I love Sea to Summit products and for a 6.2 R value 200 bucks is worth every penny as you're lying on the frozen ground in a Sierra Nevada campsite. I weigh 230 lbs and a side sleeper. I have never felt the ground beneath me. Great review, Luke.
I just added this to my Amazon cart. Planning to test it out this season. Hopefully I'll remember to leave a comment here when spring rolls around. Lol
We love this pad, have been using it for over 2 years and have experienced no issues in regards to quality or comfort. Live and play in nothern Minnesota so we have used it in all temps and weather conditions. I agree if your looking to go light, take another pad, but if weight is not an issue take this one. Thanks for the reviews and videos Luke!
Glad to hear. My only winter camping has been at Split Rock just off the shore. I used an old thermarest with a nearly 40yro REI -20 bag and was "ok." I would like to do winter camping again, and this pad seems like the ticket to comfort.
I have the rectangular one and use it all year round. With warmer weather I have made a slip from a sheet to slip the pad in to avoid sticking to it. Excellent comfort and warm combined with my down quilt.
Hi Luke, loving the reviews, I've had the large wide for close to a year and as a side sleeper I love it, well worth the bulk and weight, FYI, the 3M patches are for the pillow lock system and if you turn the pump bag inside out it has a smaller nozzle for pumping up S2S pillows, keep up the good work, your the best on the net.
@@dalem4591I know it's been two years since you asked your question, but I have an answer for you: I would go with what I bought, which is a Zenbivy "light" fitted sheet. Then later on you can upgrade and buy the Zenbivy "light" quilt. My personal pic is the 10° black/blue colored "light" quilt in the large size (so that you can pull it up over your head and it's wide as well), the fitted sheet, and the compressible waterproof stuff sack that fits the entire sleep system. I have never slept warmer, including in my home. For me it was a life-changing sleep system purchase
Noise is not a con! You don't even hear it because you are now on a comfy pad. I have this pad. It's AMAZING and by far the best sleeping pad out there!
I have both the thermarest and the wide sea summit. Love the Sea Summit. Camped in Yosemite 35 degrees absolutely no issues with cold. Also side sleeper and didn't feel the ground. I weigh 220 lbs.
Great review as always, thanks Luke. Ive been using one of these for a couple multiday trekkings through swedish mountains now. No issues so far. I didn’t notice any noice. The comfort is just awsome. Sleep just like home… to me, worth every penny. Keep it up Luke!
I had it for one trip. I found it comfy while laying on it at home but ended up getting center back pain from it. I would have to deflate it quite a bit to relieve the pressure. I do like the shape but didn’t work for my back. I switched to the Big Agnes Rapide and I do like it a bit better.
Sounds legit that the tighter the inner insulation is to the outer sheathing that it will insulate better because it doesn’t allow air in between! Thermal shirts have always been the same! If it’s loose, it allows cold air between the shirt and your skin! When it stays firm to your skin, it traps the body heat and reflects it back to you! Great review, Luke! Thanks!
Outstanding review yet again Luke . No nonsense straight to the point ! Love that you gave your opinion in comparison to the Xtherm . Greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪 Atb Tony
I'm using it in Argentina now. It's comfortable but unfortunately developed a leak my first week of using it. Not in a position to repair it so just blow it back up every 6-8 hrs. Hopefully that'll do until I get home.
I bought this last December and it's awesome indeed. Didn't use it for winter camping yet but only down to around 0-5 Celsius. Very comfortable and easy to fill with the provided bag.
Noise doesn't bug me, hell I'm lucky if the siren alarm on my phone wakes me haha. The size can be easily side stepped, just string it to the outer webbing on your pack and save the inside room. Looks great for side sleepers like me who HATE their shoulder/hip bottoming out.
Hi Luke, Thanks for the excellent review of this sleeping mat. I have the Rectangular Wide (RW) Version and I just got back from a 3 day/2 night winter hike with overnight temperatures getting down to 0 degrees Celsius. This mat is the ultimate in comfort and I never felt the cold from the ground. This mat is probably the closest thing to sleeping in my bed at home while camping. My friend was sleeping on the Thermarest Neoair Xtherm Long (R value 6.9) and he too said he had a very warm and comfortable sleep. It would have been really interesting to swap sleeping mats on second night for the purpose of comparison but my friend being over 6 foot needed the extra length. I didn't notice the noise the mat makes when moving around. I would say the two cons for this mat are (as you said): 1. The volume (it takes up a lot of space in the pack) and 2. the weight (the rectangular wide is almost 1kg in weight) I don't know how comfortable the Neoair Xtherm is to sleep on but if it is just as comfortable as the S2S Etherlight XT Extreme than it would win out on considerations of weight and volume. But here in Australia the Etherlight is about $300 while the Xtherm is $450 so if someone can't justify spending that much on a sleeping mat the Etherlight makes for an excellent cheaper (but not cheap) choice.
