Euler's formula with introductory group theory

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  • @3blue1brown
    @3blue1brown  7 ปีที่แล้ว +860

    For those who want to learn more about where the number e comes from, and why that constant 0.6931... showed up for 2^s, there's a video out it in the "Essence of calculus" series: th-cam.com/video/m2MIpDrF7Es/w-d-xo.html

    • @reaniegane
      @reaniegane 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      3Blue1Brown could you do simplectic geometry in classical mechanics ? Maybe a topic from Arnold's or mardsens book on classical mechanics. Those are graduate text to mathematics, but they cover physics

    • @ev4_gaming
      @ev4_gaming 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      3Blue1Brown If i^2 = -1, does i^4 (4x90° rotation) equal 1?

    • @reaniegane
      @reaniegane 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      EV4 Gaming yes. Multiply i by itself 4 times.

    • @ev4_gaming
      @ev4_gaming 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Max Yurievich Okay, thank you

    • @nirbhaythacker6662
      @nirbhaythacker6662 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This is no proof, i really can't answer a teacher this way can I?
      You need to get mathematical with intuition.

  • @vlogbrothers
    @vlogbrothers 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4040

    This is just so, so great. Approachable but rigorous, and in its way, kind of thrilling. -John

    • @3blue1brown
      @3blue1brown  7 ปีที่แล้ว +489

      Thanks so much John!

    • @fossilfighters101
      @fossilfighters101 7 ปีที่แล้ว +108

      John! You watch this channel?! I didn't know there were other nerdfighters around here!

    • @aaaab384
      @aaaab384 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      But he didn't really prove anything whatsoever!

    • @mitchbet
      @mitchbet 7 ปีที่แล้ว +148

      aa That's not the point of the channel. Anyone who has done a maths degree has seen the proofs. This channel is to show maths to people who haven't done a maths degree

    • @UtsavMunendra
      @UtsavMunendra 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Hey nerdfighter!!!

  • @aaronbrown5477
    @aaronbrown5477 5 ปีที่แล้ว +255

    Whenever I get demotivated with my studies, I watch your videos to remind myself the beauty of mathematics to motivate me to learn more of it. I know a lot of people say thank you, but through all my struggles, you make me want to continue to learn! So, Mr. Brown, thank you!!!!!

  • @arkapointer
    @arkapointer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1444

    Final year math undergad.
    NOBODY (not even any top level book) has explained isomorphism/homomorphism to me the way you did.
    Much,much love and respect from India.

    • @aryamanmishra154
      @aryamanmishra154 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      which uni?

    • @JordanMetroidManiac
      @JordanMetroidManiac 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Same!!!

    • @aurelia8028
      @aurelia8028 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Of course it's india...

    • @notsoclearsky
      @notsoclearsky 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      @@aurelia8028 no, he just got a shitty teacher. There are good and bad teachers everywhere. I'm in high school and my teacher introduced me to this channel. He has taught so many things that are out of my syllabus because he has real passion of teaching.

    • @celestialrex551
      @celestialrex551 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@notsoclearsky you are lucky man , we got teachers who just want marks

  • @richardgalea9884
    @richardgalea9884 4 ปีที่แล้ว +253

    As a 70 year old man, I thank you for at last you made me comprehend more the beauty of mathematics...

  • @lilamjazeefa9466
    @lilamjazeefa9466 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1132

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    12:57 Criss cross!
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    02:30 Freeze!
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    • @hoelefouk
      @hoelefouk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      you are a genius.

    • @Titurel
      @Titurel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Brilliant!

    • @Reaction1s
      @Reaction1s 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @19:07 - now it's time to get funky

    • @ahlamamr4659
      @ahlamamr4659 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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    • @khiemgom
      @khiemgom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lmao can someone explain

  • @geraldmerkowitz4360
    @geraldmerkowitz4360 7 ปีที่แล้ว +459

    We will never say this enough : your animation is gorgeous

    • @dbanetinc
      @dbanetinc 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Archibald Belanus it is.

  • @timh.6872
    @timh.6872 7 ปีที่แล้ว +545

    I've seen both Essence of series multiple times, watched space filling curves and towers of hanoi, but this video, this one right here, is the most beautiful thing on this channel. Maybe I care too much about math, but the transition near the end from 2^x to 5^x to e^x, building up to that e^i*pi chokes me up every time. Pretty sure I had tears the first time I watched it. This video transitions from "why would this ever make sense" into "what else could it be" over the course of 20 minutes. Truly a masterpiece...

    • @3blue1brown
      @3blue1brown  7 ปีที่แล้ว +173

      +Tim H. Wow, thanks so much! That's kind of you on so many levels, I'm glad you enjoyed.

    • @wizardom
      @wizardom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      His videos have the same effect on me!

    • @saswatapatra5919
      @saswatapatra5919 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Ohh i thought i was the only weird guy who cried over mathematics videos 😂

    • @vaguebrownfox
      @vaguebrownfox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow, could have said it better myself. I never thought I'd cry over math---with happy tears.

    • @zilanh3160
      @zilanh3160 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if there was a bit of sad music i probably would've cried too

  • @Cold_Ham_on_Rye
    @Cold_Ham_on_Rye 7 ปีที่แล้ว +215

    I'm currently in grad school studying robotics. One of the cruxes of engineering is taking maths on faith. We don't necessarily have the time to make sense of these things. Your videos have helped me understand Linear Algebra and Diff Eq so much better beyond it's applications. I really appreciate what you do. e makes more and more sense every day.

    • @hailmary7283
      @hailmary7283 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      The crazy thing is even in math programs (at least at my undergraduate institution), a lot of what we had to do was take math on faith. We were basically given the definition of a group as though they were handed to us on stone tablets like Mosses on Mount Sinai. Never asking "why the hell are we using this as our definition of a group?" or "what even IS a group and what is the broader concept it's supposed to represent?" It would be like teaching a six year old: multiplication is the process of repeating the addition property an indicated number of times. Sure it's correct, but you aren't really learning multiplication at a deeper level and it becomes harder to later generalize to multiplying by zero, fractions, or God forbid, negative numbers. Visuals of rotating a 4x5 grid to show that 4x5 = 5x4 are a much better way of understanding the fact that multiplication is commutative than simply being told it's an axiom and just something you have to accept.
      These 3Blue 1 Brown videos are a great example of the rotating the grid type of visuals that give one a much deeper understanding of what these concepts actually represent as opposed to some vague abstract construct with which to work.

  • @joshuaflackua
    @joshuaflackua ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I can say with utter confidence that this is the best TH-cam channel I've ever come across. So incredible how much of my education clicks every time I watch one of your videos.

  • @mikekeim3178
    @mikekeim3178 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I really wish I'd had a video of my class (a collection of 11th and 12th graders finishing up a multivariable calculus elective) watching this video just now. They broke out clapping and hooting when the big reveal happened at 20:50. You're doing something really special and greatly appreciated with these videos. Thank you for sharing this with all of us.

