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  • @rcengineer
    @rcengineer ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Ok I kind of get why it's useless here but differentials are actually incredibly useful in other cases. This just doesn't happen to be one of them.

  • @ltcolthorin8661
    @ltcolthorin8661 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Many of these are useful for different things. The unique movements are great for different types of animations.

  • @anepickeyboard
    @anepickeyboard ปีที่แล้ว +69

    surely the gearbox is better than number 7?? definitely more useful than steppers and turntables?

    • @briansrandomstuff411
      @briansrandomstuff411 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The gearbox is like planetary gears.

    • @anepickeyboard
      @anepickeyboard ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@briansrandomstuff411 1. yeah they are like planetary gears but can also be considered a gearbox 2. how is that related to my question..?

    • @briansrandomstuff411
      @briansrandomstuff411 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@anepickeyboard Gearbox is more useful bc it can do more than a 2:1 gear reduction and it has functions just like planetary gears.

    • @Rochelleis40
      @Rochelleis40 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@briansrandomstuff411correct

    • @bowfuz
      @bowfuz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Even the differential is better than 7, it does the same thing better with less parts

  • @ArglinPB
    @ArglinPB ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Holy sweet jesus you actually built that reverser linkage...
    I'm kind of scared but also intrigued what some of the other mechanisms in my repository would end up looking like in lego form.
    Well done! XD

    • @in1
      @in1  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Oh, hi, I coincidentally just finished watching your video :) Of course, some of the linkages in the repository are just simply too big to work in the physical limitations of Lego, but for most of them it's a lot of fun to actually try to build them. For example, straight line linkages (I built some of them based on your Wikipedia animations) or thang's mechanisms work really well in Lego. Thanks for the inspiration :)

    • @ArglinPB
      @ArglinPB ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@in1 I'm glad to hear that!
      Also yeah, it seemed like you were starting to reach the limits of what lego could handle from just looking at that linkage based reduction mechanism, or at least at the scale you were working at, haha.
      Well done though, nevertheless. I wouldn't have thought something like that would even be possible. :)

    • @diezelleprozo6047
      @diezelleprozo6047 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArglinPB and it's "completely overcomplicated", so that's a big plus... ish

  • @user-or7om6je3k
    @user-or7om6je3k ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This is the type of content I am looking for..and almost nobody creates...Gear combinations, how to create steering setups, different connector combinations, how to setup motors vertically, but your gears need to be horizontally placed etc etc..all the problems you have to deal with in mocs.

  • @Vaterraman
    @Vaterraman ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Steppers are just Geneva drives for the most part. They can be useful in converting continuous rotation to an interval based rotation.
    This can be used to establish accurate increments throughout a rotation. However, it can also be used to deliver consistent timing and this is exactly why older film projectors clicked. The geneva drive provides. consistent timing of still image frames. It can also be used in other machinery, including watches.
    The stepper isn't exactly the same, or at least the Lego form, mainly the complexity of the gear in a geneva drive. This results in a differing rotational velocity during the interval of rotation, while the geneva is very accurate and snappy.
    The greatest concern of this type of drive, especially the geneva, is rather quick wear.

  • @zombievc10
    @zombievc10 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Your videos are very educational in the aspect of lego thechnic my friend (new follower)

  • @techformsmaster930
    @techformsmaster930 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Steppers are what makes mechanical clocks tick, gear boxes are what allows for a car to maximize torque output to get started up (speed is converted to torque on lower gears) and then trade it for speed when that torque is no longer needed (as it switches to higher gears torque begins to be converted to speed), differentials are what allow the back wheels of a car to turn different speeds, without which either the wheels would wear down faster or the car would lose traction, I don't know, and you put the speed crank, THE SPEED CRANK, as being more useful?! The speed crank, which in part was designed because of cranky patents, and whose only two major advantages include less friction on the handle, (easily fixed with a cover sleeve) and the fact you can have a couple gears in it, allowing it to spin something twice as fast, but making it twice as hard to crank in the process.

