The Gaussian Integral // Solved Using Polar Coordinates

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  • The gaussian integral - integrating e^(-x^2) over all numbers, is an extremely important integral in probability, statistics, and many other fields. However, it is challenging to solve using elementary methods from single variable calculus. In this video we will see how we can convert it to multivariable calculus and then use tricks from multivariable calculus - in this case converting to polar coordinates - to solve this single variable integral. The crazy thing is that this integral ends up being in terms of pi, and if you didn't know about the polar trick you might wonder why pi shows up here at all! This proof is due to Poisson.
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  • @wakeawake2950
    @wakeawake2950 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    We can also solve Gaussian integral by Laplace transform,but this method is really cool,I like this more, thnk u professor

    • @Sir_Isaac_Newton_
      @Sir_Isaac_Newton_ ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Laplace transform is so much more elegant, I don't know what you're on about.

  • @sbmathsyt5306
    @sbmathsyt5306 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Awesome video the display is really nice and clear. I love the graphs helping to visualise the integrals.

  • @JUNGELMAN2012
    @JUNGELMAN2012 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    just 3 minutes into the video, and i'm already in love with the clean color commented animations. Keep up the good work. Your setting the bar for others.

  • @claudeabraham2347
    @claudeabraham2347 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Very good. I electrical engineering grad school 1979, my math professor solved this integral for us. I was fascinated with it since. The key is the dx dy = dA =r dr d(theta). In polar form the integrated possesses antiderivative.
    Great example of coordinate transformation being useful. In one coordinate system a problem which is very difficult becomes *easy peasy* in another coordinate system.

    • @jh-ij4by
      @jh-ij4by ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting thanks for sharing

  • @GadgetGuyU.K.
    @GadgetGuyU.K. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another brilliant and clearly explained video! Thanks for posting.

  • @andrewharrison8436
    @andrewharrison8436 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, beautiful. So straightforward when you know how.
    Nicely presented, part way through I remembered this from years ago but enjoyed it to the end. Like watching a row of dominos topple, inevitable but satisfying.

  • @KM25263
    @KM25263 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You have an awesome way of teaching, thanks. It is fascinating how cool is geometry sometimes when compared with calculus. It is also worth noting the physical meaning of 'sqrt pi' where calculus also touches statistics!

  • @davidm9442
    @davidm9442 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really good explaination, thanks Dr. Bazett!!

  • @ilkinond
    @ilkinond 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just discovered your channel today Dr. Trefor - awesome. Subscribed already.

    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Awesome, thank you!

  • @elisabeth3254
    @elisabeth3254 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This finally makes sense, thank you so much! Greetings from a physics student from Austria! 😊

  • @212ntruesdale
    @212ntruesdale ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another master class. My brain thanks you!

  • @Saptarshi.Sarkar
    @Saptarshi.Sarkar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Using the Gamma function is my favourite method to solve this

  • @jaimanparekh4616
    @jaimanparekh4616 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I did this out of my textbook today, and by the looks of it I got it right without using any outside sources to help. So happy. Thanks for the explanation with the visuals backing up my initial intuition

  • @SuperWiseguy3
    @SuperWiseguy3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! This helped make sense of verifying the pdf of a normal distribution!

  • @mohammadjaveed7404
    @mohammadjaveed7404 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cosy methodprofessor thanks.

  • @POLYMATH_RAGHU
    @POLYMATH_RAGHU ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great explanation. Thank you

  • @emilwang8818
    @emilwang8818 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very helpful video!!! I was trying to use complex analysis, but it didn't quite work out as expected :/

  • @salimismail6859
    @salimismail6859 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    made it really easy to understand thanks

  • @michaelwise5089
    @michaelwise5089 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just came across this. Thanks for helping me understand this! I especially liked how you showed the 3D function and linked it to polar coordinates with spherical symmetry.

