The wallcreeper definitely isn’t well suited for integration with lbe. It really is more of a bivy than it is rain gear. The USGI poncho is far better suited for covering you and your kit while still allowing access to your mags, admin, etc. I demonstrate different wet weather tops and bottoms and their relationships with kit in my previous video on wet weather gear. Hopefully that video can help you find rain gear that suits your needs. Great question. Thank you!
I can definitely see they got some ideals from the Ecotat multi shelter system specially with the skirt part of the wall creeper. I've always wanted to buy one, but never did pull the trigger. Greay video thanks for sharing😎👍💯
I'd seen these around but never with enough photos or info to get an idea of what it was truly like. Great video showing it's features and limitations.
Most of the time, we just said to hell with it and stayed wet. It was either that or sweat to death if you are on a hump or in movement. Now if we were set up in an ambush, or LP, OP or on FOB we would rock it, but for grunts, we spend most of the time soaked, just part of being a grunt
get some milsurp trouser blousers for use as shock cords for your tie off points and you'll suffer a lot less tears of your shelter element. I use a net hammock and a couple of Amazon half lb each "cut leaf" type of camo nets. They work really well and can be wrapped around you as insulation, between two of the 1/4 lb each amazon full body bugnet "suits". Wear the assembly as long johns. and they help about 10F degree's worth. I sometimes wear my reflective tyvek bivy and its sheet plastic "envelope' as clothing, cause I hate carrying stuff that only has one use.
An interesting piece of gear. Hilleberg has their bivanorak and Outdoor Research has their Wilderness cover. Personally i'd prefer a tarp and rain gear. More versatile and the weight difference is negligible. Good review! Nate
I wish OR would bring back the wilderness cover :( And ya, as much as I love the woodland poncho and WallCreeper, an actual tarp makes for a much better shelter and an actual hard shell makes for much better rain gear. Thank you!
I wonder how hard it would be to supplement this with some bug netting for bivie format, you probably don't need a huge piece, just needs to be setup to secure to the inside of the hood. Would love an exploration of anti-bug combat!
The bivy looks good for if your not looking to fight and the poncho is. If your a soldier your going to be sleeping in mud holes (from what I’ve gathered) or sand holes, some kind of shit hole you will be located. Not great for a bivy but a little hole with a poncho would be alright and let you be fight ready while the bivy would be like if your in a medium permissive environment and are not on some front lines. Those Who want their plate carriers: poncho Those who are trying to be lightweight and sneaky: bivy
6:26 I saw a video of a guy trying to hammock one of these inside a city bus and it looks very much like the guy in this picture I wonder if that was a marketing campaign?
@@KitCreep stay at this man, the fact you're aware of the intersection between issued kit and ultralighting(everybody's goal whether they know it or not) sets you pretty far apart.
That's pretty sweet but the price too high. Pro is very versatile and lightweight. I tell u from experience if I have to lift it up to walk over rocks or sticks. Definitely annoying
Oh hell no. At practically $400.00 I can survive without it. That's what our government is doing with our money. (All those $400 hammers and $6,000 toilets can keep this thing company.)
I’m scratching my head at this one. It’s just not... practical. A plain non Goretex USGI poncho and woobie seems far more usable, practical, and essentially... makes more sense than this thing.
That is one of the dumbest, most expensive bits of kit, that I guarantee no US special forces operator is ever going to use! Put a pack on with webbing and a rifle and you would cook within a few hundred meters of walking...
How are you supposed to have access to your plate carrier or other gear while wearing all of that? Great video!
The wallcreeper definitely isn’t well suited for integration with lbe. It really is more of a bivy than it is rain gear. The USGI poncho is far better suited for covering you and your kit while still allowing access to your mags, admin, etc. I demonstrate different wet weather tops and bottoms and their relationships with kit in my previous video on wet weather gear. Hopefully that video can help you find rain gear that suits your needs.
Great question. Thank you!
3:02
"It's essentially the thneed from the Lorax." 😄🤣🤯
Your videos are very well done, useful information. I hope you keep producing videos.
Thank you!
I can definitely see they got some ideals from the Ecotat multi shelter system specially with the skirt part of the wall creeper. I've always wanted to buy one, but never did pull the trigger. Greay video thanks for sharing😎👍💯
Great for stealth camping, so versatile.. great demo.
I'd seen these around but never with enough photos or info to get an idea of what it was truly like. Great video showing it's features and limitations.
Thanks! Glad I was able to help people figure out what this thing is lol
Most of the time, we just said to hell with it and stayed wet. It was either that or sweat to death if you are on a hump or in movement. Now if we were set up in an ambush, or LP, OP or on FOB we would rock it, but for grunts, we spend most of the time soaked, just part of being a grunt
Feldjuken from Norway issued to a variety of SFs and well tested. It's even in military manuals.
I can foresee having a head net being an essential piece of kit.
Definitely. Outdoor research also makes the Bug Bivy. Would probably work perfectly with this.
can’t wait to see more! Keep it up
Thank you!
Seems inspired by the Jerven Fjellduken bags. They are much more versatile IMO if you're looking at a piece of gear like this.
I’ll have to check that out
and they are super robust - saw one guy makin a hammock out of it...