    • @in1
      @in1  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're right that these mechanisms might be more useful in real life, but in the Lego context it is actually kinda useful.

  • @dinhtuan752
    @dinhtuan752 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Another method: place 2 42142s on an axle of any length, and haft bushings on the middle to make a haft stud space. :)

  • @operaatio5117
    @operaatio5117 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The small turntable one isn't suitable for high RPM applications, as the small bevel gear is probably gonna go flying

    • @in1
      @in1  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep, but probably it won't even come to that, because the whole mechanism relies on the stud connection I built at 5:31, which can't handle high torque anyways

  • @DarkVoidIII
    @DarkVoidIII ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Excellent use of the Technic 99009co1 turntable assembly! I wonder what it would be like to use the assembly with one of the other Technic turntables? Old Technic Brick compatible turntables are numbered 2856 c01, c02, c03 - 56 tooth - and the new liftarm compatible turntables are 48452cxq or 18939c01 or c02 - 60 tooth. Very interesting, up until recently I had no idea there was a small Technic turntable assembly. I'll have to put some of those on my buy list! 😊👍👍

    • @in1
      @in1  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The turntable with studs has the same size as the big one, so it should work the same. The new (60 tooth) turntable doesn't have a gear, which you can use to make a 2:1 transmission.
      Fun fact: The turntables 99010 and 58168 together are also 2:1

    • @DarkVoidIII
      @DarkVoidIII ปีที่แล้ว

      @@in1 If it has 60 teeth it itself is a gear. How you apply that depends on what you're going to use it for.

    • @in1
      @in1  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DarkVoidIII What I mean is that there's no 30 or 120 tooth gear, so you can't really make a 2:1 tranmission with 2 gears

    • @DarkVoidIII
      @DarkVoidIII ปีที่แล้ว

      @@in1 Okay. What would be the closest approximation you can get to using gears you currently have on hand?

    • @in1
      @in1  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DarkVoidIII If you use a 28 tooth gear (the one I used for the other turntable) it's still pretty close to 2:1, in this case 15:7

  • @cjcote3490
    @cjcote3490 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think 8 should be way higher and how did find that solution for #10 lol. Really cool

  • @brickengineering4980
    @brickengineering4980 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Very nice vid I love it! It’s a cool video also where do you buy your power functions? Thanks :)

    • @in1
      @in1  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I got them from old sets, but, yeah, nowadays, they are very very expensive

  • @heho1
    @heho1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Last one ist best 😊 Brilliant ! Thank You

  • @cenreaper9127
    @cenreaper9127 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can you please make a 4 legged walker using Theo Jansen's mechanism?

    • @dinhtuan752
      @dinhtuan752 ปีที่แล้ว

      ok, I give to try to make that!

    • @dinhtuan752
      @dinhtuan752 ปีที่แล้ว

      here's a 2in1 answer to this:
      It's hard to shrink the Jansen's linkage down to a compact walker because even if you change the ratio of the lengths a tiny bit, the walking isn't smooth anymore. So there is not much I can improve compared to the other designs on TH-cam...

  • @robinhood184xD
    @robinhood184xD ปีที่แล้ว +2

    number ten is almost exactly what i use in 1 to 18 scale RC cars.

  • @kajin807
    @kajin807 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What's the difference between steppers and gears?

    • @in1
      @in1  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not much, steppers don't have constant velocity and you can't swap Input and Output

  • @pifpafpoufpifpaf
    @pifpafpoufpifpaf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What was the inspiration for the last one ?

    • @in1
      @in1  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When I made my gear alternatives video ( th-cam.com/video/3WgT3goylkI/w-d-xo.html ), I wondered, if there was any way to make some kind of gear ratio without gears. I spent a while researching, then I found a solution in Arglin Kampling's linkage repository (link in description) and build that linkage using Lego.

