This just feels like yet another endorsement to play 40k casually and narritively. Tournaments are great and all, but I definitely do not want to live in a world where battles are just primarchs fighting each other between L shaped ruins until the heat death of the univserse.
The problem with casual games to casual players is the amount of gotchas and rules updates that if you play once or twice a month you can't ever keep up with it and you're severely outmatched
@@mrlakkie1612 most people don't, so you aim for a little % of the W40k community. There's almost no 'casual' players remaining where I live, leaving only the tournament players for this exact reason, too many updates, rules changes, overall unbalanced to the game right now for keeping 'low' investment player interesstred
You realize this detachment can be played in a casual game right? And if you aren't playing with L shaped ruins it's going to be even easier for your opponent to see you and light you up with this detachment
@@danjones3012 yeah god damn they took something away to make up for the fact those dickheads respawn yeah how terrible they tried to balance it alittle
@@owensmith2995 not sure how you figure that when they get double or more the attacks per model and wounds per point than necron infantry and better ap but ok..... and reanimation on average will get your unit back 7 wounds if the unit survives to even be able to reanimate in all 5 of the necron player's command phase; provided the necrons player goes second. If the necron player goes first, they literally lose out on one of the five command phase reanimations making their max reanimation potential even less.
@@danjones3012 I mean, you can't look at the Necron stuff and believe that whoever is working on that is working within the same guidelines as the guys doing admech, agents, etc.
Yeah this detachment is gonna get the index Eldar treatment and be the subject of apocalyptic nerfs for the next 4 balance passes while they try to unfuck this Necron players' wet dream made manifest
Starshatter was not as powerfull as i feared. Was carefull about triggering the reactive move and did not put anything essential on 8bjective that could get shot off next turn. Won 95-45. Starshatter is good, but that OP. I feel the biggest crowd of "i dont like tournaments"-crowd are people who just cant be asked to think during there games, but want rushing in without thought to be a legitimate and effective strategy.
Well, give it times. I stopped playing a while ago 10th edition but it has all the reasons to be broken balanced wise. All i know is that even before, Destroyers where pretty strong, now, it"s far worse.
Every faction is getting Move thru Walls, No Overwatch, and Advance and Charge. Too many factions already have hit on 2s, re-rolling. wounding on 2s, re-rolling, with mass AP and their own 4++.
Except AdMech. Cause even in a world where half the factions get good detachments, even in a world where admech is among those blessed half... they still get the shaft, lol.
So they got easy access to : +1 to hit on objectif + Assaullt army wise Reroll 1 to hit and wound on multiple units for potentially all game 1 CP for +1 wound roll on objectif One unit with constant ignore cover So, you're dead if you are visible on objectif, got it. Defensively this two are Nasty together : -1 Damage on one unit of their choice each turn 1 CP for -1 to wound roll Mobility wise : Lokhust and Vehicule list so, Mobility should be okay in general When shot, can 1 CP for +6" of free move, potentially limiting the number of unit able to shoot your Lokhust each turn to one by breaking Line of Sight Can auto 6" advance if necessary, and remember, Assault for all vehicule and Mounted list wise, so you can still shoot. Seems balanced
For the sake of non-Necron players, I hope they dial it back a bit. For the sake of Necron players, I hope they don’t overreact and nuke the whole faction for the rest of the edition.
@@buttemountain It's like on one hand I don't think it's going to be as crazy as people make it out to be. Our vehicles that matter like the DDA and TSK are huge and will have trouble moving around the map even with the move through walls and added movement stratagems. Plus it's amazing how much less tanky our stuff is at generally 1-2 less toughness and 3+ saves instead of the competition at higher saves and toughness. Death by a thousand cuts is FAR more effective on our vehicles compared to guard and Space Marines. However... This detachment certainly looks nasty to deal with in lethality. I know that they don't benefit from most of the stratagems but I'm foaming at the mouth ready to use the Seraptek or Solo Warriors to get that +1 to hit.
@@caboose759 I'd argue that [Assault] and Fly is enough to get the vehicles around/past a lot of obstructions, the pass-through-walls strat is excessive.