  • @JovanaaaSK
    @JovanaaaSK 7 ปีที่แล้ว +265

    I am the most grateful human being after discovering this. Thank you so much. I was almost about to quit my master's thesis in maths (just because we never visualize anything, just learning stuff with the speed of light but no-one ever explains us how to imagine things and that really makes me nervous), but you're a part of the people/things that helped me get my thrill back. This is pure gold, thank you so much Sir, from the bottom of my heart.

    • @TheGamshid
      @TheGamshid 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I am in the same situation, feeling the same gratitude.

    • @mysteriousman8576
      @mysteriousman8576 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jovana Krstevska Hi

    • @gurumayummadan2646
      @gurumayummadan2646 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Jovana Krstevska I can relate. That is very true. Lesser and lesser imagination and visualization as we try to learn more. Kinda kills the fun. Fortunately, you have been saved. I am happy for you.

    • @markopanev3317
      @markopanev3317 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Prvpat gledam makedonec da komentira na vakvo video lol

    • @seankelly8906
      @seankelly8906 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No offense but I find it really surpising a master's student would say this. Don't get me wrong, I'm up late watching this for the hell of it because I like the teaching elements, but I'm just shocked someone in a graduate program needs to be taught to imagine things.

  • @tpat90
    @tpat90 7 ปีที่แล้ว +247

    A year ago, I wasn't able to find a single math student watching your videos. Nowadays this is a different story.
    And we even start to infect the new students with your amazing work.
    Your way to look at the topic is most of the time just ... amazing. And gives a perfect base to jump into even complex topics head on. Your videos led me to many really interesting discussions and that's why I always appreciate to see a new video of yours.
    If I had a wish, I would love to see your take on absolute continuous or smoothness (probably because I love the cantor function...) some day in the future.
    Have a great day!

    • @3blue1brown
      @3blue1brown  7 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      I would definitely like to do an "Essence of real analysis" one day, and the topics you mention would be right on there.

    • @kudancer
      @kudancer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This would be amazing.....I have thought the hardest part of math is analysis and you're just the guy to do it.

    • @tpat90
      @tpat90 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Evi1M4chine
      I study math and most of the people I know don't like to memorize something.
      We try to understand. And this counts for every single one of my lecturers and their assistances.
      Sometimes this goes so far down the rabbit hole, that we nearly commit an entire lecture, just to understand that one thing.
      Sure there are theorems you might only need to know exist in the first place, like stuff from Frobenius, fudge this dude and his proofs. Also there was a time in mathematics, where it wasn't accepted to use graphical assistance to help the understanding of a topic. Just look at most of Euler's and Gauß's proofs. Those feel like they had a completely different understanding for the topic, but every evidence of sketches or graphical explanation got deleted, since it was a 'no go' in the era.
      But this isn't the case anymore. Not to say that everything get's easier with graphical understanding of a simplified problem, but either way you have to put effort and a lot of work in understanding simple theorems to explain them in the way 3Blue1Brown does. And if it takes 10 hours just to get one idea, that's okay.
      And most of the fellow students I share my time with, love mathematics. Like two friends of mine stood in front of a chalkboard, trying to understand why you need certain properties in a theorem, if it would be enough to use more global statements. They spent 2 hours (after a complete day of lectures) just to understand this one bit.
      This is what studying mathematics is for. Understanding and expanding your knowledge on the topic of your choosing.
      BUT Wikipedia is a page of knowledge, not understanding. If you want to understand, you are welcomed to study mathematics. Get books about a topic or just search it up on Math Stackexchange.
      Wikipedia is to fast look up a certain theorem and it's not built for mathematicians, it's for everyone.
      To much information will sometimes lead to struggle, if certain people are unwilling to put in the said effort and time. They don't need an explanation how it works or why it works, but only that it will work and achieve the output needed. Nothing else.
      They simply don't have the time and energy to do so.
      Don't try to force them to understand those things.

    • @firefly618
      @firefly618 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Wikipedia decided long ago to be an _encyclopedia,_ that is, to collect knowledge supported by reputable sources. It's not the place to add your own explanations for complicated concepts.
      A blog would be a better place; or an homepage provided by your institution or company; or a TH-cam channel like this one; or you could write a book if you have enough material.
      Either way, if and when your material gains acceptance and recognition, in a way that can be measured by that "cabal" of editors you despise, then it will be gladly accepted into Wikipedia.

    • @tpat90
      @tpat90 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Zaknafein Do'Urden
      A Zin-Carla in the comment section? Didn't thought you could type...

  • @antonzavorotny3537
    @antonzavorotny3537 7 ปีที่แล้ว +743

    Please make more videos on group theory! Group theory in general is such a good topic to give intuition about because no one know what it is unless you study math. Also, I really need a good way to picture quotient groups!

    • @3blue1brown
      @3blue1brown  7 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      I intend to, I agree that it's a really nice topic. For quotient groups, it helps a lot to contemplate of tightening up on the structure you care about for the thing being acted on, so to speak. For example, think of the map from D_8 -> Z_2, where for each square symmetry, you consider how it shuffles the two diagonal lines. That each, a symmetry maps to 1 if those diagonal lines are exchanged, and 0 otherwise. The Kernel of this map (which is a quotient D_8/Z_2) can be seen in all actions of D_8 that don't exchange those two diagonal lines, which consists of four actions, isomorphic to K_4. That would be better with some animations, but hopefully it helps a bit.

    • @umbraemilitos
      @umbraemilitos 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      3Blue1Brown Algebraic Geometry is a really interesting and visual discipline for Group Theory, Rings, Ideals, as well as concepts in Topology and Linear Algebra.

    • @ben1996123
      @ben1996123 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      the quotient group G/H is a generalisation of "congruence modulo n". take 2 elements, a,b in G. in G/H, these elements represent the cosets aH and bH, which are equal if and only if ab^-1 is in H (or a+H = b+H iff a-b in H if you use additive notation). notice that this is basically the definition of congruence mod n: integers a,b are congruent mod n iff a-b is a multiple of n.
      example: suppose G = Z, H = 5Z. if a,b are elements in G, then the elements a+H, b+H are equal in G/H iff a-b is in H, i.e. if a-b is divisible by 5, i.e. if a=b mod 5. so G/H is the group of integers mod 5.
      another way to think about it is that to find the group G/H, you take G and replace all elements of H by the identity. so in the example Z/5Z, take the integers and replace all multiples of 5 with zero. consequently you have to replace all numbers of the form 5n+1 with 1, etc. so you are just left with 0,1,2,3,4 in the group.
      this idea is the same for quotients of rings by ideals. an example i like is R[x]/(x^2+1) where R[x] is the ring of real polynomials and (x^2+1) is the ideal generated by x^2+1, i.e. all real polynomials that have x^2+1 as a factor. the quotient ring R[x]/(x^2+1) is what you get when you take R[x] and replace all instances of x^2+1 by 0, so this ring is isomorphic to C. if f(x) in R[x] is a polynomial, you can write f(x) = (x^2+1)q(x)+r(x) where r has degree 0 or 1 by euclidean division, then x^2+1 becomes zero so f(x) is the same as r(x) in the quotient.
      example: take f(x) = 9x^3 + 2x^2 - x - 7. then f(x) = (9x+2)(x^2+1) + (-9-10x). replacing x^2+1 with 0, you see that f(x) is the same as -9-10x in the quotient, and indeed, f(i) = -9-10i

    • @JM-us3fr
      @JM-us3fr 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes please! That's probably the closest he will ever get to number theory.