It looks like my big Agnes Q-core insulated pad and out of all the pads I've had and or barrowed the Q core has been the best for me. One of the he great things about sleeping pads is there are so many different types. Sooner or later you're bond to find the right fit for you. There are several places online where you can rent hiking/camping equipment. That makes for a great way to find the right fit for you before you accidentally buy the wrong one. Hope this suggestion will help someone. God bless and stay safe.
I have the Ether Light XT Women's Large mat. I found it very comfy and its size is not too big. If my backpack has room, I'll bring a thin cotton sheet (like a long pillowcase. DIY) to cover the mat. That will reduce much of the noise and gives extra protection to my mat.
I'm just getting into backpacking, I work spring to fall so had to get warm stuff... I ordered that sea to summit in rectangle long... I'll be testing gear next week so we'll so how it goes! Last few years I do truck camping under a topper, so heavy cheaper gear but made it to -15 with no problems other than condensation build after a week.
I really love my ThermaRest as I've used it in Wisconsin and Michigan in the winter and have stayed quite warm. I'll give this a try for a bit more comfort. thanks for great information. Best to you and Susan.
i have a sea to summit comfort plus and a klymit pad. klymit double packs to nothing but hurts my back everytime i get on it. Sea to summit is quite comfortable. not a proper mattress but its 3 inches and i can side sleep with minimal pressure points and touching the deck. i really really like it. its about triple pack size as the klymit but tbh its a 25 inch pad and still packs down pretty well. not "ultra light " but also not a huge deal for short durations most people are backpack with
Thank you Luke far the agenda free reviews. I have come to trust your reviews, they always have helped me decide in what to invest my time and money in. Just ordered one for this years winter season here in Michigan's Upper Peninsula!
A good video, even if some of the comments are repeated a little too often. One thing that seems to have been missed was the dimensions and alternatives on offer. I normally use a lightweight cot which is 60cm wide and I tend to find mats to be too narrow, especially around the feet. The Ether Light XT comes in a regular length but rectangle option which seems perfect for me. While the Thermarest does come in a rectangle shape they are significantly narrower and are therefore not an option for me.
Great review, Luke! I was curious about this pad, especially for winter. I currently use the Thermarest NeoAir Xlite for 3 season, but wanted something for winter camping. I was looking into purchasing the Thermarest cot and using the pad, however the Sea to Summit pad you reviewed here looks like a better choice. Thank you!
Thanks for a great review. I've been looking for some decent reviews about this pad for some time now. I've been a fan of the Sea to Summit sleep mats for quite some time and looking at getting something for the colder winter months here in the UK.
Hey Luke always look forward to your videos, not sure how I landed on your channel, been watching since March 2022...and subscribed...it's odd that I'm not a camping fanatic but yet spend lots and lots of hours watching your honest reviews, taking pride in what you do and helping others and of course there is the double whammy Cheers to everyone ;)... Thanks again for taking the time to make these and helping the so many subscribers out there you have
In my opinion (as a rather large side sleeper) the only con really is the packed size.. good thing you've got that slick 64L osprey unltd pack 😂 I'm seriously considering getting that pack as an incentive for my at thruhike next year, only because all of my other gear minus this pad in the large rectangular would be considered "ultra light"
I'll bet Susie won't want to give up her XTherm same as MEeee for 2 reasons; #1 it's R6.9 rating & #2 the 70D fabric on the ground side of the XTherm Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada
Noise tends to give me the spooks. It’s like “Skin Walker or bear can hear me”. But then again they can hear me complain if I am cold and sore.🤣 Seriously, noise is not an issue because if I am comfy, I am sleeping. Luke thank you for this review.
I have this pad and it's by far the best iv used ever,very comfortable but you will pay for that but buy once cry once. And the inflation bag really works and well it is a big pad but sleep at least to me is most important if you don't sleep good you can't hike good
Have to check these out. Have been looking at them for awhile. I motorcycle camp, 1st priority. Storage size is always of concern. I'm big and long so wide and maybe not as thick would work. 30F would be my camp range maybe down to 20F. Like the inflation bag. At altitude that matters. I've used Thermorests for over forty years now. Great results all sized to use. Only leaks I got were in AZ dessert small cactus balls cut one. One gets into big campground without choice the sounds the sleeping pad makes won't be an issue like the farting snoring neighbors. Real world. RTW Sam
Excellent reviews all the time from you Luke! I had a self inflatable sleeping pad that was for car camping. A rescue puppy chewed up the values so I'm in need of a new sleeping pad. This one looks like it will fit the spot. One again thank you for your hard work in making these reviews! God bless you and your family!
