Will Dragonfly Visit Titan's Lakes? - Largest Moon Of Saturn
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.พ. 2025
- In this video I go over a few reasons with regards to why NASA decided to not send Dragonfly to land directly at the poles of Titan where there are lakes, then after discussing those reasons I go over why despite the fact that Titan will be far away from the lakes at the equator there is still a chance that it might reach them eventually.
Intro, outro and many other clips in this video were made with Space Engine.
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1. Huma-Huma - Eureka
2. Kevin MacLeod - Crypto
3. DL-Sounds - Mercury
4. Huma-Huma - Nevada City
5. Kevin MacLeod - Floating Cities
6. Kevin MacLeod - Spacial Winds
dreksler, i watched you for like 6 or 7 years at this point. You were the one who started my fascination with space and it’s because of you that I started astrophotography. Thank you bro.
Same here!
These videos are a breath of fresh air
This one is a breath of icy cold nitrogen!
Nasa chose the equator due to it containing an impact crater that contained liquid water for a few centuries. The conditions there would have been extremely similar to the primordial soup on earth, making it extremely lucrative for astrobiology research.
I hope I live long enough to see those methane lakes.
10 to 20 years from now probably. You will see them at some point don't worry 🟠
Something very interesting about the craft is that its propellers will not have to be as fast as helicopter blades on earth, as titan’s atmosphere is actually thicker than earth’s.
It also has lower gravity!
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At least dragonfly will be much easier to fly on Titan than ingenuity on Mars
Less gravity than luna and a thicker atmosphere than earth… I’d say it’s easier to fly a drone on titan than a rover.
Well, it is much colder, and we know less about titan than mars. I’d say it’s higher risk.
there's no rain on Mars. it might get tough when it comes to longevity
@@titan9259 Dragonfly's equipment, computer hardware and parts might crack because of the extremely cold temperature
@@YeenMage Wrap them up tight
This is amazing.if they even find life...I'd be amazed.
This is going to be epic, and if Dragonfly lasts as long as the rovers on Mars there should be plenty of time to explore lots of places. Thanks Drex!👍👍
Does it use solar power to propel? How efficient that would be?
@@Ram-yn3b Nuclear/RTG
Titan is a lot more volatile so I'm not sure it'll last as long, but probably still a long time
Thanks for continuing to make these videos! They are fascanating!
Incredible content, keep it up
You’re awesome I love your videos
In other words, we're probably 10 years away from getting drone footage of Titan's lakes.
cant wait for the Dragonfly mission
Love these titans videos man thanks for the requests!
It needs to do a lake fly by drop a fishing line of sorts & not just sniff rocks
Titan Mare Explorer (TIME) was a good concept, but Dragonfly is just better overall
I'll be 60 in 2034. Hurry up nasa!
I'll be 35
@@BRAHHHHHH Really? why 52 is quite young. People live to be over 80 all the time
I will be 28
ill be 27
Exploring Titan with a drone would be so cool!
I wonder what it'll find in Titan's lakes... to me, Titan has a lot of potental.
Can you imagine having a 7 year dark winter, followed by 7 years of summer no night weather? 😮
I feel dragon fly would definitely visit titans lakes.
You know NASA has to be eager to explore the lakes. While it might not be the mission trajectory on paper, there is probably a lot of winking and head nods behind the scenes that the lakes are the ultimate prize. It makes a lot of sense to start slow and safe since there is so much time and money invested. As the mission runs successfully for a long time, they will almost certainly start making riskier maneuvers (such as traveling to, and exploring the lakes). We've seen this same risk management strategy with the Cassini mission, Juno, and other flagship missions.
Yes. I'm just saying I feel like they have too
@@wyattm6782 I agree, the lakes are the prize.
It's not though
What inflates pontoon skids that can't burst, repair rotors with chunks or whole blades missing and also happens to make the inflatable self-rescue aircraft a completely safe perfectly viable product without increasing the cost enough to notice?
High density expanding foam two part mix injection at the above mentioned points of use. The Dragonfly and the more Earthly inflatable rescue aircraft will likely find the the same Kevlar fabric solutions, the self repairing blades must be skinned with similar armoured fabric that's also chemically stable enough to infect a dissolving agent first to remove any broken blade segments then a regular foam mix injection will reform a new blade as easy as that.
Personally, I would save a lot of that cash for more instruments that a ground effect craft can lift over any surface and build a hovercraft with a skirt, and wheels, and recharging gas thrusters with 180° ball nozzles and a 180° housing flip up function to allow for self-righting if the AI pilot fails a landing so bad it's inverted when settled. Could also put the drone inside a foam filling inflatable ball cage with the drone attached via a single central axle or more likely twin wishbone gas suspension struts to really optimise for safe landing anywhere at any velocity.