    • @swiminbandgeek
      @swiminbandgeek 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I absolutely love this
      I'm a chemist, and I love how this video in particular gets me thinking about how group theory works
      Some day I want to teach group theory for chemists too chemists so this mathematical understanding is really awesome

  • @mz1rek
    @mz1rek 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Fascinating video, I really appreciate the visualization of the group theory. but I can't help but point out a minor ISSUE at 13:27 The rotation of 2+i is not 30 degrees, but approximately 26.565 degrees (arctan(1/2))

    • @MatthewWroten
      @MatthewWroten 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah this hurt me too

    • @mz1rek
      @mz1rek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MatthewWroten What hurts me is that my comment didn't get a heart. I want to assume that Grant didn't have a chance to read it! :)

    • @bulubado
      @bulubado 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      thanks for point out error❤

  • @johnchessant3012
    @johnchessant3012 6 ปีที่แล้ว +208

    So all e^(i*pi) = -1 is saying is that "rotation by 180 degrees is the same as a reflection". Neat!

    • @UnordEntertainment
      @UnordEntertainment 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      not the same as a reflection, only the same as reflecting the point at 1+0i using the imaginary axis as a mirror line, note that such an action does however reflect the real axis across the "mirror point" of 0 because the real line is 1 dimensional and therefore has no orientation to help distinguish reflection and rotation

    • @ugozahm4902
      @ugozahm4902 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It is the same as the central reflection centered on 0, but not as the axial reflection along the imaginary axis

    • @randomname7918
      @randomname7918 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The one thing I didn't understand is what is the rule according to which the points on the vertical axis get mapped to the points on the circle at the end

    • @chappie3642
      @chappie3642 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@randomname7918 you take the imginary Number shown on the left and that's your x, then you raise the esponent (2, then 5 then e) to the x and that Is your result shown on the right

    • @LydellAaron
      @LydellAaron 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very cool way to interpret it geometrically.

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    @samlefty6732 7 ปีที่แล้ว +291

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      @mohsinuddin7049 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

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      @udith 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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  • @barth05
    @barth05 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thank you for your work, I'm a PhD student in Electrical Eng. and wanted to go deeper in to the fundamentals of signal processing and linear algebra.. Your videos helped me think about these visualizations better, and you do a good job on them. I hope you continue inspiring and helping people all around the world. See ya. Kudos from Brazil.

  • @Sam_596
    @Sam_596 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So your explanation of complex numbers with shifting and stretching and rotating has taught me more about complex numbers, in an intuitive sense, than any teacher.
    So thank you

  • @logixindie
    @logixindie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    Who is this? The perfect math teacher? Indeed.

  • @itsiwhatitsi
    @itsiwhatitsi 7 ปีที่แล้ว +765

    This Channel is better than University. You are the man 3Blue1Brown

    • @jsutinbibber9508
      @jsutinbibber9508 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Sophisticated Coherence but he does not teach everything else

    • @AlchemistOfNirnroot
      @AlchemistOfNirnroot 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@jsutinbibber9508 What stage are you at in your education? Because these videos become absolutely indispensable at some point and fourth (not gonna get ya to the finish line - bad analogy - but gives some ideas about stamina (for example).

    • @Artaxerxes.
      @Artaxerxes. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      University has always been a joke. A scam

    • @molomono9481
      @molomono9481 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Im sorry to hear you didnt go to a good one.
      In europe its very cheap and right now im studying at University of Twente in systems and control, it is very good. The teachers are competent and caring, our facilities are good. The campus promotes sports and social associations that help you develop skills outside of the core classes.
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    • @gabrielnettoferreira8452
      @gabrielnettoferreira8452 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They really aren't a scam, lol
      ANY university in the world teach this kind of thing in mathematics related courses.

  • @bishantadhikari3440
    @bishantadhikari3440 7 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    "Those who know do, those who understand teach." And your are one of the best examples of the second one.

    • @businesstuber3978
      @businesstuber3978 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The one I hear often is 'those who can, do. those who can't, teach' which is kinda funny. sorry about the four year old reply

  • @_alyssarose
    @_alyssarose 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    After a bit of abstract algebra I finally understand the reason why you move zero in the additive group and one in the multiplicative group. They're the identities of that group! I'm still realizing things from these videos even after watching them in the past.

  • @AdarshSingh-wv4ff
    @AdarshSingh-wv4ff 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The best thing about u is what you know??
    U make an intuitive pictures of everything. U make us to think the abstractness of any mathematical topic.The same way I had learned maths in childhood and still learning. And I want to thank u a lot because this video helped me in writing my mathematical papers....

  • @dez-m
    @dez-m 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This channel started my love for calculus at a young age. Am currently pursuing Engineering at Berkeley. Thank you so much!

    • @xyzct
      @xyzct 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good for you! I got my degree in geophysics from Berkeley, and I am so proud and grateful that I went there.

  • @judsonkuhrman5577
    @judsonkuhrman5577 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think one of my favorite proofs I have found of Euler's formula was in a book I picked on relativity, where it starts with only the equations ds²=dx²+dy² and rθ=s, and ends up showing rθ=x+iy, without even defining the number π.

  • @TheChondriac
    @TheChondriac 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I just want to say, Grant, that I really love this revisiting of the Euler formula. I didn't quite understand the whole idea you were trying to get across in the first video, about stretching, moving, and rotating being related to certain operations. But the group explanation has actually really helped me to understand it.

  • @peorakef
    @peorakef 5 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    If you were to start from square one and do a complete course covering math from calculus I, it would become the new standard reference of the modern world, replacing all those crappy books.

  • @munmunbanaerjee9572
    @munmunbanaerjee9572 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cant wait for more complex analysis videos really...this video by the way was extremely thrilling to be watched and getting to atleast know that angle preseving or the analytic nature of the e to the z function isnt opaque but quiet enthralling for all if they stumble on this video and especially the point where the video closes off just vividly showing it...its a blessing to be a part of this channel...💙

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  • @GelidGanef
    @GelidGanef 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Has it really been only two years? Has it really been already two years! Congratulations!
    You are legitimately one of my favorite channels. It's been fun to be along for this ride, hope it continues for years to come!