  • @declanwk1
    @declanwk1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is a brilliant short video

  • @AbhishekKumar-jg7gq
    @AbhishekKumar-jg7gq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are showing the beauty of mathematics 🥰🥰

  • @divishthamalik309
    @divishthamalik309 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are an amazing prof I wish you were my instructor

  • @ilong4rennes
    @ilong4rennes ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you so much !!!!! this video saved me!

  • @user-sz9pf4st9h
    @user-sz9pf4st9h 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice work!

  • @jewulo
    @jewulo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am new to your channel and I have watched all day today. It is awesome. You are awesome.

    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Welcome aboard!

  • @suhailawm
    @suhailawm 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    amazing explanation prof. tnx alot

  • @akhilkrishnan824
    @akhilkrishnan824 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You make it simple.... 👍

  • @JigsaW-goat
    @JigsaW-goat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks bro... really helped me understand this...already liked and subscribed :)

    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for the sub!

  • @adresscenter
    @adresscenter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great teacher 💪👍

  • @vikramnagarjuna3549
    @vikramnagarjuna3549 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm waiting for wonderful topics in Vector Calculus

  • @continnum_radhe-radhe
    @continnum_radhe-radhe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sir , can you made a video on centre of gravity....multiple integral??

  • @forresthu6204
    @forresthu6204 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that's insane and amazing mathmatica tirck.

  • @pamodakoggala
    @pamodakoggala 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, the way is cool. And the way you teach is very clear.

    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! 😃

  • @yongmrchen
    @yongmrchen ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice idea 💡

  • @ilproko3689
    @ilproko3689 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GENIUS

  • @tonireyes844
    @tonireyes844 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How did you convert the bound of integration ? I mean how to write that mathematically ?

  • @muhammadumarsotvoldiev8768
    @muhammadumarsotvoldiev8768 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank's a lot. Very good explanation.

    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @neilliang4209
    @neilliang4209 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My personal favorite

  • @yoavgolan4916
    @yoavgolan4916 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, thanks for your video Prof. It was all clear to me, except for one step. What theorem did tou use in order to justify combining the multiplication of the two single variable integrals to one double integral?

    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Fubinis theorem

    • @rfmvoers
      @rfmvoers 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it's the constant factor rule... because both integrals are constants w.r.t. each other.

  • @Noone-wz1ys
    @Noone-wz1ys ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want to understand how u defined the limits for theta...
    Sir,I need help here,if u can.

  • @victoraguiar3489
    @victoraguiar3489 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the explanation, Dr. Trefor. I would like to ask what would have changeg if instead of integrating from -inf --> inf, you integrated from say xo --> inf, where xo is a a point in the curve. Cheers

    • @ridazouga4144
      @ridazouga4144 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's an interesting question, but the answer doesn't exist unfortunately, in other words this integral from xo to infinity can be obtained only numerically and not algebraically

    • @onionbroisbestwaifu5067
      @onionbroisbestwaifu5067 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is an example of a non-elementary function, in other words, there is no writeable combination of sines, cosines, polynomials, logarithms, or exponents that can give your answer in general. It can only be solved given bounds through non-elementary methods (like this trick or feynmans trick or laplace transforms)

  • @geektoys370
    @geektoys370 ปีที่แล้ว

    How can you change the variable

  • @wakeawake2950
    @wakeawake2950 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video!

  • @sergiolucas38
    @sergiolucas38 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice trick, i didnt know of it :)

  • @walterwhite28
    @walterwhite28 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a question-
    In some beta or gamma integrals, after substituting some variable as sin(theta) or cos(theta) we get intehrals in terms of theta. So, in that case, integrating from 0 to 2pi, gives the integration value 0 if the answer is in terms of sine. So to get non-zero answer, we need to break integral according to symmetry as 4×integral(0 to pi/2). Why do we get 2 different answers then? Shouldn't the answers be same, if we are equating one thing to another for solving.

