Great video! I actually had that exact bottle of Verdignan earlier this year and enjoyed it after two hours of decanting. It shook off the funkiness. Not at its peak, but didn't feel dead either. For $30, I found it worth it.
rnj: perhaps I just got a bad bottle but I tried without decanting and then after a few hours and didn't improve. In any event, I don't think it is a long term cellar wine. Cheers!
Definitely a great topic and helpful in providing the specifics on how a past-prime wine tastes.👏👏 Fortunately in my relatively brief wine journey, I've had one wine such wine, which was a value wine accelerated in age due to poor storage (a hot summer without the A/C running to keep the room reasonably cool).
mickeylee: I am sure you will have others along your journey. I think many times people age their wines too long and think the wine itself is not to their liking when in fact, we are asking the wine to do something it can't do. Cheers!
Interesting video and a topic that isn't discussed nearly enough. There's lots of video content out there of people drinking 100+yr old bottles and talking about how amazing it is. Well, I bet those wines are totally over the hill in most circumstances. Also, I love your "celery" descriptor. I've found it difficult to describe the flavor of wine that is just too old for its own good, usually opting for "too old wine flavor" as a description. But I'll try thinking of celery next time I have a bottle that is passed its prime and see what I think!
Many thanks for your insights. I totally concur regarding drinking wine past their prime, the more you collect the higher the risk thereof. It is shocking how much less one drinks as one ages, quite unfair :). I’d also like to offer you my condolences for having to deal with BC Liquor Stores and BC wine tax, 100%. As a European used to dumb socialist ideas from politicians even we haven’t gotten to 100% wine tax, yet.
A well-known fact, but let me call it again. Wine tasting is often very personal, which we appreciate and what not (subjective). Depending on the number of wine tasting years, reference and taste development etc. And again the personal preferences. It is known that most people have some trouble with aged wines. As they also struggle with controlled oxidatively raised wines. Because most of the wine on offer is from one of the last available vintages. In general. Wines of 5 or 10 years old are often an exception. The challenge of learning to appreciate aged wine will not really work. Unless you have your own wine cellar or you know the right sales channels. We have generally become accustomed to young, seductive, very fruity wines, In general, this is the reference! So you taste, unprepared, wines of 5, 10 years or much older, then that can cause confusion and disappointment. That doesn't really make much sense. My experience, taste some older wines step by step, started with wines from 5 to 10 years old, for example. Take your time to learn to appreciate them. And if it is ultimately not your type of wine, fine too! If you seem to appreciate these matured wines, you can continue step by step. Finally, a few years ago I tasted the "Verdignan 1996". Not the most legendary wine. But a more than excellent wine at this level! Convincing balance, still lively and very drinkable. A beautiful complexity and elegance of a classic Cru Bourgeois. The austere, which can characterize classical Bordeaux, was as good as gone. Especially with a dinner based on pot roast, mushrooms and baked potatoes. Accompanied by broccoli and young matured melted cheese. Cheers and thanks for the useful video.
Here in California, Chateau Verdignan sells for $20. Chateau Malescasse sells for $35.00. You need to move👍! A $6.00 bottle Trader Joe’s wines sold for $20 when I visited BC. Canada punishes anyone who buys alcohol.
@@TrophyWineHunter I love the Canadian Rockies! I love Vancouver! I just don’t like paying triple the cost for wine to pay for Social Programs. So…I’ll stay in the U.S. with low liquor and cigar prices.
I am not a fan of aged wine, i often made the experience that they get flat and boring. They loose their grip. But its only my personal preference. Cheers👋
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Interesting observations. Congrats for the video!
grigorhaig: thank you for your continued support. Cheers!
Great video! I actually had that exact bottle of Verdignan earlier this year and enjoyed it after two hours of decanting. It shook off the funkiness. Not at its peak, but didn't feel dead either. For $30, I found it worth it.
rnj: perhaps I just got a bad bottle but I tried without decanting and then after a few hours and didn't improve. In any event, I don't think it is a long term cellar wine. Cheers!
Definitely a great topic and helpful in providing the specifics on how a past-prime wine tastes.👏👏
Fortunately in my relatively brief wine journey, I've had one wine such wine, which was a value wine accelerated in age due to poor storage (a hot summer without the A/C running to keep the room reasonably cool).
mickeylee: I am sure you will have others along your journey. I think many times people age their wines too long and think the wine itself is not to their liking when in fact, we are asking the wine to do something it can't do. Cheers!
@@TrophyWineHunter, I'm hoping it won't be the case too much since I'm still at the phase of enjoying wines on their earlier phases.😁😁
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Interesting video and a topic that isn't discussed nearly enough. There's lots of video content out there of people drinking 100+yr old bottles and talking about how amazing it is. Well, I bet those wines are totally over the hill in most circumstances. Also, I love your "celery" descriptor. I've found it difficult to describe the flavor of wine that is just too old for its own good, usually opting for "too old wine flavor" as a description. But I'll try thinking of celery next time I have a bottle that is passed its prime and see what I think!
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Many thanks for your insights. I totally concur regarding drinking wine past their prime, the more you collect the higher the risk thereof. It is shocking how much less one drinks as one ages, quite unfair :). I’d also like to offer you my condolences for having to deal with BC Liquor Stores and BC wine tax, 100%. As a European used to dumb socialist ideas from politicians even we haven’t gotten to 100% wine tax, yet.
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A well-known fact, but let me call it again. Wine tasting is often very personal, which we appreciate and what not (subjective). Depending on the number of wine tasting years, reference and taste development etc. And again the personal preferences. It is known that most people have some trouble with aged wines. As they also struggle with controlled oxidatively raised wines. Because most of the wine on offer is from one of the last available vintages. In general. Wines of 5 or 10 years old are often an exception. The challenge of learning to appreciate aged wine will not really work. Unless you have your own wine cellar or you know the right sales channels. We have generally become accustomed to young, seductive, very fruity wines, In general, this is the reference! So you taste, unprepared, wines of 5, 10 years or much older, then that can cause confusion and disappointment. That doesn't really make much sense. My experience, taste some older wines step by step, started with wines from 5 to 10 years old, for example. Take your time to learn to appreciate them. And if it is ultimately not your type of wine, fine too! If you seem to appreciate these matured wines, you can continue step by step. Finally, a few years ago I tasted the "Verdignan 1996". Not the most legendary wine. But a more than excellent wine at this level!
Convincing balance, still lively and very drinkable. A beautiful complexity and elegance of a classic Cru Bourgeois. The austere, which can characterize classical Bordeaux, was as good as gone. Especially with a dinner based on pot roast, mushrooms and baked potatoes. Accompanied by broccoli and young matured melted cheese.
Cheers and thanks for the useful video.
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Here in California, Chateau Verdignan sells for $20. Chateau Malescasse sells for $35.00. You need to move👍! A $6.00 bottle Trader Joe’s wines sold for $20 when I visited BC. Canada punishes anyone who buys alcohol.
dan: yeah but we have the mountains and my beloved Vancouver Canucks here! Cheers!
@@TrophyWineHunter I love the Canadian Rockies! I love Vancouver! I just don’t like paying triple the cost for wine to pay for Social Programs. So…I’ll stay in the U.S. with low liquor and cigar prices.
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I am not a fan of aged wine, i often made the experience that they get flat and boring. They loose their grip. But its only my personal preference. Cheers👋
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