Why Did Tina Turner Stay With Ike Turner For So Long | Did He Ever Love Her?
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- What's Love Got to Do with It is a 1993 American biographical film based on the life of American singer-songwriter Tina Turner. Directed by Brian Gibson and written by Kate Lanier, based on Tina's 1986 autobiography I, Tina, it stars Angela Bassett as Tina and Laurence Fishburne as her abusive husband Ike Turner.
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Tina stayed with Ike for so long because she witnessed unhealthy relationships in her childhood & it was the norm & Ike didn’t love her. ❤❤❤
I think childhood trauma (abandonment), familial/societal pressures, & not having a solid support system were the reasons she stayed so long.
Agreed ❤
I honestly can see Whitney doing a good job as Tina Turner. Now looking back at it, Whitney did kinda favor Tina Turner’s flamboyant attitude in a way. Whitney had the dramatic laugh, the calm and breathy tone in her voice just like Tina. Also, the voice, Whitney definitely could’ve pulled it off without the lipsync. But, Angela Bassett was the best choice especially because she’s an actual actress.
If Robert Townsend directed this film, it would’ve been close to the book, “I, Tina”.
Mario Van Peebles was supposed to direct and he wanted to be play Ike as well.
Ruth Carter styling Angela Bassett and Tina Turner herself doing Angela’s hair and makeup and was everything ❤️❤️❤️.
Fun fact: Angela Bassett lip synched Tina Turner’s songs while Laurence Fishburne actually sang using his real voice.
People have to recognize leaving an abusive relationship takes seven tries. You also have to take in account the childhood Tina Turner had. Tina recalled seeing the abuse her mother suffered from her father and to put the icing on the cake, Tina’s mother was emotionally unavailable to her. She wanted Tina to stay with Ike not knowing how horrible a person he was to her daughter and that he had money. There are lots of factors of why people (women) stay in abusive relationships; whether it’s for the kids, the fear of being lonely, upsetting their partner, financial problems etc.
This is the same thing that happened with John Depp and Amber herd. His mother was very physically abusive to her children as a result he became a very passive person and very emotionally vulnerable. He also became very emotional attached to people and was extremely kind to point Of giving away his wealth to help out people who he had just meant to but really needed help. He would kept giving to them until they said they were good. He's very lucky the people he chose to help didnt take advantage but recognized the unconditional good intentions of a truly kind person (it's how he gained a lot of friemd who want the famous.)
So here we have Is a very empathetic and giving person whose emotionally vulnerable and used to severely abusive women.
Then you have Amber who had abused female partners in her past (yet never male which I find interesting) Is known to be a very snobby and egotistical person whose own mother and sister were scared of her because of violent behavior. She of course pounced on a name she saw was emotionally vulnerable and when she realized that he would never physically harm her back she became abusive to the point of cutting off his finger at one point ( Which he then lied about to a doctor who caught him out in attempt to protect her by saying that there was no way that that wasn't done by another person. At which point Johnny evoked the patient-doctor confidence law which is way more strict with PF so The doctor couldn't contact authorities)
When he was explaining one of the abuse of situation where she was literally hitting him in the face multiple time while following him from room to room. At one point he stopped and asked her was she done she reponded by hitting him in the face again. He then tried to go on the bathroom Amber cried out like her foot that she had stuck in the door had been hit Despite the fact that this woman had been hitting him primarily in the face for the past hour he still opened the door to check on her then tended to her supposedly bruised foot why his face was bleeding.
His sister said he used to do this with Their mother go from room to rom to escape her and when he got truly terrified he would go in the bathroom and lock the door to hide from their mother.
I feel it's also important to note that He was the one who asked for a divorce. She then tried the sympathy trick of trick saying how sorry she was, he didn't take her back. So she tries to get one of her friends to play along a stage assault by him. She said she had left something at their primary house and he was like sure you can come get it. His bodyguard had beg him not to go along. Johnny finally agreed to allow him to come but to stay outside and when he got there her friend ran in screaming "stop Johnny get off of her" with a phone audio recording. When security ran in and saw the situation he simply said "boss lets just leave" and stood in of Johnny as he walked by her. She and her were both shocked that he had actually brought somebody with him.