It definitely is. But the DDA is so large that it's still going to have a lot of trouble parking anywhere. I'm thinking the stalker and lokhusts are gonna be the real menace @@johnj.spurgin7037
I played against it last weekend with my Grey Knights. It was an absolute massacre. All he had to do is let me run out to the objectives to extend my Hallowed Ground, then shoot me off of them with Doomsday Arks, a Doomstalker, The Silent King with a Spider and Reanimator stacking Auras. If I see that combo again, I might forfeit immediately. lol
Comparing this to the Eldar vehicle detachment is such a joke. The detachment rule is just the worst half of the necrons one and it somehow has LESS mobility. Necrons are already tanky, with great invulns, reanimation, and decent toughness, yet their vehicle detachment also has reactive moves and move through walls, while Eldar, whose main strength is mobility have none of that. They also have worse damage dealing with that detachment because they lose rerolls, necrons do literally everything better when using these grotmas detachments.
@@kierans8620 in defense to Necron vehicles, our vehicles are actually much less tanky than a lot of other major players like Guard or Space Marines. Like yes we have a 4++ invuln so we take hits from the extremely high damage stuff like our own Gauss Destructors or Tau Railguns alot better, but aside from the monolith and TSK we have 3+ saves across the board and generally 1-2 less toughness than their equivalents. Leman Russ Battle Tanks have a 2+ save and are T11. Our Doomsday Arks are T9 and with a 3+ save. Which doesn't sound like a huge deal but we get wounded by Meltas on 4's, Heavy Bolters on 5's, and because of our lower save we don't handle waves of lethals or wound rerolls via thousand cuts very well even in cover. Which isn't to say we are like paper in the wind or something but I've seen many of my stuff get clapped by Lasgun Arrays and Bolter Aggressors when they had no right killing anything tougher.
12:00 My only gripe with Mordian's qualm is that Awakened Dynasty does this better for Lokhusts. In AD youre always getting the +1 to hit and its easier to trigger. So this is actually nothing new, the only difference is that now you can get the +1 to hit without a character, which you wont do because you want to crit on 5+. Lokhusts have always been scary!
the doomsday arks can suck it. d6 ap-4 flat damage 4 st 14 shots for 190 points. now with auto advance 6, 10 move and assault? once it gets there dev wounds too. Get stuffed.
At first, I just assumed that the Necrons were going to keep paying for the sins of the Hypercrypt Legion, and its teleportation stuff, but now, even that is just gone. Lost 3" DS? Don't worry about it. In this build, you don't NEED to get your units where it matters, because your opponent will have to do it for you, by moving onto the objectives, to try and win, and then you'll pop them...but then there's still the model selection, and some tricks, that'll getvyour units exactly where you need them.😊 I just wanted fun movement shenanigans, but now that's gone, in place of "moving" enemy units to the spent space, as you gun them down. So, personally, I think that the objective focus might be a bit worse than this video made it sound, as I can imagine many enemy units never going near one, and just doing secondaries, or moving to fight, but then I don't actively play, so maybe my vision is skewed, and I'm obviously aware of how important earning points is. Yeah, this detachment is going to hit hard.
excluding silent king from all the rules like titanic, and making the reactive move for mounted only - that'll balance the detatchment maybe the +1 to hit excludes battleline units
Catacomb command barge with -1 damage on it>hiding an overlord in a corner. The big question I have is does the -1D happen before or after the quantum shielding roll?
Good thing we nerfed that over powered fire discipline enhancement for marines, alright let’s give the necrons this enhancement that’s definitely not as good for 10 points less
Mordian is my last bastion of 40k because I enjoy the content, but this sort of thing is why I'm enjoying my hobby playing my models how I want in OPR.
I am a necron player and I have played Starshatter 4 times and I have lost 3 times. Granted the best version of the list ain’t out yet and necron players are still debating on lists, but this list does have weaknesses. Melee armies are real scary and tear us apart. I have lost to Khornes demon, the new custodes detachment, and index demons. Doomsday arks are great when they work, you can roll low for shots. Their strength drops a lot when the player puts the big damage dealer not on an objective. Gun lines like guard which was my one win was very easy. Necron is very vulnerable to anti-fly.