Did they change the naming? On the sea to summit site, the ether light xt insulated is listed as a 3.2 r value, and the ether light xt extreme is listed as a 6.2 r value.
Excellent review. Thanks. If I had $200 to spare I would get one for a winter overnighter. For now I will have to stick with my 4R pad over a zip foil base to give me equivalent R value.
The S to S pads are the most comfortable on the market. I have the Tensor as well but the XT Insulated rectangular regular is my go to pad. In cold weather I use the XT Extreme but because I am vertically challenged at 5'6" I use the women's version which is also 5"6" which comes in at 24oz and packs down smaller than the men's version. Also has a slightly higher R value at 6.3. I use a different pump sack than the one provided. If you want to know the most comfortable pillow available let me know.
@@azz1azz I use the Goosefeet Gear down pillow in medium with 5oz. of down. Total weight 6.5oz. It has a sleeve so that you can put clothing in it to give it more volume. Most of the time I put my puffy in there and in essence have a 15oz. down pillow. I always take my puffy and often never use it. Now I always use it. If you want even more comfort there is a 1.5oz inflatable pillow made by a cottage company that I can't remember but you will see mentioned in other videos of this kind. You can slide it in with the jacket or use without jacket in hot weather. It will feel like your pillow from home. My sleep system is the ONLY part of my setup where I splurge in weight. My base weight is usually in the 11-12Lb. range.
I’ve only recently got back into camping. I use a cheap $40 Klymit static V non insulated pad with a $15 yoga mat with a foil emergency blanket taped to the yoga pad 😅slept multiple nights in the high 20’s Fahrenheit with no issue. Without that yoga pad / foil blanket, I did get cold. Obviously it’s not great for backpacking far, but it’s way cheaper and worked perfect. Btw I used a Carinthia defense 1 bag in my undies at 28 degrees lol no issue.
I could never get used to the noise of some of these inflatable pads I tested, so I ended up going with an Exped Dura 8r. Size for size, the Dura 8r is cheaper, lighter, quieter, warmer and is insulated with Down.
Hi Luke, thanks for your awesome review! Just bough this pad and looking forward to my next trip! I was also considering the Thermarest Xtherm but it seems that it makes so much noise that I would regret it. Also wanne use this pad for my wife in summer, and it seems far more comfortable than the Thermarest so I bought the Sea To Summit.
Can you by any chance revisit Outdoor Research's bivys and review the new award-winning Helium? and or the Alpine Ascent Shell? That Helium in Pewter, along with a Mossy Oak tarp and a little help from the local shrubbery? You could disappear like smoke! A vlog on camouflage would lend itself perfectly to the Helium and the Alpine Ascent Shell is breaking new ground in Outdoors tech as well with a warmer and more breathable(for a bivy) shell and easy-in side entrance. A rain fly coming off the front of the Helium and off the side of the Alpine Ascent Shell, would really complete both bivys, imo.
If I did more cold weather trips, I think I would invest in that pad. As for noise, if I am comfortable and warm on a pad, I really don't move around much, so noice is usually not an issue for me. Nice review, Luke.
I own this, it was my first backpacking air mat. It is too hot for where I live, but it wasnt until I tried a different brand that I realized how awesome the XT Extreme is: -the air sprung cells and 4 inches of thickness make it ultra-comfortable, compared to Exped mats for example (the other one I own) I feel like in my mattress at home. -You'll never feel the ground under you, the insulation keeps you warm as you shift or sit on it, neither have I felt the hard ground as the insulation provides enough cushion Compared to the exped mats, this is more noisy. But that never has been a problem to me even as a beginner so I'm indiferent to it. But yeah the volume is what has made me avoid using it. And the weight since as stated above I live in a pretty hot climate, so going for a no insulation mat was more comfortable for me.
You said that the pump sack is comparable to the one of a Thermarest Pad. Imho, the Pumpsack of my Thermarest Neoair X-Therm is a catastrophy. Way to small and it takes forever to inflate. Are there after market versions beside the default pump sack to which you statement is aimed? I would love a better pump sack for my Pad because otherwise it is amazing.
Good information as always, though I don't think this one's for me As a kayak camper, a proper sit inside kayak, you'd think that weight is my first concern. But over time I've learned that size is #1 and weight second, because these kayaks can float quite a bit of mass but the storage space is limited. For instance, I have a super great sleeping bag and self inflating mattress, but they just take up too much space. Because the mat is self-inflating I can't fold it length wise, only roll it up, since it can mess up the internal inflating structure. Meaning the width of the mat is set and it causes it to only just fit through the oval hatch. Same for the sleeping bag; high quality, durable, wide temperature range, and some nice features. But the volume is simply too great, even with the bag's included compression straps; it barely fits through the hatch regardless of folding and compressing.