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Where can I get the music that was used at the 6:00 mark? I LOVE IT!
Look in the description.
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Not visiting the lakes would be such a missed opportunity
Huge. Stupid politics as always got in the way. Read in detail about why all those proposals were nixed
@@624radicalhamwhere can i read about it?
Its scary that they put all hopes in just one drone, why not sending a main one and smaller one, ingenuity class. Play safe and send the main one to Shangri-La and send the smaller one to Ontario, we just need a simple drone with a camera to actually see the lakes on a non earth object, that would be beyond incredible. Isnt that what they did with Spirit, Opportunity and Viking1and2? they sent them on a different parts of Mars, can they pull this off with Titan too? And it seems that Titan has some bad weather, they say rain, its a thicker atmosphere so that means more wind, what about storms? it would be a miracle if Dragonfly reaches the poles. I cant wait for this mission. It would be definitely be a step up from anything we’ve seen on Mars missions
What about sending some baloons floating around Titan. With such dense atmosphere it should be easy to craft baloon which will fly around Titan with the wind :) Gas doesn;t weight a lot so several baloons with one rocket could be sent.
I think we'll definitely see more swarm drone deployment missions in the future. There are NASA grants funding research into swarm technology already. It is definitely the way to cover much more ground, take more risk, and not jeopardize the mission with the health of one big device.
@@austinsapp5867 Yes but swarm drones will not work on most planets. To fly you need an atmosphere. The thicker the better. So Venus/Titan are perfect, maybe gas giants somehow. Surprisingly little drone also flies on Mars as we know with density 1% of Earth's atmosphere. It is possible thanks to low gravity and low weight of drone. Basically it has only camera and no scientific payload. We will see, I think Titan is perfect for all kind of flying machines, it is protected by Saturns magnetic field, it has very dense atmosphere and low gravity. Sounds superb :) The main minus it is so far away.
@@Alexriga I never imagined us exploring the atmospheres of the gas giants, but it's certainly possible! I think there is discussion of swarms on Mars to explore some of the steeper terrain that we can't explore with traditional rovers - especially after the success of ingenuity. They'll need to be intelligent, self-driven, and able to communicate/make decisions as a swarm; which is what they're working on (like a neural network). You can't manually pilot a swarm with the communication lags we experience with Mars, let alone Titan. You make an interesting point about single camera vs. more scientific instruments. Maybe we'll have specialized units that get called over to do more research once something interesting is discovered? I'm just speculating on that point, but I think there's promise in the potential to cover much more terrain this way (like sending scouts). Either way, I know we'll all be eagerly waiting for Dragonfly's arrival to Titan! Seems like a dream come true to fly around the surface of such a fascinating moon :)
I'd like to see a floating probe dropped directly into one of the lakes
Perhaps a nuclear-powered submersible with sonar to navigate through methane
@@WebOSDevelops Not in this lifetime lol
Nothing against the video or it's creator, but I really dislike how the presence of a hydrologic cycle on Titan gets used as a supposed hint that there might be life there. The hydrologic cycle is important on Earth because it weathers the nutrient bearing rock into small pieces that can be more easily attacked by chemicals. The rock on Titan is water-ice, which is probably going to be very nutrient poor.
That’s true, but it’s still better than most places in the solar system
This video didn't hint at the existence of life on Titan, I did have one video in the past that did do that though and I changed my opinion. However I do agree with the overall point you are trying to make, the next video should be about whether or not there is life on Titan, and it doesn't seem very promising, at least life on the surface of Titan.
@@oberonpanopticon I would say it's in the top 5 places by a hair, depending on how old the current Venusian environment is. If it's only a billion years old I'd say there's a higher chance of finding microbes in Venus's atmosphere than surface life on Titan. Before both of those is Mars subterranean, Enceladus, Europa, Mars surface. I split Mars in two just because one is a lot more likely than the other.
@@DrekslerAstral Ya I only commented this because I did see a few people get their hopes up that life has a chance on Titan. Instead of replying to them individually I just did this. Love your content though, honored to get a reply.
am i the only one who can see a massive lake in the tropics just under and to the right of "Xanadu" Hummocky area on the map at 0:48
You’re right, I wonder how different equatorial methane is compared to the methane on the north pole
Love this channel!
Be amazing to find fruit bearing trees at the lake and maybe a paradise there with human like aliens who can live forever and do not grow old enjoying life peacefully there for many thouands of years where death does not exist and sea creatures in the oceans causing no harm to anyone. x
Yeah that sounds pretty plausible
@@oberonpanopticon Not saying I believe it, but it would be one of the biggest discoveries in many years.