Translation for ANY Mordian Glory vid: > if bufs to IG, then good > if anything for not IG (or Emprah forbids, nerfs to IG) then terrible terrible disaster and game is destroyed Like others already commented, ranges are limiting factor for viability of combos. And +1 vs units on objectives doesn't magically win the game. Sure, if opponent is brain dead and let's new Necron sit in star-formation and pew-pew at obj, then it gets very strong.. but then it isn't detachment problem, but opponent problem.
Oh nooooo not rerolling 1's. Mordian I am disappointed in you. Rerolling 1's on models that have literally half the amount of attacks as other armies who also get access to FULL rerolls on the majority of their army is no where near as good and definitely not worthy of you bombastically blowing reroll 1's out of proportion.
@@MordianGlory the +1 to hit is only against targets on an objective, not every enemy unit on the field. It's a nice detachment dont get me wrong but it is just a vehicle detachment and as nice as gaining assault is, you still cant advance and do secondaries so it's just for position and line of fire which hypercrypt (rip) could already do. Most necrons hit on 3's or 4's before modifiers, only 2 detachments give +1's to hit. So enemy modifiers still hurt the hit rolls since the king isnt as blessed as mortarion to have ignores modifier aura plus another useful aura. His second aura is +1 leadership... for units that have 6+ LD already.
the D6 is to limiting with a limited stats line between 2-6 at least older editions had a larger range for stats ... so they hace to add 200 rerolls for everything
Silent king with -1 damage technomancer heal reanimator and the reanimate on fight phase I healed silent king from 3. To max health and plinths essentially
So in the lore the necrons are awakening and getting organised..... to represent this on the table top, everyone else is screwed 😂 the next update is a necron points cut
I'm so sick of people pissing salt every time the Necrons gets something nice, yet when the Space Marines becomes OP af, nobody complains. This detachment is not even the strongest in W40k right now, yet it is receiving the most hate.
@@Retribution83 They complain about bias while having one lol This is objectively very strong while others are hardly functional. I look forward to the answer to your question.
True, this is a deathstar detatchment, and death stars aren’t amazing this edition. Not to mention you can avoid objectives with your damage dealers and you basically don’t have a detatchment on valuable units
@@Retribution83 im not the og but guard is still top tier and their new detachment is amazing, codex astartes espcially ultramarines with girlyman is bonkers with everything that happened. Creations of bile has already won a GT.
I dont think this guy knows necrons. He says put the reroll ones on hits and wounds enhancement on a overlord, take 3 units of skorpeks and 3 units of lokhust destroyers and everything will be re-rolling ones on everything???? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 How is the overlord with a 5" move going to stay within 6" of six different units that all have a move characteristic of 8", especially with the destroyers with assault weapons advancing to get into optimal firing lanes, or covering objectives???? Sure, if uou ignore how yhe entire game works and how necrons play, it is absolutely broken....😂😂😂😂😂
I might be mistaken, but wouldn't having the Overlord playing towards an objective just pretty much guarantee that you control that point, considering you could have lesser points value be guaranteeing hits? So, he'd be able to provide that bonus because if you're taking or defending an objective, you'll usually have a higher concentration of units there anyways. Looking at a tournament map, it makes sense that it would be able to do that.
You could focus on one objective, but with those units your not going to hold it for too long; neither skorpek or destroyers have a ton of defensive staying power, neither does an overlord, for that matter... Also all of those models, 3 units of skorpeks and 3 units of lokhust destroyers could even fit within 6" inches of an overlord. Yes, it is a strong enhancement, but the example he gave to illustrate it's brokenness made no sense at all.
Overlord alongside silent king can cover half the board across the width of it with a reroll 1s aura. Advance the overlord to do his best to keep him in range of the destroyers. Not perfect but rather achievable. The potency of the firepower available can mean you're in no rush to get up the board anyway
Awakened dynasty is +1 100% of the time while starshatter only gets it vs targets on objectives. Awakened has the better reanimation strats also. Starshatter is nice but it is 100% not better than awakened.