  • @SpaghettiToaster
    @SpaghettiToaster 7 ปีที่แล้ว +386

    Oh shit, that intuition leading to the conclusion i*i=-1 is just beautiful!

    • @YitzharVered
      @YitzharVered 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Well, i is DEFINED by being the square root of one. it would be the same thing as saying: "Wow! way to prove that the ratio between a circles perimiter and its diameter is exactly pi!"

    • @SujithIshtar
      @SujithIshtar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      It wasn't a conclusion as such, but more of a process in the context of group theory of how i*i is -1. Well, i*i=-1 is the very equation by which i is defined, so he didn't prove anything new, but rather showed us the process of how it works. So people who would ask what's x*i or essentially, "what does multiplying by i do?" would find this illustration useful. Just saying i*i=-1 is a given is one answer, but more of a declarative one, and it raises plenty more questions than it solves. Giving an animation to explain the process helps people explore complex numbers. So it was the same thing as saying, "Just saying i*i=-1 is not satisfying. Here is something that you might find satisfactory and it will help you explore complex numbers as well."

    • @standlegweak9854
      @standlegweak9854 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Trust me when I say this: do NOT make spaghetti in the toaster. Don't ask me how I know, it's not important. Just don't do it.

    • @ZweiZombies
      @ZweiZombies 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But i^i is not - 1, it's ≈ 0.2

    • @ZweiZombies
      @ZweiZombies 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nevermind, I mistook the * for a ^

  • @paulo9523
    @paulo9523 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is by far is one of my favorite 3B1B videos, I come back to watch it again and again

  • @Asteria32
    @Asteria32 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Grant, this explanation is has really done it for me. I am a junior at uni studying physics and I am so glad that you have made this video because I finally understand things that I didn't even think I didn't understand in the first place. Not just with euler's formula but with math in general. Thanks a lot.

  • @berni1602
    @berni1602 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I finally understood this concept. I'm a math lover, although I'm a biologist.
    I didn't quite undersand why, a teacher tried to explain it to me, but nothing; I read about the subject but nothing; I even watched other trying to explain it, but nothing. Finally I've found an explanation I can understand and it's beautiful, I mean it! Thank you so much!

  • @helo3827
    @helo3827 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This imo is the best Math channel on TH-cam

  • @saras4123
    @saras4123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love this. It's perfect. I'm lulled by numbers and finding order in disorder, patterns of beauty in a chaotic place. It's beautiful how he describes it to make sense... I don't have the education to do calculus now but I see numbers how he describes it, exactly. It's like 0 is middle C on the piano. I love patterns. Music is math. I'm in awe.

  • @chairmanmeow9110
    @chairmanmeow9110 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is, hands down, one of my favorite video's on TH-cam

  • @g_vost
    @g_vost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    polar coordinates are such a nice way to describe complex numbers, and better highlight how complex numbers, though described with 2 values, represent a single number.
    positive reals are rotated 0 radians, negative reals are rotated pi radians, making the real axis. these are all the numbers we know now. rotations other than 0 or pi radians are numbers that arent entirely on the real axis, and are called lateral numbers. in this system, numbers are defined by a magnitude and rotation. 1 is 1

  • @gabrielwu5787
    @gabrielwu5787 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, what an enlightening video! I had previously held a certain intuition about multiplication on the complex plane as scaling and rotation, but I didn't really understand WHY we choose to think of it like that. This video explains very well how exponentiation is simply a homomorphism between sliding and stretching. So when we extend into the complex plane, we turn vertical sliding into rotation to encompass all 2D transformations.

  • @ds08tf
    @ds08tf 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The number line transformations remind me strongly of 1D matrix transformations. Especially as you illustrated them in your Essence of Linear Algebra series.
    Thank you for helping me improve my understanding.

    • @zairaner1489
      @zairaner1489 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fun fact: The transformations of the multiplicative group of th ecomplex numbers represents exactly those 2D lienar transformatiosn which are not just real linear transformations but even Complex linear transformations (meaning they are the linear transformations commuting with multiplication by complex numbers)

  • @garlic7099
    @garlic7099 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Currently studying for my complex analysis exam, and man am I ever grateful to you for this video! It was an 𝘪 opening experience for me!

    • @sophiap.8859
      @sophiap.8859 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How dare you make me read that pun with my own two i’s

    • @boston0086
      @boston0086 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sophiap.8859 i cannot unsee that

    • @boston0086
      @boston0086 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did you pass bro?

    • @garlic7099
      @garlic7099 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@boston0086 Hahah In the end I didn't even do it. The corona quarantine had just started and so I just got a passing grade.
      So yeah, I guess.. Sorta passed :)

    • @boston0086
      @boston0086 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@garlic7099 Congrats bro:) the most important thing is that you you were interested in it! The topic about complex analysis is so much, you will always learn new stuff about that :D

  • @blattsalat77
    @blattsalat77 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Every time I learn something new and interesting in your videos I wan't to like it, but then I see that I already liked it. Keep up the good work!

  • @tylerm442
    @tylerm442 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your channel. I usually end up watching your videos right when they come out and I tend to just go with the flow bc I hv no idea what's going on lol. But then I watch them a few more times, maybe not to completion, or with huge gaps of time in-between viewings, and I suddenly feel like switch go off in my head. And then once that happens and everything falls into place, it just feels beautifully awesome and I can extend my gratitude enough for making such abstract concepts relatively easy to digest and really comprehend. Because at the end of the day, I could read a textbook, but this gives so much more depth which is extremely helpful especially when starting out.

  • @prasadsawant1358
    @prasadsawant1358 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    group theory has bought us the solution of various problems which remained unsolved for hundreds of years...i didn't know it was that easy.Thank you very much 3Blue1Brown.

  • @sharanmourya
    @sharanmourya 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    awesome !!!! when you uploaded the video about e^pi i two years ago, I couldn't understand it completely and this video helped me alot in gaining insight and complete my understanding of what "taking adders to multipliers" is-the phrase you used in that video. I am always thankful to you for making such amazing videos. I wish I could meet you and learn math directly from you.....keep up the great work of making people enthusiastic in math !! waiting for your essence of calculus series ........

  • @xan1716
    @xan1716 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I haven't watched the other videos, but the argument at 19:30 seems to be somewhat circular: If you are already at the point where you are comfortable enough with the definition of complex exponentials to be able to reason which base "makes sense", then you already know "why e^(i*pi)=-1". In other words, this video was less about 'the why' of this relation, and more about how it could make sense if one considers the exponential function to be a mapping between two groups on the complex numbers, e^(i*pi)=-1. Not to take away from the rest of the video, which was obviously great :)
    Edit: no pun intended with 'circular' :)

    • @guilhermebotelho1615
      @guilhermebotelho1615 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed! The video is great, but this one step is not clear enough I think.
      The explanation at 21:06 kinda touches on it, because it hints that the derivative of different exponentials would mean a different rate of change around the unit circle, meaning that Euler's formula only works for e. That said, he still didn't elaborate on it enough I think.
      Edit: If you do the derivative with 2^x instead of e^x, you get i(ln(2)2^(i*t)) which might be the explanation we were looking for! Because the factor in the derivative is converted into a factor in the velocity around the circle. This explains the angle we get if we use 2^x instead of e^x, as well as e^x is special.

