Can we take a minute and give Tyler a round of applause 👏 for shooting 5 years worth of videos in his uninsulated garage for our entertainment purposes. What a hero.
@ashley richards you know, I've always wondered if he actually owned his house, or had roomies, or lived with his parents, or what. I don't think it's ever been said, at least not in the year or so that I've been watching. If it is his parent's horse, then they're pretty cool for letting him take over the garage lol
as a electrician that also studied sound engineering and did live audio, this was so funny because I've been there so many times in so many times. Once a flicking street light outside made me loose half a day switching equipment inside. BTW the nerd reason is ground loops, but getting to the root of those problems is better left to people with better paygrades and most of the time the solution is new wiring of the whole place. For dynamic mics, cloudlifters are the best easy solution to basically put down the noise floor, and nowadays 32bit interfaces also make the process easier to bury those noises
I'd try connecting a price of wire from the housing of the light to a stake driven into soil. NOT to the wiring just the metal housing on the outside. If it's not metal then have someone who is knowledgeable to add better grounding to the circuit. I had the issue with a diy solution to a diffused stage light for streaming. I had it again with a printer power cable that was touching my XLR out of my mic. If that solution doesn't solve the issue you can either have it rewired or find a better way to shield your recording equipment. If it's ac powered equipment try a power conditioner if it battery then just finding a way to shield equipment might work.
Man i jus think its kool you take the time to ... Not only share .... But help other people without being embarrassed and hiding it .. Mad respect Tyler.... 🏅🔥💯
I'll take this moment to thank Tyler for his hours of troubleshooting with the microphone to improve his viewer experience. It just shows how much he actually cares for his content and what he puts out into the world regardless if its filmed in his whacky garage.
I used to work for a company that ran sound for bands. One church carnival, we had a terrible buzzing issue. We tried to track it down for like 3 hours. Replaced all XLR cables, all mics. All stage monitors…. Turned out. The main power supply they loaned us from the church, had a popcorn maker sharing the outlet. That popcorn maker was somehow causing the buzz… 🤦🏻♂️
Might be a good idea to check if your garage panel is properly bonded to ground. I have encountered rf noise because of improper bonding many times. The problem could even be in your light as some people do not properly wire outdoor lights to ground. If ground and neutral are together led lights tend to make noise as well
I was a live audio guy for years, so this is up my alley. 9 times out of 10, a buzz or whine in an audio feed is either a bad ground or interference from a light. LEDs use ballasts to power them and rapidly pulse on and off using Power Width Modulation, or PWM. The PWM controls how many flickers per second the LED will have, and that flicker control (aka hertz) creates an electrical signal that interferes with radio equipment. Same reason AM radio goes insane during a thunderstorm or under high voltage powerlines. The sheer amount of electrical signal is overpowering.
It's not embarrassing that it took you so long to find this! So many people run into issues with interference caused by lights, and specifically it's cheaper LED lights that cause this problem. They're really electrically noisy and can put out a MASSIVE amount of interference to audio gear, walkie talkies, and radios. It takes professional engineers hours to track this kind of stuff down sometimes!
Reminds me of when I'm listening to my shortwave radio inside the house and there's less interference when I'm holding it in my hand, compared to just having it standing on its own.
The problem with the kind of cables most people use (as opposed to pro cables) is they have a thin core and poor (if any shielding) so effectively act like an antenna and will pick up all kinds of junk - especially if something has poor grounding. A very simple solution that works most of the time is to use a ferrite choke. They are very cheap and you can get snap on ones that just clip over the cable or rings that you just loop the cable through.
In the Air Force I worked on Avionics on C-130 cargo aircraft. In the shop you could see the 60 hertz from electrical outlets when the sensitivity was turned up on oscilloscopes. The closer you got the better you could see it. Unshielded and or ungrounded shielded wires would pick up all kinds of electrical noise. We also maintained cords for for connecting headsets as well. Sizes ranged from 8 ft to 100 ft. The longer ones were sometimes used to connect people outside the aircraft to people inside, for ground maintenance and engine startups. There were occasionally times when people had these long ones rolled up into a loop and they would pick up AM radio stations.