    • @pifpafpoufpifpaf
      @pifpafpoufpifpaf ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@in1 whoa it's interesting ! I will look into it, particulary I wonder if all the power is transmitted or if there is cyclic loss like with a ratchet

  • @bowfuz
    @bowfuz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hm, interesting idea, a proof of concept video showing that any rational gear ratio is possible? Or impossible, if that's the case, but i think with differentials you can make whatever you want.

    • @in1
      @in1  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, exactly. If you want to make a 13:7 gear ratio, you could just use the fact that differentials can 'add' gear speeds, so that you can just use binary (8:1+4:1+1:1 and 4:1+2:1+1:1) to create any n:1 reduction, and to chain them back together one ratio has to turn the reversed other one, and we have any fraction. Problem is just that turning differential-based transmissions backwards causes it to get stuck frequently, but the proof of concept exists.

    • @bowfuz
      @bowfuz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@in1 what do ya think about making a video that shows all that? Won't teach *me* anything new, but it'll definitely be cool, and maybe some people don't know about the idea!

    • @in1
      @in1  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bowfuz Yeah, I'm just not sure if it would just be a clunky mess of differentials that would in theory work, but doesn't because friction is too high... But yeah, I'll maybe try around with that for a bit

  • @catoperator229
    @catoperator229 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Try to create a mechanism that will double the speed regardless of whether you rotate the input or output)

  • @mariovelez578
    @mariovelez578 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would have swapped the belt with chain links. Belts are pretty useless with rubber bands since they have very low friction

    • @in1
      @in1  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, but there's no 2:1 gear combination that works with chain links. The 8-teeth gear is too small and slips, and there's no bigger gear combination where both gears work with chain links

    • @dinhtuan752
      @dinhtuan752 ปีที่แล้ว

      but I found my combination using new gears:
      20 to 40
      12 to 24
      Old way:
      8 to (24 to 16).

    • @in1
      @in1  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dinhtuan752 How would the 12- and 20 tooth gear work with a chain?

    • @dinhtuan752
      @dinhtuan752 ปีที่แล้ว

      The new 12 and 20-tooth spurs work well but the DBG versions can't do that.

    • @dinhtuan752
      @dinhtuan752 ปีที่แล้ว

      sorry for my late reply

  • @bami2
    @bami2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:47 that is a very dirty 24t gear

  • @charleshulsey3103
    @charleshulsey3103 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That last one hurts 🤕

  • @cendronhawk977
    @cendronhawk977 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You could say it's... "2:1 Bricking"!

  • @themostoriginalyoutuber
    @themostoriginalyoutuber ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I use the last one in every build

  • @rowanschultz9185
    @rowanschultz9185 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1ST and Balls.

    • @poulpoblup7090
      @poulpoblup7090 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well done

    • @Rainstalker
      @Rainstalker ปีที่แล้ว

      [ pee is stored in the balls in the balls ]

  • @bowfuz
    @bowfuz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    yess, omgoodness please do get some more music going, ive gotten tired of your usual bunch
    and also, good building content ofc, love u lol

    • @in1
      @in1  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm open for suggestions :) It's pretty hard to find background music that's neither agressive nor boring

    • @bowfuz
      @bowfuz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@in1 shameless plug here but maybe a song or two of mine could fit? The channel is 9DY5ER, and off the top of my head I could best recommend Mission, and maybe Rain. If not, I'll go on a browse later to find other music.

    • @in1
      @in1  ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice music! I'm not 100% sure, if that's the right kind of music, though, because (I could only find rain) I'm searching for something a little bit more upbeat...

    • @bowfuz
      @bowfuz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@in1 oh, my apologies. I privated Mission because of the poor quality video. I also think Particles might fit nicely! If not, I wouldn't be opposed to getting in touch on discord and I could make you your own selection for free!

    • @in1
      @in1  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bowfuz Not sure about "Particles", but I kinda like "Pink". Do I get the permission to use that in a future video (with credits in the description, of course)?