  • @farrankhawaja9856
    @farrankhawaja9856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    This needs to be shown to more people. I hate when they use the taylor series expansion to explain this. This is so much more intuative!

    • @solidpython4964
      @solidpython4964 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It is intuition, but it isn’t proof. Both should be considered.

  • @vector8310
    @vector8310 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Complex analysis is just glorious. Eternal gratitude to you for this and your entire TH-cam corpus.

  • @markhughes7927
    @markhughes7927 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am not a mathematician only an appreciator of clear and logical thought - I found that exposition absolutely breathtaking for clarity and logic. Arithmetic actively (verbally) conceived: slide, stretch and rotate and refer to the constant pi. The next stage I guess is to use descriptive language which extends this to plottings within the volumetric spaces of polyhedra?
    My thanks to you for unblocking something in mind.

  • @kummer45
    @kummer45 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This man and his contributors deserves a worldwide recognition of mathematicians around the world.
    This channel is SERVING the mathematics to everybody.

  • @purplepenguin8452
    @purplepenguin8452 7 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I think group theory and discussing graphs would fit well with your amazing visual style of presentation.
    I would love love love to see a series on group theory build up to giving a sense of why in the world checking if two graphs are the same is so freaking hard. For example touching on graph isomorphism and Babai's work. It sounds like it has something to do with the symmetric group just being so large it doesn't fit well with our intuition, but it's hard to see. It just hurts my mind that something can be "easy" enough to do in _linear time_ vs graph size for almost all graphs, yet no one knows how to do it in even an arbitrarily large polynomial amount of time vs size if it must work for _all_ graphs!

    • @mr80s14
      @mr80s14 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'd love that too. There are some textbook like introductions on youtube (check out Sarada Herke), but nothing to bridge jumping to any of Babai's lecture videos, and nothing really conveys to me the core difficultly they are fighting against. Linear in time for almost all graphs, I had no idea the gap was that big! I'd love to see a visualization of what that core difficulty is that somehow escapes almost all graphs. So mysterious, I bet there is something beautiful in there when explained well!

    • @ganondorfchampin
      @ganondorfchampin 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it has nothing to do with group theory, but instead just computer science. It's because the problem is NP-Complete as you can reduce the satisfaction problem to it somehow.

  • @johnchessant3012
    @johnchessant3012 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    So in this view, adding 1 to both sides to 'beautify' the equation as e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 actually obscures its true meaning?
    All e^(i*pi) = -1 is saying is "rotation by 180 degrees is the same as a reflection".
    And if we indulge the tau-ists, then all e^(i*tau) = 1 is saying is "rotation by 360 degrees is the same as doing nothing", which is pretty neat. Euler's formula almost seems like a tautology in this sense, in that this is the only natural way to define e^(i*x).

    • @johnnicholson8811
      @johnnicholson8811 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      e^(i*tau) = 1 is the same as multiplying by 1. As for e^(i*pi) = -1, it is the same as e^(1/2*i*tau) = --1 or rotation of half turn. So, yes pi obscures its true meaning.

    • @linus6718
      @linus6718 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If e^(i*tau) is 1, doesn't that mean i * tau = 0?

    • @Daniel_Lopes_13
      @Daniel_Lopes_13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@linus6718 No, because the exponential function in this case is periodic. You see, if e^0 = 1 then e^i*tau = 1 too because the exponential is periodic with period i*tau (the same as saying one rotation by 360 degrees does nothing), so: e^(k+tau*i) = e^k for every number k

    • @Daniel_Lopes_13
      @Daniel_Lopes_13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      but you could say i*tau is congruent to 0 mod(i*tau)

    • @FlyingSavannahs
      @FlyingSavannahs 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Linus Yes, it is. x^0 = 1 for all x's that are real numbers. The reals are rational, irrational and transcendental numbers (think any point you can choose on a continuous numberline). π is a transcendental number so it's included. e too (también!). So, yep, i*tau = 0. Another way to verify is with
      e^iπ = -1 or
      e^i*tau/2 = -1
      Square both sides and you get
      e^i*2π = (-1)^2 = 1 or
      e^i*(tau/2)*2 = e^i*tau = 1.
      Thus
      e^i*tau = 1 = e^0
      Now take the natural log of both sides
      In(e^i*tau) = ln(e^0)
      i*tau * ln(e) = 0 * ln(e)
      and ln(e) = 1 so
      i*tau = 0 Booyah!
      @Daniel Lopes actually states the generalized formula for any value k an integer perfectly but denies his own equation for the valid k = 0.
      cred:
      I have an MS in Physics '85 and a Math minor, 30 years of scientific work experience, am left-handed, and have spoken with Doug Hofstadter personally about "Göedel, Escher, Bach, an Eternal Golden Braid."

  • @shmackydoo
    @shmackydoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The group theory way of looking at things is almost as earth shattering to my mind as looking at the world and history through the lens of dialectical materialism. It's so important to understanding these things better.

  • @joetursi9573
    @joetursi9573 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should market these videos, especially this one, to all colleges offering group theory. Just wonderful. Thanks so much!

  • @tux1468
    @tux1468 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Group theory has a TON of potential when it comes to optimizing machine code, and I'm disappointed that not more people are looking into it.

    • @HyrumCooper
      @HyrumCooper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This really interests me as a student studying Computer Science. How can group theory be used to optimize machine code?

  • @TheBookDoctor
    @TheBookDoctor 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Excellent. My only quibble is that in discussing multiplication on the number line, you only referred to the "multiplicative group of POSITIVE numbers." And while it's pretty obvious what multiplication by negative numbers should do to the line, you didn't spell it out. And yet, when talking about i*i = -1, you referred to -1 as the "unique action" without having earlier made clear that negative numbers are also a valid part of the multiplicative group.

    • @zairaner1489
      @zairaner1489 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I actually found that quite genius of him. The point was that positive real numbers are pure stretchings while negative numbers also include rotations, which are a complex thing (and notice that the real exponential function only puts out positve numbers, so the real exponential function only gives you a relation between the additive real numbers and the multiplicative positve numbers)

    • @zairaner1489
      @zairaner1489 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      And he did spell it out when he explained the complex multiplication and how it relates to rotation ;)

    • @gerhetTD
      @gerhetTD 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      uhm.... it's genius of him because frankly multiplication by real negative number is just stretching and flipping through 0, it's not really a complex thing. In 1D, there is no need for rotation to involve. It happens that in complex, "flipping" through y-axis is 180 degree rotation.

