This video brought back memories of when I was a child of four or five. My mother and I would go to the junk stores around Atlanta (circa early 1960s) and I was already a child soldier in my mind. At one of the shops I spotted an old M-1 carbine sitting in a barrel full of junk and pulled it out. Now that was a rifle that my child frame could handle. Even then I knew about the operation of that type of rifle and noticed the bolt was missing. It had a price tag hanging from the trigger guard for $5.00. I figured that I could con my mother into buying it for me by telling her it was not a “working gun” and only good for hanging on the wall. I almost had her talked into buying it when the shop owner told her NOT to buy it for me. True story and stuck in my memory forever. I know it isn’t the same type rifle as in the video but only it’s Bastard little brother. Great videos well worth saving!
I really enjoy these training videos. Anyone who owns a garand can definitely sharpen their skill with these videos especially if they are new to the M1. I found a copy of the score book on line for $12.00 in perfect condition and its allot of fun to use at the range calling shots and making windage calculations and seeing how close you can get. Thanks for putting these videos together on TH-cam!
Yes! For those interested, it's called a "Combination Score Book" for the 1903, M1 Garand, and BAR. You can typically find these on eBay for less than $15 + shipping.
Agreed, definitely picked up a few little tricks for estimating windage and how to use my m1907 sling properly. It's always good to know the doctrine from the days these rifles were originally issued. Funny though how the loading procedure changed after a few years of soldiers and marines getting garand thumb 👍
This film is the product of a time when marksmanship (as well as many other skills) were taught based on an objective, empirical approach, rather than the subjective, theoretical teaching we see today. That's why old instructional films are characteristically easier to understand than newer ones, and that's why those who learned the "old way" were able to master their skills instead of merely imitating someone else with varying degrees of success.
This is the best shooting training video out there. Ive seen this back in 2008, maybe even before that time. It really helped me getting to shoot well. I even qualified as a 1st class rifleman with the Dutch marines, without even joining their ranks. I shot everything in the same hole at 10 meter, and hit every time at 300 meter. So i qualified as a marksman. :) It was one of those shooting on a screen with a real recoiling gun, and the computer counting your hits. So basically, its the same deal as shooting the real rifle. Greetings, Jeff
We never used the loop sling except for learning the positions. All live firing was done from the 4 positions and without a sandbag. We did not have the leather sling, everything in 1955 was cloth material and very strong. We learned to place our left arm through the sling and then loop it back over the sling and place our hand near the stacking swivel. Personally I would not like to attempt to use a loop sling in combat, to long to adjust.
This is excellent. I learned many of these techniques when I was a kid shooting NRA matches with my father. I'm seriously considering getting the M1 garand special grade and getting into the matches with my son. Thanks for sharing
Man if you haven’t yet, do it. I started with Ar’s with my son who was 8 at the time and 10 now. I served with the M4 so I just trained him like I was in the Army. That is, had him practice in the prone and kneeling doing quarter drills with a cleaning rod. That and I wouldn’t let him have an optic until I felt he was proficient with his iron sights. He didn’t like the open sights at first, he finally did get a EOTech, be he likes shooting his irons now. Anyway, my point was I got him his owe rig and he was content and love it, tell he laid eyes on a M1 Grand. Then that was all he wanted. Lol since I had always wanted one as well, just never got around to it. I went ahead and took the CMP plunge. It was a little bit of a pain in the butt. But definitely worth it. Anyway, well hope you have gotten one already or hope you go ahead and get one. It’s been well worth the money and time for us.
I have watched the marksmanship films, most of the parts anyway, over and over for the past few years. They are fantastic, and I hope the readers of this comment, and the viewers of the training film will pass a comment on Facebook etc, so we can bring others into fold. I will be taking my M1 out in a few days to fire again, I ask all lovers of these great Rifles to spend the word that if they want one GO TO CMP (on line and research the site. Take your time as its takes a few minutes to get around! Contact me if you need help in finding the CMP site.
This is why the US's methodology is called "the cult of the individual marksman". Every single soldier needs to be able to shoot quite well, and the rifles are made to match. Accuracy first.
From a casual viewer of "war college", I agree. It seems like there's a great focus on the individual here. Coupled with the great strategist and I'd say the U.S. is more than it's budget.