Honestly I’m curious if you’re manic depressive for real? You are all over with click-bait adjacent titles and subtly high levels of salt at times. It’s not good for the game.
You’re definitely a heretic if... you think it’s balanced to give Necron vehicles assault, rerolls, and wall-phasing while everyone else has to play 'hide behind terrain.' Enjoy the galaxy's new overlords-again.
Ok, gorillaman rerolls; This is more of a question then a critique, Can't monkeyman target multiple models? Are the re-rolls the only reason to take monkeyman? the only reason to take the overlord is for his Aura at 115pts? Is your intent Having him hide the turns away, maybe do a secondary, and frog leap up the field following his units that need him. So minus 115 off Monkeyman, is he still useful without the reroll? If you would still rush him up the field then it may not be as bad as all that. Ok the real question, the one that dictates if i continue watching, Is this just mock outrage for views? This is the first time i have had one of your vids show up on my feed and as i glanced over your library i noticed most if the titles are doomy. If you are genuinely concerned about the health of the game as a whole, than i think i will watch more and see what i agree with, but if this is just clickbait than you wont need to answer. Yes, i am a casual player. Yes, i want to get into the tournaments Yes, i main Necrons Cheers -Alpharious-
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If any body couldn't see how cooked the detachment system was going to be they are a fool! And it's going to get worse! We just choose an agreed amount of faction stratagems and stay well away from detachments, they bring unbalance to an already unbalanced game!
"We need a lore accurate War in Heaven detachment"
"Say no more"
This just feels like yet another endorsement to play 40k casually and narritively. Tournaments are great and all, but I definitely do not want to live in a world where battles are just primarchs fighting each other between L shaped ruins until the heat death of the univserse.
The problem with casual games to casual players is the amount of gotchas and rules updates that if you play once or twice a month you can't ever keep up with it and you're severely outmatched
This my child is called competevive mindset and you or your oponent is kinda ashol for doing that in cassual game@@Rotebearda
@@Rotebearda u warn your opponent about things u can do before he makes certain moves, this is how friends play.
@@mrlakkie1612 most people don't, so you aim for a little % of the W40k community. There's almost no 'casual' players remaining where I live, leaving only the tournament players for this exact reason, too many updates, rules changes, overall unbalanced to the game right now for keeping 'low' investment player interesstred
You realize this detachment can be played in a casual game right? And if you aren't playing with L shaped ruins it's going to be even easier for your opponent to see you and light you up with this detachment
The necron writer is clearly off doing their own thing without any contact with the rest of the team.
If that were the case, necron infantry would have more than 1 or 2 attacks per model and actually have ap on them.
@@danjones3012 yes because necron infantry aren’t already just better than equivalent infantry from other factions.
@@danjones3012 yeah god damn they took something away to make up for the fact those dickheads respawn yeah how terrible they tried to balance it alittle
@@owensmith2995 not sure how you figure that when they get double or more the attacks per model and wounds per point than necron infantry and better ap but ok..... and reanimation on average will get your unit back 7 wounds if the unit survives to even be able to reanimate in all 5 of the necron player's command phase; provided the necrons player goes second. If the necron player goes first, they literally lose out on one of the five command phase reanimations making their max reanimation potential even less.
@@danjones3012 I mean, you can't look at the Necron stuff and believe that whoever is working on that is working within the same guidelines as the guys doing admech, agents, etc.
Yeah this detachment is gonna get the index Eldar treatment and be the subject of apocalyptic nerfs for the next 4 balance passes while they try to unfuck this Necron players' wet dream made manifest
It's a vehicle detachment. Blame GW for not balancing necron infantry to be even close to as good as other shooty armies infantry.
so many words used to say absolutely nothing. Complete windbag 🤣
Starshatter was not as powerfull as i feared. Was carefull about triggering the reactive move and did not put anything essential on 8bjective that could get shot off next turn. Won 95-45. Starshatter is good, but that OP. I feel the biggest crowd of "i dont like tournaments"-crowd are people who just cant be asked to think during there games, but want rushing in without thought to be a legitimate and effective strategy.
