just did with him
Trex video at 10pm? Why the hell not.
Went through the research and when I found a MRO HD w/ 1/3 mount on sale to my door for just under $500 I jumped on it. It’s great. Low round count so far unfortunately. Very crisp.
I'd like more Brandon content on this channel ngl. (Not replacing lucas ofc)
There will be more.
Lets go Brandon! Haha yea I like Brandon. Seems like a good overall guy.
I wish you would’ve included the acro p2 in this line-up. I think the p2 is a solid option for every application from pistol mounted to piggybacking a scope and even a main rifle optic
Ya he literally said they werent including aimpoints or eotechs in this video
Optics are so damn hard to pick and can get expensive. Everyone can say they have regrets about one optic or another. This was an awesome video.
Nobody regrets a T2 ;)
@@arrowhead5217*laughs with my 1/4 price holosun*
I have no Eotech EXPS3 regrets
@@arrowhead5217I did. Looked like a big red comma. The circle dot reticles work better with my eyes so I went with the 4T.
@@anotherguy8093 Your eyes are broken not the dot
The Vortex Huey's base is where the tracking adjustment happens and it has rough anodizing and gets grit in it and drags coming back to the right unless you keep it clean and even lubed. I had the same problem with my Elcan with a similar adjustment system. Since I greased the contact points on my Huey's base (tracking carriage?) it no longer has a weird inconsistent RH tracking adjustment.
I’m disappointed that you discarded the 403R without a clearer explanation! I own the Eotech and the Aimpoint, but I have several 403Rs on secondary rifles
Same here.....but they are the 503's.
I like them.
We are hoping to do a Holosun specific video that covers multiple optics and lasers from them. Only reason it was not addressed in this video.
@@brandon.wombatwhen do you think that will happen?
Not sure yet.@@The11eleven
Would love to see similar tests like this for other optics!
Hey can you guys do a run down on prism and fiber optics?
the fact that he is ex military his opinion would even more valid. something i notice about red dots, that it will be more effective if the optic is smaller. since i feel that you arent suppose to peek into the optic, but you need to treat it like an iron sight. so those red dots with narrow tunnel sight is the most effective in my opinion. all you need to do is place that narrow hole peek/window on the target in the distance. you dont even need to pay too much attention to the red dot indicator itself. and using the hole as an ironsight-like alignment. because with the bigger peek like the EXPS, you would only get distracted by how the red dot could move around (parallax) in the middle of the frame(something most video gamers dont know ). so those narrow smaller pipe/scope/tunnel reddots are the better more effective ones.
Holosun makes great optics.
So long as we ignore the fact that they have close ties with the Chinese defense industry and are made using modern slavery. We don't always get a choice in the matter - it's impossible to buy a cell phone today that wasn't made in China with parts that come from forced labor, for example. But we definitely get a choice with quality optics. I'm glad T Rex doesn't sell Holosun on their website.
Must be junk, I mean their $150 optic was no good compared to $700 optics.
@@acidtalons u know nothing about optics lol. Price doesn’t mean anything. Also holosun doesn’t even have a 150$ optic lol. They are also one of the best ones u can get for the money and even better than a lot of more expensive ones. That’s y he said this is a whole different video in its own. Do ur research. Watch videos on holosun optics compared to other optics and see how good they compare and even beat higher priced optics. Also they have features that more expensive optics don’t have. Such as the shake to wake. The rifle and pistol line of holosun optics are proven reliable and top notch.
@@Wizop I think Holosuns are good, I suspect T-rex's take will be they are bad since he unceremoniously chucked it out of the review.
@@acidtalonsIs it possible, when considering an optic for duty grade that Holosun just doesn't quiet make it despite being a good optic, yet not meant for rugged duty?
These are questions that I am asking myself because I get a 25% discount at swampfox, yet if it's not duty grade and rugged, do I really want a swampfox? I'm still undecided, yet am seeking more information to see if I should just go ahead and spend 1500 on a trijicon vcog for my thousand dollar rifle.
I appreciate you guys being thorough.
Brandon is great. More Brandon content is more than welcome
Great content. Brandon gives an informative breakdown to help you make a solid decision on optic choice.
good job Brandon. do more of these.
When I initially saw the run and gun montage, I thought, wow, Lucas really has been deadlifting. Turns out it was Brandon.
Love to see this on some 1-6's or 1-8 scopes!
Have you ever tried running a thermal mono and NV mono on your helmet so you can spot heat with the thermal and then sight/laser it with the NV?
Might be a dumb idea but its easy to hide from NV in a bush 50 yards away but with thermal they'll easily stick out from 500+ yards away.
Now for the 515 and the aems
Excellent video, one of the best red dots videos Ive seen. Well done Brandon.
I definitely want to see prism scopes next. All 3 of them on the market im genuinely curious to see the outcome, considering the real fight is 2nd place
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Awesome video. I had a Romeo4T and 8T at one point and I loved the 8T glass. Very close to an EOTECH for a red dot but I didn't care for the extra weight; on the other hand the 4T had some pretty pronounced blue tint that made passive performance lackluster. I'm glad to hear the 4XT-PRO has seemed to resolve that issue!