    • @JigsaW-goat
      @JigsaW-goat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well I guess due to discontinuity of that particular func^ at some points..so we need to split them...one example - integral (dx/(2+sin2x) limits 0->2π..

  • @stvayush
    @stvayush 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, where is the url of video that you mentioned in the current one. I couldn't find it in description. Please help, i wanna learn

    • @stvayush
      @stvayush 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DrTrefor Thanks Prof! 🙂

  • @kebman
    @kebman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So what's your _least_ favourite integral then?

  • @atulkumars2095
    @atulkumars2095 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can use gamma function
    x²=t
    2xdx=dt
    And then the integral convert in
    Gamma(1/2)
    Which is √π
    QED
    Respect from india❤

  • @adelyoutube7530
    @adelyoutube7530 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why the (r)dr was not transferred to udu ? As the extra r is there once you change to polar
    ??!!

  • @ycombinator765
    @ycombinator765 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Respect from Pakistan!
    Just pure respect!!!

    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you!!

  • @iaaan1245
    @iaaan1245 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome!

  • @yogitakukreja2296
    @yogitakukreja2296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks man!

    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No problem!

  • @dqrksun
    @dqrksun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My method of solving it is. convert it to the multivariable version. Then imagine it as infinitely many cylinder. then add up those cylinders. the radius of the cylinder is sqrt(-ln x) (the inverse of e^-x^2). Adding up them is just pi*r^2. where r is the function. So its just intergrating pi (sqrt(-lnx))^2. then You'll get -pi*-1=pi. Then take the sqrt of it

  • @slendrmusic
    @slendrmusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome

  • @joaomattos9271
    @joaomattos9271 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great!!!!!

  • @physicslover1950
    @physicslover1950 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your way of presenting the content in a vsual ways witg animations is great 💚💚💚💚. You make hard things easy. Can you please make a video series on complex analysis?

    • @physicslover1950
      @physicslover1950 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DrTrefor Ha ha Ha but thanks You again Sir !

  • @tintinfan007
    @tintinfan007 ปีที่แล้ว

    now what happens if we differentiate the root of pi

  • @samuelfoin5531
    @samuelfoin5531 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is there a way to compute the gaussian integrale without going in the polar coodinate ?

    • @carultch
      @carultch ปีที่แล้ว

      Infinite series.

  • @monzirabdalrahman4573
    @monzirabdalrahman4573 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're the best

  • @lebdesmath2510
    @lebdesmath2510 ปีที่แล้ว

    no music, perfect

  • @johnnisshansen
    @johnnisshansen ปีที่แล้ว

    squareroot of pi is also the sidelength of a square with the same area as a unitcircle.

  • @FiboYT
    @FiboYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still wonder,why you allowed to merge the squared integral

  • @visualgebra
    @visualgebra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What technique you use for this kind of animation

    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I make everything in MATLAB

  • @adw1z
    @adw1z ปีที่แล้ว

    I came across a really abstract way to solve this integral, to obtain an ODE from two different integrals of multi valued function and using Fenyman’s Integration Technique of differentiating under the integral sign to obtain a differential relation

    • @k_wl
      @k_wl ปีที่แล้ว

      or you could do the way laplace did it

  • @terasathi8699
    @terasathi8699 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sir love from the ❤️ 💙 💜 💖

  • @212ntruesdale
    @212ntruesdale ปีที่แล้ว

    There’s another video claiming that Laplace solved the Gaussian integral without needing to switch coordinate systems. However, the nuts and bolts all look the same. The claim is that a parameter, t, avoids it. However, r is also just a parameter, not a function of theta, when it comes to converting dxdy to the tiniest area in the polar coordinate system. Start with S=rtheta. Differentiate with respect to theta, treating r as a parameter now. dS=rdtheta. Now multiple both sides by dr. You get dA = rdrdtheta = dydx. Took me a while to work it out starting with length of a sector of a circle, which is where my intuition starts.