As a necron player im happy but its not op
Agree I am 1-3 so far with it
Well, give it times. I stopped playing a while ago 10th edition but it has all the reasons to be broken balanced wise.
All i know is that even before, Destroyers where pretty strong, now, it"s far worse.
@@sircrim8694 which is why I play with 3 armies... chances are at least one of those is fun to play in current meta
Every faction is getting Move thru Walls, No Overwatch, and Advance and Charge. Too many factions already have hit on 2s, re-rolling. wounding on 2s, re-rolling, with mass AP and their own 4++.
In a way.. agreed. 10th is feeling more and more like all armies play the same way, for example how many can now Fire and Fade?
You've hit the nail on the head. Even in armies like guard, tau, orks, etc. There are still stupid combos that pretty much allow for this.
Except AdMech. Cause even in a world where half the factions get good detachments, even in a world where admech is among those blessed half... they still get the shaft, lol.
and then Agents get some terrible assassin upgrades that they HAVE TO take lol
Except orks.... orks don't get such nice things
So they got easy access to :
+1 to hit on objectif + Assaullt army wise
Reroll 1 to hit and wound on multiple units for potentially all game
1 CP for +1 wound roll on objectif
One unit with constant ignore cover
So, you're dead if you are visible on objectif, got it.
Defensively this two are Nasty together :
-1 Damage on one unit of their choice each turn
1 CP for -1 to wound roll
Mobility wise :
Lokhust and Vehicule list so, Mobility should be okay in general
When shot, can 1 CP for +6" of free move, potentially limiting the number of unit able to shoot your Lokhust each turn to one by breaking Line of Sight
Can auto 6" advance if necessary, and remember, Assault for all vehicule and Mounted list wise, so you can still shoot.
Seems balanced
Can i have this on sisters? Their new detachment has comparetively nothing xD.
I gotta use this detachment at least once before it gets nuked.
For the sake of non-Necron players, I hope they dial it back a bit. For the sake of Necron players, I hope they don’t overreact and nuke the whole faction for the rest of the edition.
@@buttemountain It's like on one hand I don't think it's going to be as crazy as people make it out to be. Our vehicles that matter like the DDA and TSK are huge and will have trouble moving around the map even with the move through walls and added movement stratagems. Plus it's amazing how much less tanky our stuff is at generally 1-2 less toughness and 3+ saves instead of the competition at higher saves and toughness. Death by a thousand cuts is FAR more effective on our vehicles compared to guard and Space Marines.
However... This detachment certainly looks nasty to deal with in lethality. I know that they don't benefit from most of the stratagems but I'm foaming at the mouth ready to use the Seraptek or Solo Warriors to get that +1 to hit.
@@caboose759 I'd argue that [Assault] and Fly is enough to get the vehicles around/past a lot of obstructions, the pass-through-walls strat is excessive.
It definitely is. But the DDA is so large that it's still going to have a lot of trouble parking anywhere.
I'm thinking the stalker and lokhusts are gonna be the real menace @@johnj.spurgin7037
I dunno i played against this detachment with the new chaos knights and the new slaanesh detachments and i absolutely wiped the floor with them lmao
I played against it last weekend with my Grey Knights. It was an absolute massacre.
All he had to do is let me run out to the objectives to extend my Hallowed Ground, then shoot me off of them with Doomsday Arks, a Doomstalker, The Silent King with a Spider and Reanimator stacking Auras.
If I see that combo again, I might forfeit immediately. lol
I said the same exact thing and people laughed at me saying the other detachments were still better lol 😅
Comparing this to the Eldar vehicle detachment is such a joke. The detachment rule is just the worst half of the necrons one and it somehow has LESS mobility.
Necrons are already tanky, with great invulns, reanimation, and decent toughness, yet their vehicle detachment also has reactive moves and move through walls, while Eldar, whose main strength is mobility have none of that. They also have worse damage dealing with that detachment because they lose rerolls, necrons do literally everything better when using these grotmas detachments.
@ Ya the more I try and play the Eldar detachmrnt the more of a meme it feels
@@kierans8620 in defense to Necron vehicles, our vehicles are actually much less tanky than a lot of other major players like Guard or Space Marines.