I have a couple of M1a's. Just bought my first Garand this week. I've got a few hundred rounds but I'm torn with ammo prices and scarcity. Nothing like a Garand.
anyone notice the first bullet on the board already, you didn't upload the first episode, about aiming, and sight picture, the guy talks about it, but we didn't get to see the first lesson, on it.
I have got to know what paht of Mass or New England he is from. I pin him for central Mass (Springfield, or Worcestah, possible around Bahston). I recognize the high pierce tone and the dropping of the "r" like most in New England. Great video and I learned a bit of BRM I had not been trained with but refreshed on other areas. My attention was piqued by his accent so I listened more intently being a New Englandah myself. I love these old military training films.
Doctrine changed years ago with the transition to the M16. The idea now is to maintain a high rate of fire downrange, accuracy is of secondary importance. If you direct enough lead in the direction of your targets, the law of averages says that one or more rounds will find a target. Marksmanship is now of greatest importance to special forces, not the average soldier. They train for accuracy, but that accuracy is rarely required in practice. In WW2, marksmanship was required in order to make the limited number of heavier rounds an individual soldier could carry count.
@@jamesrogers47 True, but the M16 is a completely different system for a different purpose. Its primary purpose is suppressive fire over moderate range to pin down the enemy so that mortar or air strike support can deal the blow. The M1, OTOH, was meant to finish the job, and at longer ranges.
I remember the very first thing my grandfather taught about firearms handling. He was in the marines during the 1970s. He said that the trigger pull should be so smooth that when the gun goes off. It should scare you.
The instructor is definitely an actor, but some of the recruits might have been actual enlisted men working on the film as a part of their service outside of deployment.
Every chicken-wing police needs to watch the USMV M-1 training film troops watched for WW2. "Keep your arm comfortably high with the butt of the rifle in the deep well created by the shoulder." Our grandfathers and great-grandfathers slung more lead this way at war than you clowns do on the flat range 😂
The military will find a way to make the simpliest things complicated. Just find a support for your rifle, and don't play sailing knots with the sling, so you can put the gun away when needed. Geez
I don't know about these new fancy Spears I'd rather just charge with a two handed sword but these day's..... this is pretty informative mix this with Vietnam techniques and Hunting with some SAS improvised paranoid scytzophrenia there ya go
Lol in combat all this shit goes out the window 🤣 thats why today we have assault rifles with higher capacity this shit is only good to learn to shoot on the range or snipers once it's a fight it won't matter cause the target will be moving and shooting back at you
This video brought back memories of when I was a child of four or five. My mother and I would go to the junk stores around Atlanta (circa early 1960s) and I was already a child soldier in my mind. At one of the shops I spotted an old M-1 carbine sitting in a barrel full of junk and pulled it out. Now that was a rifle that my child frame could handle. Even then I knew about the operation of that type of rifle and noticed the bolt was missing. It had a price tag hanging from the trigger guard for $5.00. I figured that I could con my mother into buying it for me by telling her it was not a “working gun” and only good for hanging on the wall. I almost had her talked into buying it when the shop owner told her NOT to buy it for me. True story and stuck in my memory forever. I know it isn’t the same type rifle as in the video but only it’s Bastard little brother.
Great videos well worth saving!
I really enjoy these training videos. Anyone who owns a garand can definitely sharpen their skill with these videos especially if they are new to the M1. I found a copy of the score book on line for $12.00 in perfect condition and its allot of fun to use at the range calling shots and making windage calculations and seeing how close you can get. Thanks for putting these videos together on TH-cam!
Yes! For those interested, it's called a "Combination Score Book" for the 1903, M1 Garand, and BAR. You can typically find these on eBay for less than $15 + shipping.
Agreed, definitely picked up a few little tricks for estimating windage and how to use my m1907 sling properly. It's always good to know the doctrine from the days these rifles were originally issued. Funny though how the loading procedure changed after a few years of soldiers and marines getting garand thumb 👍
Next, try to find a dictionary that teaches you the spelling of "a lot".
This film is the product of a time when marksmanship (as well as many other skills) were taught based on an objective, empirical approach, rather than the subjective, theoretical teaching we see today. That's why old instructional films are characteristically easier to understand than newer ones, and that's why those who learned the "old way" were able to master their skills instead of merely imitating someone else with varying degrees of success.