I ran into a similar but what felt like even more bizarre scenario (to me) years ago. I was watching stuff on my laptop in a library with corded earbuds. At some point I noticed I could hear people talking in the background so I’m going crazy trying to locate this tab that’s playing the audio. Eventually I get to the point there is not a single program open on my computer literally no conceivable place this audio could be coming from. Leading to research where I eventually figure out through some perfect storm I had ended up picking up a local radio station localized entirely within my earbuds despite their obvious lack of a radio receiver or true antenna. There was definitely a moment where I considered the possibility of spontaneously developed schizophrenia 😂
Great video Tyler!🤘🏽 it’s nice to see some behind the scenes action and you explaining some of the issues you have to over come to film! Talk about the process of elimination! 😅
I promise you you’re not crazy. I work for Comcast on the maintenance side. We’ve tracked issues where customers smart thermostats can take out entire sub divisions. It’s so hard to find stuff like that
If it's an older dusk-dawn light, the circuit or relay could be starting to fail, or the bulb, depending on type of bulb it has. Change it out or check the wiring in it.
Having worked with live audio and stage production for many years, it sounds like a shielding or grounding issue. Most 3.5mm "extension" cables are designed to extend headphones and devices on the OUTPUT side of the audio chain. Your microphone is on the INPUT side of the audio chain. Be sure the cable has the proper shielding for the purpose. Most of the "headphone" extension cables are designed with a common and 2 hot (left and right) wires. That common wire is not a proper, braided shield needed for a microphone. Also, as alluded to in a prior comment, double check the neutral and ground connection on the outdoor light, to the breaker panel and if the garage breaker panel is actually a sub panel check ITS connections to the main. If you actually have a floating neutral it could be a very dangerous (possibly lethal) situation.
Working in the garage door industry we learned that l.e.d. bulbs interfere with garage door openers .. if thats the type of bulb u have in that fixture id try changing to incandescent..might work
I wonder if you could shield the cables using those magnets you sometimes see on cables. They can eliminate noise sometimes. I don’t know what they eliminate exactly, but I’d say it’s worth a shot trying those magnets.
My dad is a home inspector and handyman. He told me he's seen garage lights cause interference with wireless garage door openers. Halfway through this story I was thinking about that, but was still a bit surprised that was it!
When tracking down sounds that are very high pitched or hard to hear (or to verify you're not crazy), I use an audio spectrogram app on my phone which makes it easy to track down sounds.
Try running a wire from the bottom of the mic where it mounts in the camera to the camera mount. It's probably a ground thing like others said and I bet that would get rid of the problem since mounting it did.
Tyler. This is why in all electronic problems the first thing you do is power off/on. If that doesn't work.. take the battery out if you can and back in. If that doesn't work. New batteries. 99% of the time the problem is fixed by turning something on and off again 🤣
I wondered if the noise was from an old lightbulb. The buzzing sounded like an old fluorescent bulb buzz that usually happens when the bulb or light unit start to get too worn down. To make the noise go away, Tyler/ his mom (whoever owns the property) will have to have that light looked at and repaired/replaced.
we had a neutral wire (white wire) come loose from florescent shop light, causing a bunch of static with our shop radio, drove us nuts! We thought it was solar flares or something and needed to put tin foil hats on. But all it was, was just a lose wire nut lol
Just in case you use fluorescent lights in your garage they will emit a buzzing noise that the mics could be picking up. It’s possible it’s not the mics but instead the lights that you don’t actively hear until you listen back on the recording.
Electro magnetic frequencies! Only know that because ghost hunting shows haha. And I have an email meter and when it's close to a light switch that's on it freaks out, anything with electric power.
It's static. Some electrical boxes, or electricity in general creates a static energy around it. Your light is probably creating a static electricity or a frequency. Also some lights or power boxes make a high pitched frequency with some can not be picked up by human ears but maybe the microphone is picking it up
Yeah thats a 60 Hz hum... my parents house has a dimmer rheostat that I dont think is properly grounded. It sometimes causes my guitar amps to hum like that. When I turn off the breaker for that room it goes away.
Rumor has it that in an alternate timeline Tyler never again released videos because after weeks of not finding a cause he literally turned into a crazy person.