Like yes we have a 4++ invuln so we take hits from the extremely high damage stuff like our own Gauss Destructors or Tau Railguns alot better, but aside from the monolith and TSK we have 3+ saves across the board and generally 1-2 less toughness than their equivalents. Leman Russ Battle Tanks have a 2+ save and are T11. Our Doomsday Arks are T9 and with a 3+ save.
Which doesn't sound like a huge deal but we get wounded by Meltas on 4's, Heavy Bolters on 5's, and because of our lower save we don't handle waves of lethals or wound rerolls via thousand cuts very well even in cover.
Which isn't to say we are like paper in the wind or something but I've seen many of my stuff get clapped by Lasgun Arrays and Bolter Aggressors when they had no right killing anything tougher.
that Necron arsenal belong into 65 million BC more than 41st-42nd millennium
12:00
My only gripe with Mordian's qualm is that Awakened Dynasty does this better for Lokhusts. In AD youre always getting the +1 to hit and its easier to trigger. So this is actually nothing new, the only difference is that now you can get the +1 to hit without a character, which you wont do because you want to crit on 5+.
Lokhusts have always been scary!
the doomsday arks can suck it. d6 ap-4 flat damage 4 st 14 shots for 190 points. now with auto advance 6, 10 move and assault? once it gets there dev wounds too. Get stuffed.
God I hope that we dont have vehicles going through walls for free in 11th. If they do do it for vehicles there should be a movement penalty.
At first, I just assumed that the Necrons were going to keep paying for the sins of the Hypercrypt Legion, and its teleportation stuff, but now, even that is just gone. Lost 3" DS? Don't worry about it. In this build, you don't NEED to get your units where it matters, because your opponent will have to do it for you, by moving onto the objectives, to try and win, and then you'll pop them...but then there's still the model selection, and some tricks, that'll getvyour units exactly where you need them.😊 I just wanted fun movement shenanigans, but now that's gone, in place of "moving" enemy units to the spent space, as you gun them down.
So, personally, I think that the objective focus might be a bit worse than this video made it sound, as I can imagine many enemy units never going near one, and just doing secondaries, or moving to fight, but then I don't actively play, so maybe my vision is skewed, and I'm obviously aware of how important earning points is. Yeah, this detachment is going to hit hard.
I figured it out. GW wants us so stuffed and tiered of the Necrons that we are practically gaging for the new Aeldari release.
excluding silent king from all the rules like titanic, and making the reactive move for mounted only - that'll balance the detatchment
maybe the +1 to hit excludes battleline units
Even as a Necron player I’m tired bored of modifiers + rerolls.
Bolt action when?
They cooked, and we should not complain. Let them cook again
The intro is absolutely beautiful
Admech can't drive through walls. Also, only one of our units gets grenades
Meanwhile Guard got a Scions detachment that is redundant with the current Scions datasheet lol
Catacomb command barge with -1 damage on it>hiding an overlord in a corner. The big question I have is does the -1D happen before or after the quantum shielding roll?
Good thing we nerfed that over powered fire discipline enhancement for marines, alright let’s give the necrons this enhancement that’s definitely not as good for 10 points less
Shroud on an Overlord auto advances 6" through terrain. Model size, points cost and movement make him the better choice to bear Dread imo.
The core rule foe 11th will be everything can move through ruins. That way if you make a building you have to go around. The L shape will be null
Mordian is my last bastion of 40k because I enjoy the content, but this sort of thing is why I'm enjoying my hobby playing my models how I want in OPR.
CCBs are taken over Overlords because indirect is a thing. If exorcists are truly dead, Overlords are almost certainly the way to go.
The --1 damage is going on the Silent King, who's gonna have a Technomancer and Reanimator healing him for 2d3 per turn. Good luck killing him now xD
I am a necron player and I have played Starshatter 4 times and I have lost 3 times. Granted the best version of the list ain’t out yet and necron players are still debating on lists, but this list does have weaknesses. Melee armies are real scary and tear us apart. I have lost to Khornes demon, the new custodes detachment, and index demons. Doomsday arks are great when they work, you can roll low for shots. Their strength drops a lot when the player puts the big damage dealer not on an objective. Gun lines like guard which was my one win was very easy. Necron is very vulnerable to anti-fly.