Such a great film. I just picked up a m1. This is a great reference for using the garand. Thank you for the upload!!!!
Love my ol garand!
47:13
So many years later, I’m three deployments in for Uncle Sam and the warning he gives about accuracy and keeping calm has never been more true.
This is the best shooting training video out there. Ive seen this back in 2008, maybe even before that time. It really helped me getting to shoot well. I even qualified as a 1st class rifleman with the Dutch marines, without even joining their ranks. I shot everything in the same hole at 10 meter, and hit every time at 300 meter. So i qualified as a marksman. :)
It was one of those shooting on a screen with a real recoiling gun, and the computer counting your hits. So basically, its the same deal as shooting the real rifle.
Greetings,
Jeff
Love those positive very clear tactile and audible clicks for sight adjustments!
We never used the loop sling except for learning the positions. All live firing was done from the 4 positions and without a sandbag. We did not have the leather sling, everything in 1955 was cloth material and very strong. We learned to place our left arm through the sling and then loop it back over the sling and place our hand near the stacking swivel. Personally I would not like to attempt to use a loop sling in combat, to long to adjust.
This is excellent. I learned many of these techniques when I was a kid shooting NRA matches with my father. I'm seriously considering getting the M1 garand special grade and getting into the matches with my son. Thanks for sharing
Man if you haven’t yet, do it. I started with Ar’s with my son who was 8 at the time and 10 now. I served with the M4 so I just trained him like I was in the Army. That is, had him practice in the prone and kneeling doing quarter drills with a cleaning rod. That and I wouldn’t let him have an optic until I felt he was proficient with his iron sights. He didn’t like the open sights at first, he finally did get a EOTech, be he likes shooting his irons now. Anyway, my point was I got him his owe rig and he was content and love it, tell he laid eyes on a M1 Grand. Then that was all he wanted. Lol since I had always wanted one as well, just never got around to it. I went ahead and took the CMP plunge. It was a little bit of a pain in the butt. But definitely worth it. Anyway, well hope you have gotten one already or hope you go ahead and get one. It’s been well worth the money and time for us.
@@Harris4267 Awesome 👍. Sounds like fun. Thanks
Every soldier a marksman. Love it!
I have watched the marksmanship films, most of the parts anyway, over and over for the past few years. They are fantastic, and I hope the readers of this comment, and the viewers of the training film will pass a comment on Facebook etc, so we can bring others into fold. I will be taking my M1 out in a few days to fire again, I ask all lovers of these great Rifles to spend the word that if they want one GO TO CMP (on line and research the site. Take your time as its takes a few minutes to get around! Contact me if you need help in finding the CMP site.
The quality of the instruction, here, is extraordinary, really. Just amazing.
Great video. Valuable information about trigger control. Can really help those new to the recoil of the Garand.
Awesome video. Watched half dozen times probably.
"After your instructor is satisfied that you've found the right pair of holes........."
Ooeer missus! 🤣
This is why the US's methodology is called "the cult of the individual marksman". Every single soldier needs to be able to shoot quite well, and the rifles are made to match. Accuracy first.
From a casual viewer of "war college", I agree. It seems like there's a great focus on the individual here. Coupled with the great strategist and I'd say the U.S. is more than it's budget.
@@hotdesertroks889 idea is to give each solider accurate supressive fire rather than just mass fire
TY for uploading.
FYI: These positions and fundamentals are taught at Project Appleseed
With a couple of minor variations.
Nice to see the origin of Fred’s Simplified Wind Rule tho, eh?
I have a couple of M1a's. Just bought my first Garand this week. I've got a few hundred rounds but I'm torn with ammo prices and scarcity. Nothing like a Garand.
Thank you for posting this!
I recently received an M1 from the CMP. A Field Grade Springfield with an IHC stock. According to an FOIA request, it is a Phillipines return.
anyone notice the first bullet on the board already, you didn't upload the first episode, about aiming, and sight picture, the guy talks about it, but we didn't get to see the first lesson, on it.
I have got to know what paht of Mass or New England he is from. I pin him for central Mass (Springfield, or Worcestah, possible around Bahston). I recognize the high pierce tone and the dropping of the "r" like most in New England.
Great video and I learned a bit of BRM I had not been trained with but refreshed on other areas. My attention was piqued by his accent so I listened more intently being a New Englandah myself. I love these old military training films.