I have the Ether Light XT Extreme Insulated (black one) and the Ether Light XT Insulated (grey one) for 3 seasons. So comfy! For a side sleeper, the 4 inches is perfect.
Hey Luke , Love the video on the sleep pad ! Quick question what is the orange watch you are wearing it looks heavy duty and dependable ? Do you like and Where can I get one of those ?
Problem I would have is I would not be able to keep it firm. I have a bad back and sleeping on anything firm will give me a lot of pain the next day. Maybe just taking a small amount of air out would be fine but would have to try it out to make sure. You mentioned that the inside prohibits mold…would that be if you only use the kit to blow it up, or will it also work if you blew it up by mouth? The moisture from your breath would go inside it with no way to dry out. What are your thoughts? Good review.
I have that pad, never been able to get a good sleep with that pad. I am a heavy guy and sleep on my side, think it would be fine if I would be a back sleeper. But it is funny that there's a lot of individual differences on how something feels and at the end of the day we all just have to try and find what will work for us. Still valuable to have these kind of videos out here to know where one might want to look.
Hi there, for the noise factor, when compared to the Thermarest, are they comparable? Is the Seatosummit a lot louder or close? Just trying to get a feel comparing the two pads.
I've had my XT Extreme for over a year now. It's a great pad and I just can't bring myself to try something else. The inflation sack/valve system really is excellent. The comfort is excellent, no doubt about it. The noise doesn't bother me and I'm not sure why it bothers others. I have the regular wide and plan to get the regular mummy now that I have a Thermarest Questar. I'm just not using the full width of the pad so I'll cut half a pound roughly and slightly reduced packed size. That will offset the slightly larger diameter of the Questar over my old summer bag and drop a full pound of weight from my pack. Another benefit is the slightly narrower pad should fit properly in the pad straps on the Questar to hold it in place. The wide XT extreme is a little too tight. I'm also ditching the aeros ultralight deluxe large pillow for the regular. The large is great but 16" wide which pushes my feet off the end of the pad. The regular is 10" and will solve that. My ultimate comfort sleep system is nearly complete!
Thanks for the video Luke. Have a question for ya. Would a winter (higher r-value) sleeping pad be too warm to use in the summer. I have the XTherm and find it very comfy but concerned it might be too warm for the hot and sticky nights here in Virginia. Thanks again for the awesome videos!
Used in coastal Tasmania during winter, below freezing & loved life,
I love Sea to Summit products and for a 6.2 R value 200 bucks is worth every penny as you're lying on the frozen ground in a Sierra Nevada campsite. I weigh 230 lbs and a side sleeper. I have never felt the ground beneath me. Great review, Luke.
Got my Reg-Wide coming for £189 soon :)
how's your pad holding up?
I just added this to my Amazon cart. Planning to test it out this season. Hopefully I'll remember to leave a comment here when spring rolls around. Lol
We love this pad, have been using it for over 2 years and have experienced no issues in regards to quality or comfort. Live and play in nothern Minnesota so we have used it in all temps and weather conditions. I agree if your looking to go light, take another pad, but if weight is not an issue take this one. Thanks for the reviews and videos Luke!
Glad to hear. My only winter camping has been at Split Rock just off the shore. I used an old thermarest with a nearly 40yro REI -20 bag and was "ok." I would like to do winter camping again, and this pad seems like the ticket to comfort.
I have the rectangular one and use it all year round. With warmer weather I have made a slip from a sheet to slip the pad in to avoid sticking to it. Excellent comfort and warm combined with my down quilt.
There's always a good work around for people who think outside the box. Kudo
Excellent review Luke, I've just bought one of these and this was exactly what I needed to know.
Hi Luke, loving the reviews, I've had the large wide for close to a year and as a side sleeper I love it, well worth the bulk and weight, FYI, the 3M patches are for the pillow lock system and if you turn the pump bag inside out it has a smaller nozzle for pumping up S2S pillows, keep up the good work, your the best on the net.
Recommend putting the pad inside a sleeping bag liner, cuts the noise down and adds a little more comfort.
Exactly what I do Simon, works a treat.
Recommendations on a liner that fits snug over a 4 inch thick 25x72 pad?
@@dalem4591 I have various mats but my liner is for a pod sleeping bag, oval in shape. I have some shock cord loops which takes up the slack.
@@dalem4591I know it's been two years since you asked your question, but I have an answer for you: I would go with what I bought, which is a Zenbivy "light" fitted sheet. Then later on you can upgrade and buy the Zenbivy "light" quilt. My personal pic is the 10° black/blue colored "light" quilt in the large size (so that you can pull it up over your head and it's wide as well), the fitted sheet, and the compressible waterproof stuff sack that fits the entire sleep system. I have never slept warmer, including in my home. For me it was a life-changing sleep system purchase
Noise is not a con! You don't even hear it because you are now on a comfy pad. I have this pad. It's AMAZING and by far the best sleeping pad out there!