    • @zairaner1489
      @zairaner1489 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Exactly. If he had talked about multiplying by negative numbers in 1D, it could have looked like flipping. But that would have created a misconception when extending to the complex plane because multiplying by negative 1 is not flipping in the complex plane but just rotation.

    • @columbus8myhw
      @columbus8myhw 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's 'cause only the positive reals are in the range of the exponential map e^x (where x is real), but all complex numbers other than zero are in the range of the exponential map e^x (where x is complex).

  • @roshimap.b1833
    @roshimap.b1833 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow.... this is the best introduction for group theory that i have ever seen.
    Thanks a lot.

  • @amatya.rakshasa
    @amatya.rakshasa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You’re the best math teacher I never had. Thank you for making these videos. I can’t possibly ever express in words the true depths of my gratefulness. Thank you!!!!

  • @ofelia829
    @ofelia829 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Notes in music work like this.
    There’s a relationship amongst the degrees of a key and all the possibilities of neighbours.
    No matter if counterpoint or harmony,they do function symmetrically.
    Even inversions in micro . You can actually see the actual distance depending on the inversion.
    Thank you for uploading.

  • @dtstar331
    @dtstar331 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I just love how youtube sent me this video to recommended just to see that this 2 year anniversary happened 2 years ago

  • @giacomolanza1726
    @giacomolanza1726 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Thanks for this and other amazing videos. I really like to learn to do such animations.
    I found a small mistake at minute 13: the angle corresponding to 2+i is not 30° but rather arctan 1/2 = arcsin 1/√5 = arccos 2/√5 = 26°33'54"

  • @renatofernandes1086
    @renatofernandes1086 7 ปีที่แล้ว +369

    sadly I can't like your video more than one time.

    • @brikken1
      @brikken1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I agree, sometimes you just miss having the opportunity to show that extra gratitude. However, you could show monetary appreciation at patreon.

    • @Talaxianer
      @Talaxianer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Just make sure that the total number of clicks on the like button is uneven

    • @ir2001
      @ir2001 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol

    • @asterixgallier8102
      @asterixgallier8102 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I desperately need the love button for this video!

    • @msDanielp369
      @msDanielp369 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      share all of his videos on all your social networks and to your friends on messages

  • @eswing2153
    @eswing2153 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The transformations you speak of are some of the most interesting things electrical engineers learn in university. You make this more accessible than how it was presented there. Generally these concepts come about in third year. The transformations allow engineers to get a certain intuition about how AC interactions work. Thanks for making such high quality visualizations and coherent explanations.

    • @seanziesman602
      @seanziesman602 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ya I just realized rectangular form is addictive group of complex numbers and polar form is multiplicative group of complex numbers. It makes sense how you can represent them in both ways.

  • @zcqin
    @zcqin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I found it fascinating and it helped me a lot in my careers - respect from Beijing, China. Keep going, you are changing the world in your own way.

  • @Patsoawsm
    @Patsoawsm 7 ปีที่แล้ว +208

    "They are one example in a much larger category of groups"
    Literally, haha

    • @zairaner1489
      @zairaner1489 7 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Is that a category theory joke? xd

    • @umbraemilitos
      @umbraemilitos 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Patrick
      hehehehe The Joy of Cats.

    • @HilbertXVI
      @HilbertXVI 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nasajetpropulsionlaborator8727 Lmao, projecting much?

  • @RickyMud
    @RickyMud 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I genuinely started laughing at the animation for ixi =-1 and e^pii =-1 such a cool way of showing it

  • @twoli.dev.
    @twoli.dev. ปีที่แล้ว +6

    10:03 ill never forget when you called numbers schizophrenic

    • @mekaindo
      @mekaindo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you forgot?

  • @josejimenez850
    @josejimenez850 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Phenomenal. I've been subscribed to your channel for two years now and every time I watch a new video of yours I am absolutely astonished at your work. Math made beautiful. Just wow. You are a gold mine of youtube

  • @bayleev7494
    @bayleev7494 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's difficult to appreciate just how amazing this video is until you've actually done a course on group theory. When I watched this a couple of years ago, I got the main gist of the idea and I was impressed. However, even though the idea in itself is beautiful, I appreciated how succinctly you summarized the actual rules of group theory so much more. Also, in my education, I didn't really look at group theory as symmetric in nature, so when you showed the different numbers as actions that preserve symmetry it blew my mind. Great video, probably one of the best on this channel (and that's saying something!) :)

  • @6s6
    @6s6 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I can't wait until you hit 1 million subscribers.

    • @eccentricOrange
      @eccentricOrange 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well you should stop waiting now

    • @blackcat5771
      @blackcat5771 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@eccentricOrange lmao

  • @cbhorxo
    @cbhorxo ปีที่แล้ว +3

    10:51 Here, you say you're squishing by a factor 0.5, but you're actually *stretching* by a factor of 0.5, i.e., squishing by a factor of 2

  • @brucefrizzell4221
    @brucefrizzell4221 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for the many subtitles .

  • @ColoredScreens
    @ColoredScreens 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've read/watched lots of information about Euler's Formula and imaginary numbers in general. This was the first explanation that left no doubt in my mind as to why imaginary numbers are so intrinsically related to rotation. Thank you.

  • @kj4242
    @kj4242 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible description of the subject. It motivated me to go to patreon for the second time in my life. The first time was after listening to Sam Harris and The Very Bad Wizard's discuss Partially Examined Life while referencing Robert Wright. In other words, this guy has a definite black belt in explaning complex ideas.

  • @reubenfrench6288
    @reubenfrench6288 7 ปีที่แล้ว +346

    At 13:33 that is NOT a 30 degree rotation. It is approximately a 26.57 degree rotation.

    • @3blue1brown
      @3blue1brown  7 ปีที่แล้ว +275

      Ooh! Good catch, thanks for that. Silly me, mixing up my sides.

    • @ZardoDhieldor
      @ZardoDhieldor 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yup. Thought the same thing, immediately! :D

    • @steventhijs6921
      @steventhijs6921 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Omg you're right, i measured it with my protractor (because that's quiqer than calculating it) and I got exactly that

    • @deniskhryashchev7245
      @deniskhryashchev7245 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Lol it's just arrcos(2/sqrt(5)). Awesome video

    • @willferrous8677
      @willferrous8677 7 ปีที่แล้ว +215

      is arrcos the pirate version of arccos?

  • @jacobhelbig6967
    @jacobhelbig6967 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Please do another video about the Riemann Hypothesis and Ramanujan Sums!

  • @sameerdeshmukh5050
    @sameerdeshmukh5050 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks for the video. The analogy is really helpful. I have just one question:
    In 20:00, you explain that the additive action maps to the multiplicative action, and that the action of vertical sliding maps to rotation as a result. How do you come up with the numbers for the rotation in radians? What is a more intuitive way to understand this scaling apart from using Euler's formula? (which is what we are trying to prove so it does not make sense to use the formula before proving it).