I knew a case of where a fluorescent light in a lamp was causing the TV in the living room to randomly turn on during the night. Somehow the IR light the CFL bulb was emitting was the right code the TV Remote used and the TV thought the CFL bulb was the remote asking the TV to turn on.
We've been having a similar issue where having the lights on in the room is causing a feedback/buzz to come out of our guitar amp and even causes the tv to flicker a little when turning the lights on and off. It's really weird and also very frustrating to find a fix without rewiring the whole place.
So, you are using what is called an unbalanced setup. By using a mic that doesn’t go through an interface or preamp, and uses a mono plug, you’re picking up a hum called a ground loop. If you used an interface that had a balanced setup, where you would need a balanced microphone which uses what looks like a stereo or XLR cable even though it’s just one channel. The extra channel helps cancel out any noise. It would have caught this hmm from the light. Also, using a power conditioner on a dedicated circuit would help. Awesome vids, as always.
and that is Why "professional" studio lights and other equipment is so crazy expensive . should not create buzz on mic, should not flicker in slow motion recording and so on
Check ✔️ the wires for a loose connection... Had an electrician come out and check ✔️ my place with a radio.. every place he got static he found a short as well ..
Different bulbs run on different frequencies, try a different bulb. I do know LED bulds can interfere with WiFi and radio signals, I found this out one Christmas when I'd bought a really long string of Christmas LED lights, hung them up outside and i was left scratching my head in wonder, I couldn't connect to my outside security cameras which are Wi-Fi and battery operated, I did notice that I did get a signal from my camera during the day and my lights were switched off. The LED bulbs completely blocked the signal
The whole time I'm watching I'm thinking its either some electrical interference or someone has a piece of equipment that is causing minuscule vibration in the floor being picked up by the mic.
Can we take a minute and give Tyler a round of applause 👏 for shooting 5 years worth of videos in his uninsulated garage for our entertainment purposes. What a hero.
You mean his MUMS uninsulated garage
@ashley richards you know, I've always wondered if he actually owned his house, or had roomies, or lived with his parents, or what. I don't think it's ever been said, at least not in the year or so that I've been watching. If it is his parent's horse, then they're pretty cool for letting him take over the garage lol
@@mattblackmon503 pretty big horse if he can inhabit it lol must be a Clydesdale
In today's episode Tyler literally goes insane.
He takes us on a journey to the brink of insanity, but brings us back safely.
I’ve never been so interested into watching a guy speak upon a problem with his own audio before 💀
as a electrician that also studied sound engineering and did live audio, this was so funny because I've been there so many times in so many times. Once a flicking street light outside made me loose half a day switching equipment inside. BTW the nerd reason is ground loops, but getting to the root of those problems is better left to people with better paygrades and most of the time the solution is new wiring of the whole place. For dynamic mics, cloudlifters are the best easy solution to basically put down the noise floor, and nowadays 32bit interfaces also make the process easier to bury those noises
I'd try connecting a price of wire from the housing of the light to a stake driven into soil. NOT to the wiring just the metal housing on the outside. If it's not metal then have someone who is knowledgeable to add better grounding to the circuit. I had the issue with a diy solution to a diffused stage light for streaming. I had it again with a printer power cable that was touching my XLR out of my mic. If that solution doesn't solve the issue you can either have it rewired or find a better way to shield your recording equipment. If it's ac powered equipment try a power conditioner if it battery then just finding a way to shield equipment might work.
This video started and I was like... This is going to be a daft ground loop issue... 😂
Man i jus think its kool you take the time to ... Not only share .... But help other people without being embarrassed and hiding it .. Mad respect Tyler.... 🏅🔥💯
Tyler is a born scientist. Hypothesis, experiment, result, repeat.
When he's flipping the breaker you can see he had completely lost his mind at that point. 😂
I'll take this moment to thank Tyler for his hours of troubleshooting with the microphone to improve his viewer experience. It just shows how much he actually cares for his content and what he puts out into the world regardless if its filmed in his whacky garage.