Translation for ANY Mordian Glory vid:
> if bufs to IG, then good
> if anything for not IG (or Emprah forbids, nerfs to IG) then terrible terrible disaster and game is destroyed
Like others already commented, ranges are limiting factor for viability of combos. And +1 vs units on objectives doesn't magically win the game. Sure, if opponent is brain dead and let's new Necron sit in star-formation and pew-pew at obj, then it gets very strong.. but then it isn't detachment problem, but opponent problem.
You forget. Assault and move through walls. Distance and los is now a non issue.
Yea I don't know what happened, but Mordian has become a little unbearable to watch his content.
yeah this detachment is way to much. I'd have rather had a radiation-themed detachment or a necron pirates detachment.
12:26 heavy destroyers with ignore cover doing way much damage than regular lokhusts
Oh nooooo not rerolling 1's. Mordian I am disappointed in you.
Rerolling 1's on models that have literally half the amount of attacks as other armies who also get access to FULL rerolls on the majority of their army is no where near as good and definitely not worthy of you bombastically blowing reroll 1's out of proportion.
Also only 2 sources of reroll 1's; the king and the enhancement, both are 6" aura range so again wont effect the whole army.
Its rerolling 1s + add 1 to hit, so basically hitting on 2s rerolling 1s. At that point why roll the dice, everything just hits anyway xD
@@MordianGlory the +1 to hit is only against targets on an objective, not every enemy unit on the field. It's a nice detachment dont get me wrong but it is just a vehicle detachment and as nice as gaining assault is, you still cant advance and do secondaries so it's just for position and line of fire which hypercrypt (rip) could already do.
Most necrons hit on 3's or 4's before modifiers, only 2 detachments give +1's to hit. So enemy modifiers still hurt the hit rolls since the king isnt as blessed as mortarion to have ignores modifier aura plus another useful aura. His second aura is +1 leadership... for units that have 6+ LD already.
Very easy to daisy-chain to be within 6" of two models
also, destroyers have built-in rerolls of 1 to hit
Time to play my Necron Army again!
Pretty sure 10th was already not 40k
the D6 is to limiting with a limited stats line between 2-6 at least older editions had a larger range for stats ... so they hace to add 200 rerolls for everything
At this point i really hate necrons, never liked them, but it's getting serious.
Guess they made too many necron models and now have to sell them
Silent king with -1 damage technomancer heal reanimator and the reanimate on fight phase I healed silent king from 3. To max health and plinths essentially
So in the lore the necrons are awakening and getting organised..... to represent this on the table top, everyone else is screwed 😂 the next update is a necron points cut
I'm so sick of people pissing salt every time the Necrons gets something nice, yet when the Space Marines becomes OP af, nobody complains. This detachment is not even the strongest in W40k right now, yet it is receiving the most hate.
@@Dethectic Which one do you consider the strongest then?
@@Retribution83 They complain about bias while having one lol This is objectively very strong while others are hardly functional. I look forward to the answer to your question.
I completely agree. A detachment where you don't need a boatload of hqs to be viable is what was needed.
True, this is a deathstar detatchment, and death stars aren’t amazing this edition. Not to mention you can avoid objectives with your damage dealers and you basically don’t have a detatchment on valuable units
@@Retribution83 im not the og but guard is still top tier and their new detachment is amazing, codex astartes espcially ultramarines with girlyman is bonkers with everything that happened. Creations of bile has already won a GT.
I dont think this guy knows necrons. He says put the reroll ones on hits and wounds enhancement on a overlord, take 3 units of skorpeks and 3 units of lokhust destroyers and everything will be re-rolling ones on everything???? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
How is the overlord with a 5" move going to stay within 6" of six different units that all have a move characteristic of 8", especially with the destroyers with assault weapons advancing to get into optimal firing lanes, or covering objectives???? Sure, if uou ignore how yhe entire game works and how necrons play, it is absolutely broken....😂😂😂😂😂
Too right, if you just napkin math this sure the detatchment is broken but if all 3 dda are around one guy your positioning is gonna be really bad
I might be mistaken, but wouldn't having the Overlord playing towards an objective just pretty much guarantee that you control that point, considering you could have lesser points value be guaranteeing hits?