@@Greenpoloboy3Let me tell you what would be an even bigger discovery: God swimming in the lakes of titan.😅😅
@@atulvaibhav5376 Well he is invisible so you wont see that
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Thank you for such a fascinating video🪐. I dream of the day the Dragonfly 🚁 arrives on Titan. And start traveling the satellite. With so much violence today in our world. I hope 🙏🏼we human beings can live in peace 🕊️and get there in 2034. It will be an unforgettable mission!🛰️
I hope dragonfly reaches Huygens landing probe to see how it looks
Titan orbits Saturn one time in close to 16 days. Also Titan is tidally locked to Saturn.
Which means that half the time the Sun makes "the day" and the other half the reflection of the Suns light on Saturn makes "the day".
On ecvator that is.
Yea, a visit to the poles at the "wrong time" would be much of a very long night.
This was very insightful and interesting,
thank you so much for this video👍👍👍👍✨✨✨
Why does Titan only have lakes at its poles?
It’s colder there
Good question. It probably has to do with the temperature. At the equator it might be warm enough where liquid methane can't exist and so it just evaporates when it rains there, so no bodies of liquid can form. But on the north pole and south pole it is cold enough for the methane to stay liquid. This is just a hypothesis. The answer most likely is already answered if you look for it online.
Dreksley has been making lots of long videos recently. I love it.
I hope this thing launches, and lands, of course.
11:17 Will Dragonfly go look at the other lander and see how Titan has weathered it? Probably a lot to be learned there.
Titan had to be actually a planet that got captured by the gravity force of Saturn. It's too much planet- like to be a moon
it's orbital inclination is the same as the other saturnian moons and it's made of the same material
What If a Sub-Earth like Mars replaced Venus and a Super-Earth type of planet replaced Mars
NASA should have prioritized the flagship probe mission to Enceladus and Uranus (per he Decadal survey). We don't even have a highly detailed map of Titan's surface, so what happens if Dragonfly lands on rough terrain? Also, it takes very long to reach Uranus so it should be prioritized
I don't think it'll particularly matter if the immediate landing location is rough. It can fly to a flatter location.
@@12pentaborane I'm not confident with that. Too many things could go wrong at this point
Drop more frequently bro!!
No matter how far the odject we are going to leave some trash on it. Their aint nuuuuuttttthhhhiiinng out there.
What a fascinating place where it snows and rains just like here on earth with mountains and rivers of methane, I cant wait to see the video in 10 years
Im angry with nasa
Water inside mars? Im confused and its going viral right now
Can you make a video on this new topic? Im confused
They should include a tiny submersible attached to explore the lakes. you have the opportunity to go somewhere you dont know and has long years, why don't you go and get all the information you can ever get?
If it trips into a pond or lake, is that game over for the rover ?
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hi, long time no see
they already got funding for a submarine mission to titan's lakes
6:35 Damn, for some reason I always thought Dragonfly was the size of a shoebox
well if they're gonna have a roto craft on Titan what they need is a small reconnaissance orbiter around Titan and not just around Saturday but around Titan they can relay information as needed back to Earth but the rover can transmit information to the to the orbiter and the orbiter can say no or no go go or no go on important decisions through is the second brain in the orbit that says no this is too risky we don't want to do that or yeah this is cool let's go ahead and land there's no water here there's no puddles let's land here because I would rather have something outside of the system in case something goes wrong on planet we know what happened whether it was the last communication from the orbiter to the the Rover on the ground or in the air and recreate what we wanted what it was trying to do and wanted to do before something drives took happens and that way if you we've got a record on the ground in the air and at the site of what was going to be going on in case something goes wrong. sadly we can't have triple redundancy not let's want to put a three different computers up on the rover or on the orbiter or F3D for the orbiters in orbit want to run tighten one around Saturn and maybe one around and sell it is it's not like it's going to be solar powered anyway So no reason to worry about the sunlight other than for visual inspection And with the abilities we have to detect thermal images and night images with ultraviolet we don't nearly need visible light to see stuff anymore I'm sure there's plenty of light reflected from Saturn itself to light up the the Titan atmosphere and ground surfaces.