I have both the thermarest and the wide sea summit. Love the Sea Summit. Camped in Yosemite 35 degrees absolutely no issues with cold. Also side sleeper and didn't feel the ground. I weigh 220 lbs.
Great review as always, thanks Luke. Ive been using one of these for a couple multiday trekkings through swedish mountains now. No issues so far. I didn’t notice any noice. The comfort is just awsome. Sleep just like home… to me, worth every penny. Keep it up Luke!
I had it for one trip. I found it comfy while laying on it at home but ended up getting center back pain from it. I would have to deflate it quite a bit to relieve the pressure. I do like the shape but didn’t work for my back. I switched to the Big Agnes Rapide and I do like it a bit better.
I love that you exist Luke, Inspired me to start doing more outdoor camping! Love your videosss rain and snow ones are so sick
Absolutely LOVE mine ! I used it all last winter on many overnights and its been great ! Reviewed it as well.
Sounds legit that the tighter the inner insulation is to the outer sheathing that it will insulate better because it doesn’t allow air in between! Thermal shirts have always been the same! If it’s loose, it allows cold air between the shirt and your skin! When it stays firm to your skin, it traps the body heat and reflects it back to you!
Great review, Luke! Thanks!
My favourite sleeping mat I've ever owned and this review was part of my due diligence before purchasing. Thanks Luke 👍
WOW... looks GREAT Luke. Thanks... Just finished my coffee with LUKE... always a good time. Peace and be safe !
You called it right. We have four of them and like them a lot. Great for cold conditions as well.
Outstanding review yet again Luke . No nonsense straight to the point ! Love that you gave your opinion in comparison to the Xtherm . Greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪 Atb Tony
Tack!
Thank you very much my friend Henrik, I appreciate the support.
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I'm using it in Argentina now. It's comfortable but unfortunately developed a leak my first week of using it. Not in a position to repair it so just blow it back up every 6-8 hrs. Hopefully that'll do until I get home.
I bought this last December and it's awesome indeed. Didn't use it for winter camping yet but only down to around 0-5 Celsius. Very comfortable and easy to fill with the provided bag.
I’ve heard that from a few hikers and now you, now im convinced.
I purchased one last year at REI and its awesome plus the noise isn't an issue for me
Love and support from Greece my friend
Noise doesn't bug me, hell I'm lucky if the siren alarm on my phone wakes me haha. The size can be easily side stepped, just string it to the outer webbing on your pack and save the inside room. Looks great for side sleepers like me who HATE their shoulder/hip bottoming out.
Luke your reviews have saved us many dollars. Thank you.
Hi Luke,
Thanks for the excellent review of this sleeping mat. I have the Rectangular Wide (RW) Version and I just got back from a 3 day/2 night winter hike with overnight temperatures getting down to 0 degrees Celsius. This mat is the ultimate in comfort and I never felt the cold from the ground. This mat is probably the closest thing to sleeping in my bed at home while camping. My friend was sleeping on the Thermarest Neoair Xtherm Long (R value 6.9) and he too said he had a very warm and comfortable sleep. It would have been really interesting to swap sleeping mats on second night for the purpose of comparison but my friend being over 6 foot needed the extra length.
I didn't notice the noise the mat makes when moving around.
I would say the two cons for this mat are (as you said):
1. The volume (it takes up a lot of space in the pack) and
2. the weight (the rectangular wide is almost 1kg in weight)
I don't know how comfortable the Neoair Xtherm is to sleep on but if it is just as comfortable as the S2S Etherlight XT Extreme than it would win out on considerations of weight and volume. But here in Australia the Etherlight is about $300 while the Xtherm is $450 so if someone can't justify spending that much on a sleeping mat the Etherlight makes for an excellent cheaper (but not cheap) choice.
It looks like my big Agnes Q-core insulated pad and out of all the pads I've had and or barrowed the Q core has been the best for me. One of the he great things about sleeping pads is there are so many different types. Sooner or later you're bond to find the right fit for you. There are several places online where you can rent hiking/camping equipment. That makes for a great way to find the right fit for you before you accidentally buy the wrong one. Hope this suggestion will help someone. God bless and stay safe.
I have the Ether Light XT Women's Large mat. I found it very comfy and its size is not too big. If my backpack has room, I'll bring a thin cotton sheet (like a long pillowcase. DIY) to cover the mat. That will reduce much of the noise and gives extra protection to my mat.