    • @davidkoenig8822
      @davidkoenig8822 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have a similar question. Would love to see if anyone responds to this.

    • @guilhermebotelho1615
      @guilhermebotelho1615 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me 3! At 19:40, he said "it happens to be 0.693 radians", which is the moment that made me really want to now *why*!
      The explanation at 21:06 kinda touches on it, because it hints that the derivative of different exponentials would mean a different rate of change around the unit circle, meaning that Euler's formula only works for e. That said, he still didn't elaborate on it enough I think.
      Edit: If you do the derivative with 2^x instead of e^x, you get i(ln(2)2^(i*t)) which might be the explanation we were looking for! Because the factor in the derivative is converted into a factor in the velocity around the circle. This explains the angle we get if we use 2^x instead of e^x, as well as e^x is special.

    • @pocikprostoi7172
      @pocikprostoi7172 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      +

  • @tony0000
    @tony0000 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Probably the best you anyone can do at explaining it. I still suffered the predictable "This is totally trivial" to "This is totally confusing" transformation, but with multiple viewings, it may occur later and later.

  • @willh9104
    @willh9104 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic video. I dealt a lot with group theory in inorganic and quantum chemistry - this was a much better refresher than going through my old notes!

  • @ZardoDhieldor
    @ZardoDhieldor 7 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    0:48 "so here, two years later" *whince* This much time already? D:
    After checking, I'm relieved, that for me at least, it's only a little bit more than one year. But still, time passes! :/

    • @3blue1brown
      @3blue1brown  7 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      You're telling me. I just kept thinking "2 years? That can't be right, surely that's not right".

    • @sofia.eris.bauhaus
      @sofia.eris.bauhaus 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      for me it was more like: _only_ 2 years? this channel feels like such a classic and is has so many great things in it already.. :D

    • @KevinHallSurfing
      @KevinHallSurfing 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Odd how your vocalization has slowed slightly over two years. Is the aging process exponential or linear? Will your voice be twice as slow in another 2 years or slowed to a barely audible rumble? ;-))
      Wish we had vids this back in the Sixties. Nice!

  • @torinstorkey
    @torinstorkey 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is Euler's identity. Euler's formula is e^θi = cos(θ)+i sin(θ)

  • @MrCTruck
    @MrCTruck 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    13:14 it clicked so profoundly I actually uttered "oh shit"

  • @tinyawka
    @tinyawka 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I left a couple tech universities 15 years ago because I couldn't understand calculus, then in a while started my programming career, and always thought I wouldn't ever understand such high materials as why multiplying by vector must work like that. Now I finally do.

  • @danny80268
    @danny80268 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Diff EQ class led me to your channel while looking for a certain integral. Even though that did not help that search, I have been interested ever since. Mostly because a lot of the math you cover is something I have seen or think I will see in the future. It's also because you explain everything so well. After watching certain videos I was confident enough to complete some practice problems I have never studied. That's due to good teaching from these videos.

  • @philipgottschalk8713
    @philipgottschalk8713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for the great video. Do you have a video where you explain the minutes 19.30-20.30min in more detail? I.e. where is 2 to the i in the complex plane? How do we calculate 0.693 radiant rotation? And maybe as an add-on, how would we calculate the zeta function of a random complex number like 2+3i?

    • @reevegarrett8412
      @reevegarrett8412 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is the one and only part of this video that bothered me. He really should have said "about .693, or, more exactly ln(2)." That part comes from the Chain Rule from Calculus. The 1.609 is similarly ln(5).

  • @luisdias5246
    @luisdias5246 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    You lost me when you brought up exponentials in, I can't see the relation between the top and bottom at 17:21

    • @pyrodynamic4144
      @pyrodynamic4144 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Three years later, but here's how I understood it. I don't think there's necessarily a direct relation between the operations themselves, meaning a way to deduce the operation that must be performed below by seeing the operation performed above, but what happens is:
      On the top, you slide by whatever the power is. So if the power is 3, you slide by 3. If it's -1, you slide by -1.
      On the bottom, you squish by 2 to the respective power. So if it's -1, you stretch by 2^(-1)=0.5. If it's 3, you stretch by 2^3=8. This is because exponentiation is repeated multiplication, so if you raise 2 to the third power, it's the same as stretching by 2, then again by 2, then by 2 once more.

    • @cliffordwilliam3714
      @cliffordwilliam3714 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isn't it trying to say that both additive and multiplicative actions have similar result for the same expression? Sliding 1 unit left and then 2 unit right lands on the number 1. Squish by 0.5 and then stretch by 4 lands on number 1 also right?

    • @youtubecensorpolice9112
      @youtubecensorpolice9112 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cliffordwilliam3714 If you start the arrow on 0, squishing and stretching by any amount shouldn't move the arrow away from 0. I don't understand at all what he's trying to get at in that part of the video.

  • @UndyingEDM
    @UndyingEDM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent video though I have some questions. I understand how we get a transformation of rotation simply because a new axis of numbers perpendicular to the real number-line exists. I mean, something like 2 + 3i (or any real number plus something "i" other than zero) would be associated to two additive actions for each axis or one action using rotation. What I do not quite understand though, is how can we calculate that 2*x for x=i would equal 0.693 radians (check 19:36). I'm not sure if I missed anything but I'd love to better understand exactly how an imaginary number input will translate to an output in the complex plane given an exponential function. I might not have the time now but if I look into this more in the future and find something I'll make sure to update this comment.

    • @felixacool
      @felixacool 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      exactly the same doubt here

    • @UndyingEDM
      @UndyingEDM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@felixacool And yet after 7 months, still no answer..

    • @paradox9551
      @paradox9551 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is exactly what I was wondering! There's no real intuition! It's just fuzzy assumptions.

    • @guilhermebotelho1615
      @guilhermebotelho1615 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah! I also share this doubt. The video is great, but this one step is not clear enough I think.
      The explanation at 21:06 kinda touches on it, because it hints that the derivative of different exponentials would mean a different rate of change around the unit circle, meaning that Euler's formula only works for e. That said, he still didn't elaborate on it enough I think.
      Edit: If you do the derivative with 2^x instead of e^x, you get i(ln(2)2^(i*t)) which might be the explanation we were looking for! Because the factor in the derivative is converted into a factor in the velocity around the circle. This explains the angle we get if we use 2^x instead of e^x, as well as e^x is special.

  • @cubicmetre
    @cubicmetre 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's amazing contrasting my understanding of this video last year before I started uni to just now where I literally just got home from a maths lecture explaining these complex numbers. I immediately recognized the content from the lecture being in this video. So first thing when I get home, study 3 blue 1 brown.