  • @kebman
    @kebman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think those who have worked with 3D modelling and rendering have a more intuitive grasp on these things. Especially if they used something like POV-Ray, which is a fully scripted and Turing complete modelling language.

  • @l.h.308
    @l.h.308 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if the interval were from a to b, would it be feasible?

    • @carultch
      @carultch ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately no. Otherwise we could find the cumulative distribution function in elementary functions, and not need to define the erf(x) function, or use infinite series to evaluate it.

  • @JP-re3bc
    @JP-re3bc ปีที่แล้ว

    If I did that mighty hand waving in a test I guess my grade would be bad indeed.

  • @SHAHHUSSAIN
    @SHAHHUSSAIN 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ♥️♥️SUPERB💝💝♥️

  • @sr.tarsaimsingh9294
    @sr.tarsaimsingh9294 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks a lot lot Sir,
    Watching this Video ; I instantly becomes yours subscriber. I had seen multiple videos, but I didn't get it whole.
    I am student of +2 class from India, Use of polar coordinates is not there in our curriculum;
    But help me to provide yours video regarding polar coordinates in description;
    Thus to enjoy this fun. 🙏🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @mohamedirshaathm32123
    @mohamedirshaathm32123 ปีที่แล้ว

    SIR I am still confused why the LIMIT OF THETA is 0 to 2pi and why not 0 to pi /2

  • @mustafaakyol7440
    @mustafaakyol7440 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't understand how you can split double integral by multiplying two integral and vice verse.Iwill be glad ifyou can write an explanation abot this step. Thanks. MUSTAFA AKYOL

    • @carultch
      @carultch ปีที่แล้ว

      Given I = ∫ e^(-x^2) dx.
      Make a copy of I, and change the variable to y:
      I = ∫ e^(-y^2) dy
      Multiply it with itself squared:
      I^2 = ∫e^(-x^2) dx * ∫e^(-y^2) dy
      The same way that we can pull constants out of an integral, we can add constants back in to the integral. Thus:
      I^2 = ∫(∫e^(-y^2) dy)*e^(-x^2) dx
      Since the differential terms are really just implicitly multiplied by the integrand, we can relocate dy to the end, and collect the integral signs at the beginning:
      I^2 = ∫∫ e^(-y^2) *e^(-x^2) dx dy
      Consolidate the exponents:
      I^2 = ∫∫ e^(-x^2 - y^2) dx dy
      Then transform to polar coordinates to carry it out.

  • @continnum_radhe-radhe
    @continnum_radhe-radhe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🙏🙏🙏

  • @ogunsadebenjaminadeiyin2729
    @ogunsadebenjaminadeiyin2729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Super super

  • @johncrwarner
    @johncrwarner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this how Gauss solved it originally?

  • @youssefdirani
    @youssefdirani 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super

  • @amaljeevk3950
    @amaljeevk3950 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

  • @habacuuq
    @habacuuq 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is used as the main way of proof that the pdf of the gaussian distribution integrates to 1

  • @atriagotler
    @atriagotler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow this was 3b1b kind of beautiful

  • @user-pb4jg2dh4w
    @user-pb4jg2dh4w 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wwwwwoooooowwww thank youuu

  • @githika5935
    @githika5935 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    king

  • @ozgurhamsici9293
    @ozgurhamsici9293 ปีที่แล้ว

    brain storming but how dx and dy and x and y are matching and making a polar couple. with what major sense. out of scope of my head

  • @jrfutube2013
    @jrfutube2013 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When is The Gaussian Integral used in real world applications? 🌎