That one simple instance of bringing another person along made her realize she could get Johnny alone to neither hurt him or blackmail him. She Was also insulted and her ego was hurt because she felt embarrassed she got caught so to try to do the same to him she demanded that her lawyer get her some money and some of their assets (which Johnny freely gave Even though there was no legal obligation for him too).
Her ego was still hurt that he left her embarrassed her and that she wasn't getting a rise out of him she falsely accused him of physical abuse and posted pics of Black and blue bruises on her face. Which if severe as they appeared should have swollen her eye shut and nose should have also been swollen but it was just black and blue. The very next day the bruises disappeared and never appeared again. she didn't even have the decity to ask her makeup artists reapply the makeup.
There is a whole checklist of things that abusers do to intimidate their victims Amber heard checked off every single one during Court trials.
There are psychologists who have also reviewed them doing their court trials and every single one of them believes Johnny story about his finger getting cut off. His demeanor Body language and the fact that he told the story the exact same way every single time tells every professional that he was remembering a truly traumatic experience. Every single time he's had to repeat this story and Amber is seen smriking.
while the only thing that can be proven of John is that he called her names mostly "flabby ass" and it was in response to her. Verbal abuse is definitely a real thing but this woman literally cut off this man's finger, took a Shit on their bed because he chose to stay At his body guard's homr after a phone argument knowing there would be abuse when he got home, she also exhibited psychopathic behavior doing a court trial about her supposed abuse and And in her "I'm so sorry baby" text messages when Johnny specifically brought up the abuse she gas lit him knowing it would be proof. she was only sorry for "any harm she caused him" or any pain he suffered in thei marriage(classic abuser language)"
I doubt anyone to read this far but if you do I feel it's important to note that Johnny only counter sued her when people believed her lawsuit against him nothing else that she did made him admit to Her abusing him he defended and protected her numerous times.
He even said it was the fact that people believe he could do something that he knows from personal experience is a horrific thing to inflict on somebody else. I also think it's important to remember that it was his mother who did this to him. A mother who he took care of when she became Destitute even though he had been avoiding all contact with her from the time he Left home at 16. Still until the time she died Johnny take care of her and was the only one of his siblings to mourn her death. You may be thinking well of course it's his mom regardless of what she did but the rest of her children thought he was crazy for that because of the fact that she never changed nor apologize she didn't have in it her she just truly hated her kids even on her death bed but Johnny still cared for her.
According to his siblings Johnny received the most severe abuse because he reminded her of their father which says a lot because with them she abused them So severely that they don't truly associate her with being their mother.
I think Tina liked Angela Bassett's performance and thought she did an amazing job (which she did) but just like Ike didn't like the way he was portrayed in this movie, Tina didn't like the way she was portrayed either. Tina never felt like a victim and was never this super soft spoken little weak woman, Tina could hold her own and defend herself. She also wished the movie had been more truthful and followed closer to her autobiography....but it's hard to condense an entire person's life into a two our movie and you can't take away from Angela Bassett and Lawrence Fishburne's performance they both deserved academy awards....
The movie didn't portray her as soft spoken or weak. It's not fair to say abuse victims are either. She said the movie was pretty accurate except for the rape scene. As for the book, the movie would've been too violent if it had stuck to the book
@@Butterfly22593 with all due respect she never said that the movie was accurate to her life. She always said, when asked about the movie in interviews, that she wishes it could've been more truthful. Her 1986 autobiography, I Tina, really tells the true story. But I think Tina's biggest gripe with the movie was the way she was written and portrayed, in other words it wasn't accurate to how Tina Turner was in real life. They made her character too submissive when in real life Tina wasn't like that at all. They made both the Ike and Tina characters too one dimensional.
Laurence Fishburne was abusive in his first marriage and had to go to therapy. He turned down the role five times.