Luke, I like this pad, I would definitely purchase it ! Thanks 🌲⛺️🌲
Had mine for 2 yrs great pad fits in my 50L bag with my other gear no problem
I'm just getting into backpacking, I work spring to fall so had to get warm stuff... I ordered that sea to summit in rectangle long... I'll be testing gear next week so we'll so how it goes! Last few years I do truck camping under a topper, so heavy cheaper gear but made it to -15 with no problems other than condensation build after a week.
I really love my ThermaRest as I've used it in Wisconsin and Michigan in the winter and have stayed quite warm. I'll give this a try for a bit more comfort. thanks for great information. Best to you and Susan.
I always sleep with ear plugs on while camping, doesn't matter mat is noisy or not. Nice review
i have a sea to summit comfort plus and a klymit pad. klymit double packs to nothing but hurts my back everytime i get on it. Sea to summit is quite comfortable. not a proper mattress but its 3 inches and i can side sleep with minimal pressure points and touching the deck. i really really like it. its about triple pack size as the klymit but tbh its a 25 inch pad and still packs down pretty well. not "ultra light " but also not a huge deal for short durations most people are backpack with
Thank you Luke far the agenda free reviews. I have come to trust your reviews, they always have helped me decide in what to invest my time and money in. Just ordered one for this years winter season here in Michigan's Upper Peninsula!
A good video, even if some of the comments are repeated a little too often.
One thing that seems to have been missed was the dimensions and alternatives on offer. I normally use a lightweight cot which is 60cm wide and I tend to find mats to be too narrow, especially around the feet. The Ether Light XT comes in a regular length but rectangle option which seems perfect for me. While the Thermarest does come in a rectangle shape they are significantly narrower and are therefore not an option for me.
That is now on my to buy list for winter camping.
Love mine, - 20 F I was warm, just tested in the backyard for that temp. Very comfy and I think much less noise than the other one you compared.
Been looking for a while now for Northern Camping in the cold. Running to the store now. Thanks alot for showing me this👌
Great review, Luke! I was curious about this pad, especially for winter. I currently use the Thermarest NeoAir Xlite for 3 season, but wanted something for winter camping. I was looking into purchasing the Thermarest cot and using the pad, however the Sea to Summit pad you reviewed here looks like a better choice. Thank you!
Thanks for a great review. I've been looking for some decent reviews about this pad for some time now. I've been a fan of the Sea to Summit sleep mats for quite some time and looking at getting something for the colder winter months here in the UK.
Hey Luke always look forward to your videos, not sure how I landed on your channel, been watching since March 2022...and subscribed...it's odd that I'm not a camping fanatic but yet spend lots and lots of hours watching your honest reviews, taking pride in what you do and helping others and of course there is the double whammy Cheers to everyone ;)... Thanks again for taking the time to make these and helping the so many subscribers out there you have
That thing is huge when packed up! Not sure I'd have room in my pack for that sucker
In my opinion (as a rather large side sleeper) the only con really is the packed size.. good thing you've got that slick 64L osprey unltd pack 😂 I'm seriously considering getting that pack as an incentive for my at thruhike next year, only because all of my other gear minus this pad in the large rectangular would be considered "ultra light"
I'll bet Susie won't want to give up her XTherm same as MEeee for 2 reasons; #1 it's R6.9 rating & #2 the 70D fabric on the ground side of the XTherm
Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada
It'll be worth the buy for me thanks for a great review.
Really good for tall lads like me, you are the best reviewer bro!
Sea to summit is a great brand for us Aussies. Thanks for the review as I have been looking for a new mattress
Noise tends to give me the spooks. It’s like “Skin Walker or bear can hear me”. But then again they can hear me complain if I am cold and sore.🤣 Seriously, noise is not an issue because if I am comfy, I am sleeping. Luke thank you for this review.
Great timing, I'm looking for a new air mattress for my winter camping trips.
Another outstanding review. Thank you Luke.
Your video description is great. Great video
I have this pad and it's by far the best iv used ever,very comfortable but you will pay for that but buy once cry once. And the inflation bag really works and well it is a big pad but sleep at least to me is most important if you don't sleep good you can't hike good
Have to check these out. Have been looking at them for awhile. I motorcycle camp, 1st priority. Storage size is always of concern. I'm big and long so wide and maybe not as thick would work. 30F would be my camp range maybe down to 20F. Like the inflation bag. At altitude that matters. I've used Thermorests for over forty years now. Great results all sized to use. Only leaks I got were in AZ dessert small cactus balls cut one. One gets into big campground without choice the sounds the sleeping pad makes won't be an issue like the farting snoring neighbors. Real world. RTW Sam
I live where if gets very cold. Sometimes -20f windchill. Finding good winter pads is hard. I'll definitely try this.