That’s a lot of words and a single punctuation mark for all of them
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you don't know what it's like on Titan during the summertime you have a snapshot of like a couple of days worth of time on Titan during the summer time in 2005 that would be like spending a few hours in Wyoming during the height of the summer during the Badlands and it's like 102 degrees up that's a snapshot that's not an understanding of what's going on big's Wyoming in the summertime you can have snow you can have rain you have thunderstorms you have earthquakes You know landslides you're gonna floods in any one of those scenarios are not a snapshot of what you expect or what you saw in the past doesn't make any sense to go based on that 0 we had something like this last year so it's gonna be exactly the same on the same time in the same day at the same year or the next year climate doesn't work that way climate doesn't keep exactly the same conditions year after year after year after year after year for the same time. as previous years Just doesn't work that way we know that on Earth one winter you get up with all the vortex the other one you can have a heat wave in middle of January ever heard of the January thaw I have. talk about being stupid and thing 0 it's going to be just like it was last year I have yet to see here that's exactly the same as the previous year for the same day for the same time. and the same in the next year Does not work that way folks the answer should know with no better than that But crying out loud don't make assumptions based on one data point
First comment!
It is. But tbh its not a great one.
Love all this stuff that NASA is doing/has done, but I do wish they would do it a bit faster and without spending the GDP of a small nation.
JWST took way too much time and cost way too much money. People ignore that because the launch succeeded and the telescope is working beautifully. But if it had failed in any way, we would be forced to have these conversations.
This is why I find it tough to get really excited by NASA's plans. I honestly don't expect to see this Titan mission launch until the mid-2030s at least. And I'm sure the cost will be obscene.
NASA really needs to be run with a more private industry, SpaceX style of doing things. If it were up to NASA, we would still be waiting into the late 2020s, or even the 2030s, for rocket boosters that land themselves propulsively.
I really don't want to wait until I'm in my mid-to-late 30s before we get HD video from Titan. I want to see those hydrocarbon lakes up close!!!
why don’t they send this drone along with multiple smaller drones similar to ingenuity equipped with sonar to detect any liquid beneath the surface
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Amazing content keep us updated for more titan missions but I got 1 question will humans will be able to visit or Conquer titan?
Hanh tinh so 10-/_
Is titan nuclear powered?
NASA PLEASE SEND THAT SHIT NOW PLS, WE CANT WAIT
I would suggest sending 2 probes, one in 2034 and the other in 2040.
Titanus ad Saturnum tidaliter cincinnatus est.
If Titan is tidally locked and orbits Saturn in 16 days all sides should get well lit.
probably, hard not too, especially while your in the neighborhood
DragonFly should land a boat on one of Titan's Lakes - South Pole.
We should send people to space already
voyager 1 voyager 2 pioneer 11 and 10 all are and I think New Horizons are all RTG powered radio thermal generators and voyagers coming up on 50 years soon it's like 4547 years now In three years will be 50 years for the voyager probes to have been sent out and they're still working right now so definitely he did the same size as the ones in Voyagers they'd be working 50 years assuming that they still have the general power requirements to run the ship I think it's going to take more energy to flood the thing around than it's going to take to just sit in space and try and orientate your antenna to aim towards back towards Earth I mean that takes computational power but flying around on a planet's going to take computation flower as well as physical oath power to fly it around if they're smart they double up the RTGS on the spacecraft 12 power the systems that want to power the flight that way if anything happens to one of the power sources they get a backup ready to go it'll slow things down and use it to power a little more quickly but at least they get a backup Remember they need to heat the craft to heat the electronic components working so they don't freeze and die because they have the same problem on Mars and Titan is a lot like holder than Mars the love of that heat energy is going to be going to keeping the craft warm and functional that's why I'd be very even to have three RTGS on each craft going to keep it warm one to power it and one to keep the logistics going And now you can get two backups in case something have bad happens to one of the systems.
Fresh refreshing methane
The future iof astronautics are AI combined with robots.
The Solar system is pretty fascinating, probably one of the most interesting systems in the Milky Way.
there could be others even more interesting
North pole it's were Titans frozen Santa Claus lives.
Where is the real Shangri-La 😂. Why have they given earthly names for many landmarks in space, i think it's not progressive into inclusive space Linguistics to get regional language and language on existence researchers nothing to dream of may be NASA can help with this field researchers and speakers. Isn't liquid methane flammable i hope they got peeps on corrosion and short circuit from cracking of wires after wear and tear from hours of sun damage and radioactive heat dispersion over time with more atm pressure and dusty looking land as we see road trucks doing sparks i guess that doesn't occur with nasa rovers but mars is different than titan. I hope there are no under ground channels of methane lakes because it can trigger cascading effect if helicopter or rover topples and crashes by mistake into liquid lakes of methane.
Jesus Christ dude, your obsession with Dragonfly going to the poles was ridiculous. It also felt like you were being really repetitive to pad the run time of the video.
Read the title. Dragonfly going to the poles is what the whole video is about.
so cool