  • @mercygains
    @mercygains 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The extent with which you can wrap my brain around some of these identities and concepts is SO WORTH a commercial or two.
    THANK YOU for feeding my visual learning preference. I am teaching myself Data Science and Machine Learning along with AnimateCC (Flash :) I have been trying to recreate the animation in my head as I learn - fascinating.

  • @rogeroney3
    @rogeroney3 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Does this mean the vertical axis of the additive group undergoes modulus arithmetic when its transformed? Like with e as the base, a vertical transformation of 2pi maps to a 360 degree turn, or the same as doing nothing? Do you "lose" information then when this is done?

    • @zairaner1489
      @zairaner1489 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Wow thats a pretty good catch. Indeed if you look back at the group of rotations of the square, this group is the same as the integers modulo 4, and the circle group (group of all rotations) is just the Real numbers modulo 2*Pi.
      The loss of information you describe comes from the fact that exp(2*Pi*i*k)=1 for all integer k, so multiple points are mapped to 1 (adn thus multiple points are mapped to any point).
      In general, "loss of information" like this are so important they are described through the fundamental theorem on homomorphisms. the most important theorem of grouptheory

  • @ronalddonahue8325
    @ronalddonahue8325 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Video request! Do an intuition builder on the LaPlace transform!

  • @Maurycy5
    @Maurycy5 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I am still confused. All is good until 19:00, where we jump to exponentiating by complex numbers.
    What was covered: adding as shifting and multiplying as stretching. Also, exponentiating by WHOLE numbers as translating a shift to a multiplication.
    But we still do not know how to exponentiate by all real numbers, not to mention complex numbers.
    Did I miss something?

    • @bernardkho
      @bernardkho 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      agreed, got stuck at the same point

    • @MithileshHinge
      @MithileshHinge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Me too, got stuck there. Why does exponentiation by complex number correspond to rotation of the plane? It can be verified mathematically, but I'm not getting the intuition behind it.

    • @absurdengineering
      @absurdengineering 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can think of exponentiation by reals as a way of turning a discrete function into a continuous one - it still has to go through the same discrete points. That can be one starting point towards understanding. It turns out that when you do a series expansion of a real exponential then it usually works just fine in the complex domain, and you can then look up the sine and cosine in the same series expansion and you’ll see the Euler’s formula that way as well. Again: that’s just one of many approaches. But going from discrete to continuous exponentials requires a better definition of an exponential than the elementary one - whether you look at a series expansion or something involving logarithms doesn’t quite matter.

    • @tonylopez5937
      @tonylopez5937 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He didn't actually explain it, he just asserted it. At 18:49 he said "So wouldn't you agree that it would be *reasonable* for this new dimension of additive actions, slides up and down, to map directly to this new dimension of multiplicative actions, pure rotations?"
      I completely understand how multiplying by 2^(real number) will stretch the space, but he never said why multiplying by 2^i would rotate it, he just made a comparison to how multiplying by i made the space rotate. I agree with @Mithilesh Hinge, I can see it algebraically, using Euler's formula ( e^ix = cos( x ) + i sin( x ) ), but I don't get the same intuitive feel as Grant/3B1B provided for how multiplying by a complex number can rotate a space in the complex plane.
      Can someone give an intuitive, geometric reason as to why 2^i causes a rotation? Maybe there isn't one, which is acceptable, but I was hoping for something as elegant as his earlier explanation of rotations due to multiplying by complex numbers.
      And, as some others have mentioned, even if 2^i = 0.769 + 0.639 i, that looks like a stretch and a rotation, which is not the "pure rotation" he mentioned.
      Otherwise, though, this video is wonderful. 😊

    • @Ishwar_Das
      @Ishwar_Das 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tonylopez5937 if you multiply the complex number z= r*exp(it) by the complex number exp(ix), you get r*exp(i(t+x)). You are just rotating z by x radians because the angles add. The author of the video is not explaining what is really happening here. He is assuming Euler’s formula and the polar form of a complex number. He is just saying that the image of pi*i under the exponential map (homomorphism) is -1 because Euler’s formula is true. His graphics are nice, but he is not using group theory to explain why Euler’s formula is true. So the title of this video is a bit misleading.

  • @stefanoctaviansterea1266
    @stefanoctaviansterea1266 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We need a series for Essence of Group Theory. Students in high school are taught this subject in a purely numerical and definitional way, nothing to give them intuition or any representation of what they learn about at all. Everything is just symbolic algebra thing without sense, created to torture students. We need light like this in a dark educational system.

  • @jb_kc__
    @jb_kc__ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Finally the intuition of Euler's formula clicked... much love man you are a credit to society

  • @frother
    @frother 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    18:51 "so wouldn't you agree that [completely unjustified leap in an argument that relies 100% on intuition]?"

    • @paradox9551
      @paradox9551 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Completely agreed. It's so stupid how we just jump to that conclusion and then make more assumptions based on that with no explanations given.

  • @mohithraju2629
    @mohithraju2629 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    18:00 I Don't seem understand to how Grant(3b1b) is relating the two groups. I would highly appreciate it if someone helped me to understand the correlation. thank you

    • @Josh-tn2wg
      @Josh-tn2wg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mohith S N Raju all it means is that given the two actions, the result is the same for these two groups (so in this case -1 and 2 give the same result (but different paths to get to them, which is of course to be expected))

  • @mina86
    @mina86 7 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Coincidentally, I just got my Tau t-shirt in mail…

    • @ZardoDhieldor
      @ZardoDhieldor 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Tau FTW! :D

    • @dev02ify
      @dev02ify 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Tau makes everything better except for euler's formula.
      e^(Ti/2)=-1
      D:
      I guess you could write e^Ti = 1

    • @SirBastian200
      @SirBastian200 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      e^(Ti) = 1
      :D

    • @SuperBonobob
      @SuperBonobob 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Tau makes Euler's formula much better: e^(i*τ) = 1

    • @LoLrand0mness
      @LoLrand0mness 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i lately pondered about this e^Ti = 1
      i've put this formula into the "triangle of power" and that kinda confuses me...
      example of my inline notation:
      (2^3\8) -> 2^3=8, 3\8=2, 2_8=3
      now to my confusion:
      (e^Ti\1) -> this would conclude:
      e_1=Ti, but also there is:
      e_1=0
      -> Ti=0 ?!?! i surely must have made some mistake...
      e^i != e^|R (?) -> a different action, that i can't simply "equal" (?)

  • @CalculatedRiskAK
    @CalculatedRiskAK 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just rewatched the old video before this one, and oh my goodness. The sound quality is incomparable between them. Still loving your videos. Keep it up!

  • @saltrocklamp199
    @saltrocklamp199 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Essence of Abstract Algebra incoming?! I've spent the last 10 years of my life thinking groups were just "what would happen if we deleted some axioms." I never got this kind of intuition for groups in my college class. Thank you as always!