The diner scene where Ike slapped Vanessa Bell Calloway's character Jackie. The slap was real and Vanessa's reaction wasn't 100% acting. She was mad as hell. She said it in her Unsung Hollywood episode.
Wow...I didn't know that. VBC better than me. LC would've been severely hurt hitting me for real. So hurt he wasn't in pain...nahmean?
It was the accuracy of the claps during the “Let it Shine” sang along!
The funniest scene to me was the “Hey hey this ain’t flour, now get the F*CK out!” That scene always had me rolling. I’m with about the rape scene.😡. I love your reviews. I pray for your continued success.
River Deep Mountain High flopped because the radio stations didn’t know where to place it. “It was too white or not black enough.” According to the documentary on Max.
"Whats Love Got to Do with It", "Friday" and "Boyz in the Hood" have to be the most quoted black movies
Great editing this video. 34:16 the twerking with the Buddhist chanting!😱😍
I hadn't forget how traumatizing this movie was but i forgot how traumatizing this movie was.
When i think of virtuoso performance i always think of Angela in this movie.
The scene in the car where she fight back and kinda breaks the spell is one of the best moments ever.
This movie would have been SO MUCH BETTER if it was true to the book and gave more insight into Ike's character. The fact that neither Tina nor Ike liked the movie is proof that it was just a chance for Hollywood to capitalize on a black woman's trauma.....hence the comedic vibe of the film.
Sometimes abandonment and low self esteem they also had a band together 🎉
❤Tina Turner only one simply the BEST #inspirational #rip #RocknRollgoddess and Angela MF legend love this Queen she deserves the Oscar from roles she plays
Can we the people give Angela Bassett an award? Like a People's Choice Award?
Tina Turner stayed with Ike for so long because Ike owned the brand name Tina Turner
As soon as I saw the thumbnail for Miss Tina, I knew it was gonna be on & poppin! ❤
Do basically neither Tina nor Ike wanted anything to do with this movie? So why did it ever get made??
So Hollywood could exploit them for money?
you gave us them pipes, Queen!! you betta sing with that whole stomach - i love love that you rap, sing, riff and intonate in your content ; amazing job again!!
I saw her book at the library, and checked it out and it was eye-opening. Very different from the book, but now I want to read Ike's book
she was abandoned by her mother. she had abandonment issues
Your voice range is insane ❤❤❤
I"m from BK Bed Stuy to be exact and back in the day, my neighbor never liked Lawrence Fishbourne.
She would always call him Larry, even after he blew up.
When ever he cam around she would come outside and stand on the stoop saying: oh look at L A R R Y crawling back to the hood etc.
ahhh good times
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Gift and a Curse that this film is quotable.
This doesn’t have anything to do with it but I will like keke Palmer to do Angela Bassett bio
The singing and the review were absolutely great! 👏👏👏
I absolutely love your reviews, especially if it's one of my favorite movies. I repeat them very often. They keep me in stitches. Especially the Temptations.
TH-cam notified me on NOTHING. I could've been at least listening to the premiere at work 😭🤦♀️
I always come back to listen to this review. One of my favorites.
I love me some Tina Turner!🥰
rest in power ❤ a tru goddess ❤
Ugh!!
What’s love
got to do wit it
One of the BEST
But yes I do see how this movie could be hating and have inaccuracies / insensitive moments
R.I.P 🙏🏾 🌙
Them shoulders were putting in overtime !
Another great review!! when I tell you, your references are always on point!!! I think it and you say it like wow! “You da reason I can’t get off the f-n’ dime” FRANKIE! Okayyyy I am here for it 🙌🏾 Keep doing what you do girl ❤!!
Thank you ❤️🤣
Your reviews give me life!!!!💙💙💙
I did watch What's Love Got To Do With It and wow...This one was amazing and depressing at the same time with this movie, it was depressing because of what happened to Tina in the film while it was amazing because of Angela Bassett's performance as Tina and I'm not forgetting about Laurence Fishburne's role as Ike he was good too but Bassett was great in this movie and she was in great shape for the role and I can understand the argument for Angela to win the Oscar but if she sang for real then I believe that she would have won but that's just my opinion. Some may like this one others may not but I enjoyed it a lot.