Really appreciate the info....thank you for what you do.
Excellent reviews all the time from you Luke! I had a self inflatable sleeping pad that was for car camping. A rescue puppy chewed up the values so I'm in need of a new sleeping pad. This one looks like it will fit the spot. One again thank you for your hard work in making these reviews! God bless you and your family!
Excellent review....thanks for your work!
jus had a zerofoxtrot woobie poncho liner in... love it
Time to check this out my man! I've got me some Icelandic treks in my future, without a hot tent. 🔥
Purchased!!!!
Did they change the naming? On the sea to summit site, the ether light xt insulated is listed as a 3.2 r value, and the ether light xt extreme is listed as a 6.2 r value.
Excellent review. Thanks. If I had $200 to spare I would get one for a winter overnighter. For now I will have to stick with my 4R pad over a zip foil base to give me equivalent R value.
On one hand I really like it, it is very comfortable, but what I dislike is the noise. Also have a Nemo Tensor Version 2 which is totally silent
Great job Luke I really enjoyed this content!!
It's a nice pad but for the width. Had it been a 25" pad I might have kept it but alas it was back to the store for this puppy.
The S to S pads are the most comfortable on the market. I have the Tensor as well but the XT Insulated rectangular regular is my go to pad. In cold weather I use the XT Extreme but because I am vertically challenged at 5'6" I use the women's version which is also 5"6" which comes in at 24oz and packs down smaller than the men's version. Also has a slightly higher R value at 6.3. I use a different pump sack than the one provided. If you want to know the most comfortable pillow available let me know.
Gravy, what is the most comfortable pillow ? Im currently looking for one. thanks
@@azz1azz I use the Goosefeet Gear down pillow in medium with 5oz. of down. Total weight 6.5oz. It has a sleeve so that you can put clothing in it to give it more volume. Most of the time I put my puffy in there and in essence have a 15oz. down pillow. I always take my puffy and often never use it. Now I always use it. If you want even more comfort there is a 1.5oz inflatable pillow made by a cottage company that I can't remember but you will see mentioned in other videos of this kind. You can slide it in with the jacket or use without jacket in hot weather. It will feel like your pillow from home. My sleep system is the ONLY part of my setup where I splurge in weight. My base weight is usually in the 11-12Lb. range.
I have the large rectangular it fits perfect in my hilleberg soul very warm very comfortable but it’s a beast 1100g and bulky
I’ve only recently got back into camping. I use a cheap $40 Klymit static V non insulated pad with a $15 yoga mat with a foil emergency blanket taped to the yoga pad 😅slept multiple nights in the high 20’s Fahrenheit with no issue. Without that yoga pad / foil blanket, I did get cold. Obviously it’s not great for backpacking far, but it’s way cheaper and worked perfect. Btw I used a Carinthia defense 1 bag in my undies at 28 degrees lol no issue.
Great review. I would love to see a comparison between this and the Thermarest Xtherm NXT
I could never get used to the noise of some of these inflatable pads I tested, so I ended up going with an Exped Dura 8r. Size for size, the Dura 8r is cheaper, lighter, quieter, warmer and is insulated with Down.
Hi Luke, thanks for your awesome review! Just bough this pad and looking forward to my next trip! I was also considering the Thermarest Xtherm but it seems that it makes so much noise that I would regret it. Also wanne use this pad for my wife in summer, and it seems far more comfortable than the Thermarest so I bought the Sea To Summit.
Can you by any chance revisit Outdoor Research's bivys and review the new award-winning Helium? and or the Alpine Ascent Shell? That Helium in Pewter, along with a Mossy Oak tarp and a little help from the local shrubbery? You could disappear like smoke! A vlog on camouflage would lend itself perfectly to the Helium and the Alpine Ascent Shell is breaking new ground in Outdoors tech as well with a warmer and more breathable(for a bivy) shell and easy-in side entrance. A rain fly coming off the front of the Helium and off the side of the Alpine Ascent Shell, would really complete both bivys, imo.
Could you use this pad all year round, even in the summer? Any downsides to using it in warm weather?
If I did more cold weather trips, I think I would invest in that pad. As for noise, if I am comfortable and warm on a pad, I really don't move around much, so noice is usually not an issue for me. Nice review, Luke.
I have a bad back this maybe the trick to sleeping and Camping!
I own this, it was my first backpacking air mat. It is too hot for where I live, but it wasnt until I tried a different brand that I realized how awesome the XT Extreme is:
-the air sprung cells and 4 inches of thickness make it ultra-comfortable, compared to Exped mats for example (the other one I own) I feel like in my mattress at home.