I used to work for a company that ran sound for bands. One church carnival, we had a terrible buzzing issue. We tried to track it down for like 3 hours. Replaced all XLR cables, all mics. All stage monitors…. Turned out. The main power supply they loaned us from the church, had a popcorn maker sharing the outlet. That popcorn maker was somehow causing the buzz… 🤦🏻♂️
Might be a good idea to check if your garage panel is properly bonded to ground. I have encountered rf noise because of improper bonding many times. The problem could even be in your light as some people do not properly wire outdoor lights to ground. If ground and neutral are together led lights tend to make noise as well
As a musician I completely understand your pain and commend your dedication.
I was a live audio guy for years, so this is up my alley. 9 times out of 10, a buzz or whine in an audio feed is either a bad ground or interference from a light.
LEDs use ballasts to power them and rapidly pulse on and off using Power Width Modulation, or PWM. The PWM controls how many flickers per second the LED will have, and that flicker control (aka hertz) creates an electrical signal that interferes with radio equipment.
Same reason AM radio goes insane during a thunderstorm or under high voltage powerlines. The sheer amount of electrical signal is overpowering.
“I turned the audio up far” has me on the floor 😂
Ya his choice of words are always funny
It's not embarrassing that it took you so long to find this! So many people run into issues with interference caused by lights, and specifically it's cheaper LED lights that cause this problem. They're really electrically noisy and can put out a MASSIVE amount of interference to audio gear, walkie talkies, and radios. It takes professional engineers hours to track this kind of stuff down sometimes!
Your mechanic brain kicked back in to find the source of your problem lol
as a pizza delivery driver who has read the word electrician and musician before, I completely understand your pain and commend your dedication.
Reminds me of when I'm listening to my shortwave radio inside the house and there's less interference when I'm holding it in my hand, compared to just having it standing on its own.
the face on the testing videos like frustrated its gold
“THE BUZZ IS BACK 😳” 🤣 3:27
The problem with the kind of cables most people use (as opposed to pro cables) is they have a thin core and poor (if any shielding) so effectively act like an antenna and will pick up all kinds of junk - especially if something has poor grounding. A very simple solution that works most of the time is to use a ferrite choke. They are very cheap and you can get snap on ones that just clip over the cable or rings that you just loop the cable through.
In the Air Force I worked on Avionics on C-130 cargo aircraft. In the shop you could see the 60 hertz from electrical outlets when the sensitivity was turned up on oscilloscopes. The closer you got the better you could see it. Unshielded and or ungrounded shielded wires would pick up all kinds of electrical noise. We also maintained cords for for connecting headsets as well. Sizes ranged from 8 ft to 100 ft. The longer ones were sometimes used to connect people outside the aircraft to people inside, for ground maintenance and engine startups. There were occasionally times when people had these long ones rolled up into a loop and they would pick up AM radio stations.
Tyler's version of the episode "fly" from breaking bad 😂
Not trying to gloat but in the first minute I was like, it's the lights.
I have always had to WORST trouble with audio, so I smell what you're steppin' in.
What does it smell like? I assume either pc from a smokers home, or new laptop smell, haha
@@TechNoobsters negative haha. It’s that dried up poo that you step on outside because you think it’s a rock. So not too bad. Just aggravating.
I ran into a similar but what felt like even more bizarre scenario (to me) years ago. I was watching stuff on my laptop in a library with corded earbuds. At some point I noticed I could hear people talking in the background so I’m going crazy trying to locate this tab that’s playing the audio. Eventually I get to the point there is not a single program open on my computer literally no conceivable place this audio could be coming from. Leading to research where I eventually figure out through some perfect storm I had ended up picking up a local radio station localized entirely within my earbuds despite their obvious lack of a radio receiver or true antenna. There was definitely a moment where I considered the possibility of spontaneously developed schizophrenia 😂
I understood nothing but was so invested.
Great video Tyler!🤘🏽 it’s nice to see some behind the scenes action and you explaining some of the issues you have to over come to film! Talk about the process of elimination! 😅
Honestly the dedication to figure this out was amazing 👏🏼
This is Tyler’s version of the Breaking Bad episode “fly”
I suspected fluorescent lights causing it but the transformer on the other is much larger. Makes sense. LoL.