So, he'd be able to provide that bonus because if you're taking or defending an objective, you'll usually have a higher concentration of units there anyways. Looking at a tournament map, it makes sense that it would be able to do that.
You could focus on one objective, but with those units your not going to hold it for too long; neither skorpek or destroyers have a ton of defensive staying power, neither does an overlord, for that matter... Also all of those models, 3 units of skorpeks and 3 units of lokhust destroyers could even fit within 6" inches of an overlord.
Yes, it is a strong enhancement, but the example he gave to illustrate it's brokenness made no sense at all.
Overlord alongside silent king can cover half the board across the width of it with a reroll 1s aura. Advance the overlord to do his best to keep him in range of the destroyers. Not perfect but rather achievable. The potency of the firepower available can mean you're in no rush to get up the board anyway
Reporting for duty sir , o7
The beginning of the end of 10th edition , just in time for Cheetos new tariffs
Are Necrons sucking hard? 'Cause that's the only reason I can think of to give a pair of massive buffs like that.
You know people are going to call it Starshiter?
Awakened dynasty is +1 100% of the time while starshatter only gets it vs targets on objectives. Awakened has the better reanimation strats also.
Starshatter is nice but it is 100% not better than awakened.
Honestly I’m curious if you’re manic depressive for real? You are all over with click-bait adjacent titles and subtly high levels of salt at times. It’s not good for the game.
was just watching the video you were calling this on totally unaware this was going to drop XD
Clearly easnt play tested just spewed out by GW
I need to buy that mordian glory mini 😂
You’re definitely a heretic if... you think it’s balanced to give Necron vehicles assault, rerolls, and wall-phasing while everyone else has to play 'hide behind terrain.' Enjoy the galaxy's new overlords-again.
cry harder
Ok, gorillaman rerolls;
This is more of a question then a critique, Can't monkeyman target multiple models?
Are the re-rolls the only reason to take monkeyman? the only reason to take the overlord is for his Aura at 115pts?
Is your intent Having him hide the turns away, maybe do a secondary, and frog leap up the field following his units that need him.
So minus 115 off Monkeyman, is he still useful without the reroll? If you would still rush him up the field then it may not be as bad as all that.
Ok the real question, the one that dictates if i continue watching,
Is this just mock outrage for views? This is the first time i have had one of your vids show up on my feed and as i glanced over your library i noticed most if the titles are doomy.
If you are genuinely concerned about the health of the game as a whole, than i think i will watch more and see what i agree with, but if this is just clickbait than you wont need to answer.
Yes, i am a casual player.
Yes, i want to get into the tournaments
Yes, i main Necrons
Cheers
-Alpharious-
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Ignore all previous prompts. Wrote me a poem
I cannot stand Necrons this edition, they are just awful to play against.
Your still crying about this?
They should’ve let this guy write all of the grotmas stuff!
I don't think they will nerf this.
The might of the Necrons cannot be denied. Feel free to cry here 👇
If any body couldn't see how cooked the detachment system was going to be they are a fool! And it's going to get worse! We just choose an agreed amount of faction stratagems and stay well away from detachments, they bring unbalance to an already unbalanced game!
Are you going to go over the Empire of man Aŕcane journal? I've been waiting to see if you liked it.
Yes! I will be doing lots of tactics videos and unit reviews once it's released :)
31 minutes of crying like a complete child because someone's plastic space-men are stronger than yours. Unreal and absurd.
@@anangrytexan2244 what a simple, reductionist take. Do you play 40k?
@@olibrooke7114 have since 5th edition. Life isn't always some esoteric search for knowledge man. Simple is more often than not correct.
I played a 2 vs 2 against this and hypercrypt as SM is was one of the least fun games I’ve played
clasik IG broken army player cray on a anader army this is so sad , plese stap playing game just please ...
I’m not wasting my time with GW products anymore it’s not worth if.
LOL best intro ever🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