-You'll never feel the ground under you, the insulation keeps you warm as you shift or sit on it, neither have I felt the hard ground as the insulation provides enough cushion
Compared to the exped mats, this is more noisy. But that never has been a problem to me even as a beginner so I'm indiferent to it.
But yeah the volume is what has made me avoid using it. And the weight since as stated above I live in a pretty hot climate, so going for a no insulation mat was more comfortable for me.
You said that the pump sack is comparable to the one of a Thermarest Pad. Imho, the Pumpsack of my Thermarest Neoair X-Therm is a catastrophy. Way to small and it takes forever to inflate. Are there after market versions beside the default pump sack to which you statement is aimed? I would love a better pump sack for my Pad because otherwise it is amazing.
Thanks, great review. How does it compare to the klimat insulated pad?
From what I've read, the Sea To Summit may be heavier but its less likely to puncture than other ultralight pads?
Good information as always, though I don't think this one's for me
As a kayak camper, a proper sit inside kayak, you'd think that weight is my first concern. But over time I've learned that size is #1 and weight second, because these kayaks can float quite a bit of mass but the storage space is limited.
For instance, I have a super great sleeping bag and self inflating mattress, but they just take up too much space. Because the mat is self-inflating I can't fold it length wise, only roll it up, since it can mess up the internal inflating structure. Meaning the width of the mat is set and it causes it to only just fit through the oval hatch.
Same for the sleeping bag; high quality, durable, wide temperature range, and some nice features. But the volume is simply too great, even with the bag's included compression straps; it barely fits through the hatch regardless of folding and compressing.
The Zenbivy bed is defo worth a look too, I've heard it's the ultimate
I have the uninsulated version, just fantastic ! Cheers !
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I have the Ether Light XT Extreme Insulated (black one) and the Ether Light XT Insulated (grey one) for 3 seasons.
So comfy!
For a side sleeper, the 4 inches is perfect.
I have a older version of sea to summit with the pillow their nice
Kinda wanna see him review an exped pad eventually
I can see one day when I'm old that this will be a pad in my boat setup.
The most comfortable sleeping pad I’ve ever found to use ANYWHERE is my Thermorest Luxurylite cot.
Hey Luke , Love the video on the sleep pad ! Quick question what is the orange watch you are wearing it looks heavy duty and dependable ? Do you like and Where can I get one of those ?
Great review fella
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Can you use a flextailgear pump with this?
I’m hypersensitive to noise, which pads would recommend that are quieter? What’s your verdict of the Exped Ultra 3R?
Just the way one pumps it up is attractive. Though the price tag is outside of my budget.
bought one off this review, thanks buddy! Looking for a contender for the Exped Insulated pad I've been using for a few yrs now ;)
Huge benefit. It’s supporting allies. Designed in Australia.
Made in Taiwan.
Problem I would have is I would not be able to keep it firm. I have a bad back and sleeping on anything firm will give me a lot of pain the next day. Maybe just taking a small amount of air out would be fine but would have to try it out to make sure. You mentioned that the inside prohibits mold…would that be if you only use the kit to blow it up, or will it also work if you blew it up by mouth? The moisture from your breath would go inside it with no way to dry out. What are your thoughts? Good review.
You need to try a thermorest topo luxe if you want ultimate comfort.
I have that pad, never been able to get a good sleep with that pad. I am a heavy guy and sleep on my side, think it would be fine if I would be a back sleeper.
But it is funny that there's a lot of individual differences on how something feels and at the end of the day we all just have to try and find what will work for us. Still valuable to have these kind of videos out here to know where one might want to look.
Hi there, for the noise factor, when compared to the Thermarest, are they comparable? Is the Seatosummit a lot louder or close? Just trying to get a feel comparing the two pads.
I've had my XT Extreme for over a year now. It's a great pad and I just can't bring myself to try something else. The inflation sack/valve system really is excellent. The comfort is excellent, no doubt about it. The noise doesn't bother me and I'm not sure why it bothers others. I have the regular wide and plan to get the regular mummy now that I have a Thermarest Questar. I'm just not using the full width of the pad so I'll cut half a pound roughly and slightly reduced packed size. That will offset the slightly larger diameter of the Questar over my old summer bag and drop a full pound of weight from my pack. Another benefit is the slightly narrower pad should fit properly in the pad straps on the Questar to hold it in place. The wide XT extreme is a little too tight. I'm also ditching the aeros ultralight deluxe large pillow for the regular. The large is great but 16" wide which pushes my feet off the end of the pad. The regular is 10" and will solve that. My ultimate comfort sleep system is nearly complete!
Thanks for the video Luke. Have a question for ya. Would a winter (higher r-value) sleeping pad be too warm to use in the summer. I have the XTherm and find it very comfy but concerned it might be too warm for the hot and sticky nights here in Virginia. Thanks again for the awesome videos!