Man, you spent a lot of time on this, I would have given up after 10 minutes. Thanks for keeping up on the quality of the videos, bot everyone does.
Did I just watch an 11 minute video of Tyler trying to find out why there’s a buzzing? Yep
I promise you you’re not crazy. I work for Comcast on the maintenance side. We’ve tracked issues where customers smart thermostats can take out entire sub divisions. It’s so hard to find stuff like that
Just a light after all the hassle you went through. Wow that's a great story Tyler I bet that it drove you crazy
If it's an older dusk-dawn light, the circuit or relay could be starting to fail, or the bulb, depending on type of bulb it has. Change it out or check the wiring in it.
I've heard that electronic buzz in multiple of your videos. I'm glad you found the issue.
Having worked with live audio and stage production for many years, it sounds like a shielding or grounding issue. Most 3.5mm "extension" cables are designed to extend headphones and devices on the OUTPUT side of the audio chain. Your microphone is on the INPUT side of the audio chain. Be sure the cable has the proper shielding for the purpose. Most of the "headphone" extension cables are designed with a common and 2 hot (left and right) wires. That common wire is not a proper, braided shield needed for a microphone. Also, as alluded to in a prior comment, double check the neutral and ground connection on the outdoor light, to the breaker panel and if the garage breaker panel is actually a sub panel check ITS connections to the main. If you actually have a floating neutral it could be a very dangerous (possibly lethal) situation.
Such a great story! I am glad you able to figure it out!
Working in the garage door industry we learned that l.e.d. bulbs interfere with garage door openers .. if thats the type of bulb u have in that fixture id try changing to incandescent..might work
Smartest Tyler tech moment
The cable is a good theory. Grounding is pretty important to reduce noise or eliminate it. The ground shields the signal.
I love how he calls it BUZZ Lol😅😂. I would have called it interface lol.
I wonder if you could shield the cables using those magnets you sometimes see on cables. They can eliminate noise sometimes. I don’t know what they eliminate exactly, but I’d say it’s worth a shot trying those magnets.
My dad is a home inspector and handyman. He told me he's seen garage lights cause interference with wireless garage door openers. Halfway through this story I was thinking about that, but was still a bit surprised that was it!
When tracking down sounds that are very high pitched or hard to hear (or to verify you're not crazy), I use an audio spectrogram app on my phone which makes it easy to track down sounds.
different video but honestly I loved it just the same as all the others Tyler never stops to amaze me
Try running a wire from the bottom of the mic where it mounts in the camera to the camera mount. It's probably a ground thing like others said and I bet that would get rid of the problem since mounting it did.
Tyler, thinking he's in the Twilight zone
Awesome. Thank you. Now I have some things I can try if I have a similar issue.
This video was a real buzzkill. 😅😅😅
I love this behind the seen video.
0:53 who was that stand-in without a hat?
Tyler. This is why in all electronic problems the first thing you do is power off/on. If that doesn't work.. take the battery out if you can and back in. If that doesn't work. New batteries. 99% of the time the problem is fixed by turning something on and off again 🤣
The neutral in your electrical panel is not properly grounded. This causes noise on the wires and weird voltage issues.
FYI microphones work on very low level signals. They go through an amplifier and any noise (electrical or otherwise) will be amplified.
😂😂😂 welcome to my world 😂😂😂
Your body acts as an antenna. Radio and other signals can be transmitted though you.
I wondered if the noise was from an old lightbulb. The buzzing sounded like an old fluorescent bulb buzz that usually happens when the bulb or light unit start to get too worn down. To make the noise go away, Tyler/ his mom (whoever owns the property) will have to have that light looked at and repaired/replaced.
we had a neutral wire (white wire) come loose from florescent shop light, causing a bunch of static with our shop radio, drove us nuts! We thought it was solar flares or something and needed to put tin foil hats on. But all it was, was just a lose wire nut lol
Next experimental step would be removing the spaghetti from the paper sheets.