Inspired by? More like bad attempt at making one! 😂
nice adaptable design. the final 13+ min of video shows best config i would use iit for as a shelter.
Nemo made the companion wallcreeper sleeping bag for this system.
Helikon Tex Swagman or Hill People Gear MOUNTAIN SERAPE are great. Also for bugs use a head net or similar with draw string.
Awesome Video!
You should try using the Wall Creeper in tandum with the Kelty No Fly Zone.
get some milsurp trouser blousers for use as shock cords for your tie off points and you'll suffer a lot less tears of your shelter element. I use a net hammock and a couple of Amazon half lb each "cut leaf" type of camo nets. They work really well and can be wrapped around you as insulation, between two of the 1/4 lb each amazon full body bugnet "suits". Wear the assembly as long johns. and they help about 10F degree's worth. I sometimes wear my reflective tyvek bivy and its sheet plastic "envelope' as clothing, cause I hate carrying stuff that only has one use.
Thank you for this video. Great information. Subscribed.
ah yes another man of culture
An interesting piece of gear. Hilleberg has their bivanorak and Outdoor Research has their Wilderness cover. Personally i'd prefer a tarp and rain gear. More versatile and the weight difference is negligible. Good review!
Nate
I wish OR would bring back the wilderness cover :( And ya, as much as I love the woodland poncho and WallCreeper, an actual tarp makes for a much better shelter and an actual hard shell makes for much better rain gear. Thank you!
9:30 lmao! indeed strange but this is a marvel of engineering 😍
Dang it looks kinda badass you might scare hikers
I wonder how hard it would be to supplement this with some bug netting for bivie format, you probably don't need a huge piece, just needs to be setup to secure to the inside of the hood. Would love an exploration of anti-bug combat!
hahahaa being 5'6 That thing was a met gala dress on me
Definitely has that “high fashion” kinda vibe
The bivy looks good for if your not looking to fight and the poncho is. If your a soldier your going to be sleeping in mud holes (from what I’ve gathered) or sand holes, some kind of shit hole you will be located. Not great for a bivy but a little hole with a poncho would be alright and let you be fight ready while the bivy would be like if your in a medium permissive environment and are not on some front lines. Those
Who want their plate carriers: poncho
Those who are trying to be lightweight and sneaky: bivy
are u administrative results cousin from the mountains? Awesome vid dude!
It’s very similar to an old European (Nordic) style hunting blanket, or coat…..thing.
Nice wanted to grab one from varusteleka but to expensive...
They’re crazy expensive on most websites. Gotta hunt on eBay
Keep up the great content. You have what it takes to be one of the big gear channels. Will you do a BDU review on your raid mod uniform?
Thank you! And that video will be out soon. It’ll be more than just a review ;)
6:26 I saw a video of a guy trying to hammock one of these inside a city bus and it looks very much like the guy in this picture I wonder if that was a marketing campaign?
Great video, I own one, and immediately realized how useless it is
that bivvy looks cool as hell, but i can kiwi my poncho up and it really didnt cost me nothing
Definitely cool, definitely expensive. Standard ponchos will always be king
@@KitCreep stay at this man, the fact you're aware of the intersection between issued kit and ultralighting(everybody's goal whether they know it or not) sets you pretty far apart.
Thanks man! I’m glad you appreciate it.
bro, crye Gen4 Hot Weathers?!
subbed :)
Vid on those coming soon 🤙🏼
Nice ! A bear taco!
Interesting.
Whenever I hear the word "goretex" I reach for my flintlock pistol.
Reject modernity. Embrace oil skin.
It’s Tacticool Bo Peep! 😂😂😂
Any SF guys I know would laugh at this
That's pretty sweet but the price too high. Pro is very versatile and lightweight. I tell u from experience if I have to lift it up to walk over rocks or sticks. Definitely annoying
Haha ya the skirt thing is definitely not ideal. But ya if the price was lower it’d be a great addition to any inventory.
noice
Jerven fjellduken extrem
Oh hell no. At practically $400.00 I can survive without it. That's what our government is doing with our money. (All those $400 hammers and $6,000 toilets can keep this thing company.)
Looks like an Ecotat with less features.
Everything about what is going on right here is pretty strange 😂 9:32
Creepy even
I keep the plain old poncho. I don’t have that kind of money 😢. For a blanket. ☢️ Donations?
Creepy
I’m scratching my head at this one. It’s just not... practical. A plain non Goretex USGI poncho and woobie seems far more usable, practical, and essentially... makes more sense than this thing.
Usgi poncho and liner is more than enough for most applications. This is definitely a technical, specialty item.
It appears to be terrible at everything. Its terrible for ultralight backpacking too. It really is barely functional for any purpose
It looks like a knockoff of a Jerven Fjellduken.
That is one of the dumbest, most expensive bits of kit, that I guarantee no US special forces operator is ever going to use! Put a pack on with webbing and a rifle and you would cook within a few hundred meters of walking...
It’s definitely not designed for movement. The poncho configuration is more for being static in a torrential downpour.
This product isn't available in the market...a waste of time video
You’ll find em on eBay
Would have been so much better if you weren't wearing that mask
Fed
@@gabeallen9319based
The video is about the bivy. Not me