Actor Dan Tobin, native of Cincinnati, Ohio. Don’t know where he acquired his accent.
You need to be able to shoot practically in the field! (proceeds to instruct the recruits on using the sling for marksmanship on the range).
And it's bad form. Some of the worst. Zero recoil absorption, low energy conservation. This stance was never used in the field.
Very instructive! Today!
May I suggest to break this video into shorter times? Each position getting its own segment, but keeping the time to 10-20 minutes?
Hey, isn’t that instructor Dan Tobin?
Doctrine changed years ago with the transition to the M16. The idea now is to maintain a high rate of fire downrange, accuracy is of secondary importance. If you direct enough lead in the direction of your targets, the law of averages says that one or more rounds will find a target. Marksmanship is now of greatest importance to special forces, not the average soldier. They train for accuracy, but that accuracy is rarely required in practice. In WW2, marksmanship was required in order to make the limited number of heavier rounds an individual soldier could carry count.
@@jamesrogers47 True, but the M16 is a completely different system for a different purpose. Its primary purpose is suppressive fire over moderate range to pin down the enemy so that mortar or air strike support can deal the blow. The M1, OTOH, was meant to finish the job, and at longer ranges.
God catch! Gentleman Dan
I remember the very first thing my grandfather taught about firearms handling. He was in the marines during the 1970s. He said that the trigger pull should be so smooth that when the gun goes off. It should scare you.
The windage is so interesting
I had this on VHS tape years ago. Mildew destroyed it. Thanks for the upload. It's awesome to see this movie again.
What happened to part 1 "aiming exercises"?
That's a good question actually. It was there when I uploaded it. =\
did you ever find part one?
John Edgeworth part one is actually the 1943 shooting us rifle book.
58:32 Guy is trying to murder his thumb...
Love my garand!
It'll drive tacks at 500 yards!!!
I learned a lot from this. I think I'll be a better shot now!
5:50 i somehow imagine something else when i close my eyes and do not hear the word “rifle”
TO My Father Who Had His Springfield M1 Rifle In The 1940's ,To My Grandfather Who Worked At Winchester Repeating Arms During WW2 .
Isn't it terribly annoying to hold Shift for every new word, especially when there is absolutely no reason nor justification to do so?
@@Anvilshock Vasinyuk ? Gevorht Devyet Mit Kluhgen ?
He neglected to tell them not to assume the prone position if there are any sailors milling about...
Watching this just incase.
Yeah my fellow citizens.....try doing this while tired,cold,hot. next step...carry on.
best sights ever made....
Were they? Because I must be doing something wrong it’s so tiny.
Ndn and proud 🇺🇸
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One guy had a 16 inch bayonet that was soon shortened to 10 inch blade.
Funny thing is you know they're just actors in uniforms because of the hollywood accent they have from that era.
The instructor is definitely an actor, but some of the recruits might have been actual enlisted men working on the film as a part of their service outside of deployment.
Every chicken-wing police needs to watch the USMV M-1 training film troops watched for WW2. "Keep your arm comfortably high with the butt of the rifle in the deep well created by the shoulder."
Our grandfathers and great-grandfathers slung more lead this way at war than you clowns do on the flat range 😂
Holy crap I've been doing it wrong
None of these shooting techniques are taught today
Yes they are
Hours of snapping in for minutes of firing line time.
The military will find a way to make the simpliest things complicated. Just find a support for your rifle, and don't play sailing knots with the sling, so you can put the gun away when needed. Geez
I don't know about these new fancy Spears I'd rather just charge with a two handed sword but these day's..... this is pretty informative mix this with Vietnam techniques and Hunting with some SAS improvised paranoid scytzophrenia there ya go
Don't aim like that or you get to be the Latrine Orderly!!!
Man these videos are cheesy af. I couldn't watch the whole thing.
Lol in combat all this shit goes out the window 🤣 thats why today we have assault rifles with higher capacity this shit is only good to learn to shoot on the range or snipers once it's a fight it won't matter cause the target will be moving and shooting back at you
You're forgetting that GI's have Thompsons and Grease Guns.
@Gi Joe If you practice, it will all become second nature and help you actually hit that moving target.
😮 lf you can shoot the balls off a house fly 🪰 you have accuracy 😊