Enjoyed the deep nerd dive. Keep it goin Brandon!
Excellent content and great job of using actual data to determine a conclusion. Awesome video
Interesting that the Holosun 515gm wasn’t included since it is essentially a T2 clone.
Holosuns get a different video and discussion points.
Cant wait for the Holosun reviews.
@@TREXARMS Does their relation to the Chinese defense industry factor into those discussion points?
I used EOTech in the past. Just picked up two SIG Romeo 8Ts. Pretty excited to leave the EOTech for a new toy.
Good content as always and if people question things maybe they need to try them themselves, anyways super solid video and yes any content from you guys is good content, just curious if you guys have done a magnifier video or series with these optics as well as far as each company has their own magnifier and the testing behind that 🍻
Please what model Vortex Sparc are you referring to??
Just asking bc I’ve considered the sparc solar. It’s the first I’ve heard of a weak base. Everywhere I’ve read on it says the two screws that attach to the receiver make it rather sturdy as well as the helicoils in the body to prevent stripping in the body of the optic itself. Is there something I could be worried about with durability ??
@@sargentjdude96I’m also curious
Can you imagine paying full price to only wear half the glove?
Great example
Or one knee pad.
Excellent breakdown. I appreciate the careful approach to the testing and good presentation of the results. Thanks for sharing this valuable work.😊
Appreciate these series you’re putting out. I’m currently putting together a BCM MK12, DDM4v7 and machining some ideas I’ve had. Regardless love this content.
Looking forward to the Holosun video.
YAY! I GET TO LEARN ABOUT OPTICS NOW!!
Another T.Rex Arms video trashing Holosun for no reason... I know they aren't "mAdE iN aMeRiCa" but coming from someone who carry's a firearm everyday for a big agency and understands the tool and its purpose, i'll take an Holosun everyday. And yes, Trijicon was the industry standard at ONE POINT but we all know they're playing catch up (red dot pistol optics). Give me the best product, no matter if it was made in American or China. The guy on a felony stop at 3 A.M. doesn't care if your optic is made in America...Make sure your dot works when you need it and you make it home to your family.
Take care boys.
Holosun is slept on
Holosun innovated pistol red dots, not rifle dots. I own a Holosun HS510C, and all the dots on my handguns are Holosun, but they don't compare to the Eotechs in my opinion when it comes to a rifle. I think they are not a bad option but just aren't there yet.
@@jjcrazylegs7081 You're comparing Michael Jordan to Michael Redd...I understand there rifle optics aren't Close to a T2 or a Eotech and i'm not saying they're in the same league...But what we can't do is make it seem like they're not functional for the AVERAGE American (which is his target market per his website). Holosun is a great option for most. If you have the budget to spend more, PLEASE do so. But don't make it seem like because they're made in China they suck...
Another amazing and informative video, thank you so much for your work and bring more testing videos with Brandon!
Let's go Brandon! Sorry I couldn't resist. LOL
Excellent video from guys I trust.
Man! I was really looking forward to hearing about Holosun!
They really try and focus on US made products. I have two Holosun optics and they have been awesome. I know more people that have issues with US made optics than Holosun products. I like my US made stuff but when you get down to it, its an aluminum housing that has a little red light inside. Its not exactly a rocket ship we are talking about. I cant stomach paying $1000 for a T2 when a $350 Holosun will do the same thing and be just as reliable (in my experience). I also own EoTech optics as well and they are great, but if it ever dies I am not confident I would spend the extra money on one again.
Love this type of nerdy stuff. Y’all do some great T&E so we don’t have to. Much love from Texas!
Excellent content. Comprehensive. Thanks and keep more of this coming if you can.
Color Grading is great! Either someone is bettering themselves or someone new is on the team! Great job!
Thanks and Blessings Brandon! This couldn't have come at a better time for me as this will really help me to choose wisely.
what did I win?@T.REX-ARMS
@@tmaddrummer Nothing, it's just a scam bot. Just report it.
@@RonJeremy514 thank you 🙏 I appreciate it! I did report “IT”
I love red dots 🔴
This is good stuff guys. Brandon squared me away in Jacksonville a year or so ago with some BROS installs. Keep this type of stuff coming.
Finally! An optics comparison worthy of my time!
Love the Brandon content, and my MRO HD has been fantastic for me
Cali strong. Amazon won’t even ship some of those to my house. 😂😂😂
Thanks for this one, really wanted to hear more information on optics. Good work guys
Absolutely hilarious he threw the holosun In the Beginning.😂
Let’s see that Holosun video
This was a great video. Really enjoyed the way each optic was presented and the pros and cons that were mentioned for each one. Big thanks!
Thank you for the video. The groups for the T2 look a bit wide for 25 yards on a bench. Confused by that.
This is one of the many variables at play: It is really difficult and surprisingly uncomfortable on the eyes, to shoot groups with the dot pushed all the way over in the optics window.
I love my Huey Gen 2 and glad to see it getting more noticed
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