Me: 🎶Twist It! Shake it shake it shake it shake it baby🎶
You: 🎤 come on background
😩😩 *girl I'm ahead of you*
🎶"Riiiiverdeeeeep, mountain highhhh ahh yeahhh yeah"🎶
*If it was a challenge for me to make it through this movie without singing I would lose*
I enjoy SO MUCH when you sing 🥰🥰. Ugh. I just love every detail you put into these videos.
Tyra you have to do anything for Selena's
I’m Blue is Ike and Tina‘a best song to me
We Don’t Need Another Hero is my favorite solo song by Tina
16:59 this meme😩😩. Now I don't know what I'm more intrigued by, the fact that someone thought to create this meme or how you found it😩
You better sang mama!!!😊❤❤❤❤
I always thought Tina was strong (even though I now hate the strong black women trope). She was constantly trying to leave.
Did you read her former assistants book? Omg, the tea!
❤❤❤ loved this!
I missed the premiere but imma drop some ❤❤❤ in the comments
I enjoyed being your Ikette 💃🏾 this movie has so many good songs
You weren’t the only one!🎤
I love your videos sis, you are really funny asf 😂 keep going ❤
❤❤❤❤❤ loved acting in this movie its definitely one i quote quite often!
Bet missed the Mark not getting her to do the tribute
That would’ve been iconic
She not a singer but from what I heard…it wasn’t giving
Yes I Can Laugh My Ass Off Cause The Movie Was A Lie So Was The Marrige ..Duh .. They Lied To Tue World Thier Marrige Wasn't A Marrige It Was A Business Arrangement POINT BLANK PERIOD 💯💯💯💯💯
Great review!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hi. What song is that in the intro? I’m digging that!
So we not gon talk about Tina pulling a gun on Randy Jackson?
Wait, what? 😮😮😮
@@delisamccoy6500 Tina Turner was supposedly comforting Randy's wife over their martial problems when Randy came over and forced his way in leading Tina to put out her pistol. It was said Randy believed the women with having an affair together
It was a shot gun
@@whoelse1111she was not his wife. She was his girlfriend.
28:49 Fascinating how you found humor in Anna Mae being recaptured by her abuser. 😐
There has been unsolicited humor found within this movie for years by many its not all that fascinating
So we ain’t going to acknowledge how fine Lawrence Fishborne was
Not Jumpsuit!!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂
Get out my face, Jumpsuit takes me out every time.
Have you reviewed Vampire in Brooklyn
Yes she did.
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"Premieres in 2 days". That sounds like forever. 🫤
So y’all really think Tina wasn’t doing blow and cheating on Ike as well? Ok
According to Ike’s book, she never did coke, but would drink whenever she wanted to party with Ike.
If she was then her lovers have been extremely tight lipped about it
@@KnowledgeSeeker78491Beyonces side pieces have never come forward either. However, I think it’s naive to think Beyoncé and Tina Turner were just staying home crying getter cheated on
@@randomthoughtreviews3101 It's really not... Everyone isn't a cheater. I know bottom of the barrel people don't seem to understand this FACT, but it is a fact
@@KnowledgeSeeker78491 lol and how is that a fact exactly?
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🪦 RIP Ike Turner and Anne Mae Bullock b.k.a. Tina Turner
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7:01. Are you sure Tina didn't want anything to do with this film? I've seen clips of her and Angela practicing different things on set.
She loved Angela, she just didn't like the changes to her story.
ANGELA BASSETT WAS ROBBED...TWICE! WTF OSCARS????
I always thought it was interesting the way White men show up on this movie. They are always saviors. We don’t really see how she did it her comeback journey is pretty much reduced to to being due to the white manager who starts working with her in the end. This film is Black pop culture legend but I wonder what this story would have been like in the hands of a Black woman director more sensitive to her trauma.
You ain't Donna Summer lie took me out.
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