  • @user-mg1hz2qm8k
    @user-mg1hz2qm8k ปีที่แล้ว

    HALLELUJA 💖💖💖

  • @DerejeNegash-bu4vo
    @DerejeNegash-bu4vo ปีที่แล้ว

    it is best if your vedio suported by animation

  • @RF-fi2pt
    @RF-fi2pt ปีที่แล้ว

    The bell shape created by e^(-x^2) is so beautiful as that created by other base constants instead of 'e'.
    At excel drawing ,eg, 12^(-x^2), gives that shape, with less variance, centered at 0 and same maximum value 1.
    Sure integrating this with the same tricks showed by Dr. Bazett, will obtain other finite razonable constant .
    So is very interesting explain why Gauss uses base 'e' instead of any other number (except the obvious not useful like base 1 or 1/2 or other between 1 and 0). Tradition ?
    Because 'e' is the "natural" base although irrational? Advantages of this? ...

    • @carultch
      @carultch ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The calculus is more elegant when you use base e. Using another base ultimately is the same thing as having a constant grouped with -x^2 in the exponent, because B^x in general is the same thing as e^x. Thus, B^(-x^2) is the same thing as e^(-ln(B)*x^2).
      Let L=ln(b). When you integrate ∫∫B^(-x^2) * r dr dθ, your inner integral will become:
      ∫B^(-r^2) * r dr =
      ∫e^(-L*r^2) * r dr =
      -1/(2*L) * ∫e^(-L*r^2) * (-2*L*r) dr =
      -1/(2*L) * ∫e^(u) * du =
      -1/(2*L) * e^u + C=
      -1/(2*L) * e^(-L*r^2) + C
      Apply r=0 to infinity, recall L:
      1/(2*ln(b))
      Then evaluating the outer integral from 0 to 2*pi, we get:
      pi/ln(b)
      If you use base e, then all of those L's and ln(b) terms will equal 1, which greatly simplifies this.
      The actual Gaussian distribution contains constants all over the place, to adjust it for mean, standard deviation, and to force it to have an area of 1. Knowing to put sqrt(pi) in the leading constant, to normalize its total area, is an application of this knowledge.

  • @barrytaylor2265
    @barrytaylor2265 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are many of us who could not solve this equation, but have enough background to enjoy watching the solving. To ignore us is to leave a large fraction of potential subscribers on the sideline. You may think that the content of a prior video is all you need to refer to. That is not true. When I watch a video, I want you to take me from start to finish. Don’t shorten your video simply because you made a video about the process previously.

    • @samhobbeheydar5969
      @samhobbeheydar5969 ปีที่แล้ว

      Check his channel. This video is part of a full course on multi variable calculus. Expecting him to cover all the fundamental ideas again in this video is like showing up to a class for the first time on the 15th day and being mad you don’t know what’s going on

  • @prashanthkumar0
    @prashanthkumar0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    pi shows up all unexpected places..hehe

    • @prashanthkumar0
      @prashanthkumar0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DrTrefor
      yes...
      math is always cool...and amazing 😁...

    • @prashanthkumar0
      @prashanthkumar0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DrTrefor
      do you know about manim lib?? its amazing for making animation for math ...its made by 3blue1brown...
      github.com/3b1b/manim/tree/master/
      its in python btw .....

    • @prashanthkumar0
      @prashanthkumar0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DrTrefor
      you have done really great job sir...
      the green screen and the editing 👏👏👏👏👏...
      really amazing channel...it deserves more IMO...

  • @edanarator7716
    @edanarator7716 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Three analysis classes and I still can't solve it, worst integral

  • @geektoys370
    @geektoys370 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    im sorry you cant change the variable and still say " this is squared"

  • @lambda653
    @lambda653 ปีที่แล้ว

    "goewsian" 🙃🙃

  • @aashsyed1277
    @aashsyed1277 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gaussian not gausssssian

  • @NyisomeEveline-gn5sq
    @NyisomeEveline-gn5sq ปีที่แล้ว

    Ain't understanding really

  • @matsjohansson3645
    @matsjohansson3645 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gauss was one of the best matematicans, but worst social persons.

  • @borryspeya1053
    @borryspeya1053 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Too talkative!!!