  • @raptorwhack5970
    @raptorwhack5970 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    german engineers watching this for inspiration

  • @MuscoviteDN
    @MuscoviteDN ปีที่แล้ว +2

    From
    Cool to fool)))

  • @iankim5395
    @iankim5395 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    #8 is used a lot in Lego RC cars

    • @in1
      @in1  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, but not as a transmission, but as a way to steer without a sliding rear wheel

  • @Benparkinson_the_sketch_artist
    @Benparkinson_the_sketch_artist ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah gears are perfect for technology and mechanics

  • @RobertoRodriguez-iw2zf
    @RobertoRodriguez-iw2zf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a problem but I summarize it better
    The bequeathed technic differential is very weak, I need a metal one or a replacement that won't break the teeth

    • @in1
      @in1  ปีที่แล้ว

      In two days I'll actually release a video about custom differentials, including a reinforced one

    • @RobertoRodriguez-iw2zf
      @RobertoRodriguez-iw2zf ปีที่แล้ว

      @@in1 But that it occupies the same and works the same

    • @in1
      @in1  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's probably impossible

  • @Klaevin
    @Klaevin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've used the differential in this role before, in a minugun.
    I've never once used a stepper, though...

    • @in1
      @in1  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, but in most cases you can just use 2 gears as the 2:1 transmission, while the stepper has an unique movement

    • @EnjoyCocaColaLight
      @EnjoyCocaColaLight ปีที่แล้ว

      Why differentials for the minigun?

    • @Klaevin
      @Klaevin ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EnjoyCocaColaLight it was in line with the axis of rotation of the minigun. So by turning the differential, the barrels spin twice as fast. I also didn't have room behind to add a Gearbox and a crank somewhere else

    • @EnjoyCocaColaLight
      @EnjoyCocaColaLight ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Klaevin Wait.. you've designed a minigun?!

    • @Klaevin
      @Klaevin ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EnjoyCocaColaLight out of Lego technic, yeah. It was on a plane, kind of like an A-10 Warthog. The pilot was right behind, so I didn't have room.
      Edit: scratch all of that. It wasn't present on my plane. Or maybe not on the final version. But I definitely used this

  • @lutzherbst6885
    @lutzherbst6885 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also den letzten Aufbau verstehe ich aber nicht, wenn man jetzt annimmt dass das ein Getriebe ist, z.Bsp.: für ein Auto. Dann komme ich an die obere Achse ran aber ich an die untere komme ich überhaupt nicht ran - 11:01 Minute. So meiner Meinung nach ist der letzte Aufbau in der Theorie ganz gut aber in der Praxis geht er unter, also nicht zu gebrauchen...
    Das andere war gut!

  • @fancydancypant
    @fancydancypant ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:22 parents:

  • @CapricornRichCat
    @CapricornRichCat ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍👍👍

  • @x1roboticxs
    @x1roboticxs ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeet

  • @mastert7601
    @mastert7601 ปีที่แล้ว

    From useful to useless or vice versa 0:3 (look at title)

  • @BingusRepublic
    @BingusRepublic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A

  • @bearcub7681
    @bearcub7681 ปีที่แล้ว

    With the bevel gears you can do a 20 tooth bevel gear and a 40 tooth gear

    • @in1
      @in1  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's what I did at 1:02

    • @bearcub7681
      @bearcub7681 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@in1 I meant at number 3

    • @in1
      @in1  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh, yeah, you're right

  • @aFrInaTiOn
    @aFrInaTiOn ปีที่แล้ว

    Those are just the obvious ones...

  • @joshualucas1821
    @joshualucas1821 ปีที่แล้ว

    #7 is just a crappy differential

  • @doomtho42
    @doomtho42 ปีที่แล้ว

    The video itself was great, but the music was really grating and honestly quite annoying.

  • @itessellate4440
    @itessellate4440 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’d watch more of these and possibly even subscribe if the music wasn’t so awful