I see Tyler post I click I am but a simple man
💯 i feel u brother😅
Just in case you use fluorescent lights in your garage they will emit a buzzing noise that the mics could be picking up. It’s possible it’s not the mics but instead the lights that you don’t actively hear until you listen back on the recording.
has that light been there the hole time? just a weird problem, glad you figured it out
Literally just thought it was the buzz I always have
Hahaha this only got funnier as it went thank you for sharing this ordeal with us
Electro magnetic frequencies! Only know that because ghost hunting shows haha. And I have an email meter and when it's close to a light switch that's on it freaks out, anything with electric power.
At least you figured it out patiently
It's static. Some electrical boxes, or electricity in general creates a static energy around it. Your light is probably creating a static electricity or a frequency. Also some lights or power boxes make a high pitched frequency with some can not be picked up by human ears but maybe the microphone is picking it up
Sounds like ground loop interference. Try plugging your recording devices into a different outlet on a different breaker.
Yeah thats a 60 Hz hum... my parents house has a dimmer rheostat that I dont think is properly grounded. It sometimes causes my guitar amps to hum like that. When I turn off the breaker for that room it goes away.
Inspector Tyler made it.
Rumor has it that in an alternate timeline Tyler never again released videos because after weeks of not finding a cause he literally turned into a crazy person.
Tyler sounds like a skytsophrenic that thinks people are in his walls.
yeah magnetic shielding is faulty thanx to a law that says that all electronics should accept interference... its written on the box lol
I knew a case of where a fluorescent light in a lamp was causing the TV in the living room to randomly turn on during the night. Somehow the IR light the CFL bulb was emitting was the right code the TV Remote used and the TV thought the CFL bulb was the remote asking the TV to turn on.
Tyler Man absolutely love your channel
Thanks Tyler!
Oh shit, impressed you got to the bottom of it. Have my degree in audio/video production and I would've probably gave up way before you lol
We've been having a similar issue where having the lights on in the room is causing a feedback/buzz to come out of our guitar amp and even causes the tv to flicker a little when turning the lights on and off. It's really weird and also very frustrating to find a fix without rewiring the whole place.
This reminded me of the fly episode of breaking bad lol
Simply have the garage burn down ""accidentally", then build a new one. If that doesnt work jail might be getter insulated to not cause issues.
So, you are using what is called an unbalanced setup. By using a mic that doesn’t go through an interface or preamp, and uses a mono plug, you’re picking up a hum called a ground loop.
If you used an interface that had a balanced setup, where you would need a balanced microphone which uses what looks like a stereo or XLR cable even though it’s just one channel. The extra channel helps cancel out any noise. It would have caught this hmm from the light. Also, using a power conditioner on a dedicated circuit would help. Awesome vids, as always.
and that is Why "professional" studio lights and other equipment is so crazy expensive . should not create buzz on mic, should not flicker in slow motion recording and so on
Try adding a ground wire to the mic stand. That should fix the problem.
i had similar kinda problem with electric quitar amp and the problem was that the outlet was not grounded properly
Check ✔️ the wires for a loose connection... Had an electrician come out and check ✔️ my place with a radio.. every place he got static he found a short as well ..
Different bulbs run on different frequencies, try a different bulb.
I do know LED bulds can interfere with WiFi and radio signals, I found this out one Christmas when I'd bought a really long string of Christmas LED lights, hung them up outside and i was left scratching my head in wonder, I couldn't connect to my outside security cameras which are Wi-Fi and battery operated, I did notice that I did get a signal from my camera during the day and my lights were switched off.
The LED bulbs completely blocked the signal
The whole time I'm watching I'm thinking its either some electrical interference or someone has a piece of equipment that is causing minuscule vibration in the floor being picked up by the mic.
Lol, you rock man
dammit you trolled me in um 7 mins
I’m glad you apologized for the condition of the garage because I wouldn’t have watched the video if you hadn’t. Unacceptable…
Should have just Google searched it...
You are crazy, I didn't hear a buzz.
You should try every flavor of ice breaker mints
get a ground loop filter, and you will be fine
Did you get rid of that outlet? 😂 You sould had asked me .... Not!! Just joking ❤️
Tyler Without A Hat!
well, you kinda did guess it when you mentioned electronics being the cause...but yeah that would drive me nuts!
Me watching the whole video to see where the sound was coming from.
It’s like the old